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>> mr. president, what is your message to moderates who your frustrated with delay in the vote? >> everybody is frustrated, that's part of being in government. >> president biden this morning on his way to wilmington, addressing the tension between moderates and progressive, inside his own party all over trillions in new spending. welcome to fox news, i'm ali is
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a akuhn. griff: i'm griff jenkins. they're hoping to keep legislation that would transform government as we know it. let's go to mark meredith at the white house. >> griff, as you mentioned, it's it's been a whoo wild few days on capitol hill yet, the president is sure his agenda is going to get through congress. at issue, one the bipartisan infrastructure agreement that republicans for the most part are going to support and a much larger social safety net bill with moderate democrats saying they do not want to spend the massive amount that progressives want to spend and what they'll be willing to spend to get the goals achieved and we asked what comes next. he said this is messy and it's part of the way that washington works. >> i'm a realist. i think that, i was in the
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senate a long timement i know how legislation gets done. there is no reason why both these bills couldn't pass independently, except that, they're not supposed to do it that way. >> got to have the votes. and nancy pelosi put out a letter, out of our respect for our colleagues and need for votes, i would not bring the infrastructure bill to the floor to fail. we must pass both bills soon, we have that responsibility. >> some moderates are warning that the longer this drags on, this could cause problems headed into the next year's election. and looking at how they make their way out of congress. >> i believe i can get this done. when the american people are aware this could be done. >> do you think by thanksgiving, sir, it could be
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done. >> i think by 2:27 a.m. on -- come on, i think it will get done. plenty of time for it to be part of changing the tax bill for people next year and giving people the breaks they need. >> you certainly have to consider the calendar, now that we're in october, the holidays before you know it and always likely something else could pop up that could distract washington's attention. as for this weekend, the president is in delaware until tomorrow night, he will be working the phones, reaching ut members of congress and griff, he's going to be hitting the road to stump for these proposals. griff: ma mark, that's an outstanding question you asked him and politicians hate it put a date on it. let me ask you, as all of this back and forth had any impact on the president's poll numbers that we've been watching? it's interesting, we've seen the poll numbers go down, not only with the americans overall, but we've seen even
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with some progressive-- sorry, some democrats as well as independence have showed slipping support for the president. republicans have been standing firm against his agenda, but what we're seeing now is the president dealing with a few different issues, one the afghanistan fallout as well as what's going on with covid, the pandemic lingering on. so we've seen the president's poll numbers slip in recent weeks and i would imagine if they were able to get the two proposals out of here, that would be a big win for the president and who knows between now and the end of the year. >> i have a quick question. president biden spent 36 years on capitol hill. he's a man of the senate, but no longer the senate that he left so many years ago. it's a little harder these dies in terms of negotiating? >> you're right because of the numbers here as chad would say, it comes down to the math. he's got a 50-50 senate here, next to impossible to get pretty much anything out and
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that's why the infrastructure deal was important, there was a bipartisan agreement here and they felt they could move forward quickly and popular with the majority of americans. the president says he believes what's in this proposal is not that controversial. you're hearing from republicans when they lead these bills, what it means for the irs and the government's role into our everyday lives. they believe this can help them in november. griff: thank you very much. alicia, such a good question, it's such a different environment with the 50-50 senate and only three vote majority in the house, clearly with those progressives, feeling their oats, the chairwoman of the progressive caucus feeling that she's got quite a hold on this and that raises the larger question that critics are starting to point out, is the president's
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domestic agenda at threat right now? >> exactly. and he really needs some sort of win, right? in terms of his domestic policy in general. he needs something to happen for him on capitol hill he hasn't had a legislative win he could point to, especially when you think about how rough the past month and a half, two months have been for this administration, defending things left and right and the american people showing in the polls, they're not too pleased with this administration and all the promises that they heard about are on the campaign trail. it will be interesting to watch this next week as the president hits the road and tries to sell all of this to the american people. griff: yeah, we're going to talk to members of congress on both sides of the aisle, to talk just about what you were talking about, alicia, much more to come on that. meanwhile, law enforcement is worried -- as the search for
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brian laundrie drags on and evidence of his whereabouts might become harder to find. our charles watson is in north port, with the boyfriend of gabby petito. >> we're getting the protests in front of the laundrie home in north port as authorities are continue the weeks' long search for brian laundrie, now missing over two weeks as we learn that brian's sister saw him september 6th days after she said she had not seen him since september 1st. when he returned without gabby petito. here is what she said last month. >> i haven't been able to talk to him. i wish i could talk to him. >> now, laundrie family attorney bertlino says law
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enforcement are well aware of dates, but cassie does not reflect these, and a very misinterpreted or poorly posed by the questioner. and with the camping trip that the family took to the desoto campground in florida. that they checked in on september 6th and left on september 8th. meantime, newly released body cam footage by moab police department shows an emotional petito speaking with police during a suspected domestic incident. despite multiple report of a violent dispute between gabby ap brian, they decided not to apply the domestic abuse law because they didn't believe it applied to the case.
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>> in no way, shape or form could i perceive, a little slap fight between fiancees who love each other and want to be with each other. that he could be a battered man. but again, i don't have a-- . and the moab police department tells that they are conducting a thorough investigation to go over how those officers handled that situation, griff. griff: charles watt zoran in north port, florida amid the protesters, thank you. coming up, what's fact and fiction in the gabby petito case when we talk to a profiler. alicia. alicia: hundreds of afghan detainees are leaving before the resettlement. many at the bases are not required to stay.
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lucas tomlinson is in washington with the latest. >> there are now over 53,000 afghan refugees over eight military bases in the united states. as you mentioned 700 decided to leave on their own, they're not breaking any laws, and they did not deny that story, they choose to leave the bases and responsible for the medical requirements on their own, and forfeit benefits, and according to top generals in north america, we're prepared to be here as long as we need to. support through the winter months and into the spring. there are still 14,000 afghan refugees at bases overseas, including at ramstein in germany, waiting to come to the u.s. on flights that have been suspended for weeks because of a measles outbreak. now the general says that all
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afghans having been vaccinated for measles, and 84% received covid vaccines, and i asked them why they were 100% for the measles, but not the covid. something i want to remind, lucas, the covid positivity rate is less than 1%, so, we haven't had significant challenges. i will tell you that the task forces concern is primarily flu outbreak at this point and we're working hard to get the flu vaccine as well across all of the afghans. >> last week a female u.s. army soldier at fort bliss in texas says she was assaulted by a group of male afghan rest refugees, and someone in wisconsin for assaulting his wife and an act on a child.
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griff: you're looking now at live images in washington where the annual women's march was taking place, speakers are expected to address women's rights, and the movement hasn't attracted as much attention as recent years, but 2017 for the first women's march, more than one million showed up in washington wearing those memorable pink knit hats. we'll continue to monitor this and keep you posted. alicia. alicia: another story we continue to cover, thousands of migrants still on the move and headed for our certain border. we're live in del rio, texas next. only pay for what you need! with customized car insurance from liberty mutual! nothing rhymes with liberty mutual. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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status of the spending negotiations and congressman, we're having some technical difficulties, but you did make an analogy to stacking trillions of dollars on top of each other. can you explain where you see things? because when i saw what you said, it really helps give you a visual. >> well, when you look at a total with this reconciliation, 3.5 and 1.2 trillion, 4.7 trillion dollars, if the american people understand, if you took a dollar bill and started stacking them on top of each other, we would have enough money there, tall enough to reach to the moon and a third of the way back. it's 300, over 300,000 miles of dollar bills stacked on top of each other, it's an enormous amount of money and the american people need to realize we can't afford this spending anymore. alicia: earlier, senator bill
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cassidy was on neil cavuto and neil asked him, is this bernie sanders' world and we're living in it? and the senator said no, because bills have not passed yet. but did he add this, take a listen. >> if you mean that people are willing to hold hostage a piece of legislation that would make the american, the life of the average american much better with better jobs, and they hold it hostage, either because they want to oppose it because one side puts it up and they don't or they want to hold it hostage to get another agenda forward, i'm not sure that's just bernie, that seems to be a lot of people. alicia: congressman, do you believe the american people and their needs are being held hostage right now? >> this is what i do know with the democrats, this dissension within the ranks and whether it's 1.2 trillion infrastructure package, when you look at it. i was driving over here just a few minutes ago and we're experiencing an enormous amount
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of rain in houston, it took me an enormous amount of time to get over here, i was driving my car through a foot of water and there were many cars on the side of the road. if this is about infrastructure and roads and bridge, i would support that and the i think the american people would. but the idea that we're getting a billion dollar a year for the next five years to place charging stations across the country, we shouldn't be using taxpayer dollars. >> when has the federal government built a gas station? why are we spending billions in putting in electrical vehicle stations around the country when only 2% of vehicles today are electric. alicia: and two dozen republicans, two dozen of your colleagues who do support the bipartisan infrastructure bill that we just can't seem to get to at this point, but you're not one of them. what would bring you around?
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well, number one, meaningful infrastructure and you're right. i will be a no in its current form and i've made that very clear. the idea that we're going to use your tax dollars, this green new deal is being jammed down our throats, the throats of the american people and we are spending billions and billions of dollars. i'm about the oil and gas industry, but there's got to be a compromise. the idea that the taxpayer is going to be building and paying for these electric charging stations around the country, when only 2% of the vehicles on the road today are electric. maybe, you know, government motors -- general motors and tesla should be paying for these. why is the american people? and i just can't support that in and of itself. that's just one of the irresponsible price tags in this bill, this $1.2 trillion and i can't support it. alicia: okay. in terms of like the midterms
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that are coming up, 2024, is this just a moment for republicans to kind of sit back and let democrats just fight amongst themselves? because that seems to be what's happening right now. is this a benefit for republicans right now and does that matter to you right now? >> oh, it does and i think it's a benefit. listen, the president to travel to the capitol yesterday, he needs to sell this. when you look at the democrats over the last, what, nine months now, and look at their domestic policy, what do we have? we saw $6 trillion go into the covid response and where do we see covid today? we have the american people pitted against each other, we have a president who wants to do mandatory vaccines on every american and he's pitted the american people up against each other, businesses with over 100 employees, we're going to have osha come and fine you thousands of dollars, the administration realizes they've
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done a poor job at the southern border, you've got afghanistan. they need a win so desperately they need to pass this legislation or have a difficult time in 2022. alicia: congressman, you talk about spending and we're looking at the debt ceiling, mid march-- mid october, sorry, wrong month, and this is money that was spent by both, and supported by both parties over the last year. the bill's finally coming due. what do republicans need to do at this point? >> well, do what i'm doing, i have voted no, i didn't vote for the continuing resolution, that's what we do in government today. we don't take these-- a budget and go through the normal budget process, we just do continuing resolutions, cr's and that's what we did the other day, the democrats to keep the government open until december 3rd. i don't sport that idea. i like the idea of going through the normal channels, do what's right for the american
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taxpayer instead of just saddling millions, billions, trillions of dollars on the american people and it's enough money, folks, to take you straight to the moon. alicia: congressman troy nehls from texas, we thank you for joining us and making it through the awful commute, it sounds kind of dangerous, thank you for being here today. >> thank you, god bless. alicia: in the next hour we'll have congressman, a democrat from massachusetts join us and stay tuned. chris wallace will have an exclusive interview with republican senator from wyoming john barrasso and california democratic congressman and member of progressional caucus. two must-see interviews, that's
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tomorrow. griff: you are looking live at the u.s. southern border in the rio grande valley sector in texas, a massive surge of migrants not only in the u.s., but also in mexico in this area where you are looking. we just got the fiscal year 2021 final numbers, well more than half a million migrant encounters in just that sector alone, nearly a 500% increase from last fiscal year 2020. jesse paul is near del rio where migrants are continuing to cross near that bridge. >> hi, griff. when you go at any town along the border, you'll find them worried about what's going on around the corner. two weeks ago you saw what we saw, del rio, texas, thousands upon thousands of migrants
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streaming across the border and a lot said it could play out, the next couple of weeks, and across from where we're standing in del rio, texas. cuidad acuna, you have haitian nationals who are taking refuge. they've set up a shelter and they're going to make the next move. what we're hearing in some cases one of the options could be back across to the u.s. and homeland security secretary mayorkas, who crossed, 9,000 returned to mexico, but in cities like del rio, officials say that the next caravan could be bigger than beforement we have information right now that there's another 20 to 50,000 individuals in mexico right now looking for a place to cross. del rio is a success story for
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them. del rio looks like the point of entrance again. >> now, so far this week, it's been a fairly active scene here in rio. here along the rio grande. mostly groups of around five or six people at a time and many we've spoken with are from venezuela and cuba and while the judge ruled the biden can expel families under the covid rules, title 42, dhs issued a new directive, who ice agents should be targeting. during the trump administration it's anyone deemed crossing illegally and now under the biden administration, it's those who pose a threat to national security or public safety. griff: you put yourself on something significant, the fact that they will no longer enforce deportations just for being here illegally. some of my sources worry it's a pull factor there. when you talk another caravan
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of migrants coming along with softening the deportment enforcement rules, are they concerned about that? do you get a sense that they're worried that the worst may be yet to come? >> yeah, i think a lot of the agents and people who work the border are somewhat overwhelmed and they look what happened two weeks ago in del rio and you have 30,000 migrants who come across in the span of two weeks and according to alejandro mayorkas, 50,000 released into the u.s. they're trying to understand how this will play out and many are given to this and we know that the department of justice saying around 44% do not show up for the court date, jiff. griff: grief paul in del rio. thank you. in the future of the american southern border crisis may be
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by a wide open border from mex. they cross with little or no resistance. i was there following and take a look. >> every day migrants cross the border. >> well before any migrant acrosses into the u.s. they first have to step into mexico, requires little effort and only a few pesos. >> and in the international bridge, that's the legal way to cross and this is the illegal way, thousands do it every day for 30pesos or about $1.50. >> mexican officials say haitians make the cross daily and they're preparing for a bottle neck in colombia. >> we've found almost 19,000 migrants are stranded in this municipality. >> and we're learning that that 15,000 caravan in south america working through central america coming here is going to be a
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major problem that locals here in mexico say will collapse the city entirely, but the journey is not easy and those who have made it says it's often deadly. >> panama is the most difficult to are everybody, a lot of people die in panama. >> while the biden administration has been sending mixed messages, mexico's foreign minister, marcelo, did little to discourage migrants saying those who want refugee status are going to be given it. mexico is one of those that least rejects refugee conditions. more than 13,000 haitians applying for refugee status at this very moment just on the other side of those banks. there's little sign of mexico's immigration officials on the bank. we don't see a single one right now stopping these crossings. and the migrants appear more willing to wait. >> a thousand haitians over here, over there, that's not going to help us until
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mr. biden helps with the situation. griff: it was fascinating talking with the migrants. in the times i was down there this past week we also heard from the foreign minister of panama warning that she believes some 60,000 igrants could be headed to the u.s. the pipeline starts in south america where many of the haitians live in brazil, in chile, they come through panama, and costa rica, and nicaragua, honduras, guatemala and mexico, and through that costing end up on our border and a lot of sources are worried for an october the likes of which they've never seen. alicia: griff, your reporting was just so eye-opening to be able to see that river you were on and that raft was incredible and it sounds like an impending surge that's going to come during this month and you have to wonder, the unstaffing that we see at the border, and the conditions that we already have, that our agents are
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there, pretty bad. griff: and i tell you, something to watch, alicia, is that the migrants really believe that the biden administration has given them a mixed message. under president trump they knew they weren't welcomed and that president trump had gotten mexico to crack down on the flow. will the me play for you quickly the migrant, joseph, about the mixed message. here is what he said. >> somebody just say biden has, we can go over there and will ultimately have the opportunity to start over. before that situation gets through, they're supposed to tell us, hey, listen, do not come because we have this coming through here. griff: secretary mayorkas and garland will be there october 8th and we'll see if this comes up. >> griff, i want to see more of you on that raft, you did a lot
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joining us. i want to play treasury secretary janet yellen weighing in about the debt limit fast approaching. take a listen and i want to get your thoughts. >> it is imperative that congress address the debt limit, if not our current estimate the treasury will likely exhaust its extraordinary measures by october 18th. america would default for the first time in history. the full faith and credit of the united states would be impaired, and our country would likely face a financial crisis and economic recession as a result. griff: mitch, your reaction? >> i actually agree, but the problem is that the debt ceiling, the debt limit is tied up in an overall differing approach on the two sides of the aisle around government spending and i think we need to sort of tackle the beg picture, we have national debt over 100%
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of gdp, and we don't see that until after war time and both sides of the aisle will think whether or not we can afford to borrow money the way we've been borrowing money as a nation. griff: let's talk about what's happening in congress, obviously, they continue to work on trying to get more time. the president even being summoned to capitol hill to throw water on the sort of progressives holding things up. the progressive wing of the democratic party holding things up. the economy, what impact would have it on the economy and wall street and american families and main street? >> we're going to potentially spend whether it's a half trillion or five trillion, we're going to spend more money over the next 10 years than we're taking in in tax revenue recordless how much we take in by corporations and families, and we print money. when you print money, plain and
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simple, it's inflationary, that's the number one concern of the consumer. we're seeing consumer fall to the lowest level in seven months and levels of expectation of inflation rise dramatically and that's main street. wall street is equally nervous and seen the last half of the september gyrations in the market because they're nervous about the spending planment and they like there's more money when they print it to invest, but the big picture, main street, wall street, both nervous. griff: when you separate the two paces, 1.2 trillion dollar bill, it's the social reconciliation bill, 3.5 trillion closer to the 2, 2 1/2 range. would it make a difference if it's 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 in terms of impact on main street and wall street? >> i don't think so, main and simple, griff, there's no way to raise enough tax revenue statically to pay for it.
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and what's interesting, the administration's notion that this costs zero, not to get overly wonky, but they're talking economic scoring and growth to pay for it. economic growth out to 2031 and the economy growing by 3 1/2% which it's not going to do if there's an inflationary spiral. i'm told enough to know the late '70s and early '80s, you didn't see it grow when inflation is high. again, this is a thing that's very, very concerning to investors and family's like. griff: such a great point. mitch rochelle, we'll have you back if and when congress gets something. you can have that dynamic score. thank you very much. >> you bet. alicia: griff, after the afghanistan collapse, we are
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>> afghanistan is facing an economic crisis which means many citizens may not have enough to eat as winter arrives. trey is in kabul with some of the tragic stories, hi, trey. >> griff, good afternoon, the afghan people are in desperate need of support. with the taliban in control, the international community has reduced the amount of aid flowing into this country and consequences are already starting to play out on the civilian tier especially the most vulnerable population. and we need to warn our viewers, some of the images may be disturbing. >> the young afghan is
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undernourished. and he's all that she has left, her daughter was killed. i don't have a brother, a sister, a mother, i just have my son. i can sacrifice myself for my son, one day he can grow up. >> the tragic story of one family is not unique, half of the population relies on international assistance to survive. with the taliban in control many traditional aid pathways are shut and hospitals are running out of supplies. to treat these vulnerable little kids. and here it the hospital in kabul kids are treated for malnutrition, just last month five died waiting for international aid to arrive. >> we need a lot of help. we only have a small amount of supplies tore for kids and patients. we can only take in emergency
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cases. >> the images speak for themselves. u.n.i.c.e.f. warns that one million children face starvation alone. >> trey, thank you. alicia: we've been following her story since the covid began. a colorado nurse speaks out on how her community is coping now with kids back in school and people still getting sick. >> my name is laura ingraham. i've been at fox news for 20 years, i was not at fox news the moment it started, but at another network and that network was having a good time with fox, thinking, oh, it's not serious, it's not going to last. that was the scuttlebutt and in the beginning, you think you're with the cool network and then as time went on i started watching it and i said, hmmm,
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>> as some start heading back to work, many states and businesses have begun implementing vaccines mandates for their workers, causing employees to ask is this necessary for my industry? and we're joined by a colorado nurse and owner of her own clinic. welcome back, lisa, good to see you. >> thank you. alicia: you spent 58 days in isolation after you contracted the coronavirus and you had an extensive recovery. how are you doing now? >> i'm doing really well. i've been hiking and biking and running, so i haven't had any issues. alicia: that's really good to hear. so when you hear about these vaccine mandates and you're a health care worker so that's something by law, here in colorado, of something that you
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had to do. what do you think when you hear about other folks in your industry and in other industries saying, i don't want to and i don't want to be forced to do this, with the prospect of losing my job? >> well, i believe in vaccinations and i believe they save lives. it is a personal choice, but it's also a professional choice as well, too, so i believe that the hospitals and the clinics and whatever the state mandates are, we are required to follow those, so i mean, i am for vac nation. alicia: and you're in beautiful crested butte, colorado, i'm so gel will us, it's so gorgeous there. at one point during the pandemic, it was one of the highest rates of covid-19 in the country. how are things now? >> things now have settled down, however, in early september we had a big spike. we had about 65 cases during
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one week and at the very beginning of september, i think, maybe it was related to going back to school and travel. now we have about 40 cases a week right now. so hopefully we'll start seeing more and more decline. alicia: that's good news. we have numbers to show how colorado is doing. colorado is higher than average in terms of vaccination. in colorado you have people fully immunized at 70.35% of the population of colorado. across the united states the average is a little over 55%. and now we're looking at boosters and there's a possibility of also having there company, merck, that has this pill that could lessen the chances of being in the hospital by 50%. do you think with this coming in the market and arguing offer mandates and booster, that
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people will continue to get the vaccination or stand back for a little while? >> i think that people will continue getting the vaccination. i know a lot of friends and family members in the community are asking when can i get the booster and now, you know, they have the people that may get the vaccine and that so i think it's really good. right now, i just applied for a grant in my clinic threw the department of health and environment for covid-19 vaccinations and we're trying to distribute those to as many people as we can right now. alicia: thank you so much for joining us today for this update. it's good to see you, it's good to hear you're out and lots of activities, our best to you here. thank you. >> thank you so much. alicia: griff. griff: the senate is about to gavel back in session against the backup of major divisions between the moderate and progressive democrats arguing over your money.
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managing to scatter moderates' hopes as stand-alone legislation. let's go right to mark meredith at the white house for the latest. hi, mark. mark: griff and alicia, good afternoon to both of you. democrats control the white house and congress but it's clear the house is split on the president's economic agenda. as you mentioned, we have two bills here that are essentially in limbo, one the bipartisan infrastructure agreement that most people expect to pass, the other one being the social safety net bill, the white house is trying to convince moderates and progressives to agree to get package done and moderate democrats will not support spending 3 and a half trillion dollars. they want to spend far less. the president, we heard from him as we left to delaware and he's convinced that it's all going to get done. >> there's nothing in any of these pieces of legislation that radical that is that is reasonable, when you look at
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individually. i will try to sell what i think the people -- the american people will buy and i'm convinced. >> do you think -- >> you asked me if i'm confident. do i commit that i'm going to do this, come on. i believe i can get this done. mark: so the president is going to be in delaware this weekend. we know he's going to be working the phones, reaching out the lawmakers and the white house says next week he will hit the road to stump for proposals. we are hearing from house speaker nancy pelosi today. she released new letter to her members, quote, out of respect for colleagues who support the bills and out of recognition for the need for both, i would not bring the infrastructure bill to the floor to fail. again, we will and must pass both bills soon. we have the responsibility and the opportunity to do so. people are waiting and want result. but some moderates are warning, the longer this drags on, this is only going to cost democrats next year's midterms elections. we heard from jessica, president
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putting entire agenda including infrastructure package at risk. they put civility and bipartisan governing at risk and, of course, republicans are pointing and saying, look at the disagreement within the democratic party, this is a need for big shake-up come 2022. we are also looking at some of the poll numbers that have shown the president's approval rate flipping with only 34% of people telling the associated press they feel the country is headed in the right direction. griff and alicia. griff: mark, one more question on those poll numbers because obviously the white house despite the confidence that the president exhibited there, they're concerned obviously for the reason that this is a must win. they need here but is the president's poll numbers overall being impacted by what's happening right now on capitol hill? >> you bring up a really good point, griff, you're right. most people i would imagine out there are not looking at what's going on in the south and senate on a daily basis. most people were likely focusing
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on the issues at hand, what's going on with the economy and what's going on with the pandemic and, of course, the fallout out of afghanistan. but when you have the story lines intertwined and front headlines that say dems in disarray, that certainly can't take its toll, griff. griff: it can, indeed. mark meredith watching everything that's going on there. thank you, mark. mark: you bet. ♪ ♪ ♪ griff: california is gearing up to impose the nation's first vaccine mandate for school children which will eventually impact over 6 and a half million public and private school students in the golden state. christina coleman is live from our la bureau with the latest, hi, christina. christina: hi, griff, yeah, california, the nation's most populist state will require the first state to require all school children to be vaccinated. democratic governor newsom says this is another first for california in terms of fighting this pandemic. governor: we have continued to
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lean in. california was the first state in the united states to require statewide school mask wearing requirements. we were the first state in america to require all of our staff to either be vaccinated and/or get weekly testing. kris chris mandate won't go into effect for all school children until after the fda fully approves the vaccine for two age groups, ages 5 through 11 and ages 12 through 15. full endorsement for the age group 12 to 15 likely within a few months. mandate will be enforced. the first school term following the approval, the governor says he hopes that will encourage more people to get vaccinated but republican assemblyman kevin riley is blasting the mandate, quote, at every turn the governor has let top special interest donors dictate pandemic policy. it is an abuse of public trust without precedent in our state's history and as for participants,
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-- parents have a mixed reaction. >> everyone has been vaccinated and haven't seen any ill effects. at least that i know of. i trust that the vaccinations are safe, safe for kids. i think it's a good idea. >> i think it's the parents' decision, you know, period. the government and in no shape or form should be having mandates like that. i don't -- i don't care for that. i'm a veteran, i served this country and i fought for those rights. christina: and once the mandate goes into effect for all students, teachers and staff will be required to get vaccinated as well. griff. griff: christina coleman live for us in la. thank you, christina, alicia. alicia: virginia candidates have debated twice, now it's time for them to make their final appeals to voters ahead of the november 2nd election. our alexandria hoff has more on what's motivating virginia voters and what's seen as a bell-weather race. hi a lex.
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alex: first gentleman was with ehoff, the latest issue is education and specifically should parents have a say over what is taught in schools? >> i'm not going to let parents come into schools and take books out and make their own decisions. [applause] >> i don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach. >> that was former democratic governor terry mccullough hoping to win the position during latest debate with republican glen youngken. >> parents what their children to receive a good education and they wont to be involved. what we heard he doesn't want them involved in it. >> later shared a change in
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perspective. >> parents of the child's influential teacher and any educational program keeps parents and their boys at the center of the conversation. that's -- that's clear. >> parents have pushed to be part of the conversation on issues like critical race theory, masks and transgender student rights. both virginia candidates are painting each other as too extreme. mcauliffe has focused on tieing youngkin to president trump and a democratic tactic that we are likely to see more. alicia: alexandria hoff, good to see you, thank you. griff: tragic, 16-year-old kylie silvers was doing what teens do on a gorgeous fall afternoon, hanging out in a park with friends when shots rang out striking the girl in the head. david lee miller has more on this shocking crime. hi, david.
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david: griff what happened to kyle silver is not unseen. it's 3 times compared to last year and covid -- pre-covid 2019. 16-year-old kyla was shot in the head in mid-afternoon, apparently hit by a stray bullet and the teenager taken to hospital where she underwent surgery, no arrests as of yet. the alleged shooter was one of three boys on bikes who fled the scene. only hours later a 16-year-old boy in brooklyn was struck in the leg after he got into an argument at a brooklyn park and the very same night a 21-year-old was shot and killed in the lobby of a midtown building. that investigation continues, again, so far no arrests. the latest round of violence takes place one day after new york city mayor bill de blasio came under criticism for saying the nypd has to improve what he called its customer service.
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and as part of that plan, will meet members of the public when they arrive at the local precincts. >> when people come into a room of folks all in uniform, it's a different environment. people can easily be intimidated. they need a friendly face. >> the most recent crime statistics from the nyd, slight increase of number of people shot compared to a year ago but the last 14 hours in new york have been especially difficult. there were a total of 8 shooting victims compared to two for the same period the previous year. griff. griff: difficult, indeed. david lee miller in new york for us. david, thank you. alicia. alicia: the biden administration issues new guidance that makes it much easier for millions of people in the country illegally. we will explain.
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see if you can save by switching today. comcast business. powering possibilities. images from the southern border this from our drone camera in the río grande valley in texas. a surge of migrants not only in the u.s. but other southern countries. jeff paul is in del rio, west of
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the rgv where migrants continue to cross the border. hi, jeff. >> yeah, griff, the mayor in del rio, texas, says they have information that anywhere from 20 to 50,000 migrants are in mexico and looking for a place to cross. so far this week we've only seen numbers around 5 or 6 at a time but authorities say they are bracing for that to change in a very dramatic way. sources, in fact, tell us that it's really not a matter of if but when and it can happen anywhere along the u.s.-mexico border. a new biden administration directive issue this week will likely change who and how many migrants are detained and deported. secretary of homeland security alejandro mayorkas wants ice agents to put the emphasis on those who pose a risk to public safety or national security meaning someone's immigration status alone isn't enough to warrant arrest or being expelled back to their home country. previously under the trump administration agents were able
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to detain anyone who entered the u.s. illegally. a huge relief to those -- >> they don't have anything like this. nothing, nothing, nothing. >> and then deport back to whatever country they came from, they are able to expel people due to covid. a judge ruling this week. griff. griff: for more on this let's turn to fox news contributor, former director of ice tom homan, tom, i want to
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immediately get your reaction to new guidelines issued by secretary mayorkas with respect to who they will now enforce border laws against? >> the policy is disgusting. i read it. last month, griff, record number of people coming to the country illegally. highest number in 20 years. in month ice arrested less people in the history of the agency. here is a fact. last year everybody that ice arrested in the interior of the 91% were convicted criminal or pending criminal charges. for the secretary, the secretary homeland said it was not enough. 90% of the people ice arrested last year are now off the table. the secretary has told ice, you will ignore the law. you ignore the oath you take and told border patrol you ignore and border patrol release people
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rather than deport people and ice can't arrest anybody in the country for being illegal. it's no longer illegal to be in this country illegally. >> tom, when you consider the change in the ice guidelines, how much of a pull factor will that be for the 50 or 60,000 migrants, many of them haitians that we have confirmed through the panamenian foreign minister and mexican foreign minister. how much for those and others like them to keep coming? >> it's a huge factor because this sends a message to the world. enter the country illegally. you don't have to report to court. enter the country illegally and don't commit another crime, a serious crime. you can commit crimes but just not murder, rape, arson. don't commit a serious crime and get convicted of it and no one is looking for you, no one will make you leave. here is what i think the secretary now thinks he's
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congress making new law as secretary. here is one more thing. there's 700,000 people in the country, fugitives that we gave a lot of due process to at taxpayer expense. 700,000 people ordered removed by federal judge, they have removal order issued by federal judge. ice has been told, you will not execute the orders and ignore the judge's order. why don't we shut down immigration courts too because the judges order doesn't mean anything anymore with this secretary in charge. griff: tom, you are taking a hard line on secretary mayorkas, when i was down in mexico and i believe we have this soundbite, i ran into -- i was surprised to see down in tapachula, mexico-guatemala border, his name is ernst e mojica, helped organize and instrumental in 2019 caravans and he was down there and he was telling me he's livid at the biden administration for sending a mix
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message to migrants, specifically he's upset with the vice president, take a listen. >> i remember kamala harris used to say, it was the places where they have the kids, there was concentration camps. now they have how many concentration camps that they are doing by their own. griff: how much of this falls on the plate of the vice president? >> look, she's the border tsar and she's a failure. she's the open border agenda person. she compared ice to the kkk. she doesn't support law enforcement on borders. she goes on tv every day. i'm looking for the root causes and she travels all to central america, walk down the hall and there's the root causes. i'm attacking the secretary because he's ignored the oath he took. he's supposed to be using the law of this country to secure
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our border and to protect our community from criminal aliens. he's ignored both. he told border patrol you no longer enforce law and allow people in to reach the united states. he's told ice, you will not arrest or remove criminal aliens. he's done the complete opposite of what his responsibility is. he needs to resigned and impeached because he failed to protect the country the way he's supposed to protect it and ignored the oath that he took when he became secretary. griff: last question. secretary mayorkas, october 8th, will be traveling the mexico to meet with officials, what can he do to help get mexico's cooperation to help stop this? >> look, i don't think the biden administration is going to push mexico the way trump did. their actions speak louder than words. as long as he stands on the stage in del rio and says, don't come, you won't succeed and be deported at the same time 12,000 are being released in the back door while he's talking and
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knows they are being released. as long as he keeps lying to the american people and actions dictate more than words he will fail down there. he's failed this country every month he's been secretary, every month the numbers keep climbing and last, 208, 212, no, 208 means less encounters and less border patrols on the border. that means more got aways, less guys being arrested and a lot more got aways around the border. he's failed every month. him going to mexico will make no difference at all. griff: you raised a good point. i got the final fiscal year 2021 numbers in the rgv sector they've had more than a half million encounters, up 500% and the sector known got aways, 40,604. those are people who don't know who they are. tom homan, thank you for your insight, sir, we will have you to talk more after the meeting
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with secretary mayorkas and mexico. alicia: on going fight on capitol hill over how to spend your dollars. gentlemen, thank you both for being here. to get the setup i want to begin with something that congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez said on thursday when she was asked about democratic senator joe manchin's top line of $1.5 trillion on the reconciliation bill. take a listen. [laughter] >> i mean, here is the thing, is that there's a lot of games being played with this number. there's lack of consistency and their lack of homework is creating instability to this process. alicia: and we have what senator joe manchin also said on
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thursday as well. take a listen. >> i don't fault any of them who believe that they are much more progressive and much more liberal. god bless them and all they need to do is we have to elect more, i guess, for them to -- elect more liberals. alicia: okay, well, we will begin with jose right now because chris is having technical difficulties. jose, let me ask you first, what do you think needs to happen in order for the president to have some sort of win here this week? >> with all due respect to alexandria ocasio-cortez, i think needs to go back to politics 101. you have to compromise and you have to meet in the middle. i'm not concerned about the numbers, 2 trillion, 2.5 trillion, we have to get something passed. back to your question, what does joe biden need to do, he needs to do what he did this past week. he went to congress. he needs to travel across the country which he said today he's going to do and continue making the case to the american people
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that we need to get this done. we need to get this passed. the social programs and the infrastructure bill. we need to get it done and progressives, the whole democratic party and republicans need to meet in the middle and get something done. alicia: i mean, this is kind a gift to republicans right now, jose. they are just standing back watching democrats have, i believe, chad put it good-old fashion food fight. do you think democrats will be able to get it together at this point because right now progressives don't seem like they're in any immediate to move and don't feel like they have to. >> they will. eventually they will. politics, compromise, negotiations take time. i think that next couple of weeks, there's no hard deadline or no set date but i'm very confident that progressives at the end of the day, they understand that they need something. some sort of bill is better than no bill at all. they will have to compromise with nod rate democrats and pass
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something for the american people. i'm confident that joe biden, the president of the united states, negotiator his whole life and has been in the senate for many years will be able to convince the progressive wing to have party to make sure they come to the middle and get something done for the american people. alicia: okay, and i believe that we have chris hahn. he beat back the technical gremlins. thank you very much, chris. jose believes that progressive wills have to compromise and come to the middle just a little bit, what's your response? alicia: and the technical gremlins are back. okay, so jose, back to you. progressives -- again, they really don't seem to -- they really feel like they can hold your party hostage and your president hostage as we are looking at midterms, republicans are salivating right now. >> you know, what's interesting, we have the midterms every two years, if they continue to do
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this, and continue to hold the party hostage, they are going -- it's going to come to bite them later on because the american people are tired of bickering and kicking the can down the road as they say. we need something done or the next is coming up. if they don't get anything done or continue to play the political games, i think the american people will vote them out of office. look, this is the democrats saying it with all due respect. i'm as democrats they come but i understand that members of congress send to washington to find the solutions to solve the problems that the american people have today. they will have to compromise with the more moderate democrats and they are going to have to compromise with the republicans. you know, joe biden becoming president of the united states, something taught us is that -- he said it we will unite the country. we are not in the trump era and we need to unite the country to get things done to the american
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people. alicia: jose, this turned into your spot. chris couldn't get the technical problem, it happens to all of us. griff: back to work on capitol hill. highway construction funding. we will have more on the ongoing spending debate next. ♪ ♪ ♪
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alicia: fox news alert. back to work they go. the senate now gaveling back into session to work on a short-term extension of federal highway programs. the bill faced pushback from senate republicans last night after passing in the house in a 365 to 51 vote. we will bring you more updates as the session gets underway. griff. griff: and for more on the spending bill negotiations on capitol hill we are joined by democrat congressman from massachusetts and member of the house transportation and infrastructure committee, jake,
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congressman, thank you for taking time on a saturday. obviously what you're seeing on the senate very important to prevent construction workers from losing their jobs, from highway programs from being suspended. what is your overall reaction to what we've seen here in just the last 48 hours after tumultuous week? >> thanks for having me on. the senate's vote is going to give us another 30 days of negotiates window for us to deliver the president's agenda. we are going to build back from the bottom up and the middle out. we are going to deliver both bills and it's going to be an important way that we demonstrate on the world stage that the democracies can win the 21st century. when president biden came to the house caucus yesterday he said to us, xi jinping and vladimir putin have both said to me, i don't think that democracies can make decisions fast enough to compete in this century. we are going to show them wrong.
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griff: congressman, you obviously were tweeting this week about the whole process saying that the american people don't remember their process, they remember the results. you mentioned the president's agenda, your colleague, democratic congressman josh putting out a pretty straightforward harsh statement saying that he believes that the far left fashion of your party can put the entire president's agenda at risk, your reaction in congressman: politics is a full contact sport. any time you're on the field, emotions dry high, adrenaline gets amped. ultimately, though, my constituents, americans broadly don't care about our feelings, they don't even really care about our interactions with one another, whether they get tents, whether they are amicable and what they care is we give them results and going to 2022, we are go to talk to our voters
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about how lowering costs and made earlier education for 2 and 3-year-olds, lower pocket costs for health care and how we rebuilt our roads and bridges and high-speed internet. griff: congressman, i think you're right, the american people want those results. let me play for you the chairwoman of the progressive caucus, congresswoman had this to say after stopping the speaker's plans in her tracks. here is what she had to say, listen. >> you all didn't believe me but i kept saying, we are not going to have a vote and i kept telling her that we didn't have the votes and i knew she knew that. griff: a little bit of a victory lap. congressman, have the progressive wing of the party which according to is about 40% of the democratic caucus, her words not mine, have the progressives taken over the democrat party? >> we are a coalition in the democratic party. we are not a cultive personality
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and gop wakes up and look at twitter for marching orders and we saw how that worked 4 years under the administration. that's not the way democrats will govern. we believe in debate and we will have debate and make our policies better, we will have the debate in public and have it in private. that's healthy for democracy. it's part of how we demonstrate that democracies can make big decisions and investments in the 21st century. ultimately, though, the democratic caucus is united that we have to build better back agenda and both bills need to be passed. griff: congressman, i want you to look into the crystal ball a little bit. obviously the two pieces of legislation now are attached and the president even admitting as much. how does this end? when does this resolve? >> my crystal ball is probably no better than yours except to say that i am confident we are going to pass both.
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i'm confident that the reconciliation bill, excuse me, is going to have big investments in lowering costs for working families specifically through child tax credit and early education. we will have big investments in climate action because we can't leave a planet that's overheat today our kids and we will make investments in health care to ensure that people are putting less out of pocket and that we are expanding access to health insurance for those people who have been left behind frankly by republican governors and state legislators. griff: last question, a few seconds. do you predict the 3 and a half trillion dollar number comes way down? >> i think we know that we need to negotiate within the party for that number to come down. and i'm less worried about the top line, i'm more worried about the policies inherent in the bill. early education is vital, climate action is vital, lowering healthcare out of pocket costs is vital. we can deliver on those things and still get to a number that passes the senate. griff: all right.
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we look forward to it. we will have you back, thank you congressman from massachusetts. >> good to be with you. griff: alicia. alicia: live images to show from washington where the annual women's march is taking place. speakers are expected to address reproductive rights. it's one of hundreds of rallies planned for cities across the united states. the movement hasn't attracted as much attention in recent years but in 2017 more than 1 million showed up in washington wearing memorable pink knit hats, griff. griff: alicia, coming up, an update on the search for brian lanudrie. that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪
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griff: brian laundrie's claim they saw son weeks ago.
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our charles watson is live in north folk, florida with the latest, hi, charles. charles: a lot of attention has turned to the desoto park campgrounds in florida. the laundrie family sister cassandra joined the week coming after cassandra told news he hasn't seen brian landrii when he returned to florida. law enforcement agencies are well aware of the dates. any prior communication by kathy that does not reflect these dates is simply a difference of relating an answer misinterpreted by cassie or poorly post by the inquirer. the laundrie's checked on
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september 6th before checking out two days later on the eighth. newly released body cam footage by the police department shows emotional patito speaking with police during suspected domestic incidents weeks before disappearance. >> there's two people that came to us and told him that they saw him hit you. [inaudible] >> where did you hit him? you slapped him first. on his face? [inaudible] charles: conversations heard between responding officers indicate they believe gabby's story but didn't want to apply utah's mandatory domestic violence arrest law because they didn't believe it applied in this case and griff as authorities tried to track down brian laundrie who has been missing for two weeks,
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protestors have been out here for hours at this point shouting at the laundrie family home. >> wow, a lot of protestors there. charles watson in north port, florida. alicia. alicia: ails we are joined by former fbi profiler. candies, thank you for being here today. i want to begin with that video of the vest video of the law enforcement interviewing gabby patito because she tells cops that she had been assaulted by brian and they had this discussion. did the law enforcement officers miss something here with regard to domestic violence? >> i think they possibly did and what that would be and i've watched that tape many, many times, domestic violence victims
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especially women victims frequently tell the police they were the cause of the problem, they hit the person, everything was their fault because they're frightened. i mean, there's many reasons. one of them is they may be frightened and they are convinced by the i will say offender that they are supposed to lie or bad things won't happen and gabby seemed -- i'm not going to say she was hysterical, she wasn't but she was very upset, could hardly construct a sentence and brian is cool, calm and collected and he tells the cops, well, she gets like this and i have to put distance between us and at one point he goes, she's just crazy. so that plants a seed that she's the problem, but she's the one that ended up dead.
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>> and law enforcement is trained, right, in identification of domestic violence language and behaviors, correct? >> well, i don't know what kind of training they did receive. they did appear to me to have received some training. they separated them, they're talking calmly to each of them, but ultimately they determined this was not a domestic violence problem. brian had scratches and he was proud to show the cops. look, look, she scratched me. she might have been defending herself. we know from witnesses that he hit her outside on the sidewalk and in the car. if somebody hits a woman in public, what do you think they will do in private. alicia: the search continues for brian and the sister who recently said she hadn't talked to her brother and was on the camping trip.
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what are we to make of that? >> it all looks to me -- well, regarding the sister and the new information that's come out and -- and the family attorney is saying she didn't understand the question she was asked or she was confused when she said she hadn't seen him, maybe or maybe not. what we know based on the opinion, what we know, the parents are covering for him. they were living in the laundrie's refused to talk to gabby's parents, why? alicia: a lot of theories of what has happened to him. you go on the internet, endless supply. one being that he was a victim of alligator infested waters and maybe he was taken there. he may not even be alive. it's got to be difficult for law enforcement to sort through so many of these quote, unquote, tips, information coming in,
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theories and that sort of thing. does it slow things down? >> theories aren't given as much weight as tips. i've been on tip lines for mass murders and things like that, serial murder and people want to help and i can tell you that law enforcement is able to determine what tips need immediate attention and what tips can wait till tomorrow and what tips are just nonsense and then psychics calling and mediums and that kind of thing. alicia: got it. candcie, thank you so much for your expertise, we appreciate it. >> you're welcome. >> have a good one. griff. griff: alicia, free bit neglect britney is areality, that couldl trouble for her father. that's up next.
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>> would have facilitated result of him being suspended these obligated under the law to turn over his files and to temporary conservator and is a cliché but one question that we are going o missus pierce representatives, not just lawyers or what did
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they know it when did they know it. >> was attorney and celebrating her first day without her father's conservatorship. with a naked picture on instagram, and wednesday so, what now pretty joining me is attorney and professor northwestern school of law in chicago. and i know andrea you're laughing about that is represent teenage doctors and were all shocked but this is serious side to this and that's why we are so fortunate to have you so let's talk about whether or not jamie spears could face even criminal charges let alone a civil suit. >> yes and i think the jamie spears faces both civil and criminal liability. some of what the have been made against him and new york times, and some are true for example, stuff like he was eavesdropping on her conversation and he had her room bug in california is
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what's called an old target consent state. that's against the law and to the extent that he did it, and right now published obligations, if he did that, it is very serious and he could seriously face criminal sanction. >> no images show for fairness, any spears attorney put out a statement on behalf of mr. spear saying that these facts make the outcome of yesterday's hearing, from thursday, all the more disappointing and frankly a loss for brittany respectfully the court was wrong to suspend mr. spears but a stranger in his place and let's talk about this civil liability. >> yeah the civil liability would be greater even in the high standard pretty has to show that in fact misappropriated her and this would be a high standard to get over because remember, the judge had been approving all of the expenditures for better part of
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these 13 years but to the extent there are expenditures that the judge didn't know about. if he reaches fiduciary duty, the remedy for that is' fees and remember he was charging $16000 a month plus another $2000 month for other expenses. so a civil attorney and think brittany is on the warpath pretty. >> sure seems like that's pretty thank you will bring you back at this free brittany warpath continues and thank you sir. that will do it for us this hour, and is going to be with you at in denver and i am dc obviously. >> thank you is always so nice to see you and "fox news" life continues with eric. >> have a good one. ♪ ♪♪ ( sighs wearily ) here, i'll take that! ( excited yell ) woo-hoo! ensure max protein. with thirty grams of protein, one-gram of sugar,
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>> president biden said he will find hard his domestic agenda a day after he made a rare visit to capitol hill and the president tried to add a standoff between and progressive democrats over the infrastructure and social spending bills that define his economic plan. but still no deal and house speaker nancy pelosi has set a new deadline of october 31st pass of $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package pretty here's president biden when told this morning as he left the white house or delaware.

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