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commitment remains to these americans and you talked about how we're switching from a military effort to a diplomatic effort. for the americans that are currently in hiding and who want to come home, what is the administration's message to them? should they head to the border or book a flight out or remain in hiding? >> the white householding a briefing after the president's message on afghanistan. it's 5:00 in new york city, this is "the five." president biden addressing americans for the first time since pulling all troops out of afghanistan. the president praising his his efforts despite the death of 13 service members. >> i believe this is the the
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right decision. a wise decision and the best decision for america. i was not going to extend this forever war. this assumption that the afghan government would hold on for a period of time beyond military draw down turned out not to be accurate. let me be clear. leaving august 31 is not due to an arbitrary deadline. it was designed to save american lives. >> president biden making this bold declaration on how the 20-year ended. >> extraordinary success of this mission was due to the incredible skill, bravery and selfless courage of the united states military and our diplomat it's and intelligence professionals. >> pete, let's get your thoughts first. i know you watched the speech up there. >> you can hear me. >> a little bit. >> i will say he ended by saying we have a future that is safer.
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anyone that is looking what is happening right now knows this is not true. if you walk back from that -- the last half was a strawman. as if we were debating about whether we should get out or not. that litigation has been done for quite some time. he also presented a false choice of you have to leave or escalate. built around that strawman as well. for me, it was a lot of blaming. who did he blame? he spent a quarter of the speech blaming donald trump for where he is and then blaming suzette sens for not doing enough to get out of the country. i also go back to where he started. he talked about only the u.s. would have had the capacity to do something of this size and scale. emphasized the numbers time and time again. we'll get to the number of u.s. citizens. a lot of americans looked into their screen and said, only the united states would have had the capacity do not have to do it this way. there were so many decisions
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that led us to this point. i keep going back to the point that you made yesterday, greg, as if this was a consensus for extremely successful mission. white washing over the entire reality of how we got where we were to include the new revelation that the taliban had offered us to secure kabul. we had been given the opportunity to secure kabul weeks ago before the taliban entered and we declined. so there was no contrition. there was no recognition that mistakes were made. instead, he doubled down on a false narrative and a false choice. >> a lot of straw men in there. an observation, not just from here at this table but in the white house briefing room about the tone of the president. watch. >> the president seemed angry at the beginning of this speech today. who is he mad it? >> i would say -- i'll give you
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a different assessment of what i saw, which is that he gave a forceful assessment to the american people as to why it was time to wind doubt a 20-year war that has led to the loss of thousands of lives and in hi views, and he made a firm case of this, it's not in our interests to be on the ground anymore. >> that might be true, hopefully is the case that they don't have the capacity but the tone was strange. it was like it came in hot initially. >> you know, i hated it when they would mind read trump. the dramatic changes in biden suggest that it's performance all the time. the fact that he can go this way, go that way, get -- it is though that it's a -- >> you don't think he's sincere? >> no. i'll tell you why. that was not a speech.
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it was a bait and switch. they're trying to redefine the outrage against the president as directed against the decision to leave and the achievement of the troops. so if you're mad about this, you're actually scorning -- keeping scorn on the troops when it's really obvious. we talked about this. no one is upset with the troops. nobody is upset with the decision. the thing that -- talking about the casualties of war. hi went there this. no one disputes the cost of war is understood. we're focused actually on the cost of incompetence. everybody understands that war is hell. we have friends that are missing limbs. we have missing friends. he goes through that. no, it's not about that. it's about your damn incompetence. it's like yes, we wanted to go on the maiden voyage of the titanic. we didn't expect you to hit the iceberg. he's conflating things things.
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it was a weird situation for him to take credit for this extraordinary success while at the same time blaming trump. he has it all backwards. the decision that trump made is correct. the fallow-through is abysmal. what he's doing is the opposite. he's saying the decision is bad but look what i did. i got us out of this mess. you got us out of a mess he created. the bigger airlift is a paper wrapping over a decision that you screwed up. >> this is president biden talking about his predecessor. we have that. >> my predecessor, the former president, signed an agreement with the taliban to remove u.s. troops by may 1 just months after i was inaugurated. it included no requirement that taliban work out a cooperative governing arrangement with the
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afghan government. did authorize the release of 5,000 prisoners last year, including some of the taliban's top war commanders among those that just took vol of afghan tan. >> geraldo? >> he's trying to obviously spread the blame. he wants trump to share some of the responsibility. to use the titanic analogy, what he did was they hit the iceberg right away. the titanic was mortally injured. it was a catastrophic success. had all of the bad intelligence, the most horrific failure of intelligence, maybe except for the russians not knowing that hitler was coming in 1939. >> what time frame are you talking about? >> i was talking about the intelligence in the beginning
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when he came in and didn't know the afghan army would lie. how did you not know that they would run? conversely, how would you hang your entire policy on the expectation of a decent interval? the afghan army would fight, you get people out in an orderly fashion and at some point the afghan army would exhaust itself and the taliban would win and they wouldn't blame biden because it happened two years after he pulled the truce out. so what happened is, he had bad expectations of the taliban being confronted by the afghan army. didn't happen. then he already evacuated the american troops. had the most vulnerable people had been left behind. had to reship in other warriors to protect the civilians. it was a real -- a massive screw-up that they did a pretty good job of cleaning up by the
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end. i doesn't undo all of the horror that happened initially. >> the afghan military -- the president spent a lot of time reiterating that. i imagine that he believes it and two probably polls well. it has been very offensive to people that said wait, you left in the middle of the night at bagram. you didn't tell the afghan commander that you were going. they did melt away and we are where we are. katie, you can comment. i want to play this for you in terms of the issue about afghan girls. this is what biden said during the speech. >> we'll continue to support the afghan people through diplomacy, international influence and humanitarian aid. we'll continue to push for reasonable diplomacy and engagement to prevent vial lines and instability. we will continue to speak out for women and girls all around
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the globe. >> that is probably an issue that they're seeing a again from the feedback from twitter feed, from friend and from the polling that that is an issue. >> it's a naive point of view. i know they're trying to clean this up and figure out some kind of solution to this disaster they've created by their dispute about what the military generals said and didn't say. a number of them said they told the president including a number of u.s. senators that the afghan army was not prepared. that is this question about being in afghanistan for 20 years and the lie propped up that the afghan army was capable of fighting off the military. but for diplomacy for afghanistan, it's completely opposite of the reality on the ground. they're hanging people from our helicopters. we have video of the taliban going door-to-door to execute translators that helped us. women are at the bottom of the
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list when it comes to rights in afghanistan. i talked to a marine friend today a lot of the girls are probably being sold off to minute as we speak. we know as the taliban came through the villages, they took women from their families and forcing them to get married including underage girls. this idea that they can talk their way out of this in terms of diplomacy now is dishonest. broadly speaking, the administration talks about diplomacy in a number of areas. diplomacy is the way we deal with nuclear iran. diplomacy is the way we deal with china and russia without these conditions. the future for those girls and the future of a foreign policy and a safety of america, they're going to pin it on talking to people. >> we have more to come. broken promises. president biden admitted people were left behind in afghanistan after giving his word that that wouldn't happen. ♪♪
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to stay in afghanistan until all americans are out. today president biden admitted people were left behind. >> since march, we reached out 19 times to americans in afghanistan with multiple warning and offers to help them leaves. only back as far as march. the bottom line, 90% of americans in afghanistan who wanted to leave were able to leave. for those that remain, we will make arrangements to get them out if they so choose. >> we've gone we've promised to get every american out to if you didn't get out it's your fault. >> that same day about being stranded, the white house took offense to that. "the new york times" said that americans will be stranded. now it gone from stranded to abandoned. even though we say we'll do everything we canned i hope we do i'm glad nor the americans
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that got here. i also understand that there might be some people that made tough decisions about what they might have to leave behind. parents being one of them. if they were targeted themselves, for example, some interpreters that -- that is the number that i think is abysmal. the administration won't give you any numbers on how many interpreter that got out. i have a feeling because it's really small talking to our pentagon reporters. celebrating with drawl while seeking credit for it but yet we have these people left behind is a hard thing to thread. i think that the hopes that you hear from blinken last night and his secretary of state in his speech, he quoted the taliban and the commitments and the things that they signed up to. has to be more than a hope and a prayer for that to get done. the other thing is, jake sullivan said this morning the white house press secretary repeated it, they continue to
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say there's nothing on the ground in afghanistan, nobody, that has the capability or capacity to hit the american homeland. i hope that is true. >> a big bet there. heraldo, the president as gone back on his words. he said that they wouldn't be left behind, he said this was an orderly process and planned for and here we are with stories of school age children that are stuck in afghanistan without american forces to get them to the airport. >> jen psaki kept emphasizing over and over that the people that are still in afghanistan are duel citizens, some are children, some are pregnant ladies who for reasons of their own health didn't want to move. i thought that she went over trying to convince us and i don't disbelieve her that the vast majority of americans are
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out and that through the qataris and others that they can negotiate the release of any others that want to leave. two quick points. biden during his speech emphasized hundreds of millions of dollars every day that we spend in afghanistan. $2 trillion. he also said pointing out and that's why we nor people like major hegseth, 1% of the people serve in the military. he doesn't want to send another generation of american gi's overseas. these are things that the american people care about. the reason why he's getting a pass on this even though conservative commentators are trying to slam him on the americans left behind business, we're sympathetic to the goal that biden sets to stop -- >> part was president biden's
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speech was off. he's not reading the room. most americans think we should have left. they're upset, they feel shamed. they feel dishonored. they feel like we have left people behind and they're upset precisely because of that and yesterday there's justification for it. >> yeah, that was 75% of the speech. we known for quite some time that we spent $300 million a day for two decades. these are things we knew. >> i knew them and i reremembered them today. >> i'm reremembering today that only 90% of americans that wanted out that can get out. imagine sayingly leave nobody behind except for the 10%. last time i did the mast, 5,000 americans came out, which means 10% is 500? a larger number that they reported previously. we've been talking about a couple hundred. there might be complicationed -- >> make they're not vaccinated. >> maybe not. i thought the story that came out that was most telling is the
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afghan interpreter that rescued joe biden in 2008 himself is pleading to get out. he was part of a quick reaction force that helped save these senators in afghanistan. vets are reported as saying if you can only help one afghan, choose mohammed. he's been stuck in the siv process. he was there for senator joe biden when he needed him. he fought a hundred firefights with u.s. forces. he's not on the list. he's not on the airplanes. he's been left behind. imagine how -- what a prize he would be for the taliban >> greg? >> yeah. if you're leaving 10% behind, i don't think the war is over. i just don't think -- you can play with the rhetoric and talk about it. that's -- doesn't feel that way. how many -- pete, how many is that? 200, 300 people that are still back? americans. >> they're still there. be i that math, 500. >> they're admitting it's 200. >> imagine what you can do with
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that. it's like -- >> in terms of what? >> we're a country that is paralyzed by smart phone videos of police brutality. do you know what you can do to this country with 500 hostages, 500 executions? do whatever you want. i don't trust anything out of this government. i'm hoping that maybe they're lying and that they're working to get these people out but they can't talk about it, right? maybe this is just a smoke screen and that actually -- we would they tell us anyway? why would they tell us? i don't know. we had general mckenzie saying that proudly demilitarized 27 humvees, right? what is the the denominator? is it 27 out of 27 in 27 out of 100 or 27 over 22,174? pieces of good news but it's lining we're not hearing the truth. maybe there's a reason for it. >> you don't see the truth.
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to those that are engaged in terrorism against us our or allies, we will thousands more troop forget. we will hunt you down to the end of the earth. >> and jen psaki was pressed about new potential threats to the homeland. >> does the administration believe that al-quaida is no longer a threat to america and given the isis attacks, how confident is the military that afghanistan is not a safe haven for terrorists? >> i think first there's a difference between terrorists ability to attack u.s. troops in kabul and to attack the homeland. we have -- we do not assess that any terrorist group on the ground has the ability to attack any group the homeland in the united states. >> what are your thoughts on that, katie. >> they're getting caught u.s. force in afghanistan as a place
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rather than islamic terrorism as an ideology, which is happen in afghanistan, they can plan a 9-11 style attack if they have the room to do it. it can also happen in the united states and europe as we saw throughout the obama administration where they refused to acknowledge this idea that we're fighting an ideology, not just a country or this enemy that is not traditional, right? if you go back to what obama's kind of policy was and foreign policy when joe biden was the vice president, you see this theme of denying the reality. yes look at iran and the nuclear agreement. they don't want conditions. you saw the huthis, they took the terrorist label off of them. so i think that's where we are. we're back to this ideology of not accepting the reality that people want to kills. there does have to be this
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balance between combatting china and russia in bigger traditional powers with islamic terrorism but you can't ignore this is still going to be around. >> pete, remember how isis was just flourishing and then was. >> what changed? >> i don't know. do you know? is it lots of bombs? i think so. >> unleashed military? >> yes. >> turns out that matters in that neck of the woods for sure. it all comes to me comes down to the false choice that exists between leaving, you have to completely leigh or you escalate all the way. i'm worried about the fact this is the same white house saying nobody could have seen that the afghan troops would melt away. now everyone is telling us that isis does not have the ability to attack us at home. which am i supposed to believe? that gives us pause. we know legitimized the taliban as a terror state and we know
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they're in bed with al-quaida and the haqqani network. that doesn't mean we stay. >> then it's october, then next year and -- >> you leave when you have the united states citizens out and under conditions that -- >> put it in geraldo's frame of mind. it's like getting a divorce. >> yes. >> but you work toward it. everybody gets together. >> the more you fight the inevitable, the bigger the price you pay. this is a voice of wisdom. >> a terrible analogy on my part. >> he's an expert. >> i'm the expert. i worry that it sounds almost like we're rooting for more failure in afghanistan when i really do believe there is a narrow window with this taliban
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de facto government is now morphing into or evolving into a government. it has to be a government. there's good governments, bad governments and vicious governments. the taliban will be whatever the taliban is but it's a government. a government has to have relations with other governments to function as a government. right now there's not a bus driver in kabul that has been paid. there's not -- nobody has been paid. if you have no money and you have no food, the people that can provide money and food have leverage, this is real leverage. i foresee -- write this down. i foresee in a week or two there's a bus of americans that the taliban is escorting to a commercial flight -- >> because they want money. >> because they want food. they want money. >> ransom payments. >> if our money is contingent on that bus, aren't we paying a
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ransom? >> yes. >> let me be clear. nobody is rooting for more failure. what we're lamenting is that character and honor matter. our dignity matters. our position in the world matters. that is why people are mad. i appreciate the president said in his opinion, also in the constitution, his job is to protect america. i would have started there today with that speech. instead of coming out hot, taking every talking point, that we heard from mckenzie, lincoln, sullivan and jen psaki. setting that aside and saying i'll protect you. everything in my power to protect you. that is my solemn vow to you. go on from there to talk about whatever else. i want to say one more thing. i wrote this down. i see you wrote it down, too. this yemen comparison is driving me up a wall. he used it with peter doocy the other day. first of all, media tip, never
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answer a hypothetical if you're doing an interview. it's strange for a president to ask the media a hypothetical. do you think if al-quaida had been in yemen and then 9-11 had happened, that we would have gone into yemen? come on, man, we wouldn't have. yes, i do think that if -- yeah, that happened, yes, i do, that would have been -- >> or no, we wouldn't -- >> it was basically anywhere, right? that's where we were going to prevent that. >> really stupid. that's our president. up next, the talibanshowing off billions in military hardware we left behind. ♪♪ as i observe investors balance risk and reward, i see one element securing portfolios, time after time. gold.
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>> the jubilant celebrating taliban. billions of equipment left behind by our fleeing forces. new images show that the taliban were special forces gis, decked out in other military gear courtesy of the united states. the taliban making a show of inspecting a armored vehicles and disabled aircraft. john kirby down playing the significance of the hardware that ended up in taliban hands. >> what i will tell you about this, dana, the kinds of equipment we're talking about while certainly there's a lethality component, it doesn't pose a threat to the united states, doesn't pose a threat to neighboring nations. these are not the kind of things that the taliban can make great strategic use out of. >> so the admiral is making a
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distinction between an ak-47 and the strategic weapons, he's suggesting that nothing that we left behind has strategic value. yeah, it's -- if you're firing over a grassy field, it's one thing. doesn't threat tern america. >> i say it has strategic value to the taliban. why do i feel like the flares that may were shooting, it wasn't because they want to be more effective running a bus route. the taliban is worryn't about the welfare of their people. what did they do first? ban music. women in public, go home. women with jobs, go home. they're adherent to, as katie said, radical islam and their belief is if they crack in that code, they lose their legitimacy. so administering public services is not what they care about. what they care about is using that equipment to consolidate
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their grip of fear on the people, on their opponent so as to not be challenged. from there they can consider whether or not they want to use at their disposal to strikeout side of afghanistan. >> dana, this equipment they have accumulated here doesn't make any difference, doesn't really? >> i hope not. i admire admiral kirby for coming on. i thank him for that. if what he says turns out to be true, great. but it's bizarre. you have these -- the taliban wants to live in the seventh century, but they want 21st century weaponry. why? what pete is a saying, there's a propaganda effect and a show of force to say that they have it. >> the one thing about the taliban, what about these terror groups that al-quaida in africa and what they're doing and kidnapping young girls. >> same. >> we don't have the same rage. we don't have the same -- >> what doesn't?
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>> we don't have the same -- >> about al-quaida? >> we barely mention -- >> boca horan. >> if you can count me out of that. everybody at this table and the network. we're clear on it. we just had a presidential election. the big issue was covid and the economy as it should be. these issues on foreign policy. neither gore or bush in the whole year was ever asked about al-quaida. but it's the forefront of our mind now. i understand we're much better dealing with terror threats because of the posture since then but doesn't take away from -- isis and the taliban don't like each other but they hate western civilization. >> isn't the real problem that we lost? isn't the real problem that everything, all of these aggravating circumstances like them taking possession of the humvees and so forth, it is
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aggravating and americans are so proud, so patriotic, we want to win. >> this is part of the loss, this is the loss of taliban taking over the country and being stronger than they were on september 11th, 2001. there's been a lot of things said the past two weeks that made no sense by this administration. but for john kirby to say the taliban has no strategic use of these weapons is completely asinine and opposite of what we're seeing on the ground. who borders afghan? iran and pakistan. you don't think the taliban is willing to sell their equipment to make money? look at the propaganda part of this. talking about the future and the administration saying today that the terrorist organizations can't hit the homeland. you don't think the propaganda
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at the airport where we fled and in our fatigues? that's not a propaganda mass recruitment for these organizations? not just the taliban and afghanistan but hamas and gaza for other terrorists all over the world. terrorists in africa. this doesn't just stop with afghanistan. of course these weapons can be useand they've been using them to executed our people on the ground. >> how do you know? >> hey hung a guy with our helicopter. they're hanging people from hour helicopters. >> and reporting object the ground. >> so an ak-47 is not going to make them any more lethal to the united states. that's admiral -- >> i wish you could have that attitude in america. >> owning that gun is not a problem. i wish everybody felt that way anyway. i want to talk about what pete brought up, the fact that the taliban just banned music and to put a pin in that as people like to say.
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they executed a folk singer. they shot him in the head. and there was a call for help from this organization called chuffed. it's a nonprofit clarity. their goal is to get musicians and families out of afghanistan before they're murdered. you can get information. there's something that you can do to help them so they need donations and i guess assistance. so far they've helped 20 different musicians and there's seven still waiting to get out. that's something that you can do. it's called chuffed. it's a word from australia. so chuffed.org. >> ahead, has joe biden doomed his presidency? democrats hoping it doesn't cost them big time. ♪♪
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♪♪ >> president biden and the democrats are hoping americans have a short memory and fred all about the fiasco that they
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unleashed in afghanistan before the mid-terms. that won't happen any time soon. 84% of americans say troops should have stayed there until all americans, not 90%, are evacuated. we're short on time. let's go around the horn. it was covid, crime and border. now it's afghanistan. how does this cut? is this on the mind of voters? >> i think it is. it is right now. but the enemy of us is our own attention span, whether we can focus. because we live in a different world to quote joe biden where we're like this the whole time. who know what's will happen tomorrow, right? something else. under joe biden, something else will happen tomorrow. >> remember the taliban said you have the clock, we have the time. that's been proven again. also we have more capabilities than before in 20 years. let's utilize them and support them. these swing district democrats already know that their days are
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probably numbered for being members of the house of representatives. you take redistricting that is already going to give you the possibility of a house-led republican congress. now what i have seen in the last couple days is that the republicans might be able to actually flip the senate as well. if that's the case, they go into 2024 in a different position. >> i think the president was banking on his image of calm, confident, competence and that's all blown away. i think that the republicans have an excellent chance of sweeping the board in the mid-terms as of today. >> i would say i hope that americans remember. i think depending how bad this gets, if it gets worse, there's hostages and people can't get out. it will drag on. the white house wants it to go away. they're trying to shift the debate on how we should have left afghanistan. i hope americans pay attention. >> it could drag out.
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the rescue. >> dana: i want to watch that. that's amazing. i didn't know that was happening. awesome to hear. i have a podcast up doesn't have anything to do with afghanistan. i talk with aimee mayo a country music singer songwriter mostly a legend. wrote a book talking to the sky which i loved up at fox news podcasts.com take a look there and greg, you are next. >> greg: gutfeld tonight we have emily compagno. buck sexton, kat timpf. greg animals fake news. fake news has infiltrated the animal world. take a look at this video right here. stole the story this somehow this rat has learned to play the harmonica. >> jesse: it does look real. >> greg: i hate having videos lying to me about rats playing harmonica i want to see a rat
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playing actual harmonica. >> dana: send that in and send it to greg's personal email address as well. geraldo? >> geraldo: the latest edition of geraldo's geraldo news with geraldo today featuring my grandchildren. [laughter] go from my gabrielle and deb my oldest, his son desmond is in little league or whatever they call that nowadays. my middle grandson for my son cruz liam, 4 and a half already a football player. amazing the little league they have. and there is sweety ella rose, she is 6 years old. already a cheerleader. >> greg: nice gender roles, geraldo. >> we have traditional. >> geraldo: she picked them. vincent the youngest pining away wants to get out there. send me in coach. >> dana: cute hat. katie? >> katie: we love music played by cute little puppies. take a look at puppy playing the
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bongo. it's awesome. >> greg: fake news. >> katie: getting a politic of help from the owner. is he making a noise at the bongo. cute little dog. he should start a band. >> greg: fake news. >> katie: it's real news. >> greg: that's a reasonable doubt rowing. >> dana: fake animal news. i think we have a new segment tune in every night for something more. "special report" suspect next. >> bret: definitely need to investigate the rat and harmonica. >> dana: get on that. >> greg: so funny. ♪ >> bret: good evening. welcome to washington i'm bret baier. breaking tonight. >> the bottom line is there is no evacuation from the end of a war that can you run without the kinds of a complexities, challenges, threats we faced. i refuse to continue a war that was no longer in the service of the vital national interest of our people. >> bret: a combative commander-in-chief defending his decision to end america's

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