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pentagon to manhattan. over 400 people representing fallen first responders for 9/11. frank, we thank you, we are inspired by his work. lawrence: we honored his brother, where it all started. rachel: maybe he will bring back renewed patriotism. peter: go to church, everybody. maria: good sunday morning, everyone. thanks so much for joining uses. welcome to sunday morning futures. i'm maria bartiromo, today changing the subject. the southwest border is wide open with lawlessness. 1 million apprehended this year already. tens of thousands of others get aways, fentanyl, now covid cases up 900% and yet in congress it's crunch time ahead of the senate's august 6th recess. senator chuck schumer trillion
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dollars of spending, will he get 60 votes? i don't meaning up barrasso on why he will vote no to free college, check in the mail, amnesty for illegals and climate agenda in the 5 and a half trillion dollar agenda. former trump adviser stephen miler on why title 42 means life and death in america surge in covid cases. the gloves come off as masks go back on. nancy pelosi calls gop leader a moron to reporters as she threatens arrest for maskless vaccinated capitol staffers. [inaudible] maria: coming up former
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neurosurgeon and hud secretary ben carson on the science behind the delta variants and politics behind freedom. former president george w. bush adviser larry lindsey on china debt and u.s. policy. all right here right now on sunday morning futures. ♪ ♪ maria: but first this morning, super-spreaders of panic and confusion. the cdc and president biden with loaded words and back-tracking on masks and covid this week. here is the first story we heard and this past week. >> anyone fully vaccinated can participate in indoor and outdoors activities, large or small, without wearing a mask or physical distances. based on the continuing downward
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trajectory of cases, the scientific data on the performance of our vaccine and our understanding of how the virus spread, that moment has come for those who are fully vaccinated. >> the cdc recommends you wear a mask when you're in public and indoors -- like work and even if you're fully vaccinated and protected from severe illness of covid-19, you could have the delta variant in your system and spread it to someone who isn't vaccinated. maria: so now if you're vaccinated, you could be spreading it? joining me right now wyoming senator john barrasso. the third-ranking member in the senate republican leadership. he's also a medical doctor. senator, it's great to see you this morning, thanks very much for being here and, of course, i want to get your thoughts on covid in a moment but i've got to start off by asking you, if
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covid is this urgent threat that we face once again with the delta variant, why are you and your colleagues negotiating another spending bananza on $7 trillion on education, maybe if you're lucky roads and bridges. >> chuck schumer wants to pass two bills through congress. one is the true infrastructure bipartisan bill that people are working on. we still haven't seen it. it's going to be a big piece of legislation but more concerning to me, maria, is this massive spending bill, liberal wish list. it is the largest spending bill in the history of the united states and if this passes, people are going to suffer significantly, they are going to feel the heavy weight of the taxes, the ongoing inflation problems and the debt. it is going to chew away and eat at people's paychecks and eat at their savings. people are already paying
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because of inflation, higher dollars for gas, housing, you name it and, maria, this is spending on top of the $6 trillion already spent in coronavirus relief, plus it is loaded with liberal policies included amnesty for illegal immigrants and also includes civilian climate corp. they want to hire a million people who many are protestors of the keystone pipeline. look, chuck schumer says nobody goes home on august recess until they pass these two things and i'm willing to stay in washington until hell freezes over to stop bad things in our country. maria: we have to get into the details of the bill and really what's in it. i know that it's almost 3,000 pages, i'm talking first the infrastructure bill. what's in the infrastructure bill. tell us that? senator: yes, there's actually a bipartisan bill that folks are working on. last night -- as of last night,
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2700 pieces, bits and pieces are starting to come out. people are seeing a bit of it and it's supposed to focus on roads, bridges, ports, airport, broadband, things that people need and they want and there is value in it. republicans want to make sure that it's actually paid for and we want to read it. this can't be the old nancy pelosi first, you have to pass it and then you find out what's in it. the best way to pay for this is repurpose covid relief funds that have already been committed but not yet spent. from the parts that i have still have concerns about it but the biggest problem is nancy pelosi has said she will handcuff the two together and the infrastructure with spending monstrosity with reckless tax and spending. maria: you haven't seen much of it, you don't really know what's
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in there? senator: we are still looking for the details of it. the parts i'm concerned, i'm from wyoming, energy state, it's a bipartisan bill. i am concerned of the energy component. they have this approach that i think is not the right one for america. we have gone from an energy-dominant nation under president biden, we are becoming more energy dependent and i think it's the wrong way to go. maria: all right. it's just extraordinary to me that you really do not know what's in the infrastructure bill. there's a trillion dollar and you don't know the details of that one and then nancy pelosi wants to tie it to the other massive spending bill which has plenty of gimmicks in it. is it valued at 3 and a half trillion or 5 and a half
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trillion? senator: i think it's much higher. i think it's much higher than democrats are admitted to at a time we can't afford it. you look at the run away inflation. nancy pelosi says not a penny for roads, bridges, or airports unless and until the senate passes this much bigger as you say 5 trillion-dollar bill. that wasn't a negotiation with nancy pelosi. this would be terrible for the country. she's not just a highjacker but whatever sonnist because she's putting fuels on the flames and the people who will suffer under this is people living under fixed income and seniors, people getting by paycheck to paycheck, all americans will pay through inflation, through taxes. joe biden says we are only going
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to raise taxes on businesses and people making a lot of money. you cannot fund something this expensive without everybody in america getting hit. maria: it's just extraordinary. i want to go back to this in a moment because i want you to detail the kind of tax increases that are in that bill. first, let's talk about the urgency at hand because while you are in this, you know, jam session, the next two weeks, schumer wants to get the bills through and we are also hearing confusing and panic reaction from the cdc with regard to the delta variant. you are a medical doctor. what is the cdc telling house? you just heard joe biden saying well, if you've been vaccinated, you can spread it and you're supposed to wear a mask indoors now? senator: the only message that i know which is vaccines work. if you want to protect yourself and your family, the best thing you can do is get vaccinated. i'm a doctor, i've been
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vaccinated as is many wife, my adult kids. it is protective. if you have questions, talk with your doctor. now for the chaos coming out of the cdc and joe biden. they ought to be sued for medical malpractice. they flip-flopped, may 13th, if you've been vaccinated, you don't need to wear a mask anymore. now they are saying, no, no, you need to go back to the mask. how are you going tone courage people to get vaccinated, hey, even if you get vaccinated, you still have to wear a mask. a lot to have anger that i hear is the fear that this administration since they flip-flopped on masks, are they going to flip-flop on shutdown and are they going to shut down schools again. our schools have lost an incredible amount in a last year to think about the possibility of shutting down schools again is just awful and what's happened in congress, nancy pelosi tells the capitol hill police to arrest vaccinated staff members if they're not wearing a mask in the united states capitol.
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at the same time, maria, you have wide open southern border, 180,000 undocumented, unvaccinated people each month coming to the united states with a wide open border policy carrying diseases, most about every conceivable in the world bringing them into america unchecked. maria: yeah, senator it's all quite convenient with about a year to go before the midterm elections. it doesn't appear that the democrats can win on policy, so what are we going to do, have a lookdown in the summer of 2022 so we ensure mail-in ballots are flowing from empty parking lots and dead people? senator: well, i think you're right on line on that, maria which is what the democrats are trying to do. they is have a two prong approach, liberal policies on amnesty and civilian climate corp and the things that are expensive and bad policy and
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then there's the second track, which is to undermine elections and integrity of elections making it easier for democrats to cheat. what they want to do is number 1 priority bill is s1, you don't need to have voter id anymore, let's have ballot harvesting where they have paid operatives go door to door and pick up ballots and then, of course, they want the governments to fund the elections. all of these things undermine the elections and on top they want to make the district of colombia a state with two more democrat senators making it much harder for republicans to take the senate and then finally they are talking about stacking the supreme court and under that circumstance, they want to put -- they have legislation to put four more justices on the supreme court now which will then take you to 13, of course, 4 liberal justices put to the by president biden, that's how they undermine the structure and the stability of the united states. maria: meanwhile the doj is
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warning the states, don't even think about auditing anything about election 2020. the department warning states to thread carefully. are they getting political? senator: sounds that way to me. the integrity of the election comes to the states. the states need to make their own decisions. parts of what the democrats are trying to do with s-1 is take the power for elections away from the states, give it to the federal government so they can have unilateral control making it much easier for them to cheat and determine the outcome of elections. maria: wow, what a state of affairs. just extraordinary. john barrasso, thanks very much for walking us through it all. great to see you this morning. we will be watching the next two-week crunch time for sure and whether or not you get a summer recess. senator: i don't care about the recess. i care about the future of the country. maria: as do we, thank you so much, senator john barrasso.
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covid or no covid, the department of justice says keeps flow of migrants coming in and former trump aide stephen miller on unprotected border and impact and later caution caution on liberty and freedom under attack lucia. who announces her intentions even if no one's there. and sgt moore. who leaves room for her room. with usaa safepilot, when you drive safe... can save up to 30% on your auto insurance. get a quote and start saving. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for.
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♪ ♪ ♪ >> under the trump administration they pretty much had crossed border illegal immigration, shut down, all that biden had to do is continue trump policies and we would have no problem on the border whatsoever and now it's getting worse because biden is opening the flood gates for people who are coming from countries where there's an extremely low vaccination rate and there's extremely high number of people coming across the word whore do have covid and our goal is to continue to arrest people coming across the border but at the
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same time surge more national guard, more texas department of public safety officers to make sure that we are doing everything that we can as a state to secure the border. maria: welcome back, that was governor greg abbott on this program last weekend. the number of coronavirus cases among migrant detainees are now up 900% year over year in the rio grande valley sector. that is just the ones who have been tested. in june 39,000 got aways were seen on surveillance. we don't know if they had covid or not likely escaping into the interior of the country. we don't know what their intentions are. joining me right now the architect of president trump's immigration policy stephen miller, founder of america first legal, nonprofit fighting back against the biden agenda. thank you very much for being here this morning. you heard governor abbott and you know that covid is coming across as well as human trafficking and drugs. your thoughts on where we are in
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this crisis at the border? stephen: first of all, governor abbott is entirely correct. under president trump's craigously leadership there was zero releases at the southwest border in 2020. in other words, if you crossed the border illegally, you were stopped and sent home. a central part of the strategy after the pandemic hit was an authority known as title 42, you may hear this a lot in the news. it's a public health authority exercised by cdc and in this case carried out by border patrol and ice. and the principle of it is very simple which is during a pandemic, if you come into this country, your very presence here, if you enter unlawfully is a threat to public health, full stop, you go home. there's no process, there's no procedure, there's no asylum. you are removed either to mexico
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or to a third-party country or your home country. that's it because to take you in, to keep you here, to process you, to put you into the system, you will infect other migrants and you will infect agents and members of the community and you will infect ice officers. if released, you will infect the country. there's no way to safely conduct illegal immigration during a pandemic. in fact, it is the most unsafe form of travel. what president biden has done suspended title 42, plus the vast majority of illegal alien families. so these groups are entering the country unrestricted illegally being resettled by our border agencies and spreading the disease throughout the country.
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one very important point about this, even if you test illegal immigrants without title 42, you are not safe. why is that? because let's say you have 6,000 illegals show up one day at the border and 10% test positive or 600 people and let's pretend the administration quarantines those, which they are not doing, let's pretend that they did. you release the balance of the 6,000. you don't think there's a huge number of those who will be positive the next day, the day after that. testing is a small one shot in time. it can live in the system 5 days, 6 days before they test government. even if they test negative they are living with other positive illegal aliens in unsanitary conditions. bottom line, maria, to bring this home, this administration is bringing variants into the
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country and bringing disease into the country and bringing covid into the country for the soul purpose for facilitating law breaking. this is an attack on the health of every citizen. maria: no wonder we are worried about putting masks back on and the threat of the delta variant. we've got to continue digging in because i want to know why. stay with us. more with stephen miller after the short break.
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maria: welcome back, we are back with stephen miller, the founder of america first legal. stephen, you explained title 42 really well and we appreciate that because this is the crux of the really deterrent for people to come and there isn't any
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deterrent right now. john solomon is reporting that there's a bipartisan call for bide on the appoint a new border tsar. apparently kamala harris being criticized as she continues to search for the root causes of this illegal migration. representative henry cuellar and senator lindsey graham are asking president biden to appoint former homeland security secretary jay johnson to a special executive position to manage the border crisis according to john solomon, your thoughts on what kamala harris is doing in the face of all of this? stephen: yes, for one thing i think it's pretty clear that the vice president's political ambitions are effectively destroyed as a result of her administration of the border. but it's important for people to keep in mind that she's not the one making the policy decisions. the policy decisions are being made by the faceless radicals throughout the biden administration who are running the show.
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their white house staff, dhs staff, most of whom will never be known to the american public, who are making these truly, truly deadly decisions that are resulting in drugs, disease crime as well as just large-scale illegal immigration that drains our finances and destroys american life and wealth. i totally agree the vice president should be replaced but ultimately she's only being used as the fall person behind a scheme that staff has put together. maria: well, look, at the same time you have crisis at the border blowing up with regard to elicit narcotics, human trafficking and covid cases and yet look what we are focused on in congress, they are debating $7 trillion of new spending and you have the department of justice sending warning shots out to states, don't even think about doing and ad it of election 2020. we spoke with blake masters here
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on this program last week and running if the senate seat in arizona. here is what he said about what's taking place right now in his home state. >> i'm glad we are auditing. you know, i come from the business world. we audit businesses every year all of the time. it's a routine good practice and that's when we don't suspect anything is amiss. and so many people from the journalistic class or the democratic establishment and even if republican establishment in arizona they are reflexively anti-audit which makes no sense because like tens of millions of americans, probably a hundred million americans and joe biden voters if we are being honest, i look at what happened in the 2020 election and i see a lot of problems. they want to say a it was a perfect election with a perfect result, maybe, but it didn't look perfect. maria: well, the doj doesn't go. they're saying to states thread
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carefully in auditing elections especially in 2020, stephen. stephen: on the first point that you made, it is insane that we are having a conversation in washington when our infrastructure is melting down our very eyes and the sovereignty of the country is being wiped out. they ought to have the position that there will be no negotiations with this president over any of his signature policy priorities as long as he is failing in his fundamental constitutional obligation to protect the nation's borders, in fact, doing the opposite, working through radical staff to eliminate, erase and invalidate our nation's borders. on the point about election audit, anybody who opposes a forensic audit of the election is in favor of fraud. it's that simple. you cannot have an election, not ever in which people can mail thousands of ballots in and
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there's no effort to link the ballot itself with an actual registered lawfully registered voter. just nameless ballots disconnected entirely from any real verified voter. maria: yeah, and by the way, big tech is right there with the doj. let me just tell you that earlier this week, twitter suspended all maricopa county audit accounts for quote, unquote, violating twitter rules as forensic audit approved by the senate. >> big-tech election interference we saw as suppressing severe allegations against hunter biden and saw in the form of facebook, i should say mark zuckerberg of facebook spending hundreds of millions of dollars to help administer our
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country's election and we continue in form of suppression about invaluable election security measures like audits and voter audit and reforming the mail-in ballot system in the country and we should all be terrified about a prospect that a handful of silicon valley billionaires can control how we administer, operate and talk about elections in this country. maria: stephen, great to get your insights on all of this. we will keep a spotlight on this. thank you very much as you pursue your lawsuit against the small business administration. we will follow that as well and get to that in the next time. stephen miller, thank you. dr. ben carson weighing in on the delta variant and it is real and he is going to show us the impact and trust in the cdc during the pandemic era it has plummeted plus the rising number
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six or seven months ago as it relates to the virus as many medical experts have said inside or outside of the government, those who have vaccinated are protected from serious illness. most are asymptomatic. if they are individuals who are vaccinated that get the virus and, you know, we are in a different place in terms of the impact of individuals who may have as you said breakthrough cases. >> why not provide the number, are you trying to hide something? >> no, but why do you need to have that information? maria: why do you need this information, white house secretary jen psaki telling a reporter she doesn't need to know about so-called breakthrough cases among staffers, that means people who got covid even though they were vaccinated. joining me retired neurosurgeon who served as the 17th u.s. secretary of housing and urban development, dr. ben carson is founder and chairman of the american cornerstone institute and dr. carson, it's always a pleasure to see you, thank you very much for being here this morning, sir. >> thank you for having me,
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maria. thank you. maria: what do you make of this, really, jen psaki will not release the number of people who have gotten covid who were vaccinated, we don't know what vaccination they got, was it the pfizer vaccination, was it the moderna vaccination that they got, we thought they were protected but they got covid anyway and now we are worried about the delta variant. you see that the white house and nancy pelosi wants masks indoors for vaccinated people, what can you tell us? doctor: well, it's the attitude that has fostered the lack of trust in the cdc and in our government. when they think that the people are not smart enough to be able to work with the information so we don't even have to give it to them because they can't process it. that's not america. you know, that's the precursor of some type of dictatorship. we don't want that. the fact of the matter is, the
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vaccines are very effective and i think if you would give that information and give people the real statistics, yes, there are breakthrough cases but those are generally very mild and the ones who have died which are very, very few, by the way, chances of dying if you have been vaccinated are about the same as being struck by lighting and we don't change everything we do for lighting strikes, people get killed by lighting but we don't say you have to stay in a house now whenever it rains. give me a break. but it is natural for viruses to mutate. so having variants is a natural thing. this variant, the delta variant is very contagious but not very virilant. it's not very powerful like the initial class of coronavirus that we dealt with. so we need to take that into account when we are dealing with
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real science. we also need to recognize that, you know, your likelihood of getting it is very, very small if you've been vaccinated or if you've had the disease. now, our cdc and the present administration won't even acknowledge natural immunity which is every bit as effective as getting the vaccination and between the two about 85% of our population has immunity. so we need to be dealing with that and working with that and giving people the actual numbers and letting them make decisions. mandates, that's not what america is about. it never should be what america is about. america came into existence because people wanted to escape from governments who mandated things, who tried to tell them how their lives should be little from cradle to grave.
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we cannot allow it. this is the beginning edge of it and we cannot allow it. maria: yet, dr. carson, you have president biden out every day blaming the unvaccinated. he says we are in a pandemic of the unvaccinated and we've got new mandates coming. nancy pelosi says that anyone without a mask on in the capitol will be arrested. your thoughts on -- on the bigger picture here and how this is affecting people's freedom and liberty? doctor: well, that's the very important. you know, when we have people using this as an excuse, and that's what it is because, again, the vaccinations are very effective and a lot of people have already gotten immunity. so and very few people are dying. it really is a -- a matter of how you present it, you know, if you had two people who died and now you have four people who died and you say, you know, there's been 100% increase.
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this thing is just raging or you could actually give the statistics which would show that we really are much better off than we were a year ago. but you can use that to frighten people and to control people and that's what we got to be careful about. yes, we have made tremendous progress. there's no question about it and kudos go to our scientific community for coming up with effective vaccines, but we also have to give people the real information and let them make decisions and not mandate things. maria: well, how much of this is political, really, in the background, politics, you know, we've seen the politicization of the fbi, the weaponization of the doj, we are seeing the cdc also get questioned, questions about crt, critical race theory in the military. broadly speaking, what do you see happening and what about the credibility of the cdc at this point? doctor: well, you know, i hate
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to see see the cdc's credibility being questioned. i've known over the years a lot of people there, really good people but what we've seen recently is the injection of politics into medicine and into science and that has destroyed it tremendously, that trust. you know, it's going to be a long time before that comes back, but in terms of your other question, critical race theory, how that's infiltrating all of our institutions, i think that's disastrous also because what it basically says is that the primary determinant of what happens in life is your race. it's something that you have no control over and that was dr. king's very point when he said, i long for a time when people are judged by the content of their character which is something that you can control versus the color of your skinning which something that you can't control. you really want to talk about fairness,
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let's talk about things that can be controlled not things that you can't control. it makes absolutely no sense and then, you know, the whole concept of systematic racism, you know, if we are systemically racist, please tell me why nigerians, people come into the country and do well and yet they are black. they can't explain it. there's a whole lot of stuff they can't explain because it's propaganda and we have a wonderful country. we've made tremendous progress. let's move forward and let's not let a lot of people convince us that we are enemies because we have different opinions that makes no sense. jesus said the house divided against itself cannot divide, abraham lincoln echoed it and that's what's going on. maria: you make a great point but this president makes everything a civil rights issue. real quick before you go, i want to tap into your medical
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expertise. you are optimistic about america despite all of these challenges because of the innovation we are seeing in health care, give us a word on that, where are we, look ahead, let's end on what you see the most promise? doctor: well, thank you for asking that question because it's actually incredible the things that have happened in medicine. just looking at one area like cancer which is a devastating thing in our society and we use surgery and chemotherapy but the combination of immuno therapy is having impact on the diseases that we couldn't control because we are working at the molecular level and i think liberty from the system for effectively destroying cancer. galantin3 is a protein and companies like gelatin
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therapeutics to modify that. i've began to society with these companies. it is absolutely fantastic and i think 20 to 30 years from now cancer would not be the scorge that it is right now. maria: not only do we get freedom and liberty from you but also the beauty and innovation that the country is known for. thank you very much for being here, please come back here, dr. we will take a short break. when we come back the chinese communist party crack-down. people jailed and billions lost as the ccp lays down new relations. the head of the bush economic policy larry lindsey coming up.
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maria: welcome back, yet another crack-down from the chinese communist party, widing scoping of regulations from alibaba to didi global and just in the past week, the education technology industry with new rules against foreign investment causing steep losses from my chinese company stocks and u.s. investors. joining me right now larry lindsey, president and ceo of the lindsey group, former director of the national economic council under george w. bush and out with a new novel called currency war. it takes a look at beijing's aspirations to replace the u.s. dollar as the reserve currency of the world with the chinese yuan among other challenges the u.s. faces from the ccp. larry, good morning to you, congratulations on the new book, it is a great read and i am so thrilled to have you here to talk about china and economics as well. i want to start off with your thoughts on what we heard from the ccp the past couple of weeks on the regulatory crack-down,
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what's going on? >> well, look, what xi is all about is control. his predecessors is focused on wealth creation, that's not what he's interested. he wants to assure the dominance of the communist party oh, by the way himself instead of the communist party. for example, on the education crack-down, chinese parents like parents throughout the world want their kids to get ahead. they hire private tutors to do so but if you're the chinese state, you don't want the independent private tutors telling the kids what to think and you want the state schools to do so. and so what they did was they said, you can't do tutoring for profit which really means that large companies can't get involved and you had u.s. and foreign investment in those
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companies which made them almost submersive and it's about control. maria: control and over take the number 1 super power in the world. how real is the threat? >> oh, that's quite real. he stated it, you can go back and take a look at his speeches over the last 3 years. the most recent that i urge people to read is his speech celebrating the 100th founding, the founding of the chinese communist party and what he talks about is, first of all, again the need for the communist party to lead china and secondly, it's revenge for what he calls the deep humiliation china suffered at the hands of the west in the last 150 years.
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so -- maria: as part of that speech, as part of that speech, larry, he said never who challenges the ccp will have their heads smashed to dust. we will take a break and i will ask you about investing in these companies that are tied to xi jinping's plan, back in a moment with larry lindsey. ♪ ♪ ♪
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maria: welcome back, with larry lindsey, president and ceo of the lindsey group. larry, let's talk u.s.-china policy for a moment. there was a movement to push back on investors investing in chinese companies particularly those tied to the chinese military to fund the ccp's expansion. your thoughts? larry: i think it was a quite appropriate and for investors
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should watch their own money and anyone putting their money in china should take a close look at what happened to jack ma, he was disappeared for 3 months, their version of canceled and then since then he's lost half of his fortune, half and that was basically 8 months ago. so that's what's going to happen to your money sooner or later if you invest it in china. maria: why did you write this book, it ends interestingly without a shot fired, but is that the realistic situation that we are watching, the book is currency war, a must-read. larry: well, you always supposed to end book on optimistic note and don't want to end it as a bummer and that was the only way to end it. it is a work of fiction. it bears no resemblance to reality, why don't we call it
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the best outcome, no, i do not expect the actual world to end that easily. china is out to get it and there's all to it. maria: larry, great to see you, thank you, sir. larry lindsey. that will do it for sunday morning futures. we will see you tomorrow bright and early on fox business, mornings with maria. ♪ ♪ . . .
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