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little after 11:00. the next of the infrastructure bill has not yet finished being written and that has to be done before they introduce it. it will be read and then you will have the traditional slew of amendments offered by senators of both sides. we are in for perhaps a lengthy saturday session. c.d.c. director rochelle walensky walking back a mandate and indoor mask use. welcome, i'm alicia acuna. griff: i'm griff jenkins after the confusion over the biden administration. with the latest. >> the biden administration an
urgently trying to get more americans to have a covid-19 vaccine. their questions how the government hopes to accomplish the goal. we have seen a number of companies mandate that their employees go ahead and get the vaccine and last night on special reports, the c.d.c. director was asked whether something like this, if the government was going to follow their lead. >> i want to start there, the are you for mandating on a level? >> i think that the administration is looking into and something we're looking alt the approval from the vaccine. >> and less than an hour after this interview aired. they clarified there would be no national mandate and there will be no federal mandate. what can the federal government do? for one, they're encouraing companies to go get the vac themselves or help their family
get the vaccine and encouraging states to offer up $100 to make sure that people have money to get out there and take care of themselves. and the pentagon is examining when vaccines can be required for armed forces and we, of course, are seeing what's impacting federal workers and contractors, either required to attest that they've had the vaccine or submit to regular testing if they're not vaccinated. the white house is facing some political pushback over the c.d.c.'s latest mask guidance that essentially means millions of americans are going to be required to wear a mask indoors regardless of their vaccination status. the federal government is offering guidelines. it's up to individual cities and states what to do, but the president insists progress is being made. >> we had a good day yesterday, almost a million people got vaccinated. about a half a million of those people for the first time and for the second shot, and so, i'm hopeful that people are beginning to realize how essential it is.
>> reporters asked the president whether or not we're going to see any more covid type restrictions come into place and he says it's possible in the week ahead and still the white house insists they're not looking toward any huge lockdowns like we saw for 2020, but the president leaving the door open more restrictions are possible. as for the president, he's at camp david and will be back at the white house on monday. griff: mark meredith. thank you. alicia. alicia: joining us republican congressman from arkansas, a part of the infrastructure committee rick crawford. congressman, thank you for being here, we appreciate it here on a saturday. you're part of a group of more than 40 house republicans calling on dr. walensky to give the american people more information when it comes to these very confusing mask recommendations. what is it exactly that you're
seeking? >> for one thing, i think we can't base recommendations, for example, from india on results of a test that were injured on monkeys with a vaccine that's not even on the market yet. i don't think we can implement policy based on that data. and so, i think what this sort of points to is trying to find, you know, kind of a way to rationalize a decision to force everybody to mask up indoors whether or not you're vaccinated and that's unfortunate because if we're trying to incentivize or encourage or demonstrate the effectiveness of vaccination, asking people to put masks on after they've been vaccinated pretty much defeats the purpose. >> and just to be clear, that study in india that you're referring to, dr. walensky explained to bret baier that that's one point of data the c.d.c. was looking at with the
mask recommendations as they move forward. it is confusing, isn't it? for so many americans, they get the vaccination and they were told that this would help things and here they are go enbeing told they're going to have to put their masks back on. >> here is an example of where this is confusing, in the house of representatives, for example, we have a high number of members that are vaccinated and speaker pelosi just arbitrarily decided we're going to implement a mask requirement in the house of representatives, but over on the senate side, there's no requirement for masking. i don't know how the virus knows which side it can be, you know, it can infect and which it can't based on masks, so, i mean, it makes no sense at all and that point was made the day before yesterday in a presser by some of my colleagues, but you get the idea it's not based on science. there's certainly a political dynamic, but it's the wrong message to send if we're trying to encourage people to get vaccinated we should be demonstrating that faith in the
vaccine, which is pretty much most of the members have been vaccinated and so, why make this statement now when we're trying to incentivize people and encourage them. alicia: what do you think about schools? we're headed back in a month or so and what to do in los angeles county, for example, they're going to implement masks indoors for kids. >> well, i have school age children and so, this has been a really an issue of-- i've been watching very, very closely and my concern is, the damage that we're doing potentially to a generation of children. you think well, it's only going to affect, it's only a year. and when a child is out for a week, it takes two or three weeks to remediate. imagine if you lost an entire year, how long would it take to make up the lost year. what damage are we doing socially to individuals, forcing them to mask up, miss
school, attend school via zoom or other online platforms? we're doing immeasurable harm to generation of children and i don't think we've been able to quantify what the result might be in years to come. i believe that the covid virus is real. however, i don't know that it's any worse than the common cold and we somehow managed to get through the common cold as we develop over time vaccinations and herd immunity and things of this nature. i'm not down playing the severity of the pandemic, but i also, we have to learn to live with it. jacqui: while i have you here, i do want to move on to infrastructure because they're closer to a deal and details are hammered out. what are your top line concerns at this point? >> well, i think what we're seeing now is one of the worst things i think we could hope for. speaker pelosi is holding hostage, essentially, infrastructure advancement
based on a 3 1/2 trillion dollar reconciliation spending package and so she's not going to yield on that, so that's not a good message to send the american people when we know that most american people want to see infrastructure investment. our infrastructure for the most part is behind the power curve as it applies to where we pair to other industriallized nations and some we might not consider industrialized nations. we need to invest in infrastructure. to hold it hostage over a 3 1/2 trillion dollars unrelated reconciliation package, with money we don't have, don't have a pay for, that does not resonate with the american people. i tell you what does is the fact that iffer woo' going to continue to print money to pay for things, why raise taxes? none of that makes sense and those are the questions that the american people want answered. alicia: i see you've expressed quite a bit of concern exactly how this is going to get paid
for and there's a big chunk of new spending in the bill and let's put up new numbers that we're seeing for some of the new spending, this is different from the baseline spending here if we could put that up to show folks what's available and what's being brought forward, as part of the-- this is the new thing. 550 billion dollars in new spending, and that's going to include, we have a list here to show you. so you have $110 billion, $110 billion for bridges and roads, 75, 73 billion for power infrastructure, 66 billion for passenger and freight rail and on and on. is there anything on here that you think needs to be pulled off? because again, you're concerned about how this is going to get paid for. >> i want to focus on real infrastructure. i want to focus on roads, bridges, highways, ports, inland water ways, airports and even broadband. yes, i want to do all of those things, but we have to understand we have finite
resources and those are provided for by the taxpayers. so we have to demonstrate some good faith and so far that hasn't been done here in washington. and i think people are frustrated, they're tired of it. we're on a course for this administration, to have added $6 trillion potentially, six months into his administration. that's unheard of. and you know, some of the infrastructure that we're talking about now are terms we've never used before. for example, human infrastructure, what does it have to do with what we're trying to accomplish with roads, bridges, airports, water ways and broadband, not just rural broadband, but in underserved areas across the country. those are the things we need to drill down in within the realm of our spending capacity without raising taxes or printing more money or in this case, both. jacqui: congressman rick
crawford, thank you for your saturday. >> thank you. >> griff. griff: we're joined by the congressman, thank you for taking a saturday and another member of the same committee, transportation and infrastructure, just the other side of the aisle. so let me just pick up where congressman crawford left off saying that speaker pelosi could be holding this all hostage as the senate right now as we speak working on the legislation, working on the bill for the $1.2 trillion actual infrastructure deal, but yet, speaker pelosi says that she won't take up anything until both pieces are sent over, passed in the senate, that being the $3 1/2 trillion budget reconciliation. is this, congressman, in trouble? where do things stand as far as you see it in the house caucus? >> good afternoon, good to be
with you. democrats and president biden put a down payment on infrastructure with the american rescue plan sending $350 billion to states and cities for water and covid recovery and we're going to finish with this bipartisan infrastructure bill. there's lots of zigs and zags ahead of us, and, but we'll ensure clean water for the next generation, and high speed internet, and we're going to make the american worker the most productive in the world. griff: congressman, if you will, we have this rare live senate session, you have the senator elizabeth warren talking now on the senate floor. she has come to talk not about infrastructure, but evictions. let's take a listen. >> behind on rental payments. last year congress worked together to account for that staggering reality. we provided more than $45
billion in emergency rental assistance, that money is now finally getting into the hands of landlords around the country. it's helping families who lost jobs get caught up on their missed payments. but the money is getting out too slowly. some states and local governments opened their assistance programs only last month. some haven't spent a single dollar by the beginning of june. now that's starting to change. in june states delivered more than $1 1/2 billion in emergency rental assistance. that money went to help nearly 300,000 households. but there are still billions of dollars to distribute and millions of families in need. we have the tools and we have the funding. what we need is the time. look, i agree that the eviction
moratorium is not a long-term solution, but let me be very clear, it is the right short-term action. it's how we keep families safely in their homes while states deliver emergency aid. it's how we keep families, who are starting to recover, from the worst economic crisis of their lifetimes, get back on their feet. millions of jobs lost. griff: elizabeth warren talking about the expiration today of the federal ban on evictions because of the pandemic. congressman, i'm going to bring you back in, your thoughts on really, where we are in respect to both those evictions and the larger picture you have in your state, an outbreak of this dealt at that variant spike. >> as the senator said, congress has approved tens of billions in tenant and landlord relief. i'm already in contact with
state and local officials to make sure we can disburse those funds fairly to prevent unjust evictions. i think it's important to ground ourselves why are we in this situation? the first wave of covid was a surprise, the second wave was seasonal, the third was geographic, this fourth wave, this is a choice, this is a chase that republicans are making. they're suing speaker pelosi over mask mandates and science. instead of directly to their constituents, this vaccine is safe and effective. get a vaccine to protect yourself and the ones that you love. griff: congressman, we've seen many-- most of the notable republican leaders like steve scalise and others saying vaccines work, i got a vaccine, get a vaccine. but you have this fight going on, a line drawn in the sand over house republicans over wearing masks, saying that speaker pelosi is engaging in
what appears to be a power grab. in fact, just in the last show on cavuto live, charles payne was talking to congresswoman nancy mace and she had a video where she basically said come and mike make me do it. i'm not going to put the mask on. what do you say to republicans that are drawing the line in the sand? >> speaker pelosi, leader schumer are listening to medical professionals and public health experts. we are in this situation, we are faced with a series of frustrating options because we are not doing what we know works and taking the very best option, which is to prevent outbreaks in the first place. i heard your previous guest, he was trying to undermine the c.d.c.'s public health guidance, claiming speaker pelosi for mask mandates. i didn't hear him tell your viewers that the vaccine is safe and the effective way we can get to the other side of the pandemic. i'm frustrated with mask
mandates, i don't want to wear masks anymore and i don't want to go back into lockdown. i don't want my kids to be expose today delta. we know what works, it's the vaccine. griff: and you've mentioned something that is on a lot of americans' minds, the lockdowns. and secretary jean pierre not ruling out that lockdowns could come down because they'll listen to the white house and listen to the c.d.c. are you concerned that we could be facing another lockdown. >> elected officials top priority needs to be the health and safety of the american people. we have to leave every option on the table when we're faced with a fourth wave of-- potentially even more infectious and more fatal variants of this virus. nobody wants lockdowns, everybody agrees that lockdowns is the worst and last option. the very first and best option is a vaccine to prevent these outbreaks in the first place,
that needs to be the focus. let's have another good day like we had yesterday, another million shots in arms. griff: congressman jake auchincloss from massachusetts. we'll have you back and as the infrastructure bill. >> thank you. griff: and dana perino is sitting in on fox news under is. a live interview with the director of the national economic county. and also tomorrow in an exclusive interview our own howie kurtz speaks with conservative radio host ben shapiro. check your local listings for time and channel. alicia. alicia: mounting concerns over migrants testing positive when they cross the border and then being released into communities all over the u.s. next. voiceover: riders. wanderers on the road of life. the journey is why they ride. when the road is all you need, there is no destination.
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latest. hi, griff. at this spot you see especially in the evening, border agents tell us in this spot alone, groups of 4 to 500 crossing at one time and that's when we really get busy in the morning, and late in the evening and throughout the rio grande valley, officials say they'll encounter ooh even more. and then there's the covid issue, border agents give migrants masks and then take them if they have local symptoms and the federal government is looking at releasing covid migrants into the united states. and because of that texas
authorized the state police to stop vehicles carrying migrants and now the department of justice is suing texas saying it's interfering in federal operations. and no state may obstruct the federal government in discharge of its abilities. and directly interferes with the administration of federal immigration law. texas governor greg abbott has responded on this, and he has written attorney general merrick garland, quote, under long established emergency response laws used by texas in partnership with the federal government, i have the authority to control the movement of people to contain the spread of a disaster. we're now seeing a federal-state fight now that one rediktable a couple of days ago that will go through the court system. >> awe mentioned in the rgv
sector and we often repeat internal numbers, 2,851 apprehensions, but what is most concerning and it seems it should be to our viewers, is the rising number of covid cases in that area. you did fantastic work this week reporting on an outbreak at a local hotel, the texas inn there in la joya, because a customer at whataburger, and they told me, rich, two days after that, they get a 911 call at 2:44 in the morning, a mother, her daughter doesn't breathe, a high fever and had to be taken to the hospital. how bad is it? >> well, that hospital or that hotel specifically, that's rented out by catholic charities. what happens the migrants into the united states largely families and given notice to appear and to show up at immigration court 60 days from now or whatever the date it and
they're allowed to be into the country and paroled into the country. and the catholics charities rented out the hotel for migrants and they can leave whenever they want and they say that's their challenge, they're stepping up patrols of the area to remind people and migrants stay in the hotel don't come out. they're allowed to leave, they can leave the hotel, go to the burger joint or get on a bus and go to another city. that's the challenge that they have once migrants are patrolled into the united states and have covid-19. griff: well, all a part of the frustrations at the border. in the center of it, the epicenter, rich edison at la joya, texas. alicia: thanks, griff. and carnival cruise lines, will passenger keep coming as covid
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>> well, carnival cruise line takes to the seas with the biggest ship ever, the mardi gras from port canaveral, florida. today the ship will include a rollercoaster and passengers will be required to show proof of vaccination. in port canaveral, we go to charles watson. hey, charles. >> hey, griff. carnival is getting prepared to set sail on the mardi gras behind me. it's carnival's largest ship ever and the first to leave from port canaveral with paying customers in nearly a year and a half. and i have to tell you this is a massive ship. take a look at it. it weighs more than 180,000 gross tons.
it has 18 decks. it can fit up to 6,500 guests at full capacity. if you look up at the top tech, you can see there's even a rollercoaster aboard this thing. the first rollercoaster at sea. by the way. yesterday we got a look inside and the mardi gras lives up to its name, food, drinks, entertainment. beed 4,000 passengers who are boarding today can enjoy any of that they'll have to pass covid screenings. meaning folks will have to answer questions about symptoms and show either a negative test or proof of vaccination before they can cruise out to sea. >> we have to know, are you vaccinated or not? because there are different protocols and procedures for people who are vaccinated than from people that are on the ship that are not vaccinated. >> and cruise industry
dependent ports like port canaveral which hasn't seen a ship depart here since march of 2020, are looking to keep the industry above water. but after a year on the sidelines, the virus is a formidable opponent to the industry. on friday, royal caribbean announced extended covid testing procedures after some tested positive for the virus. and all passengers departing for five nights or longer will need to show a negative covid test before they board and griff, i have to tell you there are a lot of folks who seem to be excited about boarding the mardi gras behind me. we've seen folks trickling in here since the morning time for departure that doesn't happen until 6:00 this evening, griff. griff: and rightfully they are excited. i would be excited to get on a cruise ship to ride a rollercoaster. that shape is amazing and we wish everyone aboard a safe bon
voyage. charles, thank you. alicia. ♪♪ >> new mask mandates in california as the delta variant cases are on the rise in the state. this as the school year is set to start in less than a month. joining me now is the unified school district superintendent, and thank you for being here on this saturday. before we begin, i want to take a listen to something that the governor of california had to say recently because health officials have said in california that the delta variant is responsible for 80% of the new cases, and this is what the governor had to say. >> our projections are sobering, our projections over the next number of weeks will show increase in hospitalizations if we continue down this path. with that in mind, how is your district preparing for the
incoming school year? >> sure, great to be here. we're battle tested. we've been through this. last year our student, staff, parents took it very seriously. we had zero transmission all school year last year. we were the first district in l.a. county to reopen so we had our students back in october. so we are serious about it, we know what we do impacts each other and we want to be there for each other. we'll follow the if you believe health guidelines and follow them closely and the mask mandate will be in place for all of our staff and students and reduced visitation. otherwise, i think the school year is going to be very much more normal. we'll have full classes, full day, in-person instruction. we're very excited to have our kids back on campus soon. alicia: you have said that you didn't think that social distancing was logistically possible inside of a school. do you need to implement that? where does that stand?
>> no, i think that it was if we go to masking we don't need to do the distancing. and in person, distancing was difficult to do only half the students. that was an obstacle to normalcy last year. so we're excited that those requirements are not in place. our students know what is going on. we've been through this almost a year and a half now. i'm confident that we've got this. >> as you know, not everyone is on board with students wearing masks while they're in school, in fact, there is a parent-led organization out of san diego that's suing the state of california in an interview, the founder of let them breathe told the l.a. times, quote, we're seeing kids be more anxious, more depressed, have difficulty engaging in their education when they're unable to see each other's faces and share smiles and just getting back to life with some type of normalcy.
the bottom line, the government should not be doing parents' jobs. we know what is best for our children. i imagine you'll get pushback from parents in your district as well. we've seen it around the country. what are you going to do. >> i have two students in high school, i get it, it's not optimal, but the delta virus is surging and we want the good science and we want to keep our staff safe, our student safe and my daughter and i were in the vaccine trials and our 11-year-old, younger is not vaccinated. it's a small price to pay to be back in person fully. alicia: what do you say about parents who are concerned about the mental health of their children and if the parents are comfortable with the children being in the school without a mask and they feel it's doing them some harm, what do you say to those parents?
>> sure, it's very legitimate. i mean, we worry about the isolation our students have experienced. you know, i have a 16, 17-year-old who wants to spend a year in their room away from their classmates, away from campus. so it's legitimate. we've more than doubled our counseling services and we have full-time counselors. the social-emotional piece is critical. we need to pay attention to it. i would say the benefits of being in there fully with your teachers and classmates, we're excited to have everyone back. alicia: the teachers union and the parent don't always agree. >> correct. we have a great relationship with our association. our association signed off on your return class year and that was an initial requirement for l.a. county which is very unusual, but the association weighed in and we met with them
and negotiated and we have the same interest. we want to keep our staff and students staff. when you approach interest a mutual interest and values, the relationship can be strong through challenging times. alicia: how much of a voice do you think that parents should have not just in places like los angeles county. big cities have a much different problem than in places that are much smaller, and folks in smaller towns watching this right now wondering why would they have to follow the same types of rules under the c.d.c. guidelines that you would in a large city? >> for us, we're right on the ventura and l.a. county border and they can have two different rules and that can be confusing. our district is in both counties and we have parents from ventura and l.a. it can be confusing. they should reach out to the supervisors, reach out to county and state public health and share their perspective on what's going on, their voice absolutely matters and we listen closely to it.
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>> new york beachgoers are on high alert after a series of shark sightings. the shark scare prompted them to patrol lito beach in long island. hi, laura. >> hey, griff. just like clock work for the same time period last year, shark sightings are on for the last week of july. as you can see, it's a busy and beautiful day and despite the fact there have been multiple sightings and had closed, beachgoers are not afraid to go into the water. they've fired up the shark units skimming for fins or underwater activity to get the swimmers ashore. >> we'll look for jet skis, and
look for any feed fish, birds in the association that would support a shark and people from shore will tell us they see something out there. >> and this last monday, a lifeguard at jones beach on long island felt something hit him under the water and when he came out of the surf he felt gash on his calf and he got a taste of what lies underneath. check it out after wrestling with the big fish and hook out of its mouth they were able to get him back in the water and back here live, as you can see, these lifeguards standing by, standing watch and most shark experts say look, there's no need to panic right now, that these shark sightings are pretty normal that the shark population had gone up due to over fishing over the years and that's back on track.
if you go out for the water, watch out for the seagulls, looking for the bait fish, that's where you don't want to swim if you go in. griff: that's right, i was go to talk about it. who did you bribe to get that assignment in a gorgeous day in lido beach, i want that job. >> yeah, we all take turns, today it was my turn, i'm lucky for that. griff: great job, stay safe out there. if you see a shark, laura engle at lido beach. they've always been there. as a surfer i've had my close encounter. i posted this three weeks ago on instagram, a trip that my family and i were in the water. and a spinner shark jumped next to you? and less than a foot from my board, a spinner shark jumped out of the water next to me
because they're chasing the bait fish. here is a shot my daughter madeline took, a video of me surfing. every single day that i surfed in south carolina three weeks ago, my daughters and i saw a shark of some sort. they're out there. you have to respect them and alicia, would you go surfing with me even if we see a shark? >> no, oh, no. and you're surfing, so your daughter is out there. so she's seeing them, too. your kids are out there and worrisome as well? >> well, they've grown up surfing and accustomed to respecting sharks and the reality is, of course when we saw one that came underneath my board about three and a half feet long, four feet long we decided we should get out of the water obviously for safety reasons, but the reality is, shark experts say that they tell us, they've always been there, but now with underwater cameras, go pros, drones, people are more aware of them and they're seeing them more and more often, and certainly,
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parts of our life, in this case, you see a very high paid-- the highest paid female star saying she got cheated, but on the other hand, disney saying, how quote callus of you, getting personal, in knocking down the suit. what do you make of it? >> we're in an interesting time now and one of the big questions and the answer is out there and i may be missing it, tweet me if you know the answer, when scarlett johansson signed this contract when emily blunt signed the contract-- when the contracts, it takes forever for a movie to get paid and they sign the contract, done, shot, moves on, and ends up in the theater or streaming. if she signed it prior to the pandemic would this be a deal considered pre-pandemic, if this goes to court, would a judge look upon that portion of all of this, if the world has literally changed, if it's a completely different world than it was when she signed this
contract? that's certainly going to be the devil in the details because in her contract she had, quote, wide distribution in the theaters. now, of course, releasing it to a streaming service is not a theater and if you look at numbers, it was like 80 million in the first weekend, black widow 80 million in the domestic box office, but 60 million from the $30 at home purchases on disney plus, so, maybe she's saying, hey, you owe me some money. alicia: right, exactly. and the accusation here by scarlett johansson and other actors as well that disney in particular is hard to deal with. we'll watch this. griff: stick around, we have another hour. the burning sun is not stopping migrants from crossing the southern border. we'll go there live next. it's the number one doctor recommended brand that's scientifically designed to help manage your blood sugar. live every moment. glucerna.
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good to see you griff. officials in the rio grande valley are overwhelmed by the surge of migrants and spike in covid cases coming across the border, rich edison live in la joya, texas with more, hi, rich. >> good afternoon, alicia, 2 or 3,000 migrants a day crossing in the rio grande valley sector and those who are at least apprehended. sometimes it gets to be more than that. border patrol agents tell us that they're putting masks on immediately and making sure that the migrants have masks and that's the way that they are trying to prevent covid here. also customs and border protection officials say if migrants are displaying covid symptoms, they will take them to local healthcare providers and though local police say the federal government is still releasing positive covid migrants into the community. border patrol agents are dealing with now with two surges, migrants and a pandemic. >> not everyone we encounter we test, only those exhibiting some type of symptoms, and not
everybody has sin soms that have it and we are leasing people day in and day out with actual positive tests for covid and more just keep popping up. >> citing covid concerns, governor abbott authorized troopers with migrants, the justice department is suing texas to rescind the order a boot says, quote, the biden administration has created a constitutional crisis between the froth and the state of texas. this stems from the biden administration's refusal to enforce immigration laws and allow illegal immigrants with covid-19 to enter our country. as for the governor's executive order, that's something that's going to be up to the court system now that there's been a suit file bid the justice department in texas. they are going to have to handle this one in the courts. alicia. alicia: rich, the local communities are in a vulnerable situation there, aren't there, because you discussed with griff in the last hour that when there are folks that are covid
positive or have the appearance of being -- of symptoms that they are still out there wandering around in the community? reporter: yeah, they can be. and what happens is the border patrol and customs and border protection will often work with local charities. here it's catholic charities. they have a hotel that they rented out exclusively for migrants who have covid but there's nothing that requires them to stay there. once their paroled into the united states, they may have a notice to appear before an immigration judge. they may have to register with the local ice office by they can leave the hotel, get on a bus and what local communities are doing and police here, they are just driving by the areas where they know there are covid-19 migrants and they're saying to them, look, if you can just stay in the hotel, please make sure, you know, you're not out in the community and you're not eating in restaurants and not mingling out here and you're taking care of yourself and your not spreading this thing. alicia: well, that's got to be so hard. rich edison at the border, thank you so much.
griff. griff: alicia for more on the crisis at the border we are joined by national patrol council art delcueto. great to see you. you heard rich edison reporting from rgv which you know all too well. 900% increase in covid cases among migrants detainees, they are getting slammed. i got the latest numbers, 2,051. what is happening in arizona where you're primarily based, is there a fear of covid cases, are you getting overwhelmed? >> well, definitely it's happening across the country and just to touch on rgv, griff, this is where the issue is. i'm hearing they have 10,000 bodies right now in the detention facility. 8,000 of those have still have not been processed and what happens there is you start removing agents from the line so they can take care of some of that processing. don't be surprised, we have seen it before, don't be surprised if they start shipping and putting individuals on planes and transferring them over to other sectors so they can get processed there and in turn get
released in the other states. you know, that's always been the threat. we've always heard the rumors of that. griff: yeah. >> we have seen it before and it's going to get difficult. griff: so, art, that's extremely important and the numbers i saw in the last 24 hours which yourself you referenced and i am privy to, they want the information out. 9,901 deportable detainees in custody right now. explain why that is a risk to the nation? >> well, obviously you have so many of the individuals in one facility, you have agents that are there that are getting exposed and a you heard earlier, we don't know who has covid and if they're not showing symptoms, there's nothing to test. these individuals are getting released, you know, in the rest of the communities. and, you know, when i hear people say, you know, they are being told stay in their home, don't go out, don't do this, well, you know, they should have listened not to come to a
country illegally as well. griff: art, the cdc director rochelle walenksy. i want you to listen to her and get her reaction. >> the percentages in the southern part of the country are really quite high and i don't necessarily think we can attribute to what's going on at the southern border. griff: your thoughts and a question, do you feel like the administration is paying enough attention, putting enough emphasis on this issue? or the administration, griff, let's be honest. they are not paying attention to what's happening in the southern border. they came down here and checked the specific box and as far as we are concerned, they came and went and no one is paying attention within this administration. everything that is happening and it's a domino effect when it comes to agents getting pulled by the field and when it comes to the processing centers being
overcapacity and at the same time the drug smugglers taking advantage of that, all of that falls under the current administration and their lack of enforcement and lack of caring for what's happening to our country. griff: more than 7800 migrants apprehended this year and we have a ways to go until october. in fact, i just saw and retweeted in the last 24 hours, in nogales there was a convicted sex offender apprehended. speak, if you will, on the threat being across the border of the criminal migrants? >> well, we don't -- the problem is we can't really tell you because nobody really knows because of the agents that are getting pull today process and being in the processing centers, obviously you have the threat of the got aways that we have spoken about many times. you don't know who these people are. you know, border patrol has apprehended people from over 150 different countries.
we don't know their intentions and the actual number of those that have come in and have not been apprehended is truly unknown. it's probably greater than what it is that they report and if breaking records is what this administration is wanting to do, they've done so in a very negative way that's going to harm our country. not just now but in future generations. griff: i'm not going to pin you down to a specific number but if you had to sort of roughliest mate. what percentage of your agents are on the actual line as they call it trying to stop the surge of the border and what percentage are having to process and transform migrants? >> it varies. it truly varies on when you have a big surge. sometimes you get groups of 300 plus that turn themselves in and they have to move agents from one area to the other. so it just varies on a day-to-day basis. griff: art, i want to ask you because we've worked together several times in over many years and i've been covering this for more than a decade. how long have been in border
patrol and have you ever seen anything like this? >> look. i grew up on the border, i was born down here and raised here. i've been here my entire life and now, you know, obviously i work on the border, so i've been here my entire existence and i can tell you that i've never seen it this bad. i was recently talking to some higher managers and they specifically said that everything that has been done and accomplished in the last 40 years, okay, in the last 40 years is completely being destroyed in the last six months. griff: and what is for the future? >> it's going to be horrific honestly and people need to start paying attention. and as you mentioned, you have come down and you have worked with us and have seen different parts of the border and you can honestly say now you've been doing here and seen what's going on at the border a lot more of the individuals that are running the administration. griff: unbelievable. do you think that even this late despite the politics surrounding it it would benefit vice president harris or president
biden to come down and see it firsthand? >> at this point, i don't think it's about coming down here and seeing it firsthand. they know what's going on. they just need to start enforcing laws and start caring about the american public a little more. griff: art del cuento. national border patrol, stay safe and thank you for taking time on saturday. >> thank you. griff: alicia. alicia: cdc director rochelle walensky clarifying comments she made on fox news saying there will not be a federal vaccine mandate nationwide after she told bret baier the option was being looked into. mark meredith is live at the white house with the latest, hi, mark. mark: alicia, good afternoon, earlier this month president biden said the u.s. was very close to declaring its independence from the virus but this week it really feels like a different story with the white house saying because of variants of the virus still spreading, more changes were going to be needed. we have already seen the new
mask policies come out which means that millions of americans who are already fully vaccinated will still have to put on masks back on regardless of their vaccination status. now, these are only guidelines from the federal government. it's going to be up to individual cities and states to decide how to handle matters but the white house says it can do it part to increase vaccinations by reimbursing employers to give people time off to get the shot and encouraging states to pay people up to $100 to go get a vaccine, the pentagon is looking to examine when vaccines can be required for u.s. armed forces and federal workers as well as contract workers will be required to a test if they have gotten a vaccine and if they haven't, they will have to wear mask and tested on a regular basis. you heard last night colleague bret baier ask the cdc director whether or not the federal government was looking to mandate mask -- i'm sorry, vaccine shots for people nationwide. here is what she said to say last night. >> are you for mandating a
vaccine on a federal level? >> you know, that's something that i think the administration is looking into. it's something that we are looking to see approval of from the vaccine. mark: shortly after the interview the cdc director said to clarify, there will be in nationwide mandate. i was referring to private institutions, there will be no federal mandate but president biden said it's possible more covid restrictions are coming but he did not indicate what those may be. early on friday, though, the administration made it clear 2020 style lockdowns are not part of their plan. >> and we -- we are not -- we are not going to head towards a lockdown. we want to make sure that we are doing everything that we can because after passing the historic rescue plan, we have the resources to make sure that doesn't happen. mark: the president insists that he believes schools can safely reopen this fall but we heard from the head of the american
federation of teachers union that told msnbc earlier this week that members will try to get schools to reopen but questions of that will mean head into heading go august. alicia. alicia: thanks, mark. griff: alicia, washington, d.c. reinstated indoor mask mandates as the cases are on the rise. of course, the capitol must have its say and our own chad is looking into how members of congress are reacting, chad. chad: there's confusion about masks across america, so it's no surprise there's also consternation about where you have to mask up on capitol hill. >> vaccines are masks. the vaccines work or they don't work or they don't. the masks work or they don't work. i like to know which it is. >> masks aren't required in the smaller 100 member senate but masks are across the capitol
rotunda in the larger 435 member house. there's one doctor from both the house and senate. capitol attending physician dr. brian has given different mask mandates for each chamber. republicans tour into monohan about retirement split. >> you get somewhere in rotunda, you don't have to wear it anymore. somehow the science is different. >> democrats defended monohan. >> you're denigrating the attending physician? has it gotten this bad here? >> a minority leader mockses and mockses the top doctor. >> that's beneath a minority leader. >> house speaker called mccarthy a moron. >> it's not based on science, i think is not wise. >> a memo from new capitol police chief tom major said his officers could arrest visitors and congress aide aisles if they
didn't dawn masks. >> it's up to my officers to make sure people are complying with the mandate and give folks a choice. you can either put the mask on or -- or you can leave. >> mask confusion is laced with politics. pelosi is following monohan's guidelines. >> madame speaker, you are not god and to threaten arrest on others for their own personal medical decisions are nothing short than apartheid. >> the constitution says the house and senate can make their own rules. griff. alicia: crime is spiking in major cities across the united states even la's mayor is not immune. our political panel weighses in next.
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more, hi, christina. christina: the mayor commented yesterday and he said we have to stay focused on saving lives. the vandalism happened thursday night. graffiti can be seen on the walls and side walls at the mayor's residence in addition to lots of trash. you can see lapd there. they were investigating, they are still investigating this incident. no arrests have been made. despite the city's raging homelessness crisis, these protestors strongly oppose the city's new ordinance that prohibits sleeping sitting or storing items on public property, near parks, libraries, schools and other facilities. people who violate the new rules would receive a citation, la city council approved ordinance with 13 to 2 vote. >> it will be some relief to areas that, i think, have great concerns like parks and schools and entrances around businesses and locations around current
homeless housing solutions that we've already put in our areas. christina: critics say there's not enough shelter for mounting homeless crisis. where would the people go? that's what they ask. it would be tough for those who violate the world to pay for a citation. >> but to criminalize the homeless population is a serious problem. we are not criminalizing anyone for being homeless. we are actually helping people get connect today services and actually making our streets safe and clean and passable. what's so hard to ask here? christina: 17 outreach teams will offer shelter and services to homeless before enforcement on the new law takes place and goes into effect in 30 days, griff. griff: christina coleman live for us in los angeles, christina, thank you. alicia: fox news contributor and former wisconsin congressman sean duffy and atlanta talk show
radio host robert, gentlemen, thank you very much for joining us on this saturday. let's begin with crime. we will put up numbers on the spike in crime across the country right now. we've got the number of people incarcerated in the u.s., it's dropped by 16% since 2019. at least 25 major cities have reduced or will reduce police budget funds and killings in albuquerque austin and pittsburgh have doubled in 2021. and robert, i will begin with you because there are differences in opinion obviously on where this problem is coming from, but do you believe the larger-city mayors are starting to regret their positions on police force that they've had over the past year and a half? >> no, i don't. i think many reforms have been necessary for decades. for long period of time the united states was the most incarcerated nation across the western world and i'm glad we are coming out of it and we have to work with police departments to have better and smatter policing.
what we saw in the wake of the freedom summer of 2020 is police department having mass exodus. city of baltimore, 600 officers down. same into true in atlanta, chicago and we need police brought into the system of criminal justice reform and making sure that we have better smarter policing getting rid of the bad apples in the bunch. alicia: just to follow up on that, if -- if it's just that and it's just a matter of reform, what about police officers who say they are just concerned about going out on to the job because they might get fired and end up in jail for something that they really didn't do wrong that they were just doing their job? >> well, i think we have to make sure that we have to policies in place to protect good officers and prosecute the bad. we had an incident in atlanta restrained woman ticked in the head. we want those officers gone. we want to defund those officers to make sure good police are given accolades and protected
and giving resource they have to do their jobs. we simply want better policing not no policing. >> we want good police on the forcing, we want smart policing. that wasn't the message from democrats. defund the police. they never said defund bad police officers. let's get rid of budgets for police officers and redirect this to social workers. and in the cities that have done that with liberal mayors, you have seen a spike in crime because we don't have good cops in the beat anymore and good cops because they are being prosecuted by mayors and city councils. they retired. so now the criminals roam free and we have kids being shot in the head. you know, high school kids aren't coming home because they've been murdered and crime is rampant. so the results of the policies on what democrats have done which is not what you said, robert, something else, taking money from the police is we have violent communities and what frustrates me, the violence has been profound in poorer
communities and when you get people shot in upscale areas of dc, then all of a sudden the liberals pay attention to crime when it comes to their neighborhood but they haven't done a darn the last year as poor kids have been living with crimes in the neighborhoods. alicia: robert, i want to give you a chance. >> i'm not going to disagree with the last part. well, then you're not going to have a positive outcome from that. you can balance for better policing, more investments in social services and other drug treatment issues that will get -- get people to the proper help and not simply the hard actions of policing. alicia: okay. i want to move on -- sean, go ahead, quickly. >> i agree with robert but i was a prosecutor for ten years and i see law enforcement deal with mental health issues and they
become incredibly violent and you need to use resources to subdue them so they don't hurt other people. i think cops doing a great job in space of mental health. alicia: let's move onto critical race theory, we are entering the season of going back to school and we have seen in the past year, past six months really a lot of school board meetings and arguments over critical race theory and some of the pushback we have seen. i want to play a little bit. here is how it's been going. >> now they have a new boogie man to lash onto. critical race theory. >> this is what people are trying to use in order to spread strife. >> critical race theory to be a fog warning. there are no more dog whistles. this is about the woke left making white man pay for things. >> culture warriors are labeling any discussion of race, racism
or discrimination as crt to try to make it toxic. alicia: sean, i will give with you on this one. this is going to ramp up quite a bit in the next month or so. >> yeah, you hear the left saying that the right is hyperventilating about critical race theory or lying about critical race theory but the truth is a lot of the parents that are angry, are, yes, conservatives but also a lot of independents and democrats because you want to mask my kids, you want to shut my schools down, you're not teaching math and science and reading and writing and we are falling behind the world but you want to teach critical race theory and kids to be little racists and activists. if you're a child child that you're a white supremacist or oppressor or if you're a white child or hispanic child like mine, you are oppressed. parents are sick of it and it's penetrating in homes across america and you will see -- when you affect people's families like this you see them
politically affected and the outcome will be severe in the 2022 elections. >> i had the honor this week of marching with reverend jesse jackson, beto o'rourke, community activists in austin, texas in issue of voting rights and states are trying to suppress the right to vote for millions of americans. they are taking the constitution power away from the secretary of state in georgia allowing people to your honor turn elections in texas. guess what, republicans instead of addressing the right to vote they want to turn critical race theory and not understanding or having any impetus of what it is. similar work on critical race theory says that race is a social construct. all of the things that sean just said are not involving critical race theory at all in slightest way and, indeed, critical race theory, ph.d and graduate law school level. red herring they use so they don't have to address voting rights and they don't have to address vaccines, they don't
have to address the economic rebound that we are going through. it's a way to distract and divide people along racial lines and we have seen the same-old played many times. alicia: sean, parents across the country showing up in meetings because kids are coming home and hearing things that they are uncomfortable. not just graduate school level. >> middle schools, grade schools and high schools because the teacher unions are coming out trying to defend saying we want to teach critical race theory. it's not just colleges and law schools. it's happening at the very earliest ages for our kids. i think when parents start to see what -- what their kids have learned over zoom classes over the pandemic, they have been outraged and shocked by the kind of content these kids were taught and by the way, robert, voting rights, we want everyone who is lawfully able to vote to vote. when we don't want voter id for someone to cast a vote, over 70% of african-americans believe in
voter id and how we vote in america makes sense. we don't want people to cheat in voting and that's what we are trying to establish and democrats trying to go back the loose systems to allow for cheating and when you allow cheating, they don't believe in results. if one side loses, you want them to be confident that they lost and they go back home and they work the next election to win, but you don't want people to have a lack of confidence and voter rules in place allow for that confidence in elections. alicia: robert, i want to give you a few seconds to respond because i'm running out of time. go ahead. >> one, the voter suppression bills are not voter id bills, it's about stripping the constitutional power away from judges and critical race theory, i would love to see conservatives show me a curriculum, show me a syllabus or book that backs up anything that they are saying is all fantasy. >> show me some -- >> alicia: i know, we toweled
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griff: covid-19 delta variant quickly becoming the latest concern for the cdc and biden administration with officials releasing mixed messaging on masking back up. for the latest on delta hot spots we will turn to infectious disease's physician patel. doctor patel, thank you for time on saturday. it was quite a week of covid news with this delta variant. what can you tell us? doctor: yeah, you know, things have changed.
i would say we are thinking about the pandemic in a very different way this week than we were just a few weeks ago. we are finding out a lot more about the delta variant and how transmissible it is and how it can infect people a little bit more than what we thought and so i think things are shifting in how people are getting messaging across and how people are thinking about getting vaccinated and masking. griff: and dr. patel, there are reports that the delta variant is as contagious as chickenpox and that vaccinated people can transmit it just as easily as unvaccinated people. what do you say? doctor: so those are two good questions that i know these -- both have been in the news a lot. so one thing that we've learned recently is the way that we are thinking about how easily the delta variant of covid can be transmitted is almost as similarly as infectious as chickenpox. you think about
that, if you had chickenpox as as a said new how worrisome that is and that's part of the reason why alarming bells are ringing. remind me again of your second question. griff: the other question is we heard about viral loads in some of the cdc science but the takeaway is that vaccinated americans could just as easily transmit the disease as unvaccinated americans? doctor: on that point we are still figuring out the science and came out recent report from commonstown, massachusetts where there was a big outbreak of cases and many that many folks were vaccinated. we are still trying to understand how easily vaccinated versus unvaccinated but i would say given all of the evidence we have over the last year it does seem that it's much easier to transmit virus if you are
unvaccinated versus vaccinated. that's putting all of the information that we have together, now the fact that it's possible that it could happen, that is what led to this new guidance from the cdc, but we don't have definitive evidence on that yet as a scientific community. griff: and if we apply all of this to sort of practical real-world event as we teased coming out of the last segment, the lollapalooza concert, largest music festival i think in the country, thousands of people started off, it's a four-day concert, they have two more days left here. they are requiring to go to that -- you can see the photos of just the thousands of people right next to each other in these close corridors. they are requiring people show up vaccination to come in and to be masked in indoor areas. are you concerned that an event like this can be a super spreader as they say? doctor: you know, if this event
was happening over a year ago and everyone there was unvaccinated, i would -- my fear factor would be out of control. we know now that the vaccines are doing a very good job and so the fact that this is happening, you know, it is a little worrisome. i really feel for my colleagues in chicago because in many hospitals we are already having a lot of patients coming to the icu, but doing more precautions, getting more of these people vaccinated if you're close contact with other people, even myself just in the last few weeks, i'm starting to thinking about masking up again if i'm going to be in close contact with other people. i would think about those precautions as you go on with your summer events. griff: so let me ask you about the masking, dr. patel, because in may, of course, we were told that if you got the shot, if you were vaccinated, you didn't need the mask and yet you mentioned the hospitalizations, 97% of hospitalizations, 97% more of
the deaths are unvaccinated. can you understand the pushback from vaccinated americans that now have to mask back up? doctor: absolutely. it's been such a long year and a half, people are, you know, tired of everything. the pandemic itself, having to do everything and getting that freedom back. i know it tasted good, but as we learned more about how this virus is changing, that is part of the reason that i think that the cdc decided to be more cautious especially if in your own family you have someone who is maybe your grandmother, grandfather, senior citizen, someone who may have a kidney transplant, children who are still unvaccinated. those are kind of the reasons to think about masking indoors, you are really trying to protect those with less of an immune system. but that's kind of the -- the thought process that's going behind these new regulations. griff: so to that point, let me just ask you, if you were -- we've got 164 million americans
vaccinated, fully vaccinated. we need a lot more. if you spoke directly to someone who has seen the news of the past week thinking about whether or not maybe show should change their mind and go ahead and get the shot, what do you say to them? doctor: so glad that you asked this. if you're on the verge or you've only gotten one shot of the two shot dose. this is the week, it's out there, it's freely available. go do not just for yourself but your family, the one that is you care about so we are not seeing you in the hospital. griff: dr. payal patel, thank you insightful message of it's time to get vaccinated. thank you, doctor. doctor: thank you. alicia: griff, they are taking their anger to the streets. protestors in france take aim at push towards mandatory health passes to -- that you have taken
alicia: protests in paris continue for a third weekend. they're against a newly-required health pass that's needed to enter places such as restaurants, museums and movie theaters. our kitty logan has more on the demonstrations and the regulations requiring proof of vaccination or a recent negative covid test.
hi, kitty. kitty: hi, alicia. yes, this is quite a motive issue and many in paris feel like their liberty is at stake. we did some clashes with police throughout the course of the day. thousands of people marching through the streets of paris as well as elsewhere in france. they are angry, and feels it curtails their freedoms too much. it comes into force august ninth. polls in france indicate that many french people do support the idea of this pass and no access to public places without a vaccination or negative covid test and healthcare workers required to be vaccinated too, all this comes about because cases are rising, over 20,000 a
day. the covid fourth wave. there were 100,000 people have died of the virus since the start of the pandemic and only half of the population is currently vaccinated. and as with many other countries including the u.s., of course, it's the delta variant which is really proving to be very problematic. alicia. alicia: kitty logan in london. griff. griff: move over indiana jones, why the owners of hobby lobby trying to hold onto display by the museum of the bible next only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ alicia: a piece of iraq's culture history is being returned. considered one of the world's original pieces of literature. the owners of hobby lobby purchased 3500-year-old clay tablet intending to display at the museum at the bible here in washington. this week a federal judge ruled t be returned to iraq. and yet, griff, while this sounds like the plot to the next
indiana jones movie, there are concerns because iraq's museums have been attacked repeatedly as you personally know. griff: that's right, i remember when i was in invasion of iraq in 2003, the fall of baghdad over the course of 36 hours or so in april of 2003, iraq's museum got hit. it was absolutely looted and it appears this may be a part of the -- the artifacts that were stolen that are now on the marketplace and people really don't understand quite how big the problem of stolen artifacts like this really is. it's a major problem out there. alicia: right. and with the fall of baghdad back in 2003, we had so many -- so many leave the country under the cover of darkness and this one in particular, this particular tablet was back in 2003, somehow made its way to
london. there was a dealer who bought it with a bunch of other items not knowing that this particular tablet was in there and this person bought these items for $50,000 and then not until they cleaned it off did they realize that they were dealing with such a valuable piece of history and now, of course, hobby lobby is suing christies, the auction house which it purchased it from for what it bought it for $1.6 million. griff: it's going to be quite a fight because hobby lobby saying, we didn't know that we were buying this stolen piece of important history to iraq. one of the things we should point out as well, we see antuquities like this and it's gone forever, and perhaps as prosecutors say some of the artifacts will make their way back to their rightful homes in iraq, this being important piece
of literature but at the same time i'm not sure that you can punish those that didn't know that they were buying something that was stolen like this. alicia: very breasting story. well, thousands of firefighters are doing everything they can to keep wild fires from burning out of control. that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i don't know. i think they look good, man. mm, smooth. uh, they are a little tight. like, too tight? might just need to break 'em in a little bit. you don't want 'em too loose. for those who were born to ride there's progressive. with 24/7 roadside assistance. -okay. think i'm gonna wear these home. -excellent choice.
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fierce across california. the dixie, which is now the largest wild fire so far this year has destroyed more than 40 homes and is threatening thousands more. now to the east coast where two trains collided near boston university friday, the cause of the crash remains unclear. and finally, in brooklyn, new york, two construction workers are recovering from the injuries sustained from a building collapse, the ceiling of a 5-story residential caved in on friday trapping the two workers under debris for over an hour. not clear what caused that collapse and that is the news for you mid-day on a saturday. alicia, thank you for joining us. that was great having you with us. alicia: so wonderful to see you, griff, fox house live continues with arthel and jillian. i'm alicia acuña. griff: alicia, i know that you're out on the west coast so be sure you go surfing today.
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