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from south carolina. so we look forward to hearing from him as well. a great team for you tonight. right now "your world" with neil cavuto gets underway. see you later, everybody. >> neil: all eyes tonight on the president of the united states. joe biden outlines his spending initiative. it's a $1.8 trillion plan to help families. but that's on top of spending that has been building under this president including a $2.25 trillion infrastructure package, what could amount to $2 trillion, already spent on covid relief. we're going to get into the details of that. fair and balanced with the republican senator from wyoming and leon panetta. bill clinton's chief of staff and whether we're building up a
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lot of debt very quickly. back in the bill clinton years, we started seeing those deficits being paired down and turned into surpluses. this president is confident that these initiatives will lead to economic booms that might have the same effect. we shall see. we're going to peter doocy at the white house with what we can expect in a bit of a different setting tonight, right? >> yes, neil. socially distanced this evening. we can expect to see president biden trying to appeal to american families who might be watching and might not normally pay attention to what happens here by offering them $1.8 trillion in now taxpayer-funded stuff. so we have a graphic to show you how it breaks down. trillion in investment and $800 billion in tax cuts for american families. $200 billion for universal preschool, $109 billion for two years of free community college and $225 billion for free child
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care. officials here insist this is only going to get paid for with new taxes on the ultra wealthy. >> you'll hear the president say tonight is that we really have a once in a generation opportunity right now to seize the moment, to make these investments. to really not only create jobs but create jobs for the long haul. these are really critical investments. the president believes we have an opportunity to come together and to make these investments. >> a small group of network anchors met with president biden privately today. he made this very revealing comment according to a transcript. he said we talk about can you unite the parties? i united the democratic party and no one thought it could happen. pretty damn quickly. that follows mitch mcconnell the republican leader saying he doesn't think that president biden has been reaching out quite enough. >> the biden administration seems to have given up on
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selling actual unity in favor of catnip for their liberal base. >> we have not seen the president today. we don't expect to see him for another 4 1/2 hours when he walks to the house to the car to go up the street to the hill, neil. >> neil: peter doocy at the white house. thank you. now to chad pergram where the president will be tonight on capitol hill. it's going to be a different environment in this covid world. not as many seats occupied. can you explain? >> that's right, neil. the president's annual speech to congress is the most visually important event in american politics. this will look different. only 200 people allowed in the house chamber. s that a fraction of the 1,600 that they usually have. >> i think audience response is important. when you have a limited audience, the people spaced very far apart, it creates completely
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different atmosphere in the room. >> with so few members, this may be the biggest change since lyndon johnson shifted his address to prime time in 1964. the january riot lingers in the minds of security officials. >> access control is number 1. you have to make sure that whoever gets inside that chamber is supposed to be there. >> gop tim scott will deliver the response. let's see if he talks about police reform. neil? >> neil: now to the omb director under president trump, russell good to see you. a lot of spending here and a lot of tax hikes. the irony being the record number and amount of tax hikes, they don't come close to footing the entire 6 1/3 trillion bill between the rescue plan, the jobs plan, the families plan.
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lots of plans. even with those tax hikes, not nearly enough to cover them all. what do you make of that? >> it's insane, neil. the reality is that those are just what's on paper. if you look at the obama administration, they had about $650 billion in tax revenue increases on paper. that led to $3 trillion in revenue loss because the economy tanked because of their policy agenda. this administration is basically the next one from the obama administration, so i think all of these job-killing taxes are going to really cause us to have not just an inability to pay for the spending but a really damaging economy. >> neil: well, you're not saying the economy tanked under barack obama? after the melt down it went up. picked up considerably. could have picked up more. you're right. it was tepid by recovery standards. >> yeah, we had slow growth.
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when you saw president trump come into office, we're talking about 3% growth again. yesterday you had ro khanna on talking about growing our way out of this economic situation that we find ourselves. we got lambasted for suggesting that we could be anywhere they're 3% growth. now they're declaring war on energy and raising taxes. >> neil: it's interesting the market today not withstanding continuing their winning ways under this president. so either they don't have the same fears about you or they're dismissing and saying it's going to be similar to the economy, the economic numbers look strong, retail sales numbers are strong. that is the wind at the president's back tonight. what do you think of that? >> i think that's right. they're still trying to ride the wave and the momentum. they're following the fed
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chairman closely and watching his press conference today. many critics of the fed currently are saying let's ride the momentum for a lot longer. some point things will change. we're not quite there yet. that's where the market is right now. >> neil: with all of this spending, can't help but goose the economy. we've seen what happens when you get people $1,400 checks. they spend them. had similar type reaction when you were in the white house with the president. i'm wondering if that is sending a signal to democrats that the more that they do this, the better the response. in other words, the majority of americans like this spending, i guess, as long as they don't have to pay for it. what do you think? >> i think once we went through the pandemic and the economic shock, we made the staggering numbers of trillions something that was relatively normal. now that was -- we were dealing with a once in a generation
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situation. we had to throw a bazooka at it. now we're faced with the reality with where the biden administration can put forward proposal after proposal that rounds to $2 trillion and it's normal. but i think the american people will be on to it. i don't think they want a transformed federal government that takes over all of their lives and takes on the responsibility to have universal pre-k and continue to dumb money in education. we already have sizable education spending in this country. so i do think it will lead to an a wakening on the american people. we're seeing an ongoing legislating and proposing in the pandemic era where trillion dollars is normal. >> neil: of course, you guys are no strangers to that. maybe for valid reasons of time, russell. you guys built up deficits with abandon as well, right? >> again, you heard my defense before. we were dealing with a pandemic
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and a economic shock that we were going to throw everything we could at it. we preposed trillions in savings that congress didn't take us up on. >> neil: but spending was building up prior to the pandemic. we had very good economy, prior to that it was regard low unemployment economy. but deficits and debt were building fast and furious long before covid came along, right? >> neil, we were the last president to put forward a balanced budget even though we're 15 years. we're proud of that budget. we would welcome the bidding war. that's not where the biden administration is headed. >> neil: all right. thanks, russell vought. want to explore that more with john barrasso, the wyoming senator. senator, i have a guide idea where you are on this spending. through the trump years were you were worried about debt building and it's still building.
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the majority of americans favor and like what they're seeing here. i'm not saying overwhelming margins, but are you worried that whatever your own doubts, it seems to be resonating with the american people? they like it may be as i was just raising with the former omb director because they don't have to pay for it. what do you think? >> ultimately people will have to pay for this, neil. as you know, joe biden is becoming the $6 trillion man as you just showed and he doesn't have the super powers he would like to have. his powers are in destroying jobs and damaging the economy. the impact of the average family in this country is $46,000 for every household. that is a heavyweight on the economy. we're talking about more money in six months of joe biden's presidency than all that we spent to win world war ii. so we're talking about a massive amount of red ink. >> neil: so i know you're against all the tax increases
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that are part of this, largely a lot to the rich. you also said it wouldn't end with the rich. can you explain? >> i think what we're seeing with this amount of red ink, there's going to have to be tax increases if joe biden can deal with this. you're talking about taxes that everyone is going to have to pay, not just some high income or businesses. when you tax businesses, that ricochets back on the people that live and spend money in our country. so they're going to raise taxes on individuals, businesses, on investments, on death, on inheritance. all of those things. everyone will pay. that will hurt the economy. what we know is that when we cut taxes in 2017, more people worked, higher wages, lower unemployment. the things you want in a growing economy. when you raise taxes, it goes the other way. so i have a lot of concerns about what i'm experting to hear tonight, which is joe biden
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giving away the store. >> neil: do you have any concerns right now, senator, these initiatives like infrastructure, republicans have come up with a plan that i think is about a quarter to a third of what the president's is. but it would not involve tax increases. i believe user fees, tolls, that sort of thing. how likely is that? is that the best -- when democrats ask, is that the best republicans are countering, is that the best alternative that republicans are coming up with to challenge what the president wants to do on infrastructure? >> well, that is core infrastructure. it's roads and bridges. the source of things that most americans think of when they think of infrastructure. remember, the president's proposal, which is basically act 2 of the spending, act 1 was the so-called coronavirus relief, which very little went for healthcare. act 2 is the so-called infrastructure.
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less than 6% of the money goods for roads and bridges. act 3 is what we're going to hear tonight in terms of free college, free child car, free everything. you name it. that's the three-act play for joe biden. with the infrastructure proposal that we made and i was one of the four proposing that at the news conference the other day, it's core infrastructure, it will help with roads, bridges, courts, airports, waterways. the biden plan last more money for electric cars in it than it does for all of those key issues that the american people need, want and we can afford to do right now. >> neil: senator barrasso, thanks very much. fair and balanced now. a popular democrat that says yes, you can with good and proper focus spending create a boon in the economy. the guy that was at bill clinton's side when that happened, leon panetta is next.
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trading, this despite the pile-on by politicians of both parties to go after facebook. but it's a juggernaut and continues to be more one. we're going to get numbers of the same quarter from apple. we'll keep you posted on those. that is the backdrop for my next guest. leon panetta, the former white house chief of stuff under bill clinton. you think about it, that tech boom, the internet boom, everything with it started gaining traction in the clinton years. that approach with zeroing in on spending, government spending, helped get deficits turning in to surpluses and for the first time in american history, the debt showily but surely wiped away. a number of democrats agree with president biden are saying the same thing will happen now. leon panetta joins us. good to see you. when you look at these tech numbers and you think of that
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boom that really see -- technology boom that started in the 90s and early 2000s, do you think that your colleagues in the democratic party have it right, that a boom, whether it's done by government spending here, which might be a leap, will be able to wipe out a lot of these deficits, maybe take a stab at the debt. what do you think of that? >> look, i think whether it's the republicans saying that if you have enough tax cuts, that will deal with the debt or the democrats saying if you spend an awful lot, that will deal with the debt. frankly both parties are not being responsible when it comes to dealing with the budget. the reason bill clinton was able to to what he did was we put together a very tough budget that had about $500 billion in
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deficit reduction. $250 billion in spending savings, $250 billion in revenues. it complimented what george bush did with his budget. for that reason, those two budgets, we were able to balance the federal budget and create a surplus for this country. that approach to budgeting has gone to hell. budget process itself has been broken for the last number of administrations. unless we begin to come back to some degree of discipline with the budget, that looks at both spending and revenues together, we're going to continue to raise the debt as we are now. >> neil: i think you're right about that, leon and you should run the other way if i'm agreeing with you. i did wonder about how bill clinton reached across the aisle and worked with newt gingrich, all of these bipartisan
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projects. there's nothing bipartisan about what is going on now. i guess, you know, the hope is that all of this trillions and trillions of spending, something has to stick and will create a boom. but can government spending alone create that kind of a boom? >> neil, i don't -- joe biden has presented a vision. obviously look, he's getting some high points from the american people for the way he's conducting his presidency. i understand that. he's also done some great things with regards to dealing with the pandemic as well as trying to get the economy going again. but every president, every president is going to ultimately be judged not only vision so much as what he's able to get done. whether or not he carries the support of the american people. so i know there's a lot of panic
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and politics around this whole issue of his proposals. but ultimately if he is going to get anything done, particularly in the senate where the numbers are as close as they are, he's going to have to compromise. he has to develop some kind of bipartisan approach in order to get it passed. that's the bottom line. i expect that joe biden himself understands that he's got to do that if he's going to be able to get anything done with regards to infrastructure or anything else. >> neil: there's no sign that is happening, leon. >> well, yeah, look, takes two to tango. what i would like to see is the republicans as welcome to the table and the democrats go to the table and begin to negotiate and bargain as we used to do when i was in congress, which is to basically sit down, listen,
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work together, come up with a compromise and move forward. that is what governing is about. frankly both the democrats and the republicans and the president are going to have to learn how to get back to governing. >> neil: there you go. leon panetta, thanks very much. former defense secretary for barack obama, former chief of staff for president bill clinton. there was a time when we saw deficits and a boom. it is possible. much of it hinges on bipartisan cooperation and a commitment to being as creative as how you address spending as to how you address tax cuts or hikes depending on your point of view. we have more coming up. more on this rudy guliani situation where federal investigators initiated a search warrant at his new york city apartment. what were they looking for? what will happen now? after this.
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>> neil: federal investigators issuing a search wore want of rudy guliani's apartment in new york city today. we don't know why. we're told they might have to deal with his connections to the ukraine when he worked with donald trump. we'll see after this. a continuous glucose monitor, you can check your glucose with a painless, one-second scan. and now with optional alarms, you can choose to be notified if you go too high or too low.
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new york was much more involved in the pandemic death toll undercounting than had earlier been reported. now, the only detail is whether it was deliberate. let's go to bryan llenas who is following this story in new york. bryan? >> neil, good afternoon. we're learning more to the extent about cuomo's aides tried to cover up the true number of covid-19 deaths in the state's nursing homes. "the new york times" reporting that since early spring, earlier than what was reported before, the aides tried to purposely hide this data. reportedly cuomo's senior aides revented the state's health department altered the numbers. an audit was not made public for months. 200 health department letters drafted for state lawmakers on the subject were never sent. now governor cuomo's administration is reportedly under investigation by the fbi
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and the u.s. attorney in brooklyn looking at who cuomo's team purposely covered up the true death toll data in nursing homes. remember, this was requested by the department of justice twice last year. it has already been reported that cuomo's top aides omitted more than 3,000 nursing homes covid-19 deaths from a july department of health report saying that they could not verify how many residents died at hospitals despite the fact that we know they were collecting all of this data since last april. an attorney representing cuomo's office told the times this: the whole brouhaha is overblown to the point that there's cynical suggestions offered for the truth that the chamber wanted to release accurate information that they believed was totally unassailing. the governor's administration is accused of purposely hiding this administration but accused of
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doing so because they feared of political consequences. remember, there's the accusation that this was purposely done because the governor was publishing a back last year and that this record that came out last july was timed at the exact moment that he was negotiating in at least $4 million book deal for that memoire on leadership skills. neil? >> neil: you to another story involving rudy guliani and federal investigators raiding his apartment today. charlie gasparino on what they might be looking for. charlie? >> we don't have a lot of information right now. rudy is supposed to come out and provide a statement. i found it interesting he didn't host his radio show on wabc 77, a talk radio show. they had a filler in for that involving the mayoral race. be that as it may, this is still murky. if you are going to guess, read
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"the new york times," you know, we've been following this, it's rudy's ties to the ukraine, whether he was lobbying for these business interests overseas with the president and whether he broke laws doing that. i'll say this. i spent some time speaking with rudy's people. if he stepped out of the line on something like this, he's really slipping. there's something wrong here. this is something that rudy as a long-time lawyer, the former u.s. attorney for the southern district, the premier law enforcement office in the country, which is probably doing the investigation into him right now, which is somewhat unprecedented, i don't think i've heard of a former u.s. attorney being investigated by the office he ran, he really screwed up here. again, i'll say this, neil.
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it's murky about whether someone is officially lobbying and whether that is actionable in terms of a crime. clearly they're looking for his e-mails to see what he was thinking about, state of mind, intent to do something illegal. whether he knew it was illegal when he did it, that is a huge thing. sometimes people step over the line because they don't know. we should also point out that this is an investigation. it doesn't -- he's not guilty of anything. you know, i will say this. for the fbi to grade his home and take his computer, a federal judge would have to show -- they would -- the u.s. attorney's office would have to show probable cause. they have to have something here. this is serious. the former mayor, u.s. attorney is in hot water. this is and indication of that. we have to hear what mr. guliani has to said. rudy is supposed to give a statement i think.
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there's conflicting reports on twitter. he put -- we're waiting and -- they thought they might. we'll see. charlie, thanks very much. want to let you know apple's earnings are out. let's say it was a blow-out quarter. sales up more than 54%. also blew past sales estimates in every product category. $90 billion promised in share buybacks. you announce that kind of report, not surprising, your stock rises close to 5%. facebook with similar strong earnings. the technology world continues to make money. stay with us. you're watching "your world." is now a good time for a flare-up?
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barometer pretty much for the country and maybe the markets as a whole. its sales and earnings sizzling in the latest quarter usually considered a slower quarter after the busy fourth quarter shopping season. this one was nothing less than a blow-out. overall sales, 54% higher than a year ago period. much stronger than they thought. to put it in context, the number of iphones they sold, 65% more than last year. the number of ipads about 70% more. personal commuters, around 78% more. after hours trading, the stock is jumping, continuing a trend we've seen with the likes of facebook and alphabet. to a lesser extent with microsoft. art hogan, scott martin here with you. art, to you first. what do you make of what is happening with apple and more to the point technology in general? >> right. neil, one of the things we think about a lot as we normalize the
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economy, how many of these companies pulled forward demand. we need new lab tops and ipads and phones, et cetera. clearly this quarter shows that that is not the case for apple. they continue to create demand for new products and clearly the tip of the iceberg for the 5g roll-out. they just added $90 billion to the current buy-back program. it's a very shareholder friendly report and the numbers blew everybody away. >> neil: yeah. increasing its dividend. for a lot of viewers want to know when that means, when they have enough confidence to buy their stock, lets the market go higher and all that. having said that, scott martin, it is a good reflection on the american consumer. in this case, the global consumer as welcoming out of this pandemic. not to say we're hurting during it. what do you make of the appetite
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to buy items that are not necessarily cheap? >> the great tail wind. when some of that money is coming for free in the mail or korea direct deposit from your friends in washington d.c., makes the purchases easier. we're in the midst or early innings of a 5g iphone upgrade cycle. that is what is showing up in this quarterly report. what is interesting, could be pursuant to maybe more of the consumer demand out there, the services part of apple, which i mean -- gosh, guys. the last few years, it's taken on a life of its own. you're talking about apple icloud, the app store, apple music and apple arcade that i play at home with my kids. those things are the high margin services products that the company has, neil. those are firing on all cylinders, too. so this company soup to nuts is taking care of business here and the stock price is reflecting
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it. >> neil: you know, art, if i can step back from technology. are you bullish with this? the markets that run a tear under donald trump continue to build under joe biden. i'm just wondering how long this goes on? are there enough daughters out there or issues or worried to justify. usually people say the hell with it, i'm riding this bell as long as i can go. what do you tell people? >> i'll tell you this. interestingly, it's one of those years where earning estimates have gone higher that happened twice in the last ten years. we're clearly seeing the beginning of what is parabolic earnings growth and obviously gdp growth as the economy normalizes. so i don't think we can correctly factor in what the s&p 500 can earn next year. last summer, we thought that was going to be $172. coming into this morning, 186. i bet you anything, it's north of $190 for the s&p 500 earnings
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for 2021 by the end of this reporting season. that means if you don't change the multiple, you get to 4,300, yeah, there's more tail winds than head winds right now. the stocks need to take a pause am some juncture. yeah, we've had constructions. technology sold off a month ago. back in favor now. cyclicals were selling off. russell 2,000 had an 8% draw down. back in favor again. what we're seeing is rotational corrections which makes it a healthy market. >> neil: scott, if i could throw out an unhealthy development in washington. maybe healthy because stimulus is stimulus. trillions in spending. wall street doesn't have any discretion as to whether it's coming through more spending or tax cuts. but they seem to like it just fine. if they're worried about it, they have a funny way of showing it. what do you think? >> yeah, wild parties are fun until your parents come home. i think i know that from
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experience maybe. a flashback or two. >> neil: i was busy at home studies and as was art. we cannot relate to that example. continue the thought. >> i had parties that nobody would come to. but. >> neil: i got it. >> the reality is d.c. is addicted to this just like students are to partying. the sense of they keep spending, they keep putting out these numbers and keeping the consumer on the government doll until they can't stop anymore. at some point this has to be paid for. i think we're starting to see indications of that. capital gain taxes, corporate tax hikes. that stuff will show up sooner than later. that's when we start to have market volatility here. >> neil: art, a new investor comes to you and says art, i want in on this market. i've never been on it. i hear these good things. i caught you last night. i want in. what do you tell them? >> you tell a new investor that you want a barbell approach in
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2021. on one end you'll have fast growth companies, 5g is one of those themes. cloud computing and cloud security are two themes. apple falls into that category of 5g. the other end of that, i want you to look at your portfolio and keep the barbell level every two months so if technology is running ahead, we'll take profits there and put it in the cyclicals. if you did that in 2020, you outperformed the s&p 500 and the same thing is true this year. that is a new investor has a to look at this and balance and diversified. >> neil: yeah, your perspective. for me, for young people, it's longer term. can be a ways. people like scott. but for long-term for me is lunch time. we'll have to sort that out. thanks both very much. again, some big news we got out of apple. very closely watched technology stocks like facebook and
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>> much has been said of the
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president's big address of congress tonight. it will be weird as we told you. a maximum of 200 people in the audience there in a covid-safe environment. nancy pelosi has arranged 40 republicans and 40 democrats can come on their own or bring people that they see fit or want to invite in their stead. all of this though at a time that the president isn't only going to be talking about that planned spending, better than $6 trillion, if you go back to the covid relief, if you would expect, but his new plans that will include for families and kids initiatives that will provide everything from free day care coverage and a lot more. peter doocy at the white house with what we might be able to expect. hey, peter. >> the social distancing isn't the only thing different. viewers at home grew accustomed over the eight obama state of the unions and seeing joe biden seated behind him in the vice
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president's seat. the first time that biden steps up to the mic and the first time that there are two women seated behind him. the vice president, kamala harris and the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi. we have not seen the president today. we understand the last 2 1/2 days he's been very involved with the crafting of this speak making sure it's perfect. we heard a white house official say it's about 5,000 words right now. we don't know how much he's going to be slowed down by applause. but to your point, about the trillions upon trillions of dollars, the infrastructure package that he proposed for about $2 trillion a few weeks ago has not been debated yet in congress. they were trying to what qualifies as infrastructure. they're moving forward $1.8 trillion in new spending proposals, a combination and tax relief for american families. there's some progressives that
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might not be completely happy with everything that they hear because of what is going to be left out. over the weekend, bernie sanders led a group of progressive senators in writing to the president asking him to use this opportunity to announce that he's expanding medicare eligibility and that he wants to lower -- has a concrete plan to lower prescription drug prices. both things that candidate biden promised and that during the transition biden talked about happening within the first 100 days. day 100 tomorrow. those things are not happening. listen for that afterwards, neil. >> neil: all right. sounds like a lot of spending, a lot of details. thanks, peter doocy on all of that. when we come back, remembering and icon that passed away. remember michael collins? the command module pilot on apollo 11? he died.
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>> neil: he was the iconic apollo 11 astronaut who did not walk on the moon, while neil armstrong and buzz aldrin were doing that on the lunar surface, michael collins was circling some 60 miles over that surface, he didn't mind, said he appreciated the tranquility. he died of cancer at 90. his family said it was peaceful, it was quiet, much like the dignity and style he brought
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becoming an iconic hero, something he hated being called, over the years i had the pleasure of interviewing him and his colleagues on that mission. he reminded me that half the joy was just exploring, the moon was just a stop, even back then he was setting his sights on mars. take a look. speaker neil armstrong, who i think was a far more competent engineer than i, thought that discussing mars, there were chunks of missing knowledge along the way and that those who perhaps be filled and at least partially by a stopover or some intermediate step of going back to the moon. it was not clear clearly delineated, kneeled at almost five years ago and i was one ofe questions. i think the current plan has been well thought out. i just disagree with it. i thought we ought to shoot
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directly for planet mars, i use to joke when i came back from apollo 1111 that i'd been sent to the wrong planet, nasa should be renamed, 20 some years ago i even wrote a book, a whole boring book on a mission to mars and i've always been a believer in mars. i would choose a direct, jfk mars direct express is what i would call it. >> a conspiracy theorist who said you guys never got to the moon, that this is all a sham, i know buzz aldrin dealt with that issue. is it buggy when these conspiracy guys on this 30th anniversary are saying, on this very day that that was the case? >> i just don't know how to answer that. you know, they saw the gigantic saturn rocket go up at cape canaveral, it went
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somewhere. they saw the pictures of the small earth, they were taken from some great distance, on the surface of what appeared to me to be a moon, i didn't see any cigarette butts or anything lying around out there so i'm convinced that we want. but how do you convince someone who's not, i have no idea, it's beyond me. >> neil: an american hero, genuine article, he was shy, he was intensely quiet, didn't like to brag, didn't like to boast and yet he was the astronaut most recall because he was the guy who didn't walk on the moon, he was 60 miles above it and enjoying, he said, every minute of it. i asked him, what was it like all alone and that command box as you were waiting, knowing there was a possibility you have to pick them up and if something went wrong you have to go home alone. he said i never thought of that.
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what i enjoyed was how quiet it was, blessedly quiet. michael collins dead at age 90. we will miss him. and his urge to explore. ♪ ♪ >> jesse: hello, everybody, i'm jesse watters along with dana perino, juan williams, katie pavlich and brian kilmeade. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." open up your wallet, america, president biden wants trillions more of your tax dollars. four hours from now, biden will be giving his first address before a joint session of congress, the president's american families plan coming with a whopper of a price tag at nearly $2 trillion. including items like

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