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thanks for inviting us into your home tonight that's it for "special report" fair balance and unafraid. fox news prime time hosted this week by ben domenech starts right now. how does it feel ben? >> ben: i'm hanging on for dear life, thank you very much. good evening and welcome to "fox news primetime." ♪ ♪ >> ben: in the chronicles of the second world war you usually hear the tales of the battles world war and did. world war big fights outnumbered by the thousands by the small ones. you never hear about the battle of bam about. er bridge but you should because the insane politics of our time have made that fight suddenly relevant. bamber bridge isn't some european river crossing or a landmark in a pacific island battlefield small village in england's countryside where on a
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hot night in june of 1943 the forces of freedom and oppression came to blows. but there were no axis, no nazis involved in this battle. the two sides at the battle of bamber bridge white soldiers and military police of a still segregated united states army vs. the black soldiers of the 1,511th quarter master truck regimen. the black soldiers had been going to the pubs of bamber bridge and the villagers were happy to see and serve them. that didn't sit well with segregateds they visited the pubs with a simple request implement will racial segregation along the american lines. pub owners agreed they promised when the next white soldiers came to the pubs they would find them racially segregated. the next night white soldiers did come. they found that the pub owners had kept their promise at the entry the pressroom promises were signs reading black troops only. insulted and outraged by the taste of their medicine it
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wasn't long before the mps tried to arrest a black soldier at the pub. it then spiraled and american soldiers came to blows with one another. the battle of bamber bridge was on. bamber bridge comes to mind today illuminates how far we have come and how far we have regressed as a society grappling with race. the african-american soldiers of the 1,511th never actually wanted black only pubs nor did the pub owners have any intention to impose racial segregation in own communities. the black troops only signs were exist politically meant and understood statementing the trillion racial bigotry. animated by the war time vv campaign fighting victory over fascism abroad and racism at home the black soldiers at about. amber bridge and armingd the world did not seek supremacy for themselves. they fought for equality. as americans they deserved it.
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as men created in the image of god they were born to it. imagine though a malevolent alternate reality version of this real life tale. imagine a world in which the battle of bamber bridge was a real bid for racial supremacy on all sides with the only question being whether whites or blacks would come out on top. you might say this sounds anti-american. distopic, insane, a recipe for perpetual blood shed and you would be right. but our elites, people of extraordinary moral depravity say it's exactly how the world should be. the fanatical idealogues of the to tall tarren left encounter a sign black only see no they see a good start. the comical stupidity of racial bigotry is a foundational principal for the organization of american society. that's why, for example, here in the real world, we see a revered
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medical institution the brigham and women's hospital of boston, massachusetts announced that it will allocate care according to race based preferences. sure, this flies in the face of every medical ethos every formulated sure this is probably also illegal but these elites of the professional class are gripped by an intellectual fever. they are seized with the belief that race matters above all else and that the only moral conduct of affairs is dictated by racial categories and hierarchies. it's no isolated i want. and no preposterous parallel. everywhere you look you see powerful people and elite institutions align themselves with propositions abhorrent to the american founding and most americans. they will use anything and everything to create racial strife. fanning the flames of tension and destroying our common bonds as neighbors and friends. all men, they say, are not created equal.
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we know better. you know better. the black soldiers of bamber bridge knew better. in a moral dispute between the ruling elites of our generation and the very best of the greatest generation picking sides is an easy call. racial bigotry can bowls our nation into great ovals and sorrows that shamed our past and sim complicate our present. when it comes to those have same bigotry define our future there is no compromise. i'm ben domenech. this is the american crisis. ♪ >> ben: the department of justice announcing a probe into the minneapolis police department just a day after officer derek chauvin was kicked in the murder of george floyd. attorney general merrick garland seems to believe that chauvin's actions are representative of a greater issue in minneapolis policing. and not a dark exception to an otherwise decent force. >> yesterday's verdict in the state criminal trial does not address potentially systemic
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policing issues in minneapolis. the challenges we face are deeply woven into our history. they did not arise today or last year. building trust between community and law enforcement will take time and effort by all of us. but we undertake this task with determination and urgency knowing that change cannot wait. >> ben: joining me now john turnipseed author of the book bloodline spend enough time in hell and you get the feeling you belong. vice president of urban ventures a minneapolis organization that serves under service the neighborhoods. thank you so much for taking the time to join me today. >> thanks for having me. >> ben: i want to talk to you about a number of different issues. first, let me begin with this. we see the racial strife that has played thought this country over the past year in cities and
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in communities across america. i know that there are many white americans today who are troubled by what they see but unwilling to really voice their concerns, unwilling to really engage in it, and, frankly, fearful that they will be canceled or fired or have ramifications for them if they speak out in their communities. what do you say in terms of a message to those people today about how they ought to interact with their friends across racial lines who are troubled by what they have seen but do not necessarily embrace the idea that america is a systemically racist country? >> well, you know, i seen a sign the other day that said white silence is violent. -- is violence. what i took from that is if good people do nothing, there is an old saying, you know, that's how evil gets a stranglehold on our community. the people that have power or a
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sense of power have to stand up for people that don't. so, i say, you know, to all my white friends, you know, that lend their privilege and they can lend their privilege by their voice with their friends. racism is learned at home and so, this is where we can stop this. it has to be in the homes and in the hearts of everybody. and people need not to be afraid. people need to speak out for, you know, against injustice. >> ben: when the attorney general talks about this being a systemic problem within minneapolis. i know that you live and work in that community. do you share his feelings about this? or do you believe that derek chauvin should be viewed as an exception to the rule when it comes to policing? >> in my view, he might not be the exception but is he a small minority in the minneapolis police department. you know, chief aaron donda and i are actually friends. i have been abused by police and
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beat up by police and talked bad to by police but i have got to believe that most of the police in our city are good police officers. the problem is guys like chauvin were allowed -- he would get 20 complaints and still keeps his job? that's a problem. nobody else could do that. and we -- and the police have ignored what we call thumpers. and thumper is somebody that arrests people and they always get beat up and chauvin was one of those guys. so, is it a problem? yes. but i also say are all black guys gang bangers? no. so we have to look at the police department on its merit. we need to do some changes and i think chief aaron dodged are inherited a bunch of problems. and before him it was really crazy. >> ben: what i hear when i listen to the politicians that we have on the national level is a depiction of all cops as being racist. all cops as being, to your word,
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thumpers, essentially. that there is no interaction that you can have with a cop where you can have faith that they're going to, you know, adjudicate law and order not along racial lines. what can we do to replace sort of this type of narrative about cops who clearly, in america, you know, the vast majority of them do a good job? they do their duty and they live up to the obligation that they have to protect and serve? >> yeah, one of the ways we have to do it is police officers have to police themselves. you know, a fellow police officer telling another police officer that don't do that, that is wrong means more than me saying it. you know, and police departments have to not allow this type of behavior. not even let the unions allow this type of behavior. you know, if you are accused of things over and over again, you need to go. and the good cops out there need to stand up and talk to the bad
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cops and get them out of there. because it's giving all of them a bad name. so i just say the police department has to police itself. we can't make them do anything. they can make themselves do a whole lot. >> ben: john, thank you so much for taking the time to join me tonight. also here tonight, man gel, manhattan institute policy director and city journal editor raffaele thank you so much for taking the time to join me. >> thanks for having me, ben. >> ben: i want to get your reaction to what have you seen play out in the last 24 hours in terms of the chauvin verdict and everything that you have seen from it. in particular, i wanted to get your reaction to the comments we heard last night from joe biden regarding the state of policing in the nation. >> yeah, no, i think it's interesting because, you know, one of the themes that you saw play out throughout the chauvin trial was the prosecution kept reminding the jury that only one man was on trial, right?
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the police at large were not on trial. unfortunately that's a message that does not seem to have gotten through to the biden administration who i think saw this as an opportunity to reinforce the misperception the widely held misperception that police violence is an epidemic problem particularly one that is oppressing minority communities across the country that's precisely the wrong message that needs to be set now one because it's wrong and two because it has bad consequences. doj to launch this pattern of investigation to me is precisely the wrong thing to do at a time in which minnesota is seeing violent crime skyrocket. in 2020, minnesota saw as many murders as it has seen since 1995. and this year so far murders are up again. now, the thing about these pattern and practice investigations is that they were very common under the obama administration. and we have some information about how those played out. and i think what we can expect now is exactly what we saw then,
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which is that when these investigations are launched in the wake of a viral incident, something like with what happened to george floyd, we see that crime skyrockets in those jurisdictions. and the reason that is so because those investigations send a message to the local police officers from the doj which is that we are coming from all of you. and that instills a sense of fear across police departments that makes them want to prioritize risk minimization over pro-activity. and this isn't just me talking here this. is something that's actually been studied. right? there was a study released last year by harvard economists that actually looked at the effect on crime pattern and practice investigations and their central finding was that police pro-activity levels went through the floor in the wake of investigations that were launched after viral incidents and crime skyrocketed. 900 additional homicides, 34,000 additional felonies across a two-year period in just five cities. >> ben: look, i know that you are someone who concentrates on this and pays enormous attention
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to the data that comes out regarding all of these things and you frequently push back against the narratives that we see take hold within our media landscape. i have been disturbed by the way in which the media and democrat politicians have repeatedly pushed this idea that what was seen in the incident of george floyd's death was a representation of systemic racism. throne blinken actually had a tweet out today on this point saying systemic racism is a stain on our nation's soul. to me, i look at a situation like this and i feel like that type of rhetoric only foments additional racial violence and tension in a way that is unnecessary and is not in any way justified by what we saw in minnesota. what are your thoughts on and this your reaction to secretary blinken's tweet? >> yeah. i mean, it's precisely the wrong message to send. it's not justified. and, in fact, what we know is
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that it creates vast misperceptions that are sincerely held by a growing portion of the american population. there's a recent study that came out from the manhattan institute by my colleague eric coffman which showed that a large majority, 8 in 10 young black men believed that they were more likely to be killed by police than die in a car accident. this, of course, is completely at odds with what the data say. and it's the product of a media narrative that is incessant that is nonstop that continues to beat this drum. you know, let's be honest, right? there are racial disparities across the criminal justice system. there are things in the enforcement data with respect to policing that cannot be fully explained by other factors. right? so there may very well be some underlying bias at play. but it does not characterize the institution as a whole. right? and the other thing is that this argument ignores the other side of the ledger. right? there are some really -- if we are going to talk about racial disparities. let's talk about all of them.
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over the course of the 1990s during the great crime decline what we saw the impact of the decline in homicides on the life expectancy of black men was to add a full year to that life expectancy. compare that to how white men faired, it only added 0.14 years. that's because the relates remains unfortunately today that the burden of crime disproportionately falls on the shoulders of the least advantaged. that is extremely troubling because when the doj takes steps like this that we know are very likely to increase crime, it's going to be the most vulnerable among us that pay the most. >> ben: raffaele, thanks so much for taking the time to join me tonight. >> thanks again for having me. >> ben: coming up, lebron james, enemy of due process. how the nba star is putting a target on the back of a cop in columbus, ohio. senator ted cruz joins me on that point next. ♪ ♪ how great is it that we get to tell everybody how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? i mean it...
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♪ ben weapon officials in columbus, ohio are call for patience and due process following the police-involved shooting death of a teenage girl. it's a complicated case. the girl bryant was swing ago knife at another woman when police arrived at the scene and the ohio bureau of investigation has begun a probe. but lebron james has no time for due process he wants that cop's hide now. james tweeted out a picture of the officer to his nearly 50 million followers with a simple and direct message "you're next." senator ted cruz of texas is here now to react. senator cruz, what is your reaction to this tweet from lebron james? >> well, you know, unfortunately, this is a pattern where the left consistently goes after, attacks and demonizes police officers. and they do so often before the
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facts are known, often before there is any evidence of what happened but their immediate reaction whenever there is an incident is that police officers is in the wrong, the police officer is the villain. and in this instance, you're next could certainly be interpreted by some, even as a call for violence. and i think it was a grossly irresponsible message for lebron james to send out and we have now seen the body cam footage from what occurred and by any measure it was a volatile situation. the woman who was killed was wielding a knife, was violent, appeared to be threatening the least of others. it may well be on an investigation that this police officer saved the life of a potential victim of a knife attack and, we shouldn't jump to conclusions. there need to be an investigation, any time there is a shooting that takes someone's life it should be investigated. the facts should be determined but the left doesn't care about the facts, they care about
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demonizing and attacking law enforcement and i think it's wrong. >> ben: you know, senator i know you are someone that cares a great deal the degree to which we have seen these capitalist entities, american companies engage in politics in recent months in a way that they really haven't before. taking sides on culture war issues in an unprecedented way. obviously the nba was one of these entities in the past. but, one of the things that i am concerned about is what is to be done? what can be done to push back and to brush back these american corporations that seem to really have as their priority list these woke issues and these anti- -- frankly anti-law enforcement, anti-law and order approaches when it comes to their engamement with politics. >> the past month in particular has been ominous in that. we have seen the rise of the woke corporations. we have seen giant companies
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readily enlisting to be the enforcers of democrats and the extreme left remaining in power. and, look, i think many ceos, particularly ceos at big companies they are risk averse. they are scared. and the left is invested for over a decade they have invested in infrastructure where they have lists of left wing employees at every big company. they have lists of left wing shareholders at every big company and they have learned that these ceos act like scared little children that if they get a few of their lefty employees or a few of their lefty shareholders pounding them that they just make the decision to give in. and right now i think even for the most a political of ceos as they look at the cost benefit analysis, the cost and benefit of giving in to the left wing mob exceed what they perceive to be the costs. but a reckoning is coming, i believe. we saw delta airlines do this and give n atlanta in a way that
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was shameful. we have seen coca-cola do it. we saw most disturbingly major league baseball yank the all-star game out of atlanta and move it to denver. i have got say it really does illustrate how absurd and unconnected to substance these moves are. atlanta is 51% african-american. they moved it to denver, a city that is 9% african-american because they are such woke social justice warriors that they are going to take $100 million out of the pockets of the african-american small businesses and workers in atlanta. it makes no sense. it's dangerous and i do think there is a strong backlash that is building because the american people, when you go to a baseball game, you are not interested in their lecturing you on left wing politics. you would like to see people play a game of baseball. >> ben: the thing that i'm concerned about, senator, we have these handful of institutions that still unite us in american life. and we see them being torn apart
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by this woke leftism which is taking over all of these different entities that had been unifying elements of american life that we could all go to a baseball game together and cheer alongside each other regardless of race of religion, et cetera. to me, this is something that has to be solved from the bottom up, from the communities and we need these -- we need these corporations to get back to being, you know, in the business of being american companies. what can you do as a politician to try to force them into that lane as opposed to the direction that they are going to seems fundamentally anti-american? >> well, you could call them out. you can shine a light on them and you can also end any special subsidies or benefits they get. when major league baseball moved the all-star game out of atlanta playing naked politics, i join with several other senators in introducing legislation to revoke the special exemption from the antitrust laws that major league baseball gets that no other sports league gets.
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that's an example where you don't get to come and get subsidies from the government while you are playing politics. beyond that shining a light is really important. you know, last year the nba decided they were going to get very political. they put black lives matter on the courts and their profits plummeted. the phrase go woke, go broke, i think that is a potent deterrent and i think there is going to be a lot more discussion about how not to patronize companies that decide half of america they don't care about us, they don't want our support. there need to be consequence force that. >> ben: republicans buy sneakers too, of course. thank you very much, senator cruz for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> ben: coming up, the new cold war against china heating up. how beijing is beating us on the cultural battlefield. newt gingrich is standing by on this one straight ahead. ♪ ♪
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again again a year and a half ago i was standing in the streets of hong kong watching group of people i have ever seen staring down the forces of communist wrath. i met and interviewed these young people barely old enough to buy a drink and talk about their tragic doomed struggle against beijing trying to hold onto the hong kong they knew and loved. china made great use of this pandemic, which came from wuhan and it's not racist to say that. they cracked down on hong kong and brought these freedom-minded young people to their knees. and all the while, american interests from the nba to apple to google to the biden family to the biden family looked the other way you know about the disney corporations to the chinese. chao the beautiful 23-year-old who supporters call her the real mulan was willing to go to driven for her beliefs. a simple straightforward idea that people are born with the right to be free. as a child of the 1980s, i grew up seeing one movie after
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the other where the soviet union rightly depicted as an evil empire the russians were bent on world domination and time again on the silver screen americans would fight back against them. where are such depictions of china today in the chinese communist party subjugates its people. it has embarked on the mission of genocide against the uyghur muslims. it threatens tijuana, it hacks our government. it is a malevolent force in the world that hue mill united states our feckless bureaucrats by invoking the same arguments as critical race theorists. these are deeply evil people who make the perfect villains. but hollywood doesn't show us that. instead, they take the tijuana flag off the top gun jacket. they depict china as a friend in movies like the martian. even pro-american directors like michael bay are compromised by trying to appeal to the chinese market. what this generation sees on the screen matters. the culture wars are real. but when it comes to china, it feels like only one nation is fighting them.
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joining me now newt gingrich former speaker of the house and fox news contributor. thanks so much for taking the time to join me tonight, newt. >> i'm delighted and you are talking about a topic that was made, i think each more relevant by the speeches last night by the president and vice president and by the tweet today by the secretary of state, you know, the chinese communist don't need a propaganda department. all they got to do is show film of biden, harris, and others who themselves condemn the united states. it's amazing to watch as americans too the bidding of the chinese communist dictatorship and i was xi jinping i would seriously consider closing the propaganda office and just showing film of american politicians who attack america. it's truly astonishing and another contrast with the cold war. other than people like bernie sanders, almost nobody in the cold war thought the soviet
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union was good. today there are billionaires who love the chinese dictatorship because it made them that rich. >> ben: you know, and it's disgusting to me to see i feel like i grew up in an environment in which it have very clear that there were moral lines that were different between the way that the soviets tweeted their people and the way that america treated its people. i think of daniel patrick moynahan i brought up last night am i ashamed to speak for less than perfect democracy. find me its equal. and, yet, i don't see any of that represented in today's democratic party and the left seems to have embraced all of these criticisms of america as being this fundamentally systemically racist and irredeemable country. what can we do to fight back against this, to push back against it in a way that will actually have an impact and will change the way that our children are brought up and taught about this country? >> well, look, i think there has been a huge shift in the
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american people towards understanding that the chinese communist dick share theship is just that and i think that's a precursor to a lot of other changes that are coming down the road pretty rapidly. but, to understand how truly sick this is, i think you could take biden and hairs' speeches and match them up to the chinese foreign minister in anchorage where he lectured americans will domestic weaknesses and i bet you couldn't tell which paragraph was which. because the left in the u.s. dislikes america at least as much as the chinese communist do. and it's one of the most amazing moments in history to have a country which is so remarkable come here. they don't think we have racism. they think we have equal opportunity. they don't think we are trapped in a cancel culture they think
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we have rule of law. yet now the people in charge almost all of them dislike america would tear it down if they could and believe in a model of the world that frankly just doesn't work. >> ben: as someone who formerly led effectively the republican party within the context of the 1990s, i'm curious as to your perception of what the party ought to be doing right now. it seems to me that unfortunately, there is a thing that happens time and again where republicans basically just want to sit back and let elections work out for them and they don't really advocate around a set of principles or ideas that they take to the american people and use to convince them to give them that right to govern. what should they be doing right now on this issue and on others in order to push back against the biden administration's acceptance of critical race theory and all of these accusations against the united states as being a systemically
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and irrelevant redeemably racist country. >> the first thing to do is take on realization the new racism as you would point out earlier you have hospitals that say they are going to treat people based on racial standing. phil, it's illegal. second of all it's over racism. republicans have to learn to win the argument about who is the real racist. the real racists are people like biden and harris. the real racists are the people who want to set quotas mostly by the way excluding asian americans. the real rate ofs are the people who want to brainwash your child so that they feel guilty about being born white or being born of mixed background. and i think we have got to be much tougher, republicans have to kevin mccarthy took a first
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step to censure maxine waters for engaging in totally outrageous and i think dangerous dangerous -- the party has to learn how to fight again. when i grew up and worked with reagan in the 1970s and 1980s. we didn't have rush limbaugh and fox news and all sorts of advantages. but we knew how to fight. and the republican party has to start fighting again. >> ben: going on offense is a critical aspect of this. thank you so much speaker gingrich for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> ben: coming up, the chilling effect of cancel culture. why conservatives are afraid to share how they really feel about race and politics. ♪ ♪
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♪ ben weapon seven censorship is on the rise tonight conservatives are afraid to talk about how they feel when it comes to race and politics for fear of losing their job. but the climate seems to be more welcoming to progressives. 58% of them feel comfortable sharing their views compared to 60% of republicans who think
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talking politic could say get them fired. joining me now is the author of that poll emily ekins. thank you so much for taking the time to join me tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> ben: emily, tell me a little bit about what dynamics you see going on when it comes to the awareness that conservatives have of what could be the consequences for sharing their views in a public setting, particularly in the workplace? >> right, we were very surprised by these results. in particular, for conservatives, 77% either self-censoring, graduates from college are afraid they are going to get fired from their job. i think we have a really serious problem when people are worried about paying their bills and taking care of their family they are worried about losing their livelihood all over just sharing their political views or, you know, maybe just writing something on facebook or having a bumper sticker on their car costing them their job. it's something that many people are very concerned about.
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>> ben: i think one of the things that we have seen happen in terms of the american dynamic over the past couple of years is that the standards have shifted it use offed to be that if you were a celebrity or if you were an athlete, if you were somebody in the public eye you could have opinions and there would be ramifications for it now it feels like that's true of everyone, regardless of the level of their achievement or their career. is that the kind of thing that you saw? >> i mean, i think that's definitely part of it. you know, people that don't have no power or a lot of money, they are definitely more at the mercy of, you know, staying silent and self-censoring their view. take, for instance, a lot of political donations are public information. in the polling that we did, we found that 50% of progressive liberals wanted to fire people who had donated to donald trump campaign. now, we also found it on the political right, too. but to a lesser extent. about a third of conservatives wanted to fire biden voters. and as you can see this creates a big problem when even if you
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don't talk about politics at work. you don't bring it into the workplace but some of your co-workers see how donated to and that makes them upset, that could put your job at risk this. really does have very negative ramifications for democracy when people are afraid to participate. >> ben: one of the things that we have always done, obviously in the country is that the ability to function as a democratic republican republic relies on our ability to adjudicate these things in elections and then be able to live with each other afterwards. do you feel like this is an under current that's going to lead to increasing toxicity and increasing frankly silencing on the part of rarous people self-censoring themselves in order to avoid the ramifications of sharing what their true beliefs are? >> oh, absolutely. i think it has very negative effects on democracy, on a free society. let me give you an example. we did some polling a while back where we asked people what was an acceptable treason cancel a speaker on a college campus.
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i'm sure you have heard a lot of examples of those. we gave hypotheticals. we found half of americans. ed to cancel a speaker who would disrespect or criticize the police and then another half wanted to cancel a speaker that would defend police practices. and as you put that data together you have a really absurd situation where you have got half of america who doesn't want you to criticize and the other half that doesn't want you to defend the police. how on earth can we ever get police reform if we can't even talk about it? as one person put to me they said silence is safer. and that means we don't make progress. >> ben: that's the kind of thing that lets those divisions just simmer and simmer and ultimately explode. emily, thank you so much for taking the time to join me tonight. >> thank thanks for having me. >> up next, america's restaurant industry still struggling to pick up the pieces after a year of unnecessary covid lockdowns how sheriff andrew grewell
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>> ♪ ♪ >> small businesses have been crushed by pandemic restrictions over the last year and no industry has been hurt more than bars and restaurants. look at these numbers. california lost 390,000 restaurant jobs. new york 200,000. illinois, florida and texas around 100,000 jobs lost. many restaurant owners are finding employee's don't want to come back thanks to the government's beefed up benefits. thanks for joining us tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> i have to admit. i am love with your food porn. it looks so tasty.
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what are you trying to navigate coming out of the lockdowns to get people back into work and get your business back upright after a period of time in which people were not able to come out and get that food? >> yes. i have to say a lot of viewers will be happier if high face was a double decker sandwich. first you have the consumer psychology. that's been crushed. people are afraid to go out. there is a lot of fear mongering continue to go on in california. we are only opened 50% indoors. and a lot of employees, they
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don't want to work. i would do the same if i was a young college student and got paid to read backs and education myself. restaurants have been vilified for a year. restaurants are the placees where we can model the right times of behavior. we have been at the forefront of doing that. we could have been used in a different way by people making decisions that should we should locked down or restaurants are super spreaders. >> you are frustrated by some things governor gavin newsom has done. do you feel like you are cocaine ing -- coming out of that period? and will there be recriminations across the country? >> going into the pandemic newsom had the majority of
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support. now the recall effort is being successful. that's small business owners who watched their businesses get crushed by decisions that don't have data backing it. specifically the ban on outdoor dining around the holidays. it was never proven that outdoor dining was the vector of a spread. half a mile down the road, there was a wal-mart where people were piled on top of each other playing naked twister without masks. >> what is on the menu for dinner tonight? >> i think in honor of this great event being on your show, the surf and turf burger. angus beef and lobster. >> that sounds great. thanks for watching fox news prime time. we will be back tomorrow night
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at 7. be lovers of freedom. tucker carlson is up next. >> ♪ ♪ >> ♪ ♪ >> tucker: welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." oh the drama. the chauvin trial is over. officer derek chauvin was convicted yesterday on all count. the trial went on for more than a month and the testimony was complex and technical. at the center of the case there was one piece of relevant evidence. it was a videotape of george floyd's death in the street of minneapolis. if you have not seen the tape recently, it's every bit as shocking as the day it was shot. you can see that george floyd knows on some level

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