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>> oh, uncle leo, we love you. we love all of you here. thank you so much and thank you so much for watching at home. now here is "america reports." ♪ ♪ >> john: thank you so much. fox news alert out of minnesota. attorney general announcing the department of justice will investigate the minneapolis police department. this in the wake of the convention of four minneapolis police officer derek shelving. this is america reports. high again, sandra. >> good to be with you. i am sandra smith in new york. this is america reports. celebration it was yesterday in minneapolis after derek showed them was found guilty of murder in the death of george floyd. the former police officer will be sentenced in about eight weeks. already, critics are possible grounds for an appeal.
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meanwhile, the attorney general is pledging a closer look at police department tactics in . >> the investigation i am announcing today will assess whether the minneapolis police department engages in a pattern or practice of using excessive force, including during protests. the investigation will also assess whether the mpd engages in discriminatory conduct and whether it's treatment of those with behavioral health disabilities is unlawful. >> fox team coverage today. former d.c., homicide detectives joined us. the debbie police shooting of a teen in ohio. we begin with matt finn. he is live in minneapolis with the latest from there. >> this is where everything in the george floyd story began, 38th and chicago. the jury convicted derek shelving of murdering
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george floyd right here in the street. so far today, there has been increasing traffic. people of all ages. this is a place of celebration yesterday. the intersection is known as george floyd square. one of the first things the floyd family attorney did was praise the activists not have made the space for the past year. it has become an autonomous zone. there has been a spike in crime here. even a fatal shooting. police and the mayor insists this intersection has got to be open soon. the floyd family said god answered their prayers with a guilty verdict. here is a floyd family attorney vowing to keep fighting. >> make no mistake. we are not done. the george floyd policing and reform act must pass the senate. we now know that today police can and will be held accountable. >> and there are three other
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officers charged with aiding and abetting derek show than in the murder. they are scheduled to go to trial later this summer. >> john: matt, thanks so much. sandra? >> sandra: minutes before the verdict was announced yesterday, a police officer and columbus, ohio, shot and killed a black teenage girl holding a knife. body cam video capturing that moment as that happened shows that girl charging at two people with a knife. garrett is following this from chicago. steak out this is a case that shows why body cameras are so important. initially, folks at the scene claims that the cops shot an unarmed 16-year-old girl, which prompted a large crowd of protesters. we do want to warn the race at this body camera video is hard to watch, but according to police around 4:30 p.m., someone called 911 and said a group of girls was trying to stab him.
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the body camera video show some sort of commotion going on in a driveway. just after the officer asked what is going on? a girl, who the family has identified a 16-year-old ma'khia bryant, pushes any other girl to the 12 and goes after a second girl, pushing against the side of a car. when ma'khia bryant raises her right hand in the air, you can see she appears to be holding a knife. before she can stab the other girl, the officer fired several shots. other officers then jumped in to try to save her life, that she died a short time later at the hospital. the ohio bureau of criminal investigation is now looking into that shooting and city leaders are calling for patients and calm while that process plays out. >> our city deserves answers. i want answers. but fast, quick answers cannot come at the cost of accurate
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answers. >> after that video was released, protests did die down a bit last night. we are expecting to have some more information and details released later today. we are told they took a day by police at that now on administrative lead -- or administered of duty rather while this investigation plays out. >> john: thank you. john? >> john: let's bring in ted williams. a lot to get to, let's start with the top story. the fact that merrick garland says the department of justice will be launching a full-scale investigation into possible systemic policing issues at the minneapolis police department. we are all wondering, is this a case of a rogue officer, or does this go deeper? your thoughts. >> hi, john. happy to be with you and the audience. i have got to tell you that
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these kinds of investigations are conducted. they are customarily done. i can tell you during the trump administration that there was one of these investigations. within the obama administration, there were approximately 25 of them. ferguson was one of these investigations. washington, d.c., has had this kind of an investigation. baltimore has had this kind of an investigation. this is really not out of the ordinary, john. it's the one we heard this word "systemic" around yesterday. yesterday it was president biden saying that the united states is a nation of systemic racism. let's see what he said earlier today. >> president biden: it ripped the blinders off of the whole world to see the systemic racism that the vice president just referred to. the systemic racism is a stain on our nation's soul. >> did if somebody asked
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joe biden or kamala harris to name the city, state, governor, or systemic racism exists. it is democratic kool-aid. >> john: i know that you differ from time to time, but do you condemn this idea of the united states as a nation of systemic racism? >> you know, the united states unfortunately has had a history of racism. it exists. i think the problem is we look at racism in a white-black kind of manner. i got to tell you. there are black cops who also have racial animus, and there are white cops. when you look at systemic racism, age does exist. the only thing we can do is to try and some stage in our lifetime to block that out.
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>> john: topic number two, this is the shooting of the teenager in columbus, ohio, that occurred just before the verdict came down yesterday. when we look at that body cam video, it appears that the young woman is trying to stab another girl on the hood of a car. that is when the officer opens fire. is that the appropriate way to handle this? could this have been handled in a different way? >> no. try to remember police officers have to make quick, split-second decisions. what happened here is a law enforcement officer comes on the scene and sees another teenager about to be stabbed. an officer can use deadly force to protect another person from being harmed. that is what took place in this. it is unfortunate, but i am so, so happy for two things.
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one, that they had the body worn camera, and two, that they released it into the community right away so the community could see what was going on. >> john: i heard earlier today that you believe this was a justified shooting. here is the narrative that is beginning to emerge across the country. "a black teenage girl named ma'khia bryant was killed because a police officer immediately decided to shoot her multiple times in order to break up a knife fight. to demand accountability. fight for justice." no response. >> that is just irresponsible. we are out here in the public forum, many of us. ms. jared and others have a public platform. until they know everything that took place, i would ask that they not speak out because it is irresponsible to have the public
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up in arms about something that didn't happen in the manner in which they are reporting. it is irresponsible. i take exception to that. >> john: it has been great to have you got there in minneapolis. thanks for joining this afternoon. i appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> john: sandra, when you see the different narratives about the shooting in columbus, ohio, already luminaries like valerie jarrett, they are casting their verdict on what happened. maybe we should wait a little bit before deciding what went down? >> sandra: we saw a lot of criticism heaped on nancy pelosi as well for her comments thanking george floyd for sacrificing his life for justice. those are being billed as tone-deaf. i lied look at the white house now. we will see president biden talk about his administration's to
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the pandemic. your member that the feds pause the johnson & johnson chart. they may get an update from the administration on that. we are also expecting to hear from president biden on a push for workers to get paid time off so that they can get a vaccine. we are going to go live to the white house and we will bring in his remarks live. >> john: ahead of the verdict and the generic of an trial, hundreds of national guard had to washington, d.c. >> sandra: the crisis at the board or worsened by the day. the governor of arizona with some strong words and now sending the national guard troops there. he declares an emergency. he says securing the border is not a state but a federal responsibility. got a lot to say on that. he will join his life next. >> i have never seen such a
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terrible example of leadership. this is a national security crisis. this is a humanitarian crisis. they need to come up with a plan. ♪ ♪ lets you refinance at near record lows plus get cash. with home values climbing, now is the smartest time ever to turn your home's increased value into an average of $50,000 cash. refiplus. it's new, it's only for veterans, and it's only from newday usa.
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♪ ♪ >> sandra: new developments in the christian smart case. they have evidence to show that her body was recently moved from the bottom of the home accused of killing her. she went missing 25 years ago and she was a college freshman in california. her body has never been found. on monday, 44-year-old paul florez was charged with first-degree murder in this case. his father was also charged as an accessory accused of hiding her body. both men pleading not guilty. >> john: a fox news exclusive now.
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hundreds of national guard troops have been deployed against washington, d.c. but they are prohibited from carrying any weapons or arms whatsoever. gillian turner live in washington now with more. this is a much different posture than we saw back after january 6. >> it is, but nobody knew that it was going to turn out this way until yesterday. fox news has learned everything with exclusive access to internal government communications that muriel bowser has requested hundreds of national guard troops fanned out across the city to protect the streets. as i have asked that they be unarmed. no weapons, no guns whatsoever. last night, fox news obtained in response to bowser's request.
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he confirmed that the d.c. national guard will not be unarmed for the support mission. they may be equipped with safety events and lighted traffic once but only as requested by the np. even as bowser publicly admitted earlier this week that the severity of the threat the nation's capital in vain. >> chief conti has also put our police force on 12-hour shifts, which enhances our response capabilities. >> multiple sources in the national guard to tell fox news today the troops are outraged by this request. they fear it puts them in harm's way without adequate means of self-defense. one even compares this assignment to serving as boy scouts with reflective vest. the one jillian, thank you so much. when you put troops out there without any kind of
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self-defense, you are potentially setting them up for a problem where if they begin to get overrun, they've got no way to defend themselves. stated yeah, her reporting is great on this. sources telling her that members of the national guard are absolutely outraged over this. i am sure they are going to see a lot more about this when it comes in. >> local law enforcement and mayors are calling out for help. citizens and our border communities are concerned for their safety, and nonprofits are left to pick up the pieces of broken federal policies. yet we still haven't received inadequate response from the biden administration. it is clear that they have no plan. they cannot even agree over whether this is a crisis or not. speech is that is arizona's governor they are obviously very frustrated now declaring a state of emergency and four candies at the border. he is applying the national guard to help handle
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the crisis. take a look at the numbers. border patrol encountered more than 70,000 migrants last month. encounters are at over 168,000 last month. neither president biden nor vice president harris has visited the border. of course, we do know that kamala harris is planning a trip at some times to address the crisis. it certainly doesn't involve the border, and we don't even know when that is going to take place. but how much longer can this administration ignore the crisis, and if they are not ignoring it, turn a blind eye to it? >> they certainly are. governor ducey had to declare an emergency at the border because joe biden won't admit there is an emergency. as you pointed out, there are 178,000 detentions at the border last month. that is a 15 year record. there were almost 19,000 unaccompanied minors that were detained. that is a 93% increase over the
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previous one month record. this is an emergency. the first thing that joe biden did in january 28th as he revoked president trump's emergency declaration at the border. he can't restore the emergency declaration or admit that it is an emergency without admitting that donald trump is right. as a result, you have the state of inner arizona spending $25 million of it's money. operation lone star sending troops to the border. these are federal responsibilities, but this federal government is not beating them. >> sandra: you get the frustration in his voice when he was speaking there. he says the numbers speak for themselves. we do shall he be encounters in december and march. these are the encounters at arizona's tucson and yuma sectors. when you look at the clear comparison here, this is the story, mark, you look at what is
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now 101,000 encounters over that period dating back in 2020 october to march period, 39,000. that is 157% increase, but this is an administration that wants to talk about words and terminology when it comes to addressing this. they now say that aliens have to be noncitizens. illegals have to be undocumented. assimilation is now integration. you need to watch how you address this crisis with terminology, says a biden administration. >> yeah, they are more concerned with what we call illegal migrants from stopping illegal migrants. that is the problem. this is why vice president harris doesn't want to call a press conference. she might fit the asked a tough question. she might be asked haven't your policies been the cause of this? why did you do a suspension of deportation? why did you suspend as remaining in mexico policy whereby people
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who don't have asylum claims have to remain in mexico. why did you suspend the diplomacy that the trump administration did with guatemala and honduras? faith third country agreements. all of this has created a magnet at the border. why are you doing this? how are you going to fix it? she can't answer those questions, so she is not going to talk to the press. >> sandra: messaging is so important. this is the number of days that kamala harris has been made that borders are, if you will. you have heard jim jordan hammering on this. where is she? the number of days without holding one, 28. would it help for her to step in front of a microphone, acknowledge the crisis, how far would not go in addressing this crisis not just with those border communities that are clearly struggling, but with the american people who want some
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clarity on this? >> can you imagine if, in the previous administration, vice president mike pence, who was put in charge of the response of the covid pandemic went so long? people would have been angry and the media for not having access to the person in charge. vice president harris does not feel the need to go to the border or go to any of these countries where these things are coming from. she promises that you will, but no plans have been announced. or answer questions from the press. they question she has to answer is isn't this going to undermine your goal at getting comprehensive immigration reform? the prerequisite for any kind of compromise is a secure border. by undoing all of trump's policies, you are undermining your own agenda. why is that? >> sandra: that's a good point. i like the new set up. i like the fancy chair.
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thank you so much. >> thank you. stay to the numbers speak for themselves. we showed you the numbers. d.c. went on though and he did not mince words. he very specifically placed responsibility on the biden administration. it is a direct response of that policy coming out of washington, d.c. they have a lot of tarmac on their hands down there. >> john: the issue of the border has been declining in terms of use coverage. it may be that that that the folks across the street are trying to run at the clock here. he said a lot of people don't know what is happening here because you're not seeing media coverage. >> john: exactly. i think they may be waiting for it all to slowly decline and maybe even galloway as they continue to work on their policies and change things around. we will see. president biden expected to speak soon about progress and vaccinations in the fight against coronavirus as we get
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word of a new development on the johnson & johnson vaccine. we will have that for you. >> sandra: all right. we anticipate that. plus the president not mincing words about the direction of an verdict. are democrats stirring the pot? the panel weighs in on that just ahead. ♪ ♪ >> we have a party that is using everything to divide it. marxism loves chaos. that is what they did in russia. ♪ ♪
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>> hi, sandra. the president and the next few moments is going to call on businesses to get paid time off to workers in order to get a covid-19 vaccine. to help the businesses -- small businesses -- pick up the tab, employers will be offered a tax credit. today, more than 133 million americans have been given one shop and only 3% of working adults have been vaccinated. friday, ac/dc advisory panel is reported to meet regarding the johnson & johnson vaccine. european health regulators has the benefit of the johnson & johnson chart outweigh the risks, but as a precaution, he is recommending that a new label be added on the package to describe the potential side effects as well as treatment. it is going to resume the use of thought single shot vaccine today and france has it is going start next week. as i just indicated, a significant advantage of the
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johnson & johnson chart compared to some of the other vaccines that are available, it only requires a single dose. sandra? >> sandra: okay. thank you. that has been the reason why many have said i am searching for a vaccine appointment where i can get the john jay. a lot of people were looking for that. there is questions about how this pause will impact people's perceptions of getting the vaccine in the first place. >> john: as we saw yesterday, the results were counterintuitive. it actually increased people's confidence. >> sandra: they told them that the agencies will be able to process if they thought anything suspicious. encourage confidence. >> john: hey, sandra, president biden and vice president harris praising the conviction yesterday. the president calling it a giant step and then march toward justice for a nation still dealing with systemic racism.
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>> president biden: in order to deliver real change and reform, we can and we must do more. this takes acknowledging and confronting head on systemic racism and the racial disparities that exist in policing and in our criminal justice system more broadly. >> john: let's bring in our panel. guy bensen is a fox news contributor. richard fowler is a fox news contributor. this idea of systemic racism that the president and vice president pointed to. is this a case of systemic racism, or resist just just one bad cop? >> i think it is a case of systemic racism when he think about the fact that it happened. he read the press release that was released by the minneapolis police department. today, i want to focus on the fact that we have hope. today, there seems to be some bipartisan conversations between
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tim scott, moving forward the policing bill and actually creating real police reform in the country. >> john: where you come down on this? >> i am in support of law enforcement and also in support of police reform. i think you can say there are problematic practices and racist people without saying we are systemically racist country. i think attacking the country broadly with that indictment turns a lot of people off and does not add to a constructive conversation about what can be done on a bipartisan cross ideological basis. >> john: let's see what leo terrel said about it earlier today. >> when the question was asked about systemic racism, where is it? naming the town and city. they won't answer that question because it does not exist. systemic discrimination does not exist in this great country. that is a lie. >> john: he says his systemic
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racism does not exist in this country. it is merely a card that democrats play to shut republicans up. what do you say? >> lesson, he says a lot of things. let's talk about the facts and figures. we know a couple of things. let's just take women dying in childbirth. african-american women are 5.2 times more likely to die than their white counterparts. we saw in covid-19 where african-americans were disproportionately dying. it is happening all around us, but he is right. it doesn't mean that an individual person is racist. and if they have an institutional problem that we can work together and address if we are willing to acknowledge them. >> i think it is the other way around, actually. i think that there are racist people, not a racist country. i don't think we are a racist country. we have ongoing flaws and shameful parts of our history. let's try to improve them for sure. to trying to build a nationwide
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conversation has impacted negatively telling the whole country that we are collectively systemically racist. i think that that is unfair and an overstatement. >> john: just a short time ago, jen psaki was asked to address the shooting in ohio, to which she answered just as america's hopeful of a step forward after the exhausting trial, so our focus is willing to address systemic racism. again, attaching systemic racism to the shooting in ohio. the tragic shooting of a teenager 16 years old. but she did appear to have a knife in her hand and was trying to stab somebody. >> look, i think we have to take this on a case-by-case basis. where i disagree with god is for us to sit here and say that there aren't flaws in our syste. our health care system our banking system. that has disproportionately impact people of carruthers. we are having the broad -- we
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can work together to solve them if we are willing to acknowledge we have a problem. it doesn't send the whole country is racist, but there are parts of our system that are indeed racist. >> john: maybe there are flaws in the system. but to use a broad system like systemic racism, is that not casting a net across the entire question down that country? >> exactly. i don't think anyone is saying flawless when it comes from the united states of america. i have to say about that quote from jen psaki to try to tie what happened in ohio into the george floyd situation and make it about racism. she also use the term police violence. based on the video that i saw, there was a young woman attempting to stab another black woman. and the police intervened. if we are going to lump that ended the same category of police violence and bring racism into it, i think that is fanning the flames and not actually being remotely responsible.
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>> john: we should point out an investigation is being undertaken in columbus on that shooting. our ted williams fox news contributor believes that was a justified shooting. we will see what they come up with. guy bensen, richard fowler. always great to see you. >> sandra: remarks from speaker nancy pelosi and top house democrats ahead of tomorrow's young vote on washington, d.c., statehood. their news conference is just moments away. we are watching for that. they want small businesses still struggling. why companies can't find workers even with millions of americans unemployed. >> i have really few applications that even people who don't show up for the interview. so it is a hard time for the small businesses. ♪ ♪ ners. with home values high and mortgage rates at near record lows. great news for veterans
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>> john: queen elizabeth turns 95 years of age today nsr says that queen will never abdicate the throne even after the loss of her husband next month. prince philip skinner was last week. the passing of her has been of more than 70 years reported they won't stop her from fulfilling her duties as the longest reigning monarch in british history. can you imagine? 95 years old and still going strong. it's amazing. see what you know i love all things royal. i'm not going anywhere she says. she deserves it. she has done a lot. >> and charles as they are going come, mom. >> sandra: that's funny. thank you, john. unemployment still remains higher than the pandemic but yet many small businesses can't find the help they need. in fact, a record has job openings that they can't fail. why are businesses struggling to hire when there are still
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millions of americans that are out of work. charlie gasparino, as i mentioned. by the way, welcome back into the building, sir. we are awaiting the president, by the way. but why are the companies struggling to hire? what is happening? >> there are places where there is a need for employment. there are places where people can't get jobs. new york city is still largely shut down. parts of it are open. there are places that are opening dramatically. wall street is starting to open soon. the new york stock exchange is finally going to allow media back on the floor. stay to wow. media has a bigger presence there. >> sandra: they can't get traders to come back to the floor. think about that. >> sandra: an interesting story. a lot of this is stimulus checks. a lot of people have an influx of cash into their bank
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accounts. in some cases, it is better for them to stay home then look for a job. >> people are scared. there is still the fear out there. if you can make it on a stimulus checks, why open yourself up to being infected? there are clearly places that are open and in need of business. if you go to florida, the restaurant industry is booming. if you go to new york city, restaurants are still not open. speaking on that note, this is in upstate new york restaurant owner on hiring problems. the governments are making it easy for people to stay home and get paid. you can't blame them much, but it means we have hours to fill and we can't fill them. taco bell opened a fully automated restaurant in times square. that is because they are afraid of the hike in federal minimum wage, but they said they have been trying to hire 5,000 workers, and haven't been able to. >> look at wage rates. they have not gone down.
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they have gone up. they did the president is speaking live at the right has now. go there. >> president biden: today, we hit 200 million shots in my 92nd stay in office. 200 million shots in 100 days -- under 100 days, actually. it is an incredible achievement for the nation, and here's the context. at the pace we are meeting when i took office, it would have taken us more than 220 days, almost 7.5 months to reach 200 million shots. instead of marking this milestone in april, we would not have seen it until early september at the earliest. some experts say that our rapid vaccination effort has already saved tens of thousands of american alliance. we will never know exactly, but we know it has saved lives. lives that would have otherwise been lost. i am proud of the work that my administration has done to get
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americans vaccinated. more than that, i am proud of the american people. the volunteers that showed up to staff vaccination sites in their neighborhoods, senior citizens to get their shots, fema, the military, the national guard, state and local health departments, providers, running sites safely and efficiently. retired health care workers coming back to give life-saving shots to people in their communities. this is an american achievement. a powerful demonstration of unity and resolve -- what unity will do for us. a reminder of what we can accomplish when we pulled together as one people to a common goal. now that we have reached this milestone, we are entering a new phase of our vaccination efforts. as of monday at my direction, with the support of 50 governors, democrats and republicans alike, everyone over the age of 16 will be eligible
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to get vaccinated. the first three months of our vaccination programs focused on targeting vaccines to specific high risk groups. now our objective is to reach everyone, everyone over the age of 16 in america. wherever you land, whatever your circumstances, if you are 16 or older, you are now eligible for a free covid vaccine shot. and we have the vaccine to deliver. we had into this next phase. it is important for us to look at where we stand. after three months of targeting vaccinations largely to health care workers, front-line workers, and people with high risk conditions. nursing home residents and seniors, the progress we have made has been studying. let me point out a few achievements. first, as of this past sunday, more than 50% of adult americans have had at least one vaccine
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shot. we still have a long way to go, like that is an important marker of progress. when it comes to our target groups, the largest greatly focused on in these past 92 days have been seniors. americans age 65 and older. they account for 80% of all of the covid that before we started vaccinating. when i took office, 8% of the people over 65 had received their first child. i am pleased to announce that by tomorrow, that total will exceed 80% 80% of american seniors of all races, religions, political views, will have had at least one shot. it will be another month or so the four received the full benefits of this effort. as many seniors tell me the second shot plus the two weeks to gain that protection after the second shot. already we have seen a dramatic
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decline in deaths among the people over the age 65. an 80% reduction. still far too many debts but also a lot of lives saved. in the weeks ahead, has more seniors reach full vaccination, that number of lives lost will continue to decrease. we may gain progress as an argument or target group as well. educators and school staff and bus drivers and child care workers. back in february, when many of our schools were fully or partially close, the centers for disease control and prevention issued guidelines to help reopen our school safely. in march, congress approved the american rescue plan. one thing was clear. many educators are understandably anxious about going back to the classroom
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without being vaccinated. and many parents were understandably nervous about sending their kids back as well. on march 2nd, i launched a program to make educators, school staff, bus drivers, child care workers, eligible for vaccination in every state to sothat schools and child care centers could open. to be clear, we still have some work to do with our target groups. we have made remarkable progress. as we continue, as i said, that time is now to open up a new phase of this historic vaccination effort. to put it simply, if you have been waiting for your turn, wait no longer. now is the time for everyone over 16 years of age to get
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vaccinated. unlike the target groups, where we made such great progress, a broad swath of american adults still remain largely in vaccinated. in a number of states, they weren't eligible for the vaccination until this week. too many younger americans may still think they don't need to get vaccinated. so let me explain to the reasons why we need everyone over 16 years of age in america to get vaccinated. and share what we are going to do to encourage it. first reason quite simply is to keep you from getting very sick or dying. hundreds of americans are still dying from covid every day. the data could not be clearer at this point. if you are fully vaccinated two weeks behind your last shot, you are nearly 100% protected against death from covid. no matter what your age, no matter what your health history is, until you are fully
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vaccinated, you are still vulnerable. the vaccine can save your life. the second reason to get vaccinated is to protect your community, your family, your friends, and your neighbors. vaccines can save your own life, but they can also save your grandmother's life, your coworkers life, your grocery store clerks, or the delivery person, helping you and your neighbors get through the crisis. now, that is why you should get vaccinated. let me talk about how we are going to make it easier for you to be able to get vaccinated. first, through some steps i announced previously that are hitting the ground this week. 90% of the american people now that is within 5 miles as a place where they can get a shot. under our federal vaccination program, shots will be available at nearly 40,000 pharmacies coast to coast.
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if you can go into a busy shop to buy your shampoo or toothpaste, you can stop and get vaccinated. the vaccine is free. it is convenient. and it is increasingly available. i know that isn't enough. as we move into the vaccination campaign focusing on working age adults, one concern i have heard from so many americans is that they can't afford to take the time off to get vaccinated or abuse at day's work because they have been feeling under the weather after the shot. today i am announcing a program to address that issue nationwide. i am calling on every employer, large and small, in every state, to give employees a time off they need with pay to get vaccinated. any time they with pay to recover if they are feeling under the weather after the shot. no working american should lose
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a single dollar from their paychecks because they chose to fulfill their patriotic duty of getting vaccinated. we are already seeing employers large and small stepping up to meet this moment. the grocery store kruger's offered employees $100 to get vaccinated. it helps push the vaccination rate from 50% to 75% among their associates. patti young owns a hair salon in springfield, ohio. she has also dedicated getting her customers and employees vaccinated. when they leave the salon, receptionists -- and maybe going to a saloon, i don't know -- when they leave the salon, the receptionist helps sign you and your family have to get a covid vaccine and where to get it. they had scheduled more than 200 shot so far. businesses and employers like patty should be supported for
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doing the right thing. so to make sure this policy comes at no cost to small or medium-sized businesses with fewer than 500 employees, the irs is toasting instructions for how employers can get reimbursed for the cost of providing paid leave for employees to get vaccinated and recover from the side effects if they have any. that reimbursement, which comes through a tax payment, is thanks to a program i launched in the american rescue plan. again, every employee should get paid leave to get a shot. businesses should know that they can provide it without a hitch to their bottom line. there is no excuse for not getting it done. in the weeks ahead, i will have more to say about other new developments in our vaccine program. we will also continue moving aggressively to build our progress and race to the finish
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line. let me close with this. back in march 11th, i outlined a vision of what america could look like by the fourth of july. america, that was much closer to normal life and we left behind a year ago. we remain on track for that goal. in the weeks since then, more than 120 million shots have been given since i announced that. more of our kids are back in school, and after a long and painful year, more grandparents are able to hug their grandkids again. it is great progress. but if we let up now, and stop being vigilant, this virus will erase the progress we have already achieved. the sacrifices we have made, the lies that have been put on hold, the loved ones who have been taken from us. the time we are never going to get back. to celebrate our independence
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from this virus on july 4th, with family and friends in small groups, we still have more to do in the months of may and june. we all need to mask up until the number of cases goes down, until everyone has a chance to get the shot. two americans 16 years and older, it is your turn now. so go get your vaccine before the end of me. we can do this. and we will do this as long as we don't let up. thank you all very much. as i said a long time ago, we are going to beat this as long as we do it together. i want to again thank my covid's team. i want to thank the vice president. i want to thank jeff zients behind me and the entire for putting this together. may god protect our troops, and may god bless you all. thank you. thank you. >> john: president biden there was a big announcement.
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he is taking a question here i think. >> president biden: not yet -- you asked about what about helping abroad? we are in the process of doing that. we have done a little bit about already. we are looking at what is going to be done with some of the vaccines that we are not using. we have to make sure they are safe to be sent. and we hope to be able to be of some help and value to countries around the world. i talked to our neighbors. as a matter of fact, a fellow working really hard to take care of his country and to deal with this. i was on the phone with him about a half an hour a day. the prime minister of canada we helped a little bit there, and we are going to try to help some more. but there are other countries as well that i am confident we can help including in central america.
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it is in process. we don't have enough to be confident to give it to send it abroad now. i expect we are going to be able to do that. thank you. >> john: it looks like that is the only question that he is going to take. he is looking at sending vaccine doses overseas, particularly to canada, which is having a real problem getting enough vaccine for everybody in the country. took a really big announcements. everybody over the age of 16 is not eligible and he is encouraging employees to give people time off not just to get vaccine but to recover from it as well saying that they can be reimbursed in terms of a tax credit for them allowing their employees to do that. >> sandra: 200 million shots and 100 days. there has been a decline in deaths among the 65 and older. 50% of all americans have received that first shot as we have been reporting. what really stood out to me as you heard right towards the end, when we were all wondering about
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this return to normal, when he said it is still time to wear your masks. mask up. he said until everyone has a chance to get there vaccine. that was a really interesting comments to hear from him now knowing that half of the population has gotten the first dose and everyone eligible 16 and older to get the vaccine. what does the time i look like i wonder for him to eventually say masks aren't needed? >> john: it could be that july . i'm not sure. why don't we bring in dr. mike siegel. he probably has a better idea on all of this. first of all, your thoughts on everybody over the age of 16 being allowed to get it and how much getting employees time off to not only get the vaccine but potentially recover without losing pay. could not improve vaccine compliance? >> i will start with the second point. the society for the resource
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human management did a study that one quarter of all employees said they would get the vaccine, but they can't get time off from work. so i am hoping that this handles that point directly. that one quarter will now be paid, and they will be able to go out and get the shot. the first point that he is going to try to make sure that there is enough vaccine for everybody over the age of 16 to get it. by the way, 16 to 18, it's got to be the pfizer shot. his other point that 90% of the shots are within 5 miles a veterans home. that is very encouraging, and that i think is where we need to go. 50% of the u.s. population will have had one shot probably by next week. the other thing pointed out that was encouraging is that over the age of 65, 80% of americans have had one shot. the death rate is down by 80%. all of this is going in the right direction. he did not talk about the johnson & johnson vaccine and
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what is going to be happening with that. that is concerning to doctors like me who need that shot in our offices, where we can have a one-to-one with our patience. as you know, the fda was saying look, the plant where you are making that vaccine has contamination issues. the johnson & johnson is still a big question mark right now. but the idea getting more and more vaccines into more and more arms. if it occurs, i agree he might say masks off by july 4th, especially out-of-doors. when you are vaccinated, your risk of spreading this is close to zero. the key that depends who you talk to about that return to normal. people in texas and florida may already see that not as much mask wearing. that was interesting though. still time to mask up until everybody has a chance to get that for a shot. i just wonder if you believe this encouragement to get a day
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off to go get the vaccine hopefully that leads to another spike and is getting vaccinated? or do you think it is going to slow down the pace by which we have seen americans going out for their first job? speak the first all to your first point, i only see mask wearing once you have been vaccinated as indoors because shopkeepers can't keep town who has been vaccinated and who hasn't. the other point about vaccine noncompliance, i am really concerned about that. one thing he didn't touch about is there are 60 million doses floating out there that haven't been given to people. i don't totally agree with frank, although he is a great poster. i am more worried that they over message the risk of a headache when it is a one and a million risk with the johnson & johnson vaccine. we have got to be careful about how a message this. i would say that these are among the safest we have ever seen and we didn't know they are going to be nearly as effective. again, it comes down to a one-on-one discussion.
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a shopkeeper or a doctor or a nurse or that you see your friend getting it. someone that you believe they would do the smart thing and it is your turn. right now, we are going to be facing noncompliance. i'm concerned about it. >> john: dr. siegel, we appreciate a free medical advice. great to see you as well. thanks. stated he didn't notice, we are at the top of any lower. something new at two. we are going to look beyond the chosen picture. race in america admitting beyond the mistakes from our nation's past. good afternoon. it is wednesday. i am sandra smith. hi, john. stay one high, sandra. this is just the start of america's struggle against systemic racism. a huge segment of our country, that very notion is flat-out offensive. critics say that local culture is actually deepening the racial divide.
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listen here. >> vice president harris: america has a long history of systemic racism. >> president biden: the vice president just referred to systemic racism. >> racism is an inherent problem. >> people don't see it, and it is right in front of us. >> i am so pleased about this verdict today. no matter the criticism that i get, no matter the judge he went off about that -- don't wait for legislation. >> this is injustice. this doesn't end until we address the masses systemic institutional racism in the united states. >> true justice will not come until we finally banish the ancient plays in racism from the american soul. >> john: the biden white has wants that message that the united states is inherently and
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systemically racist directly in classrooms from coast to coast. still that it will be here to respond to that. >> sandra: we are looking forward to having him on the show. at the same time, lawmakers on injecting the issue of race into hot button political issues. that includes president biden calling georgia lawmakers -- among those who want supported the row that now call it racist, here are some of them. senate majority leader chuck schumer, president biden, even former president barack obama, who back in 2005 passionately defended the filibuster in his speech on the senate floor. >> race is becoming such a touchy topic that decade-old tweets can add careers. it stopped publication of dr. seuss books after more than 80 years of being in print. an example that is making
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headlines, some real estate groups are banning the term master bedroom from listings just in case people find that once common term offensive. we're going to talk about that this hour. "america reports" reports on race. >> sandra: congressman, good afternoon. great to have you here. first, your response to everything you interviewers just heard. >> actually, when you are discussing it, i chuckled. this is a serious topic. when you have a realtor is trying to get rid of the term master bedroom, that is when you have gone off the deep end. that's been clear about a couple of things. number one, jill biden, kamala harris, and the democrats, are using these inflection points as a tool to push their political agenda. notice what they are saying. they are saying this is a thing that we have to work hard to fix. the only tools for fixing it in their mind is their agenda. that's be clear about what is
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happening here. number two, the bill they are calling for, that george floyd justice reform act, that they'll do something that would destroy law enforcement all across the united states. it would get rid of qualified immunity. but that would do this but actually for his good officers to leave the police force. they wouldn't want to put their families on the line for what may happen in the line of duty, and they would leave the forest. you will be with less cops and you will be left with bad cops on the police force at that bill became law. just to show how pathetic their logic is, there was a bill that would reform policing in america. it was going to be moved through the senate by senator tim scott, and kamala harris and cory booker, who now derive the filibuster is racist, they use that very same filibuster last year to stop ten scottsdale -- greg reform in america. they won was in jim crow last year, but it is this year. he mentioned getting rid of qualified immunity.
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and last year, have basically done that. i want to and remind you that something that nancy pelosi said yesterday that struck people as odd. >> thank you, george floyd. for sacrificing your life for justice. being fair to call abby to her mom -- how heartbreaking was that -- comment to your mom. i can't breathe. because of you and because of thousands and millions of people around the world who came out for justice, your name will always be synonymous with justice. and now we have to make sure justice prevails and ascended thing. they want what did you think of what the speaker said there? it's not like he was given a choice. he was murdered. >> absolutely disgusting. absolutely despicable. proof positive that the only thing nancy pelosi wants us to
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pass her agenda. i know i keep going back to the same point, but that is exactly what is at stake right now. they don't care about what happened yesterday. they couldn't wait to get past the verdict. once the verdict came in, they are poised to use it to springboard into the thing that is what they truly want. it is disgusting for the speaker to do that. for george floyd's family, i know quite frankly they feel that they have justice in this case. there is a sense of relief across the united states. but to take that and jump into what your agenda is going to be is disrespectful not only had his life but of his family. and it is disgusting to the american people. we need to take a moment to look at the fact that yes, derek shut up and was punished, and he should have been. how are you going to move out. are we going to allow politicians to weaponize all of these issues against us, or are we going to come together as americans to be a more perfect
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union? that is what we should be taking, not my nancy pelosi wants to do. >> sandra: such an important question in an important point. brooklyn, new york, congressman where they were some blm protesters who showed up at a restaurant and you will see and hear. >> we don't want you here. >> we don't want to hear. >> sandra: they decided to disrupt diners that were sitting peacefully eating their meals outside and protest standing on chairs. this is a scene that played out here in new york city on tuesday. as far as your point about how we move forward as a country, what can be done to bring calm? stake of the first thing is we need to stop all of this rhetoric coming from elected officials. what maxine waters did in brooklyn center over the weekend was atrocious. what is even more atrocious is the fact that democrats couldn't even find the moral high ground
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to hold one of their own members accountable. that is number one. number two, americans, please listen to me. stop listening to elected officials and other people who want to create a platform out of the real tragedies that exist in america. what happened to george floyd was a tragedy. but don't let people use your anger to further their agenda or further their items. that is what you are seeing with that blm protest going on in brooklyn, new york. that is what we've got to get away from. we have to be able to think for ourselves. do these issues for ourselves and not get caught up in any of these divisive moments after the fact. what happened there, how is not going to help the people in that diner? how does that help the fabric of our country move forward? the answer as it does not. we have to focus on the fact that we are in our communities and charges, we are at the supermarket, when we are at our jobs, there are people from all races they are, and we all get along.
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that is what we got to remember when we move forward. they won that particular restaurant is owned by a fellow name's daniel nasser, and it employs a lot of hispanic individuals. so i'm not quite sure who they were protesting. he said don't listen to people in politics or maybe it is associated with them. that's put up this tweet from valerie jarrett, romer chief advisor to president barack obama about this shooting. it was a tragic shooting because a young woman is dead, but she was armed with a knife and was apparently trying to stab somebody. valerie jarrett wrote "a black teenage girl named ma'khia bryant was killed because a police officer immediately decided to shoot her multiple times in order to break up a knife fight. "this was a person who is trying to stab people. >> i am familiar with the issue. the purpose of a police officer is to protect lives. that is with a job it is. that's the very clear. the landlady that she was trying to stab, i am quite sure she is
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happy that the police studying. i'm quite sure her family is happy. but we can't let somebody like valerie jarrett look at a picture or a little bit of footage and say oh, that is excessive because she only had a knife. no, if you are going to harm another human being, law enforcement is going to step in. and they should step in if they are at the same. they should not be in the stands right now they have to wait because the first thing they need to get a scan around and see if people have cell phone cameras. everybody has them. and then try to figure out how are my actions going to be played going forward? law enforcement needs to be supported to do their job. are there reforms that need to happen? yes. i support that. those are things that we could have passed if the democrats didn't ease the filibuster that they say is racist to stand in the way. it needs to happen. that's the very clear. police need to be supported. they have a job to do in our communities and have to keep people safe no matter what their race is. >> sandra: thank you for
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joining us. always a pleasure. >> john: always good to see you. >> thank you. 's just moments ago, house speaker nancy pelosi react or push for. but renaming the nation's capital altogether. the plan would in effect cancel christopher columbus by changing district of columbia to douglas commonwealth in honor of the abolitionist leader frederick douglass. let's bring in our panel now. ron williams and sean duffy are joining us. one, what about this as we await nancy pelosi's words on it? where do you stand? >> d.c. statehood? yeah. this has become a real cause here in the district of columbia where i live and of course the idea, as you can see in her license plate, is taxation without representation, which is of course a bellwether slogan from the u.s. revolution against
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britain. you do have a hundred thousand people who do not have representation living in the district of columbia. i have often been an outsider because i have often said if we were reconnected in terms of those voting rights to the adjacent states of maryland and virginia, it would satisfy it. right now, i think there is a tremendous amount of momentum had it in the direction of trying to get something to go here. i don't know that it will get past the senate, but -- ct let's check in with nancy pelosi i just spoke on this issue a few moments ago. >> has of representatives reaffirms its truth that all deserve a voice in our democracy. to hear the congresswoman talk about equality for the people in the district of columbia.
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>> sandra: i will get your reaction, sean. >> to ron's point, the founders were the ones who actually said no taxation without representation. in our standard document, they set up d.c. to be a neutral zone. in washington, d.c., you have some of the wealthiest households in america. that gets the more access to members of congress. the power of d.c. is still great. let's be clear what this is. this is about getting two more senate seats so they can control the senate. it's like hr want to change voting murals. this is a power grab. this isn't about representation. if they cared about actually representation, they would look at puerto rico. puerto rico should become a state. the problem is that sometimes your puerto rico votes for republicans. d.c. is 90% democrat. >> sandra: i will let want to
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respond to that but also respond to nancy pelosi's words. do you truly believe that she is pushing this because she believes it will bring equality in congress? >> i think that the whole notion of every person having representation is pretty basic, and you can understand why that would be her call. with regard to puerto rico, i think that the idea would be -- and it has been in the past -- even to look at a state like utah that is overwhelmingly republican in its voting pattern and pair them with post representation. that was shot down. i think puerto rico is still mostly democrat. so if the argument coming from the former congressman is that it would benefit democrats, i guess that is true. i can't read about that. but i can say that in both cases -- in the case of puerto rico, commonwealth and in
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the case of district of columbia, an area -- we have more people living with and you have in areas that are given statehood in the right to be represented in the senate and the house. >> the founders intended that that is the way d.c. would be set up. they wanted it to be a neutral zone. they didn't care about freedom and they didn't care about voting, but they did care about a neutral zone for the state of government which is why they came up with the district of columbia, which is not a state. >> sandra: i appreciate both of you joining us on that this afternoon. thank you, juan and shawn. >> john: i guess the plan is shrink down the federal district and then the rest of it becomes the new state of d.c. if you look back at what has happened over history, the virginia section of d.c. was given back to virginia. if you shrink the federal district, maybe he should get the rest back to maryland, has juan suggested? >> john: up next, a look at
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>> thank you, mayor. i understand the outrage and emotion around this incident. a teenage girl is dead. she is dead at the hands of the
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police officer. under any circumstances, that is a horrendous tragedy. the video shows that there is more to this. it requires us to pause, take a close look at the sequence of events, i know it is not easy, wait for the facts as determined by an independent investigation. we have to ask ourselves what information did the officer have? what did he see? how much time did he have to assess the situation? and what would have happened if he had taken no action at all? we don't yet have those answers, but these are some of the
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questions that are asked and addressed in disciplinary hearings that come before me. as chief woods has indicated, a fully independent investigation is being conducted by bci. the results will be public. i plead with the community. let us not rush to judgment. as i said last night, fast facts should not come at the cost of complete and accurate facts. the loved ones of ma'khia bryant have my most sincere sympathies. and we as a community should wrap them in love, and we should allow the process to play out. thank you.
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speak out again, i am limited in the information that i can share but also any information that i have. as i stated earlier, the division police, our responsibility is to provide information, not conduct this investigation. i will try to answer some questions. >> hill is on that first 911 call? is that ma'khia bryant's voice? >> we did not know that yet. we will interview the witnesses. the divisional police did not interview any witness that day. >> did anyone say it was her making a call? >> i do not have that information. >> again, those are witnesses. they were referred to bci, said bci would have that information.
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again, that is part of their investigation. the extent of our involvement was separating the witnesses. keep them available for bci. but we did not interview them. we don't ask them what they saw before we got there. that is an entirely explicit bci process. >> i have a question for you and one for the mayor, if i may. this question has to do with policy more than it has to do with the investigation. when it happened and people heard the mayor because her body cams to be released, when should an officer have to use a taser rather than a service gone? again, i am asking you to answer not based on policy.
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>> i cannot respond to this specific incident, but when officers are faced with someone employing deadly force, deadly force can be the response the officer gets. >> at what point is it approved for sad officer and a hypothetical to use a taser versus a service weapon? >> again, if there is not deadly force being perpetrated on someone else at that time, an officer may have an opportunity to have cover, distance, and time to use a taser. if those things aren't present and there is an active assault going on in which someone could lose their life, the officer can use their firearms to protect that third person. >> mr. mayor, it is very rare for a police to release body can
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video this quickly. you announced quickly after the shooting that there were video they want to get released. >> i think we all knew that there were a lot of things being said and chaired out in the community that may or may not have been consistent with what we have seen with our own eyes here. i think critically during a time of crisis, it is very important to be as transparent and responsive as possible. and so works closely with the director and the chief and their teams to make sure that we got this footage out now that you have everything that we have that has been processed. we will be sharing more in the hours, days, and weeks ahead that doesn't compromise the investigation.
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it is critically important for us, for the public, to have the information that we have so we can be as transparent as possible. >> mayor, to follow up on that, his call wasn't to release all of that information? why was it done? with addenda, motions, and did it, motions? >> it was done because the public deserves to know what happened. they needed to have this footage. the reason that i made body worn cameras my top priority when i was running and reinvested so much during my first term is to have this information, to have this transparency, to have this power given to the community. it is no longer about an officer's word versus a residence word or a different neighbors takes on things. we have this footage, and we know that having this footage increases accountability on both sides of the camera. this is also why we are upgrading our body worn camera system this year in partnership
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with capsule to make sure we have the next generation and best available technology and footage to share with the public as these things take shape. >> to follow up on that. >> i believe it will be something we have to evaluate. my goal is to have as much information shared as quickly as possible as you know, our top priority was -- the first time ever that the city has had independent investigations take place. the bci is handling it in this case as well as a case involving andre hill from december. dad was a top priority we believe it is in shootings and
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deaths in custody. it is something that we will strive for and make a priority because we believe transparency is most important during times like these. >> can you talk about the need for reflection [indistinct]. regardless [indistinct], are you going to decline for change? >> absolutely. the fact that we had a 15-year-old girl armed and involved with physical violence with other folks in our community, that is something for us to look in the mirror and say what are we doing or not doing? how can we better serve young people who are facing one of the greatest spikes and violence in this city and in cities across america? what else can we be doing? as you know, we are undertaking significant reform efforts.
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we are looking at our retraining and our recruiting and the types of officers that we are putting on the street and what we are equipping them with all in response to the report in the community safety advisory commission recommendations. so this is going to be a top priority for the city moving forward as we continue with change and reform. we are going to be hiring the first external chief of police and the city's history in the coming months. we think that with other steps will help us deal with what the community is calling for. >> can you describe how your policy allows an officer to discharge a firearm to prevent deadly harm. what do you say about how many times they can discharge their weapons before stopping and reevaluating? >> firearms training as you fire until the threat is over. i can't assess what the officer
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was thinking. that will be through his statement. training is you aspire to stop threat. >> the gentleman who is also seen in the video is kicking the girl on the ground. it seemed that stating that separately? >> we will have to look at that, but before we can talk to that person or any other individual to look at any other crime that may be committed during this period the bci has to have that first opportunity to talk to everyone there. once they give us information that those interviews have been completed and that it is okay, then we will step in and see if there are additional individuals that need to have charges filed. >> can i follow up on your previous statement? what do you think could have been done differently to prevent what happened last night? >> obviously, we will know a lot more once we have the independent investigation completed and the results back from that, which will be an
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exhaustive process that we have a great deal of confidence an end the people have confidence that it will be an independent investigation. certainly what i was stating to do is this larger spike in violence that you and i have talked about a number of times over the past year. and what we need to be doing as a community to prevent this type of violence before any officer arrives on the scene that was taking place in one of our neighborhoods. it is going to require all of us to step up and do more to invest in our young people and make sure that they have positive programmatic pathways to a brighter future. there are so many young people right now that are hopeless. they feel like they don't count. they don't matter. and there is no impact on their future. they continue to see their friends shot and killed day
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after day, week after week, month after month. there is a hopelessness out there amongst young people, and that is something collectively as a community that we are going to have to address. >> you talked about this a little bit, but he said this morning that guns cannot be the final answer. what specifically did you see on that tape that makes you think this may not have been appropriate or alternatively that officers did act appropriately? >> obviously, the investigation will respond to that and will answer that in the criminal side and on the policy side for the division of police. the council president's statements, i'm not going to react to that. i do believe that a lot of other reforms and efforts that we are involved with, including the alternative crisis response and other things we are investing in will help. i don't know if any of those things would have a different
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outcome based on what we have seen in this footage. we want to know completely and tell that independent investigation is finished. >> the question that is asked primarily on social media [indistinct]. a legitimate question that a lot of people asking is can officer shoot the leg? can they shoot somewhere that will not result in a death? a lot of people to take what he had shot her in the leg, could he have shot her in the arm? >> one of the difficult things with that is when you are trying, we don't trade to the leg because that is a small target. we trained to shoot center mass. the largest part of a body that is available to them. when you try to start shooting legs or arms, roundness, and
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they continue on, and there are people behind that that could be a danger that are not committing anything. so we try to minimize any danger to anyone else if we have to use our firearm. states you is a 12 minute response time acceptable? >> it was not written up as an attempted staffing. we received the information as a disturbance. as you can hear from the 911 call, there was some confusing information. the dispatchers attempted to gain more information to help them decipher what was going on. the second call was very abbreviated. once they saw a cruiser outside, no additional information was provided. let me try to do it is dispatchers is ask questions and get as much information as he possibly can so officers traveling to the scene have all of that information. in this instance, i think it was very chaotic. the phone call was loud. there was screaming going on in
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the background. all of that information -- they weren't able to get would have been beneficial. as far as a 12 minute response time, i also don't know what was going on in the city at that time. we have to prioritize. we only have so many resources. so if there were other priority calls for service at that time, we have to look at that and our cars available for that? >> the first call did refer to trying to stab. is that no cause for urgency? >> again, cars were dispatched. the call was written up, but do we have cars available to respond? that is a question i don't have the answer to right now. >> [indistinct]. >> i do not.
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>> [indistinct]. >> i believe they were minor injuries. i don't have the extent of those injuries though. i don't have that information, again. any injury or any information they would have provided would have gone to bci not the police. speak at the first call was at 4:32. is that correct? >> yes. i just have the information where he received the first call. >> and officers were dispatched at 4:35? does it typically take 3 minutes for a dispatch? >> it was an afternoon. it was a nice day. that may have been a lot of calls for service.
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so what cars are available. they rank those in priority. this was a priority two call. once a car is available, they get dispatched. >> do you know how many gunshots -- >> i do not. that will be a bci question. it is not a policy requirement that you gather intent to fire a weapon. if there is time and opportunity, yes, we try to include that, but it is not a requirement if that time and opportunity is not there. >> [indistinct]. >> i can't confirm any information about her residence or any information about her. >> do they know would be disturbance was about? >> we don't. that will be obtained through those investigations from bci.
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they are getting that first crack. they want to have that information. they want to have that information fresh. i would like to just mention your question about the timeliness and how quickly were able to get this information out there. one of the things that has to occur before we get that is not bci wants to have the opportunity to look at that body worn camera footage. so we send a homicide detective to that seen with a computer that allows them to watch that. they want to review all that body worn camera so that when they are doing their investigation, the scene, any evidence, they want to make sure that they have collected any evidence. they are getting that first opportunity. last night, the opportunity to be that happen quickly. the body worn camera was brought into police headquarters. we uploaded it into the system, and then we got that out as quick as we could. i don't even five and a half hours. that is extremely fast. i am not going to say that we
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are going to be able to do that every time. if there are a lot more videos to watch, bci has to go through each one of those videos to have a good understanding of what took place, hit interview, with the crime scene look like, so it is a time factor of making sure that they have that information before any of us do. bci agents watched all of that body worn camera before it was ever brought to me. >> what is your viewpoint watching that video? >> it's a tragedy. there is no other way to say it. it is a 16-year-old girl. i'm a father. her family is grieving. regardless of the circumstances associated with this, a 16-year-old girl lost her life yesterday. i sure as wish it had not have
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happened. >> john: the police chief staff columbus, ohio. this is a tragedy. i sure wish it hadn't happened. as we come out of this, i thought the ohio safety director was quite eloquent when he said it requires us to pause, take a look at the events. asking the question what would have happened if this officer had not taken any action? let us not rush to judgment. let the bureau of criminal investigation do its investigation into what happened yesterday. >> sandra: a very emotional plea to the public. also you're having a conversation with ted williams where you asked about is a taser could have been used in this situation that we only know by watching the video and what the police shouted. the police were asked about that in this news conference. the answer was they can't really
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say because they don't know all the parameters of that moment. but he went on to say someone applying deadly force -- deadly force can be used by the officer if they see that deadly force is being used on another civilian. you watch that video, and you hear the officers that are tending to the two girls on the ground yelling she came at them with a knife. obviously, the body can't that e is key. >> john: will be hearing a lot more in the days ahead. meantime, the white house during support behind teaching critical race theory and schools. but republicans warned that woke schooling is getting our children a warped view of america. the former secretary of education, bill bennett, joined us now. the current tenant of critical race theory is that racism is a social construct that is
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designed to promote white power and keep minority suppressed. the question is, should not be taught in schools across america? >> no, it shouldn't because it is based on the lot of wrong assumptions and fallacies. the most important thing to see here is that the department of education will put $6 billion into this program. this is going into schools. these things are important. the things that happened in columbus are important, the sheriff in trial is important, but why do you think we have th. the institutions, media, foundations, schools, why are they all going in one direction? it is because they understand education. the democrats understand education. they care about it, they push the sails. republicans are interested in things like commerce and regulation and taxes. all important issues. the most important question is how we educate children and what we teach them.
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and we better get a hold of this. i would like to see a cultured tea party formed just like the tea party we saw it earlier about taxes. this is a major assault on our kids minds and the country. if we may lose this country. >> john: obviously, this proposed rule is lengthy, but here is a section as published. it says "the department recognizes that covid-19 with its disproportionate impact on communities of color and the ongoing national reckoning with systemic racism have highlighted the urgency of improving racial equity throughout society including our education system." there are those words again. systemic racism. >> yeah. systemic racism. mr. terrell says show me the community where it is. the end answer is well, it is everywhere. very important that we understand who is missing from this movement. martin luther king is missing
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because he said i want my kids to be judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. this movement is based on judging people by the color of their skin. if you are black, if you're african-american, it is fine. you have been discriminated against and you get extra consideration. if you are right, your privilege, you will be faulted for it. this is a crazy way to do it. it was crazy when he discriminated against blacks. it is crazy with me discriminate against white people. i'm telling you unless republicans figured out and discover the importance of the schools and education as an issue, they are going to have their way, and it is going to make a major difference to this place. >> john: funding is going to be tied to be adoption of this rule. here's what the national review wrote about it. "if conservative governors push back against grants, they will be slammed by democrats. the education establishment, and
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the media for refusing badly needed federal dollars. >> right. the federal government holds the money out. if there is a governor courageous enough to turn down money on anything, they will make sure -- this is not money you want because this is money tied to programs that are not going to be good for your kids. what happened to reading and writing and math and science? those are the things that we should be finding and supporting. those are the things we need to go back to you. we need a grassroots movement here. we need a culture tea party. tea party about culture. democrats understand the power of education. republicans don't. they have got to get in the game but not just when they hear the word fedex. they get all misty-eyed. look at the detail. look at the actual program. that is important. >> john: we will keep wanting
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to see if any state take any action. it is always good to see. thank you. >> thank you, john. >> sandra: thank you, john. the derek chopin verdict is just one part of the -- not only is there potential appeal to consider, but three former officers are still waiting to go on trial. let's bring in our panel. welcome to both of you. how will this affect those three officers who have yet to go to trial? >> number one, it is going to be a problem because whenever you have the court of public opinion -- in this case, the court of public opinion now includes the highest elected official of our country -- can anybody get a truly fair and impartial jury in this country, the next day and age, right now? that is the overarching question
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for me when we allow the court of public opinion to "peacefully protest" to send things to witness his doorsteps. he think that that doesn't infiltrate the people who are called upon to sit in that jury box? we have a problem, and we need to start looking at that. maybe this will be one of the benefits and good things that come from this particular case. >> sandra: did the words of maxine waters and joe biden open the door for an appeal here? >> i think the words of congresswoman waters and president biden are certainly traveling because the jury had not been sequestered. whereas when president biden spoke, they technically were in a bubble. certainly the evidence indicates it is going to be far more than the words of elected leaders.
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9 minutes and 20 some seconds of the full weight of an officer's body on this man's neck. these officers have bigger concerns. quite frankly, whether they can get a fair trial, that horse left the barn a long time ago. blaming it on the president and blaming it on the congresswoman -- >> no one is blaming, but the judge obviously brought this up as a reasonable pursuit considering the words of the congresswoman. i want to put this up on the screen. actually, this is kevin mccarthy and his own words, i should say, on waters. listen to this. stake out the justice system work yesterday, but now the judge even raise the issue because of maxine waters, an appeal can move forward. to disrupt our justice system when you have an opportunity here to heal some wounds and come together for a more perfect union. that type of rhetoric does not help. speak to a real quick response
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from both of you. >> maxine waters opinion has nothing to do it justice. what she thinks is the right verdict has nothing to do with the evidence. has nothing to do with the generators. if they hurt her words and influence them in any direction, it is a problem, and it is an issue for sure. speak of jurors taken out. they spread to be fair and impartial, to do nothing but base their verdict on the evidence. if we can't trust them, then we might as well have computers determine whether someone is guilty or not guilty. i don't think the system could tolerate that. >> sandra: part of that system is asking them how much they know about a situation before they are chosen. obviously, it is important. thanks to both of you. we are out of time. i appreciate it. they want a jaw-dropping investigation that you will see only on fox. it turns out that the smugglers who were speaking migrants across the southern border could be your kids. lot along the border now at this fox news exclusive. what is this about?
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>> good afternoon to you. you see the rio grande river behind me. migrants cross over the river. sometimes, there are young americans waiting for them on this side kind of like in huber ready to smuggle them across the border. fox news has exclusively obtained these images -- reveal the ads that cartels are using on social media sites like tiktok. another one offer is $3500 for just one ride. sources tell us that kids are signing up to this because it is better than getting at the job at the mall for minimum wage. sometimes they are using their parent suvs to do this. their role involves smuggling the migrants to a drop off location or a trusted person
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that transfers them to us -- as. these pictures are from laredo, texas, showing the snatch has this. one actually shows nearly 90 people packed inside. >> cartels have operational control over the border. we have stopped vehicles with humans that are being sent to staff chassis for human trafficking and sex trafficking. >> we saw a horrifying car crash involving dozens of migrants. authorities on the ground are concerned that one of the teenagers and their passengers are going to get hurt. john? >> john: no question about that. we see car chases all the time. great reporting along the border. thanks so much. when he think of these cartels were recruiting american kids on the side of the border to carry out the smuggling, that's a problem. speaking of it is indeed. before we go, on fox nation right now, as of today, and
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special that i hosted on the death of the ponzi scheme are pretty made off. a look back. watch. >> as the calendar turned 2009, made off's ponzi scheme had wiped out fortunes and ruin charities. >> they lost their retirement. they lost their investments. lost their pension investments. lost their iras. they were devastated. stated it is streaming on "fox nation now." there is a lot of great stuff on there. unique staff, and this is one of them. it was a pleasure to look on this, but unfortunately a horrible look back for those victims that are still reeling from today from the worst fraudster that the world may have ever seen. it was a multibillion dollar scam lasted decades.
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>> john: is an intriguing story and so many people got hurt and lost their life savings. you can't feel bad about him going to jail like a dead. >> sandra: not at all. it's great to be with you. thanks for joining. i am >> martha: thanks. good afternoon. i'm martha maccallum in new york. this is "the story." watch this. >> quit your job! >> that was last night in new york city. people yelled at the police asking them to quit their jobs in the wake of the chauvin verdict. we know that other officers with chauvin that day are going to go to trial. those trials are still ahead this summer. a short time ago, merrick garland says the department of justice is going to investigate all of the minneapolis police department practices. >> yesterday's verdict in the state


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