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today 4:00 p.m. eastern, el presidente in the meantime sean hannity takes over from new york. >> sean: tucker, thank you, and welcome to "hannity." chauvin was found guilty on all charges, second-degree murder, second-degree manslaughter. chauvin's bail has now been revoked and he's in jail tonight with sentencing to take place eight weeks from now and tonight he's facing the likelihood of decades behind bars. the video evidence in this case, it was substantial, it was overwhelming and it was appalling. the jury arrived with their verdict less than 24 hours after being handed the case. not a single question asked by the jury to the judge.
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for 9:29, then officer chauvin shoved his knee into the neck of george floyd who was handcuffed and on the ground and chauvin continued to apply pressure to floyd's neck, as we've discussed on this program, the most vulnerable part of the human anatomy, even after floyd was handcuffed saying he can't breathe and fully complying with the police the crowd that had gathered urged the officer to please stop and he stayed on george floyd's neck even after he went unconscious and the chief of police testified at the trial, this is not what officers are trained to do. so let me be clear. this is in no way an indictment of all police officers. this is a guilty verdict for one police officer. everywhere, unlike others on this program we do make the distinction. we talked about the 99% of good police officers that risk their lives daily to protect and serve their communities. they have a very hard job and
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it's getting harder every day. we made that distinction often when we exposed the deep state, corruption at the highest levels of the fbi, the 1%, not the 99% that do their jobs honorably in the fbi. this trial was about the destructive and unlawful actions of one person and now the jury has spoken, but, well, not everyone in the mob media is particularly happy. msdnc contributor, one there is not happy. according to him, a guilty verdict on every charge just isn't enough. take a look. >> i actually always thought he would be found guilty because it's sort of a cultural make-up call but i'm not happy. i'm not pleased. i don't have any satisfaction. i don't think this is a good thing. this is not the system working. this is a make-up call. this is justice system trying to say, this is one bad apple because that's how this is going to be interpreted. one bad apple.
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he got in trouble. yes, blah, blah, blah. >> sean: the jury found that the officer was guilty on every single charge. according to johnson only a radical reform will bring about true justice. will radical reform defund the police? dismantle the entire police? dismantle our entire system? how do you think that will work out in the end? congresswoman ocasio-cortez, the leader of the "squad" agrees. she would also like to use floyd's death to achieve her radical ideas like disarming police during traffic stops. will somebody please maybe last week, tape was released of a "routine traffic stop" and that new mexico officer was shot dead. maybe send it to the congresswoman. take a look. >> it's not justice. and i'll explain to you why it's not justice. it's not justice because justice
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is george floyd going home tonight to be with his family. justice is adam toledo getting tucked in by his mom tonight. justice is when you're pulled over, they are not being a gun. that's part of that interaction because you have the headlight out. >> sean: remember congresswoman ocasio-cortez, a few other radical members of congress, they are the ones in charge of this democratic socialist party. the green new deal. it's not joe biden. i don't even know if he knows what day it is. he gets blown over by the wind on any given day, we're told. it's certainly not kamala harris apparently also got blown over by the wind today and it's not nancy pelosi or chuck schumer. nancy is speaker in name only. biden and pelosi follow the squad's agenda so it's no
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surprise that just moments ago joe biden echoed congresswoman ocasio-cortez's vow for changes for america but that's not all. biden also called on americans to protest with purpose. what did he mean here? >> take a look. >> -- george floyd lost a summer of protest that we haven't seen since the civil rights era in the 1960s. protests that unified people of every race and generation, and with peace and with purpose. to say enough. enough. enough of this senseless killings. >> sean: protest with a purpose, is that what happened last summer, joe, when you didn't the courage to speak out against the violent riots that were taking place on a nightly basis all over the country? you didn't even mention it at the democratic national convention, not one time, when a police precinct was burned to the ground in minneapolis, downtown portland was on fire
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for weeks, seattle rioters took over several city blocks including a police precinct, multiple young people were murdered during that so-called summer of love chaz chop autonomous zones. remember during the height of the violence she said "they aren't going to stop. you beware because they are not going to stop. they are not going to stop before election day in november. they are not going to stop after election day," and everyone should take note of that on both levels. they are not going to let up and they should not and we should not. now we're facing another, what, summer of violence, but instead of calming tensions and calling for justice, biden is pouring fuel on the fire. on multiple occasions he said that america is slipping back into jim crow calling the georgia voting law bill jim crow
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2.0, or jim crow in the 21st century, which, by the way, the voting law in georgia is far more access to every person in georgia than his home state of delaware. the one he called the slave state. as a matter of fact, for 50 years he never lifted a finger to make voting more accessible in the state of delaware. 17 days early in person voting in georgia, none in delaware. zero drop boxes in delaware. but, yes, in georgia, they have a box in every precinct. and by the way, both states require voter i.d. so how is jim crow 2.0? it's this kind of irresponsible rhetoric from politician that is divides this country. by the way, this is a bill that standardizes drop boxes and mail-in voting and both states require voter i.d. on absentee ballots. in order to score cheap political points joe biden
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brings up jim crow 2.0. democrats now believe that they can win votes by, what,villefying america? this is not perfect country, we've said that many times but we have a system of justice, a constitution, our founders and framers put into place a system to right wrongs and correct injustices and americans have proven to do so over and over again. many fought and died to end slavery. remember the civil rights act, joe, of 1964? the voting rights act of 1965? again, major steps towards a more perfect union. by the way, joe biden, key democrats filibustered those bills including your good friend that you praise often, robert byrd, former klansmen, guy that you partnered with in the 19 receives to stop integration of our schools. you didn't want them to become, in your words, racial jungles, and tonight joe biden said that
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we need to confront racial disparities. wasn't he the author of the 1994 crime bill? the one that put so many african-americans behind bars as dana lash put it, "the irony of a politician of champion of segregation that authored the crime bill now lecturing on systemic racism is pretty something." in a very bizarre speech over in the house nancy pelosi essentially thanked george floyd for taking one for the team? are you kidding me? watch this. >> thank you, george floyd, for sacrificing your life for justice. for being there to call out to your mom, how heartbreaking was that, call out for your mom. i can't breathe. but because of you, and because of thousands, millions of people around the world who came out for justice, your name will always be synonymous with
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justice. >> sean: speaker pelosi, george floyd was killed, and, by the way, today's guilty verdict was put in jeopardy by one of your own colleagues. prior to the verdict many on the left seemingly trying to influence this jury's decision. this morning joe biden announced that he was praying the jury would do the right thing and deliver the right verdict. he even called the family of george floyd while the jury was out deliberating. meanwhile, congresswoman maxine waters was busy lobbying threats of violence encouraging more confrontational riots if chauvin wasn't found guilty on all three counts. watch this. >> we're going to get three verdicts that says guilty, guilty, guilty. and if we don't -- >> it's not just manslaughter, right? >> oh, no, not manslaughter. this is guilty for murder.
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we've got to get on the streets, more confrontational. we've got to make sure that they know we mean business. >> sean: keep in mind that maxine waters has broadly vilified police for years. according to the daily wire she requested police protection. how ironic, for her trip to minnesota. by the way, i haven't noticed many congressmen, women, or senators saying defund the capitol police. remember she made comments that you just heard. even judge peter cahill, who is presiding over the chauvin trial, called her rhetoric abhorrent and maxine waters' statements could be used by the defense as grounds for a future appeal. watch this. >> maxine waters may have given you something on appeal that may result in this whole trial being overturned. i wish elected officials would stop talking about this case, especially in a manner that's disrespectful to the rule of law and to the judicial branch and
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our function. i think if they want to give their opinions, they should do so in a respectful and in a manner that's consistent with the constitution. a respected coequal branch of government. their failure to do so is abhorrent. >> sean: according to harvard law professor allen dershowitz, what maxine waters did coupled with the judge refusing to sequester the jury, could lead to the u.s. supreme court ultimately reversing this conviction. now, time will tell if dershowitz is right but of course, it's grounds for an appeal as the judge just said. a sitting member of congress calling on people to take to the streets and get confrontational if she didn't get her desired verdict. so where are all the democrats? months ago, they were the ones that were obsessed with the term "insurrection." and deeply concerned, they said, about law and order. where are they tonight? we can call them the
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insurrectionist caucus, the ones that were silent all last summer when rioting was breaking out all over the country. what, it's only insurrection or rioting if they can use it against donald trump and republicans as a political wedge? virtually no one on the left is condemning waters' remarks. no one. and by the way, this is not the first time. maxine waters has called for violence numerous times. it's not even close. you likely remember some of these great moments. >> you need to sit in the chair -- >> in a department store. in a gasoline station. you get out in the crowd -- [inaudible] >> you tell them that they aren't welcomed. >> the people are going to turn on them. they are going to protest. they are going to absolutely arouse them until they decide that they are going to tell the president, no, i can't hang with
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you. >> i did not threaten the constituents or supporters. i do that all the time but i didn't do it this time. this is a bunch of scum bags. that's what they are. >> with this kind of inspur rakes i'll go and take trump out tonight. >> sean: i'll go and take trump out tonight. get in their faces at the grocery store, create a crowd, and go after them. they aren't wanted anywhere, any time, any more. waters, ocasio-cortez, the rest of the squad, they now run the democratic party. they are in charge. schumer and pelosi are afraid of them. now they not only want to defund the police but dismantle the police in america. we know what happens when the police are defunded, don't we, or they are forced to pull back or afraid to do their job? you should pay attention, in the city of atlanta, my home town,
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murder is up 58%. new york city, 40%. even defunding efforts in milwaukee, guess what, homicides there went up a whopping 97%. in chicago, murders this year alone are up 33% over last year's record increase. we've been scrolling the names of murder victims, shooting victims in chicago for years. when biden was vice president, obama's hometown, when he was president, we scrolled names you never heard of before. we begged for action. they didn't lift a finger in obama's hometown. can anyone tonight, can you name the latest round of murder victims in chicago? there were 26 people shot this weekend, five dead. a 7 year old little girl was murdered in a mcdonald's drive through. is anybody paying attention? do you know her name tonight? those are important lives, too. what about the 103 policemen so far this year in this country that have died, most of them shot and killed in the line of
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duty. their lives matter, too. their families' lives matter. make no mistake. when police are vilified, when they are defunded, when they are severely reinstructed, when they are dismantled, every american will suffer. that won't end well. we'll monitor the situation on the ground in minneapolis all night but first, joining us, fox news contributor leo torell, fox news legal analyst greg jarret. leo, we'll start with you tonight. i predicted this verdict for a lot of reasons but the biggest being the 9:29 of videotape and the second being, that the police chief testified that this is absolutely not the way we train police officers to handle a situation like this especially when somebody no longer is resisting, and in handcuffs. >> sean, the legal system worked today, and i listened to your monologue. your spot on. derek chauvin was not being
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charged with racism. race was not even mentioned in the case at all. we had a diverse jury and they rendered justice based on the evidence inside the courtroom. you wouldn't believe it listening to the democrats. they made it a race case in the court of public opinion and they want to continue it because they want to divide this country on race. the legal system worked today. but yet they are not happy. you're absolutely right. they are going to continue to claim a lie about systemic discrimination. joe biden said that today. it's a lie. kamala harris, systemic discrimination. racism. jim crow. i've had it. the point is they didn't get what they wanted. they wanted some type of mixed verdict, a verdict came back based on the facts, and they are still not happy. you cannot satisfy these extremists at all. >> sean: you've been following this case closely as well, craig
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jaret. first your initial reaction and the judge's reaction yesterday to maxine waters. do you believe there is a possible appeal there based on what she said? >> well, justice was clearly done, sean, and i'm glad -- it was a televised trial so people could see it for themselves. and the jurors here were eyewitnesses to george floyd's murder. thanks to a video digital recording. they were transported back in time, if you will, to last may 25, and they watched nine agonizing minutes and 29 seconds. it was a slow motion death spiral, and the jurors got it right. clearly this was felony murder, the top count. it was also qualified -- third-degree murder and
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certainly gross negligence which was the manslaughter charge in. terms of maxine waters, though, and getting this case overturned, as my friend leo has pointed out earlier today, you have to prove that one or more jurors heard her remarks, and second of all, that it influenced their decision in some way. absent that, then no, and, you know, this is an example, maxine waters certainly has a first amendment right to speak her mind, but doing so, so close to the jury deliberations, i think, was just dumb. >> sean: greg jaret, stay there. we'll get back to you throughout the hour. leo, stay as well. we'll go back to the ground in new york city tonight where we've been showing video of protestors marching. brian, what's going on, on the ground? >> this is a protest here that started at the barkley center
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and is now headed to prospect park. 150 to 200 people actually. what we've been hearing tonight from a lot of the leaders of this protests are a couple of things. one, this one guilty verdict is not going to bring justice. as a matter of fact, the leader of this shut it down new york city group told the crowd that the mission is abolition. that means to abolish the police. the solution is abolition. these are the things that the leaders were telling the group. on top of that we also spoke to a leader of the greater new york blm group who said that this verdict actually justifies the violent and the nonviolent protests. he said that it was the violent protests and the rioting that actually helped bring about this verdict. he mentioned the fact that rodney king as well as others, they did not get the justice they sought, and now they believe with this threat of rioting and the mixture of violent and nonviolent protests, that this is why they received
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the result that they did. so there isn't a celebratory mood here. as a matter of fact, it's just a mood in which people believe that it's justified -- the people need to continue to move forward. you can see the group continue to march here as we go into the park and crossing over the road, but again, this isn't celebratory at all. this is, as a matter of fact, they are using this as a way to say, you know what? we have to keep moving forward. they keep saying the names of brionna taylor and others. i'll try to speak to some people here in a second. we're just moving at a very quick pace here. but again, sean, i think it's important that we iterate that, that this is not -- they are not seeing this as an end or some sort of means to a solution. this is just, they are going to continue to march. this summer, and beyond. sean? >> sean: all right. brian in new york city. we'll get back to you throughout the hour. thank you, brian. for more reaction, constitutional law scholar, fox
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news contributor, jonathan turley. jonathan, i want to get your reaction on the judge's remarks in regards to maxine waters, number one. i always believe in these high-profile cases that jurors need to be sequestered. it's a better way to handle things. less of a possibility that they will see or hear things that might potentially influence them. although i have faith in the jury system, as imperfect as it could be at times, and also, high-profile cases changing venues sometimes which i think is often a good idea. your thoughts on all three of those? >> well, i agree. i thought that the judge did an outstanding job in the trial overall, but i think he did make a mistake on both venue and sequestering. he decided not to change the venue in this case which i thought it was not a good decision. then he didn't sequester the jury and there were issues even before the waters matter, you
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know, they reached a record settlement with the family that came down right before the trial while they were selecting jurors. there was rioting that occurred, an explosion of rioting after the shooting of mr. wright in the nearby town of brooklyn center. one of the jurors actually lives in brooklyn center so i think this was all just creating a very bad situation for rendering justice in the case, and that's when representative waters walks in and just pours gasoline on this fire. i think you could see why the judge was so upset. he understood the defense motion, that the failure to change venue, failure to sequester, was raising legitimate issues, and then he has this congresswoman who flies in and says we won't accept anything but conviction, and we
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want you to get more confrontational and stay on the streets. it could not be a worst situation for the court. >> sean: yes. i tend to agree with you. if you were the defense attorney here, what would be your motion going forward? >> well, as you know, i've been a criminal defense attorney for decades, and this is the type of case that's always exceptionally difficult. the evidence here was quite strong against the defendant. but also you had a videotape that just had this huge emotive impact on all of us. you can't unsee what you just saw in that traumatic video. i think the defense will make -- will attempt to challenge the failure to change venue and the failure to sequester the jury. this has more facts to support that type of motion than you usually have in cases. i've made that type of motion in
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past cases. i have never seen a case like this one that has so many different factors that could be cited before the court of appeals. the problem, sean, is that this is a notoriously difficult type of challenge to bring. the court of appeals loathes to second-guess trial judges or to overturn verdicts after such a long and traumatic trial. so they really require the defense to show something quite concrete in terms of bias before the jurors. the other types of attacks that can be made will be based on the evidence but there again it's a very hard type of appeal to make i don't expect the verdict to be overturned but there is also a second question here which is where we're going. you will notice that the attorney general keith ellison would not talk about the upcoming trial of the three officers. those cases are going to be far
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more challenging, and the prosecutors made a statement during this trial in the closing day, that i thought was quite extraordinary. the lead prosecutor says that the other officers were "powerless" to stop chauvin. and that was a remarkable statement because, prosecutors don't normally prosecute the powerless. and it will be interesting if that statement to the court and the jury will be played back when these other three officers stand trial for aiding and abetting on this murder. >> sean: i think that's a great observation on your part, and i think -- i would bet heavily on it coming up in those future trials, but great analysis as always. thank you, jonathan turley, professor, appreciate it. we go on the ground to mike tobin in indianapolis tonight
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where there has been protesting as well. what's going on? >> a lot of spontaneous protests. that's what we saw spring up outside the courthouse to await the verdict. when they heard the verdict it was a big celebration, and then as it progressed it really became another protest. we saw people gather on the street, and start marching. there was some friction on the street. mostly because they were blocking traffic and some cars were trying to get through but in terms of how the protest developed, they went through a lot of the same kinds of chants we've heard all along. chants end with all the damn system as guilty as hell. speaking with some of the people out there. some expressed just that they were initially very happy but when they wake up in the morning they will wake up to the same system. they also talk about a lack of change. what they want to see are some substantial changes with the system itself and they are also aware that they have to deal with the trials of the additional three officers who were from this very scene.
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keep in mind this location behind me, this is where it all got started on may 25. so you have a lot of dissatisfaction. as far as comments that have come out of the politicians since it all went down, people out here have been in the street the whole time. some people are tuned in on phones. by and large the people out here really haven't reacted, particularly the comments we've heard from the president. so for the most part, they are happy with the guilty verdict but most view from it their perspective as a steppingstone. a lot needs to be done. it would be hard to call it a celebration at this point. it's much more -- it much more has the feel of another protest, sean. >> sean: mike tobin on the ground in minneapolis. thank you, mike. we'll continue to monitor the situation there and in other cities around the country where demonstrators are reacting following the verdict from today. listen to one blm leader in brooklyn tonight talking to our very own brian ennis, and saying that the violence last summer is what helped get a guilty verdict against derek chauvin today.
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take a look. >> if you look at eric gardner, people did all of the same things without the destruction of property. what kind of message is america sending to the people? >> like we'll ignore you until you cause massive disruptions. then we'll give you your justice, that america doesn't listen to us when we march peacefully. i'm not saying people will be back in the street but america must know that if you continue to allow us to be murdered in the streets without justice, we'll raise hell in america. >> sean: here with reaction to all of this, to today's verdict we have nationally syndicated -- i guess not, sorry, we have judge pero. >> when you hear about whether
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or not there should have been a change of venue, maxine waters and not having sequestration, did the judge make a mistake? >> i'm always hesitant as a former judge to criticize the judge because i don't know everything that judge knows but what i can tell is you given the fact, that there are so many protests going on, a change of venue would have been appropriate and i've been involved in change of venue cases. i'm not sure, though, the judge has preserved one of the most important issues. that is, the maxine waters comment is only relevant on appeal if the jurors heard that comment. if the jurors were sequestered at that point, or not, doesn't matter. the jurors should have been called in and questioned individually to preserve the record to find out if any of those jurors heard what maxine waters said. that's jury intimidation, sean. that is something that can
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certainly impact the appeal of the conviction in this case but i want to add one more thing, sean. this isn't about racial justice or social justice. this is about criminal justice in the united states. this is about our justice system which is the best in the world as far as i'm concerned, taking on a difficult case and making a decision that's consistent with the facts. this is a verdict where the jury actually got to see the victim, and when i tried murder cases i used to bring a picture of the victim and put it on my side of the courtroom because everybody got to look at the defendant. here, this jury saw george floyd. they saw everything about him. he was a real person with feelings, and begging to be able to breathe. so that jury was brought into the exact moment of the crime. it's something that happens all the time but it was a position for the justice system and the
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immediate reaction of everyone was, this is great. we got all three verdicts and now they are going to turn it into something else. >> sean: nancy, this has been your passion, and a cause for many, many years in your adult life, issue of seeking justice. you've watched many, many trials. you've seen many, many cases. do you believe justice was served in this case? and what does it say about the overall state of our criminal justice system? it's not perfect but i can't think of a better one. >> thank you for having me. number one, i haven't just watched cases and reported on them. i've tried many, many murder cases and i have been a crime victim myself. >> sean: i'm not dismissing your great credentials. what i meant is, this has been your passion, though, for decades. you've followed more trials over the course of your career in both capaccapacities, so i stan
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corrected. >> i hate to see mr. floyd used the way he's being used by so many people. this case was justice and it's a blow to lady justice to suggest otherwise. i agree with judge pirro. the record was not preserved. in order to make an appeal on what maxine waters did or what president biden did, it has to be preserved. the jurors must be questioned individually. did they hear about it? did it change their impartiality and that was not done. tonight, all the back and forth and claiming there was no victory, that's absolutely wrong and today is, in my mind, a day of mourning. we have lost a victim to murder, and we have seen a cop convicted of murder. that's a sad day in my book. >> sean: sad all the way around.
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you know, i talk often, judge pirro, about how we on this program, going back to biden being vice president, and obama being president, and his home city and his hometown and every week, we can come on this program every monday and give the statistics, how many people in chicago were shot, usually 20, 30, 40, 50, some weekends 60 people. how many were shot and killed. we can give you that number every week. nothing seems to happen. in this case, i agree with nancy grace. justice was served here. but the question is, why, when we put these names up, why don't these politicians that use high-profile cases, where are they when it matters every weekend? and the names of people that we don't know? names that we scroll on this program, because every citizen, if you're going to pursue
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happiness you have to have law and order and safety. >> that's what i meant when i talked about racial justice and social justice, there is a political agenda there. when you don't care as much about a 7-year-old who is shot going through a mcdonald's drive through or the two kids who were shot last week in new york city, not far from where we are -- from where i am right now, that means that you only have a particular agenda and focus and they are trying to jin it up. the agenda is to defund police. the agenda is to get rid of them, and the truth, sean, is that's not going to happen because 81% of african-americans want the same number of police. it's not more. there are race baiters out there who will use whatever they can, and nancy is right, using george floyd as an excuse to start burning down cities. that's not what it's about anymore. people have to understand that the courts are there to deliver
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justice. and when we look at one victim differently from other because of the person who killed them, shame on us as a society. we have lost all sense when we don't care about children being shot because it's not a policeman who shot them. >> sean: nancy, let me ask you about this whole effort. the defund the police movement. the eliminate the police movement or dismantle the police movement, whatever you want to call it. we're now seeing dramatic increases in homicides and murder rates in cities all across the country since last summer as a result of these efforts. i think -- i still believe that 99%, everybody i have ever met in my life, nancy grace, that's a cop, they dream about being a cop since they were little. it's a calling. it's a passion. they are willing to take risks, put themselves in harm's way to
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protect and serve their community. just like the 99% of fbi guys. i was the loudest voice going after those that abused power and those that were corrupt but i always reminded people, that's only 1%. the 99% of officers, their job is getting almost impossible to do at this point. >> when i hear defund the police, you know what i think about, sean, i think about all the victims that i represented in inner-city atlanta, majority of them were children, women, and black. minorities. that had no hope. they didn't think they would get justice. i fought tooth and nail. you know why? because i wanted to see justice. the thought of de funding police is backwards, sean, because those are the people, women, children, with less of a voice in our southeast, the most vulnerable, they are the ones who need the police the most. when i say mr. floyd is being
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used, he's not only being used for protests but he's being used by politicians tonight. they are spitting on george floyd and lady justice because a fight was fought. a fight was fought, and lady justice won, and nobody can take that away. defunding the police. no. and another thing, when i joined the fulton county d.a.'s office, one of the first friends i made, made a traffic stop one day. he pulled a young man over and he got shot in the face dead. randy. to say officers should not be armed for traffic stops is wrong. you need to put yourself in their shoes, but for tonight, chauvin is guilty. >> sean: all right. nancy grace, thank you. judge pirro, thank you. mayor giuliani did show a country that there is a way to make the city safe and secure. he found the areas in new york city that had the highest crime
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rates that were the most dangerous areas, and he put a heavy concentration of police resources, and instituted stop and frisk. you may not like rudy giuliani's politics. it's not about politics. murder rate went from 3,000 people per year down into the low hundreds as a result of caring and good policing. it worked. every city in america could follow that example. the police need more training, yes. is there a reason why we've been showing you other nonlethal alternatives that cops should have available to them? like the burner gun that we've shown you, and other weapons that are nonlethal, yes. to give police another option. because training to the extent you you need to train to be physically martial arts prepared takes years. joining us on the ground in minneapolis, filmmaker,
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documentaryian, i played some of it on my radio show today, as you know, pretty outrageous comments that you've been hearing from people all week long sglchlgt absolutely, sean. look, this is not over by any stretch of the imagination. yes, there is a result that the people here like and they wanted and they craved for, but the reality is, they still don't have any belief in our judicial system. when i ask most people what do you want to do about the judicial system. they want to throw at this time -- throw it out. >> as long as the media and black leadership like maxine waters continues to push that police officers are slaughtering black people wholesale on the street, which is what they believe, this is going to continue. the violence and the rioting and the looting will continue
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because they are being sold a bill of goods. when i ask people here how many black people, unarmed black people were shot and killed by police in 2020, you hear the number hundreds. thousands. the reality was, number one 18, sean. and the majority of those people, they were killed either in a righteous shoot or because there was a terrible accident. and that's the reality that most people are just not aware of because the media is shelling out baloney. >> sean: let me show some of the videos of some of the people you spoke to this week. let's just play it. >> what would you say to people who want to burn the city down? >> absolutely not. i understand the rage as a black person. >> do you think the city is going to burn down? >> yes, absolutely. >> no question about it? >> yep. >> and that will be the least of our problems. >> because -- should we dispense the trial -- not have a trial,
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just convict him right now. >> yes. >> there shouldn't be a trial. he should be convicted. >> what percent of this country -- >> most of the country, i can't give you a number. >> the majority of the country? >> yes. i don't want to say we go to start killing all white folks but it's like -- maybe they need to feel the pain and the hurt. >> sean: he was on my radio show earlier today, and you handed the phone to one of the protestors, and i said, okay, you know, we know what happened in the george floyd case. pretty much virtual agreement around the country that that can't happen ever again. and i said, okay. what about other people that are hurling rocks and bricks and bottles and molotov cocktails. police have done nothing around, 3,000 of which were hurt last summer. 24 person we had on the radio show would not acknowledge at all that that was wrong.
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in any way. now, on this program, when rioting was happening last summer, we condemned it. what happened when the capitol was invaded on january 6, we condemned that, too. what's been happening in some cities since, you know, the start of this a couple of weeks ago, we've been condemning that. why does the left seem to have a problem in just saying, rioting, violence, in any way, shape, matter or form but for self-defense is wrong? >> you're exactly right. i've been making this point the entire time. people separate the protests and rioters. most protestors are not rioters, that's true but the problem is they are two sides of the same coin. i've met hundreds of protestors and among the question i ask, i always ask the same. the same question was used, do you condemn the violence and they can't say yes. they won't say yes. because the left does see the violence as the tool in order to accomplish their goals, okay?
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that's what they are looking to do. on the right, we condemn it. we have full condemning of all violence president on the left they have a hard time condemning it because in fact they like to use that violence as a tool and that's what they are doing, sean. >> sean: horowitz on the ground in minneapolis tonight. thank you. also developing tonight, the extreme far left, racist woke ideology inside some of new york's most elite private schools is now on full display, and bursting out into the public eye. for example, the head of what's called manhattan's elite grace church school, it's actually caught on tape admitting the program was "demonizing white people." listen to this. >> do you agree you're demonizing kids? >> we're demonizing one people
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for being board. >> are some of our students white people? >> what? >> are some of our students white people? >> yes. >> we're demonizing white kids. why don't you just say knit we're using language that makes them feel less than. nothing that they are personally responsible for. >> sean: demonizing white people for being born? what happened to martin luther king's dream of color-blind society, and it gets worse. a father at a very expensive private new york city school is blowing the whistle on new disturbing teachings that obsess over racial divisions. so-called social justice, instead of rigorous academics and bringing students together. here with reaction on this part of it is fox news contributor dan bongino. first your reaction to the tape and the reaction of that father.
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that father pulled his kids out of the school. not an easy school for parents to get their kids into. your take on that and how is that -- how do we get so far away from martin luther king's "dream" speech? >> first, listen, to the father there, if you confront critical race theory, and you're a father like that father did or you're any father anywhere in america this critical race theory will come knocking on your door. listen to me, folks. there is no escaping from this. nobody is coming to save us. there is not going to be some big bold leader, where are the leaders we've been waiting for? nobody is going to save you. it's up to you to confront this critical race theory that's being caught in this school. how do you confront it? one, we need to stop screwing around. it's time to cut the crap. this is racist. critical race theory in its
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essence is racism. it's based on this whole nonsense, knowledge is a construct of power, power is focused with the white mail pate -- patriarchy. basically racist. you're judging someone by the color of your skin. last time i checked, sean, that was the very definition of racism. i know a lot of liberals are too dopey to understand that but judging people by the color of their skin and stereotyping them by the characteristics, they are immutable, has never led to anything good, ever, in the history of humankind. so it's up to more parents like this gentleman to stand up and say to principals and teachers, you're teaching my kid this, if you're teaching it, you're a racist, too, because you're trying to teach my kid to be a racist and it's time to stand up and cut this crap out. this is a cancer on our body politic.
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>> sean: what do you make of the impact of statements by the likes of maxine waters and the double standard? for example, the virtual silence of democrats during the summer when the rioting was happening in almost every major city, and but then, you know, on january 6, their favorite word becomes insurrection, and in the case of maxine waters, you know, it sounded to me that if i was on the jury like a clear threat, that she was sending out there, if we don't get the verdict we demand, and nobody sees the case exactly how the jury sees it, in this case, question have 9:29 that probably was all the prosecution needed in this case, in my view, but that kind of rhetoric and the results of, okay leading to defunding or dismantling police, that's not
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going to end well, dan bongino. it won't end well at all. >> on the maxine waters topic, the best advice i ever got assertions are easy to avoid. questions are hard to avoid. the brain responds to questions so i'm going to ask my liberal friend as question. this can be super dense sometimes, you're telling me trump incited a riot by telling people to go march on the capitol peacefully and patriotally? those are the words, you can read the transcript. i know you have problems with that, but maxine waters was not inciting a riot by walking into a place known for rioting, during a hot trial, and saying if she doesn't get the results she wants, calling for a "confrontation," more confrontation? does that make sense to you? if that makes sense to you, i'm sorry, but you're probably an imbicile.
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i'm not a totalitarian communist. maxine waters is free to say stupid things. i don't want maxine waters prosecuted but i don't want im -- imbiciles claiming trump tried to incite -- they believe in power and they will do and say anything to get there, including throwing principles to the wind which they do every single time. >> sean: dan bongino, as always, thank you. also reactions to our breaking news, former speaker of the house, and fox news contributor newt gingrich. you got the silence of the left all last summer in the middle of riots all around the country, then you've got democrats speaking out loudly about insurrection. forgetting words that donald trump used, many of you will peacefully and patriotically march to the capitol so your
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voices may be heard, and now silence yet again over maxine waters' comments, i find incredible hypocrisy and only selective moral outrage on the part of the democrats and politics plays into this, because this all leans towards defunding and dismantling the police. >> there are two different things here. one is comments like congresswoman talib who wants to dismantle the police and close all the prisons, putting hundreds of thousands of violent armed robbers, murderers, rapists, back on the street. it's a combination, virtually insane. the other is what maxine waters did. i thought kevin mccarthy was exactly right today to move to strip her of her chairmanship. look, the big difference between the right of free speech, which
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everyone has, and the responsibility that a member of the congress has under the congress's own rules, and it's very clear that maxine waters, by going to a place that was already having riots, and making the comments she did in essence saying, she wanted to substitute the rule of politicians for the rule of law, she behaved in a way that i think absolutely deserves to have her lose her chairmanship, and every democrat in the house voted in favor of defending maxine waters. voted against drawing a line in the sand. i think it's a vote that they will regret because i think the country is pretty sick of this stuff. and they understand what's going on, and they realize, you know, these are people who are demagogues, liars, and what's more important, they are costing
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the lives of innocent americans. they are undermining the ability of police to function and they are going to create a situation where our very civilization is a threat from forces that i think are extraordinarily destructive. >> sean: let me move towards, if we -- if this effort, we've already seen massive increases in the murder rate in many cities now across the country, after last year's massive increases. we see the defund effort. we see the impact in cities like new york and places like minneapolis and minnesota, and places like los angeles. dramatic increases in the murder rate and homicide rate. i don't see they ending well, mr. speaker. you're the historian and you're the professor. i don't think you need a harvard degree to understand where that's going to end. >> look, i think it's very clear when it's going to end. you're going to have many americans killed. many more americans wounded.
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you're going to have a situation, and it's all because of policy. this isn't some random anti-it's not like a thunderstorm in the middle of the summer. you have in people like congresswoman talib, congresswoman waters, for that matter, nancy pelosi herself, you have people whose policies are getting americans killed. and we need to have a straight up argument about this. these are terrible policies. they are undermining belief in the police. they are -- seven-year-olds get killed driving through a mcdonald's. that should tell you that the policy of the democrats is an absolute total disaster in terms of protecting americans and that's what we're living through. >> sean: all right. we appreciate you being with us. former speaker of the house, newt gingrich. thank you. we go to civil rights attorney darryl parks, fox news law enforcement analyst ted williams on the ground in minneapolis at the courthouse where the verdict
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was read. darryl, you and i have been at odds on a lot of, i. i don't think we disagree on the verdict today. i wasn't surprised by it at all. i thought the video spoke for itself. but, you know, i know you care about all lives. we lost 103 police officers this year. we also lose every weekend. i can give you a number count, in every major city of the number of people and the number of people shot and murdered and america doesn't know the names of most of those people. when are we going to understand and connect the dots here that we need law and order and safety and security, and that derek chauvin represents the 1%, not the 99% of good cops out there that risk their lives every day like ted williams did in his career. >> sean, let me say this, sean. i think we do agree. today, america is a better
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place, right? this verdict helped policing get better. it helped prosecutors get better. so we're in a better position today than we were before today. so look at the job that the state of minnesota did, one, getting the right prosecutor in place, in mr. elle son, and -- >> sean: you're not -- with all dru respect, you've been a friend of this program many years, you're not addressing what i'm saying here. every week, the murder rates are skyrocketing with this defund and dismantle the police movement, and we sweep, broad sweeping generalizations are made about cops, too, and that's not helping anybody, is it? >> but today we got a little better, though. today we got a little bit betterment today we saw the state of minnesota improve policing. that's what we saw in the george floyd's case. now things are better. >> sean: you come back on the air monday and we'll do a count around the country and we'll see
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how many people were shot in how many cities and how many people were shot and killed. ted williams, your reaction? >> sean, i've got to tell you, the day was a day that lady justice spoke. now, when you think about police officers all over this country, unfortunately, yes, police officers serve and protect and put their lives on the line each and every day. but there are those rotten apples that unfortunately are highlighted and very good and decent police officers are not. but i've got to tell you, during this trial, we saw some of the best of law enforcement. because some of the best of law enforcement broke what's defined as the blue line and they came out and testified against one of their own who they saw as a
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rotten apple. you know, i take my hat off to law enforcement officers. if you just recently looked at television last week, you saw law enforcement officers stop a guy in new mexico, come from around the passenger side -- and was shot and killed. >> sean: another question. >> those things do happen. >> sean: if we really care, you read the numbers every weekend, every monday we can come on this show and we can give out numbers of the number of kids that are shot, people that are shot, in major cities. why don't we care about their lives more? because those lives matter, too. >> you know, you're damn right, they matter, too. >> sean: and cops lives matter. >> absolutely cops lives matter. they go out and they protect us on a daily basis but the problem again is you've got those rotten apples that are highlighted and they shouldn't be.
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we should look at those good cops. and what i suggest, and i'm hoping and darryl is right, maybe this will be a new beginning. maybe this is where police officers will go out into the community, and establish a rapport with citizens in the community. you're right. this crap about defunding police departments, that's a bunch of garbage. >> sean: darryl -- hold on, i've got about 35 seconds for you, darryl, you can't agree with this defund and dismantle the police movement, do you? >> i don't agree with it but i do think it's a chance for reform, sean. that we have to relook at how we do things and how we police. and, for example, in the george floyd case, the negative press release that went out on george floyd that talked about him being a medical case and not really given proper magnification to what happened in the incident itself.
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>> sean: the quick action is more training, nonlethal action for cops and people need to interact better with the police, too. police set your dvr. we're not the media mob. let not your heart be troubled, laura ingraham takes over right now. >> laura: i'm laura ingram this is "the ingram angle" with a packed show from washington tonight. we laura: a pack show from washington. during this hour we are going to be live on the ground in minneapolis where crowds are starting to gather in greater numbers. alan dershowitz, bob woodson, florida governor ron desantis, lera logan and a lot more with reaction. but first, the big lie about america, that is the focus of tonight's angle. a few hours after the data showing guilty verdict was handed down president joe biden and vice president kamala harris spoke


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