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the government's business to know who has not been vaccinated. also tonight conservatives at cpac in dallas today, they're blasting away at lockdowns and progressive runaway spending and more. former president trump is the headliner on sunday. on the show tonight, congressman michael cloud, former white house chief information officer teresa payton, fox news contributor sean duffy, retired army captain and nevada gop senatorial candidate, he is sam brown. also dr. marty makary, former deputy national security adviser kt mcfarland, ford o'connell and tom homan. more on hhs secretary becerra saying the government has a right to know who is not vaccinated because the government has spent trillions of dollars of your money on the pandemic. becerra says he's been taken wildly out of context. he does not say how. plus, the update on this controversy, big tech censorship of conservatives. look at this new report that
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shows google's youtube algorithm actually recommends and amplifies hateful, violent content and misinformation. youtube says it is trying to fix the problem. tonight we also have with us army veteran sam brown. he's going the talk to us about twitter red flag his july 4th tweet of his salute in uniform. and more fallout from that bombshell reuters report that says that china and its military are collecting dna, genetic data from millions of pregnant women around the world for population research and to become an economic and military superpower. u.s. intelligence out with a major warning. we're going to talk to you about it. plus, blowback against the media for touting michael avenatti as a superstar, a presidential contender and for his credibility. we've got the highlight reel on that. he's heading to prison. and top democrat james clyburn now says that defund the police is a real problem for the democrat party.
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it's damaging the party. he's saying it could, quote, destroy the progress i agenda. progressive agenda. ing thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪♪ elizabeth: welcome to the show, you're watching the fox business network. we begin tonight with cpac, the conservative political action conference, kicking off today in dallas, texas. former president trump will be the headline speaker this sunday. lydia hu is in that's with more. lydia? >> reporter: good evening, liz. former president donald trump will take the stage on sunday to address the crowd, but already happening this afternoon there's been open speculation by speakers as to whether he will run again in 2024. watch this. >> i spent the time with him last week in mcallen, and he looked over and said to me, dan, are you ready for one more in
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2024? [cheers and applause] >> reporter: -- conservative voices have been taking the stage this afternoon, liz, addressing some current issues like pushing back on big tech and censorship, pushing back on cancel culture, securing the border and achieving energy independence. we have speakers coming up in just a few moments, donald trump jr. will be addressing the crowd gathered this afternoon. south dakota governor kristi noem and dr. ben carson coming up this weekend. anyone can follow along with live coverage by watching on the fox nation app, liz. elizabeth: lydia, thank you so much. it's good to see you. look who's back with us now, texas congressman michael cloud. we also -- he was appointed by house gop leader mccarthy to the big tech censorship task force and with us is former white house information officer teresa payton. your assessment of president
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biden's trust-buster action today, sweeping executive order to break up monopolies. how's this going to go down? >> well, it'll be interesting to see what happens because i have said for years that big tech, social media must be more transparent around how their governance process works for suspending accounts. suspending people and suspending actual posts and how their algorithms work. and it looks like the biden administration is not taking them at their word that they're going to do better, and he's taking sort of an offensive strike. it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. a. elizabeth: you know, picking up what teresa just said, congressman, what is your take on, you know, the president picking up what republicans are doing, you know, scrutinizing big tech's mergers more closely, looking at the consumer data they can collect. is that good enough or can more be done? >> well, we're going to have to see if the walk a matches the
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talk -- walk matches the talk after today's executive order. of course, that's been an issue with a lot of the things coming out of the white house over the last few months. the thing is we all remember when these big companies were small tech companies, and they were great american success stories, and they were going to do it right. the tragic thing has been to see how the absolute power has caused corruption in those companies and them in what they've done in the last election, in declare themselves -- declaring themselves the arbiters of truth and canceling people from their platforms for voicing their first amendment rights. these are very tragic, a tragic turn of events over the last several years. so we definitely will continue our work to push back on what's happening with big tech. elizabeth: got it. okay, we've got three dozen states and washington, d.c. suing google in an antitrust case about google's power of control over its app store. here's the question about twitter and facebook, if they
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can censor third-party content, why should they get government protection from lawsuits in section 230? if. >> yeah, it'll be interesting to see. obviously, our laws really struggle to keep up with all the technology innovations and transfora missionings. and by the time we decide on a law, this technology's going to change on us and what's hot and what's not is also going to change. but it will be interesting to see if at some point a decision will be made around big tech and social media platforms. will they actually have to not only not have the protections under 230, but will they actually be considered at some point sort of a publisher of content? you know, they do publish the news. they are making sure that, you know, certain posts if they're reported or they hit their algorithms, that they're suspended or not showed as frequently. so they're make decisions around a what's going to be hot and what's not going to be hot that's posted on their
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platforms. and that may actually create a sort of whole new way of looking at them. will they actually be considered more of sort of a news media industry and have to follow those rules. elizabeth: or, congressman, phone carriers, right? they're not public scares. -- squares. they're private companies, the first amendment applies here. but the issue is they are dominating the discourse. there's two or three of them that are really setting the agenda and the national conversation, and because of their lawsuit protection, they get to pick and choose what their ceos agree with or what their culture and companies agree with, right? >> yeah. well, they're publicly-traded companies, and they've grown into almost virtual monopolies. that would be a certain court case to find out where it falls, but the thing that we know from a pragmatic standpoint is they have used their influence corruptively, you know, and that's something we're going to have to look into and make sure that we continue to push back
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on. you know, when we see them basically -- we hook at a what they called science and not science during covid. literally, they've cost american lives when we look at what's going on and the voices they silenced on just different scientific issues over the last little bit. we have to, we have to be bold in standing up to this. we need -- they've definitely, i would say, are publishers at this point because they're making editorial decisions. even just the google algorithm that decides what you see on the first page, you know, there's been plenty of studies to show that that is skewed depending on what's going on even and especially during election cycles to make sure that, you know, conservative content doesn't make it to that first ten, ten items. and so these are definitely editorial decisions, you know? there's going to be a move the bring some is regulation to it. we have to be very careful on how we do that because big companies love regulations because it drives out competitors. elizabeth: got it. congressman michael cloud and teresa payton, it's good to see
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you. come back soon. next up, sean duffy. sean, it's great to have you back on. you're a fox news contributor. youtube is the most visited web site in the world after google. we though that google and youtube have been accused of censoring conservatives. former president trump is naming youtube in a class action lawsuit. here's the thing, a new study out of the mozilla foundation of 37,000 people in 91 countries found that, yeah, youtube's algorithm actually recommends an amplified content -- amplifies violent content. that's a big, astonishing finding. what do you say? >> you know, youtube is about making money for google. and when you have more eyeballs, you have more views and, frankly, you make more money. the problem is that profit is a secondary motive for youtube. their primary motive is american
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politics because they have censored -- as you just had in the last segment -- they care more about shutting down conservative speech than making money off the eyeballs that would come on their platform and watch that conservative speech. and my view is our founders never thought you'd have these oligarchs out there controlling the platforms in the public square in which people commune candidate. i agree with the last can be communicate. and i agree that the government needs to step in and make sure there's an open forum in which all ideas can be expressed. i think we have to preserve it. elizabeth: you know, so 71% in this study found that youtube's videos were disturbing. they included conspiracies about 9/11, conspiracies about the pandemic and much more. and while they're blanking out conservatives, this is going on. so lawmakers have been trying to crack open their black boxes. that's not going to happen. >> no. elizabeth: what is the fastest avenue to getting a true and honest conversation going in this country via these platforms? >> listen, i think you need to break them up, and i think you
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need competition. you look at other conservative platforms that have come online and been shut down, parler being one of them, by amazon, apple and google. the three most powerful companies that control phones and the cloud space were able to shut down a conservative competitor. so again, i think you break them up. you'd get more competition. but, again, liz, i don't want google and anyone saying this is hateful, you know, this is false because they'll apply that standard to conservative speech. i think we should err on the side of letting speech, you know, into the ethos and let people decide for themselves whether it's true or not or let them exam false stories -- examine false stories, laugh at it, dismiss it. we're smart people. human beings have brains. let them come to the truth. having, you know, elites censor what speech can make it on to the platform, what we talk about in this study, that analysis can be applied to conservatives, and it is being applied to conservatives. let's get back to free speech. let's have a debate.
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that's really good. it'll be actually really good for google's bottom line because they'll get more views and advertisers when they let more conservative speech on their platform. elizabeth: yeah, that's interesting. the cure for bad speech is more speech. but, you know, social media's saying they kicked off donald trump because of inflammatory rhetoric about the capitol riots and the fear he was going to incite more violence. >> they also shut down the hunter biden story and the laptop and the tie-in to joe biden right before the election because they were trying to help joe biden win. right? they care about politics more so than profit. but as you see in this study, they do care about profit in some regard when it doesn't affect american politics. and so, again, do i think liberals should hear donald trump? of course they should. should we hear add radical leftists as conservatives? hosk we should. that's how we come to a consensus to listen to each other. and when it doesn't happen, i think you get bad results. elizabeth: got it.
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you're about consensus. sean duffy, it's good to see you. up next, u.s. army retired captain, he is veteran sam brown. he's joining us to break down why did twitter red flag his july 4th tweet of his salute in uniform? he's a purple heart recipient. captain sam brown joins us next e when "the evening edit" continues. >> if he's badly wounded, he's doing everything right in the private sector trying to help his fellow soldiers, he's a great american, and he happens to be a republican candidate for the u.s. senate in nevada. i think a lot of these things twitter should be ashamed of. i don't know if it's because he was a republican political candidate that they did this, but they should issue an apology. and they have to be held accountable. ♪ muck this may look like a regular movie night. but if you're a kid with diabetes, it's more. it's the simple act of enjoying time with friends,
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spend with you and your audience and talk about this important issue. you know, as you know, i am a veteran who served in afghanistan. i proudly served this country. i was wounded and happened to have been rather scarred by the wounds. and so i thought it was rather appropriate on the fourth of july for us to just reflect back on the fact that freedom isn't free. so i have a photo of me after i was wounded in uniform saluting the flag. i posted that and just simply stated that america is still the best nation in this world. that's something i believe in my core. and watched next was really fascinating. first of all, the tweet went viral. for approximately three days, there was over 2.5 million views on that tweet. and what happened after that was rather shocking. i don't really understand twitter's motivation, but they decided to put a sensitivity cover on that photo of me saluting the flag. and it could be that they
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thought my scars were somewhat offensive and needed to be sheltered from people. it could also be that they found the fact that a soldier saluting the flag to be offensive. or worse yet, this censorship came literally hours after i filed to be the republican candidate in the u.s. senate race here in nevada. so the worst case scenario is they're censoring conservatives literally on the same day president trump had his press conference. now, look, we know that twitter is not afraid to censor conservatives. they took down president trump while he was still sitting in the white house. they've already begun ken soring me on -- censoring me on my third tweet on the day that i announced my candidacy. and if, frankly, they're censoring americans all over this country. look, this is getting to the point of why i'm running. the political class, the political elites in this country have betrayed the american people. they've abandoned their values. and i'm running to represent the
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values of real americans, those of us who are, who have just been left behind and had to have the policies and the regulations forced down our throats. this leads me -- elizabeth: [inaudible] >> yep. elizabeth: yeah, go ahead. finish your thought. >> oh, i was just going to say if twitter can to this to president trump, if they've already done it to me as a brand new u.s. senate candidate, they can do it to -- they can fully remove me from this platform. and so i would just ask you and your audience to join people like me, go to my web site, captain sam brown.com. we can stay connected there, because there's no promise that i'll still be on the platform tomorrow. elizabeth: okay. you're a purple heart recipient. you sustained injuries from an ied explosion during your deployment to afghanistan in 2008. your colleagues there were under attack. so you've served our country,
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and you've sacrificed for our country. can you respond to this, there's a black lives matter chapter in utah that is saying that, basically, the american flag is a symbol of hatred and that people who hold up the flag are racists. what do you say to that? >> you know, this is, this is just -- it's tragic. it's, this is the type of divisive language that americans are tired of. it's being parroted by fringe groups, and i heard one of your guests earlier. he said that, frankly, we need to be able to hear these things so that the american people can discern what is right and wrong. but the fact of the matter is americans of all races and nationalities have fought on behalf of that flag. s it is a unifying symbol, and i believe it is offensive to those who have sacrificed for their freedoms that they would say such a thing. elizabeth: all right. captain, it's great to have you
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on. we want to talk to you some more. if you could, we would love to have you come back soon, captain brown. thank you so much for joining us, and thank you for your service to our countriful we'll have you back on. >> appreciate it. elizabeth: still ahead, dr. marty makary weighs in on pandemic pandemonium, is what i'm trying to say. there's mass confusion. growing talk of reinstating mask mandates due to the delta variant. parents are suing school boards over masks, and now the cdc is saying you need to wear a maas -- don't need to wear a massing if you're vaccinated. we've got more on the white house and the hhs secretary, we've got this story next as well. stay there. >> it does sort of reveal that the biden administration, you know, everything within the biden administration at this point is political. but, i mean, this is pretty stunning if you stop and think about it. you know, being pro-choice is out the window. medical privacy is out the window now with the democratic
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variant. what do you say to that? >> there's really no new data that would suggest that mask mandates are necessary right now. and, you know, there's a lot of fear mongering, liz. if you look at the language that we're using, the so-called dominant strain, that it's dominating. and dominating society -- [audio difficulty] low-level infection in society, and most of those infections among the low level happen to be with variant. all covid -- [audio difficulty] this variant is a little more contagious, but all covid is contagious. it's not like it's going to jump 30 feet whereas the other virus could jump a foot or two. we've got to put things in context. elizabeth: okay, you know, the cdc is now saying you don't need to wear a mask if vaccinated inside schools. they want schools fully reopened in the fall. the cdc and the fda is also
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saying fully vaccinated people do not need a booster shot for the delta variant but the teachers unions pushing back against all of that and placing like california -- sacramento is reinstating mask mandates. so you see the mass confusion, right? >> yeah, absolutely. look, people have a right to be upset right now at all the mixed messaging. cdc's lost a lot of credibility. look, i think what they put out today is a good step. it's a baby step, but at least it moves us towards a little more rational policy because in that guidance that they gave on schools, they said specifically something many of us have been begging for, and that is language that said even if you can't meet all of these recommendations, it is important to meet anyway, that schools should not be closed. and they even stated and acknowledged the harm of being out of school. so this guidance, in my opinion, is a step forward. the it's about 15 months late, but it is good. elizabeth: okay. let's talk about this. the white house today walking back the hhs secretary saying it
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is the government's business to know who is vaccinated. xavier becerra now says his comments were taken out of context. he's not explaining exactly how, but let's listen to what he had to say. watch this. >> we should point out that the federal government has had to spend trillions of dollars to try to keep americans alive during this pandemic, so it is absolutely the government's business. knocking on a door has never been against the law. you don't have to answer, but we hope you to because if you haven't been vaccinated, we can help dispel some of those rumors that you've heard and, hopefully, get you vaccinated. elizabeth: that's kind of a weird thing to say, the government has a right to know whether you're vaccinated because the federal government spent trillions of dollars of your tax money on the pandemic? [laughter] >> spending money does not insure the right of the government to do anything. they're not entitled to it. you know, here's the problem, i think a rot of us have suggested for -- a lot of us have suggested for a long time that
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we have mobile clinics go to hard to reach populations, and in they knock on if door there, that's good. that's something we've been doing for a long time, and it may make sense. the problem is what we're seeing is a general change from being pro-vaccine to vaccine fanaticism. and what vaccine fanaticism means is ignoring natural immunities, initiating mandates in young, healthy kids without data to support it and keeping track of people and vilifying those who have chosen not to get vaccinated. we need to respect their decision, make the case. but the idea that they're somehow slowing down our progress in beating the pandemic, no, they do so at their own personal risk. elizabeth: dr. fauci says 99% of the people who are dying are unvaccinated. so how now there's a pushback against the federal government knocking on people's doors. the white house press secretary said criticism of the campaign is a disservice to the country, and she's saying the information
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about, you know, not talking to people about the efficacy of vaccines, quote, is literally killing people. your reaction to all of that. >> well, liz, we've forgotten why we underwent all of these restrictions a year and a half ago. it was because hop hospitals were being overburdened. at this point you as an individual, every american can choose to protect themselves with the incredible ability of the vaccines to save you from severe illness. it's not perfect in testing positive, but it does protect against severe illness. those who choose not to do so pose no risk to public health, they have a risk to themselves, and i think this has gotten out of context. elizabeth: got it. dr. marty makary, thanks for joining us. coming up, more fallout from the bombshell reuters report that we brought to you last night that china and its military are collecting dna data from millions of pregnant women around the world via china's bgi
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group which sells prenatal testing in order to become an economic and economic superpower that will dominate the world. of that's reuters reporting that. u.s. intelligence out with major warning about all of this. kt mcfarland is next. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google, turn up the heat. ♪ ♪ ♪
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mill dare --dna with china's military and intelligence services? your reaction to this story. >> the pieces of the puzzle are starting to come together, and it's not a pretty picture. you remember a year or so ago when there were major data hacks of pharmaceutical companies and health care companies, american health care companies? we weren't quite sure, you know, why would the chinese want to hack that? well, add to that the kind of research they were doing at the wuhan lab where we know that they were working on yet? ic sequencing or getically -- genetic sequencing to make them more lethal, virulent and contagious. part of this there's a legitimate explanation which is china looks at the future, it looks at the technologies of the future and has said they want to dominate all of these technologies. it's things like artificial intelligence, microprocessing, also its bioengineering, biopharmaceuticals. and what they're doing, liz, is they're -- you know, in the good
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old days you would have laboratories where scientists would come up with vaccines, or they would come up with medication, and then they would do trial tests, first on guinea pigs and rats, eventually on people. this is the other direction. they're taking the dna information, unbeknownst to the people who are handing it over, and they're using that dna to then create presumably medication, but maybe there's something, you know -- i worry that there's something more sinister going on, that -- elizabeth: yeah, that's what reuters is reporting, that they could be developing bioweapons. [inaudible conversations] yeah, they're putting out a warning, women, don't use this prenatal test from china's bgi group because they're just giving dna a data to their military and intelligence. two of its units, kt, two subsidiaries are on the commerce department blacklist because
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they've been involved in mass atrocities targeting ethnic minorities like the muslim uyghurs. so this is what this company has been involved in. it's much more. this is just tip of the iceberg stuff. your final word on that. >> yeah. tip of the ice berke. and where does -- iceberg s. and where does it go from here. one of the things the senior chinese leadership have talked about in the concentration camps is they say things like, well, there are too many of them. they're a much higher percentage of the population than they should be, they're reproducing more quickly. this is getting into very scary territory, liz. elizabeth: yeah, it sure is. kt, thanks for joining us. we'll have you back on again soon. it's good to see you. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth: up next, ford coconnell is going to weigh in on the blowback against the media for touting that michael avenatti is a star.
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elizabeth: cnn and msnbc touted michael avenatti as a potential presidential contender in 2020. now he's going to to jail for two and a half years for trying to extort nike. let's welcome back ford o'connell, gop strategist. he also faces charges that could
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supersede the nike sentencing. he faces a maximum 333 years in prison after a federal grand jury indicted him on charges he stole millions of dollars from his client. clients. >> as a lawyer myself, i have no sympathy for michael avenatti. he's a shameless huckster who exploited and defrauded his clients and violated his sacred oath as an attorney. that said, e. mac, i do think that the establishment media should be punished here for enabling this monster's stardom. the red flags were there. they chose no ignore it. elizabeth: all right. let's watch what happened with the glowing coverage of michael avenatti. watch this. >> lately, to me you're like the holy spirit -- [laughter] you are all places at all times. >> you got lucky tonight. we're back with attorney michael avenatti. he is the main player sitting beside me right now, i'm not going to let you cheat, a hint,
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his name is michael avenatti. [laughter] >> he's out there saving the country. >> he's a rock star, i think. >> michael avenatti for president in 2020? >> existential threats to the trump presidency. please welcome attorney michael avenatti. [cheers and applause] >> what do democrats value most? if they decide they value a fighter most, people would be foolish to underestimate michael avenatti. >> michael avenatti's a beast -- >> okay, that's true. he's a beast. >> looking ahead to 2020, one of the reasons why i'm taking this seriously as a contender is because of your presence on cable news. i wrote about this saying you're currently leading the pack among contenders on the democratic side. elizabeth: really? really, ford, really? what, you know, so -- [laughter] listen, let me back up. when you're all standing in the same amen cornerrer agreeing with each other and getting emotional and not just sticking to the facts of the story, you're going to walk into a buzz
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saw of breathtaking stupid by and idiocy like we just witnessed on camera. >> you're exactly right, e. mac, and they took a maul-time, unvetted -- small-time, unvetted lawyer and put him on more than 250 times. he was anti-trump, anti-republican, and he played the part to a tee. they like to turn these people into heroes and run them on a 24/7 loop because they believe if you hate trump enough, that justifies putting a monster like avenatti on the air. elizabeth: so he was on more than half the year in 2018. you know what i mean? he also put forward a client, julie swetnick, who alleged that brett kavanaugh engaged in gang rape. i mean, the lack of, you know, the incredulous way they dealt with this guy, and he represented adult film actress stormy daniel, and now she's saying she feels like a victim because he stole from her too.
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you know what i mean? go ahead. >> they gave him more than $200 million in earned media, and the reason was very simple, it's because he was anti-trump and anti-republican, and they didn't care about the baggage that went with it. to your point about stormy daniels, in 2018 tucker carlson made the point on fox news that, essentially, you pose yourself as a feminist, and you're exploiting stormny daniels. he was of a tax dodge, he had domestic abuse allegations. it was all there. everyone chose to ignore it because he was hating trump and that's what they wanted to hear. and now you want to know why there's no trust in media? this is why. elizabeth: all right. well, you know, listen, this show -- we have put up on camera exactly the things trump has said, you know, the night of the capitol riots. we've covered things that trump has said. you just don't add it to middle
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of the road, just be factual. but what we saw since 2016 was just, it felt like flat out hucksterism, fact-free debates, everybody agreeing with each other, everybody reinforcing their own opinions about things, not drilling down to the facts of what really was going on as major pandemic exploded in everybody's faces because they weren't checking what china was doing, you know what i mean? and checking what the u.s. was doing in funding super virus research in the wuhan lab where china has had a long history of leaks in its laboratories. you know what i mean? we get distracted by the tiny, little stupid things and then the big things blow up. right, ford? >> journalism needs to get back to the facts and the policy as does politics. unfortunately, right now what's happening in journalism is journalists are no longer journalists. they're storytellers, and they're going to tell you their preferred narrative. they're going to drive it home, and they're going to hope that they can convince the
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american -- elizabeth: yeah, but you know what? let me tell you something. it's not just journalism to read "the new york times" and come on tv and talk about it. that's not reporting. that's just being a blowhard. ford o'connell, thanks for joining us. just ahead, former police officer tom homan is here to tell us what he thinks about top democrat james clyburn saying defund the police is a real problem for the democrat party. it's not doing the party any good. he's saying, quote: it could destroy the progressive agenda. that's a bombshell from james clyburn. stay with us. ♪ liberty mutual customizes car insurance so you only pay for what you need. how much money can liberty mutual save you? one! two! three! four! five! 72,807! 72,808... dollars. yep... everything hurts.
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this a year ago, i was on the show and i said every dollar you take away from police will equal more crime in the neighborhood is less police in the longer response time, less equipment, large-scale investigation i was the ice director had a billion-dollar budget but when you get that budget you have to decide what you can and can't do if you take a dollar off a police department your taken officer off the street and i think refinery and their call for defunding is a ridiculous rhetoric. elizabeth: i feel so cynical, these individuals and power have been around for years, joe biden has been around since the nixon administration, nancy pelosi in the chuck schumer since reagan al sharpton since decades now he finally says you have to a focus on inner-city killings after nearly 100 sean chicago you are right why did it take them so long to realize if you defund cops people will get killed let's watch congressman clyburn, watch this. >> i tell you defund the police
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is a non-spotter, look at the result of what just happened in new york city i know what i'm talking about i talked to people everyday and defend the police as around the democratic party, ask harrison who is running for the senate, just ask him asked abigail why i said it, i said it because it is real it is a real problem in 1960 david burns destroying the movement and defend the police will do the same thing to progressive movements today. this kind of slogan is no good. elizabeth: what is with msnbc
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and other anchors who don't get it, look at the new usa today poll and reveals a majority of americans, black people and democrats say yeah, give money to the cops, bring cops back into communities because the majority of people being shot and killed are minorities, the majority of americans say give the cops more money, increase their budgets and more, why have they not been answering the wake-up call that's been ringing off the hook for over a year. >> what is really shocking is what he said this is about doing the right thing for the safety and security, it is about election he is saying is hurting their reelection chances, although some they see the light because it's about the political future and then to get reelected i said months ago yet. enter people like mayor de blasio took a billion dollars at the nypd and had 21 nypd
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officers protecting him and his family. you have all these congressman on the democratic side of the house that want to defund the police, however, they've never defended the capital police and never defunded their security details provided by the taxpayers, i said months ago if you want to defund the police then lead by example and defund security detail first, they will not do this. i listen very carefully, you display that is all about elections we need to change our tune or we will not get reelected. elizabeth: riots in crime got nixon reelected, quick ten seconds, you defund the police at the same time house democrats want to defund the border security. >> meanwhile they have a fence around capitol hill, capital police running them but we can have a wall on the southern
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border protecting americans in this country that is coming across and record rates, criminals or intranet record rate shares or complaining about the rising crime if they did not have the protection of their security details on the capital but we can have security on the southern border, ridiculous. elizabeth: thank you for joining us and thank you for your service to our country, that doesn't browse i'm elizabeth macdonald you been watching "the evening edit", we hope you have a good evening and a good weekend, join us again monday david: an assault on american businesss businesses -- [audio difficulty] the biggest names in conservative politics meeting today in dallas as republicans look to regain control in d.c. plus failing the families of our heroes. one widow's heart-wrenching story. she's just one of half a million americans being met with red tape waiting for the government. i'm david asman, and this is "fox business

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