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♪. ♪. >> president biden new tax increases will finally be unveiled this week. we'll see if his tax the rich to pay for his massive spending plans makes the cut. how everyday americans could pay the price for biden's green agenda. joining us tonight, senator tim hagerty, american action forum, douglas holtz-eakin, fox news contributors marc thiessen as well as guy benson. former nypd detective, patrick bronson, national border patrol council president brandon judd. tonight a infrastructure plan could be bipartisan as a top democrat backs a smaller proposal from republicans. speaking of bipartisan in depth if president biden kept his
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promise of unity as well as digging deeper into campaign promises made, falling short as we approach 100 days in office. democrats feel the pinch of some of biden's policies in 2022, as many americans flee blue states, high-taxed states, shaking up the political landscape. the justice department announces an investigation into other police department as officers around the country are retiring in droves amid more calls to defund the police. finally who is in charge of the border crisis? the white house doubling down that it's not the vice president. edward lawrence in for elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. edward: as we wait for president biden to outline his plans for massive taxing the capital gains
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taxes including top rate including the obamacare surcharge, 43.4% nearly double the current rate of 23.8%. blake burman live at the white house with details. how will they spin this? reporter: we plan to hear from president biden in the upcoming days laying out the american families plan will focus on child care and education. the white house is signaling to pay for this will propose increasing taxes on wealthiest of earners, making more than $400,000, raising the capital gains rate most likely on 40% range for million dollar earners. president's top economic advisor brian deece came in the podium during the briefing and came out with the sales pitch for the president rolling out the plan. the white house continues to highlight say only 3 in everyone thousand american households would be impacted by this change and they contend it would not
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stall economic growth. >> there is no evidence of a significant impact of capital gains rates on the level of long-term investment in the economy. if you look back over the last 30 or 40 years we've had capital gains rates at various rates. we've seen different levels of investment and overall economic growth. you can't identify a meaningful correlation between the two. reporter: here in washington republicans are signaling if this is indeed the plan it is something they would not support. they fear it would stifle investments. here was kevin brady, the top republican on the house ways and means committee earlier this morning. >> after tax cuts and jobs act investment surged in america. as a result it was blue-collar workers it, was local communities that benefited. when you double that tax you have the opposite effect. the american worker are the net loser in president biden's capital gains proposal. reporter: some numbers here real
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quick, according to the tax foundation raising capital gains potentially what the president would be proposing to that 40% level would be the highest rate in decades. certainly edward, higher than many investors potentially would have seen in their lifetime. edward? edward: that graph goes back to 1954. unbelievable. blake burman at the white house there. for more on this let's bring in senator bill hagerty who is on the senate banking committee. thanks for joining us. can democrats actually get this passed through congress though? >> i certainly hope not. i appreciate the opportunity to talk about this tonight this would have a devastating effect on our economy, the exact opposite effect we should be looking for coming out after pandemic. if you want less of something takes it more. you want less capital investment raise the capital gains rate. we need to turn the economy around now. capital investment begets more jobs, economic activity. that is what america needs today. edward: senator, the white house pushing back on this.
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the economic advisor brian deece capital gains raising would not have effect on economy. listen what he said today. >> okay. >> for the highest income individuals, and number two, we can use those resources to invest in areas that we know where there is convincing academic evidence, empirical evidence that investments for example, in early childhood and in our children return enormous dividends in terms of their own academic success, reduce cost,s health care system, economic activity and growth in the future. edward: do you believe him raising capital gains won't affect the economy and two, we'll get some huge gain down the road at some date? >> absolutely it will not help the economy. nor will it increase the investment dollars available for the programs he just mentioned. because people that have capital gains have the ability to time when they realize the gains. they will outwait the biden
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regime. people will not realize capital gains. what it does, traps productive capital. people won't sell, won't release it. won't reduce investment into better higher growth activities it will have negative effect on economy and frankly reduce capital gains revenues this is a nonsensical idea. edward: when you go back to the '70s, the capital gains tax never reached above 40%. now the administration is looking 43.4% with the plus-up charge with obamacare. even john f. kennedy said a tax on capital gains directly affects investment. how do you build that better when you undermine the capital needed to build back? >> you're so right. i've been a businessman my whole life. i served as economic development chief as we brought my home state of tennessee out of the last recession. the way you get more capital investment you make a more favorable environment for that capital. this is the most hostile tax on capital we've seen in my lifetime. edward: is there any reach
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across the aisle with capital gains? will there be any discussion with republicans to try to come to a compromise? >> this is typical of the biden bait and switch. he ran as quote a moderate, as soon as he gets into office he proves he is controlled by the liberal wing of that party. that wing has been very non-receptive to common sense cam approaches to our economy. i hope we'll find a better path, raising capital gains rates will exact wrong direction. i would be in favor of lowering them further. >> could this be the reconciliation process they would have to use for this? we've seen some, some hesitation with senator manchin but will, do you believe this will be worked through the reconciliation process? >> i hope colleagues like senator manchin will realize that something like this would be sew damaging to the economy that they shouldn't use a tool like reconciliation. it is totally partisan. as you saw happen in the last process that they used. not a single republican vote for the $1.9 trillion package that they pushed through. that is in the face of all the
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covid relief done in 2020 that was done on completely bipartisan basis. over 90 votes on every package. if they move this direction it will be again a completely partisan manuever. that is something republicans are wise enough to see, call what it is. this is a job-killing endeavor. the biden administration should not undertake this folly. edward: switch topics, senator, coming up we'll talk about the republican-backed infrastructure plan. do you see an actual infrastructure plan being passed. will progressives pack that other stuff inside of the bill? >> here is a place where i hope we may have real bipartisan support. i was just back home in tennessee this past week. people want to talk about infrastructure. when you actually have the opportunity to put invest in roads, highways, bridges, broadband, something would yield actually return on investment that is something we ought to find a bipartisan solution. i'm more optimistic there. edward: could it be a breakout then? >> i hope so. hard to say right now given this environment. edward: have you had conversations with other republicans or even democrats
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about this issue? >> we've begun the conversation but there is a lot more to be talked about. edward: senator, i appreciate it. senator bill hagerty from the great state of tennessee. thank you very much for joining us. >> great to be with you. edward: coming up next a former congressional budget office director douglas holtz-eakin whether the infrastructure could be bipartisan after a top democrat showing support for a smaller proposal from republicans. you're watching "the evening edit". uh-oh, sorry... oh... what? i'm an emu! no, buddy! only pay for what you need. s without frequent heartburn waking her up. now, that dream... . ...is her reality. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts, for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? keeping your oysters business growing for all-day, allhas you swamped.n.
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♪. edward: senate republicans have outlined their own infrastructure proposal to counter the president's more than $2 trillion plan. the gop package would cost a fraction of that at $568 billion, targeted to infrastructure. west virginia republican senator shelley moore capito says that her party is open to negotiating a price tag. >> we really narrowed the focus on infrastructure to really look at physical infrastructure, roads, bridges, rail, airports, water systems. the president's bill of 2.2 trillion goes far afield from that. so where i think the first starting point we need to have, let's do apples to apples comparison of the physical infrastructure core infrastructure part of his plan but how it matches up with what
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we put forward. edward: joining me now to discuss all of this is former congressional budget office director doug holtz-eakin. is this an area where a deal could be made across party lines that we actually see some bipartisanship? >> it sure looks like it could. if you go through the physical infrastructure components of the so-called american jobs plan, that looks a lot like the same list the republicans put on that piece of paper. you can fine tune it for levels and amounts and distribution across water versus ports and thinks like that but certainly they're in the right ballpark. i think the second thing they have to come to grips with, you can't pay for this with damaging corporate increases, capital gains tax increases that the democrats put on the table. the tradition pay for infrastructure with user fees so that those who are damaging the infrastructure, bearing it out, putting in means to replace and maintain it. that is the step forward and that could be done. edward: but you do have an issue how to pay for it as well as the
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other stuff that democrats are trying to put in this and those two are huge sticking points to overcome. >> well i think you should worry a lot about the other stuff. i watched with interest that clip you ran of nec director brian deece oh, we could invest in all highly productive things that would be great but they're not. you look what they're actually doing, combined american jobs plan, family plan, build back better plan, that collection of things there is a lot in there just social welfare spending. doesn't have a productive return. so you got damaging taxes on one side. non-infrastructure, non-productive investment on the other side. that will not produce growth. they're dreaming if they think this is a pro-growth package. edward: so we've seen last week we heard senator joe manchin actually say that you know a smaller infrastructure package at $900 billion is possibly something that he could do. he is a swing vote on this. you know, how much on edge is this american jobs plan?
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>> i think the american jobs plan is in trouble. we've done some research at the american action forum that looks at the proposals, taking face value, raise taxes, plowed it into quote, productive infrastructure, at best you break even. most likely you hurt growth. they're not plowing it all into productive infrastructure. so as this gets examined more closely over time the key swing voters will start realizing hey, this isn't a favor to the middle class. this is a way for to us have poorer economic growth, slower productivity growth, slower real wage growth and damage to the middle class. that is not a recipe for electoral success. i think they will have to fine tune this so it actually delivers something of value to the economy. edward: so if you do break out parts of this, you get that bipartisan support for the 600 billion-dollar package that republicans want, then do you see democrats coming back through, pushing 1.3 trillion which would put them back at their total with other stuff in it, and the tax hikes through reconciliation? >> well you certainly have that
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possibility. so let's wait until after the wednesday night speech. we'll see what exactly is on the table. i think total will well exceed four trillion. tax hikes necessary to finance it would be very damaging to the economy. so, i don't think republicans want to say okay, if we just get a deal on infrastructure we're fine because they do face the threat of this going through reconciliation. on the other hand if you're a democrat running for re-election, do you want to let the republicans get to vote on the good stuff and you have to take all the bad votes in reconciliation? that is tough place to imagine politics lining up so we do the right thing for the economy. edward: does this become a backdrop for 2020 when looking forward? >> there is no question -- edward: 2022. >> this is the key, right? the president's central ask of the congress is the combined jobs plan, family plan, that he will roll out on wednesday night. that is a job-killer. that is a dangerous thing to run for re-election on.
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democrats will know that increasingly that backdrop will dictate compromises they're willing to make. edward: the corporate tax hike at 28% what we heard floated is a red line for republicans. do you see compromise there? senator joe manchin floated 25% or is that just a red line? >> 28 is too high. at the time the tax cuts and jobs act passed congress, 21 got the u.s. into the middle of pack of our country competitors. to go to 28 puts us way out of line. we're back to the situation before the tax cuts and jobs act we were sofar out of line headquarters started fleeing the united states. saw that every year, 14, 15, 16, perennial battles of benedict arnold firms. the problem was the policy not the firms. why should we go into that. i think might not be 28, 5, 24, 23 is the red line. we have to remain competitive that is the problem with the
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proposals. corporate thing will be anticompetitive. that is worth than advertised. put taxes in at death, capital gains rate is 67%. what happens to family businesses, farms, things traditionally sensitive to capitalist gains rates? i don't think democrats will want to be sensitive to that either. edward: are we in danger getting 1% growth under the obama administration if some policies go forward? >> right now we're recovering from a very deep recession. the economy naturally recovers quickly. we've seen that. there is the 1.9 trillion in spending sitting out there from the so-called american rescue plan. this is done under the cover of stimulus but once that goes away, this is a rest he pefor a recipe for stagnant growth a return to those years. edward: thank you for your time, douglas motion eakin, thank you. >> thank you.
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edward: coming up marc thiessen weighs in whether biden kept his campaign pledge to unite the country. we'll take a deep dive campaign promises made and falling short as biden approaches the 100th day in office. >> just a couple months we were hearing from president biden, newly inaugurated president biden, he would unify the country and work together to have by partisanship. i'm still waiting, mr. president. i haven't seen any of that. what i see so far, it is biden's way for the highway.
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♪. edward: later this week president biden will mark his 100th day in office. so far he has kept his promises or has he moved a little bit too far to the left? and what about his promise of unity? has his policies so far unified the country or further polarized people? let's answer those questions with "washington post" columnist marc thiessen. president biden killed the keystone pipeline, kills of jobs, stopped construction of border wall. he is talking about increasing capital gains, spending another $4 trillion in two new huge packages, one announced, one yet to be announced, has he moved too far to the left? >> oh, no doubt. and, i mean, many of these things are things we expected. this is what happens when you elect a democrat but what wasn't expected was that the central promise of his campaign was to
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unite the country. he literally said i will, the decision by republicans and democrats no the to cooperate with each other is a choice. it is not foreordained. i done this before. i worked in the senate for years. i will be able to do it. i will bring people across the aisle. instead of usualerring a golden age of unity, he has taken issues republicans and democrats united made them divisive. for example, covid relief n the last year congress passed five covid relief packages. every single one of them with overwhelming bipartisan majorities. passing a covid relief package with a bipartisan vote should be a layup. trump did it five times. how could joe biden fail to do it? he used a covid relief bill to pay off all his democratic constituencies. he is doing the same thing with infrastructure. republicans long supported
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infrastructure. this should be a lay up. republicans put forward a 500 billion-dollar bill. work out differences and pass it. instead only 3% of 37% of his bill has infrastructure. is democratic wish-list. he is using infrastructure as pretext. he is making bipartisanship worse under donald trump t was a golden age of unity under donald trump. edward: president biden holds a distinction of third lowest approval rating of than harry truman coming into office. you wrote a editorial about unity, by partisan covid bills passed under president trump. you write this, instead the president turned unity into division by using covid relief as a pretext to pass all sorts of liberal spending project that have nothing to do with the pandemic. so are voters getting who they thought they were electing? >> they are not.
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give you another example. when my old boss, george w. bush came, was first elected the first thing he did was call the most liberal member of the united states senate, ted kennedy, offered to work with him to pass education reform. the result was the no child left behind act. where is joe biden's left behind act? something simple everyone can agree on, reach across the aisle to the most conservative members of the senate to work together on? there is nothing. for example, last year the democrats filibustered tim scott's police reform bill after the death of george floyd because they didn't want to let donald trump have a bipartisan bill signing, have a bipartisan solution to the racial justice protests that were happening. so tim scott offered a bill. he offered democrats unlimited amendments. i will even vote for some amendments. work together and do this they refused. so now donald trump is gone. why hasn't joe biden picked up phone called tim scott invited him to the white house, let's work together on police reform in the wake of the verdict in the george floyd case? he hasn't done that. these are simple things that the president could do.
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we're going to disagree on tons of stuff. we'll disagree on climate. we'll disagree on packing the court. we'll disagree on all sorts of things. there are things he could try to unite the country on. he is not even trying. edward: last 30 seconds, big question, you look at president biden's reputation, center left. you look at the vice president's record senator, attorney general which is pretty far left, who is actually running the country here? >> i think the democratic caucus is running the country. i don't think joe biden is running the country. he is a weak leader who is being pushed around by the extreme elements of his party. when you have a alexandria ocasio-cortez saying how surprised she is, how happy she is with the biden presidency because she and her colleagues are running the show. think about what they added up. $1.9 trillion covid. 2.25 trillion in infrastructure. now we're another 1.8 trillion family package. talking about $6 trillion in 100 days. what is not to like if you're a
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left-wing socialist. edward: interesting, aoc badge she gets to wear around. thank you, marc thiessen. this debate will keep going. we'll keep watching these issues. up next americans are fleeing blue states. high-taxed states shaking up the political landscape. fox news contributor guy benson is here to weigh in on what this could mean for 2022. >> so combination of the lockdown with covid, combination of this decline in the city, the way they're running the city. the way the governor's running the state. you know taxes are going to be very, very high
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♪. edward: new census data is out and the new population numbers will impact many states including california which has suffered historic population loss. ashley webster joins us live with a breakdown from the place that benefits the migration the
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most. florida. reporter: indeed. hi, edward. blue states down, red states up. california losing a u.s. house seat for the very first time in its history. the golden state's delegation now drops from 53 to 52 members. still the highest of all the states but it is down one. all of this according to census bureau data released a few hours ago now that determines how the nation's 435 house seats are allocated. as you can see from this map, new york, another state that has seen an exodus of people leaving will also lose a house seat as a result. falling short by the way by just 89 people from saving that seat but it didn't. five other states also losing a house seat. illinois, michigan, ohio, pennsylvania and west virginia. reflecting a continuing trend of people moving out of the northeast and midwest to the south and west. this has been going on for quite some time. now the loss of a house seat can
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mean a drop in federal funding for a wide variety of projects, highways, schools, social services so on, all based on population. so it does have an impact. now the question is which states will gain a seat as the country's population shifts? well texas, no big surprise will gain two seats although estimates say they could gain as many as three. they were wrong. but it does show the influx of people into the lone star state. florida, another state that has seen a big influx of new residents, also adding a seat where a gain of two had been anticipated. again missing the estimates. also though gaining a solitairely seat are colorado, montana, north carolina and oregon. all of this sets the stage for a pitched battle over redistricting that is later this year. as for the overall population of the u.s. by the way, it came in at 331,499,281. that is up 7.4% from the last
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census 10 years ago but it is the second slowest growth rate in the last 80 years. so the population rate is slowing down. by the way, the fastest growing state in the last 10 years? texas, no. tennessee no. florida, no? utah at 18.4% at the very bottom on the other end is west virginia, actually recorded a population loss of 3.2%. so there you have it, edward. all the numbers. edward: utah is a beautiful place. thanks, ashley. we forced you inside purely out of spite because you're in florida and i'm not. reporter: fair enough. i understand. sure. edward: bring you here guy benson, fox news contributor on all of this and how the impact of the 2022 midterm races. you know, guy for the first time in history california might lose a congressional seat. you have got the sunshine, why? what is going on there? >> well, there is a lot of reasons. one is taxation.
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one is regulation. i know personally multiple people who have left the states of california, new york over the course of the pandemic because of restrictive lockdowns. people say, that is my breaking point. i'm out of here. i'm going elsewhere. the beneficiaries in my friend's case, also lines up with the data, arizona, texas, florida. and so i think one of the interesting things to watch politically is, what exactly are the demographics of the people who are leaving and when think go to other states are they going to vote like those states have traditionally voted or will they vote like they used to in blue states? that is going to be something weighing on the minds of politicians in some of these places for sure because they welcome the growth but that growth is coming from somewhere and that somewhere in the case of california, new york, illinois, very, very blue states. edward: so we could actually see some states turn purple you think or is it too early to tell
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say what florida or texas might do? >> well sure. look, for example, at colorado. look at arizona. these are states that were pretty solidly red for a long period of time and there were folks leaving california. they couldn't handle anymore. it is very high cost of living. it is extremely expensive housing out there. this is not doable for me and my family. arizona is close. that is not. colorado is beautiful. let's move there. those states have purpled dramatically, colorado more or less is a blue state. it is not all because of california influx. that is part of the story. if that will replicate in florida, in texas that is certainly something republican politicians need to weigh and think about carefully as they message to the new arrivals sort of reminding them, welcome, we're delighted you're here. why are you here? let's think that through. lead them by the hand from point a to point b. edward: in the last 30 seconds here new york state lawmakers for example, are looking at a big tax hike.
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are politicians ignoring this problem or learning at all from the loss of population? >> some places absolutely not. just double and triple down on failure. let's keep taxing rich people. let's keep demonizing them. when you see that happen in new york, in connecticut, like they don't know what else to do. they're so used to it. the assumption has been they are going to stay. we'll beat them up if they want to be here, more and more especially over this last year they're learning that is not necessarily the case and a lot of people who fled might not be coming back. it might be a spiral effect if they're not careful which they haven't been. edward: guy benson, appreciate your time this is an issue we follow into the future. thank you. >> you bet. edward: police officers around the country are retiring in droves as calls to defund the police intensify. more than 5000 officers from new york alone gone already. former nypd detective patrick
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papers in 2020. that is a 75% jump from 2019. critics of mayor de blasio say debates over policing practices and the anti-police climate are contributing to the max exodus. for the officers still on the job, the job is getting tougher for them. 31 people were injured in 28 shootings over the weekend including a retired n.y.p.d. officer. we're looking at 71% jump in shooting victims this year compared to this time last year. and remember the nypd disbanded the anti-crimes unit in 2020. about 600 plain clothes officers who took illegal guns off the street. here is the mayor. >> we're here fighting gun violence. we need to turn the corner in 2021 by working with communities to really turn things around. reporter: edward, if you're wondering what about all those
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new recruits, you will remember back in december the nypd only had about 900 new recruits, bringing the total force nearly 2,000 less than what it was a year before that. edward? edward: thanks, ashiah. very interesting issue. we'll bring in here patrick brosnan, former nypd detective, founder around president of the brosnan risk consultants. patrick what is the goal here? we saw the movement to defund the police in minneapolis. the mayor signed a budget taking $8 million from the police department. fast forward, minneapolis is seeing 92% increase in homicides this year, robberies are off. there are calls to add more officers there. so what is the goal of defunding the police? >> first of all de blasio is delusional, let's be clear. i don't know what he is talking about turning the corner on fighting crime but the bottom line until crime becomes illegal again, it is not illegal right now, you will have skyrocketing
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gun violence throughout the five boroughs of new york. de blasio's policies have defunded the police. they have desecrated law enforcement. they have destroyed -- jails. they have disappeared. they're all ds, disappeared on immunity for police officers, my new one, my favorite which defies any comprehension new phenomenon called de-arresting. they're actually arresting people for probable cause crimes in the city of new york and they're being de-arrested, under arrested at the scene because of his philosophy, ideologies and his policies pushing down on new york's finest. it is mind boggling. mind-boggling. >> this "fox news poll" saying 62% of americans oppose reducing funding for police departments to move it to other areas. 33% in favor. this poll was done in the final days of the former police officer now convict, derek chauvin's trial.
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now has the pendulum swung too far on this defunding call and now people are fed up? >> 1000%. the vast majority of people are really good people. they're law ai had booing people. they abide by the rule of law. they realize that without law enforcement, without the police to protect them, they are really, really in harm's way. there is no other way to do it. they don't have civilian authority. there is no jurisdictional authority by civilians to place them under arrest. weapons, so on, it absolutely doesn't work. crime has to become illegal again. we have to come to our senses. the pendulum has swung so far it is mind-boggling. i'm surprised that the numbers of retiring officers is not lower. one of your colleagues mentioned disbanding of 660 anti-time officers in new york back in august. that is a central mistake along with de blasio's other twisted policies. everyone is carrying a gun because they can. they can gary guns because no
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one is searching them. no one is searching them because they're momenting behind the desk in headquarters or online at the pension section retiring this is not what they signed up for. they didn't sign up to be desecrated, diminished disembowleddenned. all ds. edward: very disheartening. >> by all accounts. edward: very disheartening, attorney general merrick garland announced today the department of justice will launch an investigation into the louisville police department in the wake of breonna taylor's desk. do you think we'll see more under this attorney general? >> absolutely. absolutely investigations are certainly very important. they will be fair and judicious. the department of justice has been fair and judicious investigating municipal authorities. if they believe there is a prima facie case to investigate the authority, the municipality, they absolutely should. should leave no stone unturned, no corner where they don't shine a flashlight. don't let elected leaders,
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de blasio frequently in doubt, never wrong, never ever wrong. what in god's name is he thinking? defunding, desecrating, destroying, diminishing, dereleasing prisoners from jails. cutting the police force. putting anti-crime guys behind desks this is the opposite direction. it doesn't work that way. it doesn't work. we are in serious trouble. edward: certainly is a different new york city than what we've seen in the past. thank you, patrick brosnan. i really appreciate it. >> you're very welcome. edward: thank you. still ahead, the national border patrol council president brandon judd is here to weigh in on a new "fox news poll" that shows americans think border security is worse under president biden but who is really in charge of this border crisis? the white house says it is not the vice president. >> look, they don't want to fix this. this is, this is buy design. so you know, they're not going to fix this at all. what is happening on the border right now, i'm sick and tired, personally, i'm disappointed at polls. the polls should be 100% against
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♪ >> so by a wide margin, americans say u.s. border security is worse than it was
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two years ago. 46% of voters say it's worse while 33% say it's the same, 15% say it's better. the numbers far different from june of 2018 where only 17% said border security was worse. part of the problem could be seen in the numbers. more people have crossed the border illegally so far this year than in all of 2020. joining us now is national border patrol council president brandon judd. the mayor of you that, arizona -- yuma, arizona, said the u.s. government has become a de facto part of the smuggling for the cartels as families cross the border. what do you think about that statement from a border city mayor? >> he's absolutely correct. what, in fact, the united states government is doing is they're completing the smuggling cycle. when people cross the border illegally, they pay truck smugglers, human smugglers a large amount of unmoney, then they come ott to the united states, they get released, and they're able to continue their
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journey to wherever they're going whether that's des moines, iowa, chicago, illinois, miami, florida, they're going throughout the united states, and they're being released there by the federal government after criminal cartels make billions of dollars every single year. ed: so you probably saw that vice president kamala harris on another network saying she's focusing on covid and trying to make it to the border for a visit. we learned late today she will go to guatemala by the end of june, so the white house press secretary saying this now to fox news' peter doocy. listen to this. >> first, vice president harris says she has not gone to the border yet because we have to deal with covid issues. what is she referring to? >> well, i certainly have to ask her team about that specifically, but i will tell you also that her focus is not on the border, it's on addressing the root causes in the northern triangle. and that's why the majority of her time has been spent on
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working with diplomatic level. ed: so her focus is not on the border, who's watching the border? >> you know, as somebody who puts on a uniform and goes out and polls the border on a daily basis, i can't tell you how disappointing that statement is. i wish i could tell you with a straight face that the american government has control of our borders. unfortunately, i can't. cartels, criminal organizations, they control everything that is happening on the border. they understand what they need to do. they flood us with unaccompanied children. they flood us with family units knowing that it overwhelms our resources, pulling our agents out of the field which allows them to create artificial gaps which then allows them to smuggle in dangerous criminals. it allows them to smuggle in drugs which are going to the inner city, going to the suburbs, and it's killing our children. yet we don't have a vice president that is willing to come to the border and see for herself exactly what's going on.
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that is bad government. ed: so in a fox news poll when asked how much the increase of immigrants on the border is due to president biden, 18% said mostly his false. is so those two are more than half of americans polled. so is this administration being pegged with this crisis now? >> they should be. and i hope that more and more americans willing to tune in and do their research and understand what is driving this summer. it's policy-driven. it's driven by policies here in the united states. as long as we -- because president trump got rid of that catch and release magnet that drew so many people here, when president biden reintroduced that magnet, that is the root cause. so when vice president harris says that she's going to go to guatemala to address the root causes, all we have to do is look at right here in our own country. catch and release is the root cause that draws people here and
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invites them to cross our boards illegally. we have to address that, and when we do, we will drop illegal immigration to lows again. president trump has already proved that. it was like a light switch when he implemented the protocols, illegal immigration dropped to historic lows. all we have to do follow that example again. ed: in the last 30 seconds, you don't believe that going and propping up another government is the way to stop the flow. >> the united states has never been good at building other governments. why should we go in and give money to a corrupt government already for them to keep it in the rich people's hands? we have to address the issues here in the united states, not in another country. ed: thank you, brandon judd. i appreciate it. this is a story that's not going away as the weather warms before it's dangerously hot, we're going to see another influx. thank you, brandon, appreciate it. so i'm edward lawrence in for elizabeth macdonald. you're watching "the evening edit" that does it for us.
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for taking the hour and having the interesting debate with me. we're going to be following all of these stories and more. tomorrow on "mornings with maria," more coverage about what the the president could say to the joint group of congress. back to you. ♪ ♪ larry: hello, everyone. to "kudlow." i'm larry kudlow are. great to be with ya. two big stories in today's "wall street journal." what wall street is telling us about the u.s. economic outlook, that's one. and the west looks past covid-19 and sees economic resurgence with, that's another. now, i thought the first story, i mean, they're both important stories, don't get me wrong. i thought the first story was a little soft. yes, it credited government stimulus and vaccines for the booming economy. i don't know, the stimulus is so short-lived. it did help

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