tv Mornings With Maria Bartiromo FOX Business July 31, 2019 6:00am-9:00am EDT
♪ ♪ maria: big show this morning, fox business network dagen mcdowell wall street journal editor mat murray and cfo strategist lindsey bell. great to see you this morning. >> good morning. maria: a lot to talk about today, big night last night and big day today, top story this hour 2020 democrats facing off and sounding off in detroit, economy, jobs and trade, hillary vaughn was there, round 2, part 1 of democratic debate, she joins us live, good morning to you, hillary. >> good morning, maria, well, gang of moderates teamed up against prominent progressive
senator bernie sanders and senator elizabeth warren at the debate last night tackling topics like climate change, tariffs and trade. >> you outcompete them and put chief manufacturing officer in place to make sure we rebuild the manufacturing base, we have to fill the factories, we have to fill them with workers that are making batteries, charging stations, making sure making solar panels. >> senator warren's plan basically that she would put out we would not be able to trade with the united kingdom. we would not be able to trade with the eu, it's so extreme. >> thank you, congressman. >> what the congressman is describing as extreme is having deals negotiated by the american workers for american workers. american workers want those jobs and we can build the trade deals that do it, people want access
to our markets all around the world, then the answer is let's make them raise their standards, let their workers unionize, environmental standards before they come to us and say they want to be able to sell product. >> anyone here thinks that corporate america gives one damn about the average american you're mistaken, if they can save 5 cents by going to china, méxico or vietnam or any place else, that's exactly what they would do. >> warren and sanders spent most of the time taking on everyone else on stage defending like the green new deal. democrats need guts to do big things like shutting down fossil fuel industry and called the work criminal activity, when challenged about some of the points in green new deal came up, elizabeth warren said those are made-up republican talking points, maria.
maria: hillary vaughn, what a night, your reaction? dagen: who doesn't hate elizabeth warren hate, who doesn't bernie sanders hate? american corporations are destroying the planet, they don't care about their workers, it is the evil insurance companies and the evil drug companies that are making people sick in this country. if elizabeth warren and bernie sanders won the night last night, then donald trump gets reelected next year. maria: she kept saying i bought ceo's and i beat them, i fought this one and i beat them, i don't know, i don't understand what she was saying. >> they are going against the moderates, that was clear, representative john delaney did key playing key moderate and going forward it's the two of them distancing themselves.
dagen: bernie sanders tried to stand out by cursing, that's always a losing proposition. [laughter] >> i don't know it worked for donald trump in 2016. i thought it was a great point because the race for democrats has been going left, going left, a line was drawn last night, a number of candidates on stage oppositional and talking about winning and not just building the left which is interesting, whether that sticks i don't know, different dynamic that we have seen. >> tim ryan, that would be john hickenlooper, klobuchar. >> they are focusing how are we going to win, what is the public going to want instead of going which is different dynamic. >> i don't know if they will get past tom pérez and getting the focus, he really has to show progressive, you know, guts.
>> that's how it's been so far and that seems to be where the energy is. we will see if there's any change in the momentum. dagen: energy also with mare -- marian williams. i think her name was the most googled. maria: i loved watching her, she's terrific to watch. dagen: it's something hopnotic about her voice. she married by the way elizabeth taylor, efficient at wedding when michael jackson -- >> on the medicare for all, the hospitals will save substantial sums of money because they will not be spending a fortune and all the bureaucratic things they have to do today.
second of all, you maybe you did that and made money off of health care but our job to launch a healthcare nonprofit. >> his math is done, well documented that if all the bills were paid at medicare rate, which is specifically, i think it's in section 1200 of their bill, then many hospitals in this country would close. i've been going around all america and asked hospital administrators one question f all your bills were paid at the medicare rate last year, what would happen and they all looked at me and say, we would close. >> it matters when we say that our law that we would lock people up who come here seeking refuge and who come here seeking asylum and that's not a crime and as americans, what we need to do is have the same system that keeps us safe at the border but does not criminalize mothers fleeing here.
>> right now if you want to come into the country you should at least ring the doorbell, we have asylum laws, i saw the kids in grand rapids, it's shameful what is happening but donald trump is doing it and even if you decriminalize which we should not do, you still have statutory authority, the president could still use authority to separate families. so we've got to get rid of donald trump, but you don't decriminalize people just walking into the united states. maria: joining us mercury management director and former camp cane communication's director brian along democratic strategist from obama campaign field director robin byro. robin, let me kick it off with you, your reaction, seems like there was a moderate verse, progressive style on stage sort of clashing. >> yes, but the good news is that we have options and that's fantastic because really only about 20% of the electorate identifies as that liberal.
for those they've got candidates, they've got elizabeth warren and bernie sanders and i guess marian williamson. maria: 20% only identify as that progressive, then yet that seems to be the theme of the party every day not just 20%. >> that's because policies win in primary, now as we all know going in general they will dial it back just like barack obama did in 2008, these are winning issues in primary. maria: brian, how do you see it? >> the extremists have taken over the democratic party, let's look at elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, top of the polls, tim ryan is not there, that just saying to me energy is in 20% and the 20% will decide candidate for president. health care for illegal aliens is extreme positions, those
aren't interesting positions. >> let me ask you something, brian, is the anger from the democrats working for them or sit going to catch up with them, one thing they have in common is they are very angry on many fronts. maria: they are upset about donald trump, that's for sure. what do you think, robin? >> oh, yeah, the anger is very real but one thing that did resinate was that every one of them came out for strong border protections, we have to shut down the narrative that we are for open borders. >> no, that's -- that's what your candidates are spousing, that's what they openly said they want. >> no, no one said they want open borders. >> decriminalizing -- maria: did they vote against sanctuary cities. >> point taken. maria: they voted that they want open borders.
>> i just -- open borders thing is a non-starter, we have to get away from that. not enough of them -- maria: all the things that they don't vote for so that's why it suggests that they vote for open borders, what were you going to say, brian? >> listen, it's the only reason that the democrats are talking about the border is because president trump has been shouting about it for the last 4 years, you know, it's finally great that the media and the democrats have decided that there's a humanitarian crisis at the border but their solutions aren't solutions, they want to shut down dhs, decriminalize border crossings, julian castro said that. what i saw last night was that aoc primary, everybody trying to get the most extreme position so that she can tweet something nice about they -- them.
the country is not where extreme liberals are today. dagen: robin, i don't know how you moved to the middle after you promised 180 million american that is they will lose private insurance coverage and people hate health insurers, they actually don't, if you get your health insurance through your employer people are perfectly happy with that and they are not being honest and they will get hammered on it. bernie sanders medicare as we know it, the hospital fund goes broke in 7 years, broke, we will be able to pay out 89 cents on the dollar in benefits through tax revenue and he's talking about okay, medicare for all, we know it's all horse hooey and he needs to get called out on it. >> that's where joe biden is at a win coming right out of the gate because this is -- i agree with you, dagen, nonstarter. maria: former vice president will take the second stage
today, faceoff against california senator kamala harris again, what are you expecting there, more fireworks between the two? >> yes, i do. at least she will be getting away from busing. more interesting to see what julian castro is going to say and cory booker. maria: good point. so brian, you think that the showing last night, what, you said that it helps president trump, what about tonight, you've got, you know, joe biden in the lead there in terms of the polls and he's considered more moderate? >> i mean, listen, joe biden is going to have to defend last 8 years of barack obama and the democratic party, those conflicting feelings there, let's not forget the obama was the deporter in chief and joe biden was the deporter and deported more illegal aliens and
that's tough to defend in democratic primary and castro is a good contrast and can talk about those things, with the extreme radical, the left, the liberals in the democratic party, biden, he's thinning on ice, melting fast and hoping that his record doesn't catch up to him. dagen: even after the hits he took from kamala harris in the first round of debates he still got strong support in south carolina, strong support in mississippi, and the 60% of the primary voters in south carolina, i think, 60% are black voters and so that is going to be critical for his path to the nomination and he's still in the lead in the overall polling. maria: how do markets in wall street view last night, lindsey? >> the markets are worried about the fed is going to do today, they are worried more about the election as we get into next year and second half of next year. maria: we will leave it there, great to see you, thank you so much for joining the conversation, plus apple, the
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maria: welcome back, investors in apple taking a shine to the latest earnings, cheryl casone in headlines, cheryl. cheryl: apple shares higher, coming better than expected after bell last night, revenue rose 1%, 54 billion, earnings per share expected to fall, the company as you can see, the stock up quarter percent in premarket. the god news iphone sales but revenue grow in any other area
including sales from services, 13%, shares of apple, the regime maybe trying to further pressure the united states as two countries are struggling to set up fresh nuclear talks. well, judge found no wrongdoing in federal lawsuit by the democratic national committee, democrats sued the 2016 trump campaign and wikileaks claiming they worked with russia to seal committee materials, president trump praised the decision, here is what he tweeted. the judge said the dnc case was entirely divorced from the facts, yet total and complete vindication and exoneration, maria, wrote the president on that decision, those are your headlines. maria: all right, cheryl, thank
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alan mccartney. expecting the first cut since 2008. >> big one. maria: all priced into the market? >> if you asking, i think it's overpriced into the market which is part of the issue. obviously pressure from the white house, pressure from what happened in december and the way market reacted, though, the expectation is we see 25-basis point rate cut today and we actually think you maybe get 50-point rate cut that's placed into the market. maria: today? >> today, what's based in the market and having strong quarter, leading indicators are strong yesterday, we saw some purchasing power numbers that came out and we are really quite frankly overwhelming, so we glass half full and half empty and people are reading it clear what the markets are expecting.
maria: lindsey you said the earnings period are looking good, beating estimates, growth of 2.1%. >> exactly, economic data is coming in better than expected just like you said, so the question is going to be what is jay powell going to signal for future rate cuts because that is really what depends on the market, is this going to be by the rumors, sell the news type of deal. >> exactly, like in the last updates we have gotten from the fed, whether it's from jay powell testifying in front congress, i think the devil will be in the wording, a lot of questions regarding some of the different ways that the federal reserve has put forward for evaluating things like inflation and we really are in unchartered territory, but, again, we are seeing a lot of strength, we recently came out with our investor survey which we do
quarterly and it's -- it's, you know, it's pretty positive, people are investing, people are, you know, overarching concerns about politics and certainly trade but businesses are overwhelmingly hiring, people are overwhelmingly putting money into the markets so you sort of have these -- maria: business investment was down. >> business investment has been an issue as the fed cut make big difference assimilating that. >> i think it is, to the extent that you have some of leading indicators and access to capital already free-flowing imagine that at 50, 7 know, i think that we are going to try to spur this economy clearly and defer and deter a recession going forward but things don't look so bad and we are actually expecting rebound in some of the -- in the earnings going forward globally not only in the u.s. but we will see how all this works but i think other federal reserves are going to be looking
to the u.s. as we expect europe to cut down as their very, you know, loose and supportive policies in china, so we will see. maria: which is the reason the fed is probably cutting, the central banks lowering rates and stimulating. dagen: when you get an yield curve starting in the spring, the fed needs to lower those short-term rates in order to get banks to lend, the banks are in a bind when you have higher short-term rates and longer longer-term rates and there's no interest rate merge in lending, the market is sending the signal to the federal reserve and what it needs to do and to keep the banking, the money from the banks falling in this country. in 95 and 98 the federal cut 3 small cuts and the economy did avoid a downturn and in '98 it
looked a lot worse, we had the russian debt default, long-time capital management blowing up and president being impeached if you want to talk about what was going on in washington and we did not end up in recession until i think it started in early 2001. maria: so what are you telling clients right now, you want to buy stock? >> the truth is it's hard to sell stocks, a lot of people trying to take money out of the market but when you think about the other alternatives to invest in, there's not a lot out there, the u.s. is definitely the place to be putting money, now we are at historically above where, you know, pe levels and trading, and there's still room to move, it's not like we are at historical highses. maria: yeah. >> we are putting money in u.s. market, staying diversified, we have serious cash positions, others are smaller to japan, you know, to, again, the u.s. and within the consumer
discretionary and consumer services areas that are robust and low unemployment and healthy consumers can push, we definitely, a point in the cycle, the point for clients that you not only want to be diversified across and globally but fixed income, have cash on the side, some clients are definitely buying protection and insurance full out in terms of buying. maria: we will see what happens today. >> thank you. maria: thank you so much for being here, ellen mccartney. fed meeting and the decision of the rate cut, that's at 2:00 p.m. eastern, i will be joining charles payne and colleaguing, later on today join us this afternoon on the fed, meanwhile breaking news, general electric earnings are out, you saw it on the screen, ashley webster with more details, ashley. >> good morning, digging through the reports, headline numbers first on earnings per share, 17 cents, the access -- estimate was 12 cents, also beat for ge,
28.83 billion, estimate 28.68 beat on the revenue. now unchanged, kind of a mixed bag when you go through some of the headlines, this is a big generator of revenue as it tries to figure out how it's going into the future, 26.8 billion, segment down 1.3%, they are also saying with the aviation segment again big part of the company with the engines that they make, as of june 30th, they had about 2.1 billion of net assets related to the 737 max program we know that program has been grounded, maria, and ge says if that continue it will have a negative impact, of course, on their production of those engines, but overall, it's good on major headlines but big deeper and perhaps a little weakness in some areas.
maria: all right, stock is flat right now, thanks so much, ashley webster, apple the stock to watch this morning, the company reporting overall revenue growth even though iphone sales slumped, we will give you details, stock is up 4% and google glits and glam, hollywood elite heading to climate change conference but definitely not carpooling it, the controversy about the choice of transportation coming up back in a minute. (vo) the ant mindlessly marches on.
maria: welcome back, good wednesday morning, good morning to you, it is wednesday july 31st, fed day, top stories this morning, 6:33 a.m. on the east coast. the big day for earnings this morning, general electric with double beat moments ago but also warning that it could be feeling the pain of 737 max grounding.
central banks expect today cut rates if r the first time since 2008 since great recession ahead of the decision futures are higher, take a look at markets, dow futures up 60 points, s&p futures up 4 and nasdaq futures higher by 25. yesterday stock dropped after china will not come through and going to get tougher after 2020, according to chinese state media, trade on or abouters will -- negotiators will meet in the united states, european indices are mixed, ftse 100 down 45 but cac quarante down 2 points and dax in germany up right now. posting biggest monthly jump in 2006, welcome news for region that cannot generate any growth. there's also some signs of slowdown in china, activity contracted for the third month in a row, we will have the
numbers coming up. shanghai composite down, hang seng and hong kong down one and a thirty percent. trying to keep president trump off the ballot, controversial move california governor gavin newsom making this morning. italian summit, focus of the conversation, though, climate change, more on the hollywood hypocrisy today. massive brawl on the diamond, find out what caused the fight that cleared the benches, what a night. apple earnings, double beat on adjusted earnings per share last night, revenue up as well in second quarter. apple credit card will be unveiled next month, the stock is up, lindsey bell, what's your reaction? >> i think this was a good report, it wasn't all that outstanding, the great news was what was happening in china, china revenue declined 4%, they are riding the ship there, 2
quarters prior it was down over 20% in two consecutive quarters, they are doing things like cutting prices, offering trade and financing to help really pick up the region there, now on the service's side sales were up 13% which was a good number, but people were looking more like 15% when you add foreign exchange, they were up 18%, investors with giving path and guidance was really great, i think what you are seeing here and across industrial and tech earnings is that the trade and tariff situation in china is actually manageable because china is a huge business for the company. >> the other thing is that there are product exclusions, should the president decide to put the final tariff on the 325 billion of remaining goods coming from china, there's conversation happening that there are certain product exclusions, i wonder if that's so widely used like the iphone would actually get a product exclusion, just throwing that out because that's been the worry now. >> tim cook made a big deal about manufacturing in the
united states and clearly in talks with the white house, so something going on there. look, on the services i want to echo, lindsey, this is a better quarter than the first two quarters to have year which was rough, the guidance was good, they are making service's transition despite falling bit short of expectation,ics phone -- iphone sales are continuing to slow. i think it's making a turn for them than last couple of quarters. dagen: china could be a big trouble spot for apple, hauwei touting its product in the nation which the wall street journal writes, touting its product as the patriotic choice for chinese consumers, don't buy apple, buy hauwei, we are in the fight with the united states, but i highly doubt that the iphones assembled in china would get hit ever with a tariff,
certainly not going in election year because the white house and the president have benefited people really not feeling consumers feeling the tariffs up front, but you might start seeing that over the holidays, you've heard say sony talk about the police station and -- play station and tariff. maria: that will be among -- dagen: right. maria: the other things about hauwei, i mentioned in the air, even with all the pressure of hauwei, the company had gained market share against apple and against others, i mean, it is the largest smartphone maker, i believe, it's actually gave -- gain market sharing in the last quarter. >> i think it's interesting the news of hauwei release of first half earnings going into this week where u.s. and china are having these trade -- exactly.
even i know the wall street journal report that you just mentioned but tim cook said on the earnings call that he's not seeing any nationalist big boycott against the iphone in china, i don't know if we are talking two sides -- >> apple is not gigantic presence in chinese market, i know chinese are sensitive on hauwei and how it's being talked about and u.s. campaign has not really taken route around the world despite pretty aggressive efforts by the administration and it's an issue of the united states, but i don't think it's made many inroads -- maria: europeans are still fighting, getting rid of their hauwei infrastructure even after secretary pompeo said, we are not going to share as much information with you. moments ago u.s. and chinese trade negotiators said they will meet in the united states for next round of talks in september after trade talks underway in shanghai right now, the president spoke about the negotiations yesterday. >> we have people in china right
now negotiating with china, we will see what happened, we are either going to make a great deal or not a deal at all but a lot of great things are happening and our country has gone way up in terms of the difference, number one economy in the world, picked up tremendous in the last years since i've been here and a lot of great things are happening. >> you have to believe that the u.s. economy has been hit more? >> i think that's clear, they are probably headed to a small deal despite what the president just said, both sides want to get something done and show that some of the animosities are off to sides, the big mela deal are very narrow. maria: i totally agree with you, i'm not sure that i am expecting a deal anymore. if the chinese cannot stop stealing intellectual problem, how are they going to do any
deal, you can't do a deal just with china buying more stuff. >> both sides have interest in domestic political purposes in having some transactional deal, as dagen was saying from the united states' perspective in buying soybeans and in china to tamper the temperature down a bit. maria: for sure. dagen: the president's fictionation on deficit, he might be satisfied with that, ultimately that's what he thinks resinates with the voters as opposed to china stealing from u.s. companies. maria: we will see, faa investigation reaching troubling conclusion, two fatal crashes of boeing 737 max jet, we have been following this as well in terms of stock, cheryl casone with more details, cheryl. cheryl: new report out this morning, maria, something else, internal risk analysis after
first crash of 737 max, crash that happened last year, high probability that a similar cockpit emergency could happen within months this is according to report that came out in wall street journal. faa analysis show it didn't take that much for similar malfunction to occur, as we know second crash happened in ethiopia, boeing fixing system which is being blamed in both disasters, slightly higher for bowing in premarket. samsung is feeling the pressure, weaker demands for smart phones, hurting the bottom line, second-quarter profit tumbled 53% from a year ago although it still managed to beat the estimates, companies facing far out from pullback in global spending and u.s.-china trade tensions which you were talking a moment ago. the world's rich and famous are set off -- setting off for italy to talk about climate change but turns out they may be
contributing to it. a listers, president obama, prince harry, leonardo depap -- decaprio, a thousand kilograms of co2 will be released, there you have it. we have seen this before, by the way. they are like, save the planet, i've got 5suv's that i need to travel in today. dagen: do as i say and not as i do. they should all go vaguan and couple everywhere they go. leo is a veg and everybody else needs to be a vegan. maria: i don't see that happening. bej-clearing brawl, massive brawl, what starked straight
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>> you could feel it brewing and brewing. jared: pirates pitcher who used to play college basketball at st. john's charged at pirates dugout and got stung by swarm of yellow, he got into it with the rival manager clint who was celebrating birthday. among cincinnati players ejected yasiel puig. he kept playing and fighting and defending his teammates who are no longer his teammates. the indians get yasiel puig. saturday he threw a tantrum, baseball from pitcher's mount over the fence, move he was fined for. the head coach of the united states woman's soccer team
stepping down officially in october, 52-year-old english-born coach led the united states to titles to two world cups, coached since 2014, will remain with the squad as they begin the world cup victory tour kicks off saturday in rose bowl against ireland. on dirt track friday in minnesota blew out engine in first lap and heckled by a fan when he socked the fan right in the jaw, tony stewart is tony stewart. maria: a lot of fighting. jared: how about this, fighting is all-time low in national hockey league. maria: all right. jared: that was the support that everybody fought. maria: and tony stewart. jared: what do you think of tony? dagen: i know him. maria: we know, that's why we are asking you? >> you're retired, not bringing as much income, maybe don't hit
somebody. jared: some nasty words thrown but we will see where this goes. [laughter] dagen: sticks and stones, my friends, sticks and stones. jared: punches will cost you. maria: do they not know they are being filmed? jared: i mean, that was like, have you ever seen the movie grand terino, swinging away, yasiel puig extends it. he might be a great teammate defending guys he's not playing for, wow. maria: really. jared: time-out in baseball, i guess you get traded. maria: during game. how do you trade during the game, i was questioning that when you were reading? >> the word got around that he had been delved and he gets into
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maria: welcome back. good wednesday morning, everybody. thanks so much for joining us. i'm maria bartiromo. it is wednesday, july 31. apple's strong third quarter, the stock is up this morning, set to add 60 points to the dow jones industrial average, even as iphone sales declined. ceo tim cook says the decline was actually good news. we'll tell you why. countdown to the federal reserve's decision, the central bank expected to cut interest rates today, first time since the great recession back in 2008. markets and the health of the economy on tap right here. futures right now getting a lift from apple, trading up, 60 points, quarter of a percent on the dow.
s&p futures up 4 and a quarter. nasdaq higher by 25. general electric out with a double beat. it raised its profit outlook. the company's cfo is stepping down and the search is underway for a replacement. the stock is up almost 5%. we've got more on that coming up. yesterday, the markets slipped after president trump made a comment about china trade talks, saying that china does not come through on its agreements and warned china not to wait for the 2020 election to do a deal. trade negotiators will meet again in september, this time in the united states. mnuchin and lighthizer are in shanghai today. markets this morning globally are mixed. take a look at the europe indices, fq100 down 50, cac up 4, dax up 36. germany was down big yesterday. the consumer strengthening in germany. retail sales posted the biggest monthly jump since december 2006 in germany. in asia markets were down as hopes of a u.s.-china trade deal happening any time soon
diminished. we have new economic data today. factory activity contracting for the third month in a row. the hang seng was the worst performer. democrats going head to head last night on the economy, immigration, healthcare. we've got more big moments from last night's debate. the high cost of higher education, parents taking extreme measures to get a break on tuition, giving up guardianship of their kids. all those stories l coming up this wednesday morning. joining me to break it down, dagen mcdowell, the wall street journal editor in chief, matt murray and investment strategist lindsey bell. great to see everybody this morning. what are you looking at? dagen: trade. i want to know, do the markets -- lindsey talked about this all year. do markets need to see a trade deal before the end of the year. that was the prediction. >> listening to industrial and tech companies, i think what they need to see is non-escalation of trade conflicts. and no increases in tariffs. as long as we can drag this
thing out, the companies are able to deal with the tariffs currently in place. maria: the longer we go without a usmca ratified is going to be unnerving, right? i mean, now -- yesterday we had a couple guests on who said they expect it will come to the floor in the fall. what is going to move nancy pelosi to move usmca to the floor, get a vote, matt? >> i don't think she's got a lot of motivation, other than to show -- the one thing that might help her move it is to show the democrats are moving legislation, are getting things done, aren't just sort of pursuing unrealistic policies but are trying to show a record of achievement. that might help. i don't think she's particularly strongly emphasizing this. maria: a lot of people think if it does come to the floor it will pass. dagen: what will make her monday of it is knowing that republicans only need to win 18 seats, 19 seats next year to win back the house so she'll move on that if she thinks the house is
in jeopardy. >> if she thinks the democrats need the that win, they'll do it. maria: we're watching the economy, the adp report is coming out. a big story on apple, the stock is on the move after an earnings beat, reporting earnings of $2.18 a share versus an estimate of $2.10, that was better than expected. revenue was up, following back to back revenue declines in the previous quarters. guidance topped expectation, pushing apple's market cap back towards a trillion dollar territory. iphone sales did slump in the quarter. customers holding onto smartphones longer weighing on the results. the stock is up this morning, 4 and a third percent on apple, joining us right now is research senior equity analyst, angelo zino. how has the reporting season going so far? >> overall, i think it's been better than expected.
i think kind of the key for apple as as well as for the broader coverage area that i cover is companies are beating fairly low -- a very low bar, in terms of guidance as well. the expectations have been fairly low and they're exceeding expectations. i think a lot of that specifically is coming out of china. i think you're seeing better than feared numbers coming out of that region specifically. maria: it's the guidance that everybody cares about. what do they think about the rest of the year and going into 2020, right, and the guidance you say has been better than expected. >> absolutely. when we look at apple specifically, if we were to take the one big take-away out of the quarter, it comes down to china. china was down 4% year over year this quarter compared to down 22% and down 27% the last two quarters. so again, the trajectory much better than expected. we expected stabilization out of china to start coming closer to the december quarter when you started seeing kind of the more favorable comps on that side of
things, came two quarters earlier than we anticipated. >> angelo, broadly how does the global economy look for a lot of the companies you're following? china as you say is an issue, they really slowed down. europe is not in good shape. the u.s. is hanging in pretty well at this point but how long can the u.s. keep powering growth for companies? >> it's interesting. i think from a broader level, the u.s. and europe have hung in there. we are seeing some pockets of weakness, i'd say from some of the supply chain names in areas -- in certain areas of the u.s. and europe, areas like autos potentially. but that being said, listen, i think it hangs in there. i do think the order trajectory in china is starting to see some notable improvement in the supply chain. so even if we were to see some softness come out of the u.s. and europe, i think that's more than offset in potential better
than expected results coming out of china. maria: we haven't seen a lot of growth out of europe. it's really hard to generate any growth there and we heard mario draghi say more stimulus is on the way. what will that stimulus look like? i told you what rick reeder said from blackrock, he was on the show a couple weeks ago. he said there's no wiggle room whatsoever in terms of rate, they're already negative. so what are they going to do. christine laguard coming in, she's going to buy european equities. that's why rick reeder is buying european equities. what do you think about that? >> as far as europe is concerned too, to your point, there's been essentially no growth coming out of there and we think that just continues in the foreseeable future. >> we were talking yesterday before the apple report about the huawei report that came out that revenue was up 23% in the first half, they're taking market share over there in china and you said to me, you see this as a positive for apple.
can you explain why? >> when we think about what's going on in china for apple, they made moves on their end. we think it's really helped them, whether it be trade-in programs, financing options for the consumer, bu i think as you look at huawei's results and apple's results, it tells you the consumer is coming back in china. that's helping apple's results. i think that's helping a lot of the consumer-oriented names as well. maria: we saw the consumer strong in the gdp last week. it was the consumer that was driving the gdp last week, not the business sector. dagen: in china, do we need to watch out for disinformation campaigns out of the chinese government about apple, huawei -- maria: i think you're right about that. dagen: that's not something you would necessarily see on the surface but it bubbles up from wherever in china, but also with huawei touting itself as the patriotic option in the country. so what should we watch out for
in terms of hazards? >> when we think about the two biggest risks for apple in general, one is the china market. the other is the regulatory issues because of that services business growing. but when we think about china, clearly it has to do with trade and what's going on on o the tre side of things. the bigger risk in china continues to be -- if you look at samsung a couple years ago, they once owned 20% of the market, they now own less than 1% of the market in china. they've essentially been thrown out because of huawei. when we look at the risk for apple here in china, i think it potentially is them continuing to lose market share. at one point they had 15% share. they now have less than 10% of the market. to your point, dagen, apple could kind of be smeared in terms of the china market there
going forward and i think that's once again an opportunity for huawei. if you think about it here in the u.s., huawei has no share. the u.s. doesn't allow huawei to compete in this market. i think that could potentially be harmful in china at some point in time. maria: they'll use propaganda to make the point. angelo, great to have you. >> thanks for having me. maria:.maria: 2020 democrats fg off yesterday in detroit. hillary vaughn was there for round two, part one of the democratic debates. hillary, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, maria. voters got to see a tug of war between progressive policies and a more moderate approach at the debate last night. in fact, senators elizabeth warren and bernie sanders were asked if they think their ideas are too far left to beat trump in 2020 and some candidates on the stage with them last night said that they do think that progressive promises are not a winning strategy for 2020.
>> i think if we're going to force americans to make these radical changes, they're not going to go along. throw your hands up. >> i will. [ laughter ] >> i can do it. but you haven't implemented the plan. you can't just bring a plan on the world and expect it to succeed. >> every credible poll that i have seen has me beating donald trump. >> hillary clinton was winning in the polls too. in this discussion we've talked about taking private health insurance away from union members in the industrial midwest. we talked about decriminalizing the border and we talked about giving free healthcare to undocumented workers when so many americans are struggling to pay for healthcare. i quite frankly don't think that that is an agenda that we can move forward on and win. >> reporter: one of the progressive policies in the hot seat, medicare for all. john delaney has personal experience in the healthcare industry. he told sanders that his plan for medicare for all will not pay for itself because sanders
wants to eliminate private insurance. he says medicare for all rates only cover 80% of the cost. private insurance picks up the 20% remaining. so delaney told sanders last night the math doesn't add up. maria: hillary, thank you. hillary vaughn in detroit this morning. coming up, details emerging about the a accused hacker behind the capital one breach. cloud security front and center. and high cost of college, some parents go to the extreme making sure their kids' education bill gets paid. what they're doing, coming up next. ♪ a little bit dangerous. ♪ but baby, that's how i want it. ♪ a little less conversation. ♪ (vo) the hamsters, run hopelessly in their cage. content on their endless quest, to nowhere. but perhaps this year, a more exhilarating endeavor awaits.
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think we can tell that by her actions. the woman has been charged with stealing the data from 100 million people. she was a transgender woman, hopping from job to job. she was described as someone who was angry. she tweeted that she was going to check herself into a mental health facility a few weeks before she was arrested. on her twitter account, she wrote something, said i've basically strapped myself with a bomb vest, to the point where another hacker on another platform said please don't go to jail over this. i think this happens with a lot of hackers. they're operating on the fringe but they still want credit some somehow from the community for stealing something, in this case stealing social security numbers, credit card numbers and dates of birth. what this means for these companies is to what extent are they willing to go more and more to the cloud. unfortunately, for capital one, it was an early adopter five
years ago, went to the cloud. most security experts are saying that while amazon web services is at the heart of this particular issue, that it's not really at fault. for example, this young lady actually used an access point in the firewall. it wasn't really a problem technically with the cloud. she accessed it another way. but just in the way the story is developing, she had worked for amazon cloud services for a number of years. she's clearly mentally having a lot of battles. one thing that let the fbi find her home address was she had shared a vet bill, i guess her cat was sick, so it had her home address, her real name and that's one of the reasons they were able to find her and arrest her. maria: wow, incredible story. >> it just shows somebody very much on the fringe but who wanted some sort of acceptance if you like from her peer group. but we know with equifax, for example, which went through a similar hack, they paid $700 million to settle a lawsuit, i should mention a
class action lawsuit was filed yesterday in dc, someone in connecticut who has been affected has started to gather the troops. >> you know, maria, what is chilling in this case, a lot of hacks we think of foreign agents or people overseas. it's a reminder that for big companies, you've got all kinds of developedders coming in and out, -- vendors coming in and out, and a determined hacker who has an inside track, it's very, very hard to stop. it's very hard to do anything about that. and i thin i think that's got ta lot of companies looking at things closely and thinking of security protocols. maria: we were saying that yesterday when the story first broke, we were thinking maybe it's china or russia, oh, no, it's an american citizen, a woman. scary stuff. we'll keep watching that. all eyes on the federal reserve, the central bank's crucial decision coming this afternoon. fox business will have complete coverage, live at 2:00, we're expecting a quarter point cut.
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maria: welcome back. futures are higher this morning. we're at the highs of the morning. dow futures up 71 points, the s&p futures up 5 and three quarters, nasdaq up by 30 points right now. investors are waiting on the fed this afternoon. the federal reserve expected to cut rates by a quarter point. we'll know at 2uz 15:00 p.m. -- 2:15 p.m. eastern. joining us now is head of investment solutions group at bank of america, keith banks. you're obviously expecting a cut as well, right. >> we are. maria: what kind of impact is that going to have do you think, market reaction and impact on
the economy. >> i think if we get 25 basis points that i think the world believes is going to be the outcome, that shouldn't do a whole lot. i think the key is going to be what is the verbiage coming out, do they talk about the -- reinforce the possibility of further cuts, number one. do they talk about maybe ending quantitative tightening a bit early, this balance sheet runoff, that would be i think new news. what th the market wants to heas they'll continue to look at the data and the data will dictate further action and most people believe further action that's required will in fact be additional cuts. maria: i wonder if we're going to hear the winddown slowdown, $3.8 trillion now on the federal reserve balance sheet, they're supposed to get that down to close to 3 or below $3 trillion. is that something you're hearing as well, maybe they come out with commentary on the balance sheet that maybe the they stop the winding down. >> i think it's one of the areas of speculation.
maria: that's in effect the tightening. >> can i ask, what problem do you think they're trying to solve? i'm asking because even though the market priced it in, mortgage rates are coming down on their own, the economy is doing pretty well, they didn't move last december when the market went haywire for a few weeks. is it the right thing to cut rates? should they keep cutting? what is the problem -- do you think there's a problem for them to solve? >> i do think they should cut rates, number one. i do not p think they're solving for the markets. i don't think care a whole lot about what the equity markets do unless it begins to back up on consumer and business sentiment. i think the real key is we've got -- we're now in the 11th year of the economic expansion and we've got inflation around 1.5%. when we go into the next downturn and there will be a next downturn, we don't think soon, that's not a lot of cushion. 150 basis points of inflation and zero and deflation is a
pretty tight fan there. maria: especially while the rest of the world is cutting and stimulating. >> especially while the rest of the world is cutting and slowing. i think they're trying to get the economy to run hotter, see if we can get a reflationary environment and ensure we have as healthy an environment as possible when we enter the next downturn which we don't think will b be for at least a couple years. >> to get inflation going, 2 a 5 basis points, do you think -- 25 basis points, do you think that's going to do it or are you saying there will be multiple cuts into this year and into 2020. >> 25 basis points in and of itself isn't going to suddenly change everything. maria: the market expects three cuts. >> the market expects three cuts. our hope is that as you begin to see in the second half a pickup in foreign activity, we've seen a lot of stimulus coming out of china, we think will begin to
show itself. you've got at last count at least 15 central banks are in easing mode. we'll probably see something in september out of europe, maybe a quantitative easing too out of europe. maria: what are they going to do? they're at negative rates, right? >> lower rates, going from negative 41 basis points on the 1 # o10 year in germany to negae 51 is not going to do a whole lot. it's going to be more creative in terms of buying back bonds. maria: or buying stocks. >> or buying stocks. you mentioned rick said that last week. they've got to get more creative, not just about lowering rates. dagen: what about structural reform in europe. maria: what about labor reform. >> i'm not sure we can count on that, but that would be -- >> what about brexit? we're seeing the pound take a beating this week. is that going to matter at all here in the fall? >> well, i think brexit is one of a number of things that matter and it's part of -- i think when the -- even the fed
thinks about the u.s. and our rates, they're looking at a global picture because our u.s. companies are so global, especially in the s&p a 500, foreign activity matters. i think over almost 32% of s&p 500 earnings now come from foreign profits. maria: it's a big number. >> the fed is looking at a big mosaic of information that i think is driving them toward the action we hope they're going to take today which would be the beginning of multiple steps. maria: eurozone gdp out, second quarter was in line. taiwan was better in the second quarter. how would you characterize the global economy right now. >> it's interesting. we're on a dual track. our research team wrote a report called the great divide. you've got the u.s., powered by the consumer, small business, housing, things of that nature, all of which are strong or in good shape, at least small business and consumer, and the rest of the world is more dependent on trade and manufacturing which is the sweet
spot of weakness. and so what's been ironic is that the tightening we did in the u.s. in 2018 and the trade war we've been undertaking with china has had a bigger impact and a much more negative impact on the rest of the world. we're kind of pulling away from the rest of the world as far as growth which is one of the reasons why we like the u.s. market better than we like the international developed markets because we just think that's going to continue. we're going to grow we believe at or above trend in the u.s. and the rest of the world is going to struggle to grow at trend, more likely for a while below trend. maria: i love what you said earlier, that you think this is going to be another couple years of this economic expansion. here we are in year 11. that's a good backdrop for stock. >> it's interesting. the excesses aren't building. inflation is low, going lower, rates are going lower, consumer sentiment is strong, old age doesn't tip over the economy. old age tips us over, doesn't tip markets over. people have to remember that. maria: keith, good to see you.
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string of earnings for the second quarter. markets are higher, we're at the highs of the morning right here, markets getting a push from apple with dow jones futures up 74 points, s&p up 6, and the nasdaq futures higher by 30 points. general electric out with a double beat and it is raising its profit outlook as you see, ge shares were up 4.5%. human thaa seeing a jump in rev. yesterday, stocks slipped after president trump said that china trade talks are basically slow and saying that china does not come through on its agreements. he warned china not to wait for the 2020 election to do a deal. he says it will be tougher then. global markets are lower. that was yesterday's trade. the dow was down 23, the s&p down 7. the nasdaq was lower by 19 points. global markets this morning are mixed. take a look at european indices where the consumer is strong in germany apparently, retail sales posted the biggest monthly jump in germany since december 2006 and the dax is up 27 points.
the fq100 is down 50 points. the cac is up 5. in asia overnight, declines across the board. there is more signs of slowdown in china. factory activity contracting for the third month in a row in china. the showdown in motor city, democrats going head to head on the economy, healthcare and immigration. we have a look at the top moments from last night's debate and anticipating tonight. the high cost of higher education, parents are taking extreme measures to get a break on tuition. giving up guardianship of their kids. plus this. valuable life lesson from monopoly. the hilarious video that captures a young boy feeling the pain of taxes. we feel your pain. all those stories coming up this wednesday morning. our top story this half hour, democratic debate, 102020 candidates went face to faith last night. >> i think if we force americans to make radical changes, they're not going to go along.
throw your hands up. >> i will. >> you haven't -- [ laughter ] >> i can do it. but you haven't implemented the plan. >> you can't just spring a plan on the world and expect it to succeed. >> i think democrats win when we run on real solutions, not impossible promise, when we run on things that are workable, not fairytale economics. >> i don't understand why anybody goes to all the trouble of running for president of the united states just to talk about what we really can't do and shouldn't fight for. [ cheering and applause ] maria: joining us right now is the co-host of the five, juan williams. great to see you. how was the debate from your standpoint? >> i think wait as success for the democrats overall. i thought it was a l real debate about real issues and you were able to see the moderate wing of the party versus the more liberal progressive wing of the party and what happened there i think was not only illuminating if you were watching but you saw for example the debate about medicare for all play out in a way i think people could
understand, appreciate and decide who they wanted to back. the bigger point is i think that elizabeth warren and bernie sanders who going into this were positive as potentially fighting each other for the left lane of the party actually were unified and unified against the more conservative democrats who were on the stage. maria: like tim ryan or delaney. >> i thought tim ryan did pretty well. delaney, i think he disappeared. he had that moment with the hands in the air business that i don't think worked for him. but that's the only memorable moment he had last night. maria: you don't think it worked for hickenlooper. >> i don't think it worked for hickenlooper at all. >> juan, how worried do you think democrats are getting about electability? it was striking. in the first set of debates it was a march to the left. everybody topping each other. here you had very clear lines with moderates really kind of arguing we're not going to beat the president with these policies and warren and sanders kind of allied and going further
and farther. how much concern does that reflect in the democratic party about how the race is going and about the chances of beating the president? >> i think there's a pretty strong sense that you can beat the president but the argument is do you do this with a vision, do you have to say here's what i see beyond president trump? or do you simply say, as you suggest with your question, that i can beat president trump a and this is where tonight we're going to see a little bit of this with joe biden, the former vice president. is sig.is biden saying we'll tas back to the point before trump, where you didn't have racial divviedivide in the country. is that enough or is it to say i think we can do better. we can do better in terms of healthcare where so many people don't have coverage or being bankrupted. we can help our kids who are
burdened by high school tuition debt. >> i have a question. cardi b has come out at as a wild card. she is vocal about getting to know your democratic primary candidate. and she had a sit-down with bernie sanders. how do you think her getting involved is going to play out for the candidates? >> i think you should answer the question. you're the young person on this panel. [ laughter ] >> for people like me, i used to cover campaigns for a living. and you go out and you have a 24 hour news cycle. and then you turn in the morning shows or the morning paper, wall street journal. now cardi b does something with bernie sanders, gets 2.5 million people pick it up. you think wait a minute, who are these people, do they vote and do they give money? i don't know the answer. my experience as a political journalist, i'm like i understand we're playing a different game. donald trump got that before i did. he plays the twitter game too.
this is unbelievable. she has not even endorsed bernie sanders. dagen: and she wouldn't. i'll tell you why. >> go right ahead. dagen: in the past, it must have been in the last years she did a video online on social media that says i don't know why my friends in the music industry have to pay so much in taxes. we have short-lived careers in music and we have all these people, all these family members that we need to support and we're handing over more than half our money to the government in taxes. again, she could come at these candidates the way they might not be expecting. she has a very real world look at taxation in this country. maria: i had forgotten that. you're right. that was a good moment. dagen: she's very, very smart and very savvy and she came at it from that. but i want to ask you, though, ultimately bernie sanders and elizabeth warren have to justify taking private health insurance away from 180 million people and
they have to convince people that they government and barr bureaucrats somehow are going to deliver better health coverage than private companies. i think that is a long, long way to go on that. >> i think they did very well on just that point last night when they pointed out that -- person see saiberniesaid this explicit. you'll pay less in deductibles and less in coverage. maria: i asked about raising taxes in the middle class. >> the average american middles class family will benefit more from medicare for all than the current tax structure. the private insurers that are there now are the ones that as bernie said is ripping off people, making huge profits while large numbers go uncovered or inadequately covered. dagen: they need to explain how they're going to deliver this when medicare as we know it is
going broke. the hospital trust fund goes broke in 2026. people's benefits will get cut to 89-cents on the dollar. he's not in favor of fixing that. he wants to rip the entire thing up. ultimately it's going to wind up with price controls and rationing. if you have anything else wrong with you other than an ear infection and need and antibiotic you will have to wait months. >> that's scare language. that's fear mongering. what bernie said in response to your point is you need structural change. if you believe in a vision beyond the status quo, will that sell to voters or do you simply have to say this donald trump guy is off the rail. dagen: when government that was charge of people's healthcare, you had individuals in this country who were mentally disabled being sterilized by states across the country. >> how is that relevant to this? >> when the government takes over healthcare, that's what
happens. 1979 is when it ended. maria: government put in a major, big federal program, doing away with 180 million people's healthcare plans -- >> let me get this straight. i'm talking to small government conservatives, the two of you and i guess you back donald trump's budget which is that big government -- maria: no, that has nothing to do with this conversation. >> i'm just saying -- maria: you need to watch this program. i talk about federal programs every day and how they're bad. look at the post office. >> what happened here, mitch mcconnell, republicans, they backed this budget, didn't they. big spending, big deficits. maria: the dems want the discretionary spending. they won't allow the republicans to protect the military. >> what did donald trump do on taxes, he raised taxes that benefited the rich in this country. maria: every income level went down in terms of taxes, you know this and they doubled the standard deduction. every income went down. >> 25% of the benefit of that tax cut when to the 1% and you're saying you can't afford
to help out people who need help. maria: last year we got -- this year we got growth in the first and second quarter. the tax cut legislation has moved the needle on economic growth. you have to admit that. >> we are talking about healthcare. we're talking about education. we're talking about a vision for america and you guys say we can't afford it. we can give tax cuts to the rich. maria: should we go back to the under 2 2% under barack obama fr eight years. >> how about consistent growth. maria: sounds like we got it. >> an afluent society can help people. dagen: wages are growing faster than we expected. if you were a numbers nerd like me you would have been reading the analysis. >> you know what you should be saying, thank you, obama, thank you. maria: oh, come on, juan. >> that's a fact. maria: it's not a fact at all. nothing happened until donald trump got in there and started
moving things around in terms of economic poll civil you know that. tax cuts opened up the spigots on oil production. >> it's doing so great, the fed doesn't have to raise anything today, doesn't have to help us. no, no, no, things are just going great. maria: juan, thank you. we'll be right back. kevin, meet your father. kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin trusted advice for life. kevin, how's your mom? life well planned. see what a raymond james financial advisor can do for you.
monopoly teaches him a really hard lesson about life and money. >> where's all your money gone? >> taxes. it's the worst part of the game. >> is what? >> taxes. cheryl: we feel your pain, honey. the now viral post first went up on reddit. many on social media clea cleary relating, expressing sympathy for his big losses. this is actually the way you play monopoly if you pay it the right way. maria: i never paid taxes. cheryl: well, you're cheating. maria: come on. cheryl: if you played the game, the real way, there's an income tax hit on the board and you either pay the bank or you fork over 10%. maria: you have to land on it. cheryl: you have to land on it. maria: that i know. cheryl: he got hit by the taxes, wasn't very happy about it. maria: i love it.
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joining us now, columnist peter marici. thank you for being here. >> nice to be with you. maria: this is pretty extreme. >> absolutely. but it's not novel. going back to the '60s when i was a kid in school, there were people who would try to become financially independent of their parents or at least claim under independence to max their financial aid. this is a different wrinkle, you sign over custody to a poorer relative. i think we need to say that this is wrong but also to look at it in the context of the recent admissions scandal and ask why are parents going to such extremes and i think the answer is the way colleges and universities treat them. frankly, very cynically. they do a lot of differential pricing. they do a lot of price gouging. they have bloated bureaucracies. they're terribly high cost operations. i think the healthcare mess has a purpose, it's to keep a spotlight off of people like me. maria: you make a good point in
terms of what colleges are doing to encourage this. matt, talk about the story in the journal in terms of what's being done out there. >> so it was a story that came out of illinois where we noticed there were a spike in guardianship requests and tract i'd dowtracked it down to colle. it's got the university of illinois very concerned. this is a new tactic, in the suburbs of chicago. a lot of these families, their income is good, would put them fairly high but the cost of college is so high, they've got three or four kids. some of them are deploying this tactic. there was a college counselor in illinois, advising people this is a smart strategy to use. the idea's gotten out there. i think what peter said is interesting, because navigating college for your kid is one of the most complicated, gut-wrenching, challenging things for any family, wealthy
or not. it's true that wealthy people are learning to game the system pretty aggressively for their kids in a way that seems unfair to others, because the programs are there to help kids who can't afford college. maria: peter teal joined tucker carlson last night with a different take on elite institutions and their tax exempt status. >> if elite colleges were educating people, if harvard or stanford were educating people, they should be troubling or p tripling the enrollment. what sort of business is doing something great for its customers and doesn't increase the number of its customers. that's a really weird business. the closest analogy to business i can come up with is that it's something like the studio 54 nightclub. you have an incredibly long line outside, only a few people get in and the value comes from being exclusionary. they're not inclusive. that's where the value comes from. >> and highly self satisfied
bouncer. >> the stanford, yale or hard vardharvard, the studio a 54 nit nightclub you're running, it's good for the prestige of the students but it doesn't deserve a tax ex. mariaexemption.maria: you're ms there and a lot of people are getting hurt. >> the reality is, you talk about university enrollment, most universities don't was to have huge undergraduate enrollments. the state university has to have a large undergraduate enrollment. that's our mandate. a place like harvard for cornell or columbia or what have you, the ivies, northwestern and so forth, they have to -- th they e themselves as research institutions, with largee large endowments that can devote themselves to phd students and mbas, things of that nature. many of those are not particularly profitable but
endowments provide for it. maria: they want to be ex clogs fairly. >> it's -- exclusionary. >> it's not only that. it's what they want to do with their faculty. maria: peter, good to see you. thanks so much. we've got the adp number coming out and then u.s.-china trade talks. back in a minute. ♪ all right brad, once again i have revolutionized the songwriting process. oh, here we go. i know i can't play an instrument, but this... this is my forte. obviously, for auto insurance, we've got the wheel route. obviously. retirement, we're going with a long-term play. makes sense. pet insurance, wait, let me guess... flea flicker. yes! how'd you know? studying my playbook? yeah, actually. lick fast like a cookie dough ninja. apply that same speed to the ford hurry up and save sales event. for the first time ever get 20% estimated savings on select ford models,
maria: welcome back. good wednesday morning. thanks so much for joining us. i'm maria bartiromo. wednesday, july 31 top stories right now 8 a.m. on ease coast democrats head-to-head on economy health care immigration we've got a look at top moments from last night's debate anticipating another big one tonight, one countdown mode this morning for federal reserve decision on interest rates the central bank expected to cut rates for the first time this year -- the year 2008 great recession a closer look at markets health of the economy apple strong third quarter surging take a look 4 1/3 percent to
add 60 points to the dow jones industrial average, even as company reported iphone sales declined. >> tim cook said decline is good news we are telling you why. >> china trade negotiations basically ended in shanghai composite u.s. representatives announcing more tariff exceptions for goods imported from china, we are expecting more waivers on huawei according to wilbur ross. >> market higher futures a lift from apple await fed decision today dow futures up 67 s&p futures up 6 nasdaq futures higher 30 points yesterday stocks lower after tough comments on china trade taukz dow industrials down 23 s&p down 7 nasdaq lower by 19 points, global markets mixed european nooksz ft 100, down two-thirds of 1% cac quarante down nine dax higher 36, the consumer in germany this morning retail sales posting biggest monthly jump sings
december 2006. naisht markets lower as folks u.s.-china trade deal happening any time soon diminished hong kong down one and a third persons shanghai composite down two-thirds of a percent signs of a slowdown in china reports out activity contracting for third month in a row in china. >> stories coming up wednesday morning joining me to break it down fox business network dagen mcdowell, "the wall street journal" editor in chief matt murray cfr investment strategist lindsey bell great show so far. >> great to be here. dagen: i want to add one thing having trouble with talk over there. >> yeah? >>. dagen: buyer economic analyze came out with update it revisioned to personal income data yesterday "the wall street journal" he had tor aisle page writes about it today the revisions show employee compensation up 4 1/2% in 2017, 5% in 2018. running at 3.4% for six months of this year june wages salary
grew annual rate of 5 1/2%. maria: bingo! dagen: after adjusting for inflation north of 4% great for growth and benefits 99%. >> you sa-- he said. >> 830% households tax cut under president trump's plan we have had our pants on fire over budget bill so we can maybe turn on tv. >> a lot coming up dlaug top story this hour is china, the trade in focus, we learned this morning that, u.s. chinese trade negotiations will meet again in united states for the next round of trade talks in september. talks in shanghai wrapped up no sign of a deal no major breakthroughs they were talking about china buying more agricultural products u.s. trade representative robert lighthizer on anies moreds exclusions, joining us
rights now, chinese strategy sr., fellow director mike pillsbury, jennifer. >> thanks for joining us. >> thanks for being here let me get your take on what went down in shanghai. >> the chinese side i try to follow media talk to delegations, visit them in beijing, unfortunately they have lost their sense of panic that they had a year and a half ago, this whole thing might really hurt them, they see themselves maria three times faster growing three times faster than we are a small slowdown doesn't affect that number two see weakness don't understand why president has not put -- strzok lisa page people in jaim in china instigate a campaign against president xi jinping you are in jail quickly so they see him as weak president you add into that all praise for
mnuchin demonetization of bob lighthizer, president trump himself being too tough, so i am kind of turning pessimistic the president is right quite right just looking for the next president, they hope will be a democrat. >> two year nonsense everybody's head on fire includings between d-- collusion give a fire pour. >> they don't understand a lot of chinese, involved in talks, have masters degrees phd's from american universities even ones peter thiel calls exconclusory watch politics your show sense of a weak president they thought he was going to go to a full one hundred percent tariffs on all chinese exports to america he didn't do that even chuck schumer, back in may i think
it was no march chuck schumer had a tweet saying mr. president you need to put all the tariffs on all of china's exports, he looks weak from point of view of schumer's tweets not good. >> propaganda about china's economy jennifer we saw huawei saying gained market share great first half of the year should we buy into this is there an investment play in any of this. >> -- working in china not because of overall trade talks but bottom up perspective there is a lot of intoing opportunities in china gdp per capita risen 28 times last 30 years so that is a lot of -- the fastest creation of consumer wealth basically human history, so that hasn't -- a lot of opportunities in consumer space we like investing in consumers, that play consumers spending more money on goods, services, and experiences from bottom up perspective still finding
chaep stocks that we can put money to work in he also like, aligning with entrepreneurs not state owned companies we know entrepreneurs typically more about efficient about about will profitable in terms of running business. >> what about the fed rate cut how important is that to investment thesis in china markets in general because it helps currency the chinese government doesn't have to continue to minute anipulate it. >> rate cuts good for markets he overly globally case for u.s. effect on china as well i think our economy has been very strong, though, i mean unlike other countries, that are easing like european central bank, bank of japan our economy is already in a much stronger state, and so a member we don't need those cuts as much but they would certainly help markets. maria: michael. >> good to see you, i want to
go back to something you said a minute ago waiting for democratic president possibly in china, the democrats have not exactly been too krim of president trump on some china behave in fact some raising their issues as you said with schumer did chinese assume that should we assume that whatever happens in 2020 we're in a different world now of tariffs our relationship with china that we are moving toward some kind of moderate decoupling is that how chinese see it how we should see it. >> i think a reduction in the sense of panic in beijing you saw year and a half two years ago yes some deexpectincouplind of it -- having moving to vietnam companies in india not mass panic chinese were afraid of of it is very -- small percentages decoupling so if you are a chinese analyst
talking to president xi jinping, about how long can we go on how long can we take this trouble from america, you would be pretty optimistic economy growing three times faster than americans that is about 60, or 70% the size of american gdp. chinese are pet optimistic at this point so i don't see them making this same concessions they apparently made by may 1 legally binding agreements, they seem to have backed off legally binding part now want agained what they call normative suggestions also a story to tell making reforms themselves, foreigner investment intellectual property courts being expanded this seems to be their strategy president trump is not as show you should we phrase this steve mnuchin they see as better partner for
china they see him more in more in charge of talks don't see steve -- bob lighthizer being in charge any more they see mnuchin. >> that is who they want in charge i guess, quick what was your assessment of what went down in shanghai the talks end now looking towards september for the next round in the u.s. >> yes supposed to be two days only were one day really, the choice of shanghai makes it much further less to fly there is a strange analogy they seem to have in line that nixon kissinger made huge concessions in shanghai, in 1972, so this is the place to get american concessions, shanghai for americans to surrender we guy away taiwan in talks said taiwan no longer a country that is still the case today we don't recognize taiwan as country at all they were thinking this magic would -- >> a hold -- >> the tanks are going but f-16's not approved unless
president changes his mind. maria: we leave it there a lot to come come back on. >> jvr please come back soon we appreciate you both joining us, coming up july adp report out moments from now economists expecting increase jobs 150,000 private sector the number right after this we will see if markets move on that number. stay with us. to mars. $4.95. delivery drones or the latest phones. $4.95. no matter what you trade, at fidelity it's just $4.95 per online u.s. equity trade. no matter what you trade, at fidelity dto experiencer gthe luxury you desire on a full line of utility vehicles. at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. lease the 2019 rx 350 for $389 a month, for 36 months, and we'll make your first month's payment. experience amazing.
including collusion waiting on adp report for july due out moments from now economists expecting increase jobs 150,000 private sector, this, of course, ahead of the labor department report, at the end of the, we are looking at jobs right now, at what 51ier low on unemployment 5-year low what would you think 50,000 the estimate adp you think a market mover. >> that is the estimate i think a good number obviously, we would with like to see it higher, but i think that there is a feeling that we have not hit the bottom, like about despite you know a very low --
as you say we might have more to go. >> intoing keith banks said another couple years economic expansion. >> nine months wage growth above 3% pretty good getting another month of that most likely, in july. and so that is what i am looking are forward to on friday the jobs' report, pce, core pc out yesterday still .6. >> 156 northbound stor to intup you want out asap 156,000 jobs add to economy in july according to adp report released we are looking for any impact pretty much much stable to little better after 156,000 jobs added to the economy we will see if this is going to be in step with friday labor department. >> labor department expectations for the big jobs' report on friday is private payrolls to grow by 160,000 so this is right in line with
that, the overall number nonfarm jobs up just 165,000 after that jooin number, could be revised. >> -- right to 224,000 that is o overall jobs number. >> so adp june up 10,000, and interesting to look at where the jobs were, it was services obviously, service economy, of course, we are looking at where other jobs are, in retail given the consumer strength, the new york stock exchange with market reaction adp report, it is better than expected jackie. >> good morning that is right better than expected trades looking to check this off list, of course, for them all about what happens with the fed this afternoon, so all eyes will be on that, you can see futures higher this morning that is on great earnings everybodying watching apple yesterday 8 cent beat on eps, revenues higher than expected the guidance better than expected seems like, it
was a hit on all aspects of this the iphone sales slightly lower, but there is saturation in terms of hand sets services revenue light too i thought that would concern street not at this point, tim cook also saying in that services bucket the apple credit card is going to be out in august, i want to focus on ge as well good numbers across the board, 5 cent beat revenues higher than expectations, and industrial free-cash flow that is the metrics trader look at seems stabilizing larry ceo said stabilization from improvement in struggling power business positive ge raising guidance full year eps 5 a to 65 cents a lot to watch exciting. >> stock off the highs of the morning, still up 3%, on ge. >> thank you jackie. >> 2020 democrats head-to-head in detroit so i understandingoff a number of issues including immigration hillary vaughn there last
night joins us live right now good morning to you. >> good morning, maria well a lot of democrats in congress put as many roadblocks down as they can, between the president, and his mission to put a wall on the border but on debate stage, some democrats struck a different tune bernie sanders and elizabeth warren admitted one crisis at border two want to secure it but where they differ is this, they have they want to decriminalize any one crossing border illegally. >> senator sander you wants to provide undocumented immigrants tree health care free college why won't this drive more people to come to the u.s. illegally. >> strong border protection i think this is part of the discussion that shows how often debates are detached from people's lives. >> we need to fix the price of at the border crises at border a big part we do not play into
donald trump's have and. >> we can do that without decriminalizeing providing health care for everyone not me saying that that is the obama's homeland security secretary saying further problems at border not making it better. >> is it going to incentivize noumentsdz immigrants to come into this country illegally. >> yes, right now, if you want to come into the country, you should at least ring the doorbell. >> tonight another 10 candidates hit stage for round two to be another showdown between if former vice president joe biden and senator kamala harris after their match-up in miami. maria: one to watch tonight thank you. >> holding back on intree. house speaker nancy pelosi garnering more support not to impeach the president the democrats head-to-head on economy health care immigration top moments from last night's debate after this short break, back in a
. maria: welcome back, democrats dealt legal blow over russia judge dismissing dnc lawsuit against trump campaign wikileaks the judge ruling they did not participate in wrongdoing obtaining the materials in the first place, joining me right now former acting u.s. attorney general matt whitaker sir good to have you on the program this morning thanks so much for joining me. >> pleasure to be with you -- >> incredible that russia hoax stories weep coming up even though we've heard umpteen times no collusion. >> mueller investigation is over no collusion, no
obstruction in conclusions need to put this investigation behind us we need to get fund m origins how this happened to make sure this never happens to another president, i mean i was in the room, with president trump while he had this investigation going on, he was able to put it to the side, and focus on the important work and work on the economy, and immigration all the issues that need to be resolved so america can move forward even stronger than it is. maria: pretty incredible able to continue doing what he was doing in even face of hysteria two and a half years driven by media and left about collusion you are not going to learn anything from robert mueller he wouldn't answer questions in that testimony last week. >> i thought that testimony was extraordinary like a lot of americans, i watched it,
with great interest to see what he was going to say. ultimately he said nothing, i mean the -- you know i think the analogy was book was better than movie an important time in american heft over congress needs to do work of american people we need to end immigration loopholes only congress can figures better funding to ditch hs to men and women doing hard work on southern border with an execute important duties really, -- make sure we can give tools they can use to grow economy continue boom. >> you make good points the impeachment theory continues with dems chuck schumer says that he sports house speaker nancy pelosi decision to wait on formal inquiry not stopping nadler after third ranking member senate democratic leadership patty murray called
for impeachment they are continuing narrative despite the fact that the economy is going well, the president work has been going well, and there has been now, evidence that something fishy was going on in 2016. >> everywhere i go whether my home state iowaor whether i am in floridaor georgia or pennsylvania the folks i am talking to they are talking about impeachment are not talking impeachment nats need to get out of major cities in symphony of impeachment they appear to be hearing from their constituents see what real america flyover country place in between the coast about what those folks want those folks are worried about making sure that the wages are increasing, that the economy continues to be strong, and that their families have you know good schools for kids to go to -- >> john solomon at the hill is reporting that christopher ray continues to workforce up comey's russia shenanigans we're not getting missiadmissio
into the russia meddling story we are waiting on john durham william barr when do you expect what is timing when do you expect we will hear information in terms of what they uncovered. >> so you know inspector general horowitz always does thorough job i was there, waiting for his report in clinton e-mail situation, and all of the tangential issues it took longer than we had hoped women hearing september for horowitz, i think john durham is top-notch u.s. attorney i expect early answer going to bes extraordinary what they have to hear i read solomon's article as well i hope chris ray understands how important it that is we have transparency and accountability on you know what jim comey fbi was doing he and andy mccabe were doing that started this whole investigation. >> we know there was illegal
leaking, and illegal lying to congress, leaking confidential data do you think there is going to be prosecutions will we see accountability here? >> i do preponderance you have not some issues especially leak cases you can get to universe of those that had access to the information but sometimes very difficult to get to the fundamental as exact individual at the same time i think that bill barr is going to look very carefully, at some policies at doleak investigations can be more streamlined easily brought to conclusion you don't have to find needle in a hay shaq. >>,the rio grande area of the southern border said i am told the sector of southern border cracked apprehensions house democrats left town ignored calls to stay in town do what
we said end border crisis now here is what homeland secretary kev secretary. >> told me. >> we do remain in the midst of a significant humanitarian border security crises that is stepped up address security on southern borrowered between chop nerz guatemala transportation routs using. >> things better given coordination with mexico deal with guatemala yet we continue to see the democrats, sort of pooh-pooh this when are they going to admit that this is a real crises they need to act in terms of loopholes? >> i think we saw some of that, last night. where at least admission that we have some real challenges, and word "crises" was used ultimately i was there working with the president working with doj to try to get all we could do to some extent it was clapping with one hand tools
we need from congress that they were not intomy heart goes out to people down own border trying to enforce laws 30 1,000 praerngs in rgv, extraordinary number very busy sector in and offis i hope that with mexico's help safe third country agreement new asylum regulations that doj is implementing we can get more security at southern border and prevent the illegal flow into our country. >> looking at map rio grande city is you know when i was there, it was incredible because the river was dry, and so it was very ease to walk across from -- no one so easy for so many to come we will see what happens come september when they come back in recess matt whitaker thanks so much.
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federal reserve decision traditional bank expected to cut rates first time since great rescission apple better-than-expected earnings dow futures up 74 points high of the morning s&p futures up 6 the nasdaq futures meyer, by 31. we had better-than-expected report from adp, 156,000 private sector jobs to economy in july ahead of friday's jobs number, ft 100 in europe down 41 points cac quarante in paris up 11 the dax higher by 36 global markets mixed this morning, the consumer did well in germany, retail sales posting biggest monthly increase since december of o 06 on dax in asia overnight markets down as hopes of u.s.-china trade deal happening soon diminished more signs off a slowdown in china, factory activity contracting third month no raw talks in a shanghai ended there will be more talks in september in u.s., top story this half an
hour democratic debate, 10, 2020 hopefulfuls faced off in groit covering major topics including trade tariffs. >> building bridges with people like china, who -- cheating on agreement stealing intellectual property work on that not with tariff system we need every country working together. >> china has been abusing the economic system for a long time. they steel intellectual property, they subsidize goods coming into this country they have displaced steele workers auto worked across the board eroded manufacturing we have transferred wealth of middle class up to top % or china to build milt we've got to fill factories in detroit, houston make cars and steel fill with workers making about electric vehicles batteries charging stations we can't ice late from the world from asia
senator warren that put out -- we would not be able to trade with united kingdom with eu, it is so extreme we will hold china accountable we will bring allies friends like european asian to bear negotiating trade deals, that favor farmers in american workers protect human rights the environment, and labor not just here in -- >> all right division on that stage last night joining me international brotherhood teamsters general president james hoffa jr., james great to see you once again thanks for joining me. >> al good to be here. >> first your wreaks to the democratic debate last not a he what did you think? >> well, i think we are not hearing enough about the issues that are important to people here in michigan. don't forget the republicans won michigan, in the last election, that is unheard of because they talked about kitchen table issues talked about what are they going to do for people here in michigan. what are they going to do about jobs what are they going
to do about trade when a are they going to do about making giving people hope here in michigan? i didn't hear enough of that last night i think people should focus more on that i think that settle a talks about what we have to do a headlined in the paper major plant closes off that is important, because hundreds of people are going to lose jobs. that is what is going on here, so people are worried about their jobs worries about health care, worried about retirement security, and they don't have that kind of issues, that should be talking about them, and not talking about other issues we are talking about. >> i think you make a good point. >> we have to hear more about issues that affect the average person and that is what donald trump did, that is how he won michigan. >> i was going to say that that is what donald trump did in 2016 facing on worker things like wages, that is why he won, when you look ahead to the general election, with policies playoffs affect ifing auto steel industry how do you
think the president of fair in rust belt states. >> i think going to be an issue the democrats have to get into this game talking about what we're talking about, about -- how do we give you a good job, tougher on trade, making sure that we don't have any plants moving to mexico we talked about that, trump talked about that but still happening today. and people here in michigan know about that they want to hear about what are we going to do what are we going to do about minimum wage what are we going to do about having health care for people that don't have health care, what are we going to do about retirement security? people that have worked hard played by rules, those are the type of kitchen table issues, that i would like to see these debates focus on i am not hearing that, i think that is what the nats should be doing if they have any interest in winning michigan next time. maria: i couldn't agree with you more, in fact, one of the problems with nafta james i wonder if you agree with this the fact that once nafta was passed enabled that encouraged
companies to go put a plant in mexico, and sell back into u.s., it became sort of the precedent the way trade is done don't worry about it you could see just do a factory in mexican sell back in u.s. one of the reasons president came up with usmca are you happy with terms of usmca now given the fact the focus is on worker to make sure the american worker is make high wages notgeting undercut by mexican workers. >> the amended nafta right now that we are talking about is much improved it stops this hemorrhaging of jobs but still not enough we have to do more, as we speak right now, their building plants -- the cars that could be built here are being built in mexico, that is a decision that the big companies are making general motors and ford that is a mistake because that takes hope away from people that are here in michigan. the good jobs are leaving michigan, and going to mexico. you are right we've got to do more of nafta we have to have
a super nafta stops all this. maria: exactly right. >> put that up keep jobs here in america. >> don't forget nancy pelosi is not bringing it to the floor if you don't get usmca ratified, you are going to have nafta that will be -- unless like the president told me a couple months ago, when i interviewed him he came on show as ied we will do pre-nafta won't do nafta so bad we will do pre-nafta a lot of debate about that impacting the economy mitch mcconnell has broken with president on this said no we have to do nafta what i am saying if you don't get usmca ratified you are stuck with nafta how do you feel about that. >> i think we've got to make sure it is right, make sure it is enforceable but we've got to pass it this year i think it is important, i think nancy pelosi going to keep working on this, with lighthizer who is trade ambassador, i think there is hope here, it is a big improvement to stop this hemorrhaging of american jobs we've got to do it now, anybody that wants to be doing it should be talking on debate tonight about what is
happening to american jobs, and about how we need to make sure we have trade agreements, that keep good jobs here in america. maria: james you got to say, that the he american worker today is betteroff than they were a couple years ago right? i mean you are he looking at wages first wage increase in a decade. where wages are moving up you are also having this conversation about the minimum wage going up people going to 15, 20 dollars without law what do you think about that how would you characterize the economy day james. >> well the economy it was a good economy for the rich, the rich love it they are having a great time, the big boys are doing great. maria: you also have mil income lower income doing well you are seeing, a number of everyoning tens of millions being listed from poverty so there has been a bit of lifting all boats james? >> i don't agree with you -- i know people have three jonz out there with three jobs making 11 dollars an hour get 22 hours you can't live on 22 hours, 11 dollars they have
three jobs to live in america we've got to make sure people have one job, and this idea that academy is greeconomy is g are 1 dollar jobs i know people 4 two and three jobs we have to make sure people have one job one good job that is the america we need. >> james hoffa, jr., joining us a divisive debate don lemon pli.s acing questions with racism. >> what do you say to those voters to priors the economy over the president's bigotry. >> varney's reaction to how cnn did when we come back honda all in with off roaders take you there new four wheeler. >> tennis channel court report for fox business jonathan novack action-packed day two of the 2019 citi open in
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maria: welcome back, 2020 the democrats taking the stage last night with cnn hosting debate the host of "varney & company" stuart varney good morning. >> i know what you are going to say i know what you are going to ask did i stay up to watch the whole thing? did you? >> i said i would, well let me put it this way, the opening of proceedings was a statement of the rules and national anthem. it was 20, 25 minutes before they got to actual debate too long for me i was asleep the answer to your question i did not. maria: you missed fireworks then. >> well, what i missed look i watched the rerun so to speak
p what particularly annoyed me something you and i spoke about yesterday don lemon acting as one of the moderators he is a pundit guy opinion guy, expressed his opinion in those questions, i don't think he should do that he said, the -- referred to the president's bigotry, he stated that as a fact. in fact it is his subrejective judgment he isn't be doing that cnn no have ever have mad this man in panel of moderators detracted from the whole idea of objective debate i object to anybody in the media immediately labeling our president as bigot or racist stating it as a fact he just should not do that apart from that seems to me having watched reruns that it was one and it warren sanders ran away with entire debate front runners means democrat party is really lulimit of urching moe
toward left joe biden surviving moderate. >> i couldn't believe some questions from don demonstraton one hand divisiveness onstage pro agrees ifrs calling the president racist. >> president trump pursuing reelection strategy based in part on racial division how do you coincidence voters you are best to take on president trump heal the racially divide it is trump's fault the other one, trump voters who prioritize economy over the president's bigotry. >> have take it as fact in subrejective opinion stated as fact has no place in
presidential debates, like we said yesterday not cnn that you and i both worked it is jeff zucker's cnn. >> you should have been on that panel last night not that you should still be at cnn, please, believe me [laughter] >> am i going to see you this afternoon. >> for the fed i am excited about that looking forward to working with you then thank you don't misstuart 10 minutes' time "varney & company" begins 9:00 a.m. eastern after "mornings with maria" lot to come right here back in a minute. let's take a look at some numbers:
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♪ maria: welcome back. final thoughts from this all-star panel. >> i think the one wild card for this economy, for corporate earnings, et cetera, is still trade. we have the next meeting not until september which was announced this morning, and we just got to keep an eye on this very closely. if it escalates we'll have a problem. right now corporations are able to manage it. maria: in particular, the internationals are managing it well. >> yes. very well. maria: matt? >> well, keep an eye on the democratic debate tonight. see if this moderates versus progressive thing continues and how strong joe biden looks compared to the last time. maria: he's the strongest right now. >> still the front-runner. maria: yeah. dagen? >> they need to come up with a way any of these people who are proposing medicare for all and getting rid of internal combustion engines in this country, how they are going to
answer president trump, if there's a nominee, because he will hammer them on that. maria: you're right. we will cover it all tomorrow. great to have everybody today. thanks for joining us. that does it for us. i will see you 2:00 for the fed. we are expecting a quarter point cut. "varney & company" starts right now. stuart, take it away. stuart: good morning, maria. good morning, everyone. apple is in transition, moving away from technical innovation, moving towards services and investors love it. revenue from fee subscriptions, the service sector of the business, now running almost $1 billion a week. that side of the business is doing very well. iphone revenue, not so shabby. coming in at almost $26 billion. here's something new. apple will co-brand a credit card with goldman sachs. the stock this morning premarket, nice gain there, up about eight bucks at $216. today's fed day. a rate cut of a quarter point, very widely expected. i think it will be the first of