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tv   Kochen mit Martina Moritz  Deutsche Welle  July 17, 2021 10:30pm-11:01pm CEST

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well, you know, we've got some hot tips for your bucket, led the magic corner check spots and some great helpful memorials to double your travels off we go now we're meeting the women who champions culture and the german government. we simply had to communicate this in all the cove debate. thought must we really have to scream at the top of our lungs. the me to call on you. of course, in this context, debates about colonialism are bound to arise. but i think it was about what we
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had to form into what you meant to be at lee, i hope and wish that visitors to the forum will leave the building with an enriched experience. there is more than unites us than what devices and the me how to come out to welcome to the german chancellor in berlin, yet the stuff. this is where the federal commissioner for culture and the media. monica cut us holds office. and of course ms. cortez years german cultural policy, it's a crew to politic for, for us is miss cut us. you've been in office for over 7 years now and your 2nd term is set to end in the fall. you once said it's the best job in the world. is that still how you feel? wonderful. yeah. and finish your mon or sooner today. yes, i still feel that way. and that's my own subject to view. but given my background,
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this is in fact, the nicest job i could imagine. and i'm grateful to anglo merkel that i could serve a 2nd time as her minister of state. so culture and media. here are the chancery where i can help shake federal cultural policy compared on an international level. i think this is quite unique. not only because i believe i am currently the longest serving minister of culture in europe. but also because in my view, germany does quite a lot for its culture compared to other countries being able to play a key role in shaping policy is a huge value to me. both on a personal level as well as on a greater political level. and i do my job with great enthusiasm and passion, and whoever's on the mac address, mike was up a guy on the line, soft as he couldn't. you can share policies as you deemed best. we've prepared to look back at your time and office lead watching.
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the monica group is, has been the federal commissioner for kosher since 2013 music literature, theater opera on cinema. her bread and butter on her passion during her turn, she is that a greater significance to germany's culture department, the budget has grown by 2 thirds, reaching over 2000000000 euros. these resources are also used to fund dodge of ela . another focus that the funding of german film production over $450000000.00 euros are spent each year to increase germany's share of the world's phil market and strength and its foothold as a filling location. this group is a member of the center, right christian democratic party faced stiff resistance from the art world. when passing the cultural property protection act, her aim is to prevent the illegal trading of antiquities and just take responsibility for other countries. cultural heritage. now german strictly
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regulates the import and export of art. in 2013 the girl at case a spectacular find of 1500 pieces of art light on the dark issue of not the looted artwork, monica brutus cloth for a more thorough research on providence. and raised awareness of the need to rest that you looted art from colonial times. humble for loop, another huge project. the expedition space is inside to reconstruct the city. tell us we're not only difficult to construct the also difficult questions such as to deal with stolen art. the museum of the 20th century is still taking shape and berlin and it will host major works of modernization. the monica group is dearest projects, is the beethoven jubilee, even though many concerts had to be cancelled due to the covert the pandemic
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then you're off the call went up and looking back at the cover pandemic, it must have been one of the greatest challenges of your term and office, what impacted you personally? the most often in these are tut 1st michelle mason. but i felt the most taken back by the genuine, visible and absolutely palpable hardship periods by artists just like the rest of us. they made personal sacrifices. every one of us did across many different groups that includes children, young adults who couldn't get on with their lives, and the many elderly who suffered loneliness. it also applies to the entire economy and it is many fun rubel sectors, solicitation boston about in clear even that wouldn't really shook me was how much creative struggle to be seen and heard. they felt they had to draw attention to their predicament, to fear that the social significance might be overlooked or not appreciated. but
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they were always saying that we have a professional association. do we need to all be hungry? we cultural policymakers, myself, included, see our selves as the strongest lobby. and i successfully manage to raise a very, very large amount of funding. i knew i couldn't in the gym and government showed great support and the hardship that office faced not being able to fulfill that in a most dr to create was already bad enough. was something that was really disheartened. me was to see how the cultural scene felt that society was largely indifferent to the damage they suffered under the covert pandemic. nicole and i found a child that nicholas was seen as important born. is that i see that, oh you're saying it wasn't due to lack of financial support that you thought to
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that but artists objective experience played a key role dusty basel to learn does inside know. yeah, it was too much. i kept having to fight, saying, please consider the creative sector, not there's a local economy, but as an industry, it's the 2nd biggest sector of the economy. the contribution the creative sector makes to germany's gross social product is only 2nd to the motive industry and exceeds the finance sector. but the main thing was for artists and their significance to be recognized by society. we placed a great burden on them. cultural establishment were the 1st to close and i pleaded for them not to be the last to reopen, but in the end, that's what happened in the end, what counted most was if we close the schools, we can't justify why a theater should be allowed to stay open that make sense from societies perspective as a whole. i guess it, those are the priorities that society is set and they should be respected as such
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as shopping in small or big stories. well, that was always possible. move please. yes, of course. in grocery stores that was to satisfy a vital basic need. and i consistently pleaded for us to open up museums if we were going to open up clothing stores. for instance, if that works out in the end. but we really have to scream at the top of our lungs . hey, we're here to the ultimate study, couldn't to court, but beyond the interest of the artist as well being the science is a whole, has been missing out as an audience. also have a social relevance beyond private interest, and it was so important to keep emphasizing that during the pandemic. i personally felt like i was in with school and i think many other people felt the same. they were missing the opportunity to exchange thoughts. and of course, confront difficult subjects on stage. for instance, the creative sector is not just about entertainment. it also plays the role of
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a critical corrective in our democracy. we've all seen the topics that have arisen in our isolated society. and i think that shows how much culture was missing is a platform for dealing with relevant topics. we constantly had to communicate this in all the cove debates. don't forget the altima or they're not just important in their own right. but they're important to all of us in each month for the service, on our phones, elevators. together a little overview to show how culture fared and the panoramic what it achieves and where it's struggle with. let's take a look at who the aka can start enjoying once it's over. mon, germany, the country of poets and thinkers. the site of the world's largest book for both 6800 museums. germany is the country with the most professional orchestras,
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$113.00 total and its clubs are world famous. however, the covered pandemic brought culture to accrue. ah, and this gave really is to a fundamental debate value just crucial inner society. federal commission or foreclosure. monica grew to respond to a 1000000000 union funding program to prop up the cultural scenes from all feels a place for support. but the 1st lockdown was followed by a 2nd to the cultural sector, grew increasingly desperate to the lack of a pension fund. that's it. protest became increasingly loud, both in the streets and online
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when the computer has injected a little 1000000000 euros into culture, artists, groups and companies received emergency a grant, special funding unabridged allowance, and finally, got over the culture scene was definitely 50 actors, made their frustration known a new tube and provocative unfinished away. the co, thanks to cove 19 to key point. if you want to be afraid, again, feel free to despair, but don't have, don't. the end of the pandemic isn't site, and there is a euphoric feeling of optimism. what damage has been done that will only be revealed later difficult trial for germany as a cultural hard the hum, the couldn't. le, you've supported artists financially. but as we said,
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money is not enough. it is nice when, when you look back on the pandemic, would you say you could have done something different? maybe better. we found a sample. i did an impressive that we took the culture scene and it's hardships into consideration so early on in the pen, demik. and we responded to what was happening if i may add, i think we did more than any other country in the world. $2100000000.00 euros per year. my culture budget practically doubled. and i secured an additional 2000000000 euros just to help those in the creative industry through the pandemic. this helps keep the infrastructure in place and to damp the financial impact on artist personal lives. we've created a wide reaching grant program with thousands of individual grounds. and was there strong demand as this there was in less than half a year, we spent $900000000.00 of the 1st 1000000000. so we then received an additional 1000000000 euros because we were stuck in the middle of the 2nd lockdown. and this
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money is slowly being used up. we used it to make it possible for artistic productions to continue despite the cov, 19 crisis and locked down. for example, we had a default fund of 50000000 euros for film productions. we also have a big grant program, and we have been helping out places such as museums, private theaters and cinemas requiring conversions due to the pandemic with centralization systems. and above all, we have helped make productions possible. again, they will be performed once the stages opened up again when we succeeded in doing this with huge sums of money, the likes of which i think have not been seen in germany or anywhere in the world. but only so this was not enough to reassure the artists. i believe it is also very important that they feel valued and i'll give them the opportunity to rediscover the autistic voice. and that is where i like many others,
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became very impatient. that to is understandable. in the middle of the pandemic, the discussion surrounding colonial noted art also came into focus by one example is the beneath bounces, which are in many different museums in germany. what you have taken a very strong position on this. what is your opinion? regarding this looted art, duncan, other muslims are the sort of whom word form is club of which if in general, i must say that the forum and i think the migration of refugees which europe experienced in the past years made the topic of colonialism and today's aftermath of our colonial history got a huge momentum. as a result, the general population is now more sensitized to the issue. this has been a blind spot in our remembrance culture for a long time. beginning of we started to come to terms with our recent history by
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looking at the 1st and 2nd world wars. the period before that when europe had colonized africa is only now coming into view. and that's good for us. of course, some very visible issues have come into focus in the humble forum with a non european art it displays has in part a colonial context. and then you have to determine what was acquired unfairly and should just be returned. and this issue is particularly visible with a beneath bronze. we have research the history that we are familiar with it. and we know that germany has purchased over 500 beneath bronzes from the art market they were acquired and fairly so we are prepared to return them. we would like to return a substantial amount of them from 2020 to onwards. 20 nice. yeah. we've also prepared a short film on the homework fall, which will now take a look at it you'll see which exhibits are on display there. the home phone will
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open to the public interest. a few days in the humble form of the heart of berlin is likely the largest construction project during monica router's time and office. it is a landmark, but also a place for debate. reconstructing the person royal palace has proven contentious from the very beginning voted to pieces in the 2nd world war. the palace was demolished in east germany replaced by the palace of the republic house for the people, the boots following the fall of the iron curtain, that too had to go too much as best and to which socialism. instead, the wheels of history are turned back and the berlin palace is reconstructed and redesigned that the place for world culture and cultural exchange under the new name, the humboldt form, the prussian cultural heritage foundations, that's no logical collections will be moved into the humboldt foreign. these
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precious objects that have accumulated over hundreds of years include lucid arts from colonial times, shouldn't day be returned. when example is the balloon thrown from room? it was not given cd to germany and is viewed as a single name. bronze is robbed by the british and 1897. and what is today? nigeria? there were so many countries, including germany. there's objects still have blood on the ledge areas no to monday, the return i was planning to open its own museum to host them. public pressure has been mounting tremendously in response. cultural commissioner, monica green, has called museum directors and kosher ministers from across germany to discuss the issue. they agreed to start returning the stolen items. it has a breakthrough, a paradigm shift. as more and more details and individual exhibits are becoming known as what appears that the been mean bronzes could just be the tip of the
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iceberg. this trigger boat is from the violent and was likely stolen by german colonial troops. me humbled for it is full of contentious items. i know our own is failed with controversy. was the decision in favor of the humble form still right in your view? absolutely. space is absolutely. i have never invested so much energy and passion in a cultural project as i have in this one. the hook forum was only half finished when i took it over when coming into office 8 years ago, the founding directorship had the former head of the british museum near mcgregor on board, who's a global museum star. he was a very knowledgeable advisor to us. we've now can hook form into what it was always meant to be a new type of center for the art. it's more than
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a museum. it works on an interdisciplinary level. we have a cinema stages. we will be able to hold conferences there in the courtyard, capable of handling large streams of visitors. we have rooms that address berlin as the city state. and one entire floor is dedicated to cultural understanding. we designed it in collaboration with a humble university. there will also be collection pieces on display from the berlin state, museums of depression, cultural heritage foundation. it's a huge, diverse selection spending over 42000 square meters. although some of the pieces are controversial. if one of my food is active for me, yes, i always wonder why people put it like that, even though nobody has actually been in sight to see the exhibit of all these claims that everything is so controversial and difficult and so tend to focus on that although no one has actually seen the exhibition yet, that 42000 square meters with an amazing selection of exhibit and some collection
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paces from outside europe. that fills me with pride. the cultural nation that germany is today had to redefine the central spots and it's republics history. given such an opportunity to slide down, many states could have resisted the temptation to place themselves and their own history in his favorable life as possible. right at the center of attention instead of only referencing ourselves and gym and history has some wonderful highlights that we could have exhibited. we decided that the non european should have the place that here they could respond to the german and mediterranean stories being told on the museum island, which is just across. i think that signifies how germany sees itself in the 21st century. we want to present ourselves as a partner to the world, the normal, the name humboldt stands secure yesterday about the world, alexander and vill him from whom both make great leaps and intellectual history.
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the name also stands for openness, tolerance, underlining one's own experience with what is possible in other parts of the world . ultimately, i hope and wish that visitors to the forum will leave the building with an enriched experience. despite our differences, there is more that unites us than what devises, of course, in this context, debates about colonialism off bound to arise cost money, but i think it's good and right that these debates will take place that. when does he daughter on the finish? good. on christmas, mean all the references are explained. is there provenance laid out their past and what part of history they're from, even when it's a problematic part of history? and this is a minority, mr in ms to there in the, in how to do it. i'm submission mostly i don't consider it my role to get to involved with i have to respect my museums, autonomy, i trust, the experts i trust,
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they know how to deal with it appropriately. and in line with today's expectations . it takes the greatest amount of transparency and openness to present the problematic circumstances of how the pieces were acquired. that can be no credibility without a broad transparent depiction, it's difficult context. and it's true. we have debated the benign bronzes all the more carefully. but everything was always known and out in the open. only now its weights differently in the list. boat is one very central exhibit. we moved it into the humboldt for him before the building was completed. otherwise, he wouldn't have been able to fit it in. there was a great public response. now it will be exhibited. they're telling us the narrative that existed back then in the region where it was built. it's also a tale of missionaries and if difficult, colonial events, but i think the whole world has of right to learn about it. i believe the key to
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being able to show something like that lies and being honest about the difficult circumstances of providence over this, i hope not. so at 1st sighting, to con them. and elisha hood, intriguing aspect and design of absence to interstate get enough. i have become too close. i would like to change the topic for a moment at the slightest mysql at us. you are the 2nd woman to hold this office life equal opportunities for women in the cultural sector and elsewhere has always been an important issue to you. have you succeeded and what you set out to achieve is ransom in some unfair, my last toned that the beginning. i was shocked to see how far behind the whole culture and create seen was when it came to equal opportunities. culture sees itself and rightly so as part of the, of a god as a socially progressive area. but when it comes to gender equality, they have quite
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a lot of catching up to do. i have set up a round table to which we have brought our findings. i was joined by female representatives of all sectors from literature to visual arts, music, dance, journalism. we realized that there is far less equality in our creative areas than we would like to see us doing and vaal. and that's why we set into women's culture office and the german cultural council, which i finance. we have set up a mentoring program to help young women who have already achieved a good amount of success in the arts to achieve their next career goals. with support from the partners in the professional seen as difficult issues surrounding sexual assault came up, particularly in light of the one scene scandal. we set up the information center themis, which is chiefly financed by the federal government. now fortunately, various sectors are also pitching in one thing i have achieved which was relatively
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easy, was to point to equal numbers of men and women on all the committees in my house. and there are several hundreds in some areas. for example, the film industry. we had to actually change legislation in other areas. we needed to do was point out that this wasn't just a way of distributing leadership roles with a female perspective on the awarding the funding. for example, female applicants more often considered for the prize last but not least, 44 percent of management positions in my house, the held by women. i think it's a woman, is that the helms and can embody and a set leadership then a lot can be achieved. but the has to be an awareness for it. right above the boost line. more stuff does, i can you imagine continuing in this room here, i have to use the cliche responsible for the vote to decide personally, i am really passionate about working in this field and i don't see any reason to
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