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if we try and young people clearly have the solutions, the future 77 percent. now every region on the w i. we knew that our decision to wave roll would entail grid. you know what kind of regime the advance, again, imposing on the areas may control public speaking and execution. india. and it's up to the people to really decide what the future is not up to us. after 20 years fighting taliban insurgents and failing to defeat them. nato forces. i'm pulling out of afghanistan. last week. correspondence reported there's more than half the countries at poland to the taliban. the my guess this week is mid july. i'm a deputy secretary general of nato,
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who joins me this week from the alliance's headquarters in belgium. how does he justify the abandonment of the ass down people at a time of maximum need the change on the welcome to conflict zone. thank you for having me. the war in afghanistan may be over for nato, but it most certainly isn't for the people of that country. what does it say about your alliance? when the mission fails, you cut and run and abandon your friends to a very dangerous future. listen, we've been in, i've gone east on for almost 20 years now. we all, they remember 911. the 1st time that article 5 was invoked. and all allies and global partners have basically stayed for 20 years and i've got this done. so i
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remember imprisoned by then i think the other day just mentioned the fact there was an attempt to put an end to our presidency and i've got nissan in 2011. so the 10th, if you want any bursary of our presence. so we are not running away, we are just closing a long chapter. we know that putting an end to our mission is also entailing risks. we are, we are lucid about these things. but the decision to put an end at a certain point of a long protracted mission was something which was taken by all allies by american friends and allies. and now we're opening a new chapter. we're not about and it goes on. we want you to help. i've done is done, mr. joanna, the fact is you're setting a very dangerous precedent for nature which is leaving your friends and allies at the time when they desperately need you. and i wonder if that's really
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a label that you want to wear around the world. we have been training over 300000. i've gone meter insecurity forces for all these years. we've invested millions of dollars or euro's so whatever currency partners have for the national budgets. we've been investing in this country massively, not only in security and defense, but i'm looking at the numbers. since our presence in oregon, nissan, the number of children enrolled in schools in education, increased by 8000000. many of those young girls, how long do you have been asked mister joe, how long do you think you're going to love the figures that i would like you to think of that more than $100.00? 6400 districts have been seized by the taliban in the last 2 months. key provincial cities, north and south, under siege. hundreds of people are dying every week and important people in
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afghanistan, professional people, women in public life are being targeted, shot at, on the streets and that cause blow not by bombs. those are the figures that the people in afghanistan have to deal with. now. now that you've left them, general scott miller, the commander stood down. he doesn't deny that they're leaving friends in need. he said, i don't like leaving friends in need. we should be concerned the loss of terrain and the repetitive bad law has to be concerning. you look at the security situation, it's not good. you're pushing these people into the arms of a very cruel and very brutal and to some people, a very primitive movement that has no regard for human rights or justice whatsoever . so we are fully aware of the situation which is not looking great. we also fully aware that there might be risks for reversal of some of the positive reforms that we have been encouraging over the years. we also aware the fact that the gun
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forces that we've been training with enormous investments. so now aside, they also have to start performing some of the some of the losses of territory that you have mentioned. also, due to the fact that there is an impact on the morale of the gun forces, including because of the departure of nato and the u. s. allies. some of those are strategical because they decided as far as we know for them to concentrate the resources that they have considerable resources that they have in order to protect the most strategically relevant places. but in the end, it's not up to us to decide you know, the future of a gun is done and we hope and we encourage interrupt john p stocks because at the moment the room for diplomacy will arrive and i hope you are very soon. well, there is enormous criticism of your withdrawal from experts from military
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personnel generals who are involved in commanding forces in nature intelligence chief saying that basically this is a sorry moment for western grand strategy. we've lost the plot here. that's no, david richard's a former british commander of nato forces in afghanistan. he said a country that we promised a huge amount to faces almost certain civil war with the likelihood that the taliban will be back to where they were in 2000. and one you think he doesn't know what he's talking about, the direct experience of afghanistan, direct experience of dealing with the taliban. so as i mentioned, then we mentioned very clear that we knew that our decision to withdraw would entail risks. it's a bit more that we also because it's a bit more than risks. reality module. we have done in this country for many, many long years. but let me also say, you know, also also something else that there is
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a certain moment. a decision that is not easy because if we would be in this logic, we'll continue to say on and on and on one more year, one more year. it's already 20 years on 9112022 is 20 years. so that's a very tough choice. that the american president, the assay nato, have to be doing. what we need now to do is to not to give up on a gun nissan. and also not even to have this kind of sometimes legitimate, but sometimes exaggerated points of concern. we believe the civil war is, is not unavoidable in afghanistan. we believe there is a chance for peace talks to resume in the hallway elsewhere. we are also seeing the regional powers also concerned. you know, you're in your club coming into your clutching at straws here. you're summit communicate last month speaks, as you said, of opening a new chapter in nature's relationship with afghanistan. you said we affirm our
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commitment to continue to stand with the country, its people and its institutions in promoting security and not holding the hard one gains of the last 20 years. do you know what kind of regime the taliban have been imposing on the areas they control? public beatings and executions. women denied basic rights education jobs. no freedom of speech, a justice system based on torture. you know what you've handed them over to the people of afghanistan. as i mentioned, we are fully aware of the risks that are ahead of us at the same time. let me also say something that the original purpose of our present 20 years ago in afghanistan is to make sure that i've got the sun is not becoming again, a safe haven terrorist in 20. is this not been not a single? there is the attack from a gun, nissan on natal soil. this is in itself, one of the primary goals of our presence there. again,
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this is something that we are fully supportive of a future of gun nissan. that they will decide together. we believe that some of the reforms that we have contributed to will also be defended, not only needed to terms, but also the if any, by the gun people themselves. so i do not believe that there is today a chance for some form of valuable rule that will be taking control over the whole country. i believe there is enough capacity in that country to, to defend this hardly gained progress in social and human human rights. but in the end, it's up to the gun people to really decide what's the future. i don't know if it was. yeah, but 280 to the side on behalf of the gun people are when we don't believe and i'm, i strongly believe. i strongly believe that there will be some form of political
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settlement among the, the various constituencies ethnic groups and also philosophies and ideologies inside afghanistan. the purpose of the inter i've gone talks, well, let me just point out some of the comments that disagree with that enormously. in particular, from before my head of britain, secret intelligence service, alex young goes to down last year. and he said he was frustrated. by the way we, we, the international community have failed. we have failed to match our ambitions with a proper political plan. that's his view and his view is also that there is a perfectly cordial relationship between the taliban and al qaeda. and he's predicting that off down this time will likely descend into civil war. you point out that i haven't been any terrorist attacks from afghanistan, the time that nato has been there. he says, neither islamic state, nor outsider. i've gone away, and now they have
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a good chance to come back. you happy about that? this is another expert. you don't think he knows what he's talking about as well. when i mention that we are ending a chapter in our relationship with our gun, he's done, i speak on behalf of nato this time. and opening a new one doesn't mean that we are leaving a gun. he's done with our military presence and not continue to support. i've got his son, including his security immunity forces, the nato trust fund for i've gone the sounds on forces, is fully replenished up to 2024, billions of dollars that we have at our disposal to continue to train. of course, not in in country. they're also allies, america, 1st and foremost, that are now looking and preparing over the horizon as we call them military and capabilities to be able to intervene in, in case of need. so i think i did that,
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i think of need. now they're not intervening now, but there's a lightning advance going on by the taliban. whereas with that, which i would lightly disagree because there's also public reports that there is we continue to give support to the organ on forces. we continue to help them run the air force which is quite performing by the way, we continue to train the special forces which are quite perform. and by the way, of course, we know that in some portions of gun nissan we, we also have the same information and even more in tell that there are some forums with the morale of the troops. some of them are taking refuge in neighboring countries in tajikistan, in other places, we are not in the situation to ignore the reality, which is a hard reality. but the me and the moment of our ending of all mission and i'm going to son would have come. he's that a perfect moment for that. no, it isn't. it is a great solution. no, it isn't. it is one of the options that we have on our hand to continue to help out
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going on. yes, it is. that's, and i'm, i'm encouraged of the fact that also other international plays not only nato, not only the us, nothing of the. okay, not germany. oh, really, what turkey, the gun east on conventional dialogue on that it's not a great tribute when the best thing that joe biden can say about your mission is that it hasn't failed yet. you think, withdrawing all the troops and leaving the country to be overrun by the taliban enhances your partnership with that kind of stuff. i'm not sure how you work that out. we need to continue to support the ongoing afghan lead piece process. you say what process is that? you know perfectly well that i haven't been any sustain talks between the government and the taliban. for months sometimes the taliban turn up to talk. sometimes they don't. why construct these fairytale scenarios that i'm absolutely nothing to do with reality? the piece process will resume and that the process is not always resuming,
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as we hoped. also because there is like always in negotiation, at least 2 parties, the gun legitimate government. and sometimes the government has not shown up to these negotiations. sometimes the tale by not playing, they were excluded that the americans did one day, the government and i've done this and was excluded completely on the deal. so this was always going to reveal, contain no assurances whatsoever about democracy or a constitution or elections or anything else that might help people. so hope as you put it, hope that the gains of the last 20 years could be somehow retained. nothing would put it differently than because i hear you. and this is things that we also concerned about. but here, there are 2 options. there's no way in which a dolly bon can take over control over the whole country because the other constituencies and other forces that will not allow that. so there is no way for the tale bond to take over by force the whole of our gun nissan. we also are aware
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the fact that heading off county, so i'm going back to the period when the affections and some form of long term, you know, in fighting inside the country is also another solution north of the tale bond, nor for the other forces. so there will be a political compromise to be met. is this the right time? we hope it is easy, only the role of the us and nato to encourage both parties to, to join again, negotiations in doha elsewhere. know, this is why we see interesting, you know, the encouragement for parties to resume talks also by russia also by china, also by other neighboring players. so i think nobody but nobody from get mentioned community is interested in having of gone is going that devastating.
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wrote that they had many as well with all about just left without just left. they may not be able to prevented mr. john. i come back to the question that he can. we just discuss nato's credibility after this. withdraw not just in central asia, but around the world, leaving friends in need, and those are the words of general scott miller leaving friends in need. severely damages your credibility at the time when you really need it. how much value do you think ukraine, for instance, places on your messages to support when it watches you give up on? i've got this down and pull out, leaving it to the taliban. i'm not here to to, to have an, an argument over this. i'm saying that 20 years is a long period of time and saying in one place and trillions of dollars and thousands of lives of allied troops and partners globally that have also sacrificed
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alongside with guns in these 20 years. then 20 years. and we can, we, if you want, we can have counterfactual thing. we could continue, we should have lots left probably earlier. if there are the right moment to do this, no, it isn't. is this a moment then we have to, to make up a decision? yes, it is, and it's up to all of us, including the, in mainly the people are running on the really side what's the future? and of course, we are interested about nato's reputation. we are, we are of strongly reliance. we know that sometimes our actions are inactions also having an impact. i'm not concerned to, to, to, to, to tell you the whole truth that all reputation is an alliance would be diminished by this. we've been sitting for 20 years. there's no other similar situation. when a global alliance around the nation from all the content, not only nato countries,
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we have come to the help of all american friends and allies. alright, my is my question. my question mr. joanna was what you thought ukraine might make of all this, considering that they're also in receipt of very nice words and promises from nato, like nato's support for ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity is unwavering . when in practical terms, that's actually meaningless, isn't it? because nathan can do nothing to prevent ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity being violated. wholesale by russia, as it has been since 2014. so nice, nice word is not that you want to be known for nice words. absolutely. just the opposite. what i'm saying we cannot compare on comparable things going on is don't ukraine. and that's a totally different ball game and story behind this to this to situation. well, let me be specific when, remember, remember that the older generations,
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speaking of the annexation illegal annexation of crimea, do we remember when the baltic states were annex by soviet union? was the same awards as you mention now, that when the u. s. and western europe, downtime in small nato. in those days they said they will never recognize the annexation of the baltic states. the soviet union is going to take time and did the decades. we needed to wait for the end of the cold war. and today, the bolting nations, i'm proud members of our alliance. i know in, in your interviews with my colleagues with us, dr. burke and my friends is a really good them are you ask the question, can we really find these countries our l i c s. do we have an obligation towards ukraine in terms of article 5? not yet. but the, when a nice will have that decision will also defense all allies the day. there are 30 allies that we have promised solemnly to defend one another. want to you,
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you. i know that sometimes worse mean not to be strong enough to him, but they mean something they meet political commitment from the leaders. and the moment we have decided our nato summit in june on june 14th. this will continue to help oregon is done. it will continue to same by the sovereignty, and there is all integrity of ukraine in georgia for that matter. that will say that will be helping our partners around the world that need those reputation. this is what we, what we are doing, just fine. you don't need not long protected or you don't need me to tell you that the ukranian government is waiting for a date for full membership. the foreign minister said that just a few days ago, we would like to have an honest answer to the question when that's what he said. what is the answer? what is them, kenny? about on let me give you, let me give you an in direct answer, but nonetheless, very direct us. i'm come from romania. i'm the 1st that the surgeon, i'm nato,
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from a new come into nato. i was foreign minister of my country. i was embarrassed in washington trying to convince the allies to invite my country to join native. he'd anybody tell us when this will happen? did anybody give us a solemn promise that by that date you will be a member of nato? you, romania, you bulgaria, you the baltic states? you are the others. know they're fighting on the border. mr. joe, and it's likely we have been russia. we have been on the, on the, on the border with russia directly or indirectly, like the multi countries for many, many decades. this is not an easy thing. what i'm saying that the booker, as decision on open doors, is that the say it was reconfigured our summit. and it's also up to us to reach consensus within the alliance. and also for we are friends in ukraine, continued up at the reform. you're not going to give them a firm answer because what russia did went to a diesel freight in time. we are working on open door policy. our
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foreign ministers will be meeting next december to to give additional support to our sprint countries. they have to keep faith in their own decision to join the west. they have to continue to invest in reforms in ukraine, not for the sake of joining nato, the european union for that matter. but for the sake of you can people. and this is why i'm adamant against the idea that russia can have a veto, or we can accept ever in europe again, spheres of influence. and when a sovereign nation is borrowed from joining the kind of military alliances or the kind of structures they want to join, someone has actually enforced that bar very effectively. but in the short time that we have left, i'd like to talk just briefly about china because the recent nato summit prioritized what you called beijing coercive policies and the increasing dangers it
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poses to the west. your bus, you had started back, said these challenges had to be answered how. how do you propose to answer these challenges? i remember being new on the job. the 1st time that we had a mention, an explicit reference to china. efficient nato document was in london in 2019, when our leaders met. it was the 1st time that in a final communicate, china was mentioned. and to put it in a very simple way, we presented china, which is the reality as an opportunity and a challenge. and we started to work on the rise of china because the rise of china is the reality that is shifting global balance of power. it's also a message for julia, that's a big country with a big economy, with lots of opportunities to do things. also, there is a challenge because china is becoming a massively, you know,
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an aggressively investing in the, in the military capabilities and that portion of globally. so yes, we are working on what he call friends of work. but there's all right, knowledge hide your alliance because there are plenty of your members who don't like this new focus on china present. a micron, for instance, was pretty clear. you said nate as an organization that concerns the north atlantic . china has little to do with the north atlantic. it's important that we don't scatter ourselves and we don't bias our relationship with china. we should avoid distracting nato, which already has many challenges. do you agree with him? the china as a distraction for nato? i agree with what our lead us all our leaders, including the fresh president, the german chancellor, the american president, the president, romania, they all agreed on the language in our final communicate team. nobody was forcing countries either way when the motion is immediately afterwards,
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it's important that we find out why and bias are relations just fine. china, that's fine. we can use that to be a regional organization by un sanders. we are your atlantic organization by the rise of china is a global thing. oh, okay. the language that also beijing has criticizing. now if i don't communicate, he's it is, is lighter than the language on china. and he language on china official language, a view on china that they see china is a systemic rival. ok. i think he's much harsher in terms of and that's again prison, macro. again, other european where we run out of time. unfortunately, thank you very much for being on conflicts and i appreciate all my time. thank you . always a pleasure. thank you. the
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the news . this is the news alive from berlin. severe storms cause catastrophe your cross parts of germany. at least 9 people have died, dozens or missing in homes has collapsed. as heavy flooding leaves, parts of the country underwater. more rain is on the way. also coming up, mob justice on the streets of south africa. the government calls for com and is your land groups defend businesses and punish looters? the army says it's sending thousands more soldiers to stem a week of lawless. aah!
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and a warm welcome to viewers around the world. i'm michael local. we start off with some breaking news. severe storms across germany have at least some of the worst flooding and decades. at least 9 people have died including 2 firefighters who drowned up to 70. people are missing after heavy overnight downpours. the regions of north ryan with failure, rhineland palatinate and solid, have been worst effected, a damn near the city of booth with tall as overflowed and is at risk of breaking several houses of collapse and dozens more. are at risk. hundreds of thousands of homes are without power. residents have been evacuated from hundreds of homes, but many of those who stayed are now trapped by the flood water. it's
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a fight against the floods. the deluge to many residents in western germany by surprise. while there was no water around $130.00, but within half an hour it was like a big stream. completely flooded up is all i'm all at once the water started flowing in, it came from over there, it flowed in here and in no time it was up to my chest. different parts of germany were hid by the bad weather in the western city of distant off an entire housing estate. with 350 apartments had to be evacuated in the town of altenor, a firefighter was swept away by the water and drowned in huge that close to the check border. a 53 year old was caught in a flash flood. rescue workers are still searching for him. the heavy rainfall was caused by warm and cooler air mixing. such extreme weather can occur in summer, but it only happens rarely does happen in the last time. we saw this happen was in
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2005 or before that in 1999 when some river flooded due to the sheer amount of rainfall that is indeed exceptional for the also good hog. in western germany was particularly hard. it was impossible to drive along some streets even for the rescuers, but hadn't one to another to this prompted us to request help from the army to get the situation here and hot and under control. and luckily it turned out very well for either of those, they would get up. people all across germany are hoping for the rain to relent soon . for more and they said, let's bring in d, w. nino hasa who's been following a story for us. you know, we understand that dozens of people are missing after several houses collapsed. what more can you tell us about that? well, it's a chaotic situation on the ground in many different areas and dozens of people are
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still missing. lots of houses are unstable and at risk of collapse. dams are at risk of collapsing more and more communities on our reporting casualties related to the flooding. at least 3 people, for example, up and found dead in the sellers. as many people are talking about the situation as a disaster, that happens only every few decades in some sites, never happen to this extent. what can you tell us about the rescue efforts? i can't imagine that the conditions are making those efforts any easier. it's an extremely risky situation. also for the rescue workers, we heard about the fireman and firefighter who died after trying to rescue a person and many people this morning trying to find shelter in the upper floors of their own houses, or even on the rooftops waiting to be rescued. and because of the floods is very difficult for the rescue workers to get access to them, they need drinking water and food. those essentials and several helicopters were hearing and being deployed to rescue people from those rooftops in some of the most effective and regions. and there are severe warnings by the authorities on people
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to refrain from disaster tourism. so not to try and take pictures because many people haven't seen pictures like this, obviously in the lifetime, but they're hindering the work of the rescue workers. i'm sure that the question many observers will be asking right now is, is there an end to the rain inside the weather report this morning says that we're still expecting rain in some areas in the effective regions, but not to the same extent. luckily is over the past couple of hours, at least not in germany. it's now moving farther west to belgium and east of france . but of course now the water and all the debris has to be cleared away. many people have lost everything. people have been asked to ration their drinking water and now so many politicians i calling for swift action to help those flood victims and of cause high ranking politicians are now in the ground and that includes and the candidate of the conservative party, the regional lead of knows where i'm salia, i'm in law said who's assessing the situation on the ground
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w. nino hasa. thank you so much now to south africa where the government says it's sending some 25000 soldiers into regions, racked by looting and violence, boosting the troop deployment tenfold. unrest has raged in parts of the country for almost a week now. and what's being called south africa's worst violence since the end of apartheid ministers are pleading for people not to take justice into their own hands. what could be confused? the scenes of bustling commerce are actually the themes of chaos. in the eastern city of durban, looting often and riots have continued at scale. police side ever arrested thousands of people, but many officers say the situation is fill out of control. the hallway of this go for this what it looks like down. yeah. if you carry on further down the road because burnt out,
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recalls in the roads due to everything. factory the burning way out of the burning people are coming by the 1000 to come and look. but in other parts of the country, police appear to be regaining control. the government has deployed some $5000.00 soldiers to support local law enforcement and is said to be considering sending more authorities that concern. however, about reports that some civilians may be armed and taking matters into their own hands. rounding up suspected looters and resorting to a form of mob justice. lawmakers say they don't want these groups to add fire to the already simmering situation. we understand the consent for community for their safety, and then they need to protect their properties. we would like to edge this communities to work with a law enforcement agencies to stop the looting and violence and to operate within
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the rule of law. protests began last week after the former president jacob zoom began serving a 15 month jail term for contempt of court with frustration or the inequality and rising unemployment. i seem to be feeling the majority of the chaos. now, with dozens less debt and the violence of grieving families will be asking themselves just how long the lawlessness will last. a now joined by journalists, garage the palais in johannesburg. roughly south africa has experience, days of unrest and looting. of course, what's the situation like today? well if a tuition today's that people are still feeling very nervous, they still a lot of chaos. we are seeing scenes that are missing off the early days of democracy or before rather when there was huge and been widespread unrest in the country and for many citizens. this is unheard of an unseen previous ariah's and
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purchase. i've been very limited with this much to find for many years. and so right now what it looks like in south africa, and i told them to like mind when she gets it, is that most of a bad kid is now home. because, you know, we've been out of pixel, we bring this disorder to the grid and the last supplies that has been disrupted because of all of the violence that is happening in the hallway. there have been concerns as food and fuel may be in short supply in some areas due to transportation disruptions, any indication of that happening? well, absolutely. so the put the t off durbin she's with on with really started, is do any central cha, supply chains in the country. and so supplies have been green stuff to, up to the can on the cock mound or hiking with the purchase of overspread too. so we actually can't, the accused around the block for fuel isn't. as i said before, the bread available,
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the british war to just because the main used battery in the country has been tested by the violence again, enclose it in the tower, which is that's what's the port area. so because of that, because it is a really key area in terms of getting a for small the country from delivering them to the country with things shorter just happen. i'm curious, what are people saying they're about the government's response to the rest? are they satisfied with what president ram opposers doing? absolutely not. there's a lot of frustration social media solvers. it's in the box of emotions and south africans. generally, i would say shocked that nothing more has been done. there is a lot of unhappiness with the fact that the says we handled with kid gloves because it's a politic started a political issue because it started off at iran form better than jacob zoom. and people aligned to him. it does seem that the necessary force wasn't to use the necessary tools of the state when not deployed. thought enough was soon enough.
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instructor is a huge criticism of all intelligence services, not just a number closer, but because the children services were hollowed out by years of corruption under full bits of jacob's do my so. and encourage him service in the country supposed to see this coming. the people planned quite open on social media. they said they were going to make the country ungovernable. and yet nothing happened to soccer. and that's journalists ever actually to lay in johannesburg. how much, thanks for ashley sound. take a look at some of the other stories making headlines around the world at this hour . german chancellor angle and medical ease in washington where she will meet with us president joe biden. the leader scene here in file footage are expected to discuss the pandemic of climate change and global security. it's likely to be one of miracles last foreign trips before she steps down. as chancellors this fall, the un says more than 20000000 children missed essential vaccinations in 2020 due
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to the pandemic. that's the highest number and more than a decade it could lead to outbreaks of measles, polio, and other preventable diseases. the u. s. has warned the situation could develop into a perfect storm. well, the olympic start next week and surfing is among a handful of sports, making a debut at the 2020 games surfer leon glasser will be representing germany and the 24 year old is hoping to capture the 1st ever gold metal. in the event a sport born in hawaii more than 100 years ago is ready for its olympic debut. the father of modern surfing and 5 time limping swimming medalist duke cannon, who dreamed it, would become an lympics port one day in tokyo. that dream will come true. and another hawaiian born sister is preparing to show the world the germans consent to hi my name is leon gladstone. i'm 24 years old. i'm
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a surfer and i'm going to tokyo glass that grew up in costa rica, assessing paradise. the pandemic gave him plenty of time to get ready for the big event like sunset. it was all over for me in 2020. there were no competitions at all. no lippy games, nothing. but it was not bad at all. i had lots of time to train, lots of time to think about myself, about my goal. and i had a lot of time with my coach. my coaches glance is happy that thing is finally recognized as an olympic sports rather than just a lifestyle. and the german team now has the support that needs to compete. internationally for surfing was like a lifestyle. i was always alone in all the competitions all over the world. but now we have a lot of support for the german olympic committee and support groups. we have
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a large team team. the surfing here 2020 will take place on the japanese east coast . where the challenge will change is each wave comes. but that suits lay on glass. just fine. you will live in the olympics, belong in the ocean, proper wave riding and surfing. this here is rapid surf which i don't do that often . only a couple of days a year. but the railway is in the ocean of the 1st and only german to represent his country in the event will be competing is one of the 20 best surface for the sports 1st ever olympic gold metal. and reminder of the top story we're following for you. severe storms across germany have unleashed some of the worst flooding in decades. at least 9 people have died and many people are missing. after heavy down . more heavy rain is expected. watching the w news line from berlin up nets is the d. w documentary seeds of profit. and don't forget,
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it is open said that fruits and vegetables used to taste much better and that they were healthier. but were they really? they couldn't meet africa till the schools in paris is a sounds of knowledge regarding old plant varieties ah, between the old agronomy publications, we find something special and nutritional composition table for fruits and vegetables. it is 60 years old. i the vision and mineral content of each and every variety. ah, indeed, over the last 60 years, many fruits and vegetables seem to have last summer, they need traditional value. so how does the,
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ah, the american biochemist donald davis lectures on the subject the i'm here to tell you about an important problem that many people are not aware of. nutritional declines in foods status works at the university of austin, texas and has analyzed the development of 43 vegetable varieties between 950-1999. i think that most of these declines are caused by increases in yield. when you go up, there's last nutrients per weight of the food, a lot of agricultural trying to as may not know about how big these effects are.
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this is kind of an embarrassing of their, they're always wanting to increase yield. if modern breeding was causing increases in flavor and increases in nutrients, i think they were talk about a lot more militia is one of the truths that has lost the loss of new trends. looking back, it is clear that this has to do with the varieties, as well as the c farmers all over the world's shoes by seeds from russia like this . the suppliers agricultural groups such as syngenta, b s f, down. cells, arguments are based on size, shape color behind you really ation h f one f. one is important here. it means 1st generation hybrid
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the breathing of hybrid works is take the challenge that he does, for example, has lunch, but to pale to process with another variety whose fruits up beautifully red, much too small. from this cross pollination, a hybrid is creating a plant that contains genes from both the large, pale tomato and the small red one. from as early as the 1920s sciences around the world have been using this technology, the main goal to produce an indestructible tomato. we knew about crash for cars, but foot and the only with the help of genetic engineering was this possibly in 1990 through the
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flavors saver to marcia was launched in the usa when if the trojans listen to mercy variety split, picking scientists began looking for the eternal tomato, huh. i led them to israel for more than 70 years, families here have managed to grow fruit and vegetables in the middle of the me. at the hebrew university of jerusalem, we meet one of the creators of the almost immortal tomato. him being rich. the
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79 year old professor emeritus continues to develop perfect hybrid plans. this is a very greenhouse, so each plant is different. and i say, well, was this blunted look stronger than this one, for instance? and definitely more than this one. we look for the differences in order to develop something which is better than the existing material. ah, the researcher and his team work at the university. but on behalf of private companies, they work is currently funded by the french, the producer level. ah, it's owned by them. i cannot, i cannot give it to anybody else. this is too expensive to them. you are the only one that got into the green up. so besides, you know, i can get it to me then on creation tomorrow for southern europe. there is a big one. really moreno looking to have a winning eyebrow in the market. whichever food size around 300 grams,
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a tomato as big as a great friday. and it should grow horizontally o'clock though each of the flower organize. usually the cluster has 3 dimensions of fruit growing every possible direction. people like to do what we call a fish bone cluster, from pecking point of view. if you have 3 dimensions, very difficult to pick in a box. when you have a 2 dimension, you can put one on top of the other and it's much easier for the design of hybrid to single variety across the flower of one mated with the pollen of the other. in the way it stuck pulling. you need to come to the opener, lama. this is what we call out deficient b. actually, you know what it is? let's just move the brass and put the hook over
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into the bottom. you can see yellow, yellow dust. any, today we come with the fallen and i will make it a point in age and how many crossing you make for to have one i v and to make a commission low, but probably $400.00 or 100 like that. or every year. sometimes gummy morning on the 30 or you can go to a huge and this is how high me and i've been a bitch and his team of to thousands of was putting nations created the eternal tomato in the late 19 seventies. their invention revolutionized the world market. where you begin to work on the long shelf life because because of this waste, the 4 percent of the news before this mutation,
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the limit 2 to 3 days, full days at the most when we export it to mothers to europe and we expose the lot them off the roof, we used to flight by airplanes, because if it has to go by boat, from israel to most save, the mother will be motion nobody. nobody would touch it. to extend the shelf life, the scientist uses the mutation he discovered by chance. the purpose of this model is to disseminate to see for next generation. so the moment the seeds are right, it will fall off the bush bump into the ground, explode, and all these jews will, will run all over as far away from the mother plant as possible in order to conquer molto. we don't want it, it's an desired trade for human beings. and here we have
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a mutation the seemingly can provide the solution to the new hybrids. the israeli research has crossed plans for the classic tomato variety. his fruits rose after 3 days with mutated fans whose genes prevent the fruit from ripening the result hybrid that decomposes much more slowly after harvesting. yeah, we're going to do is simple experiment on the right at perfect leslie feasible, hybrid free ah miffed a traditional foam as tomato it is anything but perfect with yellow spotted skin and smooth flu. ah, no, we just have to wait. after 3 days,
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both tomatoes are still firm and presentable. after one week the farmer's tomato is unassailable. the black spots indicated deterioration and the hybrid unchanged, even after 2 weeks. the stem has come loose, but that's not only after $25.00 days is the hybrid tomato deemed not fit to be sold as it developed, moody and loose skin the the normal smarter now looks like this. on the supermarket shelf. only the hybrid is able to be displayed for 3 weeks. but eternal youth cause its price. you can taste of in
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the genes for inhibition, i've been inhibition. carry with them. some negative traits are for instance flavor, that taste deteriorates and less no tree in. but i don't know because we know that never measured only later in the 90s, in the early 2 thousands we started looking into the quality traits. i offered a project like that to many said companies. i even gave it a name. i called it a stomach y a with an ac me. and they said it would be much healthy at the model. we don't have it in supermarkets is going to take the industries they don't. can the industry, the seed produces the israeli company. his era is one of the heavy weights in the
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seed market era is millions, with the eternal come on in 2003. his ear was bought out by the multinational. lemme with an annual turnover of several 1000000000 years. following the acquisition of his era, lima girl became one of the largest c produces in the world. in the middle of the negative desert, the company is experimenting with new hybrids. variety urine zeros is the product manager responsible for the worldwide marketing of tomato seats. the yell rosenfeld is the price officer for you. the protocol for station the chas. all 120 has 0 varieties,
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are grown in this greenhouse the going to show you, for example, a tomatoes that we call it. um, you know, he's a very famous a tomato into a key today is the green part of the tomato. it's like a mustache, you know, there is a, jamie flores listed. yes. yes. so you see very, very nice color, very from tomato is coming from the long shelf life family also. am. you mean it has the launches? inside what percentage of all your verity but i didn't calculate what i assume today around the 5050 long shelf life apartments all the days long shell syfy in the, in the fall for a long time. we saw that the was influence to reduce the taste of the tomato and now we are going back and try to increase that this again of the tomato jeroen. she
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ross was to prove to us that durable tomatoes can also be delicious. taste ok. like a little bit we said, we said not all the time. i don't need to have the days because if you had all the voice and assault you don't need me. i tell you, i know what intimate this is. ok. ok. there is a worse all the amounts within what they want. this is ok. what we're looking more and more is it to have a good color and good firmness and a good taste and the, the nutrients intimate or steel. it's a small player in the market for cooking, and it is hybrid breeding. the main reason for the loss of nutrients and tomatoes
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meet me southern france. where did i say when is the last traditional seed produces and from lives? john lewis, who does not produce hybrid tomorrow, has he creates what he calls old varieties. this is how we obtain seats. because seed stay on the bottom and the skin floats to the tongue. when was the float deal to? everyone used to know this technique of reducing seeds for themselves after psychiatry to farmers knew that the next harvest depended on the seeds notes. and they were very careful when producing them for the next one. some a few, 8 the tomatoes yourself. but the seats were always the most important thing most today, no farmer produces them anymore. and they companies do that from blue,
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a dying tradition. yes. almost on orthodontia. i teach the in this greenhouse leak cultivates only the old phone varieties 100 percent nature. it all sounds about it seems a bit wild and chaotic because i only have a small area of land to work. to make the most of the space for my squeezed the tomatoes in close together for only working with soil and without chemical simple you know, and i don't use any 3rd party products at all in this greenhouse. i grow about 20 different varieties of tomatoes. do that, what do they all have in common?
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so that i know hybrid by, you know, cross pollination by you to cosmo. i thought, but do these old arise? he's contain more nutrients for modern hybrids. we decide to analyze them both. these really looks tomatoes and here is a similar looking hybrid from the supermarket. we sent both off on the same day to state laboratory to evaluate the ingredients was 3 weeks later the results are available. in the case of the hybrid tomato, all 5 values they compared a much low in the hybrid contains 63 percent less calcium, 29 percent less magnesium and 72 percent less bittman c.
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the hybrid contains less than half of the anti oxygen, like a pain, and less than half the health promoting secondary plant compounds of policy. then the thumb is tomorrow. is consistent with the idea that there is a relationship between taste and nutrient content. this is published by professor clay at the university of florida, and he made the observation in this paper that many of the flavor components of tomatoes are derived from human nutrients. when you eat a tomato that has good flavor, that means that it probably also had good amounts of the nutrients that were used to make that flavor. it's a consequence of averages ation. it's consistent with all of the other evidence breeders select for you,
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but they're also looking for other economic traits. and in the process of making that change. they also cause a change in the chemistry of the tomato, lima, the parent company of his era is a global player in the seat business. in paris, the journalist in the leasing needs, the vice president for lima, calls international affairs. and you are part of the management of a globally operating c producer, unless you don't have you ever analyzed the nutrient content of your tomatoes, don't vote on that. so it depends on the growing conditions, not on the variety of value to as so this problem is not a concern of yours, or shall i didn't say that like the nutritional quality of our products was a very important issue for us. the values didn't come up, said his own, it seems that the ice on it in israel, we met professor read the you know him,
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we say it's like i said, you know, he invented a tomato that last for 3 weeks. you've been where? yes, a new a plane to us that the longevity gene blocks the ripening process of the proved the development of the nutrients develop monday new female high stand by watch. i told you post. i think the tomato growers have the greatest influence on the ines sunny tomato. and the responsibility of dealing with this is then as they have the most significant impact. because see what you want to buy the f one hybrid have another huge advantage. we'll see it suppliers seeds can only be used. one, me, if you can see from the freezer hybrid to the mixture genes becomes a game of chance. and the next generation may produce tiny small or rapidly fussing fruit. this is why farmers have to buy new tomato seats every year.
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the profit of all market for producers like his era in israel and the small seats are incredibly expensive. how much is one kilowatt seats? so the sign of 2 made to this kind of tomato today can reach the 400000 euro. what for kilogram will seats? what? 400000 euro or more? yes, you can buy a house with this. i've heard that the to me to do more capital gain of all the. yes. the margin on our margins. we can get into middle. why? because it's expensive, expensive seats as we also demands. so way to, yeah, it's a good business for us if it's not, we don't to hear full 100000 heroes for one kilo of these kilo cherry tomato seats
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. no tomatoes cost around $60000.00 euros per kilo more even than gold. you produce the total today in $22.00 different countries. something all over the world and like kind of country like, like israel, i guess in thailand like in chilling with in spain in india in many places. ready oh seats that are more valuable than gold. ready produced in no way countries where neighbor cars ah, the next call is indian. this is the reason for the long journey. so you'll see an investigation by the dutch human rights organization. a reason they claim that 16 percent of the work is in the business actually under 14 years of age.
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ah, for example, in the indian states have comma tucker. the remote villages are among the poorest in the country. the climate in south india is perfect for growing vegetable every year. 160000 peters of tomato seats are supported from him. the all global play is in the seed market. have a presence in india. b, a says do poll, bio monsanto. syngenta and lima robbie rush works on behalf of aris in this region and fights against the exploitation of child labor. i took these the day before yesterday. around
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12000000 children in india work under the condition since 2016. it has been forbidden for children under 14 to work now and then we observe from a distance and count worker. no, i didn't see how big or small they argue that randy says that the seats of hybrid tomatoes are mostly collected by children. many children were working, but now the harvest is over. the fields are almost empty. but in the greenhouse, we can see humans sitting with this company works for the multinational corporations. syngenta faced in switzerland. about 10 women and girls are pruning tomato plants when the
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smallest of the girls seize us, another worker signals that she should squat down. how long are you went up to the 5th grade news, how now you don't go to school anymore with them. know how old are you? she's 17 and you find me 18. why don't you go to school? there on on here. only the primary school. how long have you been working there? for 3 years. she started before me. it was in the month that since when do you work? since she left school at 11,
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this girl is supposed to be 17. we all find it hard to believe. the syngenta purchase is that seeds from around $25000.00 mostly small hold firm is throughout india. we ask, this was multinational how it feels about child labor. the answers sounds good, but it's not specific. syngenta compliant with all labor laws. the syngenta fed labor program promotes these and working conditions under poses child labor children cheap labor. but there is another reason why they are so often used in production. as the author of the report. soiled seeds knows too well in january, then this is an independent research and has been researching child labor in the
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hybrid seed production for 15 years. the hybridization act, which is the very delicate request, a lot of the children are preferred because they can do this is a pretty to actually reduce this really faster than or don't. and also we can see who children can do the work for 3. busy that is the kind of calculation farm house and v d and, and for the farm is depend on child labor because they are poorly paid by the corporations department. start scribbling, actually to have it looked back with margin. this is the how to
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have the labor and be good at mandation to divert good. the margin will be ready, nominal, or something that would be a new margin for the but not any children are exploited on what is evident in common taka only women work in the seed, producing tomato feels the drama tillman explains this to us on his from go that go down major for who? h include. we have 3. darius e s h m close is a subsidiary of lamar cars. the french c producer has hundreds of farms and the contract in the region. she pollinating the plans right now bent 8 hours
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a day. the women pluck pollen from the flowers with tweezers beneath the scorching sun. but why are there no men working under the tomorrow? the last minute more expensive? we only hire them for cutting and to carry loads. they called $300.00 rupees per day. women work for $200.00 the daily ways of less than 2 years. 50 is a legal, even in the income at the minimum weight and agriculture is $350.00 rupees. around 4 years a day these women only received 60 percent of the legal minimum wage. jackie, why do you work here? because there is no other work right now. normally we work in the right fields and harvest, right?
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but at the moment there is nothing except pollination. is this work difficult? you know pretty good. yeah. my eyes are so are because we are so concentrated and i have about back out here. it's hard work, but we also have to earn a living one get we get $102.00 euros of tomato see if we on $26.00 heroes more so we could pay the women what they're asking for and still have a profit or whatever to get over the phone is breaking the law because they don't get an additional $26.00 euros per kilo limit because sells the seed in europe for an average of $60000.00 euros per kilo. all the company is aware of this illegal practice. we visit an indian location belonging to a close with
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a hidden camera. at 1st, it doesn't look good to god. i don't know. i don't mean for see once of offer but for us. but we make a documentary about the in the country, particularly a friend. oh, what fun as we come from france, like the parent company, them a call. it seems to open doors were not to to, to the manager. like, oh, good man. the man phones his head office. okay. we got ready to do it, but the team is surprised with
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a sudden offer of famous indian hospitality. the house was a v okay. little we're in. this is where the c drive before they are exposed. during the interview, the manager admits he knows that his contract farmers are paying their workers below the legal minimum wage voices. a salary for one worker, 200 for some time. ok, that has no less than 2 years 50. the manager goes on to reveal that the company
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doesn't even pay its own people the minimum wage. how much out they are in close from doing maybe just over 3 years. no one has a now to know how much the seats are worth in europe. what's the name of it to make it a good number? not me in life, they are good ladies in back in paris does limit because know about these practices and i still going to say, are you familiar with this record soil seeds? i have it here. yes. i don't think that it was written in 2015 and examined the problems of child labor and the exploitation of women was and here on page 6,
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it says law. the proportion of children under 14 years of age is between 10.5 and 16.3 percent of all field workers. i'm working for lima, a medical appointment she was because 1st of all, i can assure you clearly and unequivocally. there is no child labor at the lima grand sites to sit during my god. what about the subcontracted farmers who work for you in india? can you assure us that there is no child labor there either sympathy to city? so we've reduced these from 10 or 15 percent to less than one percent. all measures are being taken to achieve the pre which measures kirkpatrick contractual measures to ban child labor. i do for we continue to educate, inform, raise awareness, and if necessary, impose sanctions to prevent child labor, lima grant, as much as possible, or talk to cooper high,
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don't fall negative too much as possible. hi, this child labor is a very serious issue. we have a 0 tolerance level of high call the whole me see, it's been 10. we have to be 100 percent certain in a country like india and probably not. but our determination is an unwavering modalities. only some companies that work for you. we have med women who are paid below the minimum wage against $200.00 rupees per day instead of $330.00. what do you say to that? come up there. so i don't agree with this assertion. would require us to come up with something else. you claim that the indian guy and he's received the legal minimum wage of a $330.00 rupees per day. in reality, lima pay, that's workers. $300.00 a month manager has actually confirmed this. lisa le, wherever we operate,
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lima gra employees and paid according to the legal minimum wage. ohio. and i take issue with your allegation is sort of so much it is almost impossible to avoid hybrid plans. i in 202060 percent of the world's commercial feeds. and by full chemical giant bio monsanto down to po syngenta and via diversity is not an issue for these corporations. in 2009 an exit wound the world about this development alleviated chatelle, who until 2014 was the us special ref. what's her on the right to
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75 percent of whatever he has as a result of the pressure to see is option full, improved, right. we visit tissue to in brussels in me this, it works in an international team of experts for sustainable food systems. his message, the wolf suff, is less from hunger than from malnutrition. if it she, mo, see the figure is alarming on the bank. we have already lost 75 percent and plan for writing. bio diversity is not just a luxury from bot. net booklet also helps to secure global food supplies. we don't know what the future and climate change will bring to you, which are harmful insects and diseases willing best in our plants. one of those, when we need the natural reserves of a diverse plant world,
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where to cope with unforeseeable grasp on the, on your multi c p. well, the close business goes hand in hand with a pesticide business. 3 of the 4 world lead is producing seeds also produce pesticides, bio monsanto, delta cole, and syngenta on the farmers are always offered a complete package deal. they are told that they will only get a good harvest with this pesticide or at that fertilizer of exhibition. for example, some seeds are developed that are resistant to certain active substances. he was at home, some seeds unlike the trojan horse for echo chemicals. more than $4000000.00 tons of pesticides are sprayed on the every year. at some point, we will all eat the same thing from car to miami, from paris to bangkok. is that tomorrow's world? for thousands of years we had
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a large quantity and variety of c. d value and the seeds in moved to year after year with the harvest, by farmers that were using methods gold and plenty that would now be considered today as being traditional issues with another poet, him all scratching specialist companies have begun to perform this process of selection and reproduction, which in turn has put seeds on the market that can produce large quantities of genetically modified agricultural produce equal genetic more. you don't get ready for your distribution of commercial sales and which all rights are owned by a handful of major trans national companies where you means that agriculture will no longer be sustainable for many small farmers in developing countries. therefore, we're going to see a gradual worldwide destruction of small scale, foreigners like you to be an initial won't get increasingly, consumers and foam is protesting. they demand free feeds,
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natural seats that are not owned for the not i group chemical corporations in the sense of firms resistance movement is gaining popularity as socio still cocoa t lee is situated in a remote unknown case, the nonprofit organization. the aim is to protect traditional plans and forgotten vegetable varieties. the seat collection includes over $2400.00 vegetable varieties from bays. cucumbers to orange with chart for quite a range of colors is amazing. like you can to, to, to the standardization of agriculture. species have fallen down a genetic funnels. most people, for example, think sweet charts a green and white and rolling account. they sit down,
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but there's an incredible diversity of swiss chance and all of the colors of the rainbow that we don't c, normally to do. the cookie lee has also started a seats without frontiers initiative. me. this is where we ship the parcel for the solidarity campaign seeds without frontiers. once. every year we spend hundreds of packages worldwide. this is feedback for some of the projects we supported from where we're virtually everywhere. india, central and south america, asia shared countries where the population is dominated by the agro, chemical and food industry multinational. as a result, they sometimes quickly lose all their natural varieties, sometimes in just one or 2 growing seasons. ah, by saving the own righty. and by growing traditional terms,
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the farmers and consumers have been chose to choose an alternative to standardized fruits and vegetables. and can choose food that is good for us, as well as l t. ah, president george w bush invited us to summer home. we talked about the past and the special relationships to chancellor. i'm going, i'm not afraid to make a decision, was not afraid to leave the kind of person with a lovely song. and that's a person i got to know the exclusive interview with george w bush. 90 minutes on d. w. in december,
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