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ah, the news . this is the w news alive from berlin tonight, the former us president who launched america's longest wars is ending the war in afghanistan. now, is a mistake. i'm afraid afghan women and girls are going to suffer unspeakable harm. is it a mistake to withdraw? i think it is. yeah, i think because i think the consequences are going to be unbelievably bad. in an exclusive interview with the w news, former president george w bush says natives asked and allies are being left behind to be slaughtered. also coming up tonight within 60 wildfires,
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arranging across the u. s. wes made worse by a brutal heat way firefighters say the blazes are getting bigger as climate change makes dry spells worse, and europe's carbon free future. the easy lays out in a business plan to give it away from fossil fuels by the end of the decade. ah, i bring up is good to have you with us. we start with striking remarks made by former us president george w bush and an exclusive interview with the w news. he says that he believes withdrawal and u. s. a native troops from f dana stand is a mistake. president bush added that he fears that the pull out of troops would lead to women and girls suffering at the hands of the tale. but he also spoke of his relationship with german chancellor agular miracle, praising her for her support of the military mission in afghanistan. i was very
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pleased. she was supportive of troops in afghanistan. i'm by the way, and one of the reasons why is because she saw the progress that could be made for young girls and women. and i'm going to stand as a believable that society changed from the brutality of the taliban. and al, or sudden sadly, i'm afraid i have gained women and girls are going to suffer. unspeakable harm is a mistake. so withdrawal i, you know, i think it is. yeah, i think because i think the consequences are going to be unbelievably bad. and i'm sad and i spent a lot and i spent a lot of time with afghan women and, and they're scared. and i think about all the interpreters and people that help not only us troops, nato troops. and they're just, it seems like there's, you can be left behind to be slaughtered by the very brutal people and it breaks my
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heart. it was a former us president there, george w bush speaking in an exclusive interview with our washington bureau chief in his pole in his joins me now from washington. good evening to you is. it's unusual for a former us president to even talk publicly about the policies or decisions of a sitting president, but that is what george w bush did when he sat down to talk with you, give us a sense more about how he really feels about this. withdraw, you know, friend, it is important to understand that this interview was conducted because of the under the medical and his specific relationship to her. so it was very warm and a very honest atmosphere. and in this atmosphere, i asked him about the, the past wars and how he feels about that. and he then he came up with a gun is done and said what we just played. and i think it's really what you think . i really think he deeply is convinced that that is a huge mistake withdrawal of the troops and that as he says, like,
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mainly women and young girls who suffer from that is that want bush fears most i mean yes, i think that is like on the this is what you like emotionally. fields feel, fears, most. but we also have, i actually want to give you a little bit of perspective on all of us, you know, bush as many of the long time conservative republicans are convinced that the goal to fight terrorism in the middle east was necessary. and actually still isn't that it is really dangerous to leave of gone this done in other countries alone because that might be able enable terrorists to grow further. and it's interesting that we're hearing the former president criticize the decision by fitting president biden biden has defended his decision to withdraw troops from
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afghanistan. this is what he said just last week. take a listen. we did not go to afghanistan to nation bill and it's the right and the responsibility of afghan people alone to decide their future and how they want to run their country. so the president saying we didn't go to afghanistan to nation build. so what was former president bush's original objective that when he launched the board? if dana stand in 2001 well, he initiated the war in afghanistan as part of the white toes are. his whitehouse go to fight the war on terrorism, also $911.00 because we have to be fair here. and, you know, i think many of us remember that there was a real fear about global terrorism and not only in the united states, but also all around the world. but now the 20th, after the war and after it attentions kind of got modeled and became extremely
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unpopular. now the sitting president, president biden wants to stop this never ending also because mary, many, many americans are kind of tired to pay for these wars and also kind of lose young american soldiers. i noticed too, in the interview with you that the former president, he did not mention biden by name. what does that tell you meet with he criticizing the former president indirectly i think this was because main intention again, that was a very open and honest conversation. i think he really cares about the situation of women and girls, but also like average people, enough gone is done. but on the other hand, he's a professional politician and i'm sure he knows what he's saying. so i think he's deeply convinced that this is a mistake, and therefore he mentioned that, but he didn't mention biden's name because he doesn't want to offend him in this
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interview. but he wants to make his stance clear. washington bureau chief in his poll in his think he will be talking with you later in the day, more about this exclusive interview. thank you. or let's get reaction from afghanistan. journalist ali lativia is incredible. he has been covering the native mission in afghanistan for years. it's good to have you with us. tonight's former president bush weighing in as you heard calling to withdraw from the stand. a mistake is that a view that is shared on the ground there in afghan estate? it's not too much that it's necessarily a mistake. it's more that there are no conditions being put on to withdraw, not on the top barn or on the government, not on the peace process. but i think if we're talking about mistakes made during the last 20 years, you know, a lot of people will say, bush made plenty of mistakes. you know, he never really gave the possibility of negotiation with the color bon,
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especially towards the end of his presidency. one, that's all a bond, we're very much in a weaker position. a chance to go forward. you know, a lot of people say the time for negotiation with the taliban ways. essentially what would have been the president of the endo, the presidency of george bush, or the middle of the president obama? not during donald trump and joe biden. so if we're talking about mistake, then we have to go back through the entire 20 years and look at the mistake of bush and each of the successor leading up to bite and, and all the, what about the, the iraq factor of the iraq invasion took place 2 years after the war in afghanistan started, is there a feeling there that once the iraq war started, there just wasn't enough attention anymore on afghanistan? that's exactly. so i was in the united states at the time because that's where i grew up. and i remember that's what we were talking about. we were saying that, you know, so much of the focus,
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everything in the news. everything in the media is about iraq. and there is no more talk any more about avalon it's on. so if there is no more talk, then how much actual military and political focus on the bonus on is there as well . i mean, i even remember, you know, i've, on the u. s. criticizing the president at the time home id cards. i for not standing up against the warranty at all, which many of us thought was illegal. and i remember people were saying, look, he's in a, at that time saying he's in a bad position. you know, he needs to be us support. he needs to keep them happy and you know, it's just not politically prudent, especially with all the attention that will go to it up to try and keep some of the attention on i one on. and clearly that didn't work either. the former us president, seeing that he's worried about the translators in the interpreters who worked with us in a to troops being left behind. but that is not exactly what is happening. we were getting confirmation today again from the white house that these translators and
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interpreters will be flown out of the country beginning this month. is that what you're hearing? that is what we're hearing. but the other thing is if you talk to people who have application for, for these v says they are stuck in sort of a bureaucratic and logistical nightmare. because what they're finding themselves, then they're finding something, situations where if you don't recall exact dates, exact names, exact places where you can very easily be disqualified or if you don't meet certain like timeline threshold. and then if you don't serve more than a year or 2 years or however long, the specific threshold is, all of these things are getting in the way of hundreds, if not thousands of people are getting the visa and a lot of them aren't getting clear answers because you have to remember their superiors were here years ago for a lot of time for maybe even a few months, not much longer. and so for them to get, you know, legitimate answers and documents and be able to prove their cases is also very
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difficult. so yes, you know, the u. s. is planning this, but the bureaucratic and logistical part is proving a major hurdle for a lot of people. and what about the taliban? there were reports today that the taliban hoisted its flag at a key border crossing with pakistan. today they continued to regain control the territory, don't they do. and again this, this, this is part of what people are saying in terms of, you know, it's very quaint that george bush is now talking about mistakes. when, you know, it's easy to say that joe biden and making a mistake at the end. but without saying, you know, what were the mistakes that he made because you know, by 2005, 2006, it's all a bond where much less potent they were by all measures, you know, essentially just wiped out. and yet, how was it that from then until now they've been able to reconstitute themselves and really pose the oppose a threat to the point where they're able to capture spin bolduc. so i think this is
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a question that george bush will eventually have to sit down with and really think about for himself as well as well. brock obama and trump. yeah. as he say, it's easier to start a war than to in a war. and in a stand the perfect example alan tv journalist joining us tonight from cobble we appreciate your reporting. thank you. thank you. and you can watch our full interview with former us president george w bush at d, w dot com. you can also see it on our youtube channel, or let's take a look now and some of the other stories that are making headlines around the world . on the 5th anniversary of asia 100 attack in these france. the country has paid tribute to the victims, 86 people died on july 14th, 2016. when the truck plowed into a large crowd celebrating bus feel, dec speaking to survivors and families, the prime minister appealed for unity and said that france will never surrender. in the face of heat and brutality. the united arab emirates has opened an embassy and
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israel. it's held in televi tv's new stock exchange building and marks the latest step towards the normalization of relations following a us brokerage. reconciliation deal last year. moss has slammed the inauguration as a quote stabbed in the back of the palestinian people. heavy rain and strong winds are causing flooding across parts of western and central europe. one man is missing in the german state of saxony, and a disaster alert has been issued in hall county near the border with the check republic. urologist expect more heavy rain. it's under storms in the coming days. yeah. were staying with the weather. wildfires ravaging parts of the western united states forcing hundreds to evacuate their homes. the blazes have been exacerbated by a record smashing heat way that has killed more than 100 people in the state of oregon alone. scientists are pointing the finger at climate change feeling a mega drought that has turn swain's of the u. s. into
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a tinderbox. oregon like fire is the largest of nearly 60 active wildfires, currently burning across the western united states. the extent of the blaze can be seen best from above. it now covers an area larger than that of new york city, forcing residence in its path to evacuate their homes. this is my 1st wildfire, and i will tell you a scary. it's not to make you cry age enough to make 6 or stomach because you don't know if you're going to be the one that loses her house. or you sit there and watch your neighbor lose their house and there's nothing you can do about it. many have had to take refuge in shelters like this, while the fires have been found, find extreme heat wave, with temperatures reaching 47 degrees celsius, the heat alone has proven deadly. at least 50 full people have died from hot
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weather in oregon alone. over the last few weeks, the age range is from $4897.00 with an average age of 70. so that affirms what we know, which is that whole to older individuals are at higher risk of heat related illness . the majority of them died alone. and without air conditioning, scientists offer little consolation. they see a direct link between climate change and heat was that of fueling these extreme fi of those fires are also raging in california. that's where we want to go. now i'm joined by jason camper donia, the los angeles bureau chief of i heart media. jason is good to have you on the show. just tell me a little bit about the situation right now in california. what's it like? it's hot and it's windy. i'm in the southern part, los angeles county,
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on the power burnings peninsula. it's about 85 degrees today. and there's a, there's a slight breeze. but if you go inland about 40 to 50 miles, you're looking at temperature as well above 100 degrees. and it's just causing everything to be dry. and it's basically a tinderbox and spot fire. it's broken out over the past few days in several areas, and firefighters are doing a great job. jumping on those fires and preventing massive wildfires from breaking out and, but it seems this wildfire season, it seems to get longer every year. and what challenges then, are the firefighters facing, as they tried to extinguish these places? you know, it's really funny the firefighters that i have spoken to no longer call it a fire, steve, and they just say, california is a year round. tinderbox and fires can break out at any time because we don't get much rain hear. thunder storm broke out yesterday. morning in parts of southern
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california which help but then it started, you know, thunder and lightning, and the lightning cause a couple of fires. so they're, they're spread out and they're spread varies. and one of the biggest story that i think that's going to come when in january, when the temperature is really cool off and we do get some rain in the area, is how much over time we're spending on preventing the massive wildfires and all the cruise that we have to have in place 247365 these days. and all of that overtime cost is really going to take it to the state budget. and that's really the biggest obstacle that they have that and then battling mother nature which you never know what she's going to do. it is expensive to be on guard all the time. the are enough resources being appropriated to deal with the seemingly endless wildfires. absolutely. we are pulling in firefighters from surrounding states if they don't have fires in those states. and we share resources across state lines
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quite often. and one of the hardest things to battle is exhaustion when firefighters are out on the lines for $3.00 and $4.00 and $5.00 days at a time. they need food, they need water, they need rest. and sometimes in order to save a community, they don't get any of those. and those guys just keep fighting on and they keep pushing forward to try and save as many lives in as many structures as they can. jason kept only with the latest from los angeles street. we appreciate your reporting tonight. thank you. thank you. and we're going to stay with climate change the european commission today and build a sweeping plan to cut you carbon emissions. 55 percent by the year 2030. that's the end of this decade. now to do this, the he was proposing ending the sale of petrol and diesel cars by the year 2035. it also calls for higher energy efficiency standards and a carbon tax. they're both the united states and china oppose. critics say the plan
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places too high of a burden on citizens, especially in poor european countries. environmental activist say the proposal doesn't go far enough. quite a good moon landing in 1969, a historic day. and an event that europe's leaders have compared to another historic challenge, the fight against climate change. we do not have all of the answers yet. today's the start of a journey. but this is your man on the moon moment. the you aims to make europe the 1st climate neutral continent by 2050. that means no more carbons should be admitted into the atmosphere than what's absorbed. for example, by forests. as a 1st step on this journey, you leaders have pledged to cut emissions by 55 percent by 2030. but critics
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say these cards are nowhere near enough to meet the goals of the 2015 parents agreement. others hear less wealthy you countries and many of its poor citizens won't be able to afford the measures. the e. u, though, has promised to help lower income households and fight climate change by introducing a package of new laws. we want to call over now the tim gore in stock home sweeten . he's the head of the low carbon and circular economy program at the institute for european environmental policy. that's a sustainability. think tank that space in brussels. it's good to have you on the show him me. this is an ambitious plan that europe is presenting to itself and the world. is it? what is needed to meet the promises and the pledges of the parents climate agreement? well, thanks for having me. and the 1st thing to say is that of course we need one more action, but this is the e u. not only putting on the table
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a new strengthened climate reduction target by 203055 percent reductions below $990.00 levels, but critically also setting out a comprehensive plan to actually achieve it. so that's a world 1st and what this package is really built on is the polluter pays principal . it's going to extend carbon pricing to around 2 thirds of emissions in the u. that's a good thing. as long as we make sure that the revenues it generates, and it's going to generate about a 100000000 years a year by the end of the decade. as long as we spend those revenues, well, we can both cut the emissions and reduce inequality in europe at the same time. you say making the polluter pay. i know a lot of people watching will wonder, does that mean making the consumer pay more as well? well, timidly it will, because in the end, if you are the business to change what they're doing to take account of the carbon
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emissions that they're producing well, they tend to do is pass that on to consumers. so doesn't matter in the end, whether you try and regulate or the use of carbon price consume, as we'll have to pay. now, the advantage of doing this with the carbon prices that you will generate substantial revenues in the process. i really critical question is how you then use those revenues to make sure that the current citizens are not bearing the burden. so i think it's important that the commission today has set out some initial plans for climate social funds that is going to generate billions and direct those toward some of the poorest. how so across the you to help them with the transition is all about, you know, at embedding span is that the whole proposals, i think what we've had today the start, and now we need to build on that. to me about 30 seconds. we just ask you, and there are 27 members of the european union, where these measures have to be watered down before we finally get an approval by everyone. well, inevitably, nobody gets everything that they want. there's also the european parliament to take
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into account. they'll have to use it for thing as well. i think the key here is it's a package deal. so you're going to have to horse trading. but as long as politicians can sell this to their publics, to show that actually this is going to be good for their health is going to be good for jobs. and he's going to make sure that we have a safer climate, both for current generations and future generations. if they can do that. i think that the package will get through to more with the institute for european environmental policy. can we appreciate your time and your insights tonight? thank you. thanks. well, fears over food and fuel shortages are growing in south africa and they have looting and violence ranges for a 6 day authority. say hospitals are running out of oxygen, drugs, and food as writing disrupt supply chains. more than 70 people have been killed in some of the worst violence that the country has seen in years. following the jailing of former president jacob zoom. a building is on fire. a
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baby is thrown down thankfully caused by a small crowd that gathered below. others managed to make their escape to the ground floor shops were looted and set ablaze. durban is one of the cities in south africa, being rocked by unrest and businesses are paying a high price in some places, south africans are now force the queue for essentials. well, i think we just a bit concerned about fuel and water at the stage, but otherwise we can get to go. hopefully the future supplies is stopped running in from next week. some suspected looters have been arrested. but in this small, in a town outside johannesburg, it looks like a free for all the talk. thank you to see what you've pulled up. and what's going thoughtful, andrea, you know,
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it's all to the other people out there that look like that. and dave, you turn outside for toria, police fire on looters, and the military has been sent in to so went to try to restore law and order. the protest began last week after former president jacob duma began serving a 15 month cale term for contempt of court. but frustration over inequality and rising unemployment are also fueling the chaos. i guess, i guess the real reason is because we have nothing and when you see other people stealing at some point, you realize that shops will close and you'll be left with nothing. so you ask yourself, after all of this, how will i survive with the way things are? for now, there is no sign of the unrest letting up or corresponding christine with what is
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in cape town. and she says there, there is no sign of tensions easy. we are now on god here for the racial tensions that are flaring up, particularly in was when it's how this is among the black and indian communities. essentially what it's come down to is that you've got civilians. now, in the 2 provinces, basically standing in promot enforcement, they are heavily on the basis that we are guarding our property. and of course, that has pensions between communities in the process of the problem that wasn't in the tell. it was white people and communities as well. and so these are the fee is he's also warned about violence where you will see attacks on foreign nationals that we already seen, some foreign nationals, pakistani national for example, closing up the shop in anticipation that they will be the next target essentially. so there is no sign of less up when it comes to the tensions. in fact, it's starting to to move into other forms of tension,
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particularly the racial tension at the moment. the w christine where they are reporting from cape town. conflict zone between sebastian is up. next, i'll be back at the top of the hour with more world news followed by the day to see you then the use use the news. the news
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. the news the the, the the, the into the conflict of the 20 years fighting tell about insurgence and failing to defeat them. plato forces i'm pulling out of afghanistan. my guess this week is mid july deputy secretary general of nato, who joins me this week from the alliance's headquarters in belgium, odyssey justify the abandonment of the afghan people at
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a time of macs in conflict. on d. w. oh, you ready to do these places in europe are smashing all the record step into a venture. just don't lose your grid. the treasure map for modern gold trotter's governors. some of us are wicker, breaking into and know also in book form. so many posted out in the world right now, the climate change off the story. this is life less the way from just one week.
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how much was going to really get we still have time to go. i'm going to subscribe more videos like we knew that our decision with role would entail risk. you know, what kind of raising the advance does in imposing on the areas make control public execution india. and it's up to the people to really decide what the future is not up to us after 20 years fighting taliban insurgents and failing to defeat them. nato forces pulling out says, afghan last week or.


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