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right, or poor quality one, float and are removed then the beans are laid out to dry some with whatever the price is there always come times in which prices are low. but as you, but in the good times, i live that we've been able to pay off our debt and update our production facility in both that's improved. the plantation was free. today we have company arrows who has plantations, can rival, the big ones, won't get, get the profits week from coffee growing allowed reuben dario to go to university that made him suspect in the eyes of the government which allied itself with the big landowners during the civil war, when, but when the military realize that the guerrilla were trying to contact them, but they started following us settling up in 1980 soldiers that louis the buildings of the university here. and co. bon, i'm battling a noise in the chain that back then some 40 years ago, reuben dairy pack
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a had to flee his hometown of co van. his name was on the military black class. he found shelter and work with petty coca cola in guatemala city. he'd been a member of the farm as cooperative since the very start. the 1st, whether this is where the strings of the world market for coffee or pulled coffee was one of the 1st truly global commodities. and the stock exchange, guatemala, small farmers are connected to the whole wide world. oh hi. courtney, who trained as a banker put the co op coffee on the commodities market, letting them avoid dot g middleman. the small scale coffee farmers formed their federation in $979.00 in the middle of
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a civil war which pits the army against the maya population. the mayas received support from 3rd world organizations around the world. if the only way that the bounder was so good, they practically turned critical into a charity of other women. if he said it was a place where we can ask for support and they eat up the report, then only came that constant had no future born in that or what would we do when the day came when we stopped receiving any development? but i feel, you know, we better get to work ourselves. i'm was, i fair. my hotel by him was always good and i was an outcast himself when he started working for fed coca cola. before that he built help us with trading companies, coffee business in guatemala, but to be able to increase exports. he'd have had to pay half the bright hold on those of us between that and i wasn't prepared to do that. and so i cool
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switzerland right away, stick to what i should do. you go from monica? a, my boss at the time said i didn't know how things worked in such countries. the sake of the paying bribes was common practice. and it had to be done to sola, those small criminal, holt and i resisted that. and it was clear of a thought i was family my nephew and had no future at the company. move on to this nicole to a comp calling to consider your mind. well, i scored and then came to the physical categor. well, as an advisor later he became the organization director. hello. yes. when you, the very 1st thing i tried to make clear to them was trying to solve your problem, your bill board that need don't wait for someone to arrive with a gold sack. a life has gone flat, potentially doesn't happen. name in plain all call. we have to tackle the problems
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out so that it's and see if we can get some support for the house. and i can tell it's all new. my don't say aid anymore. it's been struck from my vocabulary in how a creates dependency. and that's something no one should have made, you should be able to develop a free leg. and at least that's what i learned in this weekly, opposed harder than the own is the coca cola, the sales manager for 3 decades. he's worked with cortner as he demanded, efficiency and productivity from the co op members. with when i'm in, tell you that talent together picking his pro us, which one he knows, and that i'm a small farmer from what a model. graphy mean to me in the result was 500 percent growth, but at the end because all the co operatives in the federation we invented together behind or wish gotten us ideas last week. ok. in your good. i think the most
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important thing brought to physical was the idea that small farmers needed to take themselves seriously. and this is just the king us group before that was on the day and their organizations were programs to peddle misery buyer in the, in the me, syria, or killer him. this is patsy. on the years we showed them something else is or listen. so, you know, they could be proud of their own work of what they produce item for 3 years, my quality coffee law school, they look for losing all of their 2nd me . a world away from here has become a luxury good and the lifestyle accessory. it gives people invest a few moments of pleasure for the maya people, coffee is intertwined with their recent history. one they've often the french only
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now that they've achieved economic independence. many able to speak to the poverty and torah they've experienced. ah, and cisco cub mirrors is a small farmer, lives together with his children and grandchildren here over the per final this when i went to school for 3 years. no, no. my parents didn't have the money to allow me to pursue my study. i attended school from age 8 to 11, then i just started working without training. so i worked on a coffee on the la c p norm, which was to give you a call. and i think in this remote region of mountainous northern guatemala, another small scale farmer. don hath intellus heavy. oh, hannah is visiting his father now 100 years old. one used to work as
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a force laborer on a coffee plantation. luck. we'll have to coffee. the family converses in the maya language here while i was living here is still worth it. i was born here in this modest area. i'm in the village. one. yeah. i agree with one. okay. and it taught us how to work in the us here. there was never enough to live, so people had to go elsewhere to earn money. i guess. weighed up on i got, i was 7 the 1st time my brother and i a company now the father to the higher the up in the really me or my know, but i'll be in la costa. i was paid with 3 tortillas, thrown in, but only when i filled my basket with at least 12 kilos of coffee. i got a basket was. there were no tears, nor thing will they do it unless the rest of my father would help me with a couple of handfuls of coffee. so that way i got my 3 to 3 and i'm glad
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donna finished yano vo, lift the nepa a town in the department of t. j. she raised 6 children, largely on her own. her husband died in the aftermath of the guatemalan civil war. the last de feliciano coffee harvest is laid out to try one the crazy. i grew up in the whole family. you know, i didn't have any shoes and walked through the streets barefoot with my disability . when i turned 7, my father won't let us know that in this would mean my mother didn't want that either because we had not the money north of him live from my but my father finally relented and i enrolled myself in the company and deal you'll follow them, if we leave it in this way, then there were no female teachers from the issue. and so i took
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a course to be able to work with children. if a lot of a high school nino, the hand, because it worked and the coffee plantations on the post were treated badly and poorly page. and i heard that there was a nice to me. so in those, if you could tell us, yes, it's double oregon erect. let's protest the base of wages. women at 1st it was just one or 2 in 3 or 4 got organized, then they all went off the strike. i waited all the time being and both the military and the gorillas, johnson portland wanted to know who was against for yada. okay. but i wasn't for the military or the guerrilla. you know, i just wanted to work on nickel and you'll see the
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the way go are we will pass it on. well, those again, you both claimed yapping. i have guerrillas at my thinker. you for tampa. lucas, and it's the focus from the mountain network is done from neighbor from cha who last job, who are getting me into such trouble selling. so we going to send them packing, april 10th, i to my mother like that. i hope it will after this with is the late to do that. my . well that's how the kidnapped hands began to matters adoption. a little sick with the rough must see was the
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the it's the town will then we heard of domestic a bow then and shallow check and see you check. and we were afraid and before we knew we thought, sally, we have to flee to the mountain. well, why throw away allied us back? there was other love the service where little people the military came at 5 in the morning and called everyone together. what for love, why now, at 6 o'clock we had to be on the village square. and i said that was the 23rd of
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march 23rd of the model. so they will not have all the men were gathered together in the catholic church. they came out and cares. and an informer said he's one, he's not here or both of them are a lot more. and then they were led to the school and killed my father, my father. or you know, they were shot dead just like that for my fuse being. get arrows i course and look at those 85 men who were killed weren't gorilla think, well no, i don't get ill throughout the whole. my husband worked in childhood and april 1982 when he taught children in the community. if only that only see feel the land and then of course, very strong. children who lawyer in rubber boot that was supposedly getting year old. and children 14, i think it made no difference for the,
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for the rest of the teachers were made to watch and see if they refused. they were forced to hang the children over. they will get our last phone at the end of their phone. my 100 and last mind you, i'm in, you didn't recognize your children anymore. all right. don't to didn't me any more general medical and also he died in 1992 is this was heavier and when the victims were buried, the military sent the women away. oh yeah. ok. this one they said go to santa delfiner taylor. because soon your homes will be on fire. scene also also supported the feel i came out of like us. and so they burned down the village or they lost the more than $300.00 houses. salvia just 2
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weren't for to the ground, both gothic and all that way. well, you know, i was 20 years old though not. there were 30 of us boys and they forced us to work for the military show me but i never killed anyone. i'm sorry, i'm not the kind of person who kill anybody federal law. i'm a decent man. people for this or this a last but those involved are mentioned here. i think up in the security for his, i think a lot paralyzed for the entire on the 23rd of march, 1982 in the water mom and military joined the security for us. i think i locked our log fairly to massacre the village. that can i you long their names are here because they then normally, i mean the civil war lasted until 90924. yeah, the total, 200000 people were killed. most of them my in
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the fight against small gorilla groups, was used as a pretense to conduct the war of annihilation against the indigenous population. after my husband's death, i was left on my own. they 6 kids, though i cared for them when they went to school. but not university. i had no more strength for the in guatemala, 70 percent of the land is owned by just 3 percent of the population. on that very marty holdings. 23000 small farmers have fought hard to achieve economic independence and back when all shows coffee is important. cafe,
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north of it ensures our families survive over the reason that familiar with the lunar golf course. they will. it's the only problem with an actually live from the day or even with small scale farmers organisation fed coca cola is now guatemala, the largest domestic coffee produce. i'm intimately cooperative in a special emphasis on educating women. this is something that is not self evident in this. traditionally patriarchal society rows are mendez from the key chain. people is own fed, coca where the board of directors that if you face when you're a woman, so your places in the kitchen. so it's more credit and you won't inherit anything either, because your husband will take care of your pork to muddy the phoenix. in rosa
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mendez trained to be an executive at fatty coca cola. as a co op member, she's entitled to financial assistance to get a book and also learning we can get from critical kala. it's very helpful for us women to fight on the foot. because at present, it's impossible to get one bank fully than those one course is impulsively up to now. and in her vintage rosa mendez encourages other women to amongst the pate themselves. elements are most important to find the most important message women, if they haven't, if we've never studied, even if we don't have any diploma scatter toner, we can learn everything the for the most. it's almost nothing is impossible. not as simple. simply the sierra delos coach or my tanis mountain range lies in north western, guatemala global warming has reduced the dangerous frost at these high elevation
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benefits. the co op members from total santa rita, their fathers were forced to go and work on the coast, put back coffee with them when they returned to the mountains. but now people have worried races in recent years. the price for a bag of coffee colon from around $200.00 us $1.00 to $100.00. yet the expenses are just the high. it's not enough if you're 3 of them, the price is too low. on the part of the i'm not sure hard and then you have to explain the court proposal. remember that they are reliant on the world market that it happens that the current prices are dependent on the international price of coffee feel. guffy. let me know. he also
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had some good a gap, unease buyer is prepared to pay $25.00 more for 40 milligram, sack of coffee dipping on hearing that those who still have some coffee in storage decide to sell it quickly. coffee determines the rhythm of life for many guatemalans, the fruits of their labors help people around the world wake up each morning. yet producing coffee is full of headaches that can rob its grow as the sleep. mm. mm. the coffee cherry is being harvested and told her son to return near the mexican border. i don't often, this, diana de veal fills, her basket. me or her husband domingo and son by the legal. lo into that make up.
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domingo has been growing coffee since he was a child. that is that i will have a new, our father's worked on the coast in the field on the be i think us forget because there was nothing here and just corn, potatoes and beans but but, but then they began planting coffee themselves because i don't live in brush cafe. here each man family processes their own coffee the using a machine, uncle yolando, freeze the beans from the flesh of the coffee, cherry. then there washed defiance coffee, cherries harvested yields. just one sack of parchment coffee with a beans distilling cloves in my house. during the day,
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the coffee is raked only to ensure even drawing in case of rain. it must be brought in quickly. it takes a few days for the coffee to achieve the desired moisture content of exactly 11.5 percent. but donna feliciano doesn't need a measuring device to tell when it's ready that you could get over the next. i know in my heart when it reached that point meter at the what the coffee gets dried out and has no taste. and he may not in awe domingo once to offer his son a better life. one that's easier than his growing coffee is too much hard work. looking after the bushes, the harvest, calling the sax. so i decided that my son shouldn't follow in my footsteps when were you that it'd be better if he went to see what to do.
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ma'am, is one of the 21 my own languages, spoken in guatemala, where the mans comprised one of the largest ethnic groups. ah, when you, when, when, when i came to the city, there was a group of mosquitoes where he thought they were better than my son. so you start to doubt yourself at the moment, abuse or not been that maybe they are better than us because they speak spanish. what us can the thought to look out in the spaniards? people do it in my head. i thought a maya is as intelligent as m s p, so maybe even more or less, you know, that that was always in my mind. and so i was able to fulfill my dream sample yesterday. so give me give sonia's for an answer for you in the can. sanders, as in the works of fatty coca cola, as an advisor, but to make his dreams come true. he had to get his way at home 1st. yes,
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i couldn't even maybe i got my high school diploma and that's all my parents wanted . so when we felt that i wanted to go on to study at the university, i told them that if you can help me go to the usa. i me, your, me away, but if i hadn't been able to go to university, you know, might be in the us today. ah, for to nato popular as the neo is, uncle is a history teacher. ah, he's established a small museum where he preserves the history and culture of his people less misled on the meyers explanations for the creation of the world. ok, and we're the v are the element of nature and water in air. the sun and the solar lunar i so rarely feel that the christian church so
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demonized are my religion for them. it was the work of devils and said things think that way until close to the end of the 20th century. is on january 29th, 1996 at mail a p treaty with scientists. and only since then have we had freedom of religion? would it leave at 11 am on the civil war trigger. the mass exodus history came back toward the us. the you know, can settle the immigration, began in 1981, a metal, 2000 meals. and when the 1st people went to the united states and sent money home e last with a neighborhood on how those folks were better off the will that mc, what are mahoney and the premier then many of the 1st time a french began to smuggle their countrymen to study aloud,
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there are lots of people smugglers here i went and many have become millionaire, in which case so me on that day, people are no longer leaving the island for love. the rather due to the lack of john, i said, while the winners that, that the immigration is that the us continue to be and let me that i filled out a 1000. there. donna luciano is cannot. he has 6 children to feed her husbands only young. her son santos explains why his brother left the family but not the critic and cries of coffee has fallen deadly. and so my brother both oldest said that it is no longer enough to feed all of it when i press the right michael on mine. so he decided to go to the states and your friends and cousins and money together until he had enough to pay the people smuggler's pocket. don't forget, that's how it was. you know, they'll call you up there and those are the where. yeah. but then on route that
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immigration officers caught him or at least 3 months in jail, but was released on bail. though that's the situation now, medicine back out of the value of young god only knows what will happen to him. it doesn't matter. i meant that he was going in the usa, supported guatemala government and preventing land reform and depressing its indigenous peoples. now the mayan godsa seeking vengeance and it's doubtful that even building a board wall will help at a coca cola. export the half a 1000000 bags of coffee around the world. teach farmer receives $1.00 to $1.00 and a half us dollars per pound. that's enough coffee for consumers to brew 50 cups. java. so most of the money goes to the traders. phil,
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all has gone, not complaining is done for me. i think it would help us much more if the trans national companies purchasing the product, pay taxes where the good, the produced and sold the with the sport who cut off. and it's just a new kind of colonialism. you're the one that really needs dismantling your colonial these most. and he's simply not right to click on both the seat of the stick. one way to maximize profits is to reduce the coffee themselves. the co op members are already supplying the local market with their own beings in the coffee, the roma there are him to the later part and the scent of a new freedom can occur. you have to fight for your dream. the input into the you must be enterprising, and then you have to constantly bessie yourself and the hoarding. and you need to
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