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the discovery of the world around you subscribed to the documentary on you to me the this is the w news, and these are top stories organizes of the toko olympics have announced a total ban on spectators. it follows a new state of emergency declared in the japanese capital due to the rising current of virus infections. foreign fans were already banned. now japanese spectators are being told to say at home. authorities in south africa, se former president jacob xena could be eligible for parole in 4 months. he is now
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in prison after handing himself in on wednesday night zoom. i was avoiding arrested, after being sentenced to 15 months in jail for failing to appear before a corruption inquiry. me in hungry. a controversial new law has come into effect despite condemnation from the european union. the law bands, portrayals of homosexuality. agenda change in school educational materials and some tv shows cause x day it discriminates against l. g p t q people. the european commission is urging hungry to repeal the legislation, but the government for the past defend its decisions. this is the news from berlin . there's much more than a website, the w dot com mm hm. ah . after 2 decades, us and nato troops are leaving afghanistan. the tale bon is quickly moving back in
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. the african interpreters who helped alliance forces in there are thousands of them. say they'll be slaughtered if they can't get out in time today, president biden said those who helped us will be phone out of afghanistan in august . but what about the surge of the tale bomb in 2001 the us went to war because the taliban had given tear was the home in f e. n. a stand in 2021 americas longest war were told is over. everyone is going home, including the taliban. i'm bringing from berlin. this is the day. the news we have spent a lot of time, a lot of effort, a lot of resources and improving the competency and the capability of the afghan national security forces. the withdrawal is essentially an admission of failure of the 20 mission negotiated settlement between the parties. in this case,
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the atlantic public and the telephone is the only way to end 40 years of war. we are not about to turn away, nor are we on any illusions about the perils of today's situation. and now it's their turn, their time to, to, to defend their people. also coming up former south african president, jacob zoom swore before his supporters that he would never go to prison. but last night, in the cover of darkness, zoom turned himself in to the police. i am not scared of doing off bowing to jail for my belief it will not be for the 1st time the reviewers on p b. s. in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with a promise to gain a stand from us president joe biden. us forces are exiting afghanistan after
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a 20 year mission that became known as america's longest war. today by the said, the military campaign will end august 31st while the us will not stay involved in afghanistan, militarily. biden's as diplomatic and humanitarian work will continue in an effort to protect the thousands of african interpreters and translators, who helped us and nato forces by announced that the u. s. military will operate flights throughout august to evacuate them and their families. they will be taken to an unannounced safe country as they wait for their visas to be approved. now the tele bon, are going from strength to strength in afghanistan, taking over more territory. and that process has only accelerated as foreign troops leap biden's message after 20 years. us and native no longer have a job to do in afghanistan, the future of afghanistan must be determined by afghans. and that includes in 2021
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just as it did in 2001, dealing with the tale bar. here is the u. s. president. or military mission. again, sam will conclude on august 30. first, the drawdown is proceeding in a secure and orderly way, prioritizing the safety of our troops as they depart. our military commanders advised me that once i made the decision and the war, we needed to move swiftly to conduct the main elements of the draught out. and in this context, speed is safety. and thanks to the way in which we have managed our draw, no one, no one us forces or any forces have, have been lost. conducting our drop down differently would have certainly come with the increased risk of safety to our personnel. was the us president there? earlier i spoke with trey parsi, he's executive vice president at the quincy institute for responsible statecraft. he is an authority on geo politics from iran, to saudi arabia,
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to afghan estate. and i asked him if there is any positive news in this announcement, given that the tale bon is research in afghanistan. i think it's important to recognize that the color bon was researching and would be researching regardless as to whether the united states would be leaving or not. after 20 years, we have now people saying that the afghan government cannot stand alone for 6 months. well, after a 20 year investment and they can only hold out for 6 months, what does that tell us? it tells us that another year and other 2 years and other 20 years will not make a difference. and that is bringing the united states to a point in which it has to decide. does it want to continue to engage in an endless unwinnable war? or is it going to withdraw and recognize that that original objective of the feeding the archive there has been achieved and settle for that? yeah, the original objective, the mission of going into ref, ganna stand. the president said today was to rid the country of the terrorists who
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had hit the united states, but wasn't that mission accomplished in 2011 when there some have been lot was killed. i think in general had just been an objective to go ask, did atalla gone and unkind are there it would have been achieved much earlier, perhaps even earlier than 2011 months of the fact that beloved and was killed in pakistan. not enough cornerstone. i think this is a typical case of mission creek in which we were originally went in because of the attacking the united states and then is the worst into the nation building project counterintelligence counterinsurgency. and it's just been dragging on. this is part of the reason why the united states should be extremely selective when it comes to using force outside of its own borders and be extremely selective when it comes to the type of military interventions that we're seeing here. because once it is started, usually there are very, very few good options left and you will be forced to only choose between bad
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options. i heard one us will make her today say that the, this war would have turned out much differently. had there not been the invasion of iraq 2 years after the started the more in f ganna stand and this is congressman said that what happened is you had the us trying to focus on 2 words. neither of them got complete attention and you see that mission creep began, as you just said, is the failure in afghanistan. if you want to call that, does it have something to do with iraq? i'm not convinced by that because at the end of the day, even if the united states had not gone into iraq and clearly going into iraq did not help but had not gone into your walk. you would still have been a very difficult mission because nation building and i've gone, a son is not with united states eclipse to do. you can take a look at the roxy, how about the nation building when fair as well? the problem is that from the very beginning, the mission actually was limited to the feeding the coda. and then in more into
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something much, much bigger. had that not happened. we would be in a very different situation. the, the 1st question for the president from reporters today were, are you handing over afghanistan to the tele bond? we're the past few decades and have gained the stand where they worth it. what, what would be your answers? well, i think the premise of that question is quite incorrect. handing the cornerstone over to the tyler bon, presumes that the united states is in control of our honest united states is not in control of cornerstone and has not been in control canister. and that's been the problem in the very beginning. a lot of folks seems to have the impression that of cornerstone some way somehow is the 51 state of the united states. and now that by the ministration or whoever had been truck, would be handling it over to someone else. this was never denied estates. this was their country, and the u. s. was never in control of it. i think assumptions as such, has really made the conversation in the united states. much more difficult about
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what type of a rational choices you can choose between and moving forward. what, what will you tell the administration, what should we expect in the next year? and if can stand the government with a totally binding, of course, there's the role of pakistan and even the role of trying to consider i think it is essential that when the military mission is now and that the united states remains to engage diplomatically, try to help stabilize cornerstone, it's going to be very challenging. but one thing the united states can should do is to encourage the regional the neighboring states to really step up and their incentives to do so has now increased as a result of the united states leaving. for instance, if you take a look at what the iranians have been doing, in many ways the volunteers had shared interest with the united states. and that's cornerstone and opposed itala. but as long as the united states was enough cornerstone and was seen as a stretch bar, the barn is iranian,
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did not collaborate with the united states. and actually in many ways to undermine the united states, deliberately fearing that if they didn't, the united states would have greater bandwidth to attack iraq with united states not being present there. this dynamic changes and their opportunities for collaboration and diplomacy goes, but it takes initiative leadership and participation by the united states. so i think it's essential that just because the troops are back home does not mean that the diplomatic commission in any way shape or form should and in fact, it should be wrapped up. yeah, that's exactly what the president said earlier today to the policy. we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. the south africa, the former president, jacob zoom is behind bars tonight in the cover of darkness. last night he did what the country's highest court had ordered him to do. he turned himself in to the police. as he may had threatened to evade capture, since he was sentence last week on contempt charges for failing to appear before a panel investigating corruption allegations against him. starting
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a 15 month prison sentence, he may be eligible for parole after serving for months. now this is the 1st time a former president has been jailed in south africa, but it is not zoom as the 1st time behind bars. he spent time in prison as a freedom fighter during the arm struggle against apartheid. cutting it close to midnight deadline. the convoy of vehicles carried the former south african president, jacob xena on his way to hand himself over to authorities. the 79 year old is now in custody in his home province, beginning his 15 month sentence for contempt of court. on sunday is in a stress he wasn't afraid of jail time referencing his previous incarceration for his role in fighting south africa's races apartheid regime to remind them. and i'm not scared of doing of blowing to jail for my
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beliefs, it will not be for the 1st time i will be a prisoner of conscience. the former president who was in office for 9 years, has been at the center of corruption allegations surrounding his time in public life. the contempt of court charge came as a result of him refusing to appear at a corruption commission. he's called the process a political conspiracy but authorities have accused him of misappropriating funds and fraud, some of the charges date back 20 years. on monday, the constitutional court is due to consider an application by xena for the cancellation of his prison sentence springs. when he w christine, what is covering this story for? she joins me now from durban in south africa. good evening to you,
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christine. the events of the past 24 hours. just how much of a surprise have they been branch. nobody expected that. when that convoy raced out of the room as homesteads shortly before midnight on wednesday bass. what would follow? was the confirmation from his supposed people that that was in fact him going to hand himself over to the police better? because jeff days before after weekend on sunday and i was actually outside his home in the, in the problem when you told his supporters that he would not be doing that, that he didn't deserve to be in prison. and that he wouldn't be adding itself in. so it's for me, came as a huge surprise and i came down to the very last minute. it was a very long night or not. it's not i can get who is lou today kind of bring because it just wasn't payable. was going to happen. what we full where police a messing and approaching. i hear homestead and it appears mr. opted to head in.
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yeah, i mean we're seeing that video there of the convoy last night when he turned himself in and he turned himself in at night just before midnight. as you said, it was dark and not so easy to see. those crowds of supporters who had been promising violence, if mister zimmer were to go to jail. i mean, did you think that zoom used the cover of darkness, perhaps to avoid possible bloodshed? if that is what he did? a lot of people would be thanking him because that was the fear in this country. brent, that there was going to be bloodshed, were told that on sunday when people were gathered outside the home when he addressed the supporters, that as many as 100 fire on were in circulation among the forces that were gathered outside of his home. we heard that nice minutes because he was asked about why he didn't disperse with crowds because public gatherings are currently not now here in south africa. because of course, in 1900 restrictions that he said, what he did not want was some kind of an escalation of confrontation between police
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and the forces. because there was support for the menu that i spoke to was saying that they were willing to die in prison. he told them that they had formed the human shield that even if the police had tried to get to him, that they wouldn't be able to get through him a prescription that they would be violence that there would be an outbreak of violence that people would die in defense, the prison. so we saw members of the a and c, appealing to the president to instead ascii supported to refrain from finding they were on holding all sorts of weapons. i saw some of them carrying sticks, some of them even during the ship because they were ready for war as some have been in moving forward. can we say that there is any consensus among south africans regarding seamless fate and what should or shouldn't happen to him? the short answer is no brands, and i'll tell you that saw the people who supports him or they see him as being
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a victim of political persecution. why is he being prosecuted? they say that he is being prosecuted for defending the black south africa that he has been trying to break down the structure of wife monopoly, skeptical what that means is called africa. it's code essentially for the fact that basic rumor has been trying to re allocate this country well from the white minority to the majority. and they said that he is being persecuted from that people who, who see things differently say there is no evidence that mrs. ever has done that, that in fact, the corruption and his tenure during his have resulted in human robbing the code that stolen from this country club. the black majority in this country that he's stone and sanitation, basic services like water and health care. so depending on who you are in this country, you either see him or some kind of a hero or a villain branch. and that is the reason why there is no consensus as to what this
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is in the states should be. we've got some time and let me, i'm going to ask you about that. what do you make of zoom equating, his past going to prison as a freedom fighter against apartheid equating that with now going to prison for defying a court order in a post apartheid south africa. what went through your mind? but you heard him, you know, equate those to you. i mean, it's astonishing. i didn't miss through a party, but we certainly learned about what that was. and of course, when people like the tools, i mean you, we, we heard it in the report. this is somebody who helped bring about this country's liberation. so to invoke the words of a project to liken a democratic from africa to, to a party days really stuck out for a lot of people. and so you've heard of other people who would they, in the struggle coming out and saying that that is the wrong use of this country's history. but it really plays into this, into this narrative that,
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that zoom and his camp are putting out there that he is being prosecuted. he said that he is being detained without trial. and back to him is what needs to happen in a party. that's what happened. deposit a new calling himself a prisoner of crunches. of course, many felt africans do not by that, that argument, they do not by that nature. they say that mr. wilma is way he should be because he has defied the institutions of the very democracy that he has got about 30 seconds . christine, what does all of this tell us about the the rule of law in south africa tonight? well, people in this country who, who are happy about the debate of makia i celebrating what they say is the rule of law being supreme. this long been the view in this country that the political each enjoy and living community that the ordinary south african doesn't is know the corruption in this country. it has cost this country investment and it has cost people to have people in this country the most. and so people are seeing this from
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kind of a message to people and government that no more gone other days, no matter who you walk off off of corruption because people are tired of that people, especially as this graph commission has been going on. people have been hearing about the extent of government corruption, south africans off frustrated. they are angry and they see this as a victory for the country. they see this as a training that nobody is above the law. and they're hoping that that message gets through to everybody in government. a very interesting one, with tonight's reporting from south africa helping us put today's events and last night's events into context. christine, as always, thank you. the a controversial new law has now come into effect in hungary and it has put the country on a collision course with the european union. the law bands for trails of homosexuality or gender change in schools and on tv programs. for children. critics,
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including the european commission, say the wall discriminates against l, g, b, t. 2 people. european union is urging hungary to repeal the law. but budapest is refusing and insist that this is not about discrimination, but rather about protecting children. here's what european commission president ursula, the lions said today. this is because they stared homosexual law for homosexuality and gender reassignment on par with pornography just because it uses the protection of the children to which we are all committed as an excuse to merely discriminate against people because of their sexual orientation. yet, this law is disgraceful that it's translation on the strong words they are coming from brussels to talk about that i'm joined now by your endeavor there. he's program director for amnesty international in hungary. george me now from budapest. it's good to have you on the program, aaron. so the european commission president, they are saying that this law is
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a disgrace. let's move beyond words. what, what action do you expect to come from brussels? could they have think, i think the european commission should immediately start an infringement procedure against this low and the basically act strongly and united because of that they, that the best chance that the law will be repealed people. and how do you know we're organizations in g o as in hungary, were they able to lobby members of parliament against this legislation? which obviously would be standard procedure in a democracy. was that the case there in hunger ration express among our partners? we are also trying to lobby the opposition party, so out of the 6 up position parties, the current that hungry currently has 5 of them restrained to all today, didn't show up for there was, i'm watching the one pick one more thing. yes. so i'm not sure whether we can call
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it the successful of being, but we try do you know where this low is coming from? we've heard victor or by the prime minister saying that this is about protecting children. we've heard, while makers is saying that children are under threat from peta files, but that's not true. if we look at the statistics, we know that's not true. so where is this legislation? where is it coming from? it's a very similar legislation, legislation to this so called in famous russian gay propaganda. lo, which was adopted in 2013, basically to copy cash flow the same, the facts and with the same intention to stigmatize the order, the one that belle grove and to, to promote the fear and the intolerance. and one prime minister all about says the law is trying to protect children. that that's all i very seen play. this law
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actually puts children into, into harm and need to even a greater, greater danger. what is this law going to do to the lives of l, g, b, t, q, people in hungary it will further marginalize an already marginalized group. our fear is that the it will, it will lead to school bullying. it will lead to a see can have crime and to, to say the various it could lead very easily to suicide in the community around damage or with amnesty international. joining us tonight from budapest and we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. thank you. the member of the spanish government may have bitten off more than he can choose by calling for people to eat less meat in a country where that idea could easily be called bull. the reaction. well,
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it's been rather strong. the rift even runs through the cabinet spain, a paradise for meet lovers. the country's cuisine is famous for its hams and sausages . but the consumer affairs minister has sparked controversy by suggesting the spaniards should change their eating habits. capacity i said, because what would you think if i told you that excessive meat consumption harms both our health and also our planet? we can change our diet and improve the state of the planet. the minister noted the beef production in particular requires huge amounts of water and produces greenhouse gases responsible for global warming. some surveys have showed spaniards as europe's top carnivores consuming an average 98 kilograms of meter year. well above the average of 76. the suggestion to cut neat intake prompted the prime
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minister to way in from an official trip to let the way nivia estoppel me cause controversy is personal to me. as far as i'm concerned, there's nothing better that i'm perfectly done state interesting, by the way, convincing spaniards to change their meat loving ways may prove to be a hard so oh. and finally tonight, anyone planning a visit to london this summer and it is possible. they can now look forward to a new attraction for the 1st time, buckingham palace, the queen's residence, is opening its gardens to the public. previously, only guided tours were permitted, but now for a 16 pound admission fee. visitors control the grounds on their own. gorgeous, they're even allowed. i've been told to have a picnic a picnic in buckingham palace. sounds
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