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the culture correspondence scott ross for johns is now from the heart of berlin for more on the film. got you? you've seen it this documentary title courage. what do you take away from it? yeah, i mean, watching the film. it's kind of shocking because it's shot last summer during the, the 1st new wave of protest against the lucas shanker regime. and it really could've happened in another era. i mean, the things have changed so dramatically since then. the actors were portrayed in the film to which are here now in berlin. for the premier, they've had to flee the country. they were determined to stay in men's could keep protesting as lucca shank. oh, that's become completely impossible for them. so watching the movie makes you realize how dramatic the situation has become in bella. ruth, and how desperate the people there are for some change to happen, it's got what really stands out. there is how the lives of these 3 actors turned
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activists appear to, completely changed utterly utterly. i mean, i was able to speak to 2 of them today who were here in berlin for the premier of the film. and they both said that they were determined never to leave the country to stay with the firm to state and fight, but it's become utterly impossible to do so. and now they're putting all their hope on the international governments to, to, to fight and protest. lucas, encouraging say that is the now their only hope scott rocks for that. thank you very much. i'm returning to our top story and go live to call and southeast and southwestern england rather. where she said, really, it is a gathering for a social distance family photo. as somebody gets off to its official start. that family photo seems of just been thinking they're now being heading directly into the 1st session headlines, building back better from cove at 90. g 7 will be seeking strategies to energize
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the global economy. that's been left really by the panoramic the years who see seeing here, just making their way from the family photo that we just came to the confession that commit to sharing at least 1000000000 corona with a lower income contract. i still are all this. i'm not joining the studio by intern chief international editor richard walker. richard, just, yesterday we're talking about the us donation of a half a 1000000000 vaccines was quite substantial. now the g 7 apparently has doubled that now, but do you make of that? yeah, well, it sounds like a lot, isn't it? a 1000000000 doses of vaccines and of course it is a lot. but if you think about the scale of the challenge ahead to vaccinate the entire world, really, it's really just the starting point. bear in mind that with most of the vaccines,
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each individual person needs to dose, so you immediately have the number. so it's about 500000000 people getting vaccinated from these commitments that we've heard about here. really, what if need is more than 10000000000 doses. and if you look about how far the world has got in this challenge, it's really far a tool. so kofax, which is the international program that's being put together to get back out to poorer countries around the world that has only distributed $81000000.00 doses sofa . and when you look at the discrepancy between the rich world represented by those 7 leaders, we've seen just on the beach there in cornwall, in europe, 35 or so percent of people have had at least one dose of vaccine north america is 40 percent or so in asia, it's only 7 percent in africa. it's only just past 2 percent just in the last couple of days. a huge challenge ahead. so certainly a step in the right direction, but it will reg being criticized by some campaign. this is really just not enough
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that the g 7 has to be more ambitious. so campaign as has been asking for a listing of the patterns and of these vaccines that has also been criticized as sort of discouraging development. what do you make of this? yeah, well this is a, this is a debate that's been going on for some time, but it will, it's a philosophical debate. is the debates about how you structure incentives in a free market economy. supporters of the page, the new system would say, well, you have to incentivize private companies to do this research if they're not going to invest lots of money in research. if they think they're going to have to give away the product for free at the end of the day, especially when you do this kind of research, there's no guarantee that you're going to get an outcome. so there's a lot of kind of venture capital essentially going into this. the other side of the example of the argument is, this is a global pandemic. this is a once in a century event. it's one thing to have good theories about the market economy. when you've got potentially what we've seen, not as potentially in reality,
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millions of people dying around the world in the last year, the potential for millions more to keep dying than you know, theories about how the economy works well, very well. but isn't that more important? so this is a live debate, the g 70 is not really united, united on this g 7, i'm sure we'll get on talking about the, the rail priority that they have is to put on a show of unity in this sort of western democratic club. they're not united, the united states has been pushing the saying, look, we need to look at opening up what's called a peyton waiver around cobra. the vaccines manuel, call france is indicating the last couple of days that he's open to that. to see the rest of the g 7 so far not in particular, germany, germany is dead set against it says the opening up pavement is simply not this solution to the problem. the problem is manufacturing capacity is one thing to, to allow a company to access a payton, but they have to know how to manufacture it and you have various machinery as well . so yeah, it's a complex debate,
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not necessarily what we're going to see resolved today. you mentioned the us and the contribution of the u. s. what about relations between the u. s. and the rest of the g. g 7. they were at a pretty low point on the, on the trump. can we really expect this to change drastically now? well, i think we're already seeing it changing drastically, and this is really a big part of jo biden's trip over to europe in this week. you know, the g 7 is the 1st of 3 summits of essentially the rich democratic clubs of the why go west you knows are starting with g 7. he's going to brussels. next, he's going to be meeting nato. he's going to be at the european union summit and all of this is before then going to meet vladimir putin next wednesday. obviously no friend of the west. no friends, joe biden, at the moment. so i think, yeah, this is all part of putting on a show of unity of, you know, saying america is backwards being jo biden's mantra ever since taking office so
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that he can go into those talks with vladimir putin next week with the wind in his back that seat the americans have been using. why should stay here? we come back to you in a 2nd, but 1st, this is of course us presidents biden's 1st foreign trip since he took off his head of the trip. he made it very clear. he wants us to know that the front era is over and that a new chapter, the transit atlantic partnership is now beginning. the president has landed joe by non european soil for a week of diplomacy. his message, the trump years of neglecting the trans atlantic alliance, a well and truly over at every point along the way. we're going to make it clear that united states is back district important for biden. it goes to the heart of his belief about this era that we vented a battle of the systems between democracies like those here in europe and to talk receives like china and russia. biden says that the west must unite and show that
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it's got what it takes. democracy of the world are standing together to tackle the toughest challenges and the issues that matter most to our future that were committed. the lady was trans defending our values. so biden is come to europe, the 3 summits with democratic clubs. first, the g 7 in britain, that nato and the european union in brussels. before finally with russia, letting me biden's idea is that it's best to consult your friends before you confront your rival. veteran german diplomat falls going issue. that's a good plan. i think it is very smart. it is in terms of diplomatic of practice to meet with nato partners for and with you a part of this 1st before the the meeting with bloody may put it by wants to be
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able to show putin and indirect a china to the when the west is united, they can deliver in ways that they cannot thank you for he's an ounce plans to donate more cove and vaccines to poorer countries. and g 7 finance ministers of agreed a minimum rate of corporate tax to force global times pay that fish. so you can expect the g 7 to be a show of transatlantic unity. but how deep does that unity go when it comes to biden's? big idea of pushing back against the autocrat on china. europe has tied in with us sanctions over human rights abuses. but europe's economy is so dependent on china, but it's doubtful. it will be as tough as washington once and on russia, germany has refused to stop the controversial north stream to pipeline biden. seas that is a major mistake that will make your weaker, more dependent on russia. we're both going issue fears. if europe doesn't step on
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it risk feeding the narrative that the trans atlantic alliance isn't was, is there anything we can do to make sure that the next president will not be again, donald trump, or somebody like donald trump, who wishes to abandon europe. we want to be a good partner, another useless. so a lot rides on this week. if somebody is between friends and foes, the things that count both for the outside world and for the voters that cope ball bus. even the national editor, mr. walker, who is with me in the studio and they're basically said that after biden's move forward, back towards the old u. s. allies. the bowl is now in europe scored to but as you me yeah. well, essentially, what he was been say was, he's been saying of these interviews is that biden has almost been the president of
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europe streams since he came into office at the beginning of this year. ending that mulch was trump, is where, you know, of course the united states within the kind of domestic turmoil during those years . but trump was also heavy critic of american alliances essentially saying that the europeans was high. the freeloaders off the american tax professionally, germany, especially germany, saying, you know, why we even paying for the security of the europeans. they're rich countries. why can't they pay? he really kind of question the whole continentals of these alliances. now suddenly, joe biden is in the presidency. he's very much in the kind of classic trans atlantic mold of american presidents of the past. a while he's more focused on asia, you know, simply because of the times we're in than some of his previous s is still, he's a real believer in the transatlantic alliance, and he's been investing in what almost everything signal he could send to the peons
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that america is back so he rejoined the parish climate accord. he's re committed to diplomacy and dealing with the iran nuclear program. he even reversed donald trump's decision to reduce true numbers that american bases in germany and even said is going to increase true. so don't doubling double reversing. it and voltage issue as concern or the concern, i think also some of the united states is that europe is now going to get complacent some think, well, you know, knowing the president back to normal, we don't really need to pull our weights anymore. and on masses like, you know, defense spending, which would be them bare of american presidents going back a long time. but donald trump really heightened that the pressure is going to ease with bite and there. and you might, but they're going to go away. and you know what, what issues are saying is that, well, you know, if you back off on this now, then you may not have a problem with biting straight away. but in 2 or 3 years, you may find that the republicans when sweep in the mid terms in congress,
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and you have a trump to in the white house in a couple of years time. so he basically imploring the europeans to sort of think strategically about the relationship with the united states and investing in the alliance. they've opened up loads of debates in europe as well about how independent, how much should europe stand on. it's going to be, shouldn't really defend itself. and if it does defend itself, then that means making it actually more independent from american interest, which of the americans may not want. so there's an awful lot to pack here and yeah, this is maybe just the starting point. let's come back to do today's meeting. that one thing that stands out, it's michael's last dance, at least on the international dance floor. if you set the scene for us a bit what, what does that mean? and we're seeing a picture of the family photos that happened 10 minutes. we just think about how many of the faculty faces agular math. i tell you one telling thing the macros team
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was briefing the media yesterday and they were asked about, you know, how many of these so many. so she taken part in and they said, oh yeah, it's at least her 15th when you can't exactly remember how many of the summits you've taken parts and you know, you've been around for a long time. so, you know, germany is kind of waiting with baited breath for the absence of a new post map or era. you know, germany has been under this kind of magical comfort blanket for 16 years. but it's going to be a huge change on the international team as well. she just be, know if you'd like someone run biden, who cause his entire political career even longer, significantly longer than medicals. he hasn't had that continuity that she's had. she's been there for every single crisis that the world has seen over the last 15 years. so she will certainly be missed on this world stage as someone who you just know who you're dealing with. and yeah,
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but of course it does mean that at this stage, you know, she's a lame duck basically, you know, she doesn't really have the influence to start new projects in germany. you know, her last few months in office really about just trying to see through, you know, the, the corona bars pandemic, hoping that the autumn when she leaves office is not going to see another surgeon cases. she's not really in a position to start new initiatives and that's a bit of a problem in europe because also a manual. my call her counterpart in france. he also, he had an election approaching next year when he is going to run, but he has a real challenger in the face of my pen, the nationalist candidate. and you know, once medical is out of office, that's going to be the next question. what happens in france because, although there's likely to be quite a bit of continuity in germany, you know, there's not likely to be national lease take over here. but next year that potential prospects of the world is going to be on tent hooks. let's speak about
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the big powers that are absent at this meeting, which is notaries china and russia. the tone has changed. was russia recently biden a sentence stone, and the quite being, being quite, quite strong, really warning quite, quite strongly. and i would like to ask, you will germany also you thing get more pressure from their allies to take a tough stance towards russia? well, germany is under pressure to take it off. the stocks towards russia. hammons would say that, you know, they have moved into that position, you know, imposing sanctions on russia almost seems routine at this stage. but it's still, it's a deep he to see, to kind of believe in germany and the importance of maintaining at least a certain level of dialogue with the russians. and also this is project which we
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mentioned in the report that nord stream to this big gas pipeline connecting russia with germany. hugely controversial. germany has been under massive pressure to end construction of that from the trump administration, but also continuing into the bible ministration. but it's refused to do so. it said, you know, this is a commercial project. it's nearing completion is not really the business of the government to come to a commercial project that has all of the approval. so you need for it and just say we're stopping this now lifetime. so let's listen into the open statements of which prime minister both something genuinely needs to happen. because we need to make sure that we learn the lessons from the pandemic. we may need to make sure that we don't repeat some of the areas that we doubtless made in the course of the last 18 months or so. and we need to make sure that we now allow our
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economies to recover. and i think that they have the potential demands that very strongly. and there's all sorts of reasons for being optimistic, but it is vital that we don't repeat the mistake of the last great crisis last great economic recession in 2008, when the recovery was not uniform across all parts of society. and i think what's going wrong with this pandemic, what risks being a lasting scar is that i think that inequality is, may be entrenched. and we need to make sure that as weak recover we level up across our societies and we, we build that better. and i actually think that we have a huge opportunity to do that because as g 7, we are united in our, our vision for a cleaner,
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greener weld a solution to the problems of climate change. and in those ideas, in those technologies which were ruled addressing together, i think there are the, there is the potential to generate many, many millions of high wage, high skill jobs. and i think that is what the people of the, of our countries not want us to, to focus on. they want to, to be sure that we're beating the pandemic together and discussing how will never have a repeat of what we've seen. but will say that we're building back better together and, and building that greener and building that sarah and building that will equal. and ashleigh more and more gender neutral and that's a more feminine way. how about that above else? so those are some of the objectives that we have before us that campus day. thank
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you very, very much. i'm not going to ask the friends from the media very, very kindly to to leave us to our deliberations which by tradition, this is meant. this is meant to be a far side chat between the great democracies of the world. it turned in its turned into a gigantic media circus, in which we have to greet each other several times. but that was of course, the prime minister boys johnson, hosting the opening session of this year g 7 summit with me in the studio or international edison. mr. walker, which it both does list speaking without notes, he referred to the arrows of the past 18 months and that the economy is, must recover. is that sort of the, the top bit on the agenda than yeah, well,
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this is certainly a big part of the agenda is getting out of the pandemic on the one hand. so we've been talking about vaccines already. all of the countries that we see here are at a reasonably advanced stage of their vaccination programs and looking flexible to the rest of the well trying to get vaccines out for the rest of the world. but of course we've just, as we've just been saying, facing some criticism for not being potentially bold enough on that. and then the other part of the equation is what kind of an economic recovery is they going to be? and i think it was quite a thing for us to refer that to the aftermath of the economic prices. financial crisis around 2008. the fact good. the recovery off to that? well, there was a very slow recovery that, but there was also quite an unequal recovery while unemployment remained high in many places for a long time, particularly in parts of the european union. of course, the, you know, the euro crisis follow down from that. so trying to learn lessons from that, what we're already seeing on the economic front is that it is quite different from
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that because there was a more sudden sort of crash for, you know, what happened when locked down suddenly economic activity just rise to hold. and now we're seeing economic activity bouncing back so fast. that is even feeding inflation. so it's quite a dynamic situation. one that hasn't been seen for a long time. so the experience around the g 7 table is definitely going to come into play that you'd like mario drug. of course, the former president, the or p and central bank. he could be a central voice. there's somebody who really went through that crisis, you know, and even closer than anglo michael didn't herself. and then also talking about this being an opportunity for green investment. and this is something that we hear not just in the british, but also from the european union. this is a major idea from that and also from the bike ministration of trying to fuel the next stage of economic development in the west. but also around the world is something that's more sustainable than we've seen before. you just mentioning
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that johnson spoke about the lasting scholar scholars of inequality that have been exposed by the pound. yeah. and that can't be entrenched . how do you think that is going to go forward or into a communicate after the 7? yeah. well, it's a fact, isn't it? in the people who lose their jobs in situations like this. and we've seen this particularly in the united states, as of course, people who don't have employment protections. people who working in the hospitality industry in restaurants and bars and all of the places that will shut down sort of overnight. those are the people who have really suffered get making sure that they get back into employment is going to be the challenge. and i'm sure this will be reflected in the ultimate communicate, but i think you do start to see the difference to some extent in the economic systems between the united states and europe. because in europe,
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around the european union. and also in the united kingdom, the system that was implemented 1st during the financial crisis to follow was very widespread. so the actual job losses in the u compared to in the united states were not nearly as severe. so what you'll see within the g 7 is each different country having slightly different reactions and different stage and sort of fall out of the economic crisis. there's not necessarily something that the g 7 can really in detail come up to joint conclusions on but what they will certainly all be saying is this sort of mood music that they don't want to lead to long time in trenches. and of course, but there are long term economic development, which have been accelerated by the crisis. we've seen you that the, the likes of amazon digital retail has had a booth like it didn't never. or is everyone going to go back to buying it as much in the offline world change to behavioral hadn't changed?
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so yeah, i mean, they can talk about this, but i'm not sure that any of these leaders in the position to resist the kind of economic forces that are driving that let's go briefly, let's a quick look into the future. biden is going to travel to geneva. well, we meet very me put in there. you've been a washington correspondents so you know roughly about how this could play out. what are we expecting there? well, i was, i to punch in a briefing yesterday with the u. s. think tank looking ahead to this meeting and i can tell you that it was a pretty pessimistic briefing. there are low expectations. i think the best that people can hope for is trying to stabilize the relationship and to avoid any situation where the 2 sides could end up uncomfortable. okay. thank you very much.
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the the news is database news lines from the n t. 7 leaders pledge 1000000000 code 19 vaccine doses for poor countries at the summit in england. well, discuss the plan to vaccinate the whole world by the end of next year. german chancellor, i'm going to michael says it's up to g 7. countries to show the world then not just thinking of themselves.

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