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who's behind the. brand new surgery new mutants stuart's may 3rd on d. w. . this is do w. news live from berlin commemorating the dead armenian remembers the massacre of his people under turkish ottoman rule as u.s. president joe biden anchors ankara by recognizing the atrocity as genocide also coming up india's hospitals collapse under the weight of a colossal 2nd wave of corona virus infections the capital delhi is counting one
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poll with related deaths every 5 minutes as people struggle to find help. a warm welcome to our program i'm married i haven't seen many historians regarded as the 1st genocide of the 20th century and now u.s. president joe biden has formally recognized the massacre of hundreds of thousands of armenians over a century ago as a genocide in a statement biden said he sees armenians pain and affirms their history his recognition comes as thousands of people in armenia as capital yerevan commemorate the killings deportations and forced marches which began in the year in 1915. marching forward to look back on mean you know officials who led the may. in
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commemorating the horrors of the past the procession at this hilltop memorial in the capital yet every one included prime minister nicole passion yann. members of the public to streamed in to honor the dead. yeah there when i was ill at the station. i came here to show my respect to the soldiers to ship with it to my family all my god that's the horde to my country. i love armenia and genocide should be recognized regardless of any circumstances. that would encourage me to dock answer. in 1915 a 1000000 armenians were brutally murdered by autumn and turks many more were deported and sent on death marches into the syrian desert. armenians have long campaigned for crimes against their people to be recognized
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internationally as genocide. turkey argues that there was no systematic attempt to wipe out all minions and no such order from the ottoman authorities. but nearly 30 countries have recognized the atrocities as genocide. germany's parliament voted to adopt the internet a 16 that resolution sparked an angry reaction in turkey president the one saying germany should be the last nation on earth to accuse others of genocide. on little side idjit many armenians would consider the diplomatic spat over terminology a distraction from the memory of atrocities of more than a century ago that haunt their nation to this day. true or a let's bring indeed up is correspondent in washington d.c. since i was. in the so how significant is joe biden statement in
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which he calls the massacre of armenians during the ottoman era a genocide. this is pretty significant you know for decades now u.s. presidents have been extremely careful about the language that they use when talking about the killings of armenians to avoid using the word genocide out of fear of angering turkey which is seen as an important partner a nato ally of course and the last president to use the word genocide was actually ronald reagan in 1901 and since then we've seen the armenian community here the diaspora lobby u.s. presidents they have promised on the campaign trail to deem this a genocide but once they've entered the white house they have not done so so president biden promised last year himself on the campaign trial trail rather to make this part of his agenda he has followed through and in doing so has really broken with his predecessors now see me what did bring president biden to break with his present predecessors as you said i mean many of them had also made
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these kinds of promises but did not follow through when they were in the white house what's different this time. what i think you have to understand the context in which this is all taking place you know ties between the u.s. and turkey right now are really strained in the u.s. is not very happy that turkey purchased a russian missile systems that something that triggered sanctions actually it is not happy about turkey's role in the region its role in libya and syria it is also a not happy about what it sees as a backsliding on democracy and human rights and turkey so certainly these disagreements seem to have bolstered president biden into making this announcement and i should say there seems to be a certain sense among administration officials that because ties are so bad they are ready and willing to take any blowback that might come from ancora. see me soon misconduct reporting for us from washington thank you.
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and now let's get the view from turkey and for that i'm joined by our correspondent in istanbul dorian jones hello to you dorian so there has already been a reaction from ankara to the u.s. statement referring to a genocide in armenia what is the turkish government saying. scandalous in his will to turkish foreign ministry said in a statement saying this is inflicted deep wounds to turkish u.s. relations while the president of egypt type one and a message to the istanbul armenian patriarca said that this issue should be resolved by historians and shouldn't be allowed to be exploited by 3rd party political opportunists while the turkish foreign minister measured in a tweet said that turkey does need any lectures and on its history and said that this was a great. injustice and. peace in the country so
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a lot of anger also turkey's or main opposition parties have also fallen into line with the government with the notable exception of the shakes t.p. which does recognize the armenian genocide so there's a great deal of anger in the country and why there is not only a feeling of of injustice historically but also the fear that the growing movement of recognizing armenian genocide could open up turkey to claims of international reparations from relatives of those killed but despite the high stakes there's been no talk of retaliation from uncle no calls the new reports of recalling tuckshop bassett out back to turkey or even restricting the use of a key military air base of in july which is used by the americans and it does appear that turkey wants to look beyond this crisis because it is aware the relations are rock bottom with the u.s. and he's looking to rebuild those relations and present one has agreed apparently to meet with president biden in june on the sidelines on the nato summit all right doreen jones reporting from istanbul thank you so much.
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let's turn our attention to india now where hospitals are launching desperate appeals for help as the health system crumbles corona virus infection rates in the country continue to break global records the government has given top priority to the transports of life saving oxygen but hospitals are so overwhelmed that many people can't even get inside the situation is particularly dire in the capital delhi where oxygen supplies are running out fast. fighting for breath these patients outside a covert 1000 hospital in delhi are among the fortunate ones. the clinic is overwhelmed and lacks 3 beds but at least it still has oxygen to administer to the most gravely ill among a steady flow of new arrivals. decision right down here is really very worst critical and of all the full control. just off is really cooperative but due to
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the old girl running also though meanwhile on the walking casualty it is different they're deploying to equal treatment to all division and for the next 5 years if i get your divisions right and. these scenes are no exception across the country hospitals are full and turning stricken patients away many are critically low on oxygen supplies as india 2nd wave sets global records for new daily infections social media are flooded with stories of people desperately trying to secure oxygen for loved ones. that organize that day out the regret that i. didn't write a paragraph or what i do to speed up deliveries indian railways has launched an oxygen express service ferrying supplies directly from production plants like a beacon of hope the 1st train arrives in maharashtra one of the hardest hit states where more than 62000 people have lost their lives to the virus at. delhi hospital
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a group of men heaved their brother out of a rickshaw they tried to get him admitted earlier but were sent home now they learned it's too late to save him. the father of 5 is dead on arrival since he wasn't admitted to the hospital or taken to its mark his death is unlikely to be counted in a city swiftly rising official toll. and joining us now from the indian capital is did delhi bureau chief. i mean does so many heart wrenching stories coming from across india i'd like to ask you what is it like for you personally living in delhi right now amid this relentless 2nd wave. you know to be honest it's not easy delhi is the hardest hit city in the country at the movement i have gone weeks who tested positive or had family members friends and neighbors who tested positive last night i lost
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a cousin who didn't get enough oxygen and he passed away a few honestly to a friend's mother honestly this is not just my story everybody i know has had some kind of story of this kind to share and then you keep hearing these stories of hospitals begging for oxygen sending out a suicide messages and we saw some of those incidents in your report where you see such desperation people begging and gossipy it's very difficult to see i moved. in deeds of now me to we did at least see that the 1st trains delivering oxygen are arriving is there some hope that conditions could get better soon. will try missionary in them or the hand a high level meeting today to discuss ways to make. nice at every retreat was one real day got them to look to mobilize the indian air force
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a consignment of oxygen it was air lifted from single and brought to india another consignment is due to come to the united arab emirates built oxygen car doors clocks in coming by road from different parts of the country especially eastern india which has a silk use of oxygen and just to give them a way to come fast and he suggests nation that they need to and then get 23 my oxygen generating plants which have been end if tip from germany and did you get a ride in jail within the weeks ahead is on the weak but distribution is still a problem and the industry grid structure bickering who should get how much and why and people feel less the last thing we need in the midst of a 2nd rate in india. delhi bureau chief thank you for your reporting and please do stay safe now to some of the other stories making news this hour navy officials in indonesia say they found items from a submarine that went missing last wednesday crushing hopes of finding over 50
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sailors on board alive the submarine disappeared off the island of bali indonesia as navy has now officially declared the sub a sunken vessel russia has deployed navy warships to the black sea off the disputed crimean peninsula it says it will block vessels belonging to foreign governments from sailing through the strategic area ukraine the e.u. and nato save the restrictions contravene international maritime law. on the bundestag of byron munich travel to mines on saturday now i know when what seal the league championship but the hosts have come out fighting in recent weeks as they bid to avoid relegation and they served up a shock here that put byron's title champagne on ice. when his league of fans had seen this movie before byron the main feature. of the star turn another title would be inevitable happy ending. points were cast as the fall guy but they hadn't read
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the script a 6 game unbeaten run has breathed new life into their ability to speak with a geisha and and they showed their renewed confidence when you're not on work hard you could vantage of and kind of touristic the generous goalkeeping from manuel neuer to put them one no up after just 3 minutes. and they weren't finished there. was a. drop in price on scored on 37 minutes to double binds his lead. the battle scarred hosts went into the break to know up against by on for the 2nd time this season last time they shipped 5 without reply in the 2nd half but this time they held firm propelling bines onslaught as the champions threw on attack after attack. was the man foiled this time. he did grab his usual goal 4 minutes into injury time as he posed on alexander error to make it 36 league goals for the season an inch closer to record but it
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came too late for biron to turn things around and. they must wait a little bit longer to celebrate a 9th street title but the day belonged to meit's they celebrated as if they'd already avoided the drop coach bill stenson will be delighted to have dealt their relegation rivals a huge psychological blow. you're up to date now on the news omarion haven't seen thanks for watching. people in trucks injured when trying to flee the city center more and more refugees are being turned away mum islamists please pretty please look at this demonstrators lucky police extreme grandmothers.
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lists the ultra more than 300000000 people are seeking. the us come up because no one should have to sleep. plug make up your own mind the mother w.'s. made for mines. the ticket. the countryside of the north eastern congo is beautiful and the soil is rich and fertile and yet the people here live in poverty and constant fear of attack by armed militias over 120 such groups have been operating for more than 2 decades on the territory of the democratic republic of the congo along its northern borders to
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south sudan uganda and rwanda neither the government nor tens of thousands of un peacekeepers have been able to stop them and the people suffering inevitably leads to more suffering as victims join one rebel group or the other sort of they killed my father. they killed everyone in my family. that's the only reason i became a fighter. a woman grieves for her murdered child an all too common side in the north eastern congo the militias killed around 2000 people here in 2020 alone the worst of them called themselves the allied democratic forces or a.d.f. their islam ist rebels who have been terrorizing the local population for some 30
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years. of us. they kill people with bullets. they kill people with machetes. they killed my brother with machetes. the islamists attack every few days often under cover of darkness they leave devastation behind burned down houses and beheaded corpses the local people feel like the congolese army and the un peacekeepers have abandoned them. we joined up with the un patro. in beni one of the trouble spots. attacks by the a.t.f. on the civilian population here have been on the increase in recent months. the u.n. patrol checks up on a clinic in maine it's been a frequent target of a.t.f.
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attacks in bouzouki wolf is the clinic's director wife of the militia comes here and massacres people if you saw the sheer hatred that drives the killing they chop heads off and you find the brains all around and chopped off feet that leaves you terrified and traumatized. but once the islamists tried to abduct 4 of his nurses. that they took them hostage in the waiting area when the people there realized it was the a.t.f. they were scared but then the militia said nobody would die it wasn't a day for killing. many in the area live in fear you and soldier was he said was x knows the clinic and the people who work there very well. as you can see other nothing that cannot read in order. to question and they are told and identified they are the ones that are targeted to be here this transfer in the country where
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they have to dress like everybody else. the constant threat level keeps the clinic closed all but a few hours a day many patients are left without treatment. and they struggle with who they cannot go in particular going from the grip of stay at home they cannot move children are going to go to school. so far the u.n. force has failed to establish and maintain security often enough the more than 18000 troops from nearly 50 nations can hardly even get themselves coordinated many of them are in un to quickly train. or at least not trained with the relevant skills the local villagers aggravate the problems with often unjust accusations that the un troops are a pack of thieves only concerned with their own safety and many of the congolese no longer put any hopes in the un troops at all. and the local people too often find themselves caught between france when their daughters and sons actually join the
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a.d.f. so the parents end up cooperating with the rebels supplying them food for example in return they're left in peace but if they refuse they may be killed and you know sometimes we're content sometimes we're afraid. the militias can show up any time they've become part of our daily lives that's. most of the local people are afraid to appear before the camera one man who didn't want to say his name gives vent to his frustration. the government should help or the international community should help our government with the situation but there are so many people have suffered the a.t.f. got to be finished. in the meantime the a.t.f. keeps on murdering as soon as the cameras off many people here say the soldiers come too late only once the attacks over and people are already dead we meet jonny boom only one of you a local representative who's been studying the a.d.f.
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for years in his view the u.n. mission has not achieved its goal very much in. the quantities here really ought to be secured according to my research as many as 4500 people have been killed right under the un forces knows it and what's their job again to protect the civilian population but more are getting killed every day. the a.d.f. was founded as an islamist group in uganda in the early 1990 s. experts have estimated their current strength and a few 100 fighters they're seen as excepting only cruel and intent on establishing islamic sharia law in the territory they control. they want to create a space a gray area where the state has no authority. they intend to control this area and exploit it. it's what they call. the islamic state of central africa the caliphate of central africa they've already set it up. this state is already up
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and running. in march 2021 the united states designated the a.d.f. a terrorist organization with ties to the islamic state but some observers doubt the 2 groups maintain any direct contact besides the a.d.f. over 120 other militias are active in the eastern congo after the 1994 genocide in neighboring rwanda some hutu militias fled to the congo and kept on killing that prompted the formation of armed groups originally for purposes of self-defense they do not make it easy to contact them to do so we had to leave the area under central government control half way their militia fighters meet up to lead us to one of their bases among them is my. she joined the militia about 20 years ago after an armed group massacred her family she was forced to watch as the men killed her
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parents with machetes then 6 of the men raped her she was only 15 years old at the time. i felt defeated my life had defeated me. i saw what they had done to me and how they had murdered my family. i couldn't keep living my life the way i had. so i decided to become a fighter and drive them out. that the whole cause it when a former teacher came to her village to recruit young people for a new militia she joined him and many of its members have experienced similar horrors it is in essence a militia of traumatized and emotionally scarred people. they killed my father. they killed everyone in my family. that's the only reason i became a fighter. her own community cast her because she'd been raped too great was the stigma the militia offered her
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a chance to take revenge and to survive they control around 20 villages in the region protecting the inhabitants who in return keep them supplied with food it's a simple trade security for food but we got the impression it wasn't always a voluntary arrangement. didn't speak openly until we moved some distance from the others. i think i've heard that others are fleeing the group but how could i run away i have nobody to help me i don't own any land i don't have anyone who could help me build a new life. now she places all her hopes on her children her hope that one day they'll have a choice. with the blessings of god i might at least arrange for them to get an education. if they are blessed at least that. i myself will never be able to do any other job. i can't help them by myself.
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hardly any other region has suffered atrocities by the militias as badly as the congo z. turi province we go on the road with the norwegian aid organization over a distance of just 60 kilometers we pass through about 20 checkpoints of various rebel groups as well as the congolese military. by the side of the road a few are carrying guns though concealing them often they ask for money as they are doing here but a few words convince them to wait for another day. 'd to draw draw it is a camp for internally displaced people it's one of many in the congo about 5 and a half 1000000 of the country's $105000000.00 people are displaced more than
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anywhere else in africa logo joel row barely escaped her village when a militia attacked it she was on the run with her children when she realized her daughter was missing. oh i decided to go back to find and save her but i was convinced she was still alive but unfortunately she was already dead. i was so sad just devastated when i walked past them they shot at me i had no idea if i'd survive i gradually lost all my strength i heaved and was breathing harder and harder than i slipped into some bush i didn't really have any hope anymore i was sure i was going to die. she survived but her 4 year old daughter was murdered. as soon as the hospital released her she gathered her other 5 children and fled to
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this camp. even if food water and medical care are in short supply at least they are safe here. to kenya. many people here have stories like to tell they live in desperation and resignation the trauma runs deep. and like. although they don't have the money to send them to school they still put their hope in their children and so another generation is growing up without education as easy potential recruits for the militias.
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