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federal communications commission chair nominee. she would be the first woman to serve in this capacity and the committee will take up other nominations including commissioner of the federal trade commission. then a virtual meeting of the house appropriations subcommittee to discuss the u.s. role in global covid vaccine equity. watch this week on the c-span networks or you can watch our full coverage on c-span now, our new mobile video app and head over to www.c-span.org for scheduling information or to stream video live or on-demand anytime. c-span, your unfiltered view of government. >> coming up this morning, lloyd smucker on president biden's "build back better agenda" and upcoming fiscal deadlines.
then, lois frankel talks about covid-19 relief legislation. and jeff mower of s&p global platts on gas price hikes and the u.s. oil supplies. "washington journal" is next. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2021] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy visit ncicap.org] ♪ host: good morning. it is tuesday, 11-16. the senate returns at 10:00 a.m. and it was yesterday at the white house where president biden signed the $1.2 billion bipartisanship bill into law. and both the president as well as members of congress stressed the importance of bipartisanship when it comes to tackling big issues in washington. and that's where we'll begin on "washington journal" this morning we want to know if
you're seeing bipartisanship in washington and does it matter 20 you? if it does matter to you, 202-748-8000 is the number to call. if it doesn't, 202-748-8001. and the lines for those who aren't sure, 202-748-8002. you can also send us a text message this morning. that number, 202-748-8003. if you do, please include your name and where you're from. otherwise, catch up with us on social media, on twitter.com/cspanwj, on facebook.com/cspan. and a very good tuesday morning to you. you can go ahead and start calling in now as we show you some of the president's remarks from yesterday at that signing ceremony. president biden: i want you to know we hear you and we see you. democrats and republicans can come together and deliver results. we can do this.
we can deliver real results for real people. we see in ways that really mattered. each and every day, to each person out there. and we're taking a monumental step forward to build back better as a nation. host: president biden just before signing that bipartisan infrastructure bill into law yesterday. here's the headline from the associated press. biden signs that $1 trillion infrastructure deal with a bipartisan crowd. the signing included governors and mayors of both parties and labor and business
leaders and including to nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. the guest list included republicans such as bill cassidy, susan collins, tom reid, don young, and larry hoag -- hogue. hogan.
more from yesterday's signing ceremony. this is republican senator from ohio, rob portman. >> this bipartisanship -- bipartisan support for this bill makes sense for our stichs but -- sandwiches but the approach should be the -- should be the norm, not the exception. the american people know despite our difference, we should be able to figure it out and work together to solve
big problems. we can start by recognizing that finding common ground to advance the interests of the american people should be rewarded, not attacked.
[applause] >> in a morning, you're going to sign this bill. you and i will disagree on the tax and spending and the other priority you have. the reconciliation bill. but i think we can both agree that this infrastructure investment shouldn't be a one-time bipartisan accomplishment. this should be the beginning of a renewed effort, to work together on big issues facing our country. host: republican senator rob part-man of ohio yesterday from the white house. we're talking about bipartisanship this morning, asking if it matters for you. rob portman, talking about that other priority of president biden, that the build back better act, social spending bill
that democrats are attempting to move through the budget reconciliation process that allows them to avoid any republican votes in the senate to overcome the filibuster threshold. we are expecting a vote in the house this week on the build back better act. after the signing of that bipartisan infrastructure bill, does bipartisanship matter to you? and are you seeing it in washington? joe, sun city, california, that line for those who say no. good morning. caller: no, it doesn't matter to me. because the media is always going to serve that's offensive team. the last while the democrats serves the defensive team in the last. so that's what the american people are struggled. that's how corrupt we are today. and that's the truth for you. so be warned. if you want to deny it, you just deny it. reality. but they have their own agenda.
and they're anti-judeo christian values and they're the enemy of this country, generally speaking. host: that's joe in california. this is david, detroit, michigan, that line for those who say yes, backups don't matter. caller: good morning, joe and to "washington journal" fans, listeners and to my fellow citizen from california who preceded me and all that minutia. let me just say this. this should matter. bipartisan should matter. but let me say this to all the joes out there who are railing against the build back better act and was going to take -- over the next 10 years. let me just say this and then i'll get off the phone. invariably, when i say big government projects, like i live in michigan. so one of the big hornies --
honorees from north michigan to florida to i-75, and then when i see these big projects jobs, all these men making really good money, drive the yellow tier and the caterpillar trucks and doing all the works, i would say 99% are white men. ok? and they're making good money. and i just so happen to be -- i have an avenue camper and when i go camping, i see these white men pull in with their big 1500 or their ford 150's with their big, you know, fancy fifth wheel trucks these are the same white guys that work on those projects. so i don't understand what is the angst. because they're going to get the jobs. they're going to get the jobs before white women, before black men, before black women. and i don't understand what their problem is. they're going to benefit. if anybody's going to benefit, it's going to be white men.
host: that's david in michigan. this question that we're asking. does bipartisanship matter to you? i'm seeing your comments from facebook. giorgio saying yes it is the only way award. bipartisanship means that congress members are doing their jobs to work with all sectors of the u.s. and not just working with their screeching base. unfortunately, the media has made it an insult for decades. bonnie says yes. at least yesterday was a very good day that gave me hope that the human race will grow and realizes that we need each other. we can all have a healthy, happy life and preserve this beautiful planet. rebecca says it can get done without bipartisanship and lacking in overwhelming majority, neither side can do that much. mike, on facebook saying whenever something is bipartisan, it's usually bad. more money for the war machine and national security state and corporate welfare and giveaways to the rich.
lou saying never bipartisanship when principles are sacrificed and the left has no principles to even trade. it wasn't always like that prior to obama, says lou. go back and look and find all the democrats who talked like to republicans back then now, they're proven shape shifters and hypocrite. and christine on facebook saying it doesn't matter when it involves dealing with obstructionist republicans. the comments across the spectrum from social media, we're especially looking for your phone calls this morning. on phone lines, split up pretty simply, yes, it does matter, no, it doesn't matter, if you're not sure. thomas, delray beach, florida, says bipartisanship does married. -- matter. caller: hi. thank you very much for taking my call. just a very quick note first, though. the guy who says it is only the white men who are going to benefit from these stimulus packages, that's actually the opposite of what's true. in fact, under his restaurant release bill, white men were
specifically ex included from the -- excluded from the bell. and to me, yes, i do think it matters. it is important. i have both voted for and worked for republicans and democrats. my 2020 ballot had both democrat and republican votes so i think it's very important to work together overall, towards the end. because if you're fighting against each other, you're only going to hurt each other. now that said, what also matters to me is honesty. and while i do think trump deserves a lot of criticism, i find it very hit krill. right now -- hypocritical right now when just the democrats not trying to to overturn the election would be russia collusion.
host: in michigan. for those who say no. caller: good morning. it doesn't make a difference to me because it makes no difference. if there's a midterm election, so we can control when. and it's the same old her go round with the same old players all the time. he can't even come through with one single promise that he campaigned on. guy's a pathological liar. host: on your prediction of republicans winning in the midterms in 2022, how many seats do you see them picking up? how big of a wave do you think it's going to be in the house? caller: enough to obstruct any more policy. it's just a game. the lobbyist are -- there's three lobbyist for each
congressmen. please, give me a break. this country is done. it's finished. host: that's todd in michigan this morning. a chart from the "wall street journal" this morning just taking a look at presidential losses in midterm elections you can see that midterms overall have not been very good to the sitting president. pumpkin -- president trump in 2018 moving 40 seats in the midterm election. president obama losing 13 seats in 2014. 63 seats in his first midterm election. george w. bush, 30 seats lost. a gain of eight seats for his party in the 2002 midterm elections, following the 9/11 terror attacks. president clinton saw gains in his second midterm election of just five seats. but president clinic lost 5 -- clinton lost 52 seats.
talking about bipartisanship this morning. conversations with you, our viewers about whether it matter, did it ever matter? are you seeing it in washington? james, in harvey, louisiana. you're not sure. caller: good morning, paul. i like to say i'm not sure if bipartisan matters. the thing that should matter more, weathering this consent of everybody winning or losing, knowing -- in sports analogies and who wins and who loses. the thing is, i think whether you're a communist or socialist or democrat, republican, whatever, that's your right to have that. but we should all be interested in watch's best for our country. and i don't think our elected officials are doing that anymore. i think we, the people, i think
we electing people to be on our team and our team is not america. and so i'm a little worried. i don't really care what your body affiliation is. as long as you are there to represent the goals of our execution -- institution -- institution and the people there that have their needs and hopefully, we have some common needs that we can coalesce around. host: that's james in louisiana. we mentioned bipartisan group of members, congress speaking at that signing ceremony for the so-called bipartisan infrastructure plan.
it was sinema who has become focused in the build back better act for social spending plan for her opposition to some of the provisions that her party have proposed but she spoke yesterday at the signing ceremony for the infrastructure bill. this is what she had to say. >> how many times have we heard that bipartisanship isn't possible anymore? or that important policy can only happen on a party line? our legislation proves the opposite. and the senator who is negotiate this legislation hoe how to get things done. the senators in our group of 10 effectively represented the needs of the regions we represent. senator cassidy in the deep south, senator warner in the mid atlantic. senator manchin in appalachia. and senators romney and tester in the west. and in the northeast and alaska, each with unique needs were ably represented by senators sheheen, collins and measure continuous i
can, the wonder women of our group, always focused on the practical outcome. [applause] senator rob portman whose knowledge is match only by hid steadfast commitment to delivering on this priority for america. delivering this legislation for the american people, this is what it looks like when elective leaders set out differences, shut out the noise and focus on the issues that matter most to american citizens. host: that was senator sinema in the white house. 2/3 of americans say they want their member of congress to compromise to get things done. the question that they ask if
you had to choose, would you rather have your member of congress compromise to get things done or stoic their principles no matter what? the purple on this chart, the number of those who said compromise. 39% want their members to compromise to get things done. 21% said stick to principles. republicans, 44% say they want their members to compromise but 56% a majority there of republicans saying they would prefer their member of congress to stick their principles no matter what. rhonda in tulsa, california, you're nixon. -- next. caller: i am not sure because i'm so disappointed with pour representatives senate and the
white house, not paying attention to what is going on. i'm here in california. our gas prices are almost $5. when you go into several stores now, you see that the shelves are becoming empty due to the crisis of the ships waiting onshore to come in and foods not being delivered. i'm very dissatisfied. i've always voted democrat. i voted for biden and i vote for kamala. and when you look at the headlines you see now that cameras harris is having -- kamala harris is having some infighting and is in a stalemate position as to they don't know ha do with the vice president. she seems often that she backpedals or it seems that she speaks around in circles about the issues that are directed
toward her and what our president is doing. i at this point and i feel that i will not be voting for biden again. i will not. and for the last few days, i've been saying to my family, i regret, i truly regret that i gave him my vote. i hope this changes soon because we are -- the people, we're not doing well and i feel like we're voiceless. and the definition of bipartisan, i love the caller from louisiana. he said it perfectly, that there shouldn't be us against you or we won or we didn't win this. it's about getting what needs to be done for the people. thank you, "washington journal." thank you for taking my call. host: rhonda, to what you referenced those reports about the vice president's unhappiness in her role brought up to the
white house press secretary enough that she responded to it. this is the headline from the washington times today. the white house skips introduction at the signing event. sake -- psaki rejects reports. there's been a lot of negative reports and they don't reflect our views. jen psaki, voted in that sorry in the "washington times." leon is in louisiana. you say bipartisanship still matters. caller: yes, sir. good morning. my name is leon and i served 34 years in the military. and i look at this thing as when we talk about bipartisan. they're just at the macro level
of our politicians. since i've come back home and i've take a look at the microin our homes, and our families, there's no -- there's lack of bipartisan problem solving even in our homes. it's my way or the highway. we have to problem solve. we have to see the other side of the argument and come to solutions. problem solving isn't -- if i don't get my way in totality, then you're wrong. president lincoln said a house
divided against itself cannot stay. the problem is not you the problem, i'm the problem. america has the problem. we need to bring our best minds together and do this within the economical framework as they say in terms of the definition of economics is the allocation of limited resources and world of unlimited warrants. host: that's leon in north carolina. we mentioned the 13 republicans in the house that voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill that was signed into law yesterday. and we mentioned on this program the blowback that those 13 members have received since casting that vote earlier this month, remember, it did take republican votes to get that bill over the finish line in the house. because enough democrats stepped away from that bill at the end and so it needed some republican
votes to finely pass in the house. one of the republicans who was part of that 13 was fred upton, republican of michigan. this story from last week after the vote. the congressman from michigan received multiple death threats in the days since he voted for that infrastructure deal with the overwhelming majority of the calls coming outside of the congressman's district. the congressman playing one of those calls for the "washington post." you're a inning piece of traitor, i hope you die. the man hopes upton's family and his entire staff die. the upton spokesman there, criteriaing the phone calls and the congressman talked about it as well. they tweeted the phone numbers
who voted in favor of that bill and that is just within of the stories. dave in new york saying it doesn't matter. caller: hi. thank you for c-span. i'm very angry as to what's happened with this bill. started out at $3 trillion. now half trillion and was watered down and water down by joe manchin and sinema and i understand it's very, very close in the senate. but pelosi and schumer and manchin and sinema, those are the people who were there for the signing of this bill. a much, much smaller. brought down to the lowest it could be. manchin is a self-interested corrupt republican who calls himself a democrat. and he's worried about capital there, who was there at the
signing. host: you mind if i ask your party affiliation? caller: i don't have one, really. i vote democratic. that's all i can do you know, here in manhattan. 73 years old. born on the same day as bernie sanders seven years later. and i'm very angry. i'm an a.o.c. democrat. bowers. those are the ones that didn't vote for the bill. pelosi sold them out completely to the lowest common denominator and that's why i don't think that bipartisanship is working. not for me, at least. because this bill would have been the largest bill since the great depression to help americans. so i'm tired of this. and i think we need a new party. and i think the question should be should we have tripower play? -- tri-parent shawnship? that's what i think.
i know we need a united trump against -- front against trump. but bipartisanship has not worked with me. host: ray, elizabeth city, north carolina. good morning. caller: hello. yes. and thank you for taking my call. i totally agree with the veteran caller on earlier about bipartisanship. it's very important. i do agree it matters much because the bottom line is what happens in washington affects everyone in this country. there are issues that does not matter if you're a republican or
a democrat. there are other issues like border security, national defense, lowering prices and there's a lot of talk about -- of trump being a problem. no, trump's not the problem. the problem is it's issues that are oppressing this nation. and a lot of them go way back before trump. and when you look at these issues that arias -- arise above republicans and democrats and you tackle them, that sends a message of unity. host: that's ray in atlanta braves city -- elizabeth city, north carolina. chris saying bipartisanship means there are only two viewpoints to a circumstance quite frankly most of the time, these bills require more than a yes or no option. safe to saying bipartisanship means little to me. the only thing that counts is
constitutional legislation that works for all americans instead of buying votes or pandering to population segments with empty promise. bill, it does matter. the respondents here on this post, about 80% will say yes. but the other side just won't cooperate. and this is not really. they should work best for the people that they represent. and bipartisanship matter when it hurts america and hurts our kids. the republican traitor who is voted for this structure -- infrastructure matter a lot. because of them, our kids are on the hook for another trillion dollars in debt for $100 billion in infrastructure. some of our comments from social media. one of those republican members who voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill mitch mcconnell and it was mcconnell who did not attend the signing
ceremony yesterday at the white house when it comes to his reasons for doing so, an article in "the hill" newspaper, he's saying i've got other things i've got to do other than going the signing ceremony. this was "the hill" reporting his comments to a local radio station in kentucky. mcconnell said that his support for the bill has sparked criticism and they noted that some of that criticism came from former president trump who lash out at the leader. it was mitch mcconnell on the floor over the build back better act, talking about his concerns about rising inflation and democrat solution toss it.
here's the senate minority leader. >> the democrats flyings crisis has gotten so bad that washington should stop to pretend and starting to admit it's on them to fix it. they denied that inflation was the lasting problem, america are convinced they're just the people to fix it. but the solutions are more of the same absurd policies that help dig this hole in the first place. after months and mostly ignoring the problem, pipe -- president biden responded to the inflation data by insisting that reversing the trend is a pop priority for me -- top priority for me. but surprised the president's preferred solution just so happens to be the same reckless taxing and spending spree his administration has been pushing for months now.
they cooked up his spending spree back when they were just saying inflation wasn't a major problem. and it was still time to spend like crazy. but now miraculously, that same spending binge happens to be their prescription. so give me a break. this is a sweeping socialist wish list in search of a justification. it's another megadose of the same recness -- rec l.b.'sness. when the bill was up in the senate, 13 house members voted for it as well as well as several of mitch mcconnell's
colleagues. we want to know does bipartisanship still matter to you? again, phone lines, 202-748-8000 if you say yes. no, 202-748-8001. and if you're not sure, 202-748-8002. it's just after 7:30 on the east coast. a reminder the house ends at 10:00 eastern this -- in at 10:00 issue this morning. and of note today, on c-span3, a hearing with the homefield advantage -- homeland security secretary. you can watch that hearing on c-span3. c-span.org, and you can watch it on the new c-span now video app. sure to get several questions on that border hearing. and in woodstock, new hampshire,
the president will be there live on the c-span networks and on the c-span now app. caller: when you look at the blue states, california, all the way up into the late 1970's, and the democrats took that state completely over. look at illinois. look at new jersey. all up and down the coast. the blue states, they just are absolutely horrific for the people who live in those states. and they don't care. all they want is power. and it's never going to change for them. but the right of the polls and put their little check mark for
the other dummy crap. host: all right. let's hold off then name call this morning. james in newark, new jersey. good morning. we say it still matters. caller: yes, good morning. how are you doing, c-span? yes. i was born bipartisan. my mother helped f.d.r. with the new deal. my father, gung ho u.s.a. i was born bipartisan in 1953. now, bipartisan? yes. piecemeal, yes. and it's happening. so i'm quite happy. host: that's james in new jersey. this is michelle, also in new jersey. princeton. good morning. caller: good morning. happy tuesday. how are you today? host: i'm doing well. go ahead. caller: i've been bipartisan --
i think bipartisan is really a joke because we have the republicans, we have the democrats. and they're both working together, really, to administer the 1%. and what i'm finding is that they're pitting americans against americans in regards to the divisions that they have, whether it's religion, whether it's race, whether it's jobs, whether it's class. and we as americans have to bind together as one regardless of your race, your class, or what have you. you are an american. and regardless of bipartisan and the laws that they are creating, we as americans got to realize how do those laws affect us and do we want those laws?
and we as americans have to realizes that we have the power. we have the power to make things happen for us. now we got the fuel rising, we got the food rising. and what i was hearing this morning, you know, people making $50,000 or less, now they got the fuel the food, and everything rising and now they're taking away from their bills and things. and basically, our bills is what run america. host: michelle, on fuel costs increases, a conversation on that in our 9:00 eastern hour this morning. we're going to be joined by jeff mower, of s&p global platts. he's the director of their americas oil news publication. he's been covering gas prices and oil markets since the 1990's. we've had him on this program before. usually when these sort of fuel
spikes happen, they talk about the causes and what the federal government can and can't do. so if you want to stick around for that conversation, 9:00 a.m. eastern this morning. julie, northport, florida. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. host: of course. go ahead. caller: i think bipartisanship matters to me significantly just like, you know, cooperating of all getting along. things are beginning to improve. biden still has over three years to go, and hopefully, we will see more of this and more unity. i'm thrilled about this new law. and i hope everyone else is as well. we will begin to see this in reality, more jobs. better roads, better highways, bridges. i think it's a very exciting time for us and i'm sorry that we have so many people that
don't think bipartisanship matters. it's all about -- host: you say you're thrilled about this new law, the infrastructure bill that's now a law. what are your thoughts on the build back better act? democrats taking a very different approach with that piece of legislation. using the budget reconciliation process here to avoid having to get republican votes in the senate to avoid having to get to the filibuster threshold. caller: i'm not a fan of the filibuster. i'm of the belief that we can do this together. i'm praying that we can all across -- compromise. i think that we're better than all of this infighting. i'm concerned about the
spending. but do i believe in helping our poor. i've always been ad cat for the underserved. and, you know, i've been watching closely and i think that this build back better will go through. but i'm hoping on a bipartisan basis. host: julie, do you think it would have been better to split this up? we're talking about a nearly $2 trillion piece of legislation and i know we've been talking about very big bills of late. but you say there's parts of this you like. do you think it would have been easier to get bipartisanship if they passed the environmental, the climate change pieces to this as one bill and the child care piece of this as another bill? would that have been better for bipartisanship? caller: absolutely. and i think that would be better for all of us i've never been a fan of throwing a lot of different programs, a lot of different ideas into one bill.
i think -- you know, if we take one thing at a time, let's see where we stand on climate change. what can we come toon agreement on? let's build on that. it's one thing at a time. that's why i've always been an independent voter. i don't believe in the way the democrats throw everything into one thing and hope it goes. and i don't believe in the republicans denying everything. i'm right down the middle, very conservative, independent. i'm upset with our progressives that they did not vote for the infrastructure bill because they didn't get their way. to me, that's china -- childish. host: on the democrats approach to the build back better act, the social spending bill, a column from yesterday from fox news.com, you might know the author, newt gingrich, former
speaker of the house the headline, the dieing art of compromise in washington here's how we were private. and this is part of what the former republican house speaker said in that piece. he says the point of the build back better act is to tim pose a radical agenda on the country without republican support not to help the american people. he writes many people saw time of deep division and chaos -- that's newt gingrich from foxnews.com, his piece there. crystal, philadelphia. good morning. you're next. caller: oh, good morning,
america. good morning, c-span. bipartisanship, i'm 63 years old. and i remember when even with differences and stuff, you could work together. the work -- to work stuff out. you meet up and they used to talk about going to having a beer and stuff together. but in this day and age? i just -- it is horrible. there's no common courtesy. a trouble -- troublemakers. instead of being lawmakers. they're working hard to make stuff work with helping common people. they gum up the system. they don't follow the rules on
the floor. and they're just plain bullies. i don't know how you work with people like this. it makes no sense. and there is no -- doesn't seem to be any consequences. they threaten each other. and just act like it's high school instead of congress of the united states and they just block any and everything. whether it's good. if it's bad, point out what's bad. work out stuff and get stuff done for america. caller: what i'm calling about is i'm not sure about it but what i want to know is the infrastructure bill. will that money go to finishing
the wall? hello? host: the divided administration on the first day of the biden signed an executive order stopping the construction there on the wall. so in terms of funding for infrastructure on new wall for the border, new miles of wall, my implication is it's definitely not in that bill but i haven't gone through it line-by-line for you, clarence. caller: well i think that it should. do you hear me? host: i do hear you. caller: oh, ok. all right. that's all i wanted to say. i think that wall should be finished. host: all right johnny in port origin, florida, good morning. caller: how are you doing? yes. i don't think bipartisan really matters anymore. you need a third party and the third party got to compete with
most people for a long time, we've got the republicans. we've got the democrats and they're running things. they're like the old white boys club. neither represent the other people that are trying do other things as well. without that, we have no real checks and balances. they're doing what they want to do and they look the same. host: that's johnny in port orange, florida. my producer, nate, sending me up the proclamation from january 20, from the first day in office for joe biden, the proclamation he made on the wall, the termination of emergency with respect to the southern border of the united states and the redirection of funds diverted to border wall construction. that executive order from the president within 24 hours, becoming president. this is mike in norwalk, ohio. good morning. caller: good morning, america. how is it that they can pass a bill and not one of these
individuals has even read it? i mean, come on. and as far as unity, the democrats spent the last four years trying to impeach trump because he wasn't part of the boys club. the only way it's going to get done is if we throw everybody out of that building behind you. i mean, this is getting to be ridiculous. unity is gone. host: that's mike in ohio. a lot of talk about unity in yesterday's signing ceremony at the white house. a lot of talk about bipartisanship for the bipartisan infrastructure bill. here's more from president biden at that signing ceremony yesterday. president biden: somewhere along the way, we stopped investing on ourself. we risk losing -- and china and the rest to the world are catching up. our infrastructure used to be the best in the world. now according to world economic, we are ranked 13 in the word.
well, that's about to change. things are going to turn around in a big way. for example, because of this law, next year will be the first year in 20 years american infrastructure investment will grow faster than china. once again, we will have the best roads, bridges, ports and airports over the next decade. it will lead the world in the 21st century with a modern cars and trucks and transits. we're going do this by building again and moving again. folks, too often washington, the reason we didn't get things done is because we insist on getting everything we want everything. with this law, we focus on getting things done. the only way to move this country forward in my view was to compromise in consensus. that's how this system works. that's american democracy. and i'm going to be signing a law that's questionable --
consequential. we compromise. we reach the consensus. that's necessary. host: president biden yesterday from the white house from that signing ceremony. a few minutes left, about 10 minutes in this first hour of "washington journal." no the question -- does bipartisanship matter to you? you seen it in washington? yes, 202-748-8000, those who say no, 202-748-8001. and those who aren't sure, 202-748-8002. greg is on that not sure line out in pennsylvania. good morning. caller: yes. i'm not sure because in a perfect world, yes, bipartisanship should make a difference. because everybody should want the same thing, but have different ways of getting there and there should be discussion about the different ways to get there. the question is whether that is what we have today.
and i don't think so. i don't think we have two honest parties. now and you can -- people can piss and moan about both parties and they do it every day on "washington journal" and the mainstream media and in my opinion, you and others there, immediate into the -- feed into the division. people have to look at each politician and vote yes or no on that person. you just heard hunter's dad do his standard thing. now, he says these things. the sound bites, c-span, and the mainstream media will broadcast those sound bites for -- forever. now, who knows whether he writes them or not? i personally don't believe he did. i think it would be great for c-span to find out who actually is running the white house. but these people do something
different. listen to pelosi. listen to schumer. listen to a.o.c. and you tell me. is it possible? is it possible to have a reasonable discussion with those people? host: no, greg, to this question that we ask, maybe this would have been a better phrasing for this. do you think for your elected member, do you want to see them compromise or do you want to see them stick to their principles? are you ok -- go ahead. caller: go ahead. go ahead. host: no, it's a call-in show. you go ahead. caller: ok. all right. i want them to listen. and this gets back to a topic that c-span has covered every once in a while. do you elect somebody to do what you want them to do or do you elect somebody who is smart enough to make the right decisions? there is a difference. i want my person that i -- my representative, scott perry, to
listen to the other side. and then respond to the other side. don't do what the democrats do. don't call me a racist because i'm an old white guy who disagrees with a.o.c. don't do that. that doesn't further the discussion. and help us get to where, i hope, everybody wants to get. if that's the way the other side is going to respond, then is it time for to just throw down the gauntlet and say come on, let's have a civil war, whatever. one side wins. one side loses. if that's the way you want to play the game, then let's do that. host: that's greg in pennsylvania. this is mike in dallas, north carolina. good morning. caller: good morning, john. how are you doing? host: doing well, mike. caller: i'm 63 here, a white guy. i've served four years in the military. i joined the all voluntary
military. it was right after vietnam. i'm not putting that to get a $6 cup of coffee at starbucks. i believe in bipartisanship. i want this country to come together, you know? used to kind of be together, you know what i mean? but nowadays, man, it's like, well, you know, i've got to be a racist because i'm an old white guy or i've got to be a trumper because i voted for the guy. wouldn't you like to -- host: you say you used to be that way. when did it used to be that way? when did it used to be kind of together? caller: well, i don't remember everybody being demonized so badly for, you know, just voting. i mean, man, i am demonized every morning on this show just for the way i vote. now that's the truth, right?
did you cut me off, man? host: no, sir. go ahead and finish your comment. caller: ok. but you know, i'm really tired of being demonized. i can't be so many more -- too many more s.o.b.'s before we have to step outed. i want my grandchildren to grow up like the 1970's, the 1980's. you know, i know that it wasn't great for everybody, hey, man, i worked in the damn cotton mill for $2.65 but i tried to survive you know? i didn't get married until i was kind of stable, 25, in myself. host: so mike -- caller: until i could afford a family. host: you talk about your grandchildren. are you optimistic about the america that your grandchildren will inherit? caller: no. i don't think they're going to inherit the america that i had or that you had or any of us had. i don't really think they're going to be able to afford to
buy a house. i don't think they're going to be able to afford the kind of life we had. i mean, really. you know, i had brand-new trucks, in 1978. i had a harley-davidson in 1980. i didn't get married until i was 25. i went out and did everything and i try to do all this crazy stuff and put it behind me, you know? so i could prepare myself to raise a family. host: that's mike in north carolina this morning. just about five minutes left in this first segment of the "washington journal." did want to note a retirement announcement yesterday. one member who's been around for a very long time on capitol hill, senator patrick leahy is retiring the headlining, leaving behind a legacy of humanitarianism and devotion the state of vermont after nearly 50 years, the senator announced yesterday that he will not seek re-election in 2022.
leahy first went to washington in 1975 after defeating republican candidate dick mallory. by about 1,500 votes back the election of 1974 and sent off a challenge from a union party candidate named bernie sanders. fast forward to yesterday, patrick leahy making his retirement announcement. here's bit from it. >> i know i've been there for my state where i was needed most. i know i've taken the best ideas and helped it grow. i brought vermont's voice to the united states ♪ senate. and vermont's values around the world. so, yeah, i'm proud to be vermont's longest serving senator. and while i will continue to serve vermont, we have reached
the conclusion. it is time to put down the gauntlet. it is time to pass the torch. to the next vermonter will carry on this work for our great state. it's time to come home. so i will forever carry with me the enduring bond with my fellow vermonters whose common sense and goodness is what i strive to match and their representative. thank you all for being the inspiration and the motivation for all the good that has come from my work in the senate. rest assured that our state, the nation will remain resilient in the next -- and the next generation will ensure our democracy remains whole and thriving. host: senator patrick leahy, yesterday, making his retirement announcement.
back to your phone calls after few minutes left on this question. does bipartisanship matter to you? john in ashland, ohio. says he's not sure. why? caller: hello? host: why. >> you sure, john? caller: oh. well, here's the thing. bipartisanship, i mean, the thing is, we went from the united states of america to the divided states of america. and the sad thing is some of the comments i hear from this program, i mean, it's the american people giving these comments aren't very educated. and the sad thing is the things they say that this is a democratic orenn thing -- or republican thing. this is an american thing we're american we all should stick together. we need to help each other. we need to do what's right. you know, when this becomes a democratic or a republican thing, that's wrong.
i mean, if we can't get together and sit down and have agreements or disagreements, i mean, we no longer become a united nation we become a divided nation. and that's what this country's become. i mean, it's sad that this is taking place today in 2021 that we haven't really progressed, we're regressing we're going back to the things that destroyed this country instead of improving this country. host: that's john in ohio. one last call from stacey in mcclain, virginia good morning. does bipartisanship matter to you? caller: oh, definitely it does, jon. good morning, jon. good morning, america. like thomas jefferson said, one party or any wing of any party doesn't have the solution or the answer to all of our problems. we have to work together. the fact that we've got democrats and republicans beat
them like they're bloods and crypt, pitting ideas against each other as if they were weapons ideas are just that, ideas. and everybody has opinions. we can't work together. we won't be united. this country will not move forward. and we will suffer in the end because if we're not united together and working as one unit to better this nation, we won't have anything to leave our grandchildren because they'll be ignorant. they'll be uneducated. and they'll be left with a country that is crumbling. host: stacey in virginia our last caller this first segment of the "washington journal." but stick around. plenty more to discuss this morning, including up next, and after the break, where we will be joined by republican congressman lloyd smucker of pennsylvania who sits on both the budget and ways and means committee to talk about a very busy week on capitol hill, and a bit later, we'll be joined by