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>> robert abrams, former new york attorney general, discussed the current state of politics and the role of the state attorney general. letitia james moderated this 55 minute conversation. [applause] >> good evening, everyone. thank you all for coming. i have the honor and privilege of being with my mentor rob abrams, who has taught me so much and inspired me. this book, hope all of you read the forward -- [laughter] >> outstanding. >> it was my honor and privilege
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to write the forward. it is an inspiring book, encouraging book, a book which underscores your values. we find ourselves in a very dark moment in history in our country. my first question to you, mr. abrams, what do you think about what is happening in our country, how divisive we are, the rhetoric? what are your thoughts? >> well, it is distressing. obviously, also spilled over into politics or maybe it has emanated from political leaders. but i think it is incumbent upon people like you and i to dissipate that and to say there is an alternative. your career, my career, our values are those of
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inclusiveness, reaching out. i was going to ask you, when i was attorney general, i had the good fortune of being president of the national association of attorneys general. there wasn't partisanship. there were republicans that were very conservative, moderates, democrats, liberals in the center and yet we all worked together. we were brothers and sisters in a common cause in trying to help our constituents. utilize the powers of the attorney general's office to protect the environment, protect them as consumers, protecting civil rights. and he did not or matter whether we were democrats or republicans, whether we represented a large estate for a small state were from the south where the north and east and west. and we collaborated together. we get things that were never
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done before. we worked together and having joint investigations and joint prosecutions. so it is distressing to see what is going on in the country, but you and i can demonstrate to large numbers of people in the public that it can be different. and to encourage young people to enter politics. not to be discouraged by it. there's a lot that can consummate is that, "gee, i don't go near that stuff." obviously, it is that. there is gridlock in washington. things don't get done. one of the exciting things for me being attorney general was the fact you could actually do things that were important to people. you did not have to rely upon a congress to pass a law. you can bring a lawsuit that can return millions of dollars to consumers.
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you can bring a lawsuit that can clean up the environment. you can bring a lawsuit that protected women's reproductive freedom. you had the power to decide when to bring that lawsuit, how to resolve that lawsuit, whether it should be a civil investigation lawsuit or impanel a grand jury. that is what made the attorney general's office extremely exciting. i am so excited to see you in that office because you are carrying on that tradition. yet become a leader among attorneys general and at the country. i am sure you share my view that it is a great privilege to have the opportunity to serve. >> honor and a privilege. we would like a little about public policy and the role of attorney general shortly, but entitled "the light just got in the world." not in the state, not in the nation. what makes you the luckiest guy
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in the world? >> a lot of things. first of all, my family. my wife is here tonight celebrating 47 years of marriage. [laughter] two daughters who produced eight grandchildren for us. i consider myself lucky because i had any opportunity to serve the people of new york in three different offices. i was a 27-year-old kid just a few years out of law school and the people in my silly district gave me a chance to come to albany to serve in the legislature. the nicer three terms in the bronx, for terms as attorney general. what a privilege. that was lucky for me because i had the chance to do things. -- the chance to do things in
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the public interest. lots of things were lucky. i talk in the book, i would is he a doctor 12 years ago and he told me i had a malignant tumor and a serious cancer situation. it wound up to be a 25 centimeter tumor that wage 25 pounds and i was under the knife for over six powers and had blood transfusions, and here a.m. pretty healthy today, 12 years later -- and here i am, pretty healthy today, 12 years later. not just the luckiest guy in new york but in the world. >> you from the bronx and me from the brooklyn, i refer to it as b squared. tell us about your upbringing and family. i know your family owned a supermarket or a luncheonette. and here you are, the attorney general, former borough
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president, former assembly member. >> the first day i served as attorney general, a guy named stan brooks was a veteran reporter, and he came to interview me. i was on the 47th floor, and he said, mr. attorney general, being attorney general in the state of new york being the attorney general of new york? i said, i am looking out the window, and there is the statue of liberty. what a country. my grandparents were escaping oppression from eastern europe, and they came on a ship. i don't not even think they saw -- do not even think they saw the statue. it is part of being lucky, growing up in the bronx, it is fantastic. there was a sense of community in the neighborhood. my family all lived in the bronx, my aunts, uncles were nearby.
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growing up, that is what helped shape my values, my grandparents, my father would talk about how it was for his parents to come here as immigrants, to create a new life in the days of sweatshops, terrible working conditions. my father would always tell me how it was important to fight for the little guy, the ordinary guy. he would take me into the polling booth to vote. even though he was a roosevelt democrat, he said i am going to do a protest vote. those democrats, not doing enough for the people. he would vote the liberal party line, the labour party line. one of his heroes was vito marcantonio. leo isaacson was a congressman who ran on the american labor
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party ticket, so those votes were part of my roots that helped shape my values, and i consider myself lucky to come from that kind of a family that is not only loving but it gives you a good sense of mission and purpose. >> that rebellion exhibited by your father at the polling site, is that one of the reasons you were so anti-establishment or anti-entrenched interests? >> how i got into politics is a lead into the answer that question. i never thought i would run for public office. i was a student at columbia college. i had a wonderful professor, david truman. i took a government course. the assignment was you have to write a paper on the congressional district. i want to know everything, i want to know it's countries, the
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boundaries, the socioeconomics of that district. i want to know everything about the congressman in the district and i want you to interview the congressman. so i began to work on the paper, and my congressman was charles buckley, 30 year incumbent, the chairman of the powerful committee, the voice of the bronx, so i figured i will go to his district office and ask for the opportunity to interview him. there is no district office. i called his office in washington. i am a columbia student, i left a message, left a second message, left a third message, no response. i submitted the paper without having the opportunity to interview the congressman. i thought that my greatest suffered a little bit.
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i went to law school and a man names francis adams, the former police commissioner, was leading a revolt against the forces governing the democratic party, and the law students were all gathered, and he said, look, you not only should become good lawyers but you have to be active in the community, and we are trying to oust the bad guys, the old-line democrats not allowing young people into the party, doling out patronage and cronyism and i want you to get into politics, so the names of those people who were there were sent to the local club. i got a call saying we know you went to that reception, we are running some races and we would like you to get involved. i said, look, i love the reception, i enjoyed the message , i think it is right, but i
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cannot get involved right now. i have three different jobs. the dining hall to get my three meals, selling newspapers to a magazine agency, i was dropping off the daily spectator. i do not have the time to do it. i was going to school. they said we are running different races, you have got to get involved. i said i will at some point. i am too busy now. no, no, we are running and we are challenging the congressman in that district, charles buckley. i said what did you say? i got involved in that campaign and that is how i got into politics. that led me to run a david and goliath race. i ran against my local assembly member, chairman of the ways and means committee. i had no money. there is a display here.
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my first button was so tiny. we could not afford a button. i ordered some fortune cookies, i ordered 10,000 fortune cookies and i gave them out to people sitting on park benches, and i said i am bob abrams, i am independent democrat running. i hope you will vote. have a fortune cookie. and they went open up a fortune cookie and would say there -- "your good fortune is bob abrams for the assembly." [laughter] you cannot predict what is going to happen in life. >> what do you think about the roles of money in campaign? what are your thoughts? >> i think public financing is the way to go in my view. public airwaves belong to the people.
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>> should we overturn citizens united? >> i think so. [applause] it is not fair when someone with millions of dollars can come in. and then they blow the opponents away. >> do corporations have a first amendment right? >> they do, but money pollutes politics. even if you are an honest person and you have to raise money, it is a perception. you get accused, why did you take money from that person? i think there are ways in which you can limit -- new york city has a good public financing mechanism, a multiplier with matching small contributions, but i think it is horrible what is happening today and it gets
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worse each year in each cycle. >> you abide by a certain constitution, duty to organize, duty to get involved, duty to vote. you spoke to my summer interns -- and i thank you for that -- and you talked about that duty to get involved in your community and local politics. can you speak more about those values? >> first of all, there is a perception today on the part of young people that they may not want to get involved in politics because it is grimy. stories abound of people who crossed the line, and i tried to tell them, yeah, that happens, but my experience has been most of the people i worked with in politics were honorable, decent,
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competent, so i went to -- want to encourage them to get involved. we see doctors, librarians, teachers, we hold them in high esteem. we say they have a calling. why shouldn't somebody in public life, public office see that role and that responsibility as a calling, and that is what i reer and my life. it was a privilege to serve the public, it was an opportunity to repair the world, to make changes, to make this a better place. i tell them when you are lying there in the bed and you do not have much time left and you are reflecting upon your life wouldn't it be nice to think, i
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used that limited amount of time to the best of my ability to make this world a better place, to make this planet more livable? you can do that by being in public service, by running for public office, by being involved. >> you served during the reagan era and i served during the trump era. [sighs] tell us about the reagan era. obviously he pushed state attorney generals forward on a national stage. can you speak to the audience about your experience with the reagan administration? >> it is interesting because they are comparable. i got elected in 1978, ronald reagan got elected in 1980. he got elected on the platform of laissez-faire government, get government off the back of business and a lot of people do not like politicians because they say one thing in a campaign
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and they do something else in the course of their governance. ronald reagan was true to his word. he appointed people to enforcement positions who did not believe in enforcing the law. the federal trade commission did not bring a single false advertising case in six years. the head of the antitrust division did not believe in the sherman clayton act. in fact, wanted to repeal a cornerstone, fundamental legislative enactment to enforce antitrust laws. the environmental protection agency administrator did not believe in the enforcement of environmental laws. he put the watchdog to sleep. that created the opportunity for state attorneys general to step into the breach, and we did that, and for the first time -- probably in history -- there was this extraordinary
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cooperation of joint investigation and joint prosecution in challenging the reagan government when it was not doing his job, and you came along in the trump era in the same way, because donald trump came to office in a likewise fashion, appointed people who were diminishing the rights of individuals, diminishing the rights of immigrants, diminishing the rights of those attempting to live in a quality environment, the clean air act and other environmental protection statutes were not being enforced. attorneys general did the same thing in the trump era as we did in the reagan era and i was proud to see how you were a leader among attorneys general -- bringing multiple together to
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bring lawsuits. >> did you ever think you would be in a position of implementing public-policy litigation? >> sometimes there is criticism about the role of attorney general in creating public-policy. i am on the other side of that. to me it is good public policy to enforce the law. when congress enacts laws at the federal level, the legislature enacts laws, what good is a law sitting in a law book in a library if it is not enforced? it is the role of the attorney general to enforce those laws, and i did that in the area of civil rights and antitrust and consumer protection. we went ahead. it was the first time in the history of new york that a lawsuit was brought to clean up a toxic waste site. there were people living in western new york, 900 homes, two
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public schools, sitting on top of the way site, 40 million tons of dangerous toxic chemicals, and people were getting sick. people were getting cancer. women were having miscarriages. children were born with birth defects. it was the role of the attorney general as i was responding to complaints of people living in that community to do something about it. and even though we didn't have a strong statute, we used a common law concept of causing a wrongdoer to clean up the mess it created, as a result of the love canal, the congress passed a statute and gave more authority to an attorney general. but we utilize that statute to bring that lawsuit, to give back millions of dollars to the hands of people who suffered and have a cleanup of that site. after that lawsuit, i've brought 65 other lawsuits of toxic waste
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sites around the state to clean them up. if that is public policy, so be it. i saw that is my role, and i saw that as good government policy. doing my job of protecting the citizens of my state. >> you stood up on behalf of members of the lgbtq community, on behalf of reproductive rights. you were way ahead of your time when it wasn't very popular. [applause] speak to the audience a little bit about why you felt it was necessary to stand up on behalf of a woman's right to choose. >> it was part of what i just said. there is nothing written in the law about my filing of an amicus brief on behalf of women's right to choose, reproductive freedom.
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but i felt the fundamental right of a woman to be able to control her own body. so i began to file briefs. it was rare at that time for state attorney general to do that. i tried to reach out to my colleagues who had similar views to join me. it was because again, i was an elected attorney general taking an oath of office saying i was going to enforce the laws of the state of new york. to the best of my ability, so help me god. that is what i tried to do. if i have the opportunity to for women, with respect to reproductive freedom, for the right in the workplace to be hired, not to be sexually harassed and discriminated against based upon their sex, or to have people not discriminated against based on their sexual orientation, i did that.
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i came back to my office after testifying at the city council and my secretary said where were you? where were you this morning? she said the phones are ringing off the hook. people are screaming. they are saying they are never going to vote for you again. i was at city hall and testified in support of the gay rights bill. that was 1971. that was in a day where that was a very unpopular issue. but i felt in my heart that people should be respected. their sexual orientation should not make a difference. they have a right to live a life. those were some of my motivating guideposts during the course of my career. >> we find ourselves looking at what is happening in texas and mississippi, what do you think is going to happen respect to roe v. wade? >> i am very distressed.
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one would have thought that roe v. wade was settled law, and it did not matter who was on the court, it was settled law. dubious courts -- previous courts with conservatives, moderates, liberal justices, it's very distressing to see what happens. of course it affects minority people, poor people. it is very distressing. i was going to ask you what you thought was going to be the outcome of all of this. here we were over decades, we made gains, women were able to be able to not be fearful about going to an abortion clinic or being able to get contraception, being able to make the most personal decisions in their lives controlling their own
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body, now we have a whittling away of roe v. wade. i know you are again leading the way to try and prevent that kind of incursion, but are we going to see road disappear? >> i hope not. but i know in this book you detail, way back in the 1970's, reproductive rights, you defended our rights on behalf of all women not only in new york state but in mississippi and texas, we thank you. >> you transform the office of attorney general, prior to your arrival there were no regional offices. there are 16 regional offices as a result of your vision. from buffalo all the way to suffolk county on long island. you also focused on consumer
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rights, environmental space. >> i felt it was my obligation to try to maximize the role and power of the attorney general on behalf of the people in the public. people should understand, and i know this uniquely, what a role, what an opportunity, what an office. first of all it is not able. that history is first of all it was a defensive office. for 200 years the attorney general's role was to defend the state whenever the state was sued. in the last half-century the attorney general's role became redefined. the sovereign was not the only entity that the attorney general
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could represent. it is the people, the public interest, so instead of merely being defensive the attorney general went on the offensive, began to launch investigations, and so i saw this as an exciting opportunity to be at the cutting edge, to do more and more in these various areas, to protect workers, to protect occupational safety, safety at the worksite, to protect women, children, those who could not afford to fight against powerful interests, whether they be corporate interests or governmental bureaucratic interests. one of the things i said in the book is that the good guys can win. these are herculean battles and people cannot do it alone, but the attorney general being
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aligned with individuals, many groups, advocacy groups can bring lawsuits and can win, can bring about tangible results and that is what made it so exciting for me. i thought it was my role and responsibility and part of my job. >> who are some of your role models particularly in today's landscape? >> first of all, i admired john kennedy. he was a guy that gave me inspiration. i went to law school when he was sworn in and i was watching this guy. i see that as an opportunity to be in public service, i look at what is happening here with this
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new guy coming into public office, and along the way you and i should consider that. he later became a judge and i ran for public office myself. it is all part of a fortunate life experience, being given the chance to go and pursue an opportunity of pursuing your values and what you believe has to be done. i saw the attorney general's office as an ally of the people. that was a motto in my campaign. people cannot fight against huge companies and big law firms alone. they have to work together, and if they do it in conjunction with the state attorney general, it comes into the courts in the name of the people of the state of new york and work with on the -- other attorney general's
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across the state of the country. when we created joint investigations we went after the tobacco industry. here is an industry lying to the public, did not tell the full story about the addictive nature of cigarettes, our people were being deceived and murdered, they weren't dying as a result of getting cancer from cigarettes and they were praying upon young people and there were advertising practices and humor 46 attorney generals causing the tobacco industry to pay billions of dollars back into the treasuries of the state who suffered because they had to pay out medical expenses for those getting sick as a result of cancer and the reform of the advertising practices of the tobacco industry. here was a congress for decades you did nothing about this
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public policy issue and attorney general -- attorneys general were able to do this. attorney generals are on the front line as protectors on behalf of people. i wanted to do is much as i could. i held 47 hearings on the environmental issue. i testified before congress 37 times. nowhere in the job description of attorney general or statute does it say the attorney general should go to washington to testify, i thought it was important for my voice to be heard on impending legislation. i thought it was important for me to use the bully pulpit to talk about privacy rights. i thought it was important for me to issue reports that would advance the cause of people's rights, environmental protection , and what an opportunity as an
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opportunity -- as in attorney general -- an attorney general. >> i want to thank you, juul took a page out of big tobacco and they are marketing to children, and as a result our office is pursuing that case. [applause] thank you. there are a number of assistants in my office who worked on the opioid -- we modeled it after all that you did, and i just want to thank you. are there any assistant attorney generals in the audience? raise your hand. thank you for being here. [applause] in the book you talk about how you met your lovely bride who was in the audience.
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tell us how you met the love of your life? at all of those jobs? >> that was the point, i was so busy i do not get married until i was 36. >> it is ok. my mother says i am tragically single. >> one day, a rabbi, i was active in the soviet joint unit. trying to get relief for jewish population -- the jewish population, and i would go to rallies and demonstrations and one day this rabbi came over to me and said, i have the girl for you. and then he gives me this piece of paper and says she is perfect for you. call her. she has were sense of value, she
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is very attractive, she comes from a wonderful family, i know that family. color. she would go to another really a few weeks later and said what is happened. i would say i am busy, and then one day, the person i talked about before, she opened the door and said, mr. president, that rabbi is on the phone. you know what he is going to talk about. it is in our of your time. maybe something -- hour of your time. maybe something will happen. i married diane, and we have
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done so much together over the years, she came to all of the meetings of the national association of attorneys general, and my activity gave me the right not only to meet colleagues. i wonder if the same is true with you. the people i worked with became my lifelong friends. i do not know them before. we were joined together and it did not matter whether they were republicans or democrats, men or women, they are my strongest friends and part of that happened because we were given an opportunity to travel the world together. the delegation of attorneys general went to poland, czechoslovakia, and hungary to talk about democratic institutions, constitutional values, and when you travel like
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that you develop real bonds of friendship and close association. we went to the soviet union and to travel to different places, and it went with me on those trips -- diane went with me on those trips. >> you served as the president of the national association of attorneys general. i know we have got nag, democratic attorney general, republican attorney general's, all of these organizations. what do you think of all of that ? it is a lot of meeting, traveling. i tried to do either nag or daga. >> that is part of the change of the political scene and it brings us back to your first question. the partisanship that is
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dominating the political scene today, because when i was attorney general there was the national association of attorney general and now the governor have their own associations. there was the democratic association and the republican association and the attorney general there was only national association. since then there is the republican attorney general association at the democratic attorney general association, and i think unfortunately partisanship and the fundraising that goes on raises certain kinds of issues, and i think it is unfortunate that we have shifted into that modality. >> i cannot have a discussion with some of my colleagues had red states on litigation against the nra. i do not inc. they would accept
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my position on reproductive rights or might lawsuit, the investigation we are engaging and against a previous president, whereas daga they accept that. in nag we talk about big tech, juul. on some issues that i know my colleagues in red states would not accept i tried to find common ground. >> i was going to ask you about that. on your press release, i see very often lawsuits are brought by 17 attorneys general or 14 attorneys general and those of the democrats on more ideological issues, and i was wondering whether or not there are many lawsuits brought by all or most of the attorneys
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general. on the tech issue i sought -- i do not know if it was facebook. >> it started in the previous administration and it was much more partisan. we find ourselves coming together on some issues, but, for instance, today i co-authored a letter with respect to the situation in texas involving haitian refugees signed on by 16 attorney generals in blue states. it depends upon the issue, and i try to appeal to the humanity of all individuals and bring people together, particularly at a time when we find ourselves so divided. we need to speak with one voice and it is difficult, very challenging, but nonetheless you inspire me because you are the luckiest guy in the world. do you miss public life? >> of course. >> what do you miss about it? >> even though i spent 28 years
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in public life, three different offices in the legislature, the assembly, and watch what terms as attorney general and i went into private practice. i said if i am to come here, public service and public issues are part of my essence, i cannot do without involvement in those issues and they gave me the green light. we are a firm with a 100 year history and we do pro bono work, and they gave me the opportunity to continue pro bono activity, so the organization i worked with when i was attorney general, the center for reproductive rights, we filed briefs on behalf of united states senators on abortion and
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choice issues. members of the house and senate, so i worked on lots of issues over the last 25 years that were public service and pro bono issues, so yes, i missed the opportunity of public life but it was a carry over into my private life, so i considered myself lucky because perhaps i had the best of both worlds. for the first time i was earning a living, and at the same time, i was able to do pro bono things. the mayor of new york appointed me to commission, the governor appointed me to be cochair of the task force after superstorm sandy to see whether or not the utilities behaved in an appropriate and responsive way. i worked with my colleagues on behalf of a former governor, who i thought was unfairly treated
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in a political prosecution and i got 113 former attorneys general to file a brief on his behalf before the united states supreme court. i worked with the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints to resolve issues with the jewish community. i went to is pakistan -- uz bekistan to monitor programs. there were lots of exciting things that were on my plate when i was on the private sector that replicated the kinds of things i was doing in public office. >> where are all of your papers? >> they are in the archives. [applause] the sponsor of this forum tonight is the you new york -- is the new york state archive foundation.
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they got 270 million documents under their control and did their position and it is so important to preserve these documents not only to preserve the history of this great state but in terms of public policy, because scholars, students can come here and investigate, look at files and determine what happened in the past and what can happen going forward. the ceo of this organization, the archivist gave me a tour today and we were looking at documents related to conversation. and i said, why is all of this stuff here? he said scholars want to know. what do you do with prisoners as it relates to war? you can learn from what happened in the past, what happens in other states, so this is an
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extraordinary institution. >> can you talk a little bit about addicts? i remember the section about attica and it came up recently in my office and i wanted to talk to you a little bit about attica. >> that predated me. there was litigation, and advocacy -- obviously -- we have not talked about this yet. there is the role of the attorney general ostensibly and -- defensively, and you have to defend the state when there are lawsuits and many of them are not popular lawsuits. prisoners file lawsuits about the quality of their health care, nutrition, religious opportunities, all kinds of
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issues, and most people do not realize that 2/3 of the lawyers in the attorney general's office are assigned to these defensive cases. >> was there ever a case you refused? >> not refused. >> a conflict? >> i dance. under dan's law -- dance law i do not walk too well. gay-rights, we played an important role in making the courts understand there were some legitimate privacy and constitutional issues. >> do you see room for change with respect to the office of attorney general?
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any areas of reform? >> there is always an opportunity for change. when i became attorney general on the defensive side, for example, the customer was that the attorney general was there to represent all state agencies. state agencies at the represent me in any cases -- had to represent me in any cases. they said, we are going to represent you where there is legitimacy and justice and authority, wait a minute. if we lost a lawsuit because the state was wrong, the state was not doing enough, for example. there was a lawsuit brought against the state police when i first became attorney general and the state police was doing a terrible job in doing outreach to make it more reflective of
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the population in the state. horrible numbers of relating to minority people, horrible numbers of any women at all, and this lawsuit raised legitimate issues and i told the state, we cannot properly defend this lawsuit in the circuit court of appeals. the decision of the district court was right and appropriate and you all should face up to reality and the facts, and we had to educate agencies and counsel agencies. we are not just going to automatically and reflexively defend every single lawsuit even if the state is wrong. change is always an opportunity as it relates to state governments. >> can you talk a bit about testifying before congress,
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testifying before the state legislature and issuing reports. i know a bit about issuing some reports. to what extent did all of that responsibility and those goals play with respect to public lessee, getting change, etc.? >> i think it had an impact. we issued a report. the state was not compiling data with respect to toxins happening in the state. they were not telling the public what was happening and giving appropriate information. we issued reports on acid rain. i was horrified to learn the burning of high sulfur coal in power plants in the midwest in violation of the clean air act was destroying and killing, irredeemable, these lakes were
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being poisoned and the fish had no prospect for life in those legs. -- lakes. so we issued reports, we went administratively before the apa -- epa, so time after time opportunity to do whatever could be done on behalf of the public on a given issue by an important player called the state attorney general. >> you were -- are eight-man before your time. thank you for all that you have done with respect to climate change and science. so we are coming to the end of the program. [applause] my last question to you is what advice do you have for me? usually we speak privately, but we are just in front of our friends. how am i doing? >> you are doing great.
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[applause] and you should keep going. you and i had quite the conversation as you were running as a candidate. you wanted me to serve on your transition team, and i honestly told you, you are inheriting an office that is unique. the attorney general has such an opportunity for public service, protecting -- protection of the public. there are great people in this office. continue to attract people, be gutsy and courageous, and you have done all of that. i was interviewed today by public radio and they asked me about your handling of the investigation of allegations against the governor about sexual harassment, and i said, look, the question was, it was
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there any politics involved? the governor asked for that investigation. andy tried to manipulate the investigation. he originally wanted two people to conduct the investigation and the attorney general courageously said it is my role in my responsibility to conduct that investigation. and then you were pointed to extraordinarily experience people, and they did their work methodically. they issued a report, universally claimed as being a professional report, hundreds of people who were interviewed, and to the report stood the test of integrity and independence, so my advice to you is keep going, keep doing what you were doing. you are doing a great job.
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[applause] >> thank you so much. the name of the book is " the luckiest guy in the world." it is on sale for $30. he is donating it to charitable causes. please pick up the book and read my forward. thank you all for coming. thank you so much. [applause] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2021]
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[indiscernible chatter] ♪ congresswoman liz cheney in new hampshire today the wyoming republican serves as the vice chair of the house elect committee investigating january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol . watch live coverage on c-span,, or c-span now. announcer: the u.s. house returns next monday and plans to pick up president biden's climate and social spending package later in the week. across the capitol the senate resumes executive nominations at 3:00 p.m. eastern. next up is graham steel,
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assistant secretary for financial institutions at the treasury department. watch the house live on c-span, the senate on c-span2, online at or follow with c-span now. ♪ announcer: american history tv saturdays on c-span2. exploring the people and events that tell the american story. at 2:00 eastern on the presidency historians revisit george washington's 1796 farewell address and his warnings against threats confronting the nation. at 10:00 p.m. eastern it marks the 100th anniversary of arlington national cemetery's tomb of the unknown soldier. samuel holliday shares the story behind the tomb including the overseas journey that took this anonymous soldier from the fighting yields of world war i france to america's most revered burial ground. exploring the american story. watch american history tv saturday on c-span2 and find the
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