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house speaker nancy pelosi was scheduled to brief reporters at 10:45 eastern. that has been rescheduled we understand to 2 p.m. eastern. we are also expected to hear from house minority leader kevin mccarthy at some point. he's scheduled for 11:30. you should know that president biden is scheduled to speak from the white house this morning in just a couple minutes. 11:15 eastern. we are planning to bring that to you live when he starts. the president was on capitol hill this morning to speak with democratic lawmakers about the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill that passed the senate in august. today, he outlined a framework for a $1.75 trillion budget plan, scaled back from that original proposal, $3.5 trillion. we'll bring you the president's speech from the white house as soon as it gets under way here in a couple minutes. live on c-span. here is president biden from this morning as he left his meeting with house democrats.
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>> a good day. yes. >> the house today? reporter: mr. president, will the bill pass the house today? reporter: the framework? president biden : you're not bored, are you? host: congresswon schakowsky, democrat from illinois joining out this morning. the president right now is preparing to come to capitol hill to talk to houston about a deal that he supposedly has in hand, we presume, with the two senators kristin cinema and joe manchin. what does he need to say to you to get you to vote yes on
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infrastructure and yes on social spending? guest: great to be with you again. i am really looking forward to this meeting with the president and. exactly what he is going to say. here's what i'm going to be looking for: i am anxious, truly anxious to vote for both an infrastructure bill that is going to be so important and what we call the build back better bill. that is going to have a lot of a human infrastructure that we also need that is so important. what i'm concerned about is that there is no guarantee. the democrats have been trying for a long time. we have been ready for months to vote for both bills. and what we've seen in the senate is actually two democratic senators who have held up the works, who have been
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changing the goalposts, putting in things, taking out things. what i want to hear is what exactly is that agreement? is this something that we can literally take to the bank and make sure that it is going to happen before we vote? i'm going to be honest with you, i don't really trust that unless we get it in some kind of writing that it is really final. that they are not going to say that's not what i meant, and we are not going to do it. i'm really looking forward to this. i want to vote for both bills. host: what do you mean by having it in writing? are you going as far as the progressive caucus chair same you need full text and all 50 democrats signing off on it? guest: we need something more than "we are going to have
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something for expanding medicare for seniors so that they get care." i want to know there is an agreement that has been made on we are going to get hearing aids, we are going to get dental care. we are going to get childcare. we are going to get the child tax credit. we are going to get some housing funding. we are going to do something major on climate. the infrastructure bill, the bipartisan infrastructure bill which all of us voted for and we appreciate it actually is a net plus when it comes to carbon emissions. it goes in there one direction. but if you combine it with the build back better bill which used to have about half $1 trillion or the climate crisis,
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i'm ready to go. but those guarantees have to be solid. i don't know if we are going to have language in writing, but i want to know in writing that these are the elements that are promised, that we are going to have that in a reasonable time. that is the other thing i want to hear from the president. next week, next month, next year? joe manchin has set already a couple of times he would be ok to do this in 2022. we cannot wait. i want to know the timeline on this as well. i want to support the president. this is his bill. and i appreciate the leadership that he has offered. i want a guarantee for them that
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those things are going to happen. host: if you get the guarantee and guaranteed means that paid family leave and free community college are no longer part of the social spending bill, are you still going to vote yes? guest: i want to concentrate on what is in the bill, not what is not in the bill. it is still going to be transformative for the american people. most developed countries spend about $14,000 per year on childcare. united states, about $500. that means that women can't go back to work. mostly, women have been locked out of the marketplace because they can't afford the childcare and it is not available. those kinds of things are so incredibly important. i would be happy to vote for a
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bill that i still believe will be transformational for americans and change lives. when you have a child tax credit that we already know from the recovery act can reduce, in half, child poverty in the united states of america and make families hold, i am for that -- whole, i am for that. we will deal with those important issues at another time. host: political reporting "last night, senator sanders said it was inconceivable he would agree to deal -- to a deal currently structured. without sanders, there is still a les frank problem. -- left flank problem." guest: we are going to have a
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bill that is going to be so meaningful to the american people. i think we want to not hold out for things joe manchin has already said absolutely not. i want to continue to fight for paid leave. the american people really need it and deserve it. i want to make sure that we have done some -- dental care for seniors. but we are who make sure that whatever we do get, it will be a life changer, a game changer for american families. i host: want to invite our viewers to call in, ask you question republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. text as with your first name, city and state and we will include some of your questions in the conversation as well.
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what is the timeline that you understand if the president can get all the democrats in line that there would be a vote on infrastructure, and when with their vehicle on social spending? guest: i would love to go to the committee today and see if we can at least get on some sort of an outline that we can also vote on. look. i think that within the next week, legislative language could be written. it may take a week beyond that, but what i don't want to hear is that it is going to take a month or two months. we can't go into next year to wait for that. it has to be in the immediate future. i have to be able to see ahead to that. and it's not just the progressive caucus. we are looking, i believe, in the majority of the democratic
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caucus that we have to have both. both of those bills have to pass. and so it is not that one is going to be postponed until some unknown date. host: reporters are lining the hallways on capitol hill this morning. democratic lawmakers are making their way behind closed doors to meet resident biden. he is coming to capitol hill and these reports are that he has a deal in hand on the social spending proposal. congressman jan schakowsky, our guest this morning sharing her time with us. she will quickly have to make your way to that meeting as well. caller: i just want to know -- i was watching youtube late last night and i saw some videos
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where they took the pay from 12-14. now it is nothing. this bill is worthless, this build back better bill. totally worthless. it is up to you guys to vote down everything. because this isn't going to do nothing but give public utilities to corporations. host: congresswoman? guest: you know, i am all for -- and i totally agree with you, that paid family leave is a big element. and we pushed for that. but i want to also tell you that being able to have affordable health care to lower the cost of prescription drugs, there is so much still in this bill. we aren't going to give up this fight. i agree with you. and shame on joe manchin for saying absolutely, it is a
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no-brainer. you know what, he suggested that people who get leave, what are they going to do? they are going to just go out hunting. i don't even know what that means. that somehow, people are we are not forgetting about immigrants, either. which may or may not be in the
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bill. there is a lot on the agenda. we are going to keep pushing. host: leo in california, independent. go ahead, leo. caller: good morning. good morning, miss representative. i have a statement and then i have a question for you. my cola, for senior citizens, i'm 72, is 5%. that's supposedly the cost of living. my rent went up 4%. my gas prices doubled. my actual food costs when i go to the store is 25%. it's not 5% or 10%. it's 25%. now, that's $100 a month is what i get. that's the increase i get. i rent went up 4%. again i stated the cost of all the other increases. now, i don't see anything in the build back better plan that addresses the true cost that i
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am incurring. my medicare deduction on -- that i get went from $85 to $185. the cost of my drugs for the year have gone from $2,000 to $4,200. if you differentiate, this is a critical question, if you differentiate a senior citizen from a retired person, and you expand medicare, you are watering down the cost, you are increasing the cost to senior citizens on social security significantly, by expanding and giving money to people that are 55 years old. i don't disagree that we are in tough shape right now. the problem i'm running into is if you are willing to give $300 per child to a family, why don't
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you give $300-- -- would you be willing to take a bill to the floor and give a proper cola to people on social security? host: i'm going to have the congresswoman respond to you. guest: first of all we are not lowering the age of medicare eligibility or expanding medicare to 55-year-olds. we are talking about 65 when are you eligible for, and that is a senior citizen. i'm more in your category, so i understand entirely. but we are also going to make home and community-based services more available. we don't have a long-term care policy in this country. we are going to make eyeglasses, that's my understanding in there, and hearing aids accessible. those can be so very costly.
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you know that. at least i do. and also do something to have dental care available. i do also want you to know that many, many democrats, the majority of the democratic caucus just introduced a bill to expand social security. to raise the social security benefits for all americans. i agree that that cola does not really do the job. but the other thing is that i believe that when we pass a bill that is going to help families, that's going to create jobs, that is going to lower taxes for ordinary americans, that we are going to see the economy go better, that we are going to see that inflation is down, it is on its way down. and that -- and i agree, and i
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share the democratic task force aging -- chair the democratic task force aging and families. that's my primary interest in making sure we take care of our older americans. we are honest. and we are going to make sure that these kinds of things are affordable to you. that's really a promise that we have made through social security. we are going to make health care more affordable. we are going to make prescription drugs more affordable. i think it's going to be a real benefit to you personally in your budget. host: brad, savannah, georgia, democratic caller. caller: good morning, greta. good morning, representative. lifelong democrat and i live in savannah and this is a pretty red meat area. sometimes tough to be a democrat here. but having said that, i don't understand -- this is a procedural point. the infrastructure bill we need.
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i understand why the things in that bill are grouped together. what i don't understand is in the build back better plan -- i agree with many, many of the provisions in it -- why you can't separate it out other than the reconciliation process. that's how you put poison pills into bills. i understand that's how the process works. but i would force every member of the senate and the house of representatives to give an up and down vote on line items. because i have found in talking to the many, many republicans down here that 90% of it they agree with. and we have a republican congressman here, congressman carter. i would force that guy to vote up or down and then have to defend why. i think that would be a better approach. i would just like to hear your comments on that procedural question. guest: i don't agree with that because i'm on the budget committee and i have heard time and time again the republicans
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talking about benefits for ordinary americans. to talk against any kind of effort to ask the wealthiest americans to pay their fair share. we have seen over and over again in the united states senate zero republicans voting. if we could get just 10 more republicans voting for the elements of the build back better bill, we would have it. they are not for it. mitch mcconnell has made it absolutely clear, and he rules those republicans in the senate with an iron hand, and the voice of donald trump is in their ears. they are not supporting these things. believe me. if we could have bipartisanship, even on individual votes, i have been on those votes when i was
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in the minority. and they fail because the republicans will not vote for these programs. i wish what you were saying is true. i wish the friends that you have, the republican party, were majority of republicans in the senate and in the house. it's not going to happen. that's the only reason why we are going to reconciliation as a way for democrats to pass these bills. and we do have this very slim majority, majority still ought to rule in this country. but we have set up this undemocratic process in the senate where they can filibuster, they can add another 10 votes are required to pass something. it's not going to happen. i wish it were. it's not. host: springfield, oregon. richard a republican. your turn. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. with all due respect kill the
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bill, save america. because you guys want to cram everything down our throats before 2022, before we have a chance to equally have a say in this. and what you are doing -- i already am going under because of all the money you have spent. and i can't afford anymore spending on this -- these bills. not only that, i agree with the previous caller. you link these two bills together because you know that one of them will not stand on its own. even democratically it won't stand. host: let's get a response. congresswoman. guest: actually the cost of this bill to the treasury is act leigh -- actually zero, because we pay for it. we pay for it by asking the wealthiest americans to pay
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more. and you have seen some of those names, these are people who not often not only pay zero in taxes, but sometimes get a refund in their taxes. and by lowering the cost of prescription drugs, which is not only good for consumers, but good for the u.s. budget because medicare, medicaid, the veterans administration we pay for those drugs. so we -- the costs will be zero to the u.s. treasury. and therefore it's not going to raise your taxes one penny. but it's going to change the lives of americans who need to have some support for their government. just as you saw during the pandemic how with our rescue act we spared so many families from total economic disaster. and that's the goal we have.
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host: congresswoman, 8:55a.m. eastern time, do you know how the wealthy are going to pay? guest: that's part of the problem. i want to hear what the pay-fors are. one day we hear manchin is for something. then sinema is not for that. then they agree for about five minutes and then it's gone. let the president tell us today, i look forward to that i'm looking forward to going to that meeting with him. host: here's some more reporting this morning. biden may have a framework but it isn't enough for progressives. an aide says manchinema combined have loosely said ok to a very general broad framework, but that they will not get commit to voting for the bill. that's exactly why we need all parties fully agree to the bill text. that a quote from the progressive. caller: well, if that's what they are saying right now that there is no commitment from them, that's been the problem for months now. if we can't get some sort of a
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commitment from them, then i don't see how we can move this process forward. they are the ones. i don't want to hear about progressives being blamed. or democrats being blamed for stalling this. there are two people right now in the senate. if they make a commitment, we are on. if they don't, how can we go forward? host: if this falls apart, what would you like to see happen with senator manchin and senator sinema as far as their party affiliation? guest: certainly i think they are -- they are going to be up for elections before too long. not this cycle. i think that the voters ought to say, enough games. we have had enough of you. and to look for other employment. host: they should lose their seats? guest: pardon me? host: you thid they should lose their seats? guest: i do. raymond in south carolina. independent.
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caller: thank you for taking my call. representative, i'm all for some of the stuff such as the lowering the prescriptions. i don't take bye one pill a day. i believe there are people out there that could help be benefited by that. what gets me is raise their kids. i raised my kids through hard work. i never asked nobody for any help whatsoever. i did it on my own. my wife did not work. i don't know why people had kids if they can't afford them. number two, why do you all always just talk about what people would be interested in in the bill rather than -- a lot of stuff in there people are not interested in. one, is the money you all are going to spend on the illegals. i want someone to explain exactly what that money is going to do. host: congresswoman. guest: the president made it very clear that he wants to now transform the economy to make it
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grow from the bottom up, from the middle out, middle class, and not just what we have seen in the past which has been we are going to give takes which -- tax breaks which we did during the trump administration to the very wealthiest americans. we want to change that model and to say that we want to help, not put money in the pockets, just put money in the pockets of ordinary americans, but give an even playing field. you said you were able to work. when you have a minimum wage at the federal level of $7.25 an hour, and a tip wage of $2.13 an hour, we see people who work 40 hours a week, maybe more, double-shifts and still lift below the poverty level.
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these are the kinds of things that we want to remedy to make sure that we do things to help lift wages, to allow for workers to organize so they can bargain for higher wages and better working conditions. we can do better for ordinary americans. the wage gap has been growing in the united states of america. particularly for people of color and people who live in low-income communities. we can do better for everyone. let this be an economy that works for everyone. not just for the wealthiest. that is the goal of this president. i applaud him for that. host: pennsylvania, democratic caller. caller: yes, good morning. representative, i think joe biden's doing the best he can with all the democrats. i get social security of

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