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next, look at how cities are addressing climate change with los angeles mayor eric garcetti, atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms, and the madison mayor. this is one hour and 40 minutes. rep. castor: members are responsible for their own microphones. documents must submitted to the repository. finally, witnesses experiencing
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technical difficulties should inform committee staff immediately. let's get started. good afternoon, welcome. thank you for joining this remote hearing. today we are going to talk about cities and states working to protect their communities and how to increase resilience to climate impacts. i recognize myself for five minutes for an opening statements. members, as congress continues to work on much-needed infrastructure and jobs legislation, the climate crisis keeps proving we need generational investments that will create a stronger and more resilient america. as we speak, the west is facing a record-setting mega drought, increasing risks of dangerous p waves and wildfires, and shrinking water supplies for millions of americans. severe storms, persisting
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drought, flooding and other climate related disasters caused -- cost foundation nearly $100 billion in 2020 alone. america's experienced -- america experienced a devastating storm in texas and a devastating flood in the southeast bid we don't have time for half measures. time to invest in resilience is now. the building blocks are resilient community and partnerships between federal, regional, state, local and tribal governments. it is up to congress to help build those strong partnerships with smart investments and a shared vision for a net zero future. that's what we will focus on today. we are joined by an exceptional group of leaders from american cities and regions to help us chart that path. they know that we do not
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experience the climate crisis in the same way and climate risk makes social, racial and economic inequities worse. communities of color and working-class communities are the greatest risk when it comes to disasters and they often have less capacity to adapt. just this week, the new york times highlighted how fema's disaster relief efforts often help white communities more than communities of color, even when the amount of damage in neighborhoods is a similar. that's why climate action must also create opportunities and strive for environmental justice that will protect everyday americans regardless of their zip code and skin color. america's mayors understand these challenges. in madison, wisconsin, the mayor is showing us how to invest in clean energy while also creating prosperity in underserved communities. through her green power
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initiative, she has trained diverse workers to install over a megawatt of solar energy on municipal facilities. we have seen important progress in los angeles, where mayor eric garcetti launched a plan to increase community zillions, and to bring the cities have a structure into the 21st century. in atlanta, the nation's 10th largest economy, the mayor has pioneered innovative, resilient financing tools and committed to 100% clean energy by 2035. all while working to address social inequity and climate adaptation. in the mississippi river basin, states are working with federal partners to respond to the changes in rainfall and flooding. these are just a few of the success stories across america. now it is time for congress to enact ambitious, transformational legislation to
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help communities large and small protect himself. -- protected themselves, their citizens and budgets. unless congress acts, america will be faced with unsafe roads, worsening flooding and power outages. the costs and risks are growing. that's why we are here, to pass the american jobs plan, which will make investments in resilience as we work toward fulfilling president biden's vision of solving the climate crisis. the american jobs plan gives us a historic opportunity to modernize our infrastructure and our electric grid so we are better prepared when climate disasters strike. it gives us a chance to put people to work and good paying jobs, expanding opportunities and prosperity across the board, and reducing carbon pollution that continues to warm the planet. i look forward to hearing from witnesses today as they tell us
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what they need to continue to build climate resilient communities. thank you for being here and i look forward to our conversation. at this time, i will yield to the ranking member for five minutes for his opening statement. >> thank you viewed good morning -- thank you. good morning. chair, thank you for your opening statement. it is an area where the issues we've been trying to address, resilience challenges something we share, being from a south louisiana, talking about recovery programs, i think just last year we had seven named storms that affected our state, five of them directly affecting our state. in 2016, we had a thousand year flood. extraordinary damages, and if we are going to talk about recovery, as well, congress provided $1.7 billion in the aftermath of that 2016 flood.
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i am very sad to say that after more than four years, only $667 million of 1.7 billion has been offered, not granted, offered to flood victims, many of which still don't have homes and are living in conditions -- this is in america. it is unacceptable and i am going to go on a quick tangent, but all of might republican and democrat friends on here today, there were bills to reauthorize the community development block grant disaster recovery program and i don't know a person -- and madam chair, black, white, nobody is benefiting from a program that is as an efficient as that one. let me get back on track. it doesn't matter what city you are from, whether you are from atlanta, madison, l.a., it
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doesn't matter where you are from, the worst thing in the world we can do is continue relying on recovery from disasters. it makes so much more sense to be resilient on the front end, to adapt and make proactive investments and ensuring the resilience of our communities, and that means economic resilience and zillions in our safety and ecological productivity. all of these comprise resilience. as the chair noted, we have seen extraordinary dollars often wasted. i say wasted in the aftermath of disaster, because there could've been things on the front and that would've been so much less expensive and prevented communities from being destroyed. on the federal level, and in the united states, the most powerful country in the world, we often look at climate and resilience on a macro level. i am excited to have you here today because you are the
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practitioners, you are on the ground trying to figure out what does this look like? what does implementing resilience look like? mayor garcetti, i quoted you at a market session just yesterday or the day before, where you came before the house transportation committee and said the republican is only a democrat that has been through the fema process you are exactly right. when i say you all are on the job and doing the execution of these macrolevel programs, we have got to talk about how we can put together a project development and execution process that reflects the urgency many of you are facing. the example i cited in the louisiana, that it was supposed to be an emergency recovery program, this is our own
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government re-victimizing our own citizens. that is unacceptable. if we are going to execute on the infrastructure, if we are going to execute specifically on resilience and adaptation, if we are going to work to prepare our energy solution for the next generation, we have got to have a project development and delivery process that reflects the urgency and challenges we are facing. a quick preview of what i am interested in hearing about, not necessarily the opening statements but questions, you guys are on the ground executing with people talk about macro issues. i am curious to hear you talk a little bit about you go in and execute, how are you looking at -- return on investment and the actions that you think are most powerful and that most fit your
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own community. i am excited to be here and have you all joining us today. i yield back. rep. castor: thank you very much. without objection, witnesses that wish to have opening statements on the record have five business days to do so. we will hear from cities and original group on efforts to confront the climate crisis, including work to reduce climate disaster risks, foster community innovation and leadership and solve and to ensure that no community is left behind. the chair recognizes representative brownlee of california to introduce the honorable mayor eric garcetti. rep. brownlee: thank you for allowing me to introduce the mayor of los angeles, mayor garcetti. mayor garcetti is truly a climate rock star. as mayor of l.a. the past eight years, he has undertaken countless initiatives to make the city more climate resilient,
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from his plan to make l.a. run on 100% clean energy by 2035 to his programs to provide equitable shade and cooling for low income angelenos, los angeles is a microcosm of some of the worst risks posed by climate change from extreme drought to wildfires, while also being a laboratory of some of our best opportunities to fight back, including the installation of cool pavement and innovative ways to include solar technology. mayor garcetti continues to be a leader both in the united states and abroad and created the climate mayors network of nearly 500 bipartisan american mayors, and by chairing the climate leaders group made up of 97 of the world's megacities. on behalf of the select committee, let me also thank you, mr. mayor, for providing
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your insights to our committee, particularly as we put together our climate plan in congress. our committee and our country thank you for all you continue to do to fight the crisis. rep. castor: thank you. next, i recognize myself for the next introduction. mayor conway has made climate change a central focus of her administration. mayor rose conway is also the current co-chair of climate mayors, a bipartisan network of more than 475 mayors demonstrating climate leadership across the country.
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the honorable keisha lance bottoms is the mayor of atlanta, and launched her one atlanta vision for an affordable city. through the cities clean energy atlanta plan, she has committed the nation's 10th largest economy to transition to 100% clean energy by 2035. kirsten wallace is the executive director for the upper mississippi river basin association. it is a five state interstate organization formed by the governors of illinois, iowa, minnesota, surrey and wisconsin, to coordinate river related programs and policies and work with federal agencies that have river responsibility. in her position, ms. wallace
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develops positions, advocates before congress and federal agencies, and facilitates and fosters interagency coordination, cooperation and communication. without objection, the witnesses's open statement will be made part of the record. mayor garcetti, you are recognized for five minutes. welcome. mayor garcetti: thank you so much. it is wonderful to be with you and the entire committee. one of the last times i was here pre-pandemic was with you, and i enjoyed sitting down and being able to talk to a bipartisan group of folks. it was a bipartisan perspective. i am honored to be here with my sister mayors. i know mike levin, too, is part of this committee.
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california strong. thank you for your service. i will give you a quote, representative graves. someone once asked john f. kennedy what it was like being president, and he said it's the best job in the world, just not right now. i think all of us in public service feel these are the best jobs in the world, maybe just not right now. let's stick with it and keep serving people together. i will cut to the chase. you know los angeles is on the frontline of this climate crisis. you see you in the wildfires, which is now not just a season of a few months but virtually year-round. you can feel it in the droughts that we all are experiencing in the western united states. you can see it in the heat that literally is taking lives. we cannot forget that. every time we get extreme heat, we lose seniors, we lose poor folks who do not have their hvac system. we are seeing american lives at stake. we need to survive and i would say we need to compete.
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there's a lot of jobs, and a lot of innovation. i'm so proud of both houses of congress looking at what we can do to invest in key industries and artificial intelligence and all the things we have seen some of our competitors doing around the world. this is also a place where it is not just about our health and survival but about the survival of our economy and region. -- and our vision. even if you thought this was not a climate emergency, this would be a time to lead in transportation and energy, so it is great to see a bipartisan group really looking and listening. i would say what we need first foremost the bold ambition of something like the american jobs program. i think a lot of people think that is just washington, d.c., with too much money raining down and telling local communities what to do. i see a different picture. i see washington listening to what local communities are doing. states, counties, cities, regions.
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they are the ones who have to come up with solutions to save lives and save livelihoods. it really is cities leading the charge in this, but we need your leadership as well. i will give you some examples of how that partnership occurs between local communities and federal governments. our national renewable energy laboratory based in colorado did the first study in the world to look at how we can help los angeles, which owns of the largest municipal utility in the country, get to 100% renewable power. 10 million scenarios using super curators -- supercomputers and some of the best scientists in the world, and a study which we released earlier in the year shows we can get there. we can be 95% carbon free by the end of this decade and 100% by 2035. we could not do it without local dollars and national innovation and help. we are making unmatched investments in water infrastructure. as you read about the hoover dam and lake mead at its lowest level ever potentially, how we can recycle enough water, and
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if you have seen the movie chinatown, it is three times bigger than the aqueduct we built last century. innovation and technology around water invasion. the american jobs plan follow suit. it goes all in on water innovations. it goes all in on energy by helping us support grid updates and ramping up our resilience , the word that you used, extreme weather events and creating a steady flow of power. in l.a., we recognize that buildings, too, are the biggest emitters of greenhouse gases. the american jobs plan tackles that challenge, making historic commitments to public schools, public housing, greener buildings everywhere. we have to look at this as an equity issue, if it is where we plant trees for shade for a senior who cannot going get herself groceries because it is too hot, or the student who by the time she gets home has a headache from the heat and does not do her homework because she can't and drops out of school.
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this is about human beings, not programs and policies. this is not about dollars but about lives. i'm so excited to be part of this conversation. i look forward to answering your questions along some my fellow mayors. thank you so much. rep. castor: thank you, mayor. next, mayor rhodes-conway, your 're recognized. mayor rhodes-conway: thank you so much for inviting me to discuss the importance of climate action. i am proud to be mayor of madison, wisconsin, home to over a quarter million people, the wisconsin state capital and home to the flagship campus of the university of wisconsin. i also serve as cochair of climate errors, a network of mayors serving 476 u.s. cities who are committed to this work. chair castor, we really appreciate your engagement with us last year. cities are struggling with challenges including the global pandemic, climate change, and a legacy of centuries of inequitable policymaking, but we
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have the opportunity to recover and rebuild in a more just, resilient, and sustainable way. we need the support of the federal government now to overcome barriers, resource innovation, and scale solutions. our changing climate exacerbates pre-existing challenges and creates new risks for every city in the united states. madison is facing warmer summers , more precipitation and more extreme storms, among other impacts. warmer summers create dangerous urban heat island impacts. heat is leading cause of weather related deaths. we saw a 47% increase in heat-related emergencies between 2010 and 2014, and by mid century, we expect the number of extremely hot days the triple and the number of extremely hot nights to quadruple. many older buildings in wisconsin lack air conditioning. they have poor insulation and
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soak in heat through asphalt roofs. the technology exists to reduce these heat impacts and we have started a program to make energy efficient upgrades in apartment buildings, but without additional resources, we can only reach a fraction of the apartments in madison. and these buildings need more than just energy upgrades. the wetter climate leads to wetter basements, contributing to mold growth. parents risk investigation if they report that mold. we are investigating ways to add mold remediation to our resources, but it will take -- mold remediation, but it will take resources. madison is experiencing more rain and more severe storms. wisconsin has 15% more rainfall annually now than in 1950, and precipitation is expected to increase by another 15% by mid
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century. madison experienced a thousand-year flood in 2018, which cost $154 million in damage. that flood was a wake-up call. we are undertaking 23 watershed studies across the city to determine how to prevent flooding and mitigate catastrophic events. we have identified $75 million worth of necessary projects in just the first four studies. to prevent flooding, we must make investments in storage and stormwater system capacity. i believe our best solutions to the crisis address climate change holistically, mitigating risks while supporting our city and both local and national economy. we must build infrastructure that withstands the impact of a changing climate, and ensure residents have resources to manage stressors like higher temperatures and crises like flooding in their homes and communities.
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all these solutions require extensive resources. the federal government support for these local efforts could be transformational. cities would welcome investments through existing funding streams , including the doe block grant program, hud's community block grant program, home investment partnerships, the fta facilities program and the capital investment grant program, but policymakers should also update these programs to make these funds more flexible or create new programs that enable cities to address a multitude of needs without silos. climate change is the defining challenge of our time. cities need the federal government to support our ability to innovate, to clear away barriers, and to bring viable solutions to scale. we have less than a decade to make a difference. thank you for your congressional action plan for a green economy. thank you for your action today, but thank you more for your action.
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rep. castor: thank you very much, mayor. next we go to mayor bottoms. welcome. mayor bottoms: thank you, madam chair, and the distinguished committee, and to my fellow mayors. it is an honor to join you today. atlanta is the center of a metropolitan area of more than 6 million people. it is often said that all roads lead through atlanta, and it you visit, you will be faced with that harsh reality when you hit our infamous bumper-to-bumper traffic, probably only second to traffic you will experience in los angeles. it is a visual reminder of how concentrated our population has become. 83% of americans now live in urban centers. as such, cities like atlanta can serve as a microcosm of issues affecting the entire country like climate change. over the past years, we have all
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faced unprecedented challenges, a global pandemic punctuated by a racial justice reckoning, and economic downturn, spikes in crime, and a once-in-a-lifetime election. no one escaped 2020 unscathed, and for that reason, many have called covid-19 the great equalizer, but i don't believe that is true at all. in fact, covid has only exacerbated the vast inequities that exist within our society, inequities that are further inflamed by a climate crisis that disproportionately affects our most vulnerable communities. as we make the much needed turn toward recovery and think about what it means to build back better, we cannot ignore the role that climate justice must play in our plans for the future. this committee understands better than anyone how complex these issues truly are. almost every challenge we face in the mayor's office, if it
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is structured challenges, unemployment, affordable housing, can be connected to climate change. that's why the solution must be as intersectional as the problem. when i became mayor of atlanta, i set forth a mission for one atlanta, a more affordable, resilient, and equitable city for all. central to that vision are collaborative, bold, innovative ideas that address climate change, create economic opportunity, and confront injustice head-on. that is why we are committed to 100% clean energy by 2035 and sustainable food access to as many as possible. we also established a community-led clean energy advisory board in the american -- and joined the american cities climate challenge. work like this requires targeted investments in american cities to build out our nation's sustainable infrastructure to
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create well-paying jobs and to support a resilient, clean energy future. in any infrastructure and economic recovery package, we also urge you to prioritize and expand programs responsible directly to cities and the federal government, prioritize local government processes for federal funds that flow to the state to include accountability, ensure federal funding prioritizes disadvantage communities and allows efficient implementation to meet local needs, ensure that it spending is accompanied by workforce standards that prioritize job quality and equitable access to well-paying, high road careers. cities face specific challenges unique to their geographical areas and therefore require flexible funding, direct grants,
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block grants, etc., that allows cities to address their distinct challenges efficiently and innovatively while remaining accountable to grant requirements. while i sit here today in my capacity as mayor, first and foremost, i am a mother. a mother of four children with asthma. two weeks ago, i sat in a doctor's office with my son who has asthma, as the doctor shared with me that his office has been flooded with children because the air quality was so poor two weeks ago in atlanta. i know how climate can affect real people in everyday lives. we are dealing with it in my household. this is not an esoteric problem we face as elected officials. it is a real-world crisis that has already hit home for people around the world. passage of the american jobs
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plan including direct support to , cities who build a more equitable and resilient country, and your action will save lives. thank you for the opportunity to join you today. rep. castor: thank you very much, mayor. next, ms. wallace, you are recognized for your testimony. ms. wallace: chair castor and committee thank you very much. , i appreciate today's opportunity to underscore the value in investing in the economic vitality and economic integrity of the mississippi river. the governors of illinois, missouri and wisconsin want to facilitate water resources planning and cooperative action. the premise for our ongoing work to enhance economical and ecological resilience is science, collaboration, and planning will lead us toward regional resilience. we know that water, the amount
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flowing through the river, the duration that remains high or low, the rate of change between high levels and low levels greatly influences the river's resilience. science is the fundamental priority. we have over 30 years of continuous monitoring to the upper mississippi river restoration program that allows us to quantify the ecosystem's resilience. in other words, the capacity to sustain its fundamental characteristics. continuing this monitoring will allow us to make scientific observations about how the climate is affecting the river ecosystem and how species might use the river's longitudinal orientation might be used to address changes to their advantage. we have ongoing planned efforts to increase our knowledge of climate change risks, including forecasting capabilities. our goal is to integrate the natural and social sciences to evaluate the effectiveness of
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potential action while considering the social, economic, and ecological dimension of the problems and opportunities. this includes developing detailed assessments of the river's current and future needs for flood conveyance and storage, and measuring drought onset magnitude. major river systems require a sense of unity and shared commitment to solutions. unity requires an appreciation of neighbors and conflicting interests and, knowledge of the resources and opportunities, that it also requires a shared vision of the future and a plan to achieve that future. while a local planning is incredibly important to the unique characteristics of each individual community, the interconnectedness among stakeholders across the watershed calls for regional planning. achieving resilience will reside in our ability to work together. the issues are personal and
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involve people's families, homes, and livelihoods. but as indicative of the past, collective planning will lead to solutions that are carried forward for decades and have lasting benefits. i would like to discuss robust solutions for adapting to and mitigating the effects of climate change. the upper mississippi river restoration program restores the natural mosaic of channels and backwater, increases quantity, quality, and diversity of habitat wildlife. the sustainably -- sustainability program encourages a plan to meet current and future shipping demands by modernizing the locks system and improving the health and resilience of the river ecosystem. we respectfully request continue d support for these two programs with new construction starts for
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the navigation and ecosystem sustainability program. the health, function, and viability of the mississippi river reflects the performance of the watershed as a whole and it is widely acknowledged action must be taken in the watershed while important strides in conservation practices and point and nonpoint loading reduction have achieved attaining the , goals we have collectively set will require acceleration of implementation. we respectfully request an increase in federal support for the ongoing implementation of the state's reduction strategies including improving utilization of existing programs. finally, we are serving as an entity of collective action to build the resilience of the upper mississippi river through major flood events, full on drought, and excessive sediment through a unified sweep of strategies and actions that
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would be implemented through a broad range of processes. we believe that the science of collaboration and planning on the upper mississippi river can serve as a model for other regions of the country and other floodplain systems across the world. we would appreciate an opportunity to continue working with you. thank you. rep. castor: thank you, and thank you to all of our witnesses for your insightful and informative testimony. next we go to member questions. i'm going to start and yield my time to representative escobar of texas. you are recognized for five minutes. rep. escobar: thank you so much, madam chair, and many thanks to our panelists. i know we are in this struggle together. i represent el paso, texas, and i come to you from the safe and secure u.s.-mexico border community that is in the middle of the chihuahua desert, also
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dealing with issues around drought, extreme heat, and we are seeing more and more days of temperatures well above 100. yesterday this week, we are at 108. we are rapidly becoming as hot as communities like phoenix and tucson that have dealt with extreme heat for long periods of time, and we are dealing also with shrinking amounts of water in the rio grande, so we are all in this catastrophic struggle together. sorry, when i say mayor, there's three of you who will nod. mayor garcetti, i have been looking into the work los angeles has done, specifically on solar. we have -- you all heard about what happened in texas' eastern
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grid. el paso is on the western grade, -- grid, so we were exempt from the terrible consequences of what happened with the grid in the rest of texas, and we have a utility -- el paso electric is about to build or is seeking to build a power plant that will utilize natural gas. many in the community have been pushing on the utility to go solar instead of creating what could be at some point a stranded asset -- that's how secretary john kerry has deemed some of these stranded assets in the future. many are calling on them to just move toward solar. what we hear back is the challenge is storage.
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and the capacity is still not there. i would love to hear about what you did, what is happening in los angeles, and how you charted that path. mayor garcetti: thank you very much. my grandfather crossed the chihuahuan desert to come to this country. it is wonderful to have it evokes. you are right, it is a more complicated power so's -- power source. we faced three major climate problems. one is massive solar rays. the biggest solar storage project is under way right now, and it is cheaper than a new gas plant, so the cost is effective. second, we have a plan that allows huge warehouses and other buildings to become powerplants for us, and our utility pays
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them. and we are looking increasingly at storage and building out the grid will accommodate much more generation. we had massive wildfires. los angeles city never had outages because of that, but we came within a percent or two of needing to have some blackouts in order to manage our electricity. i would say this one of the ways , you can look at solar is battery storage. that gets you through a day or two. it is is not long-term. we are also looking at excess wind and solar through some of the lines that come in from utah , and looking for green hydrogen. we put out an rfi to storing hydrogen, but create that using excess solar under our biggest power plant in utah. there are salt caverns the size of the empire state building, about seven of them, and we are looking at running turbines with a combination of natural gas and hydrogen, trying to get all the way to hydrogen. so it is a way to store solar
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production and wind production in something, where if you are like our city and you might need weeks of power, that will be much more dependable. it is a combination of different types of power, different types of storage, and looking at excess solar and putting that into usable fuel as well. >> thank you so much. chairwoman, thank you so much for yielding to me your time. appreciate it. i yield back. rep. castor: next, representative graves, i understand you are yielding to representative palmer? ok, representative palmer, you are recognized for five minutes. rep. palmer: i thank the gentleman for referring to me. it would have been helpful if you told me ahead of time, but we will discuss that internally next time. i am very glad that we are having this discussion about dealing with mega drought, and i saw chair castor smile at that
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reference to garrett graves. i think it's time we look at efforts we need to be making in terms of resilience. as i've tried to point out on this committee many times, climate has a history. california, for instance, has a history of mega drought. there have been at least four mega droughts over the last 1200 years that have had enormously severe impacts. the one california is in right now has a severe impact, and what i would like to ask mayor garcetti is looking at california -- the state of california's water policies and their failure to prepare adequately for the drought that you are in right now should be a great concern to all the mayors in california. we had a major wet period in 2019, record amounts of snowfall. i think the snowpack was
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something like 153%, yet because of the failure to prepare for the wet periods, you are really struggling in terms of your water capacity. how would you respond to that? mayor garcetti: sure, a couple of things. one is it does not resonate much in the city of los angeles because we have been preparing for a long time and it is not just a switch you can flip either way. -- flip right away. we build out a ton of capture, so the snowpack made its way down into the los angeles river and other places, we now have huge cache basins and the ability to re-infiltrate that water into our natural aquifers. as i mentioned, we are taking something times three times bigger than the l.a. aqueduct, by taking our wastewater plants, 60% of our water gets moved through and washed out into the ocean, and we are converting
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that into something that will give us enough water for decades to come, but i hear what you are saying. i do believe local, state, and federal governments should be investing in that infrastructure . rep. palmer: i want to ask questions of other members, but i appreciate the point you just made. we do need to be investing. california should have been doing this. i don't think there has been a new reservoir built in california since 1979. it would not only give you water capacity but it would also help mitigate the flooding you guys went through a couple of years ago. ms. wallace, the same thing with the mississippi basin. there were thriving mississippian cultures throughout the mississippi river basin up until between 1200 and 1500, and they began to disappear largely because of prolonged drought.
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what we are experiencing with climate change is not new. in your work, how are you preparing for the climate change that is coming that we cannot do anything about, or are you taking that into account, or have you looked into the history of climate in the region? >> yes, and we are continuing to do that, knowing what has happened, that history. there's a few things we are trying to do to prepare ourselves for the future and act now. we are working on our science. the u.s. geological survey now has a next generation water program which intensely monitors a basin. one is the illinois river basin --
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>> i'm very happy you are doing that. i've only got a few seconds left, and i want to bring this up. i grew up dirt poor in rural alabama, and i'm concerned. there was an article that was in "the new york times" that california's water programs are mainly benefiting the rich. i have serious concerns about energy poverty in atlanta. atlanta has the third highest rate of energy poverty in the country among u.s. major cities. same thing is true in los angeles, and i'm sure you are milieu with that article. mayor garcetti, i hope that in your clean energy plans, you are taking into account that little income families need access to reliable energy. mayor garcetti: no question. we are able to do that with probably the strongest low income assistance because we
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share that together. we have different rates, huge subsidies, and thanks to federal action, we have utility assistance from this pandemic that we have all been taking some of our coronavirus relief funds directly into low income utility assistance, and finally, we put solar on the homes of low income residents because it should not be something you just cannot afford to do. it has to be done for and by and with all americans. >> i think we are out of time, but maybe we will be able to come back and the mayor can answer during another member's time. >> thank you to our witnesses. here in the pacific northwest, we know that climate change is not a distant threat, it is a reality. last summer, nearly a million acres burned across my home state as a result of dry fuel
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conditions. lives were lost, towns were destroyed, and air quality surpassed hazardous levels across the state in the region. i'm extremely concerned by recent outlooks from the national interagency fire center that suggested the lack of rain or snow could result in yet another horrific wildfire season. today, building standards do not take future climate trends into account, and current levels of infrastructure investment are not enough to respond to the threats of the climate crisis. we can truly learn from local leadership about addressing the climate crisis while making our communities more resilient. mayor garcetti, in your testimony, you noted the importance of energy efficiency upgrades in creating the same jobs, reducing emissions, and improving air filtration. what are the current barriers for local governments in retrofitting public links that can serve as shelters during wildfires or extreme heat events, and how can the federal
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government better incentivize weatherization and other programs to meet the needs of communities often devastated by wildfires? >> that is a great, great question. giving us the funds to be able to look at not just building but reducing and conserving is important. we control our own utility. we do not have to negotiate with a private utility owner, but we install insulation for folks. we do have cold weather here, too, sometimes. obviously for the warm weather days. these sorts of things which can be co-owned the federal government or incentivized by the federal government would go huge ways. it is usually pennies on the dollar for building out these things. we certainly have seen our energy use go dramatically down per capita in the city of los angeles, and i would encourage the federal government to look at what they can do in other communities. >> thank you so much.
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mayor rose-conway, you mentioned the challenge of harmful algorithms. i know this is an issue that is a concern across the country. we face similar challenges across freshwater ecosystems in northwest oregon, so how can natural infrastructure investments help address runoff and improve water equality to address future events? >> thank you, representative. this is a serious issue for the city of madison. we are surrounded by lakes, and it is no question that our changing climate is exacerbating this problem with both more runoff and higher temperatures that make the algae grow faster. we are looking at -- i mentioned the stormwater studies we are doing. we are looking at how we can build green infrastructure to slow that runoff and to infiltrate more water, and to clean the water that does end up in our lakes. we spend a tremendous amount of time and energy on this, if it
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is managing the leaves that fall in the autumn and keeping them out of the lakes or helping people to build their own rain gardens in their front lawns in the terraces. honestly, the scale of the investment is beyond us that is needed. we really do need support from the federal government here. in just our first 4 watershed studies and looking at a combination of both green and grey infrastructure improvements, we are already at 75 million dollars, which is an absolutely unprecedented level. i will take the opportunity to mention, representative, that while i appreciate the funding, we actually do not need more opportunity to borrow. what we need is direct grants from the federal government in order to make these investments. >> thank you very much, mayor. i'm going to use the remainder of my time to ask mayor
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lance-bottoms to finish answering the question. >> we try to put equity at the center of everything we do. when you look at a map of our city, you will see the energy burden primarily rests with communities that are lower income communities of color, so what has been very helpful to us in atlanta and even having the very complicated discussion about climate change is to speak to our communities in ways that it makes sense and it's impacting their day-to-day lives. we speak of it in terms of how it impacts asthma. we have some of the highest asthma rates for children in our city. as i'm speaking with seniors like my mother, i'm speaking in terms of how much they pay each month for their utility bills. it becomes a much easier conversation and gives us the opportunity to have broader buy-in than if we speak of it in
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very complicated, hard to understand terms. >> thank you, mayor. i see my time has expired. i yelled back, madam chair. >> through a fortunate set of circumstances, two of my best friends in a whole world live in atlanta, so i have what i consider the pleasure of spending and amount of time in that city, and i think some of the congestion is because everything seems to be located on peachtree. even my gps gives up at certain points in time. i appreciate we are talking about community resiliency and talking about the upper mississippi river basin. not all community resiliency exists in large cities. those of you on the committee have known that i bring this up a lot. north dakota understands firsthand as well as anyone
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problems posed by severe weather, drought, or flooding. even now in our state, we got 2/3 of our state getting what is known as a historical drought, and the other third of our state, we got 12 inches of rain the other day. the last thing, we need to finance these things and fund these things, and part of the issue, and we have experienced this, is the federal policy that dictates how to address these colleges while leaving little room for involvement at the state and local level. we are in the process of building one of the largest army corps of engineers project in the country. this was made possible by having multiple levels of government involved in participating in the project. it is not always easy, though. in 2011 -- we are a dam-controlled river system, and we had a flood of our capital city on a dam-controlled river
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system, and if you ask anybody in the communities associated with this, they will say the army corps of engineers worries too much in the spring about the pike and not enough about getting water downstream. you mentioned someone bringing together local stakeholders and supporting regional efforts. can you speak to the involvement of the federal government, both good and bad, in resilience and what works well and what needs reform? mayor lance bottoms: that is one of the biggest challenges, we need everybody to understand each other. one thing we were able to do in 2019 in partnership with the army corps of engineers, we tried a unique way of holding meetings where we let the community set the agenda. we had extraordinary feedback from people who reside in cities
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and confirmation interest, and they even said to each other, i'm so glad i met you in person and i can put a race to the issue and understand what you are saying better. i think that is one major step forward that we can address. science can tell us one thing, but it will be up to the people to tell us what is best for their communities. one challenge i might mention working with the army corps of engineers is we find these great solutions and want to partner with them, the corps does have challenges in partnership agreements. that is because they require the nonfederal sports are to fully indemnify the core in perpetuity and under our changing climate, that does not accents. if we work with congress to
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change that, that would be a really big deal. >> we have a school being built in bismarck as far north and away from the river as you can possibly be, and we are about i think seven months behind on a corps of engineers watershed project. it is an acre and a half. we cannot get our school bill because we cannot get a federal permit. some of the frustrations exist, and it is not a cost issue. like i said, when you deal with engineers in some of these controversial projects, without the corps of engineers' involvement, we just could not get them done. we do appreciate them on that and and sometimes on the other end. we all want to ensure proper environmental protection, but there continue to be problems with the proper roles of federal, state, and local governments. do you have an opinion on that in 19 seconds?
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ms. wallace: in 19 seconds, i would say that we agreed that environmental review is important. >> i would end by saying funding these projects is important, but being able to get them in the ground and started in a reasonable amount of time will not only help our communities but will help save money. with that, i yelled back. chair castor: thank you. next, we go to representative huffman. representative huffman: thank you, madam chair, for once again putting together an interesting and important hearing. mayor rhodes-conway, i want to thank you for making an important point. we are talking about resiliency and adaptation mainly today. in all of the different impacts that we tackle, if it is trying to keep our coral reefs alive or kelp forests in california or to manage the wildland interface against the scourge of wildfires
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or protecting coastal communities against rising sea levels, we have to innovate, we have to adapt, we have to do all of that, but if we do not tackle decarbonization at the same time, the conditions will become so much worse, and eventually we will not be able to adapt and find resiliency. i think you made that point quite well, and i thank you for doing that. mayor garcetti thanks for bringing us the water side of the resilience and adaptation leadership that you have sown -- shown. california water is complicated, and we do hear a lot of misconceptions. you know, no dams have been built since 1979. we can take folks out to see diamond valley reservoir, because they have been billed, and other things have been done. in fact, massive storage has been brought online. getting our groundwater aquifers and innovating in some of the
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ways you discussed, but when you spend an entire century building dams in every single place where it makes any sense, you do hit a point of diminishing returns and redirected impacts, and we are at that point now in california, so if we continue to try to apply that 20th century solution to every challenge, it is not going to get us there. we are going to spend a ton of money and not solve the problems, but the things you mention are creating resilience and bringing real wet water to communities. there is a friendly rivalry between the bay area and los angeles, but i have to say, in this respect, you checked all the boxes of innovative sustainable water management in a better way than i think many of my northern california communities.
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we are playing catch-up to your leadership, and i thank you for that. i want to ask you and the other mayors in the time i have left about an aspect of this climate crisis that really deserves more attention, and it is the urban heat island effect. you are also innovating in that respect, and it has social justice and all sorts of other implications, but talk a bit about what you're doing in los angeles to mitigate that problem, and i will ask the other mayors the same question. mayor garcetti: thank you for the great question and for your leadership. for most of the population, we are combining short-term climate adaptations like cool pavement, where we have lighter asphalt that we are pioneering in los angeles. it is about 10 degrees less on the ground and about two degrees less in the ambient area, which jpl and nasa is helping us work on. also, putting trees -- not just dividing them by council district evenly, but putting them in communities where the least shade exists, moving toward shade as an equity issue.
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those are two of the main ways we are looking at that as well. as well as cool rooftops being mandated in our codes. representative huffman: finally, other mayors, i would love to hear from you. mayor bottoms: in atlanta, we are studying this and working on a study that will literally confirm what we already know, that our marginalized communities are the ones bearing the burden of this. in a primarily african-american community, my monthly utility bill rivals a small commercial establishment, and that is not unusual. not only is it creating an issue that week literally can feel but also creating an issue that is a burden in our pocketbooks on a monthly basis.
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mayor rhodes-conway: in medicine really briefly, we are also -- in madison, really briefly, we are also dealing with the urban heat island, but in wisconsin, the building code essential to the state level and we are preempted from exceeding that. i would love to be exploring more solutions around white roofs, different building technology, but i'm very constrained in what i can do by state preemption. representative huffman: thank you for that. thank you. i yelled back, -- i yield back,
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madam chair. chair castor: thank you. next we go to the representative from texas. >> thank you, madam chair. it is an important hearing. we are used to the heat and used to floods in houston. but we have to get our facts straight and understand the problem so we can align with the right solutions. oftentimes it rains here. it rains a lot here, and we hear, well, that's climate change. that is what climate change looks like. i'm not denying climate change, of course, but what we do have to get straight is the rhetoric surrounding it. we are in a humid, subtropical climate on the gulf of mexico. this last month, everyone was talking about may, there will be 11 inches of rain overall, and it was considered exceptional. that is actually the median. you go back to 1888, that far back you can find 11 inches of rain for the month, so it does
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happen and will not change any time soon. to hear that we have had 500-year floods in the last decades is a clever distraction because 500-your flood is an insurance term. we would have to talk about rainfall, and we have not seen that data yet. indications say we might, and we should reduce carbon emissions as a just in case scenario. we are in agreement on that, but to talk about flooding and resiliency, we have to focus in on what really causes it, and it is a lack of infrastructure planning and development planning that does not take into account the long history of normal rainfall we have in houston. again, it is important to have discussions on the committee about reducing carbon emissions long-term. there is an agreement in the outcome desired, but a disagreement on what solutions we prefer. when we talk about resilience, that conversation has to happen if climate change is a factor or not. the reality is the rain in houston is not going to change much no matter what we do, and we just need to be prepared for it as we have more people.
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ms. wallace, i want to talk about the barriers that are in place with respect to that development. how long has the mississippi river basin been flooding? how long has the federal government known this is a problem? have they really devoted the funds necessary to that problem? ms. wallace: we have been watching major flood events happened since -- 2008 was probably a major one that helped us realize we need to develop a plan for floods, and in the middle of 2012, we saw some pretty consequential droughts.
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we want to plan for both in an integrated way. to speak about the frequency profiles, the corps of engineers is working on updating that. just last year, they updated the two-dimensional model -- not updated, it was a need -- it was a new two-dimensional model that underscores the importance along the entire mississippi river, so we can understand what happens when you put a structure in, add something, and what happens, and that will allow planners to build resiliency on that. does that fit in your question?
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representative crenshaw: a little bit. it does seem we will add funding to this, but there's problems with the way we are modernizing the process, by which we actually approve and plan for these projects. how can we do better on that? ms. wallace: that's a great question. broadly speaking, we are working with state partners and local partners. that leads to an approval process. after the 2019 flood, there was a community that worked to expand the river floodplain, and that came at a local level, but the state and federal governments endorsed it. they knew they needed to recover somehow. that is a great example that should be highlighted across the country. representative crenshaw: i've run out of time. i go back.
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>> thank you, madam chair for holding this important hearing today. i want to thank each of the witnesses for testifying and for their service to our country and their local communities. nationwide, communities are struggling to keep up with natural hazards such as flooding, as previously mentioned, and wildfires, which is particularly important for me and my state. i rep is at the great state of colorado, as many of you know, and in 2020 we had a devastating, historic year for wild iris. three of the largest in state history occurred in the last year, and two were in my congressional district. unfortunately, we can expect to see fires of this magnitude in the coming decades if we don't expect climate change in a bold way, and i want to thank mayors for their work in this regard. additionally, communities are still building back in colorado after we saw historic and devastating floods in 2013.
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local emergency management officials have stressed the need for increased flexibility for fema to allow for building back better in the wake of these natural disasters. we could build a climate resilient community back, but in my view, the most meaningful pathway towards achieving what i have described is through the establishment of a 21st-century civilian climate core, which are no other witnesses are certainly aware, the president has announced his support of. it would ensure we make investments in climate solutions and the workforce needed to implement them, in particular, for constituents of my state, the work necessary on our public lands, wildfire resiliency, mitigation, and so forth. i wonder if you are familiar with the climate conservation corps proposal and if you could
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expound a bit on how it might impact your respective communities. mayor garcetti: absolutely. it is a great program that i am incredibly supportive of and i'm looking forward to the federal government enacting this. we have been building on the los angeles conservation corps for a long time. it makes use of those who have been in the toughest environments and turns them into environmental stewards. as well as other folks who are returning either from the criminal justice system or folks interested in helping out, so coming out of the pandemic, we will be doing hundreds of these,
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so we might have hundreds of americans going door-to-door so that questions from republicans and democrats alike are addressed. get the energy help to support americans in my city, get folks who can help weatherize homes, and let them be empowered to not be passive recipients but active participants in the struggle. >> thank you for the question, i am not familiar with the program but it does sound extremely interesting and going back to the equity focus we have from our administration, youth engagement, workforce development training is a huge part of that especially as we go into the summer months and we are experiencing all the other challenges after covid related to an uptick in crime, kids being out of school, etc., we have a keen focus on youth development and workforce engagement, so it is something that i am certainly interested in learning more about and would definitely align with what our focus will be over the next several months.
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rep. neguse: thank you -- and if you would like to add? mayor rhodes-conway: i am familiar with the proposal and i'm a big fan. we would definitely use it in madison. we have a similar proposal engaging and disconnected to use in our conservation parks in particular which we have increased under my administration, but similarly, we have our green power training program in the city of madison where we have hired, we hire trainees and train them on solar installation, led light conversion, and we are hoping to expand further into some of the green infrastructure work that we are doing, forestry, etc., antedate, our trainees are 73% people of color and 33% women, and these folks can go on to careers in these industries, but
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what has happened is we are hiring them into our public works department, diversifying those departments and setting them on behalf of a good family job. i am proud of this program and i am very -- i think every city in this country could do something like this in addition to state and private companies as well, and i think we need to be investing in our youth and workforce in a way that is sustainable and grows these good green job careers. rep. neguse: i see that my time has expired, and thank you to each of the mayors, and in particular to mayor bottoms, thank you for all the great work you have done down in atlanta. chair castor: thank you. we will go to rep. carter, you
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are recognized for five minutes. rep. carter: thank you author being here, especially the mayors. i know what a challenge it could be and i am interested in your position on this, and i will start with you ms. wallace. in your testimony, you say, we will benefit from the rich history of multijurisdictional operation, from our unique strengths are federal partners and other private stakeholders. what are the unique strengths of the federal government that they can bring to governments like yours are partnerships like yours, i should say? ms. wallace: thank you. we were previously a federal state commission and we were born from that, so we have this underlying history of the 1970's of working with a very tight partnership between federal agencies and states. i've federal agencies range from the army corps of engineers and also, the ecological restoration program and the efficient wildlife service which offers a
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role in terms of wildlife management, ecological prophecies, fema with its rolls on hazard planning and response as well as usdpa with oil. and with the usgs, their science research arm, noaa, so with integrated drought planning resources and also its prediction forecasting capabilities and understanding of the history of climate in the upper midst, so all that together is fantastic. rep. carter: when is the federal government an obstacle or burden to you? ms. wallace: sometimes when each agency might have their own perspective for how things go forward, but as with any family, you might have disagreements for moving forward, but we strive to overcome those, again, one that i have highlighted earlier is
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the army corps of engineers program, if those could be more shared in terms of liability, we would have more and faster and more efficient agreements between the corps and the nonfederal sponsors. rep. carter: you emphasizing your testimony how different communities are linked and the need for a shared vision and resiliency and i want to thank you for that because i agree, and i believe that representative palmer pointed out how important resilience is. representing georgia, i can tell you that we need to build up our resiliency. to that is not a partisan issue
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so it is very important for it thank you. mayor bottoms, i wanted to ask you. you committed atlanta to 100% renewable clean energy by 2035. i know in los angeles, they committed to be 100% by 2045, and in the la area, they have had rolling blackouts as a result of depending on renewable energy that is turning out not to be as dependable, and we all understand the concerns of that. excuse me, as a georgian, i am very proud of what we have done. we are in the top 10 in solar energy, we have the only nuclear reactor -- and you will find this hard to believe about the number one forester state in the country.
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how are you going to achieve this 100% renewable by 2035 and avoid these rolling blackouts? mayor lance bottoms: thank you for the question. we have been very thoughtful and are planning with this and in fact, we have an earlier deadline to achieve this goal, and we extended the deadline because he wanted to make sure that we were thoughtful. a huge part of that has been working with our utility partners, making sure that georgia power has been a power has been a part of this discussion because we want to make sure that as we work to achieve that goal that it is beneficial for all of our communities so if that means that we need to further extend the deadline, which i certainly hope we will not have to come about if we have to do that to make sure we get it right, we will do that and continue to have at the table front and center our utility partners to make sure that it is achievable. mayor lance bottoms: thank you, mayor, and again, thank you all for the panel. i yield back.
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>> could i ask a point of clarification? chair castor: yes. >> would it be possible for mayor garcetti to clarify that there have not been any rolling blackouts because of renewable energy? mayor garcetti: correct. los angeles has never had a rolling blackout, because of renewable energy. i very respectfully want to correct the record. chair castor: thank you for the clarification. next, we will go to rep. bramley, so in the meantime, why don't we go to rep. miller. you are recognized for five minutes. rep. miller: thank you, chair. ranking member graves, i want to thank you for being here today and like many of my colleagues, sitting on the committee, my district in west virginia has
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been gravely impacted by extreme weather events. i feel for the americans who have been impacted by natural disasters and i look forward to using this hearing and future hearings to learn more about what actions that we can take to create the real, concrete resolves to mitigate the damage and saves lives. my district in southern west virginia have a history of flooding. in 2016, three schools in one rural county were completely destroyed, which basically by flooding -- the schools are the center of the communities so it halted learning, it deprived the residents of places that they went for everything, and it has taken years for this to be changed and for schools to come back up.
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these catastrophic floods cost 23 lives at that time, and our communities are still in a recovery process. but it is history, but it is happening right now. last night in lincoln county in my district, they were hit by severe flooding, and at least 50 families were trapped in their homes and it damaged many others. my prayers go out to be people who are affected in west hamlin in lincoln county, but we need to figure out what to do, and that is why it is so important for us to understand what steps the federal government can take to help create the real results.
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destroying our american energy infrastructure and instead relying on foreign sources of energy will create more global carbon emissions. we need to do more to show up our supply chain of critical minerals so that we can produce energy of all kinds here in america, and create jobs for our constituents. in the meantime, we have to prepare our communities to mitigate damage from these extreme weather events and promote policies that prioritize resiliency. mayor rhodes conway, and your testimony, you mentioned the danger that flooding presents to wisconsin. what steps has maddison taken, and how do you prepare and free mitigation? mayor rhodes-conway: thank you for the question. maddison experiences that several different types of flooding. we are between lakes, so when the lake levels rise over time, and i will say, our lake levels have been rising significantly over time due to increased precipitation, that will cause a backup of the sewer system, and there is also the problem of larger rain events and while he may be getting the same amount of water over time, it is coming in more severe storms so that
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more of it comes at once, so then we have the regular, local ponding in our streets and wet basement issues, and then we have the really severe crises likely on 2018 with the thousand year flood. as to what we are doing, because we are facing multiple types of flooding, it has to be a multifaceted approach. we are studying all of our watersheds to understand where flooding occurs and what improvements we can make in our stormwater system, whether that be in great infrastructure or green infrastructure, but we also completely revamped our stormwater code that future buildings must be built to accommodate at the higher chance of flooding in our community. so that when buildings get built from now on and they will be less likely to be impacted by flooding, and one of the major things we did there, we used to say you just have to pay attention to your own property, which of course means that you could push the water problem off down the hill from you, but now we are requiring folks to take into account the entire system.
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rep. miller: i want to ask you one more question. our rural communities often lack resources available to engage in predisaster mitigation. as your role of the co-chair, how do you think we can help empower these neighborhoods, these communities? mayor rhodes-conway: another excellent question. dc there is an opportunity for the federal government tosa solutions that are working in one place that may work in another place. i do think that the cities are the laboratories of democracy and we are learning things, we are innovating, and we are happy to share that knowledge and spread it. i work closely with my partners, smaller cities and rural areas in wisconsin and i think that model is something that could work across the country. rep. miller: thank you.
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i yield back. chair castor: thank you. next, i do not see a couple of memories that we will try to come back. are you prepared for your question, ranking member? you are recognized for five minutes. rep. graves: thank you. all of the witnesses, thank you for your testimony. it was a big help. i want to ask, but i kind of toughed on -- touched on the opening statement. you could do all sorts of things in order to try to address resilience.
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what are some of the guiding principles that you are using to try to identify the investments that you are making? mayor garcetti: you have to have collaboration for you cannot come with an empty hand and hat, but as representative miller said, conscious of the differences of communities and resources that people have. second, empower everyday people. third, make it different everyone bottom-line, so water contravention -- conservation, you can do it as the cheapest way for everybody, and i would say for us, look at where you can have a multi benefit of anything you do. create local jobs are at risk youth while you are you -- those are the principles that we engage with every single day.
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rep. graves: that is helpful. thank you. there are number of things being done across the country that i have strong concerns with because i do not feel like they are that as you said, you are talking about dual benefits, making sure it is involved in a cost benefit, but a lot of things around the country that do not do it. i have write some things that yoga and the taj mahal may be in your future and i don't want to cause any problems at all, so waved me off or provide an inviting in the future and i mean that. if you look at what's happening showing the model of all of this transport and additional emissions coming from countries like china, how do you make it -- how does that make you feel that you are there trying to lean forward, and meanwhile, you have these aggressive missions that may put the brakes on some of this.
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mayor garcetti: i appreciate it and i am happy to answer it. these are the 97 mega cities and countries like china, india, and i will say this, of the 97 cities, 54 of them have exceeded their promises in the paris climate accord. they come from china, and they come from countries that have not met those goals, including our own. their only a couple of countries in the world that have met their pledges. cities that i think are inspiring those nations to do better, it is the citizens in beijing, and saying that quality, and power to do something about it, it is really to empower the grassroots to say in the national leaders to the city leaders, let's do better, and that mayor tamir conversation happens beautifully at the global level.
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rep. graves: i will follow-up with writing after this, but i want to turn to ms. wallace. can you talk a little bit, again, i love the mayor garcetti quote in regards to nipa, but can you talk a little bit about the frustration with implementation, can you talk about some of the challenges y'all have had was trying to implement resiliency efforts that are obstructed by some of the red tape? i know that nafta and others are priorities for you and your organization. ms. wallace: i priority that we hope to see move forward both for the resilience of the navigation system, but also for the ecosystem. like i think what was said earlier, we want to act now so we are prepared and resilient
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going forward into the future. delayed action is very problematic. our understanding and the delay is a decision with the office of management and budget and not putting it in the budget. we understand that the last administration had agreed of the department of agricultural level and ultimately, it was within omb, so we are hopeful to get the funding for moving forward. again, that was an agreement reached by stakeholders, by all of the state and federal agencies, and navigation and conservation interests, this is our way forward, it was really insightful and would answer a lot of our challenges ecologically to the resilience. rep. graves: thank you. i apologize, i have questions for the other mayors, but i am out of time.
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chair castor: great. i will recognize myself for five minutes for questions. thank you again to all of these terrific witnesses. there is so many technological advancements that we can use to help lower electric bills for all of our neighbors. you have done a hit on one of the stumbling blocks and that is the fact that you are preempted from implementing certain standards, kind of bringing and some of the modern technology and this is a problem in other states, too, where local communities are bound by state law that prohibits the adoption of modern codes and standards that are proven to reduce pollution and help bring online some of the smart technology. how do we craft legislation in the congress, how do we address that? we do not like to take too heavy of hand and we do not need that kind of national hammer, but
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we're going to have to help local communities get these things done, how do we do that? mayor rhodes-conway: thank you. it is an excellent question. the principle that i would use to guide you is the principle of floors, not ceilings. the federal government, state governments should set a minimum requirement, and a state of wisconsin set of floor which allowed jurisdictions like madison or green bay to exceed its, given our local conditions, for example, flooding. it would allow us the flexibility that we need, but not require everybody to hit the higher standard that madison might want to hit, so i do think that anything that could get states to that principal and philosophy would be extremely important and valuable to us.
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failing that, i think incentivizing state to move towards adoption of the greatest codes. here in wisconsin, we ignored the last update, so we are falling behind every day. thankfully, the governor is taking action to move forward on that, but nonetheless, it leaves us vulnerable at the local level of not being able to do the things that we need to do to protect our community. chair castor: yes, thank you. such common sense and we have to use every tool in the two blocks -- toolbox. it has been good to hear that there is bipartisan recognition
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that the burdens of the climate crisis often foll -- fall on the working class neighbors and are black and brown neighbors. fema is currently seeking help from cities and the public to change the way they address climate threats for underserved communities but my question to all of our panel, what can congress do now, now we are marching forward to hammer out the american jobs plan, what do we need to include it to help your cities center environmental justice across the board from transportation, water, infrastructure, and housing? what needs to be said and done throughout legislation that we intend to pass? let's go in the same order, mayor garcetti.
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check your audio, mayor. mayor garcetti: my time is limited and at such a huge question but i would say the most important thing is to make sure you are demanding equity managers. either the data has to be collected or the output of hitting all communities. that is a way to make sure that these jobs are local, do local higher, and embedded, not just a waiver and create a whole workforce, so this is not just about doing something for this legislation, but really creating clear pathways that will be the climate warriors of the next generation. chair castor: and onto you. mayor lance bottoms: small grant funding to our partners and also i will go back to hurricane
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katrina. we were in inland city, not expecting any major impact from hurricanes, but we had to take in a huge amount of the population of new orleans, climate refugees into our city, so these unexpected expenditures that we experienced too often, so any flexibility and expediency and getting funding directly to our cities would be helpful. chair castor: i certainly hear that from my mayor as well. do not park it through the state, get it to the local communities that know how to get things done. you all have been a terrific panel and i appreciate the involvement of all of our committee members today. thank you. without objection, i'm going to enter some documents into the record. i know congressman crenshaw brought up some issues on the
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and atmospheric administration, they have the most up-to-date scientific analysis on changing temperatures, changing precipitation patterns, and i recommend them to you, and it shows that we're are talking about extremes here in the western and northern parts of the country warming faster while places that typically get a lot of rainfall are getting more of it in many extreme events, so folks who may be watching this hearing may have questions, go dig in and find out what is happening in your location,
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because the climate crisis is impacting communities across america and different ways, but we are paying more, and we are all suffering through many of these extreme events and we will have to come more resilient. without objection, i would like to enter into the network june 4 letter for water utility use throughout the state of florida encouraging congress to invest and water recycling programs as a part of the infra structure package to help communities with resilient and mitigate the climate change. a june 10 letter detailing the critical need for investment in our city -- nations infrastructure. the serious consequent as if we fail to act, and across all infrastructure sectors with modern codes and standards to protect public health and safety. without objection, all members will have 10 business days to submit questions to the witnesses. i ask our witnesses to respond properly -- promptly.
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the committee on climate crisis is now adjourned, have a great weekend. >> c-span's "washington journal," every day taking your calls live on the air on the news of the day and we discussed policy issues that impact you. coming up saturday morning, george washington university on recent flights into private entrepreneurs and the impact on space travel. then an assistant professor at the university of california talks about her recent piece about how u.s. health care can be improved. be sure to join the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, text messages, and tweets. >> weekends on c-spannumeral to bring you the best of nonfiction
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world who ever would have used force like that, and he was not one to do that. i know for a fact because after it happened, he came over, and he was physically and emotionally distraught, and i gave him a hug and said, sir, you did what you had to do, and i mean that. unfortunately, the young lady, her family's life has changed. his it's unfortunate she lost her family lost their loved one. but the lieutenant's life has changed, too. he did not show up to work that day to have to do that. he was doing his job, but he got part -- got put in a situation where he had to do his job because if you are going to present your weapon in a manner and give commands and they still won't listen and they still approached, you don't have a choice. you have to at that point discharge your weapon in a manner of self defense, or that weapon will be taken away from you and used on you and put all lives in danger, too.
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>> january 6: views from the house" starts this sunday at 10:00 p.m. eastern, or listen on the c-span radio app. next, legal experts testify on voting rights and election integrity. the house judiciary subcommittee on the constitution examines the implications of recent supreme court decisions on the topic. witnesses include experts from harvard, the center for justice judicial watch, and the lawyers committee for civil rights under law. this is about 90 minutes. liberties, and civil rights will come to order. without objection, we authorize a federal recess in the subcommittee at any time. welcome today's hearing on the applications


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