tv White House Senior Adviser Discusses Bidens Agenda CSPAN July 2, 2021 2:14pm-2:39pm EDT
>> "landmark cases" explores the drama behind significant supreme court decisions, sunday at 9:45 eastern. miranda v arizona. brenda was arrested for suspicion of kidnapping and rape and signed a written confession. the supreme court ruled that the confession was inadmissible because he was not notified before being questioned of his fifth and sixth amendment rights of self-incrimination and the right of any attorney. watch "landmark cases" on c-span, online on c-span.org, or listen on the free c-span radio app. >> anita dunn, senior advisor to president biden, discussed the policy agenda with politico. she talked about the junes job report, infrastructure negotiations, and the white
house covid-19 vaccination efforts. >> joining us this morning to discuss that and more on politico is anita dunn. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> aside from getting any infrastructure deal through congress, we have a lot to talk about, including the latest on effort to get 70% of u.s. adults vaccinated and preparations for the white house's first big
public event. if you are tuning in on the livestream, you can follow the conversation on twitter and you can ask us questions by treating us @politicolive. just quickly, on some of the news this morning on the jobs report, what does the white house make of the numbers put out this morning? >> this morning we learned that over 850,000 do jobs have been created in this economy last month which makes a total of over 3 million new jobs since the president was an ungraded. yesterday, the congressional office put out a growth forecast for 2021, revising it 2.7 .4% growth, annualized for 2021, post--american rescue plan.
the highest gdp growth forecast since 1984 when republicans were talking about how it was morning in america again. we feel there are a few things important with this report. one is that the president's economic plan is working. we have a record number of new jobs being created, more than any administration. we have economic growth projected to be the highest in nearly 40 years. and we have wages increasing. the president believes american working families need a raise. employers are paying more. workers are getting more which is a good thing for this economy. we feel this is added momentum as we go into this next phase with our jobs plan and with our family plan, with our build back better agenda. eight-year investments in our nation's infrastructure to continue the growth and to be competitive internationally in
the 21st century. ryan: let's dive into the build back better agenda. let's talk about the bipartisan bill and the coming reconciliation bill. now that you have got this framework on the bipartisan bill, you have to make some choices when you are negotiating with republicans and democrats. what you take from the american jobs plan, what to leave out. what are the highest priorities from the original american jobs plan that did not make it into the bipartisan bill that you want to see in the reconciliation bill? ms. dunn: the president has been clear he sees this as a dual track process. the items from his jobs plan that did not make it into the bipartisan infrastructure bill are ones he wants in the second bill which will be the bulk of his agenda.
he spoke about this at the press conference where they announced the bipartisan agenda, the clean energy tax credits. this is a critical piece of his clean energy, climate proposal package she rolled out a year ago. these are not new issues, they are the ones he ran on and won on in 2020. the housing pieces are also critically important. it is no secret that this country has had a housing crisis for years, particularly when it comes to affordable have housing . -- when it comes to affordable housing. the care economy is no secret for anyone u.s. tried to find help for an adult disabled child or elderly parents. there are not enough workers in
this country and the president believes they should be paid more. those pieces are ones that he sees as critically important in this build back better package that we are looking at in the context of reconciliation. he believes both bills should get to his desk. he intends to sign both bills and that economic agenda is what we need to position this country for growth in the future and to compete economically around the globe. ryan: when you were building the infrastructure bill and you had this huge menu of priorities to push, and you had these two tracks, was there anything you did not put in or did not ask for or negotiated and decided to remove in the bipartisan bill because you could not get as much as you wanted so you
decided that is better done in the rickety -- in the reconciliation bill where we have a better chance of getting 100% of what we proposed? is there an example of something like this? something like how you solve the jigsaw puzzle of these bills and what the president originally proposed? ms. dunn: in the bipartisan negotiations around the infrastructure plan, the questions around scope were discussed a great deal. i cannot pick out one thing that falls into that category. the republicans and democrats who begin those discussions among themselves came in with a fairly good idea of what they felt the scope of this bill should be. we did push on a few things, but at the end of the day it was always our clear communication and a clear understanding with the hill that what did not make
it in that first package we were going to push very hard as priorities in the second package. we don't see this as one or the other, we have always seen this as a dual track process. it is why when the president rolled out his agenda, we did it in two pieces, the jobs plan and the families plan. that was all part of the agenda that the president released to the public a year ago to say these are my priorities, this is how we are going to build a better economy to everybody, one that we built from the middle out in the bottom up as opposed to the top-down. have you heard the land before? ryan: one question on the pay forwards of the bipartisan bill. there are a lot of budget experts looking at the list of pay forwards and sing is that really going to add up to the $2
trillion? the congressional budget office will weigh on this. your member 2009 and how the cbo affected the writing of the affordable care act. i know it drove the white house crazy. what happens if the cbo says the pay forwards do not add up to the spending in the bipartisan framework? ms. dunn: these are pay forwards that a bipartisan group of senators put together and that they feel comfortable are going to be enough to pay for this plan. let me point out that infrastructure in particular and a lot of the expenditures in this plan are investments. they are like capital investments. if you were a company, you would be taking this off of your annual books and putting it into your capital budget. these are long-term investments. they are not stimulus.
pay forwards are the ones agreed upon and in the context of the larger plan, i think the group of senators felt comfortable that these were real pay forwards and moving ahead on assumption. ryan: let's talk about the reconciliation bill. two questions there. number one, there is a big difference right now between what the president has proposed and what the senate budget by bernie sanders is writing. probably the biggest difference is over the medicare provisions that sanders wants to put in, both an extension of the prescription drugs reform that will pay for medicare and reducing the eligibility age of medicare. what is the white house's position on those that hold medicare provisions that was not
originally proposed in the jobs plan or the families plan? ms. dunn: the president has been clear that he supports giving medicare the authority and power to negotiate drug prices. he also supports the expansion of medicare benefits to cover hearing aids, eyeglasses, and other think, and dental -- and other things. -- and dental. as well as other things. the biting campaign came together and in his budget message to congress he said he supports those things. there is no argument here. how reconciliation gets put together here is something that chairman sanders and chairman yarmuth and others will be
heavily involved in, as we are, and we will all be talking about the priorities and how we pay for it. ryan: that is not a redline, that is to be negotiated? the white house is not saying don't do medicare in this bill and drawing a line in the sand on that? ms. dunn: these are things the president supports and he has been clear he supports them, that he supports expanded benefits, he supports lowering the age to 60, and he supports giving medicare that kind of authority. he said so in his budget message to congress. ryan: once the bipartisan bill started moving, the white house did lay down some red lines. maybe it is early on reconciliation, but i am wondering if there is a number of the white house had on the overall cost of the reconciliation bill. some members of congress have started to put down their markers. senator joe manchin who i know a
lot of people listen to said he does not want to go higher than $2 trillion -- higher than $2 million, excuse me, $2 trillion. there is a big difference. senator sanders, it looks like it would be around $5 trillion. what is left over from the families plan, it looks like it adds up to about $3 trillion more. joe manchin is it $2 trillion, bernie sanders is that $5 trillion, where are you? where is the white house? ms. dunn: the president has had two red lines, the first and most important was in action which was not an option for him. we were going to get something done and address these. the second redline has been that
he is not going to agree to tax increases for people who make less than $400,000 a year. those have been the two red lines we have defined and we have negotiated on. in terms of the overall number -- and we are at the beginning of a reconciliation process. the house and senate have their own processes. the president has been clear what he thinks should be in the resolution. he sends it to congress, it is our build back better agenda, and that is his preference. he was in the senate for 36 years. there is a congressional process and a negotiation. the understand there will be a lot of back-and-forth between now and then and probably playbook is going to enough their agenda before this is all over a few more times. no matter how many times we say that is true, it never happens. it will get past. ryan: i don't think we ever said
that -- ever said dead. ms. dunn: there was a lot of "in peril." [laughter] but you will be amazed how many times you can bring that patient back. ryan: fair enough, it is a long process. let's switch to the pandemic and covid. people outside of washington who thought that this crisis was behind us might be a little bit surprised about the news about the delta virus. cases are up now 5%. in places that are vaccinated, they are doing quite well. what is the administration's plan to contain localized outbreaks from becoming another full-blown national surge giving that vaccination has slowed so much and it looks like you are not going to make the
anita: that is a great question, ryan. the president, in every single covid statement and speech he has made since we have been in the white house has had one consistent message for people, which is get vaccinated. he also, throughout the spring, has talked about the fact that we are going to see, potentially, increase in contagiousness. let's be clear. if you have got the vaccination, you do not have to worry about the delta variant. you are protected. the most extraordinary story in medical history is the success of these vaccines. one of the most successful vaccines ever in terms of efficacy. if you have got the vaccine, you do not have to worry about the delta variant. you are protected against it. if you have not gotten the vaccine, you need to get it.
ryan, nearly 70% of the country is going to be vaccinated within a couple weeks. we did not quite make our goal, but we are darn close to it. that means it is really difficult to see how you get another national surge. so many people nationally are vaccinated. you do have local hotspots. you are going to have places where the vaccine rate is not as robust. covid task forces will be prepared to go into areas seeing increased levels of illness with therapeutic and additional treatment. we will make sure the medicine is where we needed to be. people can get vaccinations.
we will continue to talk with our communications for sense -- forces to work with populations lagging behind, particularly younger people who did not get as sick, were not as likely to get sick at the beginning of the pandemic. that is not true with the delta variant. we are targeting populations to make sure vaccines are available to people where people are getting their health care. we are going to push hard. because, the reality is that there are easy, safe, and effective ways to make sure you do not have to worry about the delta variant. we are going to keep buzzing -- pushing that message. ryan: here at politico, one of our long-standing franchises is
a community of women leaders across many sectors. a couple of questions are interest to the women role community. -- rule community. you have been in the inner circle on more than one winning presidential campaign, which is not too bad. you have been advisor to two u.s. presidents. you are one of the most powerful women in washington. what is the best piece of career advice you have ever gotten on the way to where you are today? anita: that is a great question, ryan. i will say that as somebody who has participated in women rule events i am a big fan. thank you, politico, for doing this. the best advice i got when i was an intern in jimmy carter's white house. i worked for jimmy carter's
chief of staff. one of the smartest political minds of anybody's generation. hamilton told me, i forget the context, he told me it is better to make a decision and have it be wrong that make decision -- then make no decision. it is worth making a bad decision that you can fix. if you are smart and good, seven out of eight will be good decisions. women to this day are often hesitant to raise her voice. even when they can see that the decision being made. hamilton's basic thing was, if you think you are a smart person , make a decision.
women, do not be afraid to speak up. you are smart. so, be smart. keep your organization or candidate for making dumb mistakes. ryan: what other question on the subject. the biden administration is 56% women. how does that change the way you advise the president? anita: as you point out, this is a white house where we can see women role in terms of our numbers. there are meetings with the president. with three or four women. that is so different that is so different than most of our experiences as women in politics, certainly my generation. it was much more routine that there was one woman in the room. that all roman -- then all women
in the room. i think it has shaped his thinking and policymaking. i think it gives women and in particular working moms the permission structure to be the pair they want to be at also be the white house ever they want to be. there is never any question about people who want to take time because of school or a doctor's appointment or anything like that. so, i think it makes us a better white house. you know, the president is somebody who was a single parent for five years. he has, as we know, a very dedicated parent and grandparent . there is no one more supportive of women that joe biden when it comes to being in the workforce. brian: -- brian: that's right -- ryan: speaking of career, you took this job a little bit reluctantly. you are ready to go back to your firm.
-- you were ready to go back to your firm. what is the status of your career in the white house? are you sticking around? are you leaving? this is about the point in time where you suggested you might hang up your hat. anita: i am here is a temporary employee. i do believe that when a president asks you directly to serve, you have a responsibility to serve. but, this was not my intention to be at the white house full-time for a longer stand. as you said, i plan to return to my firm as the transition is over. i still plan to do that shortly. i'm taking a day today, but soon. brian: -- ryan: days or weeks? anita: stay tuned. ryan: weeks or months? anita: it is temporary. take my word for it.
ryan: thank you for joining us. it is great to have you. anyone not subscribed to politico please click on the link and subscribe. or, go to politico.com/ to follow live programming. thank you for tuning in and have a wonderful july 4 holiday. enjoy the events at the white house, anita, thank you for doing this. i need to: thank you. -- anita: thank you. >> in a moment we will take you to the white house for a naturalization ceremony held by president biden. it is expected to start at any moment. >> terry schilling is the president of the american principles project. we want to talk about the american family.