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tv   Washington Journal Jocelyn Frye  CSPAN  February 12, 2021 12:37pm-1:11pm EST

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[indiscernible] gov. ivey: -- >> here to talk
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about the impacts of the coronavirus pandemic prettily on women in the workforce thanks for giving your time. >> thank you for having me. paint the picture of the workforce overall and their impact and how do women get impacted? >> there are a couple of things going on with the pandemic. everybody has been affected. it has been devastating, we have seen enormous job losses. one of the reasons there has been a unique impact is two things. women are far more likely to be the caregivers. one of the underlying stories of this pandemic is our lack of policy support for those who have caregiving needs. the ability to balance work and family. as a result women were mostly the caregiver when facing the crisis of they are sick, family
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member is sick or kids are at home virtually schooling. many women are the ones who have to take on the responsibility to handle that. they are leaving the workforce or losing their job because they do not have access to protection. the other dynamic is that many of the industry most affected by the pandemic are disproportionately industries that employed women leisure and hospitality, education, health care, government and public sector. all are areas where women disproportionately work and most of those jobs women of color disproportionately work. those dynamics are having a larger, more outsize impact on women combined with the volatility of the economy, jobs come back when they come back, that has been -- the pandemic has had a larger impact. host: your organization tells
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when it comes to net job loss, women with those 5.4 million job losses compared to men at 4.4 million, the national women's law center said 250,000 women left -- 2.3 million left since february of last year. if jobs recovery and the trends continue, what is the likelihood women can recover? guest: as you look at those numbers, that are troubling and stark. you have to remember that some of the problems have been exacerbated by the pandemic, our problems before the pandemic. the challenge of people being able to care for their families and maintain their jobs was a pre-existing problem. we do not have sufficient policies, many do not have paid family or sickly.
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they have inadequate support for affordable childcare. all of those things where increasing pressure. even as the economy rebounds, we will continue to see the same problem unless we fix those core problems. the other thing is as long as we have these caregiving challenges and a slow recovery. many of the jobs that are coming back are still not coming back sufficiently for women to catch up. the recovery is slow. it is not fast. on top of that there are certain workers, but low-wage workers, women of color workers for whom it is taking longer to find new jobs and earned better wages. -- earn better wages. those continue to impact unemployment as we try to figure out how we recover. host: the gender disparities
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dealt with during covid-19 is our topic with our guest to talk about the impact on women. statistic information from the bureau of labor statistics, our guest is here. you can ask her about this topic. we have divided the light as such (202) 748-8000 for women, for men (202) 748-8001 and tweet us @cspanwj. send us a text at (202) 748-8003 . if this is the case, we heard president biden and in interview talk about the impacts to women and the workforce. what does this mean for the biden administration and is there anything that they have proposed that will help with the plight? guest: he was right to call this out. he is aware of what we have known for a long time, that if you are pushing women out of the workforce. you are not only harming them
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but their families and the economy. there is ample evidence that the presence of women in our economy , working, being productive gross gdp. he inappropriately recognizes that if we do not fix this problem we are not going to have the recovery we need. one of the things he has talked about is investigating into paid family medical leave, paid sick leave, investments in childcare not only with the resources to support people to pay for child care but invest in the infrastructure. all of those are needed. the people most in need, most struggling are those who do not have access to policy. those are on the horizon. these policies enjoy quiet support even though there is a political divide, the public is
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clear. they understand why these policies were, across republicans, democrats, white, black. these are things families need so we need to figure out how we can make sure every has access. host: senator marco rubio published a piece taking a look at a proposal team made. i will read a little bit he said that he and senator mike lee had a proposal that would expand the child tax credit, the key difference aside from being a larger credit is that ours is tied to work. it would provide support for him is about maintaining a connection of work, a government check can never replace the ability to earn high wages and fulfill the american promise that if you work hard enough, you and your family will flourish. how do you respond? guest: you cannot approach these piecemeal. while it is useful for folks to
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have tax credits that can cover the cost of childcare. the problem is bigger. with a pandemic, unprecedented pandemic that many of the facilities are not set up to handle the protocols and needs required to have a system safe and sound and high quality. what people are talking about it is robust investment in infrastructure. let's make sure the providers can do what is necessary to provide care that is safe. you have two provide support that allows people to pay for high quality childcare. this was a problem before the pandemic. this is not new.
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there are people who have higher childcare payments than for rent or mortgages. this is a poem more than a tax credit, they need immediate relief. we need to think about strategies that give them that. we have to pay pile chair -- pay childcare workers better. parents will tell you if understand higher wages means higher quality. when you talk about childcare you have to talk about the whole package. you cannot pick and choose, it is a complicated problem. host: our guest this but does decide to work as a senior fellow at the american center for progress, director of policy and special projects for this but as for the first lady and general counsel for the partnership of women and families. our first call is eva, good morning. caller: good morning.
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i called for the professor and they hang up. i am sorry, i have something for the professor. host: i apologize, i really do because we have moved on. from tennessee, this is steve. hello. caller: thanks for taking my call. i have a question. maybe your guest can give me an answer. it is about the covid relief wreckage -- package. the stimulus checks they sent out? i have not received any because i was claimed on my older brother's income tax as a dependent. i have seen where biden -- about
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a month ago he wants to send us a check, because we did not get one before. do you know anything about that? host: you can respond to that and add to that if you wish the proposal for $15 minimum wage? guest: i appreciate the call. i am so sorry that the relief you are looking for has not arrived. if you are like many people who are sorely in need of additional economic support, we have seen our poems -- seen problems in terms of people receiving the support they need. one of the things that president biden has been talking about is the need to get more income into people's hands. that is a priority. i hope congress moves to make
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that a reality. because we need that economic support and we know that is an infusion into our economy. you are right to be asking. i hope that we can move forward on the increased amount as soon as possible. the other think that is important, is many folks, there are many folks that even on a good day before the pandemic were struggling to make ends meet. we have a global minimum wage, it has not been raised in years. it is in need of a boost. one of the things that the president has advocated. republicans and democrats across the country want to raise minimum wage to $15 per hour. to add to the current topic, it will help the women in
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particular. women are much more likely to be minimum-wage workers. they work in many of the industries affected by the pandemic. this would not only raise the wages for workers generally but have a particular impact on women and women of color more specifically. all of this is important to boost wages and economic support. host: let's hear from sherry in portsmouth, virginia. caller: i have a two-part question. can i get a definition of what a quota is? why is that regarded with disdain? leaving from that, when you talk about socialism versus capitalism writers that create angst amongst capitalists? why is that a dirty word?
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host: sherry if she offers the definition, what do you want to learn? caller: how can we utilize it? we need to give people a voice who have been underemployed and unemployed, if we set a quota, then we can get them employed. host: thanks for the clara kate -- for the clarification. guest: i appreciate the additional remarks to help me understand what you are getting at. there are a couple of things. when people talk about quotas, with amy is that you have a hard number, you have a target you are trying to reach. no matter what other factors. the reason that there are legal problems without is the people do not desk with that -- with
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that is people do not want to hit a specific number, without consideration for whether the person is qualified. there is legal precedent you cannot try to reach quotas for impermissible reasons, because a person is of a particular race or gender. that is the challenge. where you are going which i understand is why can't we be more targeted in the types of support we offer? are there groups of people who are being underpaid, undervalued or disproportionately affected by the pandemic, why cannot target support their? we ought to be doing that. look at the pandemic and what is happening, we see the fact that women are disproportionately affected. women of color have the highest unemployment rate among women. then you ought to be thinking
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about the strategies to get them back to work. when they are in the workforce, that they support their families. that is why people are talking about things like paid family leave, sick leave. talking about things to boost wages and minimum wages because those are targeted. that will have a disproportionate effect on those affected the most. we are trying to come up with strategies that are underlying problem. thank you for the question. we ought to not operate as if we cannot see what is happening. we have to be cognizant of those people. host: one of those efforts you spoke about with democrats on capitol hill is the topic of childcare funding. it was on wednesday that the house ways and means committee met and a member targeted to
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increase that sunday. i want to play a little bit of what he said. [video clip] >> this seeks to address the urgent need for childcare summit workers are facing by increasing funding for childcare entitlement to states, $3.4 billion per year. it provides a guaranteed $100 million per year to indian tribes and u.s. territories as well guaranteeing $75 million per year. this committee is no stranger to the difficulties working americans face during the pandemic. my god hasn't become more obvious. we heard from working mothers who shared struggles during the time of pandemic. one mother said that idea that you could make a career disappear because of schools and daycare closed is so absurd, another said that it is not possible for my husband and i to
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work and care for a three-year-old and nine-year-old. even before the pandemic caused schools and facilities to close, finding and affording childcare was a source of stress due to many working parents. especially for women, low-wage workers, people of color, mass unemployment has only exacerbated the problem. this is not an issue of underfunding, it is about equity and economic recovery. according to usa today analysis the number of women with childcare related absences more than doubled from 2019 to 2020. women accounted for 84% of all workers who missed work in the average month last year to childcare issues. 84%. host: your perspective?
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guest: he rightly is pinpointing the problem. we have had a long-term talent and problem around how we ensure that folks can access affordable childcare. in a country where women are disproportionately called upon to provide that care, if we do not have solid policies. if we do not have childcare that is affordable, the effect is going to disproportionately impact women. what we have seen is that women have dropped out of the workforce or work participation has been on even -- uneven. we think about how we get this back to right and moving forward, part of that is fixing problems therefore and part of that is anticipating future problems.
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he talked about large investments in childcare that are situated around had to wait make sure we get it up and running? moneys that help to pay childcare workers more, to help families afford childcare. all of this is needed. it is not one or the other. we have to confront the problem. the connection to work is critical. if you do not have it then people cannot go to work. if this is not a personal problem that people are supposed to handle on their own, this is a problem we can support as a nation and across the country. this is long overdue. the time is now. host: let's hear from alabama in roanoke, this is joseph. caller: can you hear me? host: yes sir.
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caller: i have different concerns about everything she is saying. a lot of things i agree with. as far as childcare being the way it is, unaffordable, even before the pandemic, i live in an area that is not highly appealing it. -- populated. i have a four euros and six euros, even before the pandemic it was ridiculously high. me and my wife would have to split hours and not get time together. one has to close, one has to open. there is room to get that fixed. the women in the workforce and trying to build it up, get women back in to work, i agree.
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me and my wife, and we did not lose much in the workforce through this pandemic, due to both of our jobs deemed very useful. host: what would you like our guest to address? caller: i would like for her to address -- personally speaking, back home where i come from, the area i lived in was a dominantly people of color. i believe these ratings that people are trying to feed us are slightly falsified. mind does not come from numbers from cnn, abc, fox, from working
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with people. host: we will leave your thoughts there. guest: i appreciate the comments. whether you are a low income family, high income family, middle, latino, asian americans, most families with kids will tell you they are struggling with these problems. it is always useful to recognize that if people are in a different situation, neighborhood, often times they
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are actually trying to navigate the same issues. i also think that in order to make sure you are really addressing the problem. you have to look at the data and what the data tells us. we know they are struggling. we know that many women of color we know that they are particularly hard-hit and that is data that we see. our task is to make sure that whatever we are coming up with not only help everybody also really pinpoint the problems that are being uniquely caused by the pandemic.
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>> people i have spoken to still have not received it. it is not spoken about. i was wondering where that $600 dimly as is coming from or if it is even coming at all. i am not sure if you know anything about it. but it is. host: we get the point. thank you. guest: i appreciate the frustration. what i would say is you are not alone. when you send out checks quickly , we know there have been glitches in people who should have received the checks.
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what i would say is we should all be in agreement that we have a huge priority of making sure people are actually getting the support they need and we have to be figuring out ways to make sure people get more support. we need to restart our economy. i am sorry that you are experiencing that problem, but the most important thing we can all do is make sure our representatives understand this is a priority to make sure resources are to get money to be both get people enough any to actually support it. host: natasha will be our last call. caller: as far as childcare
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goes, i had to children 18 months apart. childcare back in the 1990's was a problem as far as, i chose to go to work. my husband didn't want me to but i chose to. childcare took up almost 80% of the money that i was making. so i understand with the pandemic and and the challenges that are faced as far as women go. you think about the women who were like the head of the household and having to try to work and having school at home
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it is just a big problem. host: thank you. guest: thank you for your question and your comments. you said it better than i could you are absolutely right. your point about childcare is right on target. the challenges around affordable childcare are not new. this is just disproportionately to for low income families and ever can american families in hispanic families. the cost of childcare takes up an enormous percentage of their income and we civilly have to fix that problem. there is no other answer but we have to offset those costs that enable us to have affordable childcare. most families with two parents
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have both parents working. so the notion that somebody can cancel it on their own is no longer relate the norm. so we have to do better. that has to be a priority. we also have to do a bunch of other things in the context of the pandemic. the pandemic has been highlighting problems that are already there. we simply can't afford not to fix the problem and shame on us if we don't. if we weren't clear about it then, we should be clear about it now. it ought to be incumbent on all
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of us to do whatever is necessary to make sure families don't have to go through this again. host: thanks for your perspective. >> a live picture from the white house briefing room. we specked and administration update with the white house spokesman. it was scheduled to start at 12:30 and then pushed a 1:00 p.m. live on c-span2, you can watch for president trump's attorneys present their case during the senate impeachment trial. former president charged with inciting and insurrection. they say that his remarks were protected. live coverage of the impeachment pile taking place on a companion network, -- impeachment trial
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