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foreign policy and efforts for diplomacy. as always, we will take your calls, and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter as well. "washington journal" is next. ♪ ♪ host: good morning. it is monday, july 29. in the house has begun the annual august recess. the senate begins -- is in today. we begin with the latest on the twitter feud president trump sparked over the weekend with elijah cummings of baltimore. after opponents but cried -- becried the attack as racist, his ownt trump -- racist attack this afternoon. .ive us a call, 202-748-8000
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republicans, it is 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002. a special line for baltimore residents, 202-748-8003. you can also catch up with us on social media. on twitter it is @cspanwj. on facebook it is a very good monday morning. you can call in now. we showed you the front page of the washington times. president trump sets off racism debate. referring to the tweets saturday afternoon in which he called baltimore "rat and rodent infested lowe's quote and a place in which "no human being would want to live." cummings wouldh focus more of his energy on helping the good people of his district and baltimore, perhaps
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progress could be made fixing the mess he helped create. his radical oversight is a joke. elijah cummings, chairman of the house oversight and reform committee leading multiple organizations into the trump administration and the president's finances. 10 minutes ago the president said baltimore has the worst crime statistics in the nation, 25 years of all talk, no action. tired of listening to the same bull. that is what the president had to say on twitter. some reaction from the baltimore sun from the opinion pages. dan rodrick's is a long time opinion writer for the baltimore sun and here is his column. to continue to support this president, you have to agree with every bit of what he says
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and what he does or put yourself in a bubble where you never hear his racism or see his ignorance and cruelty. for you, trump is all about conservative judges and a strong economy, so what -- so what if he is a high-grade big it. -- bigot. jerrold nadler, the chairman of the house judiciary committee on abc's this week. [video clip] he oftenesident is as is, disgusting and racist. he makes these charges with no base and they are designed to distract attention from the very serious allegations about his conduct that came from the mueller -- committee hearings this week. the fact is the president accepted help from the russians to attack our election.
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with theign worked russians, that is undisputed and he works hard to cover up those crimes, committed more crimes and working to cover them up and lying and urging other people to lie to investigators so he is trying to change the suspect -- subject. house passed a resolution condemning him, will they do that again? >> i don't know, it would not be a bad idea. >> we are talking to you on the washington journal getting your feudhts as this twitter continues for another day this morning. the president tweeting again a little over 10 minutes ago about this topic. we will start for that line for those who reside in baltimore. caller: thank you very much, c-span. insultingent is
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baltimore is just a distraction. this president has been president for almost three years . he has never -- nothing to offer for health care or infrastructure. the republican party is standing by him. election.s on the he is trying to provoke other people to distract the main focus point. tweet register yesterday in baltimore? it started saturday afternoon and continued throughout the day and sunday morning. were people talking about this and elijah cummings' leadership representing the district? caller: of course. .e love elijah cummings
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the federal government should he able to help baltimore and our leadership. if the white house is not offering nothing what can the representatives do? they are doing their best. the federal government should be able to help with infrastructure what is the infrastructure plan he offers? host: the president's thoughts in real time, he tweeted again, if the president -- democrats are going to defend the radical left squad, it will be a long road to 2020. good news is they have to fake news media in their pocket. caller: he is a fake president because he calls somebody fake news, he calls the media fake news.
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-- you see the president calling fake news. why would you say fake news when the media says the president's approval rating is 50%? host: philip is next out of orlando, florida. independent. good morning. caller: good morning, john. good morning, c-span audience. first and foremost, i think people would do themselves justice to get an education on the subject of race in america. i wrote a book on race in america called "run in my shoes ." it gives a copperheads of analysis of what racism, how it started, and how we can go as a nation who wants to do better.
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on the subject of baltimore, maryland, i am a born native northern virginian and lived in maryland most of my life after college and i love the state, culture is great, the weather is not too great, so that is why i am in florida. racism is real, prejudice israel. the thing that keeps trump in office and keeps him going with his base is he has stated over and over that we need to do something about illegal immigration and i must admit that i am troubled with the fact democrats have not really addressed it the way it really breaks down in terms of our society. the first thing is the language when latins become
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indoctrinated, they will hire their own. i came to realize it when i worked. florida, how it you can be black, white, anything, you don't really get in. they kind of take over neighborhoods that way and i am opposed to that because it is not american. they don't really know a lot about our history and when they bring other prejudices from their country, especially when it comes to skin color, people don't realize that is the way they think. are moving too fast socially with what they bring to the table in terms of what they need to really do indoctrinated themselves better into the american culture. host: this is isabella out of massachusetts.
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good morning. caller: good morning, c-span. the bullying is absolutely toxic and our president doesn't seem to be capable of responding to the issues. what congressman elijah cummings was ranting and raving about and horrificly so was the condition of the children of the immigrant families trying to seek refuge in our family. thepresident trump to say absolutely disgusting, toxic shows he has been saying an absolutely demented mind. of governingable this country. we have to go forward with impeachment. this is unacceptable. not only is he bullying american
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citizens and the press, but other countries. what he is doing to iran is outrageous. there was a deal the previous administration was able to achieve. for him to put sanctions on the country means he is starving children over there, too. host: we will be focusing on u.s.-iranian relations at 8:00 and we will be joined by abbas , an author and scholar on this topic. if you wonder hear more on that. expected to meet at 3:00 p.m. this is senator chris murphy of connecticut who tweeted out he is on following the president of
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the united states on twitter because of his feed, that it is the most hate field -- hate filled, racist, and demeaning. toregularly ruins my day read it, so i am going to stop. baltimore is a great, american city. -- feesour challenges lowball, untrue, and discussing remarks will not divide us. one more from senator bob casey of pennsylvania. he wrote yesterday just like his description of african countries just like his assertion a judge of mexican defend could not hear a case involving him just like his promotion of the birther conspiracy, he keeps saying racist things and we must out.nue to block it
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that is bob casey on twitter. sundaylvaney was on the shows as well, fox news sunday asked about the president's tweets. [video clip] >> this is about the president fighting back against what he saw as being illegitimate .ttacks children sleeping or sitting in their own feces. not accurate,ght, borne by the fact mr. cummings has not been to the border and when the president hears lies like that, he will fight back and that is what he saw -- you saw in the tweets. to thedy objects president defending his border policies, but this seems to be the worst kind of racial
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stereotyping. black congressman, majority black district, no human being would want to live there. is he saying people who live in baltimore are not human beings? >> when the president attacks aoc plus three, he gets -- accused of being a racist. is doing the same, the president is attacking mr. cummings for saying things not true about the border. i think it is right for the president to raise the issue -- i was in congress for 6 years. if i had poverty and crime in my district, homelessness like in san francisco and i spent all my time in washington, d.c. chasing down this buehler investigation, this bizarre impeachment crusade, i would get fired and i think the president is right to
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raise that and i think it has zero to do with race. lines as usual this morning, line for democrats, republicans, and independents as well as a special line for baltimore residents. it is 202-748-8003 if you want to join in. keep calling as we show you a few other headlines from the last 24 hours including the president announcing on his twitter page yesterday that the director of national intelligence -- the president and dan coats at -- nuclear weapons program and severity of foreign threats to u.s. elections. the president replacing dan coats with john ratliff of
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texas. the president pleased to -- former u.s. attorney will leave and inspire greatness . the acting director will be named shortly and acting director until ratliff is confirmed by the senate. we will see what happens with that in the weeks ahead. a note on the two shootings that mass shootingswo getting a lot of attention in today's papers first out of san .rancisco three killed, 15 wounded and the gunman dead.
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this is how the san francisco chronicle reported, a gunman with an assault style rifle open fire at the gilroy garden woundingkilling three, 15. reported a second suspect in the shooting and a search continued late sunday night for that person. companion -- that is out in california and , tworday from new york lone gunman opened fire at a massive brownsville brooklyn block party late saturday night leaving a 38-year-old man dead and 11 others injured according to law enforcement sources telling the new york post andire corrupted -- erupted thousands of attendees were
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leaving. the violence was preliminarily blamed on two shooters who remained at large as of sunday. that reporting from the new york post on two mass shootings that took place over the weekend. we have phone lines set up for baltimore residents. is one of those represented by elijah cummings in ellicott city maryland -- ellicott city, maryland. caller: good morning. i am kind of disappointed because i think it is time to focus on what is going on in city of baltimore. stop spending all his time worrying about what is going on at the border. he hasn't done much for the city. it is not a safe area to go to for the most part and i think it
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is time. i would be a lot more pleased and impressed if he would focus on what is going on with his district and help the people in baltimore, whether or not that includes some kind of business center programs, something to deal with the violence, the lack of opportunity and whatnot in the city of baltimore. host: have you ever voted for elijah cummings in that district? caller: no, i have not. host: do republicans challenge elijah cummings? do they get much momentum? caller: they don't. it is extremely minimal. if an opponent gets 20% of the vote, that is the best it can do. in my case, i certainly have not voted for him. at the same time, i have voted for african-american republicans .ho have run against him
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unfortunately, i cannot get you the name off the top of my head. the whole city of baltimore is basically controlled by democrats who, in my mind, have not really done much for the city. some information about elijah cummings' representation. the district comprises over half of the city of baltimore and much of baltimore and howard counties. the district has a median household income of $60,000 according to the u.s. census bureau. that is the npr story. edward in greenbelt, maryland, you are next. caller: i am a proud african-american phd scientist. -- thisummings
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president's tweet storm, he cannot hold a stick to elijah. elijah has given his heart and his whole life toward helping cities like baltimore. reason this is happening, the republican party has turned its back on cities like baltimore and elijah cummings. i want to warn people before i get off, warn people that they must turn out the vote in swing states. this is a dangerous election we are coming up on and this president was elected by the electoral college. if people don't turn out and vote, this man will be in here again. and what happened to hillary clinton, the same thing happened to al gore.
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read your news, look at c-span, look at msnbc and fact check information. our brothers and sisters, the women are voting. they are the most powerful voting block. this man is the enemy of our state. thank you very much, c-span. host: romney is in pasadena, maryland, former pasadena resident. ronnie, go ahead. caller: i lived in baltimore for several years. i could not wait to get out. it is disgusting. everything he said is true. there are rats, roaches, rodents
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everywhere. walky wants to work -- even a block away -- the tourist attraction is inner harbor. that area -- it is horrible. there has been no improvement. he has been congressman since 1991. he startedis when representing that district. caller: and columbia, which is also his district, it is a suburb, so it is decent. there are still issues because it is so close to prince georges county and surrounding palette -- metropolitan have lived there, you have no idea. the schools are the worst in the country, but get the most
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funding in the country. there are people graduating that cannot even read. dan: perhaps you know rodrick's? long time opinion writer for the baltimore sun? caller: no, i don't read the baltimore sun. host: his column yesterday, here is a little bit more about the president's tweets and his statements and why he thinks it hurts the city of baltimore so much. he says the violence in baltimore is a 10 ton burden we feel, a drag on the city's progress. his worst defense came in this phrase when the president said no human being would want to live there. that is a deeply racist comment. the 600,000 plus who live here must be subhuman or defective human beings. he said this about a struggling city with the majority african-american population --
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play the race card as a reelection strategy. caller: i am so sick of everything being racist. was a white congressperson in that area, he would say the same thing. he criticizes, if they are black or other than white, everybody calls it a race thing. nobody wants to live in baltimore city. the voucher program that they give out, after a certain amount of time, they will give the opportunity for the recipients to move out of the county because it is safer. nobody wants to live in baltimore county. ask ben carson, he grew up there. host: the president calling elijah cummings racist about his
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response to the president's tweets, usa today focusing on the president's use of the term racism and racist saying he frequently accuses his critics of racism and they point to this month. telling minority congresswomen to go home and fix their countries of origin. pelosi said those remarks show plans to make america great again as all about making america white again. the president said that is a racist statement and called the 4 congresswomen a racist group of -- gumbel, anthony weiner, jon stewart, danny macy's department store and the president again saying yesterday elijah cummings is racist. you -- ian you -- can
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am not racist, this trump supporter. this whole thing about trump being racist is stupid. what has elijah cummings done for baltimore city since he has been in office? can anybody give a good answer to that because it is horrible. the smell is horrible. let's look the crime in baltimore city. it is terrible. i had to get my kids out. i had to take my landlord to court. there were 14 health code violations where i was living. host: this is michelle, republican in michigan, good morning. the previous caller hit the nail right on the head. it is what it is.
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just because these people happen to be a darker skin color than someone else, you are a racist. i don't buy that and i think trump is getting a bad rap. is trying to bring it to the attention of everybody else, including representatives of that area. just call it what it is, thank you. of maryland, a constituent of congressman cummings. caller: good morning. host: turn down your television so we can have a conversation over the phone. caller: good morning. i don't live where people are talking about, there are no rats
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in my area. i live two blocks from the golf course. this area has been a good area to live in. we have good schools, we are building a good school about three blocks from me and i detest those people saying cummings is not doing anything, he is doing something. go to the senior citizen center when he is up there and he will tell you what he is doing. stop talking about the president being not racist. how can he not be racist with -- when every word that comes out of your mouth a something about people of color? i don't think he is a racist, i think the president is demented. i think there is something mentally wrong with him. host: let me get you to respond to seth baron's piece talking about this twitter feud that
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erected -- erupted. baltimore is, as trump said, very dangerous and filthy. among the largest 30 american cities, baltimore has the highest crime rate and is a close second to detroit. for murders, baltimore is second to no other city with more than 50 homicides for 100,000 people, that puts charm city in the ranks of jamaica, venezuela, and el salvador in terms of lethality. caller: i am sorry, i don't see that. i don't live in the city, city. i live close to the suburbs. i don't see that. yes, we do have crime. it is up to the president to help us solve those crimes. cities cannot solve those problems themselves. the president should be doing more than he is doing. if he stopped tweeting and
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talked with these congresspeople and people in these cities, maybe we can do something better. host: this is brock out of new jersey. independent, good morning. caller: good morning, guys. i would like to give a few points. i want to thank our armed forces home and abroad, protecting us. i think that is really important. i dod, i want to say concur mental health is definitely one of the issues we are not discussing in america and i feel like it is rampant and something we need to put more money into. there are many issues. i would like people to understand trump was not a politician. this was not what he set out to
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do initially. with all that is going on with the people in his cabinet and all that stuff, i feel he is trying to do his best with what he knows, but i also feel like he does not have the adequate help. i would like to point out when he first got into office, there on been a lot of pettiness both sides and it seems like it is a bunch of children. it is more about who is right instead of what is right. host: when you say the president does not have adequate help, is he not hiring the right people for the jobs? caller: that is part of it. they say never do business with your friends and also it is like, who is he to trust? people have certain interests and some people did not even want to see him win. that can be discouraging and disheartening, especially when your intentions were to do good.
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i would like people to remember the conversation was he was the better choice of two evils. that was an issue. if hillary was in there, maybe things would be different. this is what we have now and we need to be behind him and make sure he is accountable for himself and the things he does because he also has children and i cannot wait for this to play out. i am thinking what does baron feel about the way he speaks. host: here is the president from aboutr yesterday talking what he has done in america for the african-american community saying african-american unemployment is the lowest, best in history, no president has come close to doing this before, i also created successful opportunity zones, waiting for nancy and elijah to say thank
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you. this is randy out of wisconsin, republican. good morning. today: your question starts out right and then use a racist, the only people yelling and screaming racist are the democrats. did you ever hear president trump say he is racist or hear him talk about black people? you had comments reading out of the paper where it is african-americans, they are all americans. host: the president tweeted yesterday "if racist elijah cummings would focus his energy on helping the people of his district, perhaps congress -- progress could be made." the president causing -- calling elijah cummings and nancy pelosi racist. caller: that is when they call him racist. is the people in the city and
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leaders of that state, they have to take care of their own -- president trump does not take care of that. americans. thanks, john. out of maureen is next alabama. a democrat, good morning. sayer: i wanted to say we one nation, under god, but god is nowhere in america and we haven't figured that out yet. book of revelations talking about a time when people who had eyes and could not see and ears and could not hear. prophecy is being fulfilled. here we are talking about baltimore and the babies are at in border suffering, kids cages. whos up to us for those know the truth, the truth is what is going to set us free.
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every day we wake up, we have a chance to get it right and for some reason, we are deceived. host: when it comes to race relations, is it getting better? is it getting worse? is beingrophecy fulfilled. this is something prophesies years ago. we don't see because we don't understand. llermo in philadelphia, democrat. you are next. caller: how are you? host: doing well. caller: i am a resident of sayadelphia and i want to if you want to see racism, go to the badlands. it is a puerto rican neighborhood and go around the city. any of the districts where democrats run the districts, go
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to them. if you want to see racism -- if racism is judged by how much dirt and rodents and trash on , crime -- if that is the judgment for racism, go to those parts. host: what should be the judgment of what is and is not racist when we have this sort of discourse from the president and a member of congress? caller: racism is going to be there all the time. it has been there since the beginning of humankind. host: is there nothing we can do about it? caller: what can we do about it? nothing. there is nothing we can do. if there is only one pie -- if it is only my country and their country, my country is going to get it.
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if there is only one pie and somebody else is going to get it, i am going to get it. it will always be there. democrats, though -- they say they are not racist, everybody is racist to one point or another. we can work together, but we have to admit you are one race and i am of another race. host: stephen is next out of baltimore, the line for callers from the city, independent. good morning. caller: good morning. i have been in baltimore for some time. lived in maryland and baltimore all my life. there are definitely problems and issues when it comes to poverty and poverty stands out. i think the point the president was making is elijah cummings has been one of our representatives for a long time. he is saying we are not addressing the problems.
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when you show dilapidated buildings that have been standing for 20 or 30 years, we continue to talk about the problems and show the trash behind the alleyways, we are not addressing the problems. if that has to do with race, i have no idea. i see it as we are not doing our jobs. we get upset when we point out people aren't doing our jobs. he just got rid of the intelligence agency person, donald trump is a person that believes in doing the job you are hired for and accomplish in and reaching goals. it is a crime in baltimore city -- i don't like to be in baltimore city. if you look at the news today, just in the shootings, we have definite issues -- i don't think it is about racism. i think we have a problem where we are not getting our jobs done and when we are held accountable for that, people get very upset
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when they are being held accountable for what you have been hired to do. aboutan interesting story the idea of racism. president trump and elijah cummings from hans nichols with the atlantic, a former reporter for the wall street journal and he shares a story about the two men, elijah cummings and president trump sitting down to talk about lowering prescription drug prices in the spring of 2017. the conversation took an unexpected term and they fell into a candid give-and-take about race. during the 2016 campaign, president trump planted -- painted black neighborhoods as health caves in which there was no way out. sitting together in the oval office that day, cummings was blunt and told the conch -- the president his words were
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insulting. trump did not get defensive or angry, he listened, taking it in. a bubbly nobody has ever told you that, he told the president. right, nobody has ever told me that." they parted on good terms and soon enough, it came undone. around that time, cummings was growing disillusioned with the president and did not believe what he told the president early in the year had made any real impression. phone calls stopped and what looked like a fledgling alliance between the men of different parties and backgrounds and races collapsed. if you want to read more from hans nichols, it is in the atlantic, that article posted yesterday. next out of
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good morning to the discussion we are having. caller: i think president trump should be much more discreet than he does and much more accurate -- accurately. he could attack representative cummings better than he has. as president, he does have a responsibility. however, he is not a racist. because the boy who cries wolf -- too often. everyone is a racist. when you keep calling people a racist when you disagree with them, you may get caught when a real racist gets there and people ignore you. time when was the last president trump chose to lower the temperature instead of raise the temperature? caller: i agree with that statement. it's very rare. he did right after the election.
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he made a beautiful speech. hillary clinton made no speech at all. either she was too drunk or upset to make a speech that night. she was very conciliatory. they were talking about impeachment the day after election. he did try. the president did not compare nazis to the protesters, he was comparing people tearing down the monuments to the people who think the monuments should be torn down. when he was going after aoc plus three, one of those was represented of presley and she said if you are black and do not speak with a black voice, you don't come to the table. queer -- her words, and you don't speak without boys, you don't come to the table. isn't that racist? isn't that homophone might --
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?omophobic that you have to speak a certain way if you are in those categories? both sides are doing it. if we are going to have an open discussion in america, these people need to be called out. in the meantime, overall, president trump should do a better job lowering the temperature, that i have to admit. host: talking about alexandria ocasio-cortez and squat, another member of the squad, rashida unionwas on state of the yesterday and asked about the president past remarks. here is that discussion. [video clip] >> p continues to say things about american cities across the country. our president has a hate agenda. right now, as people are in my district every single day, i talked to folks losing their jobs, not getting paid what they
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need, working three or four jobs to make ends meet. so many folks at the front line are suffering and they want somebody who will follow through on reducing prescription drugs. this hate agenda is seeking into policy agenda. you hear from residents downriver telling me constantly we have a right to breathe clean air, there is something going on and we don't feel like our government is protecting us. the is a crooked ceo in white house making decisions based on profits and what his for profit industry would benefit from versus what is done for the american people. we are not going to get played, especially in the congressional districts, we can see he is incompetent and has not followed through on the promises he made and people are hurting more and more.
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leave -- talibo on state of the union yesterday morning. we are talking about the and thet's tweets baltimorene for residents. mike on the line, a democrat. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you doing? host: doing well, go ahead. caller: listening to this president's comments and some of your audience's comments that even profess to be from baltimore, i have been in baltimore my whole life and they have no clue what is going on. first and foremost, i would like to point out we have a republican mayor in baltimore and to show i do not vote strictly -- i am democrat, but i don't vote strictly according to
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my party lines, i voted for this governor twice and i think he is doing an excellent job and even this governor thinks the president of the united states of america is out of touch with the needs of the american people, especially as it relates to maryland. baltimore city, yes, the murder rate is very high. however, these people are not murdering each other with butter knives. the president refused to address fightnd of gun reform or the nra in any form or fashion. he is helping the murder rate by not addressing the route concerns of the issue. baltimore city has a riot problem because we look and we see infrastructure is very poor and it has not been addressed by this president in any substantial bill to introduce infrastructure to baltimore city
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or any other state for that matter. why is there crime? lack of jobation, opportunity and we see drastic cuts in education and spending for schools. we see more schools closing than opening in baltimore city. at the root of baltimore city is this spirit to come together. we are rooted in faith and the idea that we can come together as one community. baltimore city predominantly is african-american. baltimore city is -- predominantly the african-american individual is at the lower spectrum of income in comparison to caucasian american people who have the higher perspective of income earning. systemiclook at the racism deeply embedded in
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baltimore city, this president's lack of understanding, you are forced to draw a conclusion which is pretty easy to draw that this president is a racist. if i go to a birthday party and dress up like a duck and like a duck and i have feathers on me, i am not concerned about what is at the root of my heart and in my heart, my art word -- outward expression determines that i am a duck. this president may not be a racist at his core, but he is wearing a racist suit. host: mike mentions the governor of maryland, larry hogan, a republican. the mayor of baltimore, a democrat, jack young. his statement yesterday from his twitter account in response to the president saying it is unacceptable for the political leader of our country to denigrate a vibrant american city like baltimore and attack
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elijah cummings, a patriot and hero. mr. trump possible rhetoric is hurtful and dangerous to the people he has sworn to represent . i won't stand for anyone, not even the alleged leader of the free world attacking our great city. mr. trump, you are a disappointment to the people of baltimore, our country, and the world. linda out of mississippi, a democrat, you are up next. go ahead. caller: yes. thanks for accepting my call. donald trump is a racist. he spends his days thinking of racist stuff to put out there. he is supposed to be the representative for the whole country. host: you wanted to add to that? caller: yes. these farmers out
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subsidies because he is not doing his job. if you don't do your job, you are fired. he is not doing his job. is to represent all states, not just his constituents. mississippi, tennessee all are red states. he is tweeting all morning and sleeping -- tweeting all night and sleeping all morning and insulting the country all day long. he is not doing his job. host: this is eric out of california. good morning. america.ood morning, i would like to talk about the concept of racism. racism can only be applied when you have power to do something about the situation. we are talking about baltimore, talking about poverty.
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the president has the power to do something about the situation with money, poverty. --s is why we defined the racism as referring to rich republicans because they have the power and money to do something about it. most americans are operating on credit today and credit is a slavery. slavery. slavery has not left america, it is just a choice. most people operate in that form of slavery. we are all in this conversation of poverty. there is racism in america through division of economic and when rich people refuse to sit there and talk about the problem, point the finger at the problem instead of providing funds to fix the problem, it is called racism. welcome to america, nothing has changed since 1776.
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let's start over and get it right, include everybody into the conversation. north, south, we are all one people. love america. compton.c out of a few comments from social media as we have been having this conversation. christina writing into this discussion, liberal democrats that run the city and state have let them down. the people running the city are letting them down. wake up and fix it. there is nothing racist in the president's criticism of the criminal neglect of baltimore's residents by democrats. trump has been in d.c. for years, why hasn't he done anything to clean up rat infested areas and cleanup crime? baltimore is at least trying. this five minutes left in
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discussion this morning. in about five minutes, we will turn to foreign policy and the discussion about the u.s. and iranian relations. we will be joined by abbas milani for that discussion and when it comes to foreign policy will beay, mike pompeo participating in a conversation club.. with the economic david rubenstein -- they expect discuss international relations and the usmca and other trade agreements. we will be airing that when it starts at 9:00 a.m. you can watch on c-span 2 and and listen on the radio app. lisa has been waiting out of laurel, maryland. go ahead. caller: good morning. i am in laurel, maryland, equidistant between baltimore
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and d.c. interesting listening to some of your callers. as an african-american, i don't ied any group to tell me when see, hear, experience, feel, racism. everything that comes out of this president's mouth that relates to black people is offensive. let's say he does not have racism in his heart, i don't know what is in his heart, but when i hear people say he is wearing a racist suit, i don't know why you would if it was not in your heart. i think back on the history of this country when we were not paid for the work we did to build this very land. you cannot tell me unemployment for blacks is lower. we had zero unemployment once upon a time and for the
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should bethat said we thanking trump for what he has done, i am still waiting to hear something trump has done that made a difference in my life. everything the former president tried to build up, he has gone around the world getting rid of, picking up his hind legs to piss on what barack obama did. host: an independent, good morning. caller: good morning. how are you, sir? host: doing well. caller: i am currently living in baltimore city. i work in baltimore city. i am an army veteran. hopefully i will be accepted into the police academy soon. my statement is i am not -- i moved outhy of a property owned by jared kushner, his son-in-law.
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up rental price has went every year. nothing has been improved. half the time, the air conditioning doesn't work. schools inse baltimore city and baltimore county, i am from prince georges county originally. i am not going to say the schools were immaculate, but you knew your child would go to school and sit in and a comfortable invite -- a comfortable environment. if his son-in-law owns so much thesety, give back to schools. millions of dollars are missing every year when it comes down to the physical, financial thing going on and they give money to each state, baltimore has not had air conditioning since the 1980's when i was living in d.c. this is ridiculous. if you cannot see it, you have blinders on. it seems like most of donald
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trump's supporters seem to be who feelite people like something is being taken from them just because someone equaling to have a living. the cost of living is getting outrageous and things we have not had in years we are now andng to get a tidbit of it they are looking at us like we are owed something. because saying we are everybody has an equal opportunity to get out and work, but if you keep stopping people and putting roadblocks in the way, health care -- health care for the elderly and people with pre-existing conditions being snatched underneath of them. you have a copayment either way, but that will allow you to have that pivotal thing to make you live longer. i feel like the trump administration -- and i served under bush.
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i went in right after 9/11. i served my country for 7 long years. host: alvin saying he used to live in a kushner owned property. a story you can see there in the washington post about the properties the kushner company's own in baltimore. they started operating in maryland in 2013 and owned almost 9000 rental units across 17 complexes. the properties generate at least $90 million in annual revenue. kushner stepped down as chief executive in 2017 when he became a senior white house advisor. baltimore county officials revealed apartments owned by the kushner firm were sponsored more for more than 200 code violations all accrued in a span repairsendar year, a --
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were made only after the county threatened fines. violations on 9 properties were not addressed. the washington post taking a deep dive in that topic. one more call in this topic. steve has been waiting caller: how are you? i used to live close by baltimore -- the glen bernie area. disagree with trump and i despise the guy, he needs -- he has a point. baltimore need help. a lot of people need help. stop bashing the people and do something to make it better. be accountable for yourself. the people in power to do something, instead of complaining about trump making a
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comment, go out and do something about it. i hope and pray baltimore in all cities around the country take this opportunity -- instead of bashing him and saying he is a racist -- he might be a racist -- i think he is an opportunist racist. he said something to have an opportunity after that. -- threeore you go people do you think they are doing something about cities that need help -- elijah cummings, larry hogan, your republican governor of maryland, and president trump. hologic commons has been there since 1995, 19 96 -- i guess he is doing -- elijah cummings, he has been there since 1995, 1996. i guess he is doing the best that he can. larry hogan, he has been some good, some bad.
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i don't know why baltimore seems to get left behind. it needs to be better. he needs to start from the inside and go up from there. do you -- host: do you think president trump is doing anything for cities? caller: president trump is doing nothing but sitting in his bed, watching foxnews, tweeting, and granting the rest of the day. host: steve in maryland. our last caller on the segment. plenty more to come. next, abbas we are joined by author and professor abbas milani -- author and professor abbas milani on tensions in the run, and later, laura lightbody will be here to discuss what needs to be done to better prepare communities for floods with the national flood
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insurance program. while the house is on its august recess, the senate is in today. it's been chatted about today -- c-span chatted's about today's actions in the chamber. >> the chamber holding three votes monday on whether to veto on the president's resolutions blocking u.s. arm sales. president veto those resolutions? niels: the president believes interference by congress in his conduct in foreign policy and believes the arms sales themselves are vital for national interest particularly regarding u.s.-saudi relations and
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security in the middle east and the persian gulf. vetoes were-- the to be expected, but congress has been on a bipartisan basis frustrated with the president and his administration's handling of relations with saudi arabia, involvement in the support of the saudi-led campaign in yemen, and it was a debate -- we know the way this is going to end with these resolutions -- the vetoes being sustained, but it is an exercise both parties want to go through. >> it is part of a busy week in the senate and your "roll call" piece headline reflecting that will --week the senior the senate will consider a budget and two senior officials.
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who are those officials? niels: we are looking for secretary norquist to win the position. the other position mitch mcconnell is as a key position for confirmation is the to the united nations. kelly kratz, who is trump's nominee for that position, is the current ambassador to canada, and probably, importantly as well, because it is mcconnell who sets the schedule, she lives in kentucky and she and her husband are major supporters of mcconnell and his political operation. >> "washington journal" continues. host: professor and author abbas milani joins us for a conversation on iran.
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i want to start with a recent column you wrote in "the hill" newspaper. here is what you write in that -- "the great majority of the iranian people have shown a desire to have a government that abides by democratic laws at home and international norms around the world. how do we know that to be true about the iranian people? guest: we know it in several ways. when we know it from every american journalist that has toveled iran to and talked iranian people. if you look at the last two elections, people have essentially, in the controlled, 's has,ed elections iran voted for candidates who have said they want iran to be a member of the national community. we do not have a lot of good
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polling evidence, but iran people of our tired of this regime. they want a more law-abiding regime at home. they want a less corrupt and listen competent -- less incompetent regime at home. do you think the majority want the regime to go? guest: i don't have empirical 14 dissidents wrote a public letter saying the supreme leader has to go. host: how unusual is something like that? guest: that letter is unusual. have are 14 people that this leader demand has corrupted the country, bankrupted the country.
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his time is up. in trying to help the world understand what is happening in iran, what role do you see for iranians living outside of iran? 10% ofalmost about iranians live outside. do for this can lead -- the transition to democracy in jewish people have done for israel, using scientific, digital capital to make this transition to a democratic iran easier. host: who are some of the most important voices on that front? success inou look at
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the business world, there are many, many iranian members that are critical numbers of google, for example. the man that has endowed our program at stanford university -- he runs a company that is in the 100 greatest countries -- companies in the world. -- biggest companies in the world. ofre are many examples successful iranians who want to help iran transition. cap stanford university, it is the -- at stanford iranianty, it is that democracy project. during this as we take -- join us as we take your calls. phone calls if you want to join the number -- as usual, democrats --
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republicans independents host: we want to talk about your story. when did you come to the united states and why? guest: i came to the united states twice. i came in the 1970's to go to school. i went immediately back to iran. from 1975 until 1987 i lived in worked inorking iran -- worked in iran. began to speak at a liberal arts that work at a liberal arts college. studiesd the iranian program at stanford and the .emocracy project as we always say, this could only happen in america. host: before you left america,
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you were a political prisoner? guest: i was. under the shaw, i was for a year. i was opposed to the regime. then jimmy carter came and pushed for human rights policies .n iran i am a prime example of how these policies actually work. i was in prison when human rights policies by carter were announced, and you can see a .aily change in prison within a few months, every political prisoner in iran was let go. .his is not rhetorical bombasts when the president of the united states defends human rights or he doesn't, they have consequences. host: where you tortured? iran guest: i can -- guest: i came at the end of torture. i was in solitary confinement for a month, which is an absolute form of torture. i saw people beaten up.
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the worst of torture had already ended by the time i can. book, aknow you wrote a biography of the shop. talking about your time there, you might, when you were in prison -- met when you were in prison, some of the current leaders of iran, who were already political prisoners at the time. who ofvirtually a who's the future iranian regime and they had been opposed to the shaw. some of the more transient then, and some were much more tolerant than liberals in this position. -- a remarkable character, was designated to be the successor to home any and when he saw there was torture in iran, hypocrisy, he called him out for
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it and they took away his job, put him under house arrest. it is a remarkable profile in courage. host: who is the most important leader in iran that americans do not know a lot about? guest: i think americans do not i.ow enough about homan they hear his name. he has been clearly the chief architect, but they do not know how profound his anti-americanism is, how polished it is, how he developed translating how many -- homani translated four of his books. to understand how profoundly anti-modern and western he is,
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we need to look at his background. politicking. host: how does he live -- to see have a large staff? guest: a very large staff to the office of the supreme leader -- this office now has 12,000 employees. he has expanded the office to become an empire. more importantly, he controls somewhere close to $90 billion --$100 billion of assets companies confiscated by the in 1979, or funds that he controls and he does not give accounting to anyone. in 1979, orhe, in terms of thee controls, i think supersedes even mr. putin.
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guest: -- host: does he control president rouhani? guest: he absolutely controls president rouhani he controls the entire system. as you begin your introduction, there are people of iran trying to fight this. they are trying to fight misogyny and have found brilliant ways of fighting in a civil, disobedient way in a manner not dissimilar to the civil rights movement in this country. host: a lot of calls for you. mat. orange park, florida. you are up for this morning with professor and author, abbas milani. thank you for taking my call. rising tensions -- we have a
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the iranian -- opposition -- many of them think about creating tension. about making money. how can we trust them and be helpful -- hopeful? ?ost: abbas milani guest: if i misunderstood your question, i apologize, but i think he would complaining about some who are trying to get the united states into a war with iran. i think you're right. there are some trying to do that , and you are absolutely right, i don't think they can be trusted because i think the solution to iran's problem is
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not through a war. there are many, many more beenans that have consistently opposed to the idea of the war. i have written numerous articles -- i have written articles with mike mcfarland, larry diamond -- op-ed pieces, books, that say the future of the ron has to be has to be -- of iran determined by the iranian people. you're right. the united states has a role to play in helping the iranians get to the future they want, but it is their future and they have to determine it and war won't help. war would only in my view help the most radical, most brutal, anti-american elements of the iranian regime and war would only help russia and china. the iranian regime is inching
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ever closer to russia and china, and in terms of the geo strategic implications, i think we have to consider what applications it has in that time -- that kind of long-term relationship. out: you write that one way is a situation that might appear to be a lose-lose for both sides. explain what you mean. guest: i was referring to were secretary schulz has repeatedly , where he says we have decided when we were making deals with the soviets and realize the soviets want to make concessions, but they do not want to be humiliated, so we allow them to make concessions and never declared victory. the idea of pushing the iranian regime to make every concession a public concession and then be humiliated about it i think it's not going to work. clearly think the iranian regime feels the pressure and
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but for make some deal domestic races, they need to sell those, not as concessions, defeats for-- other the united states, victories for themselves, or a draw. when it was signed originally, how do they sell that to the iranian people? guest: they sold it in a traditional way that the clergy sells things. they worked both sides of the fence. allowed rouhani to sell this as a victory. mr. khamenei, who had been involved in every bit of the negotiation, kept his distance, saying i don't trust the americans, we should not have made this deal. he played the role of first promoting, making possible, then acting as its critic. supporters consider
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the deal one of the worst deals in iran's history because they said iran has made too many concessions. host: are you surprised there was a recommitment yesterday from iran and five of the world powers --iran, germany, france, russia, to salvage the nuclear deal. host: i wasn't surprised, because there is no gain at this time for iran to say we are walking out of the deal. iran needs very much to keep europe on inside, to keep china and russia on its side, and if iran unilaterally declares we are pulling out, they will lose any possibility of heaping that coalition, which they desperately need to help with the economic fiasco that is the iranian economy. host: gilbert, arizona. alex is an independent. good morning. caller: thank you.
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whatted to ask mr. milani, role should world powers play in helping restore democracy in iran without leaving a power vacuum such as libya or iraq? guest: i think that is a great question. the way the international community can do this is make it very clear to the iranian regime that the world is watching, that abuses of human rights are not going to go unpublished -- unpunished. people that commit these crimes might be held accountable to international court. there will be limits on travel for people who commit these crimes against iranian people and abuse human rights, and at the same time making very clear that the world is watching, that the world is on the side of the iranian people. withmmit to the idea -- future of a ron has to be turned over to the people of iran.
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is our guest.lani professor from stanford university and author as well. john is in new york city. a democrat. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am a journalist. i read your article on "the hell." i have some questions. you declared the guard force as a terrorist organization can you did not say anything about thenk removed from the list of the said trump- you should play a page from reagan's playbook. it seems that you support dividing iran into some parts,
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and as i have heard from some of in losian friends angeles, who followed the late leader of the islamic republic, and you have participated in demonstrations -- it is ridiculous. guest: there are several aspects of what you said. first of all, you clearly did not read the article carefully. i did not think it is a good thing that the u.s. declared irg c a terrorist organization. it.mply didn't -- described i thought much of it was already 10 -- declared a terrorist organization in the u.s. designation became an empty gesture. stepsr side has taken any to fight this terrorist on the
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other side. just create fraud situation. nowopposition group is ased in national what does it stand for? guest: [indiscernible] an islamic group involved in terrorism activities under the shop. they killed some americans. they fought the iranian regime. they committed many acts of terror against the regime. they killed some 12,000 of the regime. the regime has been very brutal against them. they have been very militant against the regime. then they went and became allies with saddam hussein, and saddam
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hussein gave them a base. when saddam hussein fell, the u.s. was facing a dilemma -- what you do with this group that was an ally of saddam hussein, but an enemy of the united states? them transferlp out of iraq. they are based in albany. they were on the u.s. terrorist list for many years. they took the u.s. government to court four times to be taken off the list and i did not mention them because they were not part of the discussion i was having can i cannot mention every issue you are interested in -- having. i cannot mention every issue you are interested in. and when you are referring to your friends in los angeles -- i don't know who your friends are, but you don't need to defend on your friend in los angeles to you can read what i have written. i have written a memoir. i have described that i was an opponent of the shop. i went to prison under the shop. i have looking -- written a book
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that looks at the period from the scholarly point of view. it has sent many readers inside of iran, including some of your los angeles friends, maybe. nna.: a out of philadelphia. an independent. caller: i have two blunt questions -- is there some sort alliance between britain, the united states, and israel to dominate the area because they seem to be pushing for war and all we have is loss of life. also, with the saudi's and what is going on in their area. the second one, israel is now called the jewish state of israel -- how is that acceptable, and iran not having a religious state? thank you. guest: i don't know about secret
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deals because they are secret and i am not privy to secrets, but is there a unified policy between the united states and -- i don't think so. i don't think there has been the last two years. the united states, particular since the trump administration, britain has seen it differently. the trump policy is much more aligned, as you seem to indicate, with israel and saudi arabia. saudi arabia has been trying to get the states to fight iran because saudi arabia sees iran as its main challenger. it cannot confront iran militarily. it thinks the only force that can contain iran would be the united states, and they have been trying to get into this with the united states. every move israel, towards making israel only a
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jewish state and not a democratic jewish state -- every palestinians,ives israeli citizens, arab citizens iranianl, allows the regime to use that for propaganda. it allows the iranian regime to position itself as a friend of the palestinians and an enemy of israel. guest: -- host: we talked about the news yesterday. on twitter, this comment -- deal, the up the iran signaling not to trust the u.s. government's deals and promises. he should have built upon it, instead negotiating. trump is demanding iran give up its own security defense tool. i wonder your thoughts on that. sentence,ept the last
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almost everything that caller wrote is something i wrote. that is exactly what we said. we set the nuclear deal had some flaws, but the united states should have stayed in it, and from within made iran make some of those changes. clause int having the the nuclear deal about the missiles and not having the discussion about them in right during the nuclear deal was one of the flaws of the deal. deal,a supporter of the and i thought the trumpet ministration should have stayed within it but made a concerted international effort to make the necessary changes. potential ofk the war is right now -- what do you
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think the potential for war is right now? presidenton't think trump wants a war. it is a pity that lawyers in the middle east have cost -- he has with thethat war middle east has cost millions of dollars and gotten the nine states little in return -- the united states little in return. iran cannot afford a war. because the economy is in shambles. guest: we talked about -- host: we talked about names americans should know. -- is general i think he is possibly one of the candidates for taking over. they are clearly placing him in a position to be a knight in
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shining armor to take over. is khamenei? is 79, but hei has been sick. he has cancer. his health does not seem to be well. -- has been been the leader of what is called the brigade, the terrorist arm of the irgc. host: the revolutionary guard. guest: the revolutionary guard. i have been involved in syria, iraq, yemen. three years ago, he was a person in the shadows. now he has come out in the shadows. he is very much praised in iran is the most powerful general in the region, and in the last few
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weeks you see a clear change in the way they are packaging him. they are now packaging him as the savior of the economy. they put him in command of a special unit. imagine if the president of the someone ines ordered a unit ofl forces -- the special forces -- commander of the special forces, to be in charge of fixing the u.s. economy. that is what has happened in iran. host: when you say they, this is being done at the direction of the supreme leader. would it happen otherwise? thet: it is ostensibly at direction or acceptance of the supreme leader, but if you --low some of the clips that has put on his website, his recent websites have had clips where he is on par with khamenei
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. khamenei is not the commander-in-chief anymore. there are two leaders side-by-side talking. clearly, he is either gcsitioning himself or the ir is positioning him as the next powerful leader. host: one more call, jacob out of fairfield, new jersey. a democrat. let's see if we can get him in. jacob, go ahead'. . jacob, are you with us? guest: jacob, i inside. host: i will give you last 30 seconds to discuss what to look for the next few weeks on iran -u.s. relations. guest: i am looking forward to what europe is trying to do, the iranians are trying to do, finding a way to avoid the total
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collapse of the deal in making the situation more fraught. i am hoping there is not another military confrontation of sorts because one of these could get out of hand and then i think we will have disaster. ,ost: professor abbas milani appreciate your time. next, we'll be joined by laura lightbody, who leads the flood prepared communities project at the pew charitable trust. we will discuss community preparing for floods. later, stephen wertheim of the quincy institute for responsible to talkft will join us about that think tank and foreign policy around the globe. stick around. we'll be right back. ♪
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it seems like every day now really on the front page -- the flood insurance program is one of those programs that really is sending a bad signal to these areas. what it does is it was created in the 1960's as a way to reduce the cost of disasters for the federal government and improve the way that we plan and develop our communities so that flooding does not impact those communities. 1968,deral government, in created the national flood insurance program, offered subsidized, at reduced-rate risks for insurance. host: and its financial state right now? guest: today it is $20 billion in debt. it has been here before. we are back in the red and congress has to reauthorize this program. it expires at the end of september. it has been on what we call know
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i can change extensions since -- what we call no-change extensions. we have seen a lot of flooding. host: you say it has been here before. didn't congress wipe away a bunch of debt associated with the program couple of years ago? guest: yes, $16 billion worth away. we are back here, $20 billion. it is possible there are proposals on the table that congress wipes it away again, but what is more important to -- then the debt is making sure we e again,t into this hol and that comes with long-term change in the program. host: what is being done when it comes to reform? guest: there are a lot of hoses on the table. it is not a one-shot solution to flooding, unfortunately.
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it is a large and dynamic issue that impacts 50 states. itryone says where it rains could flood appeared we're all impacted by it. some of the proposals on the table need to be on -- up for discussion. how do you put the program on financial footing? we need to offer rates that actually reflect true flood risks. secondly, we need to invest in litigation. communities are cash-strapped around the country to do things like enhancing storm water management, buying out properties that have flooded over and over again. investing in nature, green parks so that water -- nature can really absorb water to reduce the flooding so it does not spread across communities. host: we are talking with laura lightbody. if you want to join the conversation -- phone lines are split up.
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central time zones, to to how: to give you a sense of americans are using the flood insurance program, here is a map from earlier this year out of charleston, south carolina, showing claims paid by part of the country -- the larger circles on this map -- the larger the circle, the larger the claims have been paid. you can see where the flood insurance program has been used. when it comes to the reauthorization, is there any chance this program does not get reauthorized, and if so, what happens? guest: there is not a big appetite for this program to lapse. unlike other big reauthorization bills, the farm bill, or the defense reauthorization bill, the program has to be reauthorized. if it doesn't, there is a lapse, but insurance policies cannot be
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written. it is disruptive to homeowners trying to purchase a new home. there is not a big appetite to let it lapse. it is very likely congress will reauthorize it, but we need to reform it so we can fix the problem. host: for folks that want to track this --what committee doesn't it go through in congress and where does it stand? guest: the senate banking committee on the senate side has jurisdiction over the flood insurance program. on the house side it is the house financial services committee. the house financial services committee took up and passed a bill earlier this year. they are looking when they come back from recess, taking it up, and it is likely that will pass out of the house. really moves over to the senate. we are moving -- looking to the senate to take some leadership on this. host: -prepared communities is our topic, taking your phone calls with laura lightbody.
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susan out of mclain, virginia. good morning. caller: i find the topic interesting and i have had this question i've been talking to my neighbors about because here in virginia, close to the sea, we had -- d.c. we had the first know was art flooding -- no was arc like flooding. we know there are these pockets where there is severe flooding because of what has been built years, the topography, the change in the landscape -- it seems like there byds to be a huge push private entities, foundations, and the government to say, for example -- i'm curious to know if this ever comes up in things that you write about or talk to congress about -- you know, when new orleans has been flooded for the 100th time and these homes are below seawater, there needs to be a big effort to just not
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rebuild in certain parts of the country, it seems, and help these communities move up to dryer land or relocate rekey -- committees in some ways, which sounds awful, but i cannot imagine these communities being flooded over and over again with more than half of a foot of water. i am curious about the national conversation. host: thank you for the call. guest: you bring up a lot of good points and it is difficult -- we're talking about homes and communities across the country. people have lived in places for a very long time. there are solutions. the best solution is not being there in the first place, and the second solution is figuring out how to reduce the risk and one of those options is moving people out. we are seeing it work across the country. nashville, tennessee, has used what is called buyouts. we are buying out properties
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that have flooded over and over again, moving those people to another area, and then keeping that space to open green space and creating an amenity for the community. sometimes it can be a part, a recreation area that will bring economics and an attractive area to the community. when it floods, it is ok because it is green space. these roads, these critical pieces of infrastructure -- oneis our flooded, we cannot get to. host: the term is repetitive loss property. does the national flood insurance loss program continue to ensure properties after they have flooded the first, second, or third time? it does. there are roughly about 150,000 of these properties across the country. they have historically represented a small amount of the claims, but a large percentage of those payouts.
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so, they are a large financial drain on the program. roughly about $12.5 billion over the years. that is about half of the amount of debt that the program has today. one of the ways of -- tackling the financial solvency of the program is reducing the growth of the properties that flood over and over again. guest: -- int: has there been thought the see, not just asking individuals like you to move out of your home, but really taken a in the reauthorization to provide money to relocate as opposed to rebuild? guest: one of the proposals if you would like to holistic viewf the community to look at what is the problem in this community -- how can we reduce the risk? is it because we put in the new building upstream and now this neighborhood downstream as flooding -- is it the roads, the storm water management system is outdated and not able to capture
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all of this water? that is one of the solutions on the table. -- there is to invest are proposals that passed out of the house financial services bill that would put billions of dollars into mitigation -- risk reduction before flooding happened. host: it is early in hawaii, but allen gave us a call. yes, it is early. when i saw the topic, i thought it would be interesting. you know, hawaii gets flooding. many places get flooding. something brought to my attention a few years ago -- you probably are familiar with it -- i happen to pull one item up on the internet called the point foundation project that structures, when they rebuild or ready for the first time our point enough, possibly with pillars that allow the structure to actually rise under flooding
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so the structure is like a boat of sorts. it cannot drift away, but it can element. -- elevate. i'm curious about that as part of mitigation for committees that cannot relocate or are not willing to --if that is an option. host: thank you for the call. --thankting up early or you for getting up early or staying up late. what works in hawaii is very different than what works in mclain, virginia, so really, working with the city officials, the architect, elected officials to understand what will work in the community and reduce loss. there are a lot of innovative solutions on the table. the best thing we can do now that we understand the risk is not put more people and more assets in harm's way.
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host: what works in texas? guest: texas really took this on -- the legislature meets every two years. of of pressure on that legislative body to do something to help the state recover because they are still recovering from the flooding that cost about $125 billion in damages. the governor signed into law a couple of really important things that would require watershed level planning so that originally the state is looking at how do we reduce loss and life and impact to property. and the second is they invested $800 million in mitigation. that is roughly three times more than the federal government invests annually in mitigation. that is a very robust amount of funding. host: what is an example of what
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that money will do? guest: they will go through what is essentially a rulemaking process to figure out the guidelines for how the money is it is basic recovery funds. they set aside a pot of money to go towards things like enhanced infrastructure, river restoration, letting things flow the way they naturally should. buying out properties that have flooded over and over again, and restoring those areas back to green space -- adding more green, taking out some of the great. we know -- gray. we know some of the gray is not sometimes the best solution. host: two brooklyn, new york. good morning. david. caller: good morning. can you hear me? host: yes. caller: i live in a flood zone
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in greenpoint, brooklyn. they call it a flood don't because it is lower with its relationship with the east river. 2007, i was actually astonished when i was watching the repair of the streets in our boroughs that i eventually began to look at -- the old pavements. they don't cover the storm drains and when they put down new pavement, they don't cover the storm drains. intoof hot asphalt falls storm drains here in the city. i went around to different boroughs while doing different repairs of streets -- this is not just repairs. this is complete repaving of the streets. i have written letters at the time to mayor bloomberg, and to
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all of our officials, and nothing was done subsequently. the subcontractors from the department of transportation just simply ignored the fact. i have taken pictures. i have taken pictures of the storm drains. host: thanks for bringing it up -- is it something you have looked at when it comes to flood-prepared communities? guest: one of the things we have looked at and research has shown not only is infrastructure outdated with some of the stormwater projects in cities and across the country, but it is outdated and has been under-invested in over the years. not only is it crumbling, but it is not really serving our needs in terms of flood risk reduction. congress is now talking about infrastructure. it seems every week's infrastructure week these days. as we are looking at infrastructure solutions, we have to make sure that future risk is incorporated.
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decisions.ays been -- we have always made decisions based on the past, and we want to make sure if we're going to rebuild a road, put up a new bridge, those projects are going to be there when the sea levels have risen more and the climate has changed more. host: georgia. brad. good morning. caller: good morning. what i would hope your guest would be able to speak to is the shelexity of this issue -- brought up the infrastructure and time investment to the infrastructure conversation we're having, but the fact that there are so many federal departments involved in this, from those who gather the data -- from those who create the models that are certified to use the data, to fema, who manages is largely just an insurance program, although they have put money aside for mitigation based on prediction
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which is based on problem mistake modeling versus -- deterministic modeling. is there a time to look at how we incorporate some efficiencies across those agencies to handle this larger problem? i'll take my answer off-line. thank you. guest: there is a role for the federal government. you are right -- there are a lot of different entities engaged in this. one of the things we are looking at now is what is the role of states starting to reduce risk. we are seen states are rolling up their sleeves, trying to be proactive. you have washington state, new jersey, north carolina, virginia -- they are all going -- undertaking today, governor-mandated, state-wide training processes because they have recognized some of these silos are not working.
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what you do downstream impacts of stream and vice versa. i think having states get some skin in the game and figure out with the can do support of the federal government will drive decisions about building, developing, and planning. about five minutes left with laura lightbody. if you want to join the conversation -- host: one of the issues i know you have written about his disclosure of flooded properties were repeated flood properties when it comes to selling some of these properties. can you talk through that issue? right now there is no federal requirement that ace expose-- that a seller
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that a property has flooded. much like carfax, we need that for homes. we want to know the school district, property taxes -- the crime reports, so why shouldn't we be able to with the flood risk profile of the home is. there are opposes that would put this in place -- requiring states to pass laws. of getting aty understanding risk. i want to know when i go into a new neighborhood or a new home what the flood risk of the new home is because maybe i won't buy it or maybe i will factor flood insurance into the cost of my mortgage. maybe mitigation needs happen. it is really important. congress needs to take that on. there are proposals on the table. -- t: host: arthur states that have taken that on?
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guest: texas improved disclosure requirements. we have seen pockets. state-by-state, they very, but not all 50 states have the, sort of, robust information. it will be seen to see what role zillow and redfin can play in providing that information. host: karen. wellington, delaware. good morning. caller: hello. host: go ahead, karen. you are on with laura lightbody. guest: i have a storm water runoff creek in the middle of my property. years ago, the army corps of engineers decided they would redo the whole bridge and when they read it all of the state changed the trajectory of the water flow. they used to build both -- build boulders. they never used any kind of bou.
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they never used any kind of mesh to hold for the boulders in place. as the years have gone by and the storms -- the water has forced these boulders down into this warm water runoff creek. locks off the water. government, and i am ready to call my governor. this warm water runoff creek. locks off the water. the water is not flowing properly and i have contacted my local government, my state when they do these projects they don't think about what happens in the future when they don't maintain them. everyone around them -- around here pretty much has to have flood insurance and if you are paying $700 a month for flood insurance, that money should go to maintaining the stormwater runoff creek's. your policyt what is -- $700 a month? a low month. i had to go, years ago, when we purchased our house, we were
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required to have flood insurance and we could not understand why because we are so much higher than the bfe, so the engineer came out. they did everything they had to do and they told us that our garage was in a floodplain. so, bank of america was taking $526 out of my escrow to cover for the flood insurance for a garage that we do not even park in. so, we went and got the engineer. they told us that the bottom of our garage was -- are you ready for this -- one half inch below , so they required us to have flood insurance for a garage. host: thank you. laura lightbody, what you take from that? guest:the folks that have led insurance and go through a flood
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related disaster are much better off. the federal government tries their best to make those people whole. those who do not have flood insurance will get a little bit of money. we see a lot of uninsured losses. the folks that have flood insurance. if you look back at hurricane sandy, those who had it received $80,000 on average. those who did not, we are talking $10,000. it can feel like a heartburn as you are writing that annual check, but it is that first line of defense. rose, good morning. caller: thank you for this segment. i sell flood insurance. i am also a sandy victim. i totally agree with everything you said. flooding,oundwater that is what the definition of
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flood in line b. when you start out with the distance of water, everyone dismisses the whole definition. mortgage companies, state governments, everybody. it has to be getting to the bigger players. if a mortgage company demands homeowners, which they do. if i talked to that mortgage company, you should have a flood policy. they disagree. they don't have to. bankse to bail out the like in 2008. peopley best to convince because i was a sandy victim and in the insurance industry 35 years. i think it really should come through the states and municipal governments. the federal government is trying to take care of everybody all
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the time, not that this administration is doing its best. they have to do something about that two letter word, groundwater flooding. if you have groundwater flooding in the people think i am covered for hurricanes -- flooding, people think i am covered for hurricanes. wrong. host: laura lightbody, i will give you the last minute. guest: one of the things we know is if policy does not change and maintain the status quo, hurricanes and floods are going annually $17 billion. assumingtatus quo, none of these major catastrophic events that have caused much more than that. all levels have responsibility in helping to reduce that loss.
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we are hoping policy will take a perspective in reducing lost so we are not back here in 50 years. host: you can see the work of the perspective pew research bo. next, stephen wertheim of the quincy institute for responsible statecraft. we'll talk about u.s. foreign-policy around the world. here is president trump talking about the readiness of america's for his newly confirmed defense secretary. [video clip] >> i have absolute confidence that mark will ensure our incredible military is prepared to defeat any foe. no enemy can match the awesome might of the american army,
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navy, air force, coast guard. and the united states marines. we had a budget approved when i first came in, billions and billions of dollars more than it was previously. 700 billion dollars. 716 billionto dollars. i won't even tell you what this one is i can only tell you it is even more. rebuilt things that nobody even thought of rebuilding. we have added the greatest planes of the world. we have upgraded our nuclear, very powerful, including new. we never want to have to use it. we pray to god we never have to use it, but we have the best in the world in every aspect.
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the site of american warriors brings solace into the hearts of our friends and strikes fear into the hearts of our enemies. our military today is more beforel by far than ever . three years ago, we could not have said that. our wariven -- giving fighters tools they need to fight and win with overwhelming force after years and years of budget cuts. after all the things they have been doing to set us back, we have more than made up for all of it. we are building new tanks and ships and submarines and planes and missile systems to ensure that our warriors operate with unrivaled capability in conflict during any battlefield will be a battlefield on which we win. >> "washington journal"
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continues. host: stephen wertheim is the cofounder of the quincy institute for responsible statecraft. how do you define responsible statecraft? guest: we define it in a number of ways. responsible statecraft is something that builds a peaceful world. it is something that takes peace to be the norm and war the exception. heard president trump talk about his military buildup. i'm not sure anyone really believes this administration has a coherent strategy for using our or a theory of how that power is going to produce peace. what we think at the quincy institute is that responsible statecraft will be more peaceful and more strategic than what we have seen in the current administration and for several
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decades the collapse of the soviet union. host: explain the name. why invoke america's sixth president? guest: we look back at john quincy adams's speech as secretary of state, 1841. it is something that resonates with how we view our situation today. john quincy adams said that america should not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. he said something else. to becomerd the u.s. obsessed with military adventurism, it would threaten its own civic life it might become the dictator of the world, but it would never -- no longer rule its own spirit.
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i think that is worthy of serious contemplation in the 21st century when in the first several decades we find ourselves now with anti-foreign sentiments, a nativist movement, the kinds of fears that deadly foreigners are coming to kill us have been present in our politics over decades even though our main rival, the soviet union, collapsed. the u.s. is a fundamentally safe and secure country. we have gotten to the point where our actions are generating more enemies and more fear and hatred then necessary. wertheim is our guest for the next half hour. he is the senior research fellow and thebus university research director at the quincy
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institute for responsible statecraft. you can call in if you want to talk about it. democrats (202) 748-8000. republicans (202) 748-8001. independents (202) 748-8002. your financing has gotten a lot of attention because of where the money is running from. in an astonishing turn, george soros and charles koch team up to and u.s. forever war policy, talking about your backers. how did those to come together? guest: the five people who cofounded this institute, we have put together our statement of its goals, which is available on our website, and we have come up with an agenda for ending endless war and the conditions that produce endless war. we were fortunate that these two prominent backers wanted to be
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some of our initial funders we have others as well. i think it is a sign that there is a trans-partisan movement of foot. right ande on the some people on the left, some people in the center as well are finding that if they are going to put in and to endless war, they will have to work together, together, maybe hold their nose over a couple of issues, but go through that process of working together to champion peaceful solutions to international conflict. these are areas where they overlap. i think the quincy -- quincy institute will be an experiment. we will be nonpartisan. we are also trans-partisan. that means not compromising somewhere in the middle, wherever the middle happens to be, but all making different arguments, arguments that we really believe in that converge
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in the area where we do agree, which is to put an and to the profligate use of military force abroad. websiteu mentioned the where your statement of principles can be found. viewers can check it out as we are having this conversation. carl is first out of massachusetts, a democrat. go ahead. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. i want to say i'm sure lots of people are going to a guy am crazy. i really don't care because i am really worried. i am more you about the country and the situation. to get a been trying false flag going for months with ships that were supposedly mind, with the interdiction of the british interdicted one of iran's ships.
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the drone situation. thank goodness they did not work, but what i am afraid of is they are going to raise a false flag closer to home, either on american soil or on an american base where american soldiers are going to get killed. host: we got your point. concerns?r take on those guest: i share the concern that the u.s. and iran seem locked into this almost war where things could become much worse. it is absurd that after all that has happened, after the overextension of the u.s. military in the middle east, we find ourselves in this situation. deal, thethe nuclear jcpoa that the obama
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administration struck with the iranian government was the most constructive piece of diplomacy in my own lifetime spearheaded by the u.s. , but we saw it did not survive the trump administration. it may not survive beyond the trump administration. i think that has to do with the general posture of the u.s. in the middle east. since the 1990's, the u.s. has sought military domination in the region. that has become a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy where the u.s. for the first time stationed large numbers of true permanently in the region. alliesde it depended on that post those troops. incoherenthanded and as i'm afraid the trump administration policies have been, we cannot does look radically at what is happening right now.
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we have to go back several decades and ask why has the u.s. gotten to the point where it is identifying so strongly with one set of illiberal forces in the region and seems to be implacably opposed to another set of illiberal forces in the region? we need real alternatives coming out of washington. host: the false like concerns come down to an issue of trust. do you think people trust think tanks in this day and age? it seems like they don't. we just had an election where on a bipartisan basis where we had respected members of the washington establishment declare that one candidate in particular was unfit for office, could not serve as president and commander in chief. what happened?
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we saw voters respond by either that isng or saying precisely why we like this guy. i think it shows a really troubling divide between the american public and the washington establishment. i think it is understandable given the record. i think it is understandable given the lack of accountability and serious alternatives that seem to be generated in washington, d.c. that is one reason why i and others wanted to create a different kind of institution to shake up the debate in washington and the entire country. host: how do you get the american public to trust you? guest: first of all, we are different people from the same old people. i think it is corrosive when no one pays a price for a disastrous policies like the iraq war.
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people notice. that comes out in our politics. we had to unlikely candidates for the presidency the last two presidents who capitalized on their real or legend opposition -- were allegedly opposition to the iraq war. i think this issue lingers here we will try to be very transparent about who we are. we expect that to be hard questions, but so far the reaction just of the news that we are forming -- we have not even fully launched yet. that suggests a tremendous hunger can people to hear something different and more peaceful on foreign policy they can sense that endless war policy is just not successful and not humane. they don't serve u.s. interests, and they don't serve the best of our values. host: nashville, tennessee.
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morgan, independent. caller: hello. can you hear me? host: yes, ma'am. caller: you are a part of the federalist society, is that correct? what is your opinion on foreign contractors like eric prince? there budgetlieve was 600,000 from the government. like 600 you bring up a couple of questions. let's let stephen wertheim tackle those. guest: i am not a member of the federalist society. with respect to private contractors, you raise an important concern. it is something i am concerned
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about. officent eisenhower left warning of a military-industrial complex. we have something that goes beyond that today. it is a sort of military-industrial, postindustrial complex involving private contractors as well. i think this is something that allows for a lack of accountability in our foreign policymaking. the pentagon is supposed to complete an audit every year, and they basically cannot do it. this is a tremendous problem. as we think seriously about getting more money into the hands of the american people and more to education and infrastructure, more to health care, these are really crucial areas of need for the american people. we need to tame the military budget. we need to be able to have transparency and understand where this money is going.
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that is alarmingly difficult right now. of newaul is next out york. independent. caller: good morning. -- my comment regards mainly serving corporate interests around the world. we get involved in venezuela and with iran, and the funny thing is where that is all the oil seems to be then we are all for democracy and putting our own people in these places. you never hear it on the mainstream media, never hear anything critical of going into these races and taking them over. i just thank god for youtube and alternative news. that is my comments. i like to hear your take. appreciate the comments.
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to be sure, oil is a major reason why the u.s. invested in the middle east as well as in venezuela. it is time we started talking about that. i don't think that explains directly some of the specific policy decisions like the iraq war. it is no question that policymakers themselves are very open in saying the protection of the flow of oil from the middle east is a major reason why the u.s. is in the region. faceng at 2019, we something of a different challenge because now the u.s. is a significant oil producer itself, and as president trump has pointed out, and he is correct, what the u.s. is doing in the middle east by ensuring the free flow of oil is mainly ensuring that all of oil to china and to other countries, not the u.s. it is time to say oil has historically been an important
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motive, but if we were going to move beyond u.s. interventionist policies, we are going to have to put forward a new strategic paradigm that recognizes we have inertia nowforce of that seems incredibly strong. you have talked about president trump's foreign-policy. is there a democratic candidate in the field right now that has the right message on these issues? guest: i think a number of democrats have distinguished themselves by emphasizing foreign policy were doing the most that they can to do so. -- or doing the most that they can to do so. i think you're seeing senator sanders, senator warren, senator gabbard. they have been outspoken on this issue. all the candidates when they address on policy, they seem to understand what the electorate wants.
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they talk about cutting defense spending. they talk about not engaging in regime change wars for governments that do not threaten the u.s.. hear more ofed to a specific level to understand better what they will actually deliver in office. we have seen again and again presidents barack obama, donald trump make promises about how they were going to retract u.s. intervention and focus on the real threats that we face, but in office they have a harder time doing that. the more specific and concentrated we can get on the foreign-policy questions, the better. i think there ought to be a presidential debate. we might as well have foreign-policy be the subject matter for an entire debate.
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policy wherea of the presidency has the most control. less than 10 minutes left with you. a lot of calls. we will try to get to as many as we can. ronald. -- am i on?on? host: you are. caller: all i hear is a whole lot of mocking of trunk. i have written up quite a list of things that have happened under other presidents. the u.s.s first year had its first combat casualty in the vietnam war. many children have been killed. many children have no parents. children are injured and messed up for life? why did jfk start this war? the missile mess, the bay of
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pigs. we had to take our missiles out of greece and turkey. dr. jacobson, nicknamed dr. feel good. jfk was a very good customer. the bureau of the carl dix and dangerous drugs seized -- my colleagues and dangerous drugs -- of narcotics and dangerous drugs. going to leave jfk's foreign-policy to the side. i agree with the caller that under jfk and other presidents since world war ii, the u.s. has undertaken a number of military interventions that have not succeeded on their own terms that have made us less safe and have not been in line with decent humane values toward the rest of the planet. begant think this problem
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with donald trump. i don't think we should overemphasize the issues that the trump administration faces, even though i think in some respects the trump administration has made things worse, not better in its time in office. i will say something in praise of president trump i appreciated about a year ago when he led the diplomatic opening to north korea. i thought that was very important. i was alarmed that a lot of democrats in capitol hill criticized him on such strident grounds as if to suggest that any piece of diplomacy with a regime with which we are at odds is a mistake. i don't think so. i think since then we have seen the administration has not had a coherent plan for executing diplomatic negotiations with the north koreans, and hopefully we
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will see that change, but i give him credit for that, and i was quite disappointed with the reaction of a lot of donald trump's critics, which seem to be opening the door for more hawkish foreign-policy to follow donald trump. i think it is important that we think long and hard about the conditions that are best for the .merican people and the world host: john, independent. good morning. caller: good morning. not a democrat, not a republican. i agree with you. we have to get out of these endless wars. we work in iraq and afghanistan. thousands of lives lost. i have a nephew on permanent disability. what you are saying makes a lot of sense.
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is question i have for you how are you going to get it achieved? really appreciate the question. i think it is not going to be easy to achieve good nobody should be under any illusion. tank will one think not get the job done. i think it is an essential elements. at the end of the day, the quincy institute will provide well reasoned strategies from real experts that can get this job done. at the end of the day, it will have to be the american people themselves standing up and telling their members of president that they want a serious change in foreign-policy based on peace and pluralism, not on creating more enemies and endless war.
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that is going to be crucial. we have seen episodes of the american people speak out. when president obama was weighing strikes on syria, people called into their congress members. we saw the nuclear agreement with iran that the obama administration put forward, it outset thatom the could actually succeed and overcome neoconservatives, the military-industrial complex, and it did last for a while. we have seen those forces seized the initiative. this job can be done. i think it is going to take an effort of americans, whether you are an independent, a democrat, or a republican, whatever, to leave their differences to one side on this issue and say we have to have an and to endless
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wars and the posture of the u.s. to the war that produces endless war. host: fargo, north dakota. the question i have, that is why we went to war against saddam is because of the oil. they said if we went after his oil, that's why we wanted to get rid of him. 1980's, my in the uncle was drilling oil in colorado. we were hitting oil. for the americans to sit there and have to pay all this money for gas is ridiculous. my uncle said they were drilling uranium,drilling for and whenever they hit oil, the captain. now look at the gas prices we have today.
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fields plenty of oil that are cap and just drilling for oil. we have had -- we have had -- guest: we have had several calls now about oil as a driver of u.s. foreign-policy, specifically naming iraq. what i take from this is that we of thed a failure foreign-policy establishment to put forward a compelling rationale for what it is doing, and long after the fact, after the u.s. toppled the saddam hussein regime and undertook a very long and costly occupation of that country. we still have 5000 troops there. it is not over. long afterward, there is still a simmering anger and mistrust.
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i think that speaks to a lack of accountability we have seen for the people who got us into that war. we could debate the motives for that war, but this is a significant issue for our civic life, not just foreign-policy. it is very important on those grounds. host: last call for you. bobby has been waiting in illinois on our line for democrats. caller: good morning. i was in the military during desert storm. when it comes to foreign policy, , it willns actually benefit them when it comes to war. militaryifferent arsenals to foreign countries. it is all about the money they can make. countries care about that are not rich.
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africa was one of the countries that had diamonds in their country. to gou cannot get them over there to do anything. now it is about oil. it is all about selling things, just like trump was getting ready to stop the border crossings. the republican party, they were all up in arms about getting .eady to go into their pockets all the sudden donald trump act down from closing the borders. he knows the republicans were not happy. that is the only time that the republicans spoke up because it was going to affect their bottom line and their pockets. host: stephen wertheim, i will
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give you the final minute. say that it is tremendously important that the of. have a different kind foreign-policy of foreign-policy calculus and foreign-policy discussion in this country. i think it is easy to be cynical and to think that politicians just are not going to do the right thing. there is ample evidence of that all around us on many issues the aunt foreign-policy. that we have a system that at the end of the day is a democratic system. it is under strain. i think the american people collectively have a very strong interest in taming the pentagon ,udget, stopping endless wars and not putting ourselves in the same positions to generate more
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antagonisms. we face a potentially even deadlier competition with assertive powers like china and russia. i think this is a really important moment for us to say that as americans, it has not happened much in the last few decades, but we can come onether and create pressures members of congress, on presidents. they do respond to those pressures. at the end of the day, their job depends on being reelected. host: stephen wertheim is the director of the quincy institute for responsible statecraft. guest: thank you so much. host: about 25 minutes left on "washington journal" today. we will be having a conversation on the issue of trust.
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>> "washington journal" continues. host: our show and's at 10:00 eastern. -- ends at 10:00 eastern. asking you what institutions and leaders you trust. .emocrats (202) 748-8000 republicans (202) 748-8001. .ndependents (202) 748-8002 you might have seen some of the headlines on this. one of them from fox news, most americans say low trust in the federal government makes it difficult to solve problems. several news organizations reporting on this poll that was released last week. here are some of the topline findings from that poll. two thirds of adults think other americans have little or no confidence in the federal government. in majority believe the public confidence in the u.s. government and each other is shrinking, and most believe a
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shortage of trust in government and other citizens make it harder to solve problems. that survey also taking a look at several institutions and individuals and asking over 10,000 respondents whether they had a great deal of trust in those institutions. let's run through a few of them. the respondents who said they had a great deal more fair amount of trust and confidence in the military, that was 83%. another 83% said they had a great deal more fair amount of trust and scientists. 80% said they had a great deal of trust in public school principals. 78% police officers. 68% college professors. the numbers go down from there. journalists, just 55%.
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business leaders 43%. elected officials, 37%. we want to hear from you. how would you respond to that survey? independent out of new york city first. good morning. caller: good morning. your network once every two or three months. i want to put a question to you. would you trust someone if they were lying to you all the time? host: who do you trust? caller: would you trust someone if they lie 60% of the time or even 50% of the time? would you trust them? host: how would you answer that question? caller: i would answer that question by saying the negative. i don't trust this
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administration because the head of that administration is a liar. the president is a liar. he lies all the time. i cannot trust him. who do you trust? caller: i trust democratic institutions. institutions that fight for democracy and institutions that go around the world trying to uplift people who are downtrodden. this is what i want to do when i go back to africa. i am going to organize all african countries to stop giving uranium to the u.s. without uranium, the u.s. cannot supply its nuclear material and its nuclear arsenal. i am going to lobby african countries to stop giving uranium to the u.s.
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host: this is jennifer out of florida. good morning. caller: good morning. i appreciate the opportunity to say that i am really happy with bar and the job he is doing at the department of justice. i think we needed to have a new vision of going back and protecting the constitution and its traditions. going on with them revisiting the epstein case. there is a fantastic series in the miami herald called perversion of justice. barr's direction, they are going back and looking at that sweetheart deal that was done in west palm beach to protect jeffrey epstein and all the other people who were involved in exploiting these young women. it was sickening.
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i think we are seeing good things. under this administration, i appreciate what they're doing to protect the border because that last guest, his organization is funded by koch and soros. both of them lived in walled estates. on palm beach island, which is extremely protective of their residence. i find it so hypocritical that they are interested in globalism. tanksdo you trust think in this country? we feature plenty of them here on c-span and on "washington journal." do you trust any of them? caller: that is such a great question. nine times out of 10 when i research, they are being funded often by billionaires. they have a very myopic that
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view of society. i thought it was interesting that as part of their mission they were going to battle online extremism, which i see as putting big money into keeping down the little guy. i would say generally i don't. thank you for that question. host: jennifer in north palm beach florida. john, democratic, who do you trust? caller: that is a very difficult question. my deceased mother years ago voted for one of the local people, and i said to her, why did you vote for him, and she said because he is good looking. as comical and as naive as that sounds, in order for people to trust, you have to have the facts. in order to get the facts, you have to dedicate a tremendous amount of energy to learn the information.
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it would take a dedication of your entire life a lot of these things are just emotional. you see a lot of these people talking, and it is sad because they are so emotional about what they're talking about. girl that was just on, she knew what she was talking about. she was great. it was enjoyable. host: we are going to see the next round of democratic primary debates. are there one or two candidates in that field as a democrat that you trust? caller: it goes back to what my mother said. i voted for him because he was good-looking. a lot of people vote for people for many different reasons without really knowing or having the opportunity to really study the facts.
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most people don't have the time in order to make a reasonable intellectual analysis of this information. that is the critical part. everyone talks about 40 addressed. informationave the -- talks about who do you trust? how do you have the information? host: thank you for the call. having this conversation about what institutions and leaders you trust in the wake of this poll that was released from the pew research center. if you want to look it up yourself, trust and distrust in america. many americans think declining trust in the government and each other makes it harder to solve problems and what is going wrong. online to find that survey and report.
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over 10,000 americans responding to that survey. susan is next out of ohio. who do you trust? caller: i trust my state officials. i tend not to be that trusting. i am kind of cynical. .e have a wonderful governor i have watched him for years and years. i know people who have gone to him for help. he is very trustworthy. my state representative. i trust them. -- he federal level host: do you have more contact with state officials, or is it the state issues you trust them on? what is the difference between them and federal officials? caller: i think you are right on. i think it is because of the contact.
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i have seen them. i have talked to them. they are more readily available. then say president trump. i am not going to be talking to president trump. do you follow him on twitter? caller: no. i'm not doing twitter. host: do you think his tweets and his interaction with the ets has helped or hurt his level trust with the american people? up in ai think it ends toss. the deskarrying for caring i don't care for the tweets. it is successful because they can reach so many people. i just don't care for that type of communication.
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host: tim, wisconsin, who do you trust? caller: i don't trust the federal government. they have increased punishment for crimes. the supreme court upheld a law that states a person who was in prison for a crime when upholding the law. indenture humans to the maintenance of databases. host: who do you trust? caller: not too many people. that's for sure. why should we? why should we trust the people when they follow leadership that is not trustworthy? host: that is tim in wisconsin. this is brock in new jersey. who do you trust? caller: i'm brock. host: we already talked to you
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earlier today. didn't wait? caller: yes. host: we will try to keep the role. once every 30 days. that is toy to do limit fun calls to once every 30 days. if we can stick by that rule, we would appreciate it. willy, arkansas, democrat. point is that we have the closest thing to george wallace in office in my lifetime. trump, vice president and mitch mcconnell. host: the question is who do you trust? some of the options that were given, institutions like the military, police officers, religious figures. do you find yourself trusting any of those?
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trust thedon't even religious folks in the republican party. i don't trust nobody. lifetime is john kelly. host: that is willy in arkansas. we want to come back to this chart. the overall respondents who found trust. respondentsdown the for each of those institutions by political party. this is that same report from the pew research center. when it comes to the military, they haveublicans say a great deal or fair amount in the military. among those for democrats, 76%. police officers, 89% for republicans. 69% for democrats.
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some of the institutions that democrats trust, scientists. 89% of democrats say they have a great deal of confidence in scientists. just 75% of republicans. 85% of democrats say they have confidence in public school principals. the grouping is very tight when it comes to elected officials. it is 37% of republicans who say they have confidence in elected officials. 36% of democrats say they have confidence in elected officials. bill is next, new york city. caller: good morning. thank you for letting me speak on "washington journal." i would like to say that how can you trust any of these institutions? that should have been in that question.
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everything it seems we have been brought up to believe in as good people it seems has been thrown out the window. scientists?bout scientists trusted by a lot of democrats. do you trust scientists? caller: yes, trust them how far? how far can you trust the information that is being given to you today? it is so much cruelty and injustice. host: do you trust public school principals? some you can, some you can't. host: do you trust religious leaders? caller: teachers are abusing children. parents are doing this. politicians are doing that. police are corrupt.
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their infiltrated with racism. that is what we should be dealing with. that is the number one problem. racism and white supremacy. host: this is david out of massachusetts. who do you trust? caller: thank you for taking my call. i trust investigative journalists. i trust scientists. trust but verify. you have got to find out where the funding is coming from in order to understand if their results are tainted. i trust politicians that fund themselves with small donor activities. the fact that shell companies are invading our electoral process is disgraceful. college professors.
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it is trust but verify. i don't know if i said that before. police, that is a mixed bag. racisms so much systemic that it has tainted the policing in america. the militarization of it. is there any specific political leader right now that has your trust? has my bernie sanders trustee because he is funded with small donations. that is david in massachusetts. jim in florida is next, also independent. who do you trust? caller: i trust the republicans on the federal level and the state level. you have to look at the results. hello? the results.
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go ahead. caller: look at the democrats. when they have been in charge for 25 or 30 years. you go to another city where republicans have been in charge, and you see the difference of how things are run. word.t going to use the r i am sick and tired every day of every institution using the r word. everybody knows what i am talking about. i'm not going to use it. host: are you talking about racism? caller: yes. it's just ridiculous. so -- you heard the old expression, you keep using that word over and over again, it just loses its real meaning. just look at the results.
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know what you're politicians have done. you: one more chart to show that pew research chart. this breaks down the level of trust by age groups. those over 50, 90 1% have a great deal of trust in the military. -- 91% have a great deal of trust in the military. for the israel police officers, those over 50 -- for the issue of police officers, those over 50 84%. 50% of those 50 or over, those have a great deal
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of trust in business leaders. thomas in pennsylvania. who do you trust? caller: i would like to keep this as brief as possible. icon, representative elijah cummings of maryland. representative confronted the president on a matter of policy and he received in return a personal attack. i called on the democrat line. consider ther i best candidate. thank you. host: the president continuing to tweet about elijah cummings
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this morning. several tweets this morning about it. brandon in maryland, republican. who do you trust? caller: i don't trust -- i do trust the government to an extent. i don't trust police or religious leaders. really should not trust religious leaders. they are just conmen trying to get your money. host: is there any political leader you do trust? well, it is hard to say. you really should not trust when itide of the aisle comes to congress leaders. pelosi and mcconnell have been there too long. they need to institute term limits.
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i heard the guy say he trusts bernie sanders. that is a terrible idea. realistically, i thought we could trust joe biden, but he is stepping little girls hairs. apparently he is a secret racist, which i find it hard to believe since he was obama's vp. i don't think any of them are to be trusted. everybody should look out for their own best interests. host: was them that was brandon in maryland this morning. 13 were writing income of science doesn't ask to be trusted, it challenges to be disproven. one more to eat from mark -- i don't trust any of our politicians. politicians have become cheerleaders. you have to do your research, decide from your own. julius, last call from chicago heights, illinois on the democrat line. who do you trust?
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is vulgar, he says don't believe in god. that is crazy. he makes more sense that anybody. maher. call that was julius last today on "washington journal." again, if you want to watch the poll, the headline is trust and distrust in america. we hope that you join us tomorrow. we will be back for another at 7:00 a.m.urnal eastern, 4:00 a.m. pacific. in the meantime, have a great monday. ♪
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easing that they the pain infected on 9/11 victims, but for some the pain will never end because of the have been lobbying congress for 15 years to secure the aid. we will have live coverage from the white house when he does sign the bill, right here on c-span. but first, more from today's washington journal. host: professor and author joins us now on a conversation about iran. he is professor of iranian studies at stanford university. i want to start with a recent column he wrote in "the hill" newspaper here is what you write. the majority of iranian people have joined the desire to have a government that abides by democratic loss at home and international norms around the world. how do we know that to be true


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