tv Gov. Kasich at Loeb Schools First Amendment Gala CSPAN November 16, 2018 12:03pm-12:44pm EST
>> and it was my god, i'm 28 years old. this is it. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern q and a.'s john kasich delivered remarks in new hampshire. he is term limited and ran to gainst donald trump. >> john kasich was a congressman for nine terms. and he senched among other committees, he served on defense and budget and among his notable
achievements were the budget act of 1997, the balanced budget act of 1997. who would have thunching it. after that, he was in the private sector for a time. he worked for fox news and he was an investment banker, although now i think they are both the same company. [laughter] >> and he was governor of ohio for two terms and i think he would probably say he is most proud of his achievements as governor of ohio and i hope he talks a little bit about that. he ran for president in 2000 and he doesn't me telling him this but i remember telling him he shouldn't do it. in 2016 he ran for president. and what i would have done is endorse him, but i didn't.
[applause] . he is here tonight first kasich: and amendment and communications and broadcasting, thanks to our friends at m.u.r. and the governor has agreed to say a few words and then do a town hall q and a as he told up some people in the back. but i'm sure there are things ask ou would like to governor kasich, john, it's up to you. [applause] governor kasich: i'm moving down here because for those who saw
me speak and move around, i don't want to die in this pit. [laughter] governor kasich: i'm coming right down here. the great photographer who has taken photos all over the world, it's a dangerous job and he has places. ifferent congratulations. god bless you for your work. [applause] governor kasich: let me hit the nail on the head. if i run for president again, i have no clue that the "union leader" would endorse me. i don't have any idea what what would happen. really doesn't matter, because i think it's a national treasure, a national treasure when you go through the history of presidential campaigns and you think about all the things that
happened in those offices, all the things that happened on the steps of the "union leader" and nothing -- i don't care how many times joe tells me the story but when john kennedy said, i don't know if there is a worst newspaper or worst, if there is, i don't know who they are and then he laughed and it was a remarkable scene at the "union leader." and i don't know why it is etched in my memory but the vivid recollection edmund muskey on the steps of the "union leader." i like joe a lot. his daughter was for me for president and he should have listened to her. [laughter] governor kasich: she is just terrific. thing and a great
i'm thrilled to have been at the first reception, second reception, third reception. i think we are getting this down now. and for you to give and help support this school -- you got to understand how important this is. i got a list -- i learned a and how out bill modernized that paper and that school where young people can go and learn. but marie coleman that sell brates her. american jourmist working for the "subpoenaed times" was killed while working the civil war in syria. she covered numerous armed conflicts since 1986, reporting on war and misery in middle
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i never endorsed donald trump. because i learned -- [applause] i learned a whole lot in new hampshire. i started out, joe said talk about your career as governor, and i will say will little bit about it. i start out talking about my incredibly great record in ashington. nobody gave a flip. he balanced the budget, what is that about? so as i learned as time went on here in this great place in this great state, is it was never about the issues. it really is about the
people. and it is really about the day, as i even met with your governor today, who i think has done a terrific job and i'll tell you why. i believe that politics today is about something bigger than just these issues. not that issues don't matter. but it's about the soul. it's about the fact that if you want to be a successful leader, whether you are a manager like your great manager cora or whether it is in -- whether it is in business with people who are inspiring, what we learn is that when leaders can communicate to people that they can live a life a little bigger than themselves. it makes an unbelievable difference in the way the world spins. and what i found here is the more i could talk about the personal issues that people have, and we all have them, you know, with some people, many of
us in this auditorium are fortunate. we can't escape some of the difficulties and evils that we find on this planet. but there are many people who don't sit in this auditorium today because they wouldn't even know how to get here. you know, people who are nervous about their health care. people who are struggling with their income. people who have family members, i was just talking to a lady who is a volunteer here tonight and she came to me and she said, my son now is 4 years sober from his heroin addiction. all people want is for you to isten to them, to be able to understand what's going on, to have compassion. and that's what i've learned. what i've resented and disliked about the president is instead of being a unifier and somebody who can dig deep into people's problems and say question, those are problems, but together we
can fix them, he's played a blame game. he has allowed people to consider themselves victims. he's allowed people to be told that if this didn't good happen to you because somebody else did it to you. it's not personal. i just completely disagree with it. and so i was willing throughout this, no go to the convention, don't endorse the guy, for this reason. i thought he was not a unifier. i held out hope for a couple of years he would find his way. i'm not convinced he can't. i don't know what that means. i don't know ultimately what the political situation is. but i know what the antidote is. and remember, it's not just the president who is letting us down. it's politicians across the board who have not shown the leadership qualities of putting somebody else before them and their political career. it's hard to do. it's hard to do because no one wants to do something that's going to cost them their job.
you don't either. but sometimes the principle matters more than the short-term object that you're clinging to. in my state in the eight year, people want to know what's your legacy? nobody cares about legacy because it only happens when they're dead and at that point you're not caring a whole lot about what they're saying about you. but what i've been plowed of is that we are balanced, we do have tructural balance. we do have surplus money. all that is good. we're up over half a million jobs and the reason that's so important is that's the politician's greatest moral four provide an environment for job growth. but there's something else that's happened. that i'm particularly proud of. and i thank the lord and i thank my mother and father for putting in me a sense of compassion for others, which the lord has kindles in my -- kindled in my
heart. not that there aren't days where that fire is doused because it exists. but most days i think i can slow down and listen to somebody else. and what i'm so pleased about is that we did not leave anyone ehind. early on, we talked about getting health insurance for mothers and fathers who couldn't get any coverage for their autistic son and daughters. can you imagine that? so we took care of it. and somebody in the small business community said that's just going to drive up the costs. i guess that's just tough because we're all in this together. negligible as you would xpect. i was concerned about the minority community when we saw a young boy shot and killed in a park in cleveland and a couple driving the car who were -- who died through multiple bullets through the car who were
unarmed. the grand juries met. they thought there was no liability or -- on anybody. but i knew that results of that we were going to fragment our society, our culture, our state. and so we put together black and white and law enforcement and academics and community activists and we reached a whole series of things that will protect the police but also protect the community. went through the problem of medicaid expansion. probably something that wouldn't fit into the ideology of the union leader. but let me tell you what i thought. f i can take the money and i can treat the drug addicted, if i can treat the mentally ill and keep them from sleeping under a bridge, if i can help single moms with children be able to get health care so they can go to work, what a great thing that is. and i'm not going to d it because it's financially easy. if we can't afford it, we're not
doing it because disrupting the economy of the state would cost jobs and disrupting the economy and costing jobs would be worse. but we figured out how to do it. we figured out how to help the small businesses to be more profitable where they don't pay any state income tax. we killed the death tax because we didn't want to punish people who worked a lifetime to build something and then we are currently working on killing debt. haven't made a lot of progress. we are working on legitimate gun control. it's called the red flag law. if you know somebody in the workplace who is unstable, or somebody in your family who oses a threat to themselves or to others, you can approach the court and you can have that gun removed if the court finds that person unstable. that is not a violation of the second amendment or even erosion of it. but it makes good common sense. and we haven't been able to achieve that. i'm concerned about the
environment. we're here to be good stewards of the creation we have been granted. all of these things have meant that from top to bottom, no one has been left behind. that's what i'm proud of. because we didn't play the political game or put our finger in the air to try to decide how to do this. the credit of all that of course goes to my staff, my team, and most more lay -- particularly to my mother who was nothing but a troublemaker, an intelligent woman who always spoke out and i learned that from her. so the future for all of us is this. i want to give you an early christmas present, something i talked about on the trail but got away from for a while but 'm back to it again. understand that nebraska has ever been like you before. no one has ever been like you who lived before and no one will be like you who comes next. you see, you're special.
special talents, special gifts. and an ability, an ability to have a destiny that can help us change our world. and the antidote to all the anger and all the division and all the partisanship, yeah, we should be angry about it. but we need to realize that when we use those gifts in whatever way, that woman whose son was a heroin addict who is now being helped by people, they're changing that guy's world and we never know when small acts of doing well can have an exponential effect on the way the world spins. i believe this. we've got to believe in ourselves because the greatest strength in our country is the ability of all of us to work where we live, to band together and send a message to those who were in charge to get their act together and to make this a stronger, state, community, and nation. if we do it, we're going to be
fine. and it will unite all of us in a way that we're all hungering for today. so with those brilliant opening remarks, i'm going to take some questions. cheers and applause] who wants to go first. never take the first hand up so i'm going to go to this woman right back here this lovely young woman. >> i live in a house where cnn is watched on one tv and in the next room fox news is watched and i'm abc, i'm in the middle. fake news is the order of the day so i would like to know how to you deal with making an open and free press something that is table? john: first of all, the people say the press is liberal. it's always been liberal. what -- are you kidding? you go to college and people say
university is liberal. of course it is. that's the way it works. my doctor is conservative and the engineer who designed the bridge is conservative and i'm glad about that. so what my job is as a consumer of news, what do -- let me tell you some of the websites. i look at the bbc website. i look at cnn's website. i look at some of the networks' websites. i read the newspapers. and i put all that together and i kind of figure out what i think i should believe. and part of the responsibility of the media is to make sure they're not giving in to hits and clicks and you know to -- but remember, if it bleeds it leads has always been, tom griffiths is here with us, that's how it's always been. but there's a responsibility that a guy like griffiths has to say, i'm not doing that story tonight. it goes too far. it's too salacious. i'm not doing that story.
they have to restrain themselves. but i don't want the government, i don't want us running it down. i want us to search for like a cafeteria, i'll have a little bit of fox, i'll have a little bit of cnn, i'll go over here to msnbc, i'll pick up the union leader and then i'll make my own opinion. but the young people today at -- they asked me what about people who just absorb what they want? and i said, well that makes you boring because it's -- one of the goals in life is to be an interesting person. an involved and engaged person. if all you ever get is the stuff you agree with, your horizon is limited. and if all you ever get is what you agree with, your who arize season limited. it's in all our best interest that we go out and explore words -- worlds we don't know about and test our arguments about things we think. it makes us more interesting, more compelling. i think that's really good advice to those kid.
don't just go one way and to all of us, just explore. keep an open mind. listen. you're smart. that's the thing about the american people. i think. i mean -- i hate when politicians say, and the american people want -- what do they know what the american people want? but i know that the more i provide the -- i provide diversity in my mind to the things that are out there, the better i am and the younger i am and the hipper i am and the more excited i am and the more energetic i am. so, knock the walls down and, you know, share a little bit. how's that, ma'am? could you do that? who's got the fox news on? >> [inaudible] mr. kasich: ovepblgt expose them to other things as well -- ok. expose them to other things as well. ok. i used to work there. but i don't work there now. [laughter] by the way, you may somewhere in the not too distant future have an opportunity to see me back in the media again. it might be fun. we'll see.
other questions here. yes. right over here. yell it out. questioner: something you said earlier, governor, really struck me of you said, it's not so much about the issue, it's about the person. and while i tend to agree with you, in the landscape that we live in, we knew that donald trump wasn't a good person. before we elected him. and we knew you are a good person. i think most of us, certainly any of us who have met you personally know that you're a damn fine person. mr. kasich: you really don't know me well enough. [laughter] i don't want to forget. this i'm not here to say that donald trump is not a good person. who the hell would i to be say that? i don't like his tactics and his approach. but i don't question his worth as an individual. questioner: i'm not putting those words in your mouth. i'll get to my question. my question is, could someone
like you or someone else like you win the next presidential election on personality versus ssues? mr. kasich: let me be clear. it's not personality. it's not like who can tell the best jokes. it's not that. think the giving people a sense that you get them, you understand them, and you want to work to help them. and that doesn't mean you go along west virginia. you know, a young woman here tonight works for the aclu. she said, we have a lot of issues we want to talk to you about in your state. so it's probably one good reason why i'm leaving in two months. no, in all seriousness, i don't know what she wants. but that doesn't mean i'm going to go for it. but i want to give her a hearing. i want to think about it. that's the way we kind of do things in the office that we have. >> thank you. mr. kasich: is that you? yeah. we want to think about
things. there's controversial issues at the aclu weighs in on. i'll give you one. the death penalty. i've let people go and gave them a chance to go from -- not the electric chair, but from execution to life in prison. some people want me to abolish it. i'm not going to abolish it. but i do understand the seriousness and the gravity. i've never even spoken about this before. the gravity of when you have a decision like that to face. so i'm not trying to tell you that you have to be soft. soft is not what i'm talking about. what i'm talking about is an ability to listen and let people know that you're going to consider them and particularly if they are in trouble. if they are in trouble, then you have an obligation, in my opinion, to say, where are you, i don't want you to be stuck. you know, it's funny. i went to visit one of my daughters in college.
and she has questions about -- does she want to stay at that college or whatever. you know what i told her. i said, sweetheart, you're not stuck. the worst thing you can do to somebody is get them stuck, where they feel that there's no way out. so you want to be able to communicate to people you're not stuck. but don't make false promises to them. and don't be mr. softy. i think people want leadership. i think they want firmness. i think they want toughness. but they also want a good heart, a kind heart. isn't that what he loved about reagan? reagan was a guy, he was tough, he was testify lon. because people thought he really cared and we always go to reagan because reagan was an extraordinary guy. he really was. he had that strong spine, but he had a good demeanor and people had the sense that, you know what, he kind of gets me. that's what made him so good. you know, one of the things that helped george bush win was --
the young bush, people said, i'd like -- i could have a beer with him. and so it's a sense you get about the kind of lead that are we want. and i don't mean to just pick on republicans, because, you know, when you think -- whatevery -- harry trumer, right? or even franklin roosevelt who had an unbelievable strength about him. we admire those kind of people but we don't want to think that they're living in another world and they don't get us. does that answer it? yes. ok. who's next? how about you, young lady right ere. questioner: one of the things that we touched on tonight is hyperpartisanship. and how we can find that middle ground or focus on the people. i think one thing that's interesting is the role of maybe a third party option or an independent candidate. and i know that in new hampshire there's been a lot of debate about that. the libertarian party got ballot status, then they lost it. jarvis was a candidate for governor but they didn't make the threshold for a lot of
debates. i guess my question to you is, do you think that a third party or an independent candidate could ever be viable on the national level? and do you think the media has a role in that? mr. kasich: yeah. that's a really good question. first of all, third parties istorically, and i'm not a historian like my colleague, the chairman, doug price, here. but third parties, as i've always paid attention to them or read about them, they brought up an issue that the two major parties were not addressing. do you think that's a good analysis? you have perot that talked about the debt. you had other -- john anderson, i cabinet remember, his -- can't remember, his was about financial reform and elections. you had third parties running during the vietnam war. and the fact is -- you saw teddy roosevelt ran maybe because he was angry that he wasn't president anymore.
but he was a big factor with the bull moose party. but i wonder if today, you know, pretty soon people aren't going to be driving their cars. they're going to be driven by computers. pretty soon we're going to be using data analytics to determine the kind of health care we're going to have. pretty soon we're going to see all kinds of magical inventions that are going to change the very way we live. which we need to prepare for. so an era of all this change, why wouldn't we think there couldn't be fundamental political change? i think it's very possible. but i think you're right about the media having some responsibility. i'll just tell you my own story. when i came to new hampshire, i had i think one or -- 1% or 2% name i.d. and i beat everybody but trump. so i get on the plane, i'm getting ready to go to south carolina, and, boy, i exceeded all expectations. anybody who exceeds expectations gets on a rocketship into the consciousness of america.
i didn't get into anybody's consciousness. i was in their subconsciousness and i got no attention and it was all about trump. and so, i mean, yeah, i'm whining, i'm complaining, yeah. you guys did that to me. but the fact is that if the media doesn't shine a light on it -- now, in this day and age, it may be possible that people are so fed up with the extremes of the polls, because there is this big ocean in the middle and is it possible? maybe. i don't -- i really don't know. but the day will come, i think, when it will happen. don't know if it's today. final thing, there are really almost no truement ins. right? there are soft republicans and soft democrats. so, when people grow up, they get their religion and they get their party affiliation. and sometimes i think they'd
rather give up their religion than their party affiliation. and that's the challenge to an independent candidacy. way in the back. yes. questioner: if we could switch gears for a minute and talk a little bit about foreign policy. because i have two years into the trump administration, i'm really starting to get nervous, truly, about what our allies are thinking. are we sort of biding our time until they're thinking about the next election and what if trump is re-elected? the in the meantime, are we -- in the meantime, are we at such a point where we could have such dramatic effect that it's no looking back? mr. kasich: well, first of all, i believe that the europeans, i meet with a lot of their am bass doers, a lot of -- mbassadors, a lot of people, which is really interesting.
they're wondering if this is america or if this is an aberration of america. in other words, ok, we can deal with this for four years. but if it's eight years, it's a whole different deal. and they're very concerned about it. now, my concern about the foreign policy is, kids always ask about trade. trade's really fundamentally good. why? i can buy better products at cheaper prices because of competition. some countries, we all are evolving all the time. what america used to do before, it doesn't do now. but we do other things that the rest of the world doesn't o. so, when we have a global environment and global competition, it results for us as lower prices and better quality items. that doesn't mean that every trade deal is great, but it means that the idea of free and open trade is very, very good. the second part of it is, it allows you to have a
relationship with other people. so when you trade with them, you make deals with them, you get to know them. and you get to understand hem. so, when we withdrew from the pacific trade agreement, it was a really bad decision. because one of the great shadows overhanging the world today is china. china cheats all the time. and we should stand up against china. but wouldn't it be more effective if we stood up with china, with all our friends in europe, who are being ripped off as well? there's strength in numbers. furthermore, if you're bad mouthing nato or you don't go to -- i don't want to go through the litany. but here's what i'm concerned about. ince world war ii, since world war ii, america has been like the mom or the dad. however you want to to do this on a gender basis. when we see conflict in the world or potential conflict in the world, the united states has been able to use its prestige,
economic, military, overall strength of our country, to keep the parties from engaging in conflict. war. we're just celebrating the 100th anniversary of the end of world war i i which some people say never really ended, it went from world war i and world war ii and emerging from world war ii, the idea was never again. that we could have america in a position to be able to help mediate the dramatic and stark differences that sometimes arise between nations. if we don't do that, it if we don't do that, who is going to do that? and if in fact we have war, think about that. i read about the losses of world war i and world war ii or, you know, those are the great global wars or the terrible great
global wars. the people whose lives are lost. and what they say is there are many people now that just don't remember that. they don't remember any of it. if you don't remember your history, they say you're doomed to repeat it. so sometimes it feels like maybe we're doing a lot more than we need to for the rest of the world. but god bless us, we kept the peace and i'll tell you one final thing, i am so glad that i was born in america. and my children were born in america. nd not guatemala and not syria or not in russia or in china. as a result of that, i'm going to stand strong for my country. i think joe's getting nervous. should we wrap it up there, joe? one more? >> we can take one more question. then your staff wants to get you out. mr. kasich: yeah. are we going anywhere tonight? >> remains to be seen.
mr. kasich: ok. questioner: my question also relates to foreign policy. i'm from syria. i cam here about five years ago. my wife and i feel incredibly grateful for all the support that we received from the great community that we have here in manchester and new hampshire in general. [applause] thank you. at the same time we always feel heartbroken for all the misery and the challenges that our own family, our friends and our people, you know, face every day back home. you, wod -- worked with media, and you understand how the media has done a poor job talking about syrians gaining their rights and freedom. the same applies to politicians. where assad in the last five years has killed hundreds of housands of syrians, while the only focus has been on those triegesist groups, that syrians are the first victims of. so now from your position in power or in the future, how do you stand or what is your -- do you stand when it comes to syria
and how would you try to bring back attention or support to syrians and, you know, leading with these no-good values? mr. kasich: there are so many mistakes that were made early in terms of what we could have done. because i think assad is a butcher who someday will probably be tried in a criminal court. but going forward, we will have some leverage because of reconstruction. the need to rebuild that. and as a result of that, i think we don't want to give up the leverage that we can have in terms of trying to settle that down. as you know, extremely complicated, extremely difficult. but our ability to use the funding, the reconstruction money, is really important as to where we can play a larger and larger role. and i'm so pleased to see that in -- give me the name of the town, the region? questioner: that i am from?
mr. kasich: where the people were expecting the syrian army to go back in? questioner: [inaudible] mr. kasich: may have averted a terrible catastrophe. that's what i would think. one last thing i want to tell you all. we're all concerned about the issue of immigration in america -- and america needs to have a secure border. but i believe that part of the problem we have, all these problems can't be solved at the border. so why don't we go to where the problem is and begin to solve the problems where they exist, like we tried to do in colombia, and be able to try to have both an economic and a security program that can help them to destroy these cartels, these gangs, so people can live in peace where they live. they don't want to come if they can stay in their own home and love their culture and all that. that means we need to reach out. and, yeah, it costs some money.
but i'd rather be spending that money than have a human flood coming across the border and in regard to the caravannishing, i'm sorry, caravan, we really do need more asylum judges. we really need some more additional points of entry. and -- but i would ask you to think about this. when you have a mom who lives in guatemala or one of those countries, where the daughter is being threatened with rape and the son is going to be executed because he won't be a drug mule, where would you go? where would you go to try to rescue your family? i would tell where you i would go. so sometimes before we kneejerk about any of these things, we need to think about the impact on other people. so, great to be here tonight. i want to thank you. i think i'm headed to washington, as i said earlier, you heard about the change of that obnoxious name for the washington redskins. they finally got around to it. and henceforth they will be known as the redskins.
[laughter] [applause] mr. kasich: hey, thank you all. i'll see you again, i'll be back. [applause] >> midterm of election in 2018 with democrats taking control of the house and republicans holding the majority in the senate. members now prepare for the new congress in january. new congress, new leaders, watch he process unfold on c-span. >> coming up at the top of the hour, president trump holds a