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author of "inside camp david, the private world of the presidential retreat." >> hello and welcome to another episode of white house history live. my name is dr. colleen shogan. and i'm the director of the david rubenstein center for white house history. it's a non-profit, nonpartisan organization with a mission to educate americans about the rich and diverse history of the white house and the people who lived and work there. our guest this evening is michael giorgione. he's a retired rear admiral. he served in a variety of assignments around the world in his 29-year military career including as commander of camp david. after military retirement in 2010, mike has worked in private industry and now is the chief executive officer of a building
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information systems technology company headquartered in his hometown of pittsburgh, pennsylvania. in october 2017 he published his first book "inside camp david, the private world of the presidential retreat." mike travels often speaking about the book and has been covered by "the wall street journal," the "today" show, smithsonian, npr, c-span and many other print, radio and television outlets. after our conversation mike will be taking questions from our live audience. please put your questions for mike in the chat and we'll get to as many as possible at the end of our program. welcome to white house history live, mike. >> thank you, colleen. wonderful to be here. as most veterans would say it was a great honor and privilege to serve our nation. >> why don't we start from the beginning your story with camp
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david. tell us how you were selected as commander of camp david and what that process was like? >> we know camp david it's actually a naval command. and it's operated and maintained since it was started in 1942 by president roosevelt. went through visits of the camp, interviews by the staff, about a week later i got them all. >> amazing. tell us a bit about your personal history with camp david. >> i knew what it was.
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i visited once as an assignment officer. and interestingly i left the visit that day talking about the next assignments thinking, man, that's a difficult place to work and put it away and went on for a next few tours and lo and behold i was short listed for the interview, selected and reported in june 1999 near the end of president clinton's second term. >> and how long were you there? >> just over two years. so the last year and a half of president clinton, first eight months of george w. bush. so very fortunate on timing to work with two presidents, just gain those insights of two different ways of leading our nation. >> so let's talk a bit about the history of camp david. the history begins really with franklin roosevelt.
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he loved going out on the potomac to get away from the white house and just secure his hobbies, his interests and talk to world leaders and staff. but 41, 42 concerned about the uboat sightings and he said find me a place i can go to get away from the white house. of course this is before a helicopter squadron existed. you've got to find a place to drive nearby. interestingly because of the new deal bringing us out of the depression and part of the
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civilian conservation corp which put money back into the country and rebuilt a lot of the roads and parks there was this place called the recreational demonstration area also known as camp number three. roosevelt was given three sites nearby for visits. he went to all three. when he came to camp number three he looked at it and said this is it, and this is my shangri-la. so roosevelt named it that implying a utopian, mysterious place in the mountains. and so that was its name until as we know president eisenhower renamed it after his grandson, camp david. and that's how we know it today. >> can you describe camp david for a lot of our viewers and listeners who i'm sure have never visited camp david in person and probably will not
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visit camp david. can you paint a picture of them of what the camp is like? >> i will try. >> so imagine a hilltop maintained by the national park service. about 1,800 feet elevation. in the spring and summer months, very leafy, lush canopy, perfectly manicured yards, narrow asfalt roads. and all the cabins have this but at night i find it particularly surreal at night because its deathly quiet. no light except pathway lights. no noise except for squirrels in
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the trees. no lights, no noises from below, just eerily quiet and peaceful. that adds to the mystique. this is the cabin my family and i lived in and all the commanding officers do. this is called cedar just from the president's lodge. >> and how many cabins are in camp david? how big is the site? >> there were about 12 for guest cabins. eisenhower when he renamed it camp david named all the cabins after trees. all named after trees, about 12 for entertainment and about 20 total that include the ash, the clinic, eucalyptus, all the support facilities, the barracks
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for our single sailors and marines, et cetera. >> let's talk a bit about the staff at camp david. what is the size of the military staff at camp david and what types of jobs do they perform? >> about over 200 sailors and marines. we have one chaplain and two marine officers overseeing the marine security company. all told you put all the sailors and marines together just over 200 staff. we also have a white house communications agency attachment there that's a joint command coming out of the main command in downtown d.c. >> so can you tell us a bit about how camp david has changed over the years? it was very rustic when fdr first came to camp david. there's been some notable
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additions to the complex. you mentioned there's a chapel at camp david. talk a bit about the activities and how that complex has changed over time. >> go back to fdr again and apparently why the navy has it is because he took the sailors off the potomac and also brought them for security. and fdr only went there during the nonwinter months. truman not a fan of camp david preferred to go to key west. had the trees pushed back from the cabins and during eisenhower's time it's very rustic and still maintained that. but over the years for the use of the family and administration guests cabins have been added. president nixon during his time put a lot of expansion into the camp, expanding aspen, adding
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laurel which is the main entertainment cabin which you sometimes see on news reports and coverage of world leaders visiting and a number of other features throughout. maintained since then. it's been modernized at times. that's been going on for the past four to five years, a very sequential, smart way to keep it current but maintain the rustic nature out on the -- probably the most unique thing is the evergreen chapel donated through private money, gifted to the president of the united states and camp david and commissioned
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in 1991 during president george h.w. bush. >> and how did presidents get to camp david? you talk about fdr within driving distance but presidents don't historically drive in anymore. >> not ideally. weather permitting they'll fly in on hmx1 or the white top as we call marine one. they'll come up by motorcade from wherever their last departure point is. >> camp david is a presidential retreat yet we know presidents often find themselves working at camp david. tell us a little bit about how it functions as a white house in the maryland mountains. >> thank you. i think most people recognize no matter who's the president you're always on duty.
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there can be a lot of critiques but the fact is you're always on duty as president, and you need time off. we always need a time off. and in addition to a second home some presidents have, camp david provides that peaceful get away for family, friends and if needed for staff and world leaders. so i find it's been a great balance for history presidents go there to get away like the reagans went most of the time as a couple to get away. to think about things and sometimes bring guests with them. every president is a little bit different. to me as an outsider the best balance use it as a personal respite for family and friends and then you find it's a great place to bring world leaders to talk to privately. there is no press unless you invite the press in, no traffic,
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no planes flying overhead. serenely as i said quiet and peaceful and that's what you want. >> how do people if get around camp david? are there cars or golf carts or bikes? >> yes, firstly there are golf carts. everyone has a golf bicycles are available, and then pedestrian. we do have cross-country trails through the woods in the winter months, if you want to do that. snowmobiling, you saw the picture of president ford and his family during his presidency. principally golf carts to get around and walk. >> just a reminder to everyone, we are going to be taking questions at the end of our conversation. so if you do have questions for mike about camp david, its history, what it's like, please put them in the chat and we'll get to as many as possible. let's talk a little bit about the history of camp david and the historic events that have taken place for camp david. you talk about some of these episodes for them and why presidents might choose camp
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david for the setting of these historic occurrences. >> i'll mention four events and then i'll focus on a fifth one. so we see photos of fdr inviting winston churchill to the mountains and going off fishing in the nearby stream and smoking cigars and probably having a burger or two. but the poignant memos at the bottom left are talking about the war. that's roosevelt at the top left inside aspen, the stone hearth fireplace is still there. there's wagon wheel chandelier you can't see above the roosevelt table, that's still there. president truman only went ten times in his tenure, preferring to go to key west. president carter made it famous for most people in 1978 when the camp david peace accords, with anwar al-sadat of egypt and menachim begin of israel. 2012, president obama hosted the g-8 conference at camp david. the single time that most world leaders have been at camp david
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at any one time. but the incident i want to go back to is 1961, april 1961. president kennedy, inaugurated in january, succeeding president eisenhower. bay of pigs is being planned behind the scenes with the cia and u.s. government and others, passed off to the administration. and you see this photo at the top right that became a pulitzer prize winning photo called "serious steps." what's interesting about this i think from a human and political point is that president kennedy inherited the operation. it was launched. it did not go well, hence the name "bay of pigs fiasco."
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and he reaches across the political and personal aisle and invites president eisenhower to come to camp david, a place he knew much better, and help him understand how to get through this, how do i fix this mess, what do i do. it's a very poignant and significant moment, i think, because you have the new upstart democrat inviting the old guard, five-star retired general, former republican president there to talk about what to do. i think it's a very humble, maybe a possibly desperate measure, but a very humble way to recognize leadership and recognize what a president typically passes on between administrations and talk about what to do best for the country. >> you mentioned this already, mike, some presidents, and you talk about this in your book, some presidents and first families visit camp david more frequently than others. talk a little bit about the
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differences in how presidents and first families use camp david, and explain why you think that is. >> one, i think it depends on children. what are the ages of the president's children? i think that dictates, are they going to leave their leagues, their intramural leagues, back in dc, do they have friends there, or are the children grown and out of the house? two, some presidents have second homes and prefer to go there. some can do both. three, some like the quiet he nature. president clinton rarely went to camp david in his first term but used it more over his second term, over two terms he saw the value. some go somewhere else and prefer to go elsewhere. >> can you share one or two of your favorite memories from your time at camp david? >> there were certainly the historic moments most people would recognize because of news, working with the state department and madeleine albright to welcome president
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clinton, meeting yasser arafat and having a photo shaking his hands, and watching from the sidelines as president clinton spends two weeks trying to forge a middle east peace agreement. watching president bush early in his presidency welcome the blairs at camp david on a weekend, just two couples getting to know each other, just like you would do with two neighbors when one moves into the neighborhood. it's an important thing to watch from the sidelines. even though we get to serve there and see things, you have to remember, you're in the world for this brief time and you get to know some personal things about the families, but you're not of their world, and you have to understand and maintain that humility. so i'll tell two stories that are more personal in nature, because i think it helps to relate to families and parents. the first one is the final clinton weekend, four days
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nonstop, hundreds of guests coming through, dinners, a couple of musicians performing in the chapel. just a wonderful event. we got an opportunity to say goodbye to the clinton family. as i'm walking into the helicopter at 10:00 sunday night, with snow on the ground, saluting them, thanking them for leading our country, walking down to marine one for my last time to see them, chelsea clinton, a 20-year-old student at stanford, turns to me and hands me two stuffed animals. and she says, commander, i've had these in my bedroom for eight years at aspen, please give them to your daughters, thank your wife for everything they've done. just a touching, human approach, and of course great keepsakes now for the two girls. that's the first one. and here is the scene, the final time i see the clintons in 2001. the second one is a humorous story, it's in the book, it's about the goldfish. it's that juxtaposition you're in as the commander of the camp, and the fact that you're responsible for security yet
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you're the family that lives inside the gate and you have to go through the gate every time you have to run errands and do official things. it was the middle east peace summit, michelle had taken the girls down to the thurmont city fair, common thing to do if you're at camp david in the summer. she's coming back through the gate with the girls in the back seat, they each have little goldfish in a plastic bag they're each holding. we had a strict policy at that time, no animals at camp david, no pets. the in a reason corps guard, who knows us, everyone is doing their job, he says, ma'am, you can't bring pets into the camp. and she looks at them with a bit of an incredulous look. and the girls are hearing this, and the tear starts to come down their eye. she's looking them and he's looking at her and she's looking back at him. he's doing his job, mom's doing her job. michelle leans into the window and says, they're for dinner,
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and kind of winks. he says, yes, ma'am, and lets them proceed. there are these funny moments, we're still people there, we all live in rules and regulations and we see the human side. that's our favorite story because moms and dads and kids, that's what it feels like. thank you. >> the final chapter in your book is called "the true meaning of camp david." can you tell us, what is the true meaning, and is it different for every president and first family who spends time there? >> definitely different, as i describe how different families used it. the bushes had kennebunkport, president bush had crawford, but he loved camp david and spent every christmas there. for some, it's a special place to go for holidays. during my time, the clintons loved it for thanksgiving, eight
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thanksgivings the clintons went to camp david. first lady nancy reagan loved going there. he did all his radio addresses on saturdays from the cabin. they all used it differently. the meaning comes from, i think, the engagement with world leaders. and it has a theme of a camp david kind of place. the spirit of camp david, coined by one of the soviet premiers during that time. it was about a place where you could come together, with trust, in nature, no press unless you want it there, and just the ability to sit down as people, break bread, share a story, get to know each other. to me, that's the true meaning camp david. a place for our presidents to get away and relax as best they can, a place to entertain family, and probably one of the most unique places in the world, all within reasonable distance of the white house. >> mike, we have some really
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great questions from our live audience. nancy from facebook asks, i know that president reagan and nancy reagan rode horses while they were at camp david. is there a stable there, and what other activities are available besides swimming? >> the only time we've had a stable there, a coral, was during the kennedy years when macaroni, people know the pony, macaroni was kept there. i had one incident when president clinton and chelsea wanted to go horseback riding and they brought the horses up from washington, dc and they used the back gate to go through the nearby woods. so horseback riding is possible but there is no coral today. there is skeet shooting, trapshooting, snowmobiling, cross-country skiing. presidents want to go golfing, they go to the nearby golf course.
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they want to fish, there are nearby fishing holes on private farmlands that we have arrangements with. there's a bowling alley. there's a movie theater, a game room. there's a library. there's a bar, grounds, recreation shop, et cetera. >> david asks, have hikers ever from the catoctin mountains ever accidentally approached the perimeter of camp david? >> it happens. and there are some warning signs subtly put around the camp, quite a distance from it. you could drive by the road to camp. most people know not to go down it. we have protocols if you happen to approach the fence, there are things we deal with, to check you out and help you get back to your path. again, it's a no-fly zone, typically no aircraft fly over the camp. it happens, people stumble on it. >> didn't fdr make a wrong turn once to try to get to shangri-la and he came across a neighbor who wasn't too happy to see him? >> yes, in the days when they weren't always surrounded by
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agents, he knocked on the door and a lady yelled at him, who are you. >> dennis asks, what is the longest a president has stayed there? wasn't carter there for a week or more during the middle east peace talks? >> yes, there was a time carter was over a week, during the -- well, almost two weeks for the peace talks. as clinton was there, although clinton went to the g-8 summit in japan in the midterm. president carter also went look at during 1979. and he came back and gave that "malaise," what it's been called, he talked about the condition of the country, what was going on, we had the hostages taken in tehran, iran. all this was going to, and he secluded himself for almost two weeks, working there during that difficult time in his presidency. but typically, presidents go for
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a weekend. up friday, back sunday night. >> jeff asks a good question, how did eisenhower get naming rights to name camp david camp david? was there an executive order, was it legislation? or did he just have someone go out with lumber and paint and redo the signs? >> i like the second explanation best. but i don't know. i imagine there must have been something signed to change the name from the shangri-la moniker to camp david. we'll have to check the archives together, colleen. >> right. karen asks, when a president chooses not to visit camp david very often, how does that change staffing and operations? >> staffing operations don't
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change. you're always ready, your mission is to be always ready to receive. some presidents let camp david be used by guests. president carter visited with his whole family during president clinton's term. some presidents have allowed staff to use it. but if no one's there, you're just maintaining the place and taking care of it. that can be a morale issue. if no one visits, i had a gap of five months before a visit by president clinton. that's a lot of time, you get rusty, you have to practice at times. some weekends with presidents, you're always on and it becomes an uptempo or operations tempo as we say. >> that's the get gadi has. what happens at camp david when the president is away, what do you do as the staff? >> we have more time to do training, physical fitness programs, contests if time allows it. more time to send our sailors and marines to schools if necessary.
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again, you need to always be ready so you have a complete staff. but you're really sitting, waiting, taking care of the place, planting flowers, growing the grass, firefighter training. it's constant. certainly because you're always ready, you're ready to execute when the president does visit and that's what we live for, is those visits. >> jeff asks, has hollywood or the news media for a documentary, for example, ever filmed onsite at camp david? >> harry reasoner with abc news interviewed president ford inside the camp. i believe that's the only time there really was an interview done in that regard in what is camp david. certainly during world events like the middle east peace summit in 2000, the press was there in a secluded area to film the principals coming in, then they were escorted out on the bus. there have been hollywood guests of various guests over the years, musical guests and sports guests. but no real filming documentaries done on camp david
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other than from a distance, and from the archives, and any presidential films from the libraries. >> peter asks, what is the reason for the no pets rule at camp david? >> it was self-grown. today, the people who live there, the co is allowed to have a pet. it depends on what's happening in history. reading the book about the incident with nixon's french poodle and the camp commander's dog, it was a humorous time and why it dictated some changes. today we're a little more reasonable, i would say, about the pet rule. >> kathy asks, you mentioned the library. what kind of books are in the library and does it depend upon the administration? do the books change depending on the president or first family? >> we keep some archives in an open public library near the game room.
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so the history, that's where the white house christmas cards, holiday cards are kept and all the presidents send out, we put those in the movie theater and the library. in the cabin holly, which is where carter chose to meet with sad at and begin because of the smaller nature, i like that room because that library has most of the presidential papers, so this library has the presidential papers that are published and some historical novels about the military services and the presidents. that's what i mean when i refer to two libraries, one for public use on the use of camp david, and the second, the presidential papers. >> missy asks, do you have any stories about the johnson years in camp david, lbj? >> chuck howell, age 95, lives in coronado, california today. chuck and his family were there from the kennedy to johnson years. in the book it talks about johnson being particularly
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persnickety about absolutely scalding hot water in the shower and how chuck and the crew worked endlessly to try to make it as hot as possible, and how to deal with the air conditioning, all those little things that all of us fight in our own homes. chuck howell talks about that transition from kennedy, reacting to the assassination, bringing president johnson and his family into camp. >> grant asks, has president biden visited camp david, do you know? >> he's been there eight times so far, which is pretty good. he leaves most weekends, if you've read in the paper recently, going to delaware, rehoboth beach.
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he's been to camp david eight times since january as president. he was there a number of times as vice president. >> tiffany asks, is camp david ever damaged by bad weather? >> there's wind that will sometimes knock down trees in the catoctin national park. but fortunately nothing serious has hit the camp. >> marion asks a good question, has there ever been a wedding at camp david? >> one wedding, president george h.w. bush's daughter was married there in the chapel, evergreen chapel, one wedding. >> and saul from facebook asks, what was the biggest surprise you ever had while working at camp david? >> the day the sprinklers went off when president clinton was chipping golf balls behind aspen. the sprinklers go off, i didn't witness it, but secret service are watching nearby. he moved, the sprinklers went off again, and he threw his clubs into the golf cart, he drew over to the drive range, the bags weren't secure and the clubs fell all over the asphalt.
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it's humorous, but you can deal with the frustration of someone dealing with that. i tried to make light of it on the night he left camp david, it was a poor attempt at humor. you learn the balance of when to be serious and not too serious and when not to be too humorous. i learned not to try to be too humorous. that was the funniest time. fortunately i had no serious incidents during my time. there were tough things going on in the world. i left the month before 9/11 occurred. and there was a whole -- we spent a lot of time describing what that commander went through at the time. but light moments during my time, fortunately. >> charlene asks, how much heads-up do you get to know when a president is coming? >> depends on the president. on change of command day, 10:00 a.m., typically a ceremony, 10:00 a.m., and my predecessor knew president clinton wasn't even scheduled to come at all, 10:00 a.m. ceremony, that morning about the ceremony, we get word, the president is
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coming that night. so a fascinating pucker factor to realize you're about to inherit a camp, you know nothing, really, about what goes on, you've had briefings, but you're the new co, you're driving the car, it's brand-new. i found that to be a very fortunate event for me, because it taught me just to sit back, let people do their jobs. all i have to do is get dressed up, walk down there, introduce myself, shake hands, salute, and that's all i did that first day. but i learned a lot about my crew. and it helped to set the humility about, let people do their job, train them, have their back, support them, let them do their job. so that was no notice. the bush administration, very scripted, we always knew well ahead of time. again, it depends on the person. >> jane asks a good question. can the vice president and his or her family go there as well? >> if the president allows him, them to. it's happened in history. not a lot, but occasionally. as i said earlier, sometimes the president won't let staff or others go away for leadership retreats.
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president obama did that a lot for his staff members, a leadership retreat. so the commander at the time and the chaplain would welcome people and they would do what they were there to do and go back on a sunday. so it's varied. >> carolyn asks, if you know this, do you know how the pandemic has affected camp david? are there new procedures in place? >> very observant of the mask rules early on. very observant of vaccinations. again, this is telling of the trump administration, beginning of the biden administration, everyone is very observant of following the rules, either by the white house, the white house, what the president wants, or by the navy's health protection division. very appropriate response. i don't think it's held back -- maybe it's held back from a lot of outside guests coming. and certainly no world leaders have been there in five years.
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boiled down so some pretty minute things that still felt as though they had brood influence. indication of his ideology and the ways in which he was a threatening president. they mocked him actually in the statement they made is the philosophic president prefers shoestrings when other folks were buckles. in one way or another jefferson was saying buckles are superfluous and anti-republican. shoelaces apparently were in style in france so that actually is another anti-french statement on something as trivial as shoelaces but again uttering jefferson that changed dramatic during jefferson's second term. >> jane asks what is the food like at camp david? a good question. >> for ourselves, we run a galley operation for our sailors and marines. it is available to the guest it's they want it. the lounge and bar has bar food available. but for visits, we work with the
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first family usually with the social secretary of first lady to work the menu. they work with the white house mess, navy mess to prepare the meals. for world leaders with, he sometimes work with the state department. especially for kosher meals during the arafat visit, kosher meals were brought up from d.c. to provide meals for all guests. and so we accommodate the guests. but day to day, we have a galley that serves the crew that works there. >> what is something you think every american should know about camp david? >> it's a navy command. just like marine one is a marine command and air force one is an air force wing. it was first established in 1942
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by president roosevelt. >> missy asks what is the highest rank of a some of the marines or the navy at camp david? >> the camp commander is a commander, u.s. navy commander. sometimes that officer might be selected for captain as he is -- he or she is departing the camp. it's a commander villa. the senior marine is the captain, marine corps captain. he is the c.o. of the marine security company. and maybe lieutenant colonel typically of the army, u.s. army. >> and our last question this evening, several viewers asked this. why did you decide to write the book on camp david? and what was one or two things that were just fascinating that you learned while you were researching to write the book? >> thank you. wonderful final question. on the day of change of command, there is a photo of my wife and
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two daughters at the age of 7 and 4. my wife michelle. and she hands me this journal. and the first page of the journal is a scroll note from the two girls saying, dear daddy, please write stories about the president's journal some day our kids will read about it. i never thought of it. and so after every visit, weekend or vent, i would sit down and i would just kind of write down what happened. so i did that for the clinton administration, end of it. i did that for the inauguration of bush which we attended and then through the first eight months. i put that way in the top desk at home and never opened it to be 17 years. a lot of the former commanding officers were there and spouses and meeting each other. some meeting for the first time. some we had known each other for years. and i heard, you know, many of them were talking about trying to capture the history and i learned later that many of them
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had written their own stories. so i first realized i was -- i could write the book as long as i had a security review done. it was possible. i knew i wasn't going to write anything that was unattractive to any president. i knew i could get 15 other officers from kennedy and ford. i felt now we have the whole unity of the history of the camp, a lot of the camp together. other cos and tell their stories. you'll see their stories and names in the book. you'll see the photos. and use it that way to really become a historical narrative of the personal insights. and so i think it was well received that way. some people wanted dirt. some people wanted stories. that wasn't the purpose. it was to tell the stories, a little bit about the inside workings and how the military supports the presidency around the world 24/7.
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>> thank you so much, mike, for joining us on white house history live. this has been a very comprehensive discussion. thank you to the viewers for watching this evening. >> a weekly series, the presidency, highlights the politics, policies and legacies of u.s. presidents and first ladies. recently we took a look back at gerald ford, the only white house occupant never to have been lekted vice president or president. he took office on august 9th, 1974, after president nixon's resignation donald holloway discussed his life and presidency. >> this is film. if you would go ahead and start it. i'm going to show first minute and a half of it. this was filmed that just serendipitously was found at the archivists of the grand rapids public library. he called me up and said, hey, i found this film. i think you'd be interested in seeing it.
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and it was film shot by the father of one of the players on the ottawa high school team. gerald ford attended south high. here we see a 1929 football match between ottawa high school and south high. the first game of the season. south high kicks off in the dark uniforms. ottawa receives. gerald ford, this is his junior year. he is playing in here. and the fillsome good enough that you can look at it slide by slide, frame by frame and find number 23 in in it. ford would become the captain of the team the next year. i'm going to freeze frame. you can see the only known footage of gerald ford playing high school football. number 23 coming in from the right hand side. slow it down.
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