tv Drs. Walensky Fauci Others Testify on Response to COVID-19 Variants -... CSPAN January 14, 2022 6:13pm-7:28pm EST
[inaudible conversations] this committee will reconvene. thismi committee will conduct itself with -- and i'm going to be very strict with the five-minute rule as we have moved past her time here and we need to moveov on. with that i look forward to the next round of questions so we can get to work in addressing
this pandemic which has affected so many lives and continues to threaten public health and we will begin with senator baldwin. >> thank you madam chair. doctors walensky during our last hearing we discussed the critical need for a bio preparedness workforce legislation that i at a deuce with senators collins and murkowski to strengthen outbreaks in the workforce so we can better prepare for the next pandemic plus would address the serious workforce shortage and recruitment that you mentioned by establishing a new loan repayment program focused on encouraging students in careers such as clinicians and biopreparedness health professionals. as this committee assembled policies and responses in this
pandemic it's important to rememberon without people theres no preparedness. in the midst of the omicron surge it has neverto been clear that we need a robustde and capable workforce to fully respond to public health emergencies. the bio preparedness workforce act would go a long way towards that goal so doctors walensky is an infectious disease physician and public health leader can you share mores. about how is drawn clinical and public health workforce is key to responding to outbreaks and how legislation like the bio preparedness workforce act is important for the future public health emergencies? >> thank you senator. there so much here's a first for me just say there has been a recent study that iswo demonstrated our public health reports art down so just to give you a sense of the public health
reports it's not positions during the work on the ground it's public health reports -- we saw to this pandemic the challenges and the volume of the people doing public health work. also where they were located. we need an upscale public health workforce. for example we need people to do genomic sequences and we need epidemiologists and peoplett who are as diverse as the communities they serve. we also need to make sure they are compensated and have the right salaries and get payment for their work. the infectious disease physicians are among the lowest paid in hospitals. they don't do procedures and by virtue of not doing procedures fromom a standing -- financial standpoint they do what is the bread-and-butter of clinical
investigation. public health americorps is a big piece of data that's something we are working on an art very grateful to be able to do so. there's a vital need to expand their public health workforce in the lab atara capacity genomic surveillance and disease outbreak investigation into workforce is upscale and is diversee as the communities are. thank you. >> thank you. we all know vaccines remain the best way to protect itself against covid-19 and i'd been encouraged by the das were to authorize vaccines for the public and parents continue to be concerned that we don't have a vaccine for their kids is omicron surge is. dr. dawn woodcock dashed that their woodcock can you explain where we are in the authorization of covid-19 vaccines forco children under fe likes
>> yes dr. fauci said earlier one of the companies pfizer have done trials and their other trials going on. there were complications with the dose in a slightly older children. perhaps indicating a third dose is dr. fauci said mike he needed through primary regimen. the fda is working with companies very closely. i too have heard from many parents of the end as children and they have other children at school and they may have immunocompromised children in theirou household and they are people who really want to getld this vaccine. or one of the vaccine to get the children vaccinated so we are working very intensely on this right now. we are working with nih and the company. >> thank you. i yield back.
>> dr. fauci it's disappointing free to suggest that people who dare to question you are responsible somehow and realized by taking me you are attacking the one member who has suffered attacks. as the low field and almost diagnosed 10 feet away from a staffer who was shot in the leg. over 160 rounds of semi i medical weapons fired at us ammunition so for you to suggest that somehow i arere people who dare to oppose you it is to the person they shot at us and almost killed steve scalise was a supporter of bernie sanders. the one thing you'll find if you look at the record is not one of those accused bernie sanders of being responsible for that. this is the kind of personally attacks that you have engaged in. you've engage in these packs
with fellow scientists bring up only three scientists from harvard oxford in stanford that you chose to malign 50,000 scientists and medical doctors sign this petition. what they wanted the something that most americans think is pretty reasonable. it's a different kind of approach. instead of saying that everyone is the same and everyone should get the same treatment everybody out to just get vaccinated what he did was say that the death rate for this disease is extraordinary according to a just so if you look at and 80-year-old at the 1000 times death rate as for 10-year-old so would we want to say where we assess the risk of each individual have the treatment according to that or will you simply say everyone should be vaccinated? the death rate for kids under 18 is one in a million. a little bit less than a chance of being struck by lightning. we don't get -- whether not kids have had covid might be a risk
or side effects of the vaccine and still need to be explored. for a kid under 18 is have covd it's one in a million even if you haven't had covid, one in a million which is extraordinarily uncommon for chabot die. if you've had the disease it's a great deal less than that. many americans wonder why he steadfastly refused to work with others to hide any knowledge of natural amenity and how would affect their decision-making. for example you have a 10-year-old kid whose mom comes up and gets myocarditis from the vaccine and dies. it's usually aware complication. what are you going to tell her when she says well he had covid three months ago, why would you force me to vaccinate my kid without checking to see whether he is already immune? natural immunity is the idea upon which vaccines are made and we believe all the medicine is
based on the idea of acquiring natural immunity. people often respond and say we don't know how long it will last. we don't know how long vaccines will last. we know that the vaccines are waiting quickly and we do know the vaccine against omicron is not preventing transmission. the debate has shifted and it's talking about hospitalizations and deaths and i agree with those statistics and i think it's a good idea if you are at risk to be vaccinated. i've always been pro vaccine i'm just simply against authoritarianism against mandates. the anchor that develop with you dr. fauci is you'd want to tell us what to do. you think you are the science and anybody who respond to you, how dare you, how dare you criticize science as if that somehow our science for that kind of air gets that's where the anger is coming towards you. if you were one doctor amid
hundreds of doctors in government who gave advice people might object to your advice but it wouldn't be at such a degree of anger. you are so certain you are righe that it uart willing to hear anybody else. three e. b. -- epidemiologists from it in their field at oxford stanford, you malign bimini spoke openly of dr. can't. he went after them and said we will do a public takedown not in science y or nature. a left-wing publication. you've engage in base politics and you wonder why there's so much anger? you are not an object scientist. you lost that long ago. so manybl the things that people want they want to know why you are forcing children to be vaccinated when 90% of van vaccinated over 95% of people over 65 it's a voluntary success
and he won't rest until you force every child to get this. >> senator paul -- >> nobody wishes to violence. civic center to poll your violent -- your time has expired. i will allow dr. fauci to respond. >> thank you. first of all senator again at hearing such as this where there are almost 900,000 people this country that died from this outbreak you have chosen to make personal attacks on me to go back to multiple hearingss and again just for the record for people to check i never said take people down in that e-mail an e-mail that was sent to me -.
>> senator paul this is my time. >> you personally attacked me and the things that you do are incorrect and proven incorrect. a public way accuse me at a hearing of being responsible for the death of 5 million people when there is not a single, a single shred of o evidence that anything that was done with the nih had anything to do with covid-19. you talk about things like -- >> dr. fauci i will let you respond and i think you have responded. seneca appreciate the time. thank you very much. i just want to say i'm actually stunned by the amount of misinformation. the only thing i'vepp ever done this will take 20 seconds comes to look the things i have said that support the recommendations of the cdc, their advisory committees and that the fda. i tell people it's important to get vaccinated to get listed, to a mask and to be prudent.
that's the only thing i've said. i happened anything that is a monolith with me. always public health practices and anybody that goes back over any record they know that. >> thank you and i retain the balance of my time. thank you very much. >> thankec you chair murray. i want to start with dr. walensky. is you know the cdc has been working with my staff on an outstanding nursing home vaccine data request and i would appreciate it if you would continue to work with me and our committee to resolve this data. >> yes, thank you senator. i'm aware of that and i'm t committed to working with you great thank you. >> let me turn to a matter for the health and human services. secretary o'connell you know that our nation is at ground
zero during the first year covid-19. 200,000 residents and workers and residents plus the number of workers whoea have died at 200,0 over the steers however nursing home death have declined dramatically thanks to the saeb ineffectiveness of the vaccines. to credit to the administration that 90% of nursing home residents and 80% of workers have been vaccinated and we know infections are on the rise raising safety concerns and putting additional pressures on workers. for instance we know the pandemic has worsened existing staffing shortages and we note the same time the rescue plan the democrats passed in march helps to fill the staffing gap with a 500 million-dollar initiative for a strike team
based upon legislation that i was leading recently. these strike teams provide meta--- medical personnel and other support to help nursing homes get through the surges like the ones we are seeing right now. on the 22nd of december of last year i along with three of my colleagues in the letter to secretary becerra asking how health and human services was protecting nursing homes residents and workers in the surgeal including the distributn of mr. shots. what is hhs doing to ensure the nursing homes have the support they need to protect residents and workers who care for those patients? >> thank you so much for your question. we share your concern for nursing home staff and volunteers facility resident and continue to do all we can to make sure they have access.
we have worked with pharmacies and vaccination clinics in long-term facilities and skilled nursing facility so that vaccines are available on the groundlo so residents don't have to travel to access vaccines on our own. >> in their facilities and having access is one of the ways they can stay sample top of where they are so we share your concern and we look forward to responding to your letter. >> thank you very much. >> next senator. >> thank you, dr. janet woodcock, i know that you said a
while ago, that your excited about what webex accomplish and i think that we all are but fda issued revised garden stating that it would focus is review efforts on at home testing and the care of the covid-19 applications from the developers the capacity to manufacture 10,500,000 test per week within three months of bein authorized. one of the mta move the goalpost at this particular time and izsuggest to the companies who cannot ramp up that manufacturing, but they're not going to get an accelerated pathway. >> well because of some of the members have been discussing over the last several hours that we have not entered we have an urgent need for home-based yes and we have done through heaven and earth, just as many done as
possible we improved and authorized over 400 different kinds of tests and test collection devices during this pandemic but as far as with the queue, that's a priority over prioritizing it gently am just putting them to the front so that we can get home test into hands. >> i get what t you are doing a, my questions is this, what is a safe to the innovative companies at their they do not have the manufacturing capacity without us marrying them to a large manufacturer capacity. alissa: say don't innovate is not going to get consideration under the eua if you do not have a manufactured five and a thousand test week. >> these are prioritized, does not say that you won't get to the southerners, there's all of a sudden the sense of urgency and i think that might have been
thought of before we did this i am challenge on this procurement as you can tell i don't understand mothers not been released and publicly announcing that here is how many that we contracted it but i have got to find it somewhere in a deity contract that is very limited amount of people go to certainly not one that ied regularly look at the based ont what your contract, we have 316 million tests from the vodka distributor is about $14.000 c must just that i knew rule the mandated that insurers must cover up to eight test per person per week or per month for family of four, that is 32 test
that they can reimburse at $12. , manufacturer, and i am under 12-dollar reimbursement or i can go over here, i i sell directly in the government get $40 i will probably sell and get the $40 and where am i wrong. >> thank you we continue to work to access the test that will be distributed as part of the 500 million and the testing that you are referring to, so first of all, the duty by tradition has put out whenever we done acquisitions with them, they put out within the first 24 hours, the contract going up the announcement that the contract had gone out so that's what you're seeing in this been come the weight than the dod has approach this toha our entire relationship and we are continuing - >> so why is not a similar public statement.
>> we be happy doing thank you senator, i will go back and talk to the mitigation steam and see if there is a companion press release to make sense us to put up. >> on a short you address my concern which is more profitable than it is been in retail based on the reimbursement of this administration is now required to ensure them hoping you will think about that and this was alarming to me and there are no tests out there, no testing on the shelves and the people can go invited to come unto itself may seem more confusing with the cdc policy that if you wanted take a test, go ahead and tickets are required be the ticket, you cannot get it and very quickly dr. fauci, south african data suggests that omicron may have an ability to build community to delta, does not have immunity or build
immunity to omicron. i got comments on that and cypress of the amount of delta, variant. >> and down very quickly, the epidemiologist, just this week said they expected for the next two weeks, they willl see a doubling of the infections in israel, meaning the following the same timeline thatt we saw n south africa and how should we interpret that for the u.s. >> thank you for those questions and with regard, too early to tell these are dealing with multiple population and demography of people who have been previously infected vaccinated or what have you and it seems pretty clear that if you get infected, with omicron, you will get good protections
against omicron but also good protection against some of the sum of the other spillovers we really have it the scene i think the basis of your question, is a reasonable and if we hundred and in of getting infected at a very low level of omicron a pathogen, that will be sort of almost like a live vaccine, i don't think we can say right now we really have to see how things spread out when we see how that fairs out in the next variant so there will be invariably, hon in the various and we will have to take a look at whether or not there will be any protections there, that is the first thing and with regard to the delta variant, i know even though it has a bunch of mutations that people look at, it is something that at least the who is looking at this carefully, feels that has to be something that is of great concern but we always keep our eye on it to make sure so when you say is not of a great concern now, one encouraging thing about it, is is been
around for a while, listening to popped up and yet omicron completely obstructed as the delta to does not look like as a capability being transmissible enough to be a problem nonetheless, i stillmp keep an e out on it with regards to israel, i forgot your question about his role can be repeated. >> and we are way over time. >> about three weeks in front of us, yet their expanses not happen down drastically like south africa and data shows that they went up and now it looks like over the next two weeks, he they think that it will double and doubly and what should we expect. >> i think it's a great question senator but what would it really reflections that when you have an outbreak in particular variant, how high it goes up, when it peaks income sam, the reflection it what the status is in your country because if you
look at what you saw in south africa, the romans. delta and they got omicron's own omicron format the capability of going way up and went down and what you talk about initial, two different ability mostly mostly vaccinated so still likely see breakthrough infections in the united states we havepu such a large country, with differences in vaccinations, versus infectis etc. that we believe that we will see if week, and come down was very difficult to predict whether it's going to be a sharp increase or will do this, our own feeling and i believe that dr. rochelle walensky feels the same way that i do, that it will bury depending upon where in the country you are and how much infection you had previously and what is the level of vaccination so we may see a big up and down in some regions of the country in a pickup in doing this in other regions of the country.
>> thank you, senator smith. >> thank you. i would like to ask a question of dr. rochelle walensky, i think we all know that americans need better access to rapid testing and this is a big deal to us in terms of how do we protect ourselves and how to meet also go about our lives and i think we are making headway, we have a long way to go pretty dr. rochelle walensky, i would like you to talk about this issue of how we should be or not collecting and analyzing the data from rapid home test, to be incorporating this data into where should we try to capture the data, this is important for local communities is a friend make the decisions about the masking the public health strategies that they want to deploy pretty show we should this be a tool of individual
risk or for population levels understanding what is happening. >> thank you so we have been using the pcr, not the rapid test, lab test, and really get a good view of where we are in terms of the epidemiologist and for anticipating what will come into hospitals, it's very important to empower themselves not health do not expose themselves to other people to get some information about their own health and so if an individual were to test positive, the feeling well, they should consult with a healthcare provider and your pharmacies and health department but if you're feeling well, use a rapid test to say okay it was positive and i need to stay home and isolate and protect myself in the community when commandment entered community for man my loved ones so they don't get infected themselves and i think that this was about the absolute
case count understanding whether you have a symptom medic infection or running us in the rapid test was positive than it is really about empowering you to do the right thing and not be forward transmitting. >> and could you talk a little bit about what countries are a doing are the country's going hard incorporating this rapid testing data into their publishing metrics and how's that working in a place around the world. >> some countries aren't smart, london uk has been doing more reporting rapid testing that they too are a saying that they are missing around 40 percent might have to confirm the a numr but they capturing more than i have try to they also agreed missing some as well. >> thank you predict i want to acknowledge something that's been going on here today that i think deserves being callouts, you know, dr. fauci is been the target of theng campaign of disinformation and distortion
and personaln attacks and being blamed for all this anger is been generated against him and i think that needs to be honest here is being done by some members of the republican party there using it for fundraising i'm not saying that's by some members of his happening and somebody sent out earlier in 2020, it was a dr. fauci for prison e-mail i think that it is important that we - all i have to call this out i think it's important that we see it and we have to try to rise above this kind of behavior. our committee here should be focusing on these kinds of 90 ready policy questions and we will not always greener never heard dr. fauci or dr. rochelle walensky declare themselves to be invisible and i certainly am
not but that should not mean that individuals public servants are subjected to this kind of abuse and thank you. >> thank you, senator collins a. >> ms. o'connell, i want to my previous questions to you because i do not feel frankly that i got answers. i am asking you specifically, how much money was diverted from the testing budget to deal with the surge of people including unaccompanied minors illegally this tethering border crossing and how much money was diverted to the fund is allocated for the strategic stockpile. >> thank you and again all the funds as they were appropriated
to the american rescue plan or for testing contact tracing, and litigation efforts, correspondence, funds were used to unaccompanied children of the border and to mitigate the covid-19 positive basis so they would not enter the community and by covid-19 which was the use of the funds i was allowed under the testing contact tracing and mitigations requirements. >> you still not answering my question on the amount of money is used to deal with a crisis at the southern border. i will tell you that are step investigation found that $850 million out of the testing budget and another $850 million out of the locations for the
stockpile were instead used to deal with a crisis at the southern border. do those sound right to you. >> sooner, you can take that back and discuss it with our financing to make sure those numbers on the same numbers that they are tracking. >> will have to say, it is interesting to me that you know all a the numbers i commend you for this, never going to the community programs in schools, etc. but you cannot tell me how much was reallocated to deal with the crisis at the southern border. the crisis that were brought under control, we would have funds for the purposes that they were intended. let me ask you further, we mean when you say, mitigation, as
applied to the southern border and the unprecedented search of people crossing. >> thank you one of the important things that we needed to do when we identified a covid-19 positive unaccompanied child was make sure for example they did not arrive in the same bus for shelter covid-19 negative child so were additional costs for transportation to get the children separate to mitigate the spread has a statute allowed us to spend those funds and in addition within the shelters, it was necessary to set about to promote the covid-19 positive children would reside so that would not interact with the covid-19 negative children and required additional resources in the shelters in order to keep them separate sue and the children entered is a community with her sponsors, they were not bringing covid-19 into the community. >> will i will tell you, having
visited the southern border and they mark, testing was being doy people of been there for weeks at a time with no testing. and were adult who were released into the community with no testing. the fact remains that if we had the southern order, we had an under control, we would be using the cane or $50 million designated for testing, to find more rapid tests and we would be using the money out of the stockpile, and 50 million, for the purposes of which it was intended it so i think this is a problem that has contributed to shortage of testing, the
uncontrolled prices at the border, and i am perplexed by the lack of federal orders protest between january and september of 2021. which i know from my experience in maine, has a major manufacturer, to lay off 400 workers that were producing the tests because it lacked the federal organ it makes no sense to me and seems very shortsighted and thank you. >> right and thank you, and again thank each of you for your public service. dr. rochelle walensky, who would like to talk you for a moment about genomic sequencing even
before covid-19 appeared, colorado made a genomic sequencing of diseases a high priority and now they were one of the leading states to detect changes is able in covid-19. which is about 15 percent of all positive covid-19 test, think us to one of the highest rates in the country mr. monitor wastewater can community detection to dr. rochelle walensky, how can we expand genomics surveillance and expend those capabilities in order to stay ahead of existing but also feature threat of covid-19 or otherwise, and we close the gap between the states that are heavily following the senate those that hard. >> thank you and also for your
leadership in colorado for genomic sequencing in his image and we have both the numbers and geographic traditions in order to get real good you what is heading and having a genomic sequencing, we need the samples from everything lab, also samples from commercial labs which gives us a lot of volume and partnerships now with 19 academic medical centers in order to do so and what we do and we power the sequencing so we are able to detect a sequence that's less than .1 percent salute skillet based on the number of cases that we have, we scale up or down so that we can detect it more able to do with omicron is when we saw the footprint of the target failure pcr was similar footprint itself up, we are able to target the enhanced surveillance of sequences that actually have initial corporate able to identify sequences even before the recent point of 1 percent
threshold. so we can scale this up in wastewater and for purposes of anti- microbial resistance and were really looking forward to doing out that we've established is incredible capacity. >> right, perfect. when asked to question terms, you talk a lot about the test andd schools are workplaces or hospitals, talk about how you have enough tests out there not the results quickly enough. in terms of distributions of tests, and national level, working one system i know you're part of this book completely colorado formative systems in ioplace with just to be mailed directly to people in their home and idy guess, i don't know, the
federal government working safely colorado and trying to the systems already in place and how we integrate the federal system with the states. >> absolutely thinking center, that is terrific what colorado is doing and we have invested $29 billion in the state so they can set up such testing programs however they saw fit everything stays i colorado use those funds to be able to do exactly over anhoping to do it a national level. when process of setting this up working with you u.s. postal service is the federal government and we will allow american households border and delivered to the house as well i imagine we will in addition to what colorado is able to provide, have as many tests available to all americans as possible so as colorado is already doing it, that's terrific and i'm sure we will
learn lessons from the experiences that you had in your state and apply them to the national initiatives. >> think of that and quickly, dr. fauci, we have heard from dr. rochelle walensky you integrate the large amount of data in a discussion about israel versus south africa and really is a question of how we take my question is, how do we take information from global sources and learn from the countries who are ahead of us on the curb and make sure we learning it from their experiences nothing how can we do a better job with their international partners to make sure we prepared for the next thing. >> will thank you very much and that's an excellent question we are just actually doing that.
every week - ten days i have a long phone call with chris quinney and patrick, two leading medical and scientific advisors to the prime minister of england, get a feel of what is going on there. we have really phone calls with israeli colleagues in every saturday or sunday morning, depending uponmi what is dr. rochelle walensky and i and others are on the phone with our south african colleagues were literally in constant communication with them. >> thank you. >> the american people, and my family all of our families are struggling as this pandemic continues to drag on with no and insight. words are here every day multiple times, each day continue to resonate and echo in my mind as i said here more like i amac tired, i'm confused, burnout, scared, and frustrated the list goes on. making the situation worse than
leading response going on national television, and contradicting each other and off course, justices are spreading misinformation as well and dr. rochelle walensky this past week he recommended asymptomatic people able to return to work after five days, but dr. anthony fauci ambiguously corrected you a national television and suggested something to do test before return how does make you feel when dr. anthony fauci something like the justice stated the previous statement or policies of course, high predictions or offers false claims it cause more confusionor for the american people. >> thank you center, a great honor of disturbance in this country will work collaboratively with televisions run the country to provide guidance and also i work with the covid-19 work force multi-
disciplinary group of people from immunology to drug-related regulations to epidemiology and assigns is moving really quickly oand i know you will appreciate that is moving fast and it is changing - >> you didn't answer my question so i will move on and the fda is protocol fora monoclonal antibodies, pharmaceuticals to be prioritized based upon race. dr. janet woodcock has the cdc or fda done multiple aggression analysis if indeed is an independent factor for increased morbidity and mortality in the dance, did you think zip code would be far predict even when makes sense to prioritize these antivirals for that matter, to senior citizens and those with significant coma rated the regardless of race especially if that analysis proves my opinion.
>> dr. janet woodcock. >> what the fda did was to recommend if the people at high risk would be candidates for these products. >> usual multi- regression analysis on this independentpl factor. >> we did not, we don't make those kind of recommendations, so that we you can do studies, right, studies deceive is a truly an independent factor or issue should be about your comorbidity in your page so dr. anthony fauci, according to forbes, even annual salary in 2020, $41,304,000. you see $5 billion in federal research grants, is highest paid employee in the entire federal government, is no boot do be willing to commit to congress and the public a initial disclosure and include your past and current investments and
after all you calling dr. rochelle walensky every member of congress mr. financial disclosure that includes their investment. [inaudible]. >> i don't understand why you asked me that question, my financial this closure is public knowledge and is been so for the last 37 years or so, she met big tech giants are doing incredible job of keeping it from being public and will continue to look emma will when we find it what you have to do to express. >> you're so misinformed. [inaudible]. >> wouldn't you agree with me that you see things before members of congress so that there is an error have appearance that maybe some shenanigans are going on.
[inaudible]. >> what he talking about, my financial disclosures are public knowledge been so, you're getting amazingly wrong information. >> i cannot find them ouric offe cannot find them so were would they be of the public knowledge, where. >> fully accessible to you if you want it to the public to great. >> you're totally incorrect. >> where is it. >> senator marshall, is public information. >> thank you. i know this is been talked about and i watched a bit of a hearing just my office this morning and into this afternoon about couldl you highlight for me and i'm supposing this will be for dr. funding,dcock, lots of think adequate funding certainly
knowledge about winter months would bring an increase of cases, what is a challenge and not being better prepared practice to testing command home and elsewhere. and how soon will that change. >> i think it is a question for the secretary but i will tell you fda has approved or authorized over 400 tested and systems that just of covid-19 and we have approved a authorized 15 over-the-counter just, is the capacity that we are talking about here, the production capacity. >> so there is no, which are telling me is ours no problem with the fda approval of the test, to manufacturing process supply chain. >> we do more with more resources and we have authorized
over 2000 different device products including the 400 test related products into your so this incredible increase in workload and we really appreciate the funding that congress has provided however, the test manufacturers, many of them give us incomplete results we have to go back and forth with them, the program that we are doing and i asked for home testing, i think will improvement tremendously, that's a big advance forward but there's also the matter of production capacity the huge surgeon 70 people becoming infected. >> to separate fda results process which the test is read and determined positive or negative, no challenges there in
the process. >> that is what that program a is doing, are actually doing laboratory and clinical testing manufacturers and they soon as the data was standardized in the paneling truly accelerating our ability to get these authorized quickly and as i said, the authorized of them within two days of getting the data from this program so that is a tremendous set up and i think it's really beneficial we have standardized testing, and the government and that enables manufacturers to get there products through very fast. >> thank you, and just pick up where dr. janet woodcock left off, once theel tester authorizd after they reach out to the manufacturers can make sure were optimizing manufacturing
capability so that part is a seamless process that we have but all of the work doing testing of this administration is in service of four priorities to expand the number of testing sites and 28 to expand the number of tests that are available, this part i'm workig on to increase passing through the kinds of tests that are available sports what dr. janet woodcock just discussed and help lower the cost of the test. is there a problem, i don't know whether to testing devices or manufacturing domestically, to be another challenge of the importation of tests as we did with masks gowns and gloves. >> we continue to look for test wherever we can find them we've encouraged some testing manufacturers that are approved your to apply for fda approval in the united states would you anticipate we will some importation of tests some point
we use that authority 12 times to support the domestic menu patrick and priority rate and the source of the begin increase supplies and capacity here in the u.s. >> we have changed i think our view unmasked recently, emphasizing 95 mask is there any intention to our plan to manufacture additional masks so they are available or way to make them more comfortable, the n95 mask helped leave that to the rest my question. >> we continue just for the manufacture the n95 mask, 71,308,000,000 in the stockpile and that source from 12 domestic manufacturing so we continue to support that we are also in the process began in agreement for
home-based manufacturing to are able to keep the capacity that we currently have going even when demand it diminishes and so that is underway now and as far as the fit in the silent how they work, am sure your calling to the table are probably have various pieces of their programs might be precipitation consulting with manufacturers on how that will work. >> thank you. >> i'm sure there's plenty of information when it comes to misinformation on both sides when it comes to covid-19, i will say that fear mongering on the left, made that matters much worse, and dr. anthony fauci for my constituents back in alabama, they hear about this, afford drug, because the wonder drug about the nickel tablet, sent wonder supposedly in india, and
other places and you have this new antiviral pill this coming out, my constituency this point because six or $700 each, could you give me a rundown on the difference on the soup and what you think about them on microseconds among people back home that this is what dr. anthony fauci says. >> drove from pfizer, as shown in randomized placebo-controlled trial, to be highly effective 2.89 percent, almost 90 percent, packs of it made by pfizer and been shown in very well controlled random controlled trial that if you think about compared to the placebo, within the first three - five days, the first three days you have about it in 9 percent chance of preventing you from coming to the hospital are going, there
were no deaths in a group there were several desk inta the placo group. and the antidrug has drug trial suggesting that it might be effective in mostly anecdotal, the nih guidelines panel have looked at the data is not sufficient evidence to say it works or does not, to be a joe beckman strongly against it and suggest might actually be harmful, the nah acted study doing a bunch of studies, to try to settle it once and for all to prevent people from taking it doesn't work and could because keep so there's a world of difference between these two. >> but this is a 40 year drug, were talking one just now coming on the market so quickly know
that much about this pfizer drug, which they would come up with an easier name. >> they always do that, they flew me as well but it is what it is. i think that it is a missed comparison to save that one is a 40 year drug and one is a drug k just discovered tomorrow is just discovered a bit of a sound very swell controlled clinical trial to be highly effective even though it's a good drug for some parasite, some been shown in a well controlled trial to be effective in covid-19. >> thank you, dr. rochelle walensky i don't know if anybody is asked you this but i want to get it cleared up, supreme court justice last week is looking into the situation with mandate he said 100,000 children that are sick as we speak with omicron and a lot of them are serious in the hospital, it were
false. >> one of the numbers i now, slightly less than 100,000. >> in the justice brower said that we continue to lay this ruling, that would have seven or 50000 more vaccinated infected a day, is it makes us feel. >> when he can tell you is our children between the ages of zero four, one of the only hospitalizationda rates have currently rising, children the hospital are generally unvaccinated, is true and some are ineligible also to for five - 11 and 12 - 17. >> thank you very much. >> thank you and one final question for dr. rochelle walensky, invest between school district service significant number of students of color and
those in low income rural areas facing great challenges in research they need for students, how the federal government work make sure that states are equitably is repeating the test necessary resource like mass to all school districts critically those that serve students from families with low incomes and skins of color and thank you. >> equity is woven into all of the work we're doing in this response and something that we remain focused on including making true schools across allstate are able to access the tools and resources they need. we gave $10 billion for the american rescue plan for schools to be able to set up their funding programs and we are also testing programs and we have also made it possible drops right and testing where regional
hubs with the schools can contract directly with labs to run their programs for them was designed for schools it might not otherwise have the resources to make and manage a testing program in their own, making test available federally qualified visitors rural testing centers we do that with mask as well earlier in the year. >> thank you dr. rochelle walensky. >> so i'll pick up in there so hard i got program and increase community access to testing program does like the test in they pharmacies and social bond ability industries that are hired by design have qualified healthcare community centers as a secondary mission we also continue to support the screening test at no cost, childcare centers - 12 schools, get settings from the programs
mentioned and operation expanded testing and we prioritize the schools and have high social vulnerability we have now it's active where you can enroll.oo >> thank you. >> nthis is for dr. janet woodcock and mcconnell, is my understanding that prior to omicron, barnett informed therapeutic many factors that but no longer be supporting additional work on new therapies because no longer unmet needs which may impact how fda prioritizes these therapies and did barnett and fda change course of this policy once the omicron variant was discovered in november. >> marta's decision and put that notification out was a lot of the fact that the therapeutics development was moved over to operation speeded part of the supporting the therapies being
developed through the warp speed efforts with the way of combining if the funding was available to be able to move the therapy through pastor barnett never stop supporting everywhere, dr. janet woodcock. >> we still regard, the extreme unmet medical need or therapeutics and most stages that the disease particularly late stages where we still do not have interventions and people are going in the late stages of the disease, and on icu employee on the ventilator, we have 670 - three health and the protocols ongoing it to my knowledge so that is a robust development still ongoing in the therapeutic area. >> so, much funding has marta allocated. >> for the therapeutics is your hunches left to spend.
>> i have to go back on the actual development, a lot of funds on the betrayer meant the therapeutics already been developed. >> i'm talking about the development so there iss a ldverbally got there that he wet to the industry and they said, supporting this anymore and they didn't say moved over to operation corp. speed which by the way does not exist anymore butn' they said that we are not supporting therapeutics because there's not an unmet need, that's with the industry heard, and i would love for you to clarify that for me in the last thing since we did discuss the point-of-care and at home testing dr. janet woodcock, just not come up with a chart that fda put out not long ago, so let me just coming probably familir with it, molecular and the other
is serology and for the molecular and antigenic, if you test yes for point of or at home, they can get you the right in the next box, is high manufacturing capacity and if the answer is no there, it kicks you down to the fda intends to decline box and there's no option, so if you're not a high manufacturing test, and fda will decline to review. i gotta tell you, this is a huge mistake i think and now if you tell me that you have a couple of hundred tests that fall into the high manufacturing capacity rhino at the fda, or you have the luxury of being able to kick out new innovative companies that have notow sell their manufacturing yes, by all means,
tell me that's the case if you are a couple of right now, there struggling to buy 500 million t tests where 47, maybe 50 million fair, that leaves another 450 million to purchase. i'm going new distributors to try to buy their inventory, not the manufacture trend by the capacity and something is not right here guys, on w the testi. i will tell you, the administration's chief of staff got it right in 2020, and in march and he said the testing is broken and this broken testing is broken testing is broken i would just say, the testing is broken and i think the responsibility falls to the law that if in the case of cici, they would delay to begin with, but to acquire the testing, the falls in your lane and i for the
life of me, cannot figure out after any $2 million, except for somebody sitting down and saying, we just don't need those tests, we do not need to buy them, how you could let's have it close to lines because there was no business, these are some of the most premier manufacturers in the world that we have let's get out of the mass manufacturing of home testingr business. if i am wrong, i respect all four of you in a huge way but i also express my disapproval quickly and that is what i'm doing today anything you would like to add to that statement please and thank you, let me just clarify of course the initial contractors that you are speaking out towards the 500 million more available inventory that we distributors contracts on the manufacturer contracts are currently being and you will see that capacity,
quickly just have not been able in the contract to draw them up as quickly as the distributors that they have come in to have my suggestion in the future, is that when you guys huddle inside of the covid-19 team, try to get the administration to refrain from making proclamations until we have a props until we know who we are negotiating with, we are now three weeks is the president said that we are going to buy 500 million tests, 50 million currently contracting and i don't know how long it will take to get the rest of the contract, this is not similar to when we went out and said were going to booster everybody in america we rolled it out but just people over 60 to start with and then we started moving down. now are begging people to get boosted if we just we should been a day one because we have the product available. listen, you guys have a tough
job and i don't know of anything else congress can do than tryn o create the statutory framework that you can working to do your job which exists or provide the funding to allow you to acquire, those are the only two things we can do other than vincent) it doesn't happen as quickly ass we would like but tony i really respect you and i'm sorry what you are going through but please understand, we go through that every time we go home with millions of people in carolina and millions that believe that information that is out there, millions of people that have a loved one in the hospital but there's no monoclonal form to take, millions of people who are unvaccinated probably wish today they had gotten vaccinated will he would think that god stated that there now in the icu and their wife or husband or daughter is calling us this day, when weis do so we are here to support.
what you need, tell us but do not think there were just going to sit here and print money without a full accountability where it has been on. i hope thesi secretary is listening to the conversation today, give us a call it potted accounting of the $82 billion we will entertain additional funding for testing that was ten days ago and i'm not sure when we will get it or if we will get it but is conditional and this is the most powerful person on the other side of the appropriations and i think she knows i am serious on this one, there has got i to be accountability for the money and with the spending and thank you for being here. >> thank you and i want to thank and truly think all of our witnesses today, dr. rochelle walensky, dr. anthony fauci, dr. janet woodcock, the secretary, the although this is a very difficult and challenging and
changing time they've all been through it for a long time and i think that you do understand the frustrations ensure you all evidence well we only find solutions and we want to be able toll provide this thank you so much for answering all of our questions and it's extremely important conversation about that. the new covid-19. when the next one is about the path forward for pandemic response we really do appreciate all the work that you and all of your people and your agencies do so for any senators who have additional questions, for the record theyy will be doing ten business days, at 5:00 p.m. on the 25th of january and this committee stands adjourned.
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