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>> you can watch the full conversation anytime as >> follow american history tv on twitter, facebook and youtube for scheduled updates about about what happened this day in history watch videos and learn more about the people and events that have shaped the american story. find a set e c-span history. >> now our moderator for today's discussion braden is the director of methodology and practiceat at the international coalition of sites of conscious a global network of historic sites, museums and memory initiatives that connect past to present changing the world one memory at a time. as part of his efforts braden has trained hundreds of organizations in dialogue, community engagement, planning and operating at the ointersection of history and
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justice. >> thank you marcia, hello everyone my name is braden paynter of the methodology practice at sites of conscience. the coalition is a network ofor museums, historic sites, places of memory more than 330 sites in more than 65 countries around the world. we regularly see communities around the globe thinking about how to use memorials as placesnd to think about the past heel in the peasant under present and move into the future. in moving to building just inhumane features. it's exciting to talk to you all today and hearing from folks who are doing this really important work at a number of memorials around the united states. were lucky enough to be joined by stephen clark superintendent
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of the national park of western pennsylvania which creates oversight of the 93 national memorial. , james laychak, tran14 executive director of the law enforcement memorial and her wonderful host today and amy weinstein oral history and vice president off collections. the national september 11 memorial museum. welcome everybody thank you for being with us today. >> thank you. >> may be to get us started as we think about the roles that memorials comply in our communities lives if we could set the table little bit where each of your memorials came from. would you tell people a little bit about how your memorial was created, who created it, what their hopes were for it into they had in mind as they were
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creating this. >> pat would you get started? >> absolutely i would love to. the most beautiful spot in the world to me national law enforcement officers located in washington, d.c. in 1984 between 1988, congressman biaggi and craig floyd went on an effort to try to make the national officers memorial a reality. so they did so in 1988. in 1991 a memorial to be reality which we see today is beauty in washington, d.c. it was made for everyone, law enforcement families that lost their loved ones, citizens that they served and protected for generations f and years faithfuy known that they can die in the line of duty, this is the most amazing place she could see when you walk through it only marker. >> the ceo marcia, she said how are you feeling i said i feel
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honored and powerful feelings of contributions yet to be told because each and every one of those holes on that wall was there because they chose the profession and chose to be there for the call of duty. no one chooses to die but it's a possibility and a memorial service to recognize them not annually not every day, that's what we choose to do at the memorial we've grown to a museum ourto officers safe. the person who created i would be maurice not to say davis buckley his beauty is not displayed we see his hard work. our wall is growing because each and every year our officers die and unfortunately we are living memorial we said at 22611 souls officers men and women and will
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be approaching him moving forward next year again as of may of 22 and unfortunately again we will be sharing those names. thank you lord marker. >> thank you what pat just said also explaining i'll see what i can do. national september 11 memorial was as a result of an international design competition which began in early 2003, really the desire to create a memorial began within a few days after 9/11, at least in new york and around the country and around the world, people began having ideas about what might be appropriate among those people
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was michael is really for an american architect who sketched out some ideas what they are doing a memorial and delivered, as part of the process he and pepeter walker a landscape architect came together to revolve thevo design. in the memorial called reflecting absence and it reflects the absence of life in the trees reflect the growth of life in the progress of time something pat said about expanding the memorial we
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realize somebody people are dying because of 9/11 related health consequencesqu and issues of cancers and respiratory issues. we wanted to do something to honor their loss so we created a new section of the memorial and that is a bit more extract and there are no lanes as there are on the north bend and we won't know all of those names for quite a few more years to come but they have been on are delectable. for a september 11 is the date on the calendar but it is something were acutely aware of.
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>> thank you were gonna move into a round of introductions and then i hope we get to some of those responses. that is one of the values we bring together with all of you different experiences to share and build together and add something and thinking about memorialization and their own life in their own world int some way, thank you stephen. >> thank you good afternoon as the superintend of flight 93 national memorial we collectively with our partnerships and our volunteers we tell the story of united airlines flight 93 with a hijacked airliner on september 11, 2001.1. the beginning of the memorial similar to amy and pat had shared it came from the ground
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up kind of a concept immediately following september 11 that one of the three attacks was going to become part of the national system a branch of the department interior. for a series of processes flight 93 became that unit of the national park system. often times the national parks it takes decades to have the research and ultimately congress and the president signed into law but remarkably in this case george w. bush played the 93 national memorial into law on september 24, 2002. just a little over a year which is unheard of flight 93 national memorial was born into a series of a tremendous partnership in many years parcels of land were
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purchased and finally for the ten year anniversary f of 2011 e plaza the world remains the sacred bound and it was created to dedicated in 2015 which is the learning center in the visitor center and finally the image behind me is a tower of voices dedicated in september 2018 that's almost ten stories, 93 for high tower containing 40 windchimes each of which way 2 - 3 hundred pounds driven by pennsylvania wind. being a national memorial similar to oak loma city and uss arizona and somebody with the national park service we stand a very proud along with jim and the pentagon memorial and amy and allison all of her colleagues in new york and
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certainly as a law enforcement officer for the national park servicel at 29 years before i came into the superintendent six years ago it had lost a dear friend in the line of duty state troopers and law enforcement rangers who were on that as mentioned in nothing but the utmost respect for what pat and his team do and police work means so much to me and so many and once again it is an honor to be part of this panel. >> thank you i think for a lot of folks who are listening and the folks onhe the panel you are saying this is personal,ay professional and an individual lives and also in the larger view you are taking to your work, thank you for being able to walk both sides of that. >> thank you everybody and thank
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you for allowing me too participate in this. i lost my brother dave and the pentagonda denied 11. that is essentially how i got involved with the creation of the pentagon world and the memorial fund which is a nonprofit that i now serve as executive director but many similar to the new york memorial that works very closely to the department of defense because the family members all thought the memorial needed to be there heon the ground at the pentagon it's a little bit of a different situation but we work very the pentagon there was a design competition that started shortly after the attack this is probably november where a group of families got together and asked to steer community members and families and there is an international design
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competition with the new york museum and basically they had these designs or ideas were posters at the national building museum in washington, d.c. and you can imagine going through room after room of these designs that were submitted from 66 different countries around the world and are really unbelievable to see these designs. we went through process to narrow down the design and we selected five or six i think six and came up with a model or concept design and the jury met again consisted of family members and myself and another woman lost her father with the design competition committee the former secretary of defense, artist and architects from aroundd the world and around the
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country to participate and facilitated by a woman. caroln anderson the u.s. army of corps of engineers it was an interesting process to follow but we came up with the design that was submitted by a couple from new york and essentially a memorial unit for each person that died and arranged according to the age lines of the victims. starting with a 3-year-old little girl on flight 77 all the way up to 71-year-old john he was also on the flight of retired navy and i described it as an individual memorial collective memorial and it tells a story of what happened that day in each memorial unit is arranged according to the age that the victim was born my brother was born in 1961 and his
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memorial is on 1961 age line with all the other people who were born that year, each memorial has a different directionality based on it was a plane or a building when i read the name at the end of this bench and it's over a pool of water i will see my brothers name but i also see the pentagon in the background. for someone who is on the plane the orientation is reversed. i read the name and i'll see that in the background. in the age lines are oriented according the flight with the plane into the building at the subtle way as you walk into the park the benches and water and trees around the outside your oriented to where the plane came to the building. >> the pentagon was rebuilt in a year but is still important for family members to be able to see
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them visitors to see where that plane hit the building. we had to design to the pentagon memorial fund with a nonprofit created and worked with the department of defense to raise the money to design d and build thee pentagon memorial and we were dedicated of september of 2008 it was the first of 9/11 memorials in this country. and i remember talking about what the family members wanted and we wanted people to remember ourmb loved ones and we wanted people to remember what happened that day and we want people to remember the feeling of unity thatun came through and swept hr country after 9/11 and bringing together people to comfort all of those who are in such pain. with the memorial has stood up
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and is still tracks a lot of visitors because it's on the ground at the pentagon it's been closed over concerns of covid because there is no way to regulate visitors into the memorial there is concern that groups of visitors can gather together. it's a well visited memorial is probably over 1 million visitors that come every year once it's open and about w three-quarter f them. our next focus is to create a visit education center close to the memorial to complement the memorial because there is a whole generationn of children ad kids growing up to have no memory of 9/11. they don't remember the horror and audacity of flying planes into buildings as missiles and will happen that day. our focus now is to build a
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visitor education center into build the generations that are growing up with no memory ofenh 9/11 like we all have experienced. i appreciate the time and look forward to the discussion. >> thank you and thank you everyone for level set on where you're coming from. that's a great jumping off point to some of this conversation and what all of you have mentioned change in a number of ways. sometimes only think about memorials and if you create memorials and really permanent materials marble, granite and steel and we think there are unchanging objects but each of you has talked about in some way the area around it in their
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growing and changing and being added to. if you think over the course of the life of your memorial so far what have been the biggest changes in how it's been used or experienced by visitors? >> i go first if that's okay. i'm not going to answer question 100% directly but you made me think of something, yes we are stone and metal with the water in the trees are softer and more organic their living breathing part of the memorial. it is interesting that he said
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memorials have built to be solid and to be unchanging but people change them we knew family members and friendsam who visitd might want to leave flowers or small tokens but we did not anticipate that people would do things like use scotch tape toth make sure that the tribute would stay. we had to involve ways and it's very important because it was important to the vision that every visitor in the morning experiences it as well as the first day in the first time with no flowers left from the previous day. that is another maybe not change over time but change as part of the memorial people, leaving
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american flag and pilots and flight attendants, people leave notes and memorial cards or mass cards in addition to flowers or people also leave highly personal items ballet slippers, beach sand were the first tributes on the memorial and we had to scramble a little to make sure they understood for whom they were left and make sure to save them with the appropriate inflammation. i think the memorial is the same every day but it's new every day but i think the water in the past few years could see the
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trees grow they were skinny little things when we first planted them and they've grown upward and outward's and they make a real difference to the life on the plaza i would say. >> go ahead amy i'm sorry. >> i just want to say the privilege of visiting i think i first visited flight 93 may be in 2007 so i've seen that grow and i first heard about the tower of voices behind you on that visit and i've been waiting ever since to see that. i've been back several times but not since it was completed and
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all the elements that weree added. i'm so looking forward to another opportunity to hear that and visit again. >> thank you amy i share for those viewing this particular panel, after the panel if you go to earth and type in tower of voices, you can actually view and listen to the tower 24/7 and since we dedicated in 2018 we had over 3 million views, really a beautiful part of the memorial but i was going to add something that you said triggered me with the brick-and-mortar of the law enforcement memorial in the incredible at the pentagon and
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certainly the elements have that element of brick-and-mortar. another part that is overlooked is art natural limit. when flight 93 plummeted into the earth and went into a an abandoned strip mine it was a very scarred landscape. over time the original design with paul murdoch from los angeles also a design competition. part of the design was 150,000 seedlings. about eight years ago we started reforestation planet tria flight 93. in the seedlings which are over ten or 12 feet high it's pretty cool and jim and pat and amy were writing about 132,000 we will reach our goal totally
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dependent next april and we'd love to have a group of volunteers from the respective memorials come help us celebrate the milestone turning the scarred landscape into the beauty that we see today at the great memorials to calmly april. if you put in your notebooks there during this for a day or two. >> we will take you guys up on it. >> my birthday is in april i'm definitely coming. >> i'm april 9. >> if i may add a piece when you talk about brick-and-mortar and earlier someone asked me how you feel when you walk through a powerful feeling of this wall is the importance of when we had to expand, how would that look what with that view look like another
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process in washington, d.c. is easier than anywhere else in the commission of fine arts and only areas that are so important. we want to make sure that this memorial look like it grew rather r than expanded and in a way that you would look at it and it looks natural and had to look so unnatural people would ask more questions and they wouldn't have the feeling in the emotion that we all want our visitors to have they leave these belongings and personal notes. they want to make sure they don't take that away, and fortunately we had a living memorial on service 9/11 as 300 names of post 9/11 because of cancer and 72 on the on-site when we engraved in the following year. but the importance we are evolving since the world has evolved and change and people
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who responded have made our lives easier and more possible in their sacrifice now. we don't know with covid we saw covid as beating leading law enforcement concern we saw 302 date, 177 are covid related, 46 our traffic and 46 or gunfire and then we have 31 that are other if you take a look at those numbers you're taking a look increases, what is going on we have to think how do we adopt. when you set a question early i won't take much time but you said who does the impact. i think they have to impact everyone because is not meant to be a private thing is not meant to be for one group or one person or one thing. if it does you've not made what do you think you should've made.
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that is the beauty of art in order to someone feel and express themselves in the way that they feel necessary to honor those who have honored them in whatever capacity it may be w whether an officer, a mom, aunt, brother or sister it could be any capacity as long as they could honor faithfully and responsibly. thank you. >> a great conversation i got me thinking about a couple of things that i wanted to share as things changee over time. the first tree that we've planted at the memorial this is feedback from the s family membs don't make 184 trees with my luck the tree representing, one will die. the idea was to have trees to make itt more parklike but not o make it one-for-one reference. it was interesting the first trees that they wanted to put in
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for japanese maples and those did not do well at all because we discovered millions they need to be where there's a canopy but there's no canopy next to the pentagon those died and we ended up putting in myrtles those have flourished. it's interesting to see as you drive by or walk through how the plant life in the visitation has made it a very special place is next to the pentagon and the tmajor abolishment to go in the and you lose yourself in the memorial when you think about what happened in the impact but you don't hear the street noises and i remember when we were the jury they said this'll be a place hard to get to we want to make sure there is enough meeting and things to consider so people can spend
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some time there. it's really evolved into that read another story i will share the wage the memorial units are organized you have five children that were killed on flight 77 there was too little girls traveling with their parents david and zoe and three kids on a national geographic school trip with their those age lines are near the entrance of the park, you'll see five memorial units with trees scattered around and there's a big gap minutes interesting how they react to that it picks up the three kids 10 - 11 years old in the 1990 age line and it picks up with somebody who is a working age they were 22, 21 when they died so it was probablybl in the 80s when they
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were born and that's been interesting to see how people react to the fact that these were children when they first came up to those benches and then it comes up i don't like a lot ofot people recognize it waa nations military headquarters that were hit and you had five children on flight 77. >> a couple of interesting tips maybe will set aside for the landscape architect but this powerful idea between nature and natural environments in healing and the way that that can be provocative, if we had hours i would dive into it. what are the other threads and keep coming in of the number of people voices again connected to this even talking about the design competition to family and defendants and survivors to
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visitors from regionally and nationally internationally. each of these places that you care for in the stories that you think about touches a lot of people in the impact them inop different ways. i'm curious how you think about balancing all of these voices making space for all of these voices and then you choose to center on some within the larger set of people who are connected to a site. >> my microphone is offe or on all go ahead and jump in. one of the things that generated the idea of the visitor education center was the ability to share the stories and talk about ways you just mentioned in the visitor education center which are planning for now and
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the exhibit space is all about the response and the continued response. our memorial in our visitor experience about what happened that day and now he responded in the years after 9/11 the war in iraq the creation of homeland security the airplanes and all these different agencies set up overseas but how we continue to respond today almost 20 years later, it is interesting and i feel that were fortunate, our visitor experiences again about what happened that day but will happen after that and how we continue to respond that will allow us to continue to tell the stories and be relevant because you think about how much is
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happened in the 20 years that we can remind them because the 20th commemoration of all that's happened and we still continue to deal with these issues. i think it's very interesting to reflect on all that is happened a short period of time since this all happen. >> i could add we offerd interpretive guided tour of the memorial, both times i visited the pentagon memorial to have learned about it in distant people, nonetheless i was floored both times when i saw
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their names. i knew how old they were and why they were on the plane but i emotionally slipped out because they were looking for their parents names and i was looking for the dad and i knew where their names were and their age. but i started to cry i thought those little girls are with their parents. but even though there was good reason i once remembered that it did make perfect sense. i think having a interpretive tour even though all of these places flight 93 the pentagon are totally self-guided. you could totally understand a lot it is nice to have a little
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interpretation and the tourist whether it's in person or through some of our audio tours and we can learnrn a bit more about the unusual things that certain people did whether it was the man in the red bandanna was so well known or firefighters and police officers who were trapped but rescued trying to think of some of the other examples. that is another growing part of the memorial, learning from the public about what they want including teachers and school groupsps who visit. >> i'm curious the books my
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encounter that are there connected and how you think about voices that are coming cinto comp plaques with each other in the spaces that they want to remember differently and express impacts this could be descendents and family members and they have different live experiences at one of these events of the aftermath and they don't necessarily agree with each other to be connected with these spaces. >> all jumping one thinks of the visitor center is to have these discussions that you are talking about and things like that that we could have them bring people in different speakers and have some of these things that you
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bring up it changed how we look at things differently, what does that mean as it relates, these are some of the things of the genesis of the idea visitor education center, one there needs to bece interpretation for people to understand what happened because sometimes it's too hard to figure out and to talk about these things and that's what were hoping to do with the visitor education center. >> family members and synagogue leaders, i don't think they mind me sharing this but they came to flight 93 just before september 11 insuredbe entire dy we spent the entire day together
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along with the president of the families of flight 93. the objective of the visit day to want to memorialize and take special care of their loved ones who died in october 2018, 11 total and that shooting. i think that's a butte and trim beauty of memorials collectively. were all in this together. i'm sure we will continue to work with one another and help the next memorial through the trials and tribulations of the successes in new york on law enforcement memorial the pentagon we are continually evolving but one thing is for sure my day stops in their community and their family that
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something we all take tremendous pride in. one further thing our oral history program that is pride and joy in bringing together an individual through their and state trooper on scene or a firefighter from shanksville. we had 180 oral histories and we shared them with researchers in other websites and so forth but as we all know when i could be in these positions forever, working to get the next generation of our successors and these tools it will be 50 years and my cases in the forever
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business. and the experts who were able to do the oral histories and those whoh were there and that to us s a very important element just like it is for jim and pat and all the other memorials around this nation solidifying in time a piece of history and often times that's exactly what they are. they are our history and how we remember them and can talk to them is really critical to a journey. >> i couldn't agree more the memorial of an unfortunate fortune in a sense and we make sure during our viewedak individual in many names of officers that lost their lives in the previous year. in this families and civilians
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of people crossed her country and use your scene education we wanted a museum we want to go back to her stakeholders and make sure that they're being represented the best that they can and survivability for us inn the sense that were nonfederally funded. and desperately need assistance. that's not just law enforcement we would be around if it was one cultural or one group. we have to survive social media, partnerships and through donations and the ability for us to survive and for our memories to continue. i think this year in a few short days gravity candlelight vigil.
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it's going to be for two years of our surviving family over 700 names and as we celebrate the contribution. although covid we couldn't do it this past may we did not stop. that is our duty and people who want to represent our ever-changing has to resolve with what goes on around us although the 30 year in every three for the memorial is not the reason why were having it were having it so we can honor is the most powerful education can provide to anyone we can feel in your heart, your mind, your body and your soul to talk about all the memorials because they represent true hero wisdom and selfishness of all aspects
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from that child into be a part of it hopefully share with all of you and share of the future and an opportunity and do it as all of our on and representation for the best interest of all in the way that you impacted each other and personal. people have talked about education and a few moments here we were just trying to talk about this does not just living at her mind is living in the heart and the body and in the
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spirit and one of the challenges i know you tried to put really positive things into the world and tear institutions and the memorial and member yuri workers around the world face in the subject matter that were engaging in all of these things even talking about, grief and pain invokes in the virtues of immunity. and as soon as they come into positive the grief and pain and virtue can precious into positive reaction and harmful reactions to. and in the education of the way you construct the sites and how you help people come into contact with these things and find their way towards
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responsive positive towards themselves and towards other people. >> i tried to tackle that i'm a historian and not an educator by training. i'm giving you my sense of what educators do. i think things are very important for educators. people of all ages find themselves and responders were perhaps the k-9 to be part of the still searching rescue and
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diversity in people for more than 90 nations and people from 90 countries it wasn't just americans or new yorkers and visitors from all over are part of the story. i know they tried to use the word combat but i can think of a better one to provide accurate information so children can learn to distinguish between conspiracy theories grounded in thin air and actual reality, history from the people who were there or studying and what
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happened integrate assign a phobia. >> i would say those are things that we educators tried to touch on that is the job of the museum to interpret to educate the memorial is more about the people in more than 90 countries with 3000 people. >> i went educate on the education element whether our ambassadors in new york and the pentagon is known and the fact is these men and women many who
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have been here over 20 years literally since day one, they come here from an ongoing basis to try and bring a smile or a warm heart as a greeting and often times not having to say anything but having the visitor know that they are there and we cannot do what we do without our ambassador more than 10000 hours a year in shanksville, it is remarkable whatever volunteers do with that being said we also have instituted in distance programs, covid has been challenging in so many ways, one of the bright spots it forced us to look at the technology element and we have been doing webinars and so forth.
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we reached over 350,000 students across the united states with the technology i can do an excel spreadsheet, there is a lot of the young kids that can and they are able to bring these programs to vfw, american legion, senior centers, high schools all over the united states and i'm very proud next you really go to israel and germany andxt new zealand and bring these programs to those in other countries is not just like 93 we talk about the nation and the other sites and we have things about courage and doing the right thing and patriotism whether the fourth grade, 11th grade 1 or whomever
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when we hang that up it's our hope they have perspective with themselves and with the righted them into the left of them about being a better person and better stewards of this great nation and the flag that we honor sond greatly. >> i was going to comment on what amy said about combating conspiracy in the no islamic phobia we've been pushing out a social media campaign and we had to get the responses to social media how can he raise money for event that did not happen, were trying to do something a myth versus reality there are no parts of flight 77 that were found rude were showing pictures, here goes it's right outside of the building.
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, people can actually see the buildings it, they didn't see hit the pentagon so quickly and there was cameras in the field. and strange to think that it didn't happen. as islamic phobia, i remember being interviewed a year ago they asked me do you hate muslims and i would say i didn't hate muslims i'd hate terrorist. i grew up in a military family and we spent time into ron in the 70s my dad was stationed and i remember my mom saying you can respect different cultures and except that and i think one
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of the stories what's not told his flight 77 playing came through the building 50 or 60 feet away from a nondenominational chapel at the pentagon where services are held almost daily but more importantly every friday there is an islamic prayer service held their because there are muslims who serve in our military and chaplains that attend to their needs, the stories and combating some of the ideas that is the importance of the visitor education centerr
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to keep out some of the stories to, some of these things. >> you have talked about being in the forever business. you talked about how society continues to change around us. i know we looked in the past and the present little bit and if we think for a moment about the future that lies ahead of us all, it's how we'll keep evolving in our relationship to past events that will always change and remain and important just the other day in a small memorial to the battleship i was thinking about how different my experience of that memorial would be from somebody from 1900 and these things change over time. if you think about the future of your memorial you talked about building a few buildings and wanting to start some new programs and you see beyond that how do you envision the memorials needing to grow over
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the next couple of years or decades. >> where you see the growth coming for these? >> i may just say from the memorial perspective we need to hit all voices and all ears whether it's her social media, education, we should not have any barriers on communication. that should be a high point . . . shown that when you have people in areas of social media to provide those resources but when you'd do things like our event and memorials how are we able to bring everyone and and when i say everyone touching everyone. we share with everyone and that's why you want social media. we want to make sure it's in we want to make sure it's in the classrooms. we wanted people to see it in
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the museum. we want of all of those things, to just work together. and as we have with our new ceo, she very clearly created three pillars of our organizatione. the foundation being a memorial you have the sacrifice, the remembrance, the honor and commitment of the officers stories continue on into the museum. then on the third pillar, the education portion and that is where we tried to do officer safety and wellness, zero programs enhancing our social media outreach practices programs for law enforcement. this is all done without federal funding. grants were certain things were able to achieve for these programs. but for over all memorial is not federally funded. we have to figure out ways to be able to reach everyone or it's not so easy to say for one core group, this is what
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we do and the message goes out immediately. we have to think beyond that, outside the box is everybody what they are my teachers would say to you, think outside the box, patrick. we have to think outside the box for us all to be able to make that adaptation. we are in many ways very strong things are concrete, stone, steel. but our beauty is our ability to adapt to our social needs and being able to socialize our stakeholders into that environment. it is our world and have them see it from afar when theyor cannot reach it they can see it from a classroom to learn the historical aspect. and as they can see it during a time it's a stakeholders for police week was issued for the sacrifices of what they do each and every day and willingly do. that is the story when you look at it from a memorials perspective on how were going to move forward.
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with community, transparent, open with honor and powerful statements of what our mcontributions and stories are specifically regarding a memorial and museum you see sesteven and jim powerful their stores will be easily shared and told as long as we have the ability to share amongst all of those. i'm talking about the media too. we not just have to ask for them they should naturally be involved in wanting to know it's going on our world each and every day as we share the most important part that is the remembrance of what historical contributions these folks have given. >> thank you. >> i just wanted to share, september 24 is a very big day for this site for two reasons. number one today september 24, 2001 the day the fbi turned over the to the
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corner and the law enforcement community it is also the day in 2002 that george w. bush as i mentioned to sign this memorial into law. september 24, just a few weeks ago what we did was be brought back was sent out an invitation nationwide to every single first responder who was a flight 93 between september 11, 2001 and september 24, 2001. and i am happy to say we had about 130 individuals, many of whom flew in from the west coast, from texas we had retired state troopers we had retired fbi agents, red cross, firefighters, the mortuary group that came in as well as to fbi chaplains of the pittsburgh division who were there in 2001 and were still on the job. and a few family members. we brought together as a cop
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have to have a name for every operation with thank you 94. it was a beautiful, beautiful event on friday afternoon and culminated with the family members inviting all 130 of those individuals to the crash site to the rock itself to the boulder and lead in prayer and moments of silence it again was for all 2977 lives are lost that day. very, very powerful, powerful afternoon and thanks to our group that culminated at the local american legion where individuals were able to lead the memorial and go have a beer and a cheeseburger and roast beef sandwich. has not been back and had not seen so many colleagues that meant so much of them. so i just wanted to share that again my connection to law
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enforcement is profound and again honoring these men and women in law enforcement, we do it every day. we invite game commission troopers, law enforcement, dea to train here kind of in the back 40 so too speak with canines or whatever it may be. and again it's who i am it's who i will always be. and again having been to the memorial the law enforcement memorial several times and being so closely affiliated with the mall and u.s. park police and others. it again is such an honor to bebe a part of this and hear from jim, amy, and these other places of remembrance, that means so much to not only the united states but to so many around the world. >> i was just going to say
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were kind of thinking about something that was said all voices, all gears you talk about the memorial is going to be there. but what changes is the discussions you have with visitors. i think that's what we are trying to at the visitor education center to continue to be able to evolve and meet the needs of different groups but i think down the road discussions. tait's asking the hard questions it's talking about 911, what happened and it 20 years later 30 years later, 50 years later i think we need to be prepared to continue to evolve and have discussions and serve the needs of the generations that are growing up after 911. i think that's going to be an important part of the education center and the programs that will continue. >> i don't know what that's going to look like we just don't know what the needs are
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going to be ten or 15 years from now. it is important to be applicable. these programs that supports the needs of our future visitors the memorial will be there but how we look back that is what i hope for. >> that is why we continue for objects and oral histories. we are far from finished there are so many -- we have acquired so much but there are so many more stories to learn about new perspectives, to hear from, to hear about and the objects that survivors have save the 20 year mark i think some people ought to let
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go of some of what they have been holding whether it is a survivors dress, or sneakers, and the voices and the impact of covid it. the impact of what has been happening in afghanistan, the world keeps being the world. there are connections between the attack of 911 and other attacks around the world. the connections are not literal in terms of ideology in terms of who did it and why. the notion of terrorism is what binds it terrorism and memories and binds us all together. >> thank you all. we have many, many more things
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to talk about but our time together is coming to thehe end. so one last question for everybody as we think one more time about the folks who are listening today whatever that today may be for them. as you think about the folks who may t have been able to come or may not have yet they will get there sometime in the future. what is the one thing an action of mindset, of perspective the value from your memorial you would hope they would take awayou with them and live with for the next however many days? >> they would take from that memorial, do, hold, live going forward. >> jumped right in. that responsibility and
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respect and share how impactful that is that someone would give their life for me and do that willingly and people are out there still doingo that. that is what i want people to realize that impaction's you have to feel that. if they feel that they can understand true emotion of the 22611 on the east and west. >> i would say something very similar the first word you said was honor. that is the exact same word that came to my mind is that honor the sacrifice of those that died on 911. those on the airplanes, those inside the buildings including
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the pentagon and the world trade center buildings. but also those who are dying each and every day both from suicide as well as the ramifications from the medical complications and the disease that is now coming. it is a plague for so many first responders at all three attack sites. i can assure you of that. i think that is where collectively as a group we remember those that died that day. but also we continue to honor our first responders. i think our law enforcement officers lead us more than they ever have. to say thank you, go up and shake a hand. just let them know we appreciate what they do. the firstrs responders, the emts we could go on. that is white flight i think
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all memorials that were here discussing today that is what we do each and every day is a bring those people memories alive. at the same time letting folks know to appreciate those who help us in the biggest time of need. to me that is what we try to do. >> i would say i agree with everything that pat and steve said and i would just add this. when i walked todd the memorial we are all, brothers, sisters, moms, dads, nieces, nephews look at the cross-section of people who died we are more alike than we are different. i think to me that is the message i have stayed with.
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as we look forward to ski when i do not know how to answer that question. it's just done differently. i do agree with what everyone has said. i think one of the most important things as an oral historian, ms. hout, passion, how being compassionate was such an element of the response in the response starting on those claims and inside the buildings the moment of the terrorist action began. the care and the compassion,
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and courage and a bravery. but i will just say it compassion the flighttt attendants felt for their passengers who they felt responsible for. how the people inside the towers held the door for each other, helped each other down the stairs. the kids and families in canada who made apple pies and arranged to truck them to new york across the border are in iowa who set about to make a quilt for every single 911 family member. i think that is the underlying theme is the compassion that saw the light of day on september 11 and after words. >> thank you for those and


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