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>> will, to the about books podcast and we will talk about longtime new york editor and look at that notable books and also talked to pamela paul h abt her most recent book, 100 things that we have lost to the internet and it's hard with this week's publishing industry news. formal brothers, former governor andrew cuomo was told to turn over his recent book h proceedso the new york state attorney general's office, multiple reports so that he can use state resources to produce the book, megan crisis leadership lessons from the covid-19 pandemic it is estimated that the proceeds amount to about $5 million in another book/cuomo news, announcing that they will not
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publish a forthcoming book a former cnn house, who is planned for 2022, the book was entitled denial and is going to be a look at the trump administration and the covid-19 pandemic rated cnn terminated mr. cuomo earlier in december for his involvement and public relation efforts to assist his brother in sexual harassment and assault allegations. and now another news, best-selling novelist, died at the age of 80 ms. rice was the author of over 30 books, she thought about 150 million copies internationally, and of course she's best known for her 1976, novel, interview with the vampire, that was later adapted into a movie and also in the news, author claims that the recipient of the macarthur - and
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1000 micro libraries in prisons across the country, and he was in prison for nine years, for a carjacking when he was 16, the first of these libraries that had planned, were malcom x occupied in the 1940s, the north folk prison in massachusetts read and according to mtv bookscan, not just a uslittle bit, for the week endig december 4th, adult nonfiction film for a second second consecutive week, just open 2 percent are men up close at 6 percent for the year. and just a reminder during the annual holiday period, about one quarter of all books, the nurse told and 750 million books were sold in the united states, in 2020. one of the new books in 2021, is this one, 100 things that we have lost to the internet and the author is pamela paul and
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she is joining us now on about books and she is a longtime editor in the new york times book review, pamela paul, your book, is this a remit. >> it is and it's a complaint in a love letter and i think it's a call to action if i can use that somewhat annoying phrase, it is a reminder really of what used to be like before the internet and before we constantly living kind of a very rapid fast forward thank you so causing all of usnk a little bit of cognitie and emotional whiplash. and this is a reminder looking back and saying, do you all of these little things we used to do before we were online all of the time and remember how we usednd to get me people and what it meant to know someone as opposed to fire and hire somebody so is really this kind
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of a look back at the cataloging of all of those things from the before time. >> owners some of those things as you write, that week achingly miss. >> i think it is different for everyone, some of the things that i achingly miss, i do achingly miss lots of things, like thes local newspapers they used to be n really important to democracy and when it comes to books, for book offers a means that you get more than maybe two or three or four book reviews in your home country but instead you get you know 30 or 40 because all of this local newspapers used to have bucket critics and editors that they no longer do so remarkable thing that i remember, and i imagine some of the audience here, the aches and times and some of them are particular to me, i miss for example, probably a lot of
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people miss this but i will say, to be in one place, at one time without the feelings that there was a horde of people, and the notifications and likes and texts and e-mails, and from all different places there all the right in my pocket enzymes if you like my attention span is constantly fragmented and i am in a block of all to say that okay, just open it, what was i doing. then i forget what i was doing. >> and it does take discipline to read the new york times quickly. >> i think that is a little bit harder for all of us to focus and i do think our attention span, and another thing that is lost his patients and so we have
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gotten used to lots of things that takes our attention and so, is getting into quickly and then something tends to go on the runway to get going and we often this patient because we have become acclimated it and situated and maybe in some cases addicted to her something that will take another three seconds and other than a full print newspaper. >> the book review celebrated its 11205th anniversary this year, you been the editor since 2013, and since 2013, what are some of the major changes that you have gone through. >> a lot of things have happened it at the book review that is changed it potentially, in the book review of course is fundamentally thing, we review the best of the books that are coming o out, we review the ente
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landscape of books, most of these organizations say the books and what we do is we actually have a full staff and its time and labor intensive through all the books out there and then determine which ones deserve the courage and that is the way in which we can discover voices that might not be the obvious ones and it pays off when for example someone like the nobel prize and everybody else, when the book review reviewed six of his books over the course of his career. so that fundamentally has not changed and everything else pretty much house pretty and speaking of the internet obviously everything that we do is mindful of the fact that most people might be coming to us really separate from everything else that we do so when we were
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back in the world of print, these will be delivered in one fail swoop as it still is in the book review butk now online, we doing things that people plaintiff come upon on social media research and we are really more mindful of that larger audience than we are also part of a larger desk now is how we refer to it in the new york times were we also are together in conjunction with the critics for the new yorker times as well as the features reporting in the industry reporting on the books on the new york times we are altogether, it's a well staffed smart group of book people who are the people. that is the biggest change in terms of how we operate. >> a couple of years ago book tv to the tour of the new york times book review section at the new yorkhe times office and you can watch, you can simply search
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pamela paul at booktv.org and back to yourr book, 100 things that we have lost to the internet, this is a quote from your book pretty and you are either not lie or you are the enemy in the world of enforced popular opinions, risks saying something that falls into the muddy metal and something that may lead to - from all corners in both known and disgustingly anonymous head it looks like you're speaking up and speaking out and most opinions are relentlessly held in check by the crowded we all say that is safe and what were you driving at. >> so that is not shepherd hundred chapter called unpopular opinion and something that is gone pretty early's really difficult to have certainly online and you are a lot of people in conversation say that i can never say this publicly or please don't tell anyone.
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what happens is when you're constantly under scrutiny in what you say and write, it tended too be more guarded and that's not natural and one of the other things that the uninhibited mess and this turned us all into reality tv stars insofar as raucously being observed and judged and documented and that makes us as taking the kind of risk take if you were not in that kind of setting it and it will bring it down to ao very granular level for young people because i think that it is shaping the way english people develop and kids develop and thinkers and individuals and so many schools for example, now they are working with google or share doc and the means that you are not alone, you're developing your
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thoughts and developing as a person, and who are instead online and share doc and under the name of collaborative learning and perhaps there is some truth to that but there's also a lot of marketing and lagos to selling these programs and computers to school but what it means is that all the kids and team of four kids who are collaborating on an essay, it means that none tends to develop your own ideas and you are in there with let's say, of the kids in the classroom and someone who is competitive with you personally and so there'll commenting and reacting your time that means that you might not write the m same way that yu would if you were all alone in that room with a pen and paper this is really shaping the fact that because i'm subject to
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other people's opinions and and is chipping away in which we express ourselves to make another thing we lost the internet, "100 things we've lost to the internet" and, the appearance of meetings and spellings and casual use is accelerating it the more formal languages where there is a way. >> obviously in the way out, but with regarding anrs online writing. >> where is the, where is the,. >> functionally into punctuation, it is very fussy to punctuate and capitalize letters and to use appear it is to all of that in that space and i think a lot of us as become this way in writing even people who are old and who are post- digital who are on the internet
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with those who have already learned how to write and if you write an e-mail, thank you and end with a period, and you said it and if you got an e-mail, with thatot means is that is a god, really, does not feel genuine and does not feel - unless you ended with an exclamation point and ill think it's hard for us to learn as writers, to be very sparing as you use these acclamation point and it's only when you're ready online that is you have to be really careful. >> we are talking about books with pamela paul in every year the new york times list their top books and how the word is reckoning with the history of slavery the cottage and across america. >> so this is interesting in
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format, and looking at kind of this very telling, oral history in many ways about how the storiesow are told about her pat and primarily at race and he goes to a number of different locations in the u.s. but also in africa that in some ways, tell the story cover nations past and different plantations which are operated in perfect and very different ways and it goes to new york city which many people don't think of when they think about slavery talk about the way in which slavery took place in the city and no way that is represented now that a lot of what he is looking at a guinness how do we tell the stories and who tells the stories and how do we tell the story and how do our stories get told. >> andrea, child poverty and
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hope in an american city, that is another best nonfiction book and 2021 according to the near times. >> so culligan might choose opposer prize-winning reporter of the>> time and she did a sers on our young woman who was 11 years old and she was experiencing homelessness with herel family in new york city ad honoraria used her story to really illustrate just are and how difficult it is to you by and arsenate weather assist one or another one in this country in a way in which are institution structured and then send narrative story about she and her family and larger story about how they best serve the population. >> so average in the right something, he seems to - in her most recent. >> so this is a short but she
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modeled it on the writing of james baldwin and i think if you be there seen that in the book or it is about a relatively new holiday for many people but in texas where gordon brief grew up in just a story on the celebration which celebrate the end of slavery and specifically in arrived and that has subsequently become popular outside of texas, so it is about not holiday her feelings were the holiday and the celebration of also her experiences going up and as a black child who ended up going to a partially white school and about her own experiences in the education opportunity but about this book, it is really a story, is the story of how we tell is a
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historian and with responsibility as an former history major in college, how really say that she really focuses on the truth about history it is something that you cannot say really well you have to research and look at the facts until the story that the facts show and not the story that you wish the facts showed and they would be told the stories that we tend to change to serve a political purpose and so i felt like it was a really very beautiful explanation of the art of history. >> have you ever had professor gordon read on your product and cut podcast. >> yes and we talk about this book and she's great. >> and she was book tv's in depth guest last june and during that interview, we learned that
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in elementary school in her hometown, in texas has been named after her to ♪ ♪ powell. >> that was kind of anything, other parts book, what was it that it attracted you. >> so this is about a dozen pages and i can't remember, is a little more or little bit less so they think that for those who know she's a poet and fiction writer and she's in her early 30s, most people know that she died by suicide you think well, i'm the possibly be, biography about such a short-lived and what really surprised editors at the book review is that she had her car, pulls. it off and she makes the case why is important and this not one of her pieces that focuses on every single sweater somebody else house, but it really uses that space to
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explain what she did to defend her standing as an artist in her own rights and also to really look at her within the context of her time and in effect the people must know about her is thatd she is often thought of in the relationship in which she really stands on her own. >> and finally the new york times best nonfiction books, the 2021, the copenhagen trilogy. >> , you quickly, tina donnelly and michael goldman, it was written in danish and quite a riwhile ago now translated into english and published yesterday books but it is actually i'm sorry it published in one of but
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is actually three books. i was really surprised by how magnetic it in original the writings of the voice is and this person isic so vibrantly alive and very famous in her native country. but not as well known here, in the working class and sorted before the nordic ideal of a kind of a socialist paradise in scandinavia, no subject social and did not have an easy childhood and she does right a coming-of-age memoir. she really bring to back to that time where you think that this is a six -year-old is writing the ten -year-old and she is able to recapture that feeling of being young and powerless in
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the third book, you might wonder but what is the title and she becomes horrifically addicted to drugs and it happens, it's never into baseball but in this case, to somebody who gets her addicted very addicted to drugs is better struggles with that addiction and i would say taken altogether, it is also a portrait of an artist of a writer coming-of-age, and through the development and seeing the obstacles that were in wrath. >> and that was it copenhagen trilogy and pamela paul with the new york times review, book and ensure and we really appreciate you joining us on our about books podcast neuron podcast is called what. >> book review podcast. >> there you go and thank you
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for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> what we talk about a couple of the new york times looks of 2021 with pamela paul but here's a couple more. journalist reports on the occupational hazards that come with being corporate america and tech reporter, looks at the life of silicon valley and entrepreneurial in the book is called the two terrien and pulitzer prize-winning credit, thoffers his thoughts on a coldr cultural between the u.s. and europe in his book, the free world, and another new york times book of 2021, this is his book at the life german chancellor, angle of merkel and hacolumbia university professor, john reporter, and race in america and woke racism and he
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recently discussed his book during a virtual events hosted by the common wealth, in san francisco, and here's a portion of that. >> this is not a lightening macbook, such as that i am not in the right wing and what it is for is really mostly people left of center who are listening to the voices from the radical left and beginning to get a feeling that somehow those people's view must be actionable as well rather than one - and on the left and i fear that because in a certain person aren now basically tells you that you are a racist, i.e. now what we thank you so a moral perverted if you disagree, very narrow under thoughts and punitive range of views and i think that what we need is left of center but constructive it and and self concerned positions on what black people been in this country. >> and he is discussing his most recent book, woke racism, notable book for 2021 near times
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and you can watch his entire program, and anytime on website, booktv.org and search his name with book title. and you are listening to and watching about books, book tvs podcast program, looking at publishing news in the latest ngnonfiction books and each week under author interview program afterwards, top nonfiction authors talk about their latestt book, with relevant guest hosts a huge miss them, we want to take a moment to list some of the notable conversations that have occurred in afterwards this past year and can watch any of these programs online at booktv.org or listen to them as a podcast, just downloaded cspan zappa, cspan now. new york times columnist charles made - african-americans to mask political power and challenge
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white supremacy, we spoke with the other encounter and president, robert wilson and then in april, and discussed her life with her late husband sundar john mccain, joining conversation at former senator who is a very close friend of the late senator in june former new york place department commissioner, talks about policing in america, and he discusses book of the profession, the former philadelphia police commissioner, charles - and his number on podcast post, argued america's progressive left, and authoritarian agenda it was push and interviewed by nationally syndicated radio talk show host, eric. and in another afterwards, that we featured this past year, was in october and it was pulitzer prize-winning journalist, talking about how u.s. companies overseas have impacted america's
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working class. she was joining conversation by the executive editor of economics hardships reporting project. and coming up this weekend and can't afterwards, his republican congressman jim jordan of ohio talking about his new book, and that he discusses the investigations of congress during his time in the house judiciary and oversight committee, and he also reflects on the trump presidency and is interviewed by former congressman from virginia and here's a preview of the conversation. >> no one would say the intent opposition that the president trump did and he did more than any president in our lifetime and he did it with everybody against him in every democrat in the sound was against him in every person was against him and and a bunch of republicans were
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against him and in spite of that, he cut taxes and he said he would and he did and he said that he would have raging economy and a dead. african-americans, all-americans wages went up and he did and kavanaugh and he said that he would put together jerusalem and he did and he said he would build the lawn they did he we can just keep going. >> and it was congressman jim jordan of ohio talking about his new bucket, and you can watch the entire interview for sunday, when afterwards errors in its entirety, all other programs are also available as podcast, youva can get them on c-span app, cspan now. and finally here's a round of some of the best-selling nonfiction books and 2021. in the biggie examines the cost
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of racism for all americans, in her book, and in the code breaker biographer isaacson looks at jennifer - who invented the dna technology and best-selling author, malcolm gladwell examines the development of precision farming during world war ii, in his book the bomber mafia and in how i saved the world, "fox news" commentator jesse waters left winged activists in their policies, then wrapping up some of the best-selling books of 2021, the washington post, bob woodward and others report in the transition between the trump and the biden administration, the book which came out this fall, was called parol pretty and all of. these authors have appeared in book tv and you canh the programs anytime in a website, both td . org and that is this week's publishing news
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and the latest nonfiction books and thank you for joining us and it about books is available as a podcast at cspan now which is our new app and get it wherever you get your podcast and happy holiday season to you and we will be back in january with a another episode of about books ♪ ♪ ♪♪ >> you are watching book tv top nonfiction books and authors every weekend and book tv television for serious readers. >> hello and well, and limit greenhouse and i'm so excited for her new book that is out and conversation now for about 45 minutes or 60 minutes and i want to start by saying that i've known linda since the late '80s when we served in the supreme court in for a long time
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