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europe combats rise in cases. the headline, nations tighten control to stem variant. countries around the world, they write, reported their first cases of the omicron variant over the weekend, and some imposed new travel restrictions racing to protect themselves against the potentially more contagious t strain even as scientists caution they don't know how severe it will prove to be.ll australia, canada, the "in depth"erlands and -- "in depth"erlands and us austria hae detected the strain first documented in south africa that authorities said could pose a greater risk of people falling ill with covid-19 a second time and could be more transmissable than other variants. dr. anthony faucid- was on the program this week with george steph stephanopoulos on abc and was asked if the strain had been detected here in the u.s. >> have we detected the omicron variant here in the united states yet?
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>> no, we have not, george, and we have a pretty good surveillance system. but as we all know, when you have a virus that has already gone to multiple countries, inevitably, it will be here. the question is will we be preparedded for it. and the preparation that that we have ongoing for what we're doing now with the delta variant just needs to be the revved up, and that's the bottom line of that, is the preparation by getting more and more people vaccinated and getting the fully vaccinated boosterred. that's what we are doing. the cdc has a good surveillance system, soou if and when -- and it's going to be when it comes here, hopefully we will be ready for it by enhancing our capabilities, vaccine, masking, all the things that we do and should be doing. >> host: our question as we open the program this morning, your concerns, what are your concerns or thoughts on the new variant, the omicron variant detected by south africa late last week?
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202-748-8ing 00 for those vaccinated and 8001 for unvaccinated viewers and listeners. this is from politico, the headline, omicron raises concerns about global vaccine equity and hesitancy. the emergence of the omicron variant in southern africa is a by-product of unheeded warnings about vaccine inequity they've said could fuel public health crises in the developing world and prolong the covid-19 pandemic. politico writes that africa remains the most undervaccinated region of the world with some 7% of its 1.3 billion people fully immunized while north america has vaccinated about 54% of its population. they also write further in that article in politico that that after waiting for supplies for months, south africa, m the epicenter of the new outbreak, now has enough doses of pfizer and johnson & johnson vaccines, but the number of people getting the shot is about 12 is 0,000
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per day -- 120,000 per day. that's less than half of the government's target of 300,000 per day. immunizations among 20 to 40-year-olds lacking making the cohort particularly variant, but some african officials are annoyed that instead of enabling global equity, western countries are slapping on travel bans. let's hear from cindy first up in norwalk, connecticut. what are your thoughts as you hear this news? >> caller: hi, good morning. >> host: good morning. >> caller: i hope y'all had a nice thanksgiving. my thoughts are i think we're panicking a little bit. you know, it's been reporting -- reported the cases are very mild. i guess it's more contagious, but the symptoms are more like a cold. so i think we need to just take a deep breath and stop panicking every second.
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i know this is a scary thing. my concern is i'm due for booster. now, do i wait until the vaccination is tweaked or just go ahead and get the booster? i'm a little confused on that, what we should do now. especiallyly if you don't want o get, you know, a bunch of shots in a short period of time. so that's my one concern -- >> host: when are you supposed to get your booster? >> caller: i'm actually due for it now. i'm six months about since my first vaccination. i gotab the j&j. so, you know, i just hi that everybody -- think that everybody, you know, it's just like panic mode. i know it's a scary thing. i mean, as far as their vaccination rates, well, they're historically hesitant. i think we should do better getting them supplies. i don't think they should be punished for this at all. they did the right thing. they came out, said, you know, hay discovered a new variant.
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but it just seems like, you know, people just really panic about this now, and for good reason. i'm not going to, you know -- but with i for one am not going to panic about it. there's a couple of doctors i listen to that say there's more repeat cases of covid in vaccinated than people who have had covid and gotten the wild virus. so i wish we would just acknowledge that a little more here in this country. as far as people who have yalready had covid. and i really do think we're at herd immunity between the vaccinated and those who have gotten covid. >> host: and we'll talk a little more about that particular topic later in the program. you talked about the vaccines. reporting this morning in "the new york times" on where they are in terms of vaccines in south africa. they write that the9 mrna vaccines in particular, moderna
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and pfizer's, were built for technology that should permit rapid modification. can adapt the current vaccine within six weeks and ship initial batches within 900 days --1 is 00 days in the event of a varian want that eludes the immune system. let's hear from oliver falls, virginia. good morning. >> caller: good morning. >> host: ago ahead. you're on the air. >> caller: okay, good morning, buddy. lli want to say good morning to everybody on c-span. i listen to you guys religiously. i believe it's one of best programs on television where you give the american people a chance to peek up and speak out -- speak up and speak out. i just wanted to say this morning as far as -- i'm vaccinated. i've gotten both of my shots. i'll be looking forward to a booster next month. and i wanted to say that the american people should be so grateful that joe biden is in
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the white house now. the trump administration lied to the american people, they fudged the numbers to the american people, and they did everything they could to cover up for donald trump's narcissism. he was a dangerous president. the american people better be thankful that joe biden is in the white house. thank you very much for letting me speak this morning. >> host: scott gottlieb who was fda commissioner during the trump administration was on cbs' "face the nation" yesterday and talked about the possibility that some of the reporting out of south africa about the prevalence of the variant may be overestimatedre at this point. he's o what he said. >> so a lot of americans are getting back on a plane after celebrating thanksgiving and gathering with their families. what do they need to know about transiting through airports, and should they get tested when hay off that plane -- they get back off that plane?
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>> look, i think people should use the same precautions they were using before. it appears this was detected very early in south africa, and it's not that prevalent. we may be overestimate thing its prevalence because of the recent upic in cases, there's a presumption that many of those cases are new variant, but it may well be the case that they're exhibiting a surge of delta infection as they relaxed some of their mitigation. so this probably isn't that prevalent around the world. i would still exercise the same cautions as before, and i think the biggeste risk to travelers s given the uncertainty around and world and the fact that countries are reacting so briskly, if you do end up being positive overseas, you could find yourself stuck in a very onerous quarantine relative to one or two weeks ago because i think countries are behaving with no frills at trying to control thery spread of this new variant, and heir taking concern they're taking drastic measures in some cases.
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>> host: and pointers reporting about how travelers are reacting, travelers on edge, is their headline, as countries tighten rules due to omicron fears. and they write that some would-be travelers are considering canceling or delaying tripp plans -- trip plans. travel agents said on monday threatening an already fragile recovery for the tourism industry.74 202-748-8000, if you're vaccinated. we're asking you about your thoughts and concerns over this reported new covid variant. you can also sented us a text, 202-748-8003. some thoughts on social media. viola says the worldwide hysteria is getting old, she betweens, there's no way you can prevent this virus by wearing a mask or getting a vaccine.
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this one says mutation, viral mutations are to be respected during a pandemic. that means governments must take an interest whenever their case positivity unexpectedly explodes x. then south africa has my gratitude for coming forth with their findings. let's hear from roger in mckenzie, alabama. good morning, roger. >> caller: yes, sir. i appreciate you taking my call. i think your question was are you concerned. i'm not concerned at all. we didn't shut down in the south. school's to open, concerts, spring break, bike rallies, church. and right now florida has the lowest, i think it's 27 per 100,000, the lowest in the whole country. if everybody up north locks you back up in the house where you give the viruson to everybody you're in the house with, you know, y'all need to tighten up. i appreciate it.
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>> host: thanks for your call this morning. 202-748-8000 lines for those of you who are vaccinated, unvaccinated is 202-748-8001. your concerns, your thoughts, has it changed any travel plans for you incc the upcoming holidy season. "the washington post," their lead story on the issue, the headline, biden focuses on boosters to protect against omicron. the biden administration is focusing on booster shots as a key weapon in efforts to protect nation against the potentially dangerous coronavirus variant even as the extent of the threat remains unclear. the white house said sunday a group of senior health officials had a call with south african scientists sunday to review the latest on the new variant and to help inform if next steps according to two senior administration officials who spoke on the condition of fianonymity. they also with write that in an update sunday the world health organization said it's still too early to know whether the new
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variant, omicron, is more transmissable than delta variant. there remains little understanding about the 70 -- severity, excuse me, of illnesses caused by the variant and the rate of hospitalizations. south african scientists where the variant was first identified said they expected more breakthrough cases in people vaccinated against the coronavirus. let's hear from janiced in san diego. good morning, go ahead. >> caller: good morning. the first comment i want to respond to was the gentleman who said we need to be so thankful to have biden in office. for what? inflation? thenk open border? it is utterly ridiculous that people are still blaming trump for anything when biden is doing the exact opposite of everything trump has done. i find it amazing how when trump shut the border for the exact
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same reason, he was xenophobic and a racist, and biden does the exact same thing, and we get crickets. as for me ever getting the vaccine, i don't trust it. i think there's something alarming about the way that they're pushing it. more people who have been vaccinated are actually passing on the virus versus the ones who are not vaccinated. and when trump was the one who came out with the vaccine within ten months, everybody on the left didn't trust it. i'mef not doing anything that trump did. it's the exact same vaccine that trump put out there that biden is now pushing. so i don't understand the insidiousness behind this vaccine. i think it's all about control. i don't think it's so much about the vaccines, especially when
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it's not working, and how many shots do you have to get before it works? >> host: all right, janice in california. more of your calls and comments in just a moment. we are joined by christina marcos, congressional reporter at "the hill," getting set for a very busy week as the house and senate return. christina marcos, good morning to you. >> guest: good morning. thanks for having me. >> host: the first big item is the deadline on friday for government spending. tell us how that's going to be addressed. >> guest: yes. that's the top of lawmakers' to-do list this week as they start coming back into washington from the thanksgiving break. congressional action right t no, current government funding is set to run out friday night, and so that's the first thing to avoid a shutdown. right now it's not yet clear how long another stopgap measure
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wouldow last. s in house the chairwoman of the house committee is pushing for a stopgap into mid december or so as a way to keep pressure on republicans to reach a long-term deal on federal spending. onn the other hand, there's suh a long to-do list for congress in the next few weeks particularly in the senate where legislation just moves a lot more slowly than in the house, and there's also some discussion among leaders about potentially passing a stopgap measure that'll go into january or february just so lawmakers would have more time to negotiate a top-line spending level. so that's something that's still under discussion, but at this point there's no expectation that there would be a shutdown, but lawmakers still have to iron out the -- >> host: well, you're reporting this morning on another issue related to the spending deadline is the debt ceiling. raising the debt ceiling for the united states.
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no deal in sight as congress nears debt limit deadline. what will they do there? >> guest: so the two the top leaders in the senate, chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell, have been talking in recent weeks. they had a meeting shortly before the thanksgiving break, and both sides portrayed it as a productive meeting that was constructive, but they're still not on the same page when it comess to how to raise the debt republicans are still pushing for democrats to use the budget reconciliation process that would require, that wouldld allw republicans to offer unlimited amendments, try to force democrats to take some politically tricky votes and, of course, democrats are not -- would rather not go that route. so this is still the question of how to avoid a default in the next couple of weeks, but the fact that mcconnell and schumer are talking is more progress than we saw the last time around back in october, the
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last time that we had this debt limite fight. >> host: as you mentioned, much of the attention this week will be focused on the u.s. senate. they come back today. they begin by taking up the defense authorization measure, and off the floor discussions continue on the president's social spending measure, the build back better plan, it's called. first of all, to floor action. will they complete action on that defense measure? coanother must-pass measure by e u.s. congress. and secondly, where cothings stand the on the $2 trillion measure, the build back better plan? >> guest: the defense bill, that's actually one of few bills aha congress, that's something that has to be passed on an annual basis, and that's something that congress has managed to renew every year consecutively for the last several decades. and so lawmakers want to be sure and keep up that track record. senators tried to reach a deal on some amendments to vote on before passage of bill before the thanksgiving break, but there were some objections among
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some senators who didn't get amendments, so they're still trying to reach work out an agreement for how to go forward, but the senate does plan to vote tonight on procedural votes and to advance the bill forward. so senators are hoping to pass the defense bill by the end of this week. >> host: back to the -- >> guest: and then with the build back better act -- >> host: yes. >> guest: -- the house just passed it before the thanksgiving break, and now every single senate democrat, all 50 of them, have to get onboard in order to send this to president biden's desk. so that means the individual members have a ton of leeway over what's in the final bill. so there's sill someling -- still some lingering issues including paid family leave as well as state and local tax deduction. >> host: one more thing over the weekend you wrote about hooking ahead to 2022, the headline said
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gop eyes booting democrats from seats if the house splints. is this a -- splits. is this a retaliatory the measure by republicans? >> guest: it would be if they take over the house. but shortly before the thanksgiving break the house voted to both censure and take the away committee assignments from paul gosar after he posted anom anime video that showed him killing alexandria ocasio-cortez aswi well as president bidenen. so democrats have main daneed both in the's -- maintained that when they removed marjorie taylor green from committees that they're establishing a precedent of not tolerating lawmakers who appear to promote political violence. mathey say that's a red line particularly after the violent attack on the capitol on january 6th. but republicans are very frustrated at being in the house minority where that means they can't, they don't have a whole lot of ability to stop whatever majority wants to do to. and so republicans who are very
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frustrated about this have been pushing kevin mccarthy to take retaliatory action ifry they do take over the house in 2022. >> host: lots to read about with christina marcos this week and "thehe hill." thanks for the update. >> guest: thanks for having me. >> host: our morning topic in our first hour, asking you about with may have over new variant reported, of covid-19, reported out of south africa. 202-748-8000 for those of you who have had at least one vaccination shot, and 202-748-80001 for nonvaccinated. the comments on social media, this one says there is no clear dataen on this variant other than it has shown mild symptoms in the patients observed, yet we're told it could and may do undetermined things, so we need swift and drastic action.
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steve said this, again, having had covid-19, get vaxxed and boosted. your number might come up. it's a tricky virus is, why take the chance?nc 85% needs to be reached for herd immunity. this will happen. get ready to live with -- this will never happen. get ready to live with this. let's take a call. go ahead. >> caller: hey, good morning. how are you doing? >> host: good morning. >> caller: let me tell you a little bit about my -- the. [inaudible] my experience with history and floss if my -- philosophy and studying it for quite a long time, okay? now, let me tell you one thing that you may not know. i'm speaking as an african who's the victim of -- [inaudible] this virus was created right here in fort dietrich, maryland,
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but they say it came from -- [inaudible]om >> host: all right. lori's next in modesto, california. hi there. >> caller: hi. i got both my vaccines, pfizer vaccine, and i'm, in fact, going to get my booster on tuesday. i just really, this variant that's coming up, with we don't know -- we know it's more contagious and it can the spread more, and it's just going to continue to be that way. i'm just asking everybody to stop being like teenagers. you know, you can't tell me what to do to. i'm grateful i had parents that told me what to do. i told them i hated them, i admit it, but it was for my own good. andst for other people's good. and i'm asking everyone to, please, let's do this together. let's get control of this. let's care for each other.
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let's stop this fighting and this craziness. and i hope that everybody just stops and thinks and instead of being divided like this works together. then we can finally become the greatest country in the world ever, you know? because everybody deserves to be treated right. and it's not just yourself that you're not getting the vaccine that you're going to affect, it's everybody else too. and there'she no greater feeling than to do something for someone else, so please do it. >> host: dr. anthony fauci yesterday on this week with george stephanopoulos on abc was asked about the new variant and whether it could be more virulent than previous strains. >> let's get to what we know and don't know about omicron variant. number one with, is it more transmissable than other variants? >> it appears to be, george. it has the molecular characteristics that woulde. strongly suggest it would be more transmissable. it has a bunch of mutations, a
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disturbingly large number of mutations in the spike protein which is the business end of virus which really binds particularly in one particular component of that spike that binds to the receptors in your body, in your nose, in your nasal fraction and your lungs concern patience and your lungs. it might evade some of the protection of monoclonal antibodies and convalescent plasma and perhaps even antibodies induced by vaccine. if you look at the pattern of what'soo going on right now in southern africa, particularly in south africa, when you have a spike of infections, they are very heavily weighted towards this new variant, the omicron. and, therefore, you have to presume that it has a good degree of transmissibility advantage which is very likely what is going on right now in southern africa and would likely be going on in other countries as it spreads. >> do we know if it causes more severe disease?
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>> great question, george, and we don't know that. in fact, we were on phone with our south african colleagues who have been incredibly good about being so transparent about what's going on there on friday, and we're meeting with them today the a little bit later on, in a couple of hours, to try and find out if the cases that they've identified are clearly caused by this variant, what is the level of severity in that. hopefully, it will be light. but, you know, south africa has a relatively small proportion of population that's vaccinated. so you've got to take that into the equation when you're trying to figure out where this virus is really going and what its impact is going to be. but bottom line, george, we bdon't know yet what the levelf severity will be. >> host: and more of your calls on your concerns on the new variant out of south africa. again, we'll hear from president biden later this morning, about
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11:45. lisa in texas, thanks for waiting. go ahead with your comment. >> caller: good morning. >> host: good morning. >> caller: at first i was very skeptical about the vaccination was we knew -- because we knew, did the not know very much about it. and i have a few numbers, a couple of numbers. seven, seven people in my family has passed from covid. not in the same state or town. the number 28 rings real true for me. i got covid last year between november and december, 28 days -- [inaudible] i decided to go ahead and take the vaccination, and i don't regret it at all. i conot worry about going -- i do not worry about going out and contacting it again or anything. i'm glad that i was vaccinated.
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>> host: even with vaccination, lisa, has it changed your, has it changed your lifestyle? >> caller: yes, sir. i go in once a week and volunteer at a food bank. of course we wear masks because it's required, but i see people that i know and give 'em a hug. i'm back to giving hugs again, you know? i'm not afraid at all. i'm very confident. and like i said, for almost a year i was very, very skeptical about thehe shot. i actually got a magnet and put it on my arm to see if it stuck. i listened to all of the silliness. i'm just telling everyone when you start watching all your love ones buried and when it hits you, then you'll know how real it is. >> host: all right. we'll go to mike in carey, north carolina. good morning. >> caller: good morning..
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i'm probably not going to change my behavior, you know? i mean, this is, this is just so predictable. whether the concern we're going to see variant. i mean, t just like the flu. every year the flu is different, okay? you get a flu shot, you're getting a flu shot from the flu virus from the year before. i have never gotten a flu shot, i never get the flu. now, that's anecdotal evidence, it doesn't prove anything, it's not, quote-unquote, scientific, but it works for me. i've bounced back andport on whether or not to get concern forth on whether or not to get the vaccine, especially since i've been fighting cancer. i got cancer almost at the same time covid landed -- >> host: so, mike, clearly covid's more of a threat to you than flu would be, right? so what other precautions do you take because you are a cancer
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victim? >> caller: yeah. well, i honor any, i've been almost in 100% lockdown for two years now, okay? so cancer forced me into early retirement, so i don't go very many places, okay? i go to my chemo sessions every two weeks, my doctor visits, my diagnostic procedures to monitor the cancer, and i go to the grocery store. i did go to a small thanksgiving gathering with friends on thanksgiving. even last year invi the middle f covid aftern i thought i had bt the cancer, i took a small road trip and went and saw friends and family. i wear masks in businesses that require it because i believe that the business has a right to run their business. i really don't, you know, i see people riding around in cars or walking outside in the fresh air and sunshine wearing masks, and
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i just have to laugh. the one thing i'd like to the make a comment on, and it's this what i consider unholy and wrong status that the dr. fauci has been given by media. he's, you know, the national institute of health proved him to be a liar with regards to gain ofim function and that the national institute of health had, indeed, funded a project at the wuhan lab. he's in total denial over the fact that that the virus more than likely at this point, okay, which is contradictory to the initial reports that it came out of a wet market, it didn't. it came out of a lab, and he and the current administration are totally negligent in holding the chinese communist party's feet to the fire on where this came from. how are we going to protect ourselves prosecute next one if
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we really don't know where the first one or at least where this one came from? so i love watching the battles between senator rand paul and dr. fauci. and every other network on tv the, including yours, holds him up to be some type of concern when he comes out and actually says i am science, that should cause people some distress and at least some concern. he's not science. okay? science is always to be questioned, okay in that's what makes science, science. >> host: mike, thanks for your call this morning. veer roar beach, florida, donna. go ahead. >> caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i've had my third vaccine and, actually, i had moderna. and moderna does not have, you know, a booster shot. so i talked to my doctor, and because i am very susceptible to
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different things, it was suggested i take a third regular-sized shot, which i did, had no ill effects from one, two or three. people are so is disillusioned it's gonna make me sick or -- it's a myth. it's not a myth. it's real -- >> host: so does getting that booster, that booster shot of yours, does that make you feel more confident when you hear reportse of this variant or additional variants which may come out? >> caller: i think so. i mean, you know, i haven't requested a test to see how good my immunity is, but, you know, that might be an unnecessary expense. but i believe it pays to cover all bases, and i know that it's real. i've had family and friends die
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from covid, and i wish i could, you know, i don't know what it's the going to take to get people to get their shots. >> host: yesterday on cnn's state of the union, arkansas governor asa hutchinson was asked about the state's response to covid and his concerns or his thoughts on the new variant. here's what he had to say. >> i want to ask you about this new omicron coronavirus variant. more than half of your residents in arkansas remain unvaccinated. is your state prepared to deal with this new variant? >> well, delta has been tough on us, andit so we don't welcome a new variant, ands a great concern. but i think message as a governor is steady as you go. we obviously have to have more information. but let's take this window to get better prepared by increasing our vaccination rates. we're making great progress in arkansas. we continue to go up in our vaccination rate.nd we continue to encourage that,
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and we've got a window here to seal it off. and you compare where we are now to last year when we were really spiking up, we're much less than that. our vaccination rates are up, so i'm much more optimistic about getting through this winter. but, obviously, a new variant is a concern. let's get vaccinated. that's our best protection. >> well, as you just did, you have been consistently using your platform to beg people in your state to get vaccinated, but you will not impose a vaccine mandate. arkansas might be doing better, but it still has the eighth lowest vaccination rate in the country. socc the is it time to acknowlee that your approach isn't working? >> not at all. in fact, what we've seen is that through education, through information vaccination rates go up, and that's more productive than a mandate that comes down
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e that people instinctively resist. so you have to know the culture, you have to know what -- how people respond to it. and in arkansas that information-based education is what isrm working and will be effective. the mandates are not something that the people of arkansas are going to respond well to. >> host: headline from the u.k.'s daily mail, unusual symptoms of mutant to covid strain, southl african doctor first raised alarm about omicron warns early signs are mild and patients do not lose their sense of smell. the south african doctor who first raised the alarm on omicron has revealed patients are presenting with unusual symptoms. dr. angelique whore runs a prive practice in pretoria said she first noticed earlier this month that covid patients were presenting with a host of odd symptoms. doctor, who has practiced for over 30 years and chairs the south african medical
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association, said none of omicron patients suffered from a loss of taste or smell typically associated s with covid, but instead presented with unusual markers likeen intense fatigue d a high pulse rate. reaction, comments on social media. on facebook chris sends this: i'm not vaccinated. i wash my hands and take standard precautions. i'm tired of all the buildup. what happens happens. it's time to get back to life. dorothy on facebook: concerned our draconian government will lock us down. give me liberty or give me death. joan said after reading what the honchos v say, my only concern s their concern, vaccine efficacy. and steve on twitter says let's be careful about an ec coats about omicron -- anecdotes about omicron, let's wait for data and statistics. let's hear from jim? portland, tennessee. jim, good morning. >> caller: good morning, and it's jeff -- >> host: i'm sorry, jeff.
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apologize on that. >> caller: no, that's okay. yeah, i am, of course, vaccinated, and, you know, i don't understand the, you know, the divisiveness that we have with this administration. i mean, joe biden, harris, we are not going to get the shot, we wouldn't get the shot, so why is there any surprise? i don't think that you can force someone to get the shot, and i, again, have had mine, and i respect, you know, the people that don't want to get it. but you don't start out by saying that, you know, and dividing d everyone, trying to fear everyone to getting it because it's just not going to work. we as a people are designed just naturally, you're not going to force people to do it. and, you know, from what i understand from the reporting that they are doing on the covid shot data that they're not even going to release that for 50 years. i sayy again, this you go. they're not going to tell us the
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truth about what's what. and, you know, that's where you start. you don't come into an administration and start the dividing people and putting this one existence that one -- against that one. i am so sick of this. and let's just, you know, come together and try to figure this out. i've got neighbors, family that will not get the shot, but simple fact is they're being told to get it. so that's where we're at, and i hope people come around and do get it, but we just cannot force people to do this, you know? we just have to come together and hope that everyone will get it. because we're going to have another strand and another strand and another strand, and that's the way it's going to keep going, and you cannot fear us into doing this. maybe if you tried to bring us together instead of trying to divide us all the time, we might get somewhere. >> host: william in cabot, arkansas, go ahead. william, you're on the air. good morning. >> caller: good morning.
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this ain't william, it's -- >> host: okay. says william here, but i apologize. >> caller: i'm unvaccinated, i'm not -- i don't believe in the vaccination. for one thing, if we're going to control this covid, anthony fauci's feet need to be put to the fire for what he done. he is cause of this. he paid foro it, he knows what happened with it, he knows how it was produced. he can give you a warning 10, 15 days ahead of time that something's going to happen, but he can't be honest about his part in doing this in this communist government we got ain't holding him responsible for what he's doing. also these governors that have killed these people in nursing homes, they ought to be in prison for murder. you'll never get a handle on it, i don't care if you've got a thousand vaccines. >> host: let's go to mike in
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summerville, massachusetts. >> caller: good morning. as far as this omicron goes, i guess we have to wait and see what data comes out. i'm just really -- i called in because i am listening to all these other people call in, and it's just sad how misinformed these people are. the job of communicating this data's difficult to begin with, but we've had one political party flat out lie about the factual reality of this from the get go, and that's the conservative party. and it's really sad to hear these conservatives call in and basically throw their hands up and be willing to sacrifice themselves for what i think are some of the most vile,
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disgusting human beings on this planet who are pushing lies about basic public health. and if you have any contact with hospitals, you know what's going on. and i don't know how -- [inaudible] i really don't know. but i see these people dropping dead. and i don't know what to do about it when you have one political party that's just falsely -- [inaudible] i don't know what to do about it, but i guess they're willing to sacrifice themselves when there's a perfectly decent, effective vaccine available. you know, i thought we were a countryla that bands together to fight a common enemy which is the virus that's shutting down hospitals, and i'll say it once and i'll say it again, you, my
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fellow citizens, don't have the right to shut down my access to health care. so you can m sit home if you dot to cooperate or act like an adult. but the other big issue here is misinformation, and i don't know how to get through to these people because -- [inaudible] social media has exacerbated that a effect. >> host: i've got a question for you this morning, it's about the new variant, the omicron variant first reported in south africa causing travelia shutdowns aroud the world and further deliberation by members of the g7 today, by the white house coronavirus task force this morning. the president will speak to the nation this morning at 11:45 about it. 202-748-800 is the line to call if you are vaccinated, have had ate least one of the covid avvaccines. 202-748-8001 if you haven't. the news from the florida delegation, a former member of congress, politico with the headline carrie meek, pioneering
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black former congresswoman dies at 59. they write that -- 95. the grandchild of a slave and a sharecropper's daughter who became one of first black floridians elected to congress since reconstruction died sunday. she was 95, died at her home in miami after a long illness. let's hear from lonnie in huntington, west virginia. go ahead. >> caller: hey, this is lonnie. thanks forking take taking my call -- for taking my call. i was -- [inaudible] hey, buddy, just man up, would you? everybody's afraid of dying. if you wake up in the morning and are afraid of dying, you're going to be afraid of anything. and i remember fauci, that lying little creep, first time i saw him on the tv, don't worry about the virus. it's in china, it's not going to get over here. he's a scientist. he's a freaking idiot. i've been vaccinated, i had the virus. i wear a mask 8 hours a day.
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i had to take mask off because from my nose and my mouth, what's coming out makes it start to smell -- [inaudible] >> host: let's hear from christian in phoenix, arizona. >> caller: thank you so much for taking my call. i just want to say a couple things, and then i want to just read a quote from a man who left a message in his obituary after he a died from taking the vacci. the first thing, you know, i hear a lot of people talking about how this party or this other half of country just count wantt to -- and i'll say it ino many words -- go along with the program. but you knoww what? while we all have different views or different values and philosophies, just remember in the reconstruction era our country was divided. we had half of country who
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wanted to keep slavery going and wanted to keep oppression going during the 1860s, and you had this crazy president and these crazy ohio republicans who had this crazy idea of ebbing slavery. and -- ending slavery. and it cause tuition in our country. -- division in our country. i give real pause to people who say everybody's just going along to get along. no. our country was designed to have disagreements, okay?ry that's the first thing. the sec thing is, again, i want to say in this again, joe biden stood in front of the podium, in front of the nation, and said -- and slammed his hand on the podium and said i am frustrated with the people who won't get vaccinated.. this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. so, i mean, for people on the other side who want everyone
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else to give up their liberty and their freedoms and their individual personal rights, you're going to have some friction. you're going to have some strife. so just deal with it, okay? that's just a part of the united states. now there was a man who left a message in his to obituary, his name is michael anthony granada, he goes by mike. he's from california. he left a message, and his wife included it in his obituary. he said, quote: many nurses and non-nursing staff begged me and my wife to get the truth out to the public about the covid-19 vaccine because the true effects of the vaccine was being hidden. i promised i would get the message out. i was afraid of getting the vaccine for fear i might die. at the insistence of my doctor, i gave in to the pressure to get
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the vaccine. on august 17th i received the moderna vaccine and started feeling ill three days later. i've never recovered but continued to get worse. i developed multisystem inflammation and multisystem failurest that medical professionals could not stop. my muscles disappeared as if to disintegrate. i was in the icu for several weeks and stabbed with needles up to -- >> host: okay. christian, all of this was included in this man's obituary? >> caller: yes. >> host: okay. thanks for your call. this is from the washington post, the reporting of the data on covid-19. to date, as of 8 p.m. last night the total number of cases since february of 2020 is 48,004226. and the number of vaccine doses administered in the united
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states since early year, 4 -- almost 455 million doses. dr. francis collins heads national institutes of health, yesterday was on "state of the union," and he talked yesterday about the research ahead on this new variant. ea>> in a statement on friday, moderna said, quote: the combination of mutations represents a significant potential risk to accelerate the weighing of natural and vaccine-induced mime ton i -- immunity. can you explain what that means, and is it possible that the omicron variant is what scientists like you call an escape variant? >> it's the possible but, again, based on what we've learned so far with alpha, beta, exam ma and delta -- [laughter] the vaccines, which are generated against the original virus, still work. and the boosters work marley well. this is the wk if first point. for the people who are listening who haven't yet gotten boosted and who are eligible now, this
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isge the another reason to do tt now because the booster is basically enladies and gentlemenning the the capacity -- enlarging the capacity of your immune system to recognize all kinds of spike proteins it's never seen. this is a great day to get boosted or find out how to do so at in the worst case, you might have a virus that is so different that the vaccines don't enable protection. that's the kind of thing we need to check out as quickly as possible. we'll get some sense because of riwhat's happening in south afra because about 37% of south africansof are vaccinated. we should find out in the next two or three weeks is the protection that they're having somewhat better than the unvaccinated people? that data the's going to start to emerge, and it'll work in the laboratory and askbe if you took serum from somebody who's been vaccinated, does it actually neutralize that virus in the lab. and that'll take another another two or three weeks. so stay tuned, there's no reason
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to panic, but there's a great reason to go get boosted. >> host: and someis thoughts on the new variant on social media. this tweet says the majority of people dying are unvaccinated and theri majority of infections are ined the unvaccinated, so wy should they be allowed to infect others? cynthia betweens: i'm glad dr. fauci is finally speaking out on "face the nation." he pointed out those who question science are attacking facts and reality and this behavior is close sieve to every facet ---- corrosive to every facet of society. johnn says, if omicron was like ebola, it would be lights out. in maine we hear from jean. go ahead. >> caller: hello? >> host: hi, jean. you're on the air. >> caller: i wanted to talk about treatment versus vaccination. this virus, the basis of this
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virus is the cold virus. coronavirus is the common cold. and all of the variants are the mutations that come into it, which thisia has happened since the beginning of time. people have gotten colds, and sometimes people have gotten really sick and died. so the ideal way to treat it would be to have a vaccination. can see that that has not happened. i believe the statistics are being skewed about the problems with the vaccination because i know of a nursing home where at least 3 out of 30 people died from the vaccine. i have inside information. so we're not hearing what really happens with the vaccine. in israel at one point there were more vaccinated people in
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the hospitall with covid than unvaccinated. i won't say what i think the vaccine is all about, but you have to ask yourself why won't we be able -- why can we not use ivermectin which they know cures if it's used early? >> host: to mark in omaha, nebraska. good morning. >> caller: good morning. yeah, thank you for taking my call. yeah, i've had the vaccine and the boosters, the modernas. i am -- [inaudible] i do feel it's a personal decision, and that's a decision i made. so blaming others for not taking the vaccine, i'm not for that. i do want to say that in nine months trump, trump's administration did make the
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vaccines. now biden's been in office almost 12 months, where's he at on improving them or the therapeutics and stuff like that? there's no breakthrough in research. you don't even hear about it. and so, and then also i've read read a few things about south african variant. they never talk about i don't think it's causing deaths or hospitalizations. i read an article that a lot of the things are mild but a different type of symptoms. and then one last thing i'll wrap it up and listen to other comments, but i remember when the covid first came to america. biden and the democrats were all blaming trump. why didn't he protect us? he knew it could get here. but when the dell -- delta came, no one's blaming biden. oh, we knew-in india. he should -- it was in india. he should have gotten blamed for
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delta killing so many more people this year than when trump was president. same with south african. you know -- it's not here yet, what is he doing to protect you? you have to cover both sides. they were blaming trump after being in office and it coming within a month and he cut down travel and stuff like that, blame him. why didn't he protect us? well, why didn't biden protect us -- >> host: well, we will hear more from president biden today about 11:45 or so he's supposed to speak to the nation about this new variant of covid-19. "wall street journal" this morning reporting how the private sector, how business sector is responding. quote: it's important not to cats phase and just jump to the worse, but you've got to take it as a real threat said the chief executive of jet co. delivery, a houston logistics company. st a risk and how severe is the
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risk. we don't know, he said. he said he would watch for guy cannes from u.s. health authorities -- guidance and plans to discuss the variant with a small team later this week. executives say they also want to be careful not to make rash decisions. at hubspot incorporated, a pandemic response teem plans to learn more about the variant and then we'll discuss the it this week, said the company's chief officer. let's hear from alexis in wilmington. ..
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in their research studies i volunteered. i was told it was a two-year study and i agreed. i got paid for visits and keeping up an app. i have not had the booster, and i'm over 12 months out. my second shot was in september of, september 22 of 2020. >> why haven't you got in the booster yet? >> i wish i could tell you. i'm hoping somebody hears of, associate with the pfizer study in the southeast area that will contact you to contact me because -- >> good morning, f.


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