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discussion on border security with former officials to share some texas to massachusetts for the also hurts my mother who lost her daughter to a fentanyl overdose a car accident involving an undocumented immigrant. from capitol hill this is three hours. good afternoon. i want to welcome all the
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participants. i want to thank those of you that have and are serving the nation and your governments for your service. i want to certainly thank those that aren't serving for just coming here and being willing to tell your stories. i want to thank the media for attending. i truly appreciate it. we all do. this is a crisis that needs to be described. a problem that needs to be admitted to, and the media is crucial in getting the message out. i want to thank my colleagues, senator scott and senator portman. i have more to say but those gentlemen later. why are we here? it's pretty simple. senator peters wouldn't hold a hearing on this unprecedented crisis of illegal migrant flow into this country. recently retired border chief scott wrote a letter to the
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committee that the chair man ignored, and when we requested a hearing, he simply wouldn't agree to hold one. now that's been pretty true of the democratic chairs throughout the house and senate. they will talk a little bit if there's a nominee where we can bring the border up as a issue but they don't want to acknowledge this crisis. and denying that this crisis exists, i couldn't believe it when the secretary before our threat hearing him and i asked him do you still contend that the border is closed and he said yes. it was a breath of fresh air yesterday and the commerce hearing where the commandant of the coast guard said that it would be disingenuous to say that the border is closed. so i appreciate that honesty
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from admiral scholz. but we have an enormous crisis here. if we have a copy, we have paper copies, electronic copies. but as the "washington post" reporter mentioned this is unprecedented. the largest flow since people came in to take advantage of the amnesty. it's a crisis that didn't have to happen. this is a self-inflicted wound. as i said repeatedly as vice president biden or harris went down in search of the root cause she had no further to go looking for the president of the united states and realized president biden is the root cause of this crisis. we are here today because the american public deserves the truth. we are going to try to present as many dimensions of the problem as possible. when republicans were in the majority in the senate under my
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chairmanship over six years, we held over 30 hearings regarding some aspect of the border crisis, the broken immigration system. so the way we are structuring this today we have three panels. i will introduce the first. senator scott will introduce the second and senator portman, the third to describe the current crisis at the border and the biden policies that caused it. the second panel senator scott will introduce because he has an experience with the impact that this unprecedented flow of illegal immigrants are having on the communities and states. he had to deal with that and the third panel will describe the impact on people. the tragedies of overdoses and violence as a result of this
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unprecedented flow of illegal immigration. senator portman will introduce that panel and has a great deal of experience shutting down looking into this looking into the opioid crisis. sentinel, human trafficking. again i want to thank everybody for attending. this will be kind of two segments. we will have two opening statements by the group and have some questions and open up to questions from the press and then once that is over we will come back and there will be full five-minute statements and more in-depth questions. so let me start by introducing the first panel. the first speaker will be mr. merton morgan. mr. morgan has a 30 year career in law enforcement, dhs and fbi and served as the acting commissioner of the border protection and acting director
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of immigration customs enforcement during the trump administration. president obama appointed him as the u.s. border patrol chief after he served on the detail from the fbi to the cbp is the acting assistant commissioner for internal affairs. mr. morgan served for nearly 20 years of the fbi. during his tenure he served in numerous units and task forces including the eurasian organized crime task force and the gang task force out of the los angeles field office. the fbi's deputy on scene commander for the counterterrorism division in baghdad and a special agent in charge. mr. morgan, thanks for being here. >> senator portman and senator scott. thank you for your attention. we know you're busy so it's very heartfelt that you are taking this time. i'm just going to briefly talk about an area of focus and what this is really about.
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first and foremost this is about border security. this is not about illegal immigration. illegal immigration is simply a subset of the larger issue and border security. if you open up to one threat or one crisis you open your borders up to the vast complex set of threats facing the border from outside this country you pull the central resources off the line opening the borders of two criminal aliens, to gang members increase human smuggling, human trafficking and drugs appointed in this country. in another key area that i think we don't do a good enough job is that what happens at the southwest border does not stay at the southwest border. that is just false. every town, city and state in the country is a border town
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city and state. it doesn't stay at the southwest border. if you have a drug overdose from a sentinel, take it to the bank it came from the southwest border. and equally as important to me is not only have the borders been wide open jeopardizing every aspect of the public health, safety and national security which is just as frustrating for me and i do, i get up as an american angry almost every day. why? because i know, we know, we've been there. this administration is way beyond not being transparent. they are lying to the american people and i respect the commandant to say the borders are closed or disingenuous. 400,000 got away this fiscal year. 400,000. 1.9 million total enforcement cap encounters an all-time record high.
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i would say stop lying to the american people. thank you. in the career nonpartisan civil service positions during his career the border patrol mr. scott earned positions of deputy executive director cbp office of anti-terrorism, the director's office of incident management and operations coordination management, the patrol agent in charge of the chief patrol agent of the sector and the chief patrol agent in the san diego sector. mr. scott was named the chief in february 2020 where he led the office into his retirement in august of 2021. mr. scott. >> i'm going to echo some of mrk you for this opportunity. thank you for the time and highlighting this important issue today.
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thank you for reading my letter for the reckless policies that are reading implement it by the administration of the border despite being advised otherwise by professional border security personnel that have been involved in this for decades i want to address the inaccurate statements that are being made and i want to qualify that the border is not secure and is less secure today. border security is mr. morgan mentioned is much broader and bigger than immigration. immigration is just a subcomponent of that. i think it's important for people to understand and put it into context. it's just like your home. if we don't know and can't control who and what is in our home, we have no security.
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if we don't know who and what is in our country, we have no homeland security. the highly visible illegal immigration that's going on in the southwest border is overwhelming border patrol agents is only part of the issue and we need to highlight as well that there is 100, when i left as chief there were 150 different nationalities mixed in. it's not just the haitians you hear people talking about are the south americans. it's 150 different nations and many of those involved, or many of the nations are directly tied to or supporting terrorism threats. professionals briefed the transition teams if they rescinded the common sense border initiatives that were put in place recently and if they stopped building the border wall we all predict that there would be a mass migration and again the mass migration creates havoc on the border. the real issue at hand is the
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border patrol agents are being distracted and being overwhelmed. so while the nation was looking at thousands of haitians under the bridge in del rio, all the border patrol agents were focused on taking care of them, securing that area which left hundreds of miles of border unmanned all that open border at will and what were they bringing, they were bringing the fentanyl, cocaine and heroin and by the way, the border is not las vegas. everything that crosses the border leaves the border. it doesn't stay there. it is going to a state, city or town and likely your state, city and town and we will hear more about that today. i think that there is more common sense solutions. some of them have been on the table before. some of them are just re- implementing that would ensure the judicial process not before the judge had a chance to make a
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decision. and re- implementing or continuing to build out the border wall as was a bipartisan issue for decades and has already been paid for. those gaps in the barrier right now are also requiring more agents to be taken off of enforcement duties every day and further opening the border for exploitation. again thank you for your time i look forward to getting more into the details as the day goes on and i'm here to answer your questions. before joining the former immigration and naturalization service, ins in 1984. he served as the special assistant special agent in charge of dallas and then in charge of the field office he became executive director for
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enforcement in 2009 and was promoted to the deputy associate director. president obama appointed him as the associate director enforcer in 2013. i spent 34 years enforcing the immigration law and work to the entire lifecycle. i was a border patrol agent on the front line. i saw a lot of tragedy during that time and in the headquarters when i ran the national enforcement program
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then later. then president trump nominated me the first director that came up through the ranks. so the men and women that worked for me i never asked them to do anything i didn't do myself as a special agent. i am here today because i worked for six and respect every president i ever worked for. even if i disagreed on the perspective. i will just to be clear president trump did more to secure the border than any president in my lifetime. that is a fact. illegal immigration. how many women didn't get raped when they found 83%. how many children didn't die when immigration was found 83% and how many dollars of the cartels were not made when it was down, how many children
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didn't die of overdoses across the border. they are successful policies. as i said i respect every president i ever worked for and it's hard for me as it is to say we now have the first president in my lifetime that came into office and intentionally unsecured the border. the president of the united states came in with the most secure border in my lifetime. the data is clear on that. a record number of crossings in the history of the border
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patrol. 95% comes across the southern border. 31% get raped. that's not my number, that is the doctors without borders number. so as devastating as a career law enforcement officer that worked very closely to help the president secure the border the best that it's ever been to see it destroyed within two weeks is on presidential. and the american people need to speak up and take some action because in my entire career i've never seen anything like i'm seeing today. people are dying. they look vilified by the president, the vice president and the secretary with all the horse patrol. those agents did nothing wrong.
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they enforced the law but no one wants to talk about the haitians that were committing that crime by entering the country weakly ignoring the federal officers orders which was a felony. these men and women did their job and put their lives on the line for this country every day. they need to be respected and honored. they lost operational control of the border under this president. they've also lost respect to the commander-in-chief and the secretary. when the president of the united states ekes a speech that they'll administration children died on the rio grande and these men and women are doing nothing about it is the most shameful thing i've ever seen a president to say. there were over 7,000 lives saved this year. 7,000 people they saved. so i look forward to answering your questions. thank you for inviting me. >> senator scott?
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>> thank you for organizing this event today and each of you for being here. my heart goes out to those that have lost their family members. i don't think any of us could imagine losing a child or grandchild. a governor from 2011 to 2019 and what i was shocked about is how cavalier sometimes our federal government is. when you talk to sheriff's today what they are going to tell you is the unbelievable amount coming in and it's killing people, it's killing american citizens. i remember when we had refugees coming into florida the obama chief of staff told me to my face he said you have no right to know who we send to your state. no right to know what the governor of florida, with the criminal background is. how could we have a federal
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government that thinks we could not care if it comes into my state and not care who comes to the state and the background is and no right to know. the mayor of yuma arizona. thank you for being here. >> and thank you for the invitation today to come and tell the story of what's happening. it's one of those opportunities we take advantage of because whether you are walking the border or just looking at first-hand experience, it's very important to understand how it's affecting us. but really as a community, yuma is very supportive of the border
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patrol agents and the jobs they do every day. they are an important part of the community so when their job is above and beyond nearly impossible it affects the community because of our relationship with them and they do an amazing job with the limited resources that they have. part of the stress for the agents but also for the community as being part of a human trafficking highway. transnational criminal organizations had monetized people around the world. these are not values that americans subscribe regardless how great of a job they do it comes to policy legislation. it makes a situation that will
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break this highway that comes through yuma and the only way that you do that is with systemwide changes to make sure that we are disrupting this business of these transnational criminal organizations. with thousands coming across the border they don't have time to do the rest of the introduction with drugs and other things coming into the country as well as those looking to evade. there's been over 6,000 people just in this last year that we know of while we've sat and have had to deal with the men and women who come across the border in terms of getting themselves into the system.
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to make sure every citizen in the community is safe. it's frustrating for sheriffs who might say when they see a federal government that's another partner, that's clearly right now the federal government isn't acting as a partner with law enforcement. we will hear from sheriff thompson from massachusetts. >> senator, thank you. massachusetts between 2007 and 2017 for 2500 miles of the border had the highest influx of illegal aliens in any other state in the united states. recently the biden administration decided to create the document tatian locations
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where people are flooding across the border, tell them where they want to go, they tell them the state and they will go there. between june, i believe june 2nd and today, during the month of june, they had 21. today it is 116,000 of these people pouring into the country. when i first took over i have been doing immigration detention for that entire time as well as to 87g programs in the recent years. people talked about the border issues as geographic locations
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this is and every neighborhood across this nation. and it's tearing apart families with a drug overdose and the fentanyl pouring in. it's the gang violence and neighborhoods in the school is out of control and frankly this was done knowingly and intentionally by the biden administration and what they've done is they have after 25 years of doing detention in 287g and the former director will tell you this we were a model for the nation on the standards in the way that we ran our operations. i got a phone call in may this past year and within an hour they shut down the secretary, my entire operation. we have people now they have to look for in the communities that
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are exposing the citizens of the neighborhoods and i will just end with this last point. everyone of us including the biden administration took an oath of trust and they have intentionally undermined that oath and exposed law enforcement inability to maximize the potential to do our job. and i will be happy to expand on that later on but thank you very much for having me here today. this 27-year-old report done by the state of florida.
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the unfair burden. it's pushed onto the state and local governments and taxpayers. the burden includes adding hundreds of thousands of new workers to the labor market, creating unfair job competition for u.s. workers especially the less educated americans who've been hit the hardest in the pandemic shutdown. it's a huge burden for the schools to deal with the influx of kids mostly teens who can't just be dropped into existing classes and curriculums. medical care, social services, even federal entitlement payments. it all adds up and is going to keep growing because to be
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honest, these arrivals are here for the foreseeable future and some serious public safety problems as we've heard. those that are able are going to keep coming. this is so dangerous that i believe it is morally wrong for us to have policies that entice people to come give up their life savings, put them in the hands of a criminal smuggling organization to come here illegally. what i can't put a price on is the destruction of the integrity of the legal immigration system.
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and to try to mitigate them. they even try to curtail the illegal entry to the witnesses that have devoted your lives to protecting the country, thank you for your service. jessica, thank you for your comments. i'm going to talk for a minute about two additional witnesses. they are here today to talk about the real world impacts of the border that permits cartels
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not just to bring people across but to bring all kinds of contraband. i spent the last 25 or 30 years focused on one aspect of this which is the drug issue and started my own drug prevention program back home that's still active and involved in the legislation on treatment and recovery and the demand side of that has to be dealt with. we found out china was the culprit on the deadliest of all the drugs which is a synthetic opioid called sentinel. we put in place some policies to change the law including the stop act but it's like whack a mole. so we stopped the u.s. postal
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service from deploying this into the community and now it is going to mexico. the precursors are being sold by china to mexico and it is being made into fentanyl. there's been more fentanyl found in the last year coming over the border fan in the entire history. just last week there was a couple kilos of sentinel found in ohio enough to kill a couple hundred thousand people or more.
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i'm old enough to have been around in 1986 and when the amnesty talked about it and people wanted to get in under the wire. today these numbers were just overwhelming. in their backs or in their pockets you could have a small supply that could be very deadly and expensive is coming in with a lot of other contraband so we don't know how many drugs are being apprehended.
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you have taken your grief and channeled it into something very constructive including crime to convince young people they need to stay away from all these drugs because they are all potentially deadly now. it's crystal meth coming from mexico. it's marijuana and other drugs coming across the border. the supply is also important, and think about it. with all of this fentanyl streaming across the border the cost has gone down and down to the point that on the streets of akron ohio, it is cheaper and cheaper and this year, sadly the data that we have from 2020 indicates that we had the most deaths from overdoses of drugs ever in the history of the country. we are making great progress thanks to the legislation.
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it's about the gangs and the violence and the people that are coming in. really, it is about the neighborhoods and families. with that i would like to ask you if you would say a few words and if you could say a little bit about your experience and what you are doing it again and againthank you both for takr tragedy and helping others to be able to avoid experiencing the same thing.
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thank you senator portman and senator scott for hosting this important forum today. my daughter died in 2015 from a single pill that was made to look identical to a trademarked pharmaceutical product notice percocet. tiffany didn't seek to use fentanyl. tiffany didn't really have any issues at all before that day when she died and now we have an entirely new population of people being affected by the fentanyl crisis that we have never in the history of this country seem before dying and they are the non-addictive victims. young people who are getting counterfeit bills or are given to them by a friend or they are being purchased in online platforms like snapchat that
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make these available to anyone who has a smart phone including children as young as 12-years-old. these children didn't overdose. the majority of people dying right now are not overdosing and we need to start calling them what they are. these are poisonings. someone that takes a substance and disguises it as something else or puts it into something for another to consume, it doesn't matter what they are consuming. that deception makes it a poisoning. to put it in as a pharmaceutical product, which is known not to be deadly.
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it will continue to get worse as we have this new population of young people. the young kid who might try a drug one time, the girl that broke up with her boyfriend and a friend offers a xanax to get through the night. they are not addicted. they are having life problems and dying. the numbers will continue to grow up and up until we do two things, stop the fentanyl from getting to them and warned them. so i thank you for having me today and giving us the opportunity to share more about that.
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thank you. i brought my son with me. these are his ashes. for giving him a voice. i am a legal immigrant. because an illegal immigrant killed my only child in riverside california on 71212, my son was on his way to work with the riverside sheriff's department is the 911 communications officer. at 5:45 a.m., my family was destroyed, and annihilated in the blink of an eye and i received that phone call that every parent fears. he was struck by an illegal alien repeat offender fell in with grand theft armory convictions, no license and two duis that he received probation for. the killer made a deal with the judge in charge with vehicular
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manslaughter without growth negligence and received nine months five years probation and he served 35 days. if the existing immigration laws on the books would have been upheld in the first time or third time, i wouldn't be here and my son would still be enjoying his beautiful wife and thousands of other families like mine wouldn't know my grief and pain. illegals are no longer hiding in the shadows to feel emboldened, fearless and entitled with this administration rewarding them, encouraging them and inviting them to come. all while the border patrol agents and law enforcement as they placed pro- illegal pro illegalimmigration city typo legal positions. illegals also help different standards than americans.
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regardless what party you believe and where you live, it is for everybody that lives in america. there's hardly any consequences. the cartels get richer and more powerful with funneling drugs and human trafficking while americans have to pay a high price for this insanity. it costs the country billions yearly. they are also admitted into the country, not tested and then transported throughout america. is that not aiding and abetting a felony? women and children once they used to scream are suddenly quiet. if someone gets shot, they immediately come back for gun confiscation. no one calls for immediate removal and it stops the
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flooding. they continue to make excuses for illegals and by the way it isn't a race. changing the term to undocumented immigrant is not only an insult to those legal like myself but the media is conclusive and the underreported crimes committed by illegals and hardly speaking to any of us. why is the administration not doing anything in their power to secure the border, stop the freebies going to the illegals and support the ones here and draining our system while americans often have to do with less or without. why are some in power making it easy for illegals harder for americans? illegals shouldn't have any rights in this country they entered illegally. it's long overdue to put an end to the chaos and to listen to and take care of all of the
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families who become victims at no fault of their own. and i appreciate everybody on this panel for speaking about it because this is the only way we can change this. thank you. >> at this point in time they had a shorter time frame, but i think you can understand just by the initial stories being told that there is a lot more to tell and there will be a lot more told. so i think we have a microphone that is going around. if you have a question then we will go into the full statement after we exhaust this round of questions. >> is a question for all three
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senators, please looking at the chart of the southwest border apprehensions, you point to the border of the policy. obviously we had a spike right after that and it wasn't until may of 2019 when president trump issued terrorist threats against mexico for them to start cooperating. obviously the administration is preparing to re- implement the policy because of a court order. if this chart is accurate and tells a story, are you concerned that without diplomacy or threats from the biden administration to cooperate that actually won't do a lot. >> i want to encourage the press to ask the questions of the panelists and i'm going to turn it over to people like mark morgan because he was there and
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understood the cause and effect of the policies and the cause and effect of listing the policies and how much it is going to be difficult to put that genie back in the bottle. it was profound and significant. speak into the microphones and just address it to us. >> we took the position. we do not need others permission to secure the borders and enforce our immigration laws. first and foremost that is the position that we took one of strength and leverage. as a part of a significant reason why mexico agreed to cooperate is and was the threat. make no mistake. this administration as senator johnson said they gave away every ounce of the leverage on the stroke of a political pen so it is going to be hard to put the genie back in the bottle. even though the supreme court is
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backed up to lower courts it is and that they must remain in the mexico program, it's been that they've done absolutely nothing. they provided declarations, so i've seen with the dhs has said in response to the remain in mexico program and i think it is just disingenuous 100% across the board. at the end of the day they are telling the court they are moving forward in good faith and they are actually right now completing a document that's getting ready to go to the field saying they are going to end the program. it's in the memo that they are going to complete. number two, read the fine print. i've seen the media are going to
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start implementing it in november but the fine print says as long as mexico agrees. so they gave up all the leverage and put it back on a foreign nation to secure the borders and enforce the immigration law and that is the opposite thing to do and that's why i'm skeptical. >> next question. >> for rodney scott, can you shed more light on why you left your post and what your concerns are for the border patrol agents that work alongside that are working on the front lines. >> what is referred to as a three our executive position in the government you can be moved at any time so i was offered another position but i have 29 years of service and i've been eligible to retire for a while
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to be completely transparent. because i've been outspoken internally about the impacts of some form of the policies i've pushed back consistently on inaccurate statements about the border being secure and more people being deported then actually released on different issues like that so i would like to retire so i can speak out. i'm very concerned with those that are left behind and what, i mean, by left behind is i do believe, to kind of back up the statements this administration has walked away from the border security and left the personnel and customs and border protection. as they soar by oath to do than they are facing the wrath of the current administration. the horse patrol issue in del rio for example is a
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distraction. everybody knew the sec. if you look at the initial statements the agents did nothing wrong but they leveraged that to draw attention from the border policies and the crisis they created and tried to draw attention to something that wasn't even true so i'm very worried about the agents that are left behind. >> i want to add a quick remark to this. they are not by any administration it's usually political appointees. he isn't the only one. the commissioner cbp left because he was being moved. i know these two senior directors that were removed because they were also outspoken. this administration is hunting for anybody that doesn't and if i could to back to any in the country, hsi, fbi, dea, three
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letter designation and flying from the white house from the cabinet level secretary where they have gone down to a third level in the chain of command as mr. holman explained and they directed the removal of an individual and those organizations. it's never happened in the history. last thing and he's probably going to give me a hard time afterwards, but the friend and patriot to the country, rodney scott you are not going to find a finer man or human being in this country. i worked with alongside him a long time and appointed him the chief of border patrol and found him to be that official. he didn't come to work from the standpoint he came as an american and senior executive and enforcing the rule of law on the books as we have it today and the fact that he is forced out should disgust us all.
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do you want to talk about how big is your city and just some of the financial and people impacts it has had on your city. >> thank you, senator. about 2,000 people year-round we added another 100,000 between the winter visitors and migrant type workforce that comes to help with our agricultural. what's interesting about the experience i talked about as being part of the highway, the human trafficking highway because the people that are being trafficked, those that are coming through are not staying. they are heading to massachusetts, florida, to other states and we don't experience issues in the schools or any of
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that. we do experience things that the hospitals where when a migrant is apprehended by border patrol and needs medical care they are brought to the hospital. while in 2019, it was nearly a million dollars worth of medical care provided. local hospitals only reimbursed a third of that so that means the taxpayers are carrying the other two thirds when they receive medical care. the nonprofits do an amazing job to take care of those people coming through. that has realigned a lot of the profits to make sure that they are handling the busloads of people that they receive daily to make sure that they are transported to airports in the region for their final destinations if you will. so, locally border patrol agents do an amazing job and the agents while they are not local or
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there's very few local. they are able to keep the community safe, so there is no cross-border violence associated. we receive a lot of negative perceptions. so companies that we look to invest in the community haven't invested. visitors who might come to the community with a hotel that's already taken out of the infrastructure. they are difficult to quantify in the dollar amount but to create an environment that makes it less hospitable, less confidence in what's happening in the border so we work hard to make sure we are overcoming those elements. >> so if there is a rollcall iff
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we want to start rotating to vote. >> going back to the administration isn't standing behind the agents talking about the other issues. how big of a problem is that going to be? do you anticipate in exodus of major shortage? i think there's a shortage of people more miles of the border open. >> i will start. i talked to many officers within and just the requirement for the vaccination they will lose hundreds if they continue in the position they are currently in.
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that is a part of my written statement. this isn't the mistake that's going on in the border. it is and mismanagement or incompetence. it's open border by design. there is no national security without border security. there is no homeland security without border security and there is no border security without enforcement because the 600,000 released in this administration are a priority. they are not a priority and i will tell you why. that number is pretty close to zero. then the same memorandum the recent border crossers our priorities and give a list of equities you must take into consideration. the memo says straight out being in the country illegally is not
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legal. it no longer warrants a removal so the secretary completely ignores the law passed by congress. it's clear when we have the highest numbers of illegal crossings in this country the same month we had the lowest number in the history of the agency. it's been abolished. not to the agencies but the abolished mission so hundreds of thousands have come across this country will never leave. just one data point i want to explain if you look at the executive office approximately 89% of the family units from central america who claim asylum, 89% lose their case, nine out of ten because you don't show up in court or they don't qualify and now the hundreds of thousands that nine out of ten, how many leaves? the lifecycle report.
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so this is by design. many with covid and criminal histories that are never going to leave. if i may, senators with with the former director said i can tell you in my area of massachusetts and in officer walked in the other day and said he put his badge on the desk to a supervisor and his weapon and said i'm all done. i didn't get into this business to be a social worker and standing in rope lines outside of the facility. between 13 and 30 agents every day spending their time logging the people in the reporting over the border. it's worth pointing out and was mentioned earlier and these
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other federal agencies that are partners with us. why would anyone particularly in this administration that took the same oath of public trust uphold the law the most fundamental responsibility to protect the citizens of the nation to say you know what, i know if you continue working with fbi and so forth but not i.c.e., people would be less safe in your neighborhoods. that's what the people of this administration have done. when he was in the administration i can tell you firsthand in a meeting with other sheriff's and at that meeting we were talking about exactly what was going on with regards to then the things pouring in over the border and the impact on the communities across the nation. so for him to look the american people in the eye time and again and lie to them and say there's
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no problem there and it's no less safe than it was under the trump administration is a blatant lie and he knows it and it's calculated and the last thing i will say with regards to the importance of this wall that they've decided not to do anything with, one question needs to be asked. do you believe that the walls work? people aren't getting in and people aren't getting out. why wouldn't it work down there? it's one that i'm sure he's not going to be able to honestly answer. >> i want to address this specific question. i am worried. even before i retired, the increase in retirements that were voluntary, not mandatory were increasing. the dialogue about the agents i
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love my job, the border patrol agents are highly trained, highly professional patriots. but when they see the secretary of homeland security and even the president of the united states take due process and throw it in a trashcan for a political event like the issue in del rio and then immediately show that they are willing to sacrifice federal law enforcement agents that have given up their entire career to keep this country safe, they start looking at their families and how do they explain to their wife and kids that this is a worthwhile endeavor and they are putting their lives at risk every single day. now on top of that you have the vaccine mandate, and i've taken hundreds of phone calls asking for advice. a lot of the agents chose to get the vaccine once it was finally provided to them. but they are dealing with people and releasing in front of them they are releasing thousands of people day in some cases into the u.s. with no vaccine and now they are being mandated to get a
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vaccine that for whatever personal reason they may not want to get where they are going to lose their job. so we are at a had rode here we have serious problems and we are going to lose a lot of very dedicated and professional border personnel, i.c.e. and officers if we are not careful and it does worry me. .. >> the will do anything for them. anything for them. you don't have to agree with them but as long as you trust him and have confidence in them, the united states
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border patrol, cbp, i.c.e., they have zero confidence in the secretary. as the secretary stood on the grounds of dario and that the borders are closed. and at the very moment literally 20000 haitians were under the bridge in del rio coming to the united states unimpeded sat down to establish a camp and not apprehended simply waiting to be apprehended and then to say and then back to mexico and then illegally entered back into united states while the
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secretary was literally saying our borders are secure. at the same time there was a five day period because they have 30000 haitians and others every singular border patrol list hold off the line 224 miles one of nine on the southwest border virtually on patrol than unmanned for several days. so when the secretary gets out there in says things like that, that every man and woman have no trust and confidence. when he acts as judge and jury and executioner as a former prosecutor as an affront to every prosecutor in the country that he publicly became judge jury executioner. and trashed and vilified them and found them guilty without any do process. across-the-board so morale is
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all an all-time historic low. >> too many believe he has lied to the american people? he has to resign. i asked him would you comply with a lot? absolutely we provide all the information i want? absolutely. and then to lie to the american people i watched your questioning. you asked him three simple questions how many removed and have been released or detained into even get into the details of unaccompanied minors or how
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many single adults. as the commissioner to help create those documents the chief used to say and calling him every single day about the data the secretary has the data he is directly lied to you or intentionally stuck his head in the sand both are unconscionable and should be removed. >> we finally got the answers half a million people have been dispersed. any other questions from the media? we will keep this flexible this is good information. >> there has been a lot of talk of late-night flights
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from the my grand border and also be supported that isis released numerous adults from field offices only four more migrants to be transported to the field offices taking up in detention facilities how the government can handle the rush one —- all the people that are coming? >> what would be helpful is what is the process why is border patrol sending people to my state? why don't they tell me what they are doing? you get across the border where you want to go? here is your ticket to get there. >> first of all the reason the
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flights are in the middle of the night because the administration is hiding what they are doing this administration has been lying to the american people since the and of january. the president has lied to the american people what is going on and secretary my work is constantly lies. they know that the american public more aware of what is happening the more improper the program becomes a living children in the middle of the night make sense and thank god somebody finally got on videotape this is not even saying since january that is $600,000 just border patrol there is still i.c.e. at the border of political appointees. i worked with i.c.e. for decades when i was the director, i was the director and iran operations. however now the director has no authority. political appointees are running the law enforcement
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agencies. and activation in miami immigration activist in miami she wrote the policy for i.c.e. and what they can and cannot do. i know that because i got a copy of the memo she didn't take her name off of it. i.c.e. is being run by that chief of staff was a political appointee. the flight is just another example the administration when they promised us to be truthful to the american people and be open with what they are doing. >> let's use the 500,000 number provided to us by dhs. how do they all get there?
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just walk us through half a million people. >> i can address that under the trump administration we had a surge what did we do? we detained people and build detention facilities and family residential centers. we want to shut down private prisons and then it went these people. they have multimillion dollar countries with ngos all over the country instead of turning them over to a stable fly then to illinois or florida and to the ngos who will care for them and get them reunited with families and parents who paid to get them to the united states. >> so the ngos know but not necessarily the state and local governments.
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>> we are the most visible entity that the border patrol is not shipping people to any state you have limited options once you identify criminal activity. you really release them with something or you detained them or in the case of border patrol you deport them. the only reason that we get to the point we are today is that when you shut down all of your detention and you dramatically reduce your ability to actually deport people it is an introduction agency. we do not own or have mass in detention facilities and these terms mean something a processing facility is just
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that. computers, short-term holding no beds or food is not designed to keep people their long-term border patrol has been criticized over and over i don't know how many years for detaining people in these conditions for too long. that's because the rest of the system is backed up so minute arrest anyone and processes them, the other piece of that is very important the border patrol agent is now patrolling the border so to process for someone immigration it is the full process about two hours. you can quickly do the math to see why that cartel once mass numbers of people because that two hours of agent time taking away from the border create these big gaps. >> so they are not being detained. i was on the flight in my role
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i had three adults and three children. they all had envelopes that i do not speak english. very nice and polite and beautiful children. but when we were down there we were told the goal was eight hours a processing time. >> that is what is happening going with the family. break it up. families and then unaccompanied minors because the majority of single adults are removed if you come to the border with the family, no documents none of that is relevant right now. so you'll come in be processed within a certain number of hours and then border patrol will be released into local communities and a charitable organizations or ngos.
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that is subsidized from the federal government to give further medical attention. so whatever the migrant wants to go the illegal alien wants to go. >> we have no idea where they are going. >> correct. >> other than i catholic charity that gets. >> funding and they should be but after that we lose all control we have no idea other than they have a notice to appear for those three. >> correct. >> that is a new thing. that nine out of ten of you will be denied. so now to move all of the country because the valley is
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overrun. ivan down to the border four times since january every time we get a fight out of the rio grande valley it is taxpayer-funded immigrants with tickets to their destination. that the federal government will be complicit and with regard to the crime and the games. if that's in violation of the law with every sheriff is elected by the people of this country to represent the entire country, anyone that has moved into any county of any sheriff one or more that sheriff should be notified before they arrive if they go to the ngo and they decide they will move them then that
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is responsible but we don't have the trail that we need they need to know. how many hotels are we renting at the expense of the taxpayer? where are they and how many people? our job with boots on the ground working with our partners is to make sure where people are in the community so we can protect them covering the set by the administration and there in lies our problem. >> and what should happen the reality is right now that we have no idea half a million people i hate to see apprehended but they were processed and is pierced another 400,000 known got away but with those unknown got
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away? >> they got away estimate is based on situational awareness and tracking and it's a pretty good educated estimate. >> but that is the known got away. >> but i would disagree that we have no idea because there is a paper trail. you have to did pretty deep through the layers that the contractors know how many people they are dealing with. because they are paid in part by the federal government to deal with it. and when they arrive the expectation is they will be picked up in the local i.c.e. office. so the share that actually do show up. >> do you know what that is
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quick. >> you can request is to be 13 percent but now from what i'm hearing from contacts at i.c.e. the numbers actually much higher now because they have the opportunity to get a work permit that opens the door to her drivers license and employment and benefits so there is a trail that can be followed. >> with a certain percentage. used to be 13 percent but now employment benefits with refugee or the parolee benefits or afghanistan refugees people are signing up. >> i have identify the unaccompanied minors but there are 15 counties in the country that have received 30 percent of those migrants.
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it is fair to say the larger population that includes families as well will be roughly the same houston, dallas, long island, the dc suburbs, miami-dade county, palm beach county and nashville. we have an idea of where they are and how many. but dhs should be pressed to provide more details. >> i see them on planes and we have a sense of where they are. but those 50 percent of those addresses that are given at the border are not correct. >> is not shocking. any other questions? >> by the way to go down the
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line right now in order and those is the best way to stay on the same topic at the same time. >> i'm often asked to provide my perspective on border security. it's incredibly important but the premise of how we look at these topics are generally misleading and uninformed and with that binary choice among the american people is the environment as the reality is no are ignored as we are worse fed that justify that mean argument american people are intentionally misled that the policies responsible for the worst crisis at the southern border in modern history are
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separate and distinct from the ability to secure the borders from anyone doing harm that is a lie. the reality is when policies open the border to incentivize and encourage facilitate illegal immigration they also are vulnerable to the vast and complex set of ever-changing threats facing our nation. these threats are not mutually exclusive. they are interconnected. discussing illegal immigration it is essential how it is synonymous with border security and corresponding erosion the rule of law and to the nation sovereignty and explores every gap and will pull your masters at exploitation strengthening the capacity for morning activity expands their ability to facilitate such as human
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trafficking drugs and criminal aliens in the united states the images this past couple of weeks of heavily armed cartel members with us law enforcement personnel in broad daylight sending gunfire into the dead of night. just how emboldened today have become. the common centrality it is the power of the cartel with a wide spectrum of threats impacting every aspect of safety health the national security the biden administration dismantled every tool we have in place and a network of policies and initiatives regaining integrity and immigration a system and effectively reduce the fall of illegal aliens resulted unprecedented
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agreements to provide the resources for the men and women on the frontlines to increase capacity to secure our borders the biden administration inherited the most secure borders in the nations history and turned into a national security catastrophe overnight my frustration doesn't stem only from the fact they reopen the loopholes making borders more vulnerable it's continuing my every step of the way that watching the current administration provide their version of what's happening on the southern border. for reshaping history and intentionally driving false narratives enforcing the american people for the misleading binary choices and
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so to further divide us as a nation. 's secretary mayorkas continues to say the borders are close but it is unequivocal light and he knows it. it is a feeble attempt to deflect responsibility to downplay the severity of the crisis to convince the american people everything is under control it is all a lie. talking about what happened in del rio wages and extreme quintessential example of what has happened 224 miles of the border went on patrol that is the secretary said the border was secure but that is just a microcosm as it spirals out of control between 40 and 50 percent of border patrol agents are pulled off the frontlines forced to the
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national security mission were professional facilitators of illegal aliens in the united states the extraordinary amount of cbp resources are required to have care with the under resourced agency resulting in large areas of the border to leave borders dangerously vulnerable it is anticipated this calendar year to surpass 2 million encounters the highest on record the three times the size of the state of vermont calendar your encounters will be three times higher than the state of vermont during fiscal year the secretary is directed the release of 600,000 illegal aliens in the united states. the message is clear illegal entering borders as a family covid without documents to have the false asylum claim is okay according to the secretary which should terrify every american as a direct result of the open border policies more than 400,000
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illegal aliens have escaped apprehension is fiscal year and tuesday night otherwise is naïve but with the environment that drives the narrative rather than facts and then to jump out screaming me i am a racist and a fearmonger putting there had deep in the sand and the reality is there are criminals breaking into our country and its many that are convicted that are considered dangerous predators they apprehended 53 convicted illegal aliens for homicide. but the open border policy carried out by the chief architect the borders are less secure in the country is less
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safe. the threats we face make their way into every town and city and state in the country and i think the panelists have made that clear. the secretary of dhs is very quick to vilify and ruin the careers and reputation of men and women he puts into harms way to navigate that catastrophe she has created to publicly act as judge and jury and executioner without a single element of due process is also willing to remove the same agents for failure to be vaccinated while he welcomes illegal aliens nor is mandated to get the same and then set our sincere to continue to demand accountability we cannot be swayed by ideological hubris for political power ronald reagan said it best the nation that cannot control its borders.
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>> i want to be clear i will discuss border security in the us border patrol forces immigration law and it is not simply an immigration and agency in the traditional use of the term and to ensure that anyone or anything entering this country does so legally and as i addressed in the house leadership dated september 11 i am extremely concerned by the avoidable and rapid disintegration in the history of a nation.
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and with the transnational criminal organization by border patrol by the criminals and terrorists and those that can be developed over decades of those experienced career professionals i fully understand after working for multiple administrations the political to prioritize differently however i am extremely concerned a selective information that they are at best misleading and then to withhold completely and then to provide any transparency with the
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threats that are crossing the border and heading to your stay and your city and town. these threats just stay at the border. in my professional opinion the highly publicized public statements that the current administration is even failed to acknowledge the crisis exist or to demonstrate any meaningful effort to secure borders it is not an immigration issue but a national security threat. and then to know who and what is in the homeland at least century 20th 2021 unsophisticated smugglers are illegally crossing the border and evading arrest every day. in layman's terms they are getting away. with over several decades the
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border patrol as a security strategy with a key aspect eliminating barriers commonly referred to as a wall or agent mobility and technology and intelligence and for example to initiate the installation with 12 miles of border wall system and increase operational effectiveness from 10 percent to 90 percent while reducing the manpower requirement every 24 hours by 150 agents that is a good return on your investment in my opinion the united states border patrol improving effectiveness with said data analytics systems with the intelligence reporting system and mission advantage these were poised to allow
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management to prioritize deployment and urgency further enhancing border security and doing some more efficiently again with a better return on investment for the taxpayer it affirmative homeland security department of state and justice also work together to build partnerships with immigration fostering international relations beyond the united states key program sought to enhance legitimate asylum opportunities while dramatically reducing asylum fraud and expedited the removal fully adjudicated aliens and as a result those combined initiatives and they were combined not a silver bullet they were more secure more than at any time in the entire career my staff and i brief that transition teams
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and we strongly advise them against rescinding these programs and we told them clearly doing so would result in a mass migration and degrade order security to further be compounded because of covid-19 and all the issues these recommendations were completely ignored as a direct result a highly visible immigration crisis but i need to highlight there is a less visible national security threat as agents and the public are distracted in dell rio there were undetermined i cannot tell you we know there were 400,000 events but there is other documentation so we all while we are distracted on
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the haitians in the wheel how much and know. seen cross the border i also want to highlight what happened in del rio happening every day across the southwest border not just del rio there's hundreds of miles of on patrol border and long-term systemic damage that could be taking years so what do i mean by that investments of data analytics and processes used to document have been sidelined with their process transport and care for the was newly arriving every single day instead of spending that tax dollars to the proven border wall system with the advanced technology they are
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paying companies not to build anything so mainstream releases the contractor from any long-term liability and shifts the entire liability any unfunded requirement to the united states border patrol and then with the gaps of vulnerabilities that they can secure it was perpetually overwhelmed to lack the situational awareness to have any level of confidence who and what was in the homeland the biden administration is fully aware of the threats but they refused to acknowledge them the secretary is choosing to ignore the sound leadership even though he says he agrees just like your personal home if you do not knowing cannot control who and what enters your home, you have a homeland
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security. that the present administration with a total disregard those laws written by congress of the president not only are they ignoring the laws that they are actively violating the law i am working with the attorney general state of texas we are three / zero because he violated the law in court and more is to come i have great respect for those witnesses and they should be honored i am here today with 35 years enforcing all aspects of immigration law and then to a special agent with a large scale complex human trafficking drug trafficking cross-border crimes for large large-scale immigration fraud in the latter career the
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international program responsible for the dissension of aliens waiting for the hearing for the immigration judge and annette will resolve the removal all aliens were removed after extensive process and in my career as the first acting director of i.c.e. coming up to the ranks because of my extensive i have every aspect of immigration enforcement my hands-on experience is just as important as what doesn't almost 35 years of service and each other own policies and then to intentionally destroyed every president wanted to secure border but
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there is for this to come into the office for those to be more cross-border crimes and with a one.7 million important encounters so it resulted in unprecedented drugs being smuggled and then to understand you cannot have homeland security for the national security it will not and cannot happen i read the statements and i agree 100 percent so i will spend my limited time on interior enforcement there can be no border security especially at a time especially when their
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fraudulent claims the immigration court shows nearly 90 percent of americans that have claimed asylum simply don't get relief from the us courts because they don't qualify or they don't show up and what happens to those nine out of ten that are removed on average only three or 6 percent actually depart as ordered what is the penalty for the hundreds of thousands of family units that in turn in violation of law and to ignore a judge's order they will get amnesty and they will be rewarded this ridiculous cycle does nothing but bring more illegal aliens tour border the secretary has sent out a new priority memorandum it is here with me. outlines the priorities for enforcement to be in the country illegally is no longer a sole reason for the
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immigration officer to make an arrest so deploy in the middle of a crisis that falls in line with the open border design so the secretary sent out a memo that sends the fact the individuals a removable noncitizen so it is no longer illegal and with those security threat that is not another priority in practice no matter what the memo says. that they have arrested in the interior and that is close to zero so that is close to zero
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so they are not really priorities if they are not a court date. with those got away that i.c.e. is not looking for if actually show up in court in the staircase based on recent data again 90 percent but it's most likely no enforcement action is taken because under the same memorandum guidance that went out is not a priority and a policy must consider equity criminal record community involvement by the time the case and between three and five years they could have citizenship or be established in some fashion so once again they are immune from immigration law enforcement this is by design not a mistake of policy this administration is exactly what they are doing because in
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three to five years they have us citizen child so why did you remove that father? because he was ordered removed and he had out for five years and he had kids now he is a meal. i say based on the secretary's memorandum shutdown immigration court. he said it a final order of removal does not mean anything anymore. i.c.e. officers, there are 700,000 through due process those were ordered removed by a federal judge and i.c.e. cannot arrest them those orders will not be executed so mindful shutdown immigration courts as far as public safety threats this administration came into power at 91 percent last year of everybody i.c.e. arrested were convicted criminals are pending criminal charges.
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nine out of ten with this administration to not think that was good enough almost 85 percent of those arrested last year 85 percent of the 91 percent cannot be arrested this year because the crimes are not significant enough. because now you must be convicted of the most serious crimes if you are ms 13 member arrested in new york for raping a child then you can post find, even though you are in the country illegally. you are a gang member. rested for raping a child. even though you have environment order issued you ignored years ago, i.c.e. will not touch you under this policy. at a time we see unprecedented illegal immigration isis in the fewest removals in the history of the agency the memo justifies these priorities because they call it limited resources. that bureaucratic language we
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have to do this for limited resources is lie and fy 12 i.c.e. arrested and removed 409,000 arrested and removed. today with no officers or judges to be short of 100,000 so they are doing 25 percent of the work and then limited resources. so now one officer averages one arrest every six weeks when these to stay in the l.a. county jail to process 20 per day and one shift now we have zero. so some form guidance or consequence and then to
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violate our allies to serve the political future with those future democratic voters to remain in power and in addition to cancel contracts and then to 55000 people in custody now there's 20000. but most have been released to the ngo with multimillion dollar contracts who are friend of the biden administration. they and worksite enforcement policy the number one reason they come to united states is to get a job in the middle of the biggest crisis the secretary says they can no longer have workforce operations they are trying to stop this. this is throwing another enticement but then to throat talk about amnesty and reconciliation so instead of taking action to save lives to
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shut down the criminal cartel and a 92000 with the opioid overdose they just keep the ring out more and more. it is disgusting even they recently had rewritten final guidance and then to write the asylum rules somewhere people qualify so let's be clear. this administration has sold out the safety and security of this country a right to be a sovereign nation and the right to have a secure border for that political ideology. thank you. >> sheriff nichols? >> i appreciate the promotion. it's an honor to be a sheriff. thank you for the opportunity today to discuss the situation on the border. located on the colorado river
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people may not be aware. is along the southern border of mexico adjacent to california us border patrol located along 126 miles border 119 miles is completing fencing system leading 7 miles of fence 55 border gates and finished and then to have ill legal events larger than normal number of crossings in 2014 and now 2021 each time the situation gets worse the 2014 event has the lowest numbers of apprehensions and in 2019 the yuma sector intercepted 20000 individuals the vast majority from central america it lasted three through four months so far
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over 113,000 apprehensions from 80 different countries the volume this year is the second largest since the yuma has kept those records the largest number 2005 that crested at 145,000 apprehensions. the border patrol agents and customs officials and iced agents and with those limited numbers and personnel committed to the effort. and then national security is paramount the yuma is a community with no border crime no thanks to their unrelenting efforts. and then impacting in various ways. regular system of providing transfer to removal operation
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and with a transnational criminal organization but it does i go through a regular process to be released into the community and in 20195200 people were released into a temporary shelter system in yuma of a community of 100,000 at the beginning of the 2021 event we have a couple hundred people released to the streets of different cities within the first two weeks the local ngo steps up receiving those that are released to help transport to regional airports in a 200-mile radius from yuma a nonprofit has a contract with i.c.e. has a hotel located in yuma dedicated to holding families that are to be released to transportation
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options there was a question of cost. $365 per day per person to hold migrants at the hotel and since every room has a family there is at least two people per room $700 a day for food and housing. and with the ngo system is not sustainable and then those would begin in the yuma community. and with the use of migrants level the cost of the services one third of the cost by the us government. the other two thirds are reimbursed by the taxpayers in yuma the agricultural field adjacent to the border and
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then with the food safety rules unusable for human consumption not only is that a loss to the farmer who is taken a risk to plant the field but those that are paid on a per piece basis then with the crops to harvest so those are difficult to quantify those that are taken out of community resources or facilities like endeavors those that supported eating at restaurants and purchasing goods and local stores are lost. and those paint a picture of chaos and unsafe situations with investment and economic engagement and poor communities so that diversion of resources from nonprofit could be reimbursed by fema still take away from the needs of our communities lack of planning and a holistic level
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causes fear in the local communities situations like the cancellation of remain in mexico policy or without a plan for those that were experienced as a result drive the fear. these situations bring valid concerns about the planning for future dell boe events or the end of the pandemic and the revision of titles 42 this is a federal issue not a local issue. the brunt of the cost of illegal immigration needs to be carried by all the communities across the nation not just small local border communities we need to stop order one —- overburdening local cities. thank you. >> so why so much per day? who is setting that fee? >> i have not done that research but i understand it was a contract with dhs and
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that was the rate i don't know how that procured but that time period or that contract time period is coming to a close later this year so there will be a new procurement process but the contract itself had a value of 86 million. >> i can answer that question. those who never detain people in their lives got $86 million contract and right after that they got half a billion dollar contract from hhs so $365 per night and then reimbursing $100 a night but again shutting down i.c.e. detention are rewarding companies like endeavors. >> that is per person you can
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go rent a room for $100 give them some boxed lunches and make a lot of money per person per day you have got to love government. >> i have a scheduled appointment i could not change her have to ryan and do that and come back hopefully i can get a chance to hear from you but i want to make a couple of comments. mayor, talk about title 42 is hasn't, much today but it's on the mind of every border patrol agent that at some point title 42 will go away this pandemic last longer than we helped but it will go away and one of the changes that they made with the biden administration is to say we will never apply title 422 kids are families or even individuals but most are being turned back and people know that because of title 41 —- 42 it will not be there so if you
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look at the numbers and what we heard today with the largest number of apprehensions and 35 years, it will not get better and by the way it usually gets better in the summer because the top and it has gotten worse. want to make that point you talked earlier about the h2 a program coming in under proper legal channels and by the landscape to greenhouses and someone united states of america is the most generous country in the world in terms of legal immigration. we haven't talked about that today but the context should be we are very generous country every one of us here are the children or grandchildren and great-grandchildren of immigrants. we are proud of that. it's not that we say we don't
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want immigrants. we are seeing do it in a legal, proper, humane, safeway. we talked about trafficking earlier they don't give a darn about these people and sexual assaults that are occurring on the border, i know some of the sexual assaults because it is inhumane what is happening so i went to make those points and finally there is an issue about other countries that has come up today and we talk about how mexico asked to do more with that ability i have a different perspective i think texaco is pretty darn helpful when mexico guatemala ecuador and colombia a couple months ago i talked to all four presidents of those countries and when asked in some voluntarily said the same thing they don't want their people coming illegally to our country. they don't they are using some of their young people they believe our system has uphold
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factor we talk about push factors sure and by the way more than half of the immigrants are now not coming from the northern triangle countries to put in another $4 billion after two.six i'm not against that but it will not solve the problem it will solve the problem is yes economic development that the pull factors have to be addressed and that is what you say in effect today we have so many pull factors now in specifically senator johnson noses i think the asylum system is totally broken creating a narrative for these traffickers and these people who are exploiting the families not just central america but other countries to say if you get to the border you are in. pastor thousand dollars. they are right. so until we deal with policy
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changes and we have gone over some of these today with title 42 is one of those that will change again, we will not feel in control of this issue. thank you for going over this today want to bring this up is not that we don't want immigrants but we want them to come the proper way and continue to enrich our country and i will be back. >> sheriff. >> thank you senator. >> as part of the county for 25 years and elected to represent public safety interest of 600,000 people in southeastern massachusetts over two decades working with leaders on immigration law and reforms going back to the bipartisan bill to protect my communities from the harms of immigration takes the
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southwest border to the statehouse local town hall meetings illegal immigration is a critical public safety issue in every corner of every state from public safety to healthcare, education and municipal finance it is no different in the impact of public safety is en masse assault and battery on a child identity theft aggravated assault and battery assault and battery on a household member drug possession, class b larceny and rate those of the charges pressed for those in bristol county almost one illegal immigrant every week arrested brought to the house for corrections for purely
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political hatchet job by the biden administration but the department of homeland security it terminated my long-standing partnership with customs enforcement in may and i believe the only sheriff's office in the country who have the facility average of 220 detainees we were holding on average every day. without any state money. 600,000 on average in our facility. >> approximately it could fluctuate some of them are brought in from rhode island but it provided the detention that was needed so among those initiatives lost that allow the specially trained officers
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after they were arrested in our communities so without that he program two of those that were arrested this summer were bio on —- bailed out the price could apprehend them and then who knows where doing who knows what with i.c.e. actively looking they would be behind bars in my community would be safer if we start a partnership with i.c.e. there is no debating that also no debating the simple fact every crime committed by an illegal alien is a crime that never would have happened if that alien was not in the country to begin with. single mom sabrina da silva would be alive today if not gun down by twice to forwarded illegal alien a few years ago and as a result now left a two -year-old angel child.
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christopher mills would still be alive today if not run down on his motorcycle by an illegal alien driving a box truck a few years ago. and that could be alive if he was not run over and drag to his death in massachusetts a community that experience three deaths by illegal aliens in two years the list goes on and on and off to mention all the people who died with the opioid overdose in 202232 people suffered fatal overdoses in bristol county almost 2000 over the last decade these drugs are pouring in over the border as we have more and more flood into the neighborhoods those with 10 percent of mothers whose babies were born in bristol county. . . . .
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and in closing, i would just refer back to something senator portman said when he was speaking. he said i want to thank you for what you are doing, for going out and speaking publicly about the difficult tragedies that you
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had to endure. the difference between senator portman recognizing that and the acknowledgment of this with the biden administration is the message from the biden administration is you know what, the loss of your children didn't matter then and the loss of the children going forward tomorrow and the next day and the next that we all know are going to happen, whether it's drug overdoses or god forbid, the kind of violent deaths that these children have seen by these mobs to continue. it's time. thank you, senators. >> thank you, sheriff. is vaughan. >> thank you. i just want to add some more detail to some of the points that i mentioned earlier in my brief statement.
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on the costs to the states and local communities that can be identified, and as florida did, you can see they are staggering and it's possible to identify them. and i think every state should be doing this kind of exercise. in fact the federal government should be doing that kind of exercise. but there's some things i can report to you this afternoon. aside from the fiscal costs, i think the most consequential costs to communities is the disruption to the labor market because the illegal border crossers are coming primarily to work. i estimate that since january this border crisis probably has added more than a 700,000 new workers to the labor market, counting both the caught and released migrants and they got a ways. and they tend to be concentrated in certain parts of the country, primarily affecting those labor markets. and they can identify the
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counties that were about 15% where the new migrants settled that and includes houston, the metro area, long island and palm beach, los angeles, nashville and charlotte. some of the asylum-seekers are able to get permits but since so many of them do not file applications they end up working in illegally competing directly with less educated workers and especially teens who are already some of the most marginalized and have suffered the most from the shutdowns and consumer price inflation. studies show the presence of illegal workers and the lack of consequences for those who hire them is a double for the marginalized workers. it's fewer job opportunities and lower wages.
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i estimate 300,000 just this year coming alone or with their parents. and again they are concentrated in certain areas. so, there are plenty of school systems that know that this is a problem for them and that know where some of the migrants are settling and it is a strain on them. the national average per pupil spending is over $13,000 in 2021. so, this is going to cost state and local taxpayers approximately $4 billion just for the current school year, just for those that have arrived this year. and that's not counting the additional services like language support, counseling, parental education and gang prevention programs that the schools now need. the issue is not a small one. roughly 30% of the ms 13 members that have been arrested in recent years originally arrived here as unaccompanied minors and the transnational gangs were
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quick to take advantage of the lenient policies and shut down to grow the ranks here. medical care is another big ticket item that is hoisted onto the states. the migrants that can access the publicly funded safety net services for emergency and pediatric and maternity care, according to one of my sources about 30% of the female migrants who come in illegally will have a child the first couple of years they are here and that unlocks access to even more entitlement payments. so, in addition to the emergency services, the migrants can also use the subsidized community health care centers that provide the full range of medical services to all uninsured regardless of their status. determining the cost is very complicated, but it likely comes to more than $500 million a year just for the ones who've arrived this year. and i am basing that on
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disclosures from other states that have identified those disclosures. involved in the settlement of the illegal migrants, the responsibility for the long term welfare assistance will be automatically assumed by state and local governments. and the range of services vary from place to place, but it can be a lot and it includes sometimes child care, preschools, housing, food and even legal assistance sometimes. other people have covered the criminal justice cost and that is a problem not only because of the criminals coming in, but at the additional drug trafficking that we've talked about. and importantly, as said, the dramatically fewer number of deportations that are occurring now i recently had a four-year request answered by i.c.e. on the deportations going up
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including to 2021, and there've been 70% fewer since january. with the new enforcement priorities. but i also wanted to mention the problems with of the crimes directly related to the border policies and that is the insidious human trafficking that is absolutely enabled and facilitated by the biden policies. the placement of minors in households without due diligence or meaningful background checks and failing to conduct welfare checks is guaranteed to lead to disasters like the recent case we heard about in alabama and oregon with dozens of teens who came with unaccompanied minors released directly to labor traffickers, which as we know, it would not meet the standards of any state child welfare placement laws. and really, states should start insisting that these placements be done in accordance with state law. not much has changed in the five years since the senate already
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investigated this. in the face of these enormous costs, some states are starting to take action on their own, notably florida governor, texas governor abbott and south carolina governor mcmaster. but they need the help of congress to see that the laws that you pass are actually enforced but there are also some things you can do to assist the states and helped mitigate the costs. >> thank you. [inaudible] i am here before you today is a bereaved mother and cofounder of the fentanyl awareness coalition. we are a nonprofit organization comprised of three families fighting to raise awareness of a paradigm shift which has occurred in the opioid crisis and to educate the public on its devastating effects from countless families that have lost their loved ones.
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the first question many may have is why is this woman committed to raising awareness about a new paradigm sitting in a border crisis meeting, and i am here to tell you about the single worst problem caused by the current border policies. a problem that dwarfs all the other border problems we are talking about today and we've made possible by the paradigm shift i've referred to in the beginning of 2013. go back to 2013 and next year, china began the mass manufacturing illicit fentanyl to gain a foothold into the u.s. markets. we saw the results of that begin to emerge when the heroin -related deaths began skyrocketing. that was the paradigm shift. but the point for today's meeting is what happened near or to the southern border in 2018. and what was that? china's decision under the u.s. pressure to cease all manufacturing. instead, they began mass
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manufacturing the precursors for the illicit fentanyl and that opened the door to the world's greatest illicit drug marketers in the world in mexico who were never considered leading manufacturers previously. those experts recognized that in the u.s. it was a diffuse market which would increase the market share by orders of magnitude. those used by severe substance disorder is a market of approximately 3 million users at the very highest and. those who illicitly use opioid pills or may take a pill in some manner comprise the market of approximately 50 million people, which includes millions of innocent people who may take a pill just one time ever in their
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lives. therefore, the death curve that was increasing more than 50 years has gone completely up nonlinear because it includes hundreds of thousands of non-addicted users including a 20-year-old from new jersey. amanda gray, a 24-year-old college student from new york. devon loring, a 19-year-old from california. mckenzie bail, and another 19-year-old from oregon. my daughter, tiffany, and countless others. our coalition represents thousands of family members and advocates across the country who want you to know that their children did not overdose. they were poisoned. when someone disguises a harmful substance or puts it into anything another person consumes without their knowledge, that is a poisoning. it's not an overdose. many of those dying today never intended to consume a illicit
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fentanyl, yet we continue to mislabel them as overdoses rather than what they are, illicit fentanyl poisoning through counterfeit bills. rehabilitation programs, needle exchanges and methadone clinics will not help these victims. the federal government spends $35 billion a year on this crisis. arguably the total national spending on the crisis is likely close to a trillion dollars of economic activity, yet not one program currently in place is reaching this new group of the non-addicted at risk which is the fastest growing part of the death curve that has gone off the rails. what can we do for them? there are only two things. first, we can stop the illicit fentanyl from getting to them and that is what we are here about today. the first step to solving this is a border problem is by recognizing that this is by far the single worst problem we are facing because of the current border crisis because of this
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impact on families directly. second, we can warn them. this is the main purpose of the fentanyl coalition. this population will be receptive to the prevention and for one reason. they are not suffering from the substance abuse disorder. we have a lot of great ideas on how to reach them and we could really use your support. so i'm asking everyone today to please help us stop this illicit fentanyl and launch a level of awareness and prevention campaigns so that our kids have a fighting chance. young people should learn from their mistakes. they shouldn't die from them. >> let me ask a couple of questions. i've seen the video of a police officer in the trunk with the fumes or the powders. we heard about dogs, drug sniffing dogs dying. what is the purpose where they
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actually manufacture a fake capsule that looks like percocet or something else. why does that kill people and why are they doing it? >> there's a few theories on why they do it but i think the one that seems to make the most sense in addiction and otherwise healthy people -- >> but if it is pure fentanyl it kills people immediately? >> not necessarily. of the pills tested, 40% have had a lethal amount. that means 60% of them didn't. and so you can get -- the biggest problem is they are not a mix. the fentanyl put in, they are mixing it in blenders and batches. >> it's not 100%. >> right. every batch is going to have lethal amounts of pills. why are they counterfeiting them and making them look like
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something else? it's pretty clear that most people aren't going to just, who don't have an addiction problem are going to just take a fentanyl pill. so, what do they do, they start putting it in cocaine and ecstasy and traditionally nonlethal substances. they started making these pills that look like xanax or adderall or percocet. what they are doing is now for instance alexander in california, 15-years-old, couldn't understand why he got one xanax because he was worried about exams and now he wants more and more and he doesn't understand how that happened. he shouldn't have gotten that rabbit of an addiction if it were real xanax. he didn't get a lethal dose but it was enough to begin an addiction. >> i am a legal immigrant who followed the law to come here
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and i assimilated and became a naturalized citizen. my only child, dominic, was not only my best friend and the love of my life but he was also well respected, contributing member of society, a caring and hard-working 911 communication officer for the riverside sheriff's department in california. and he was a best friend to everybody he ever met. he not only worked long hours saving many lives but he studied to become a motorcycle officer for the police department and then wanted to become a helicopter pilot for the same agency. he also volunteered for the local fire department and emergency response force. dominic was only 30 years young, already accomplished so much, had huge dreams, and enjoying life to the fullest and making me so happy and very proud. he was the best prankster and had a laugh and personality that would light up the room. his future was bright and
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promising but sadly, on 7-12@5:45 a.m., his life and dreams ended and my nightmares began. as he was riding his motorcycle to work, an unlicensed illegal alien from guatemala with two felony convictions, one deportation, two duis that he received probation for, turned his truck in front of my son hitting him so hard that it killed dominic instantly. the first responders couldn't work the scene once they realized it was their friend who laid their dead and highway patrol had to be called to take over. i was out of town and received that one phone call every parent fears. my precious dominic, my one and only was dead and gone forever. the very last time i got to see and touch my child was in the morgue, where i kissed him for the last time while trying to figure out how to continue to
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live life without him. the dream of one day spoiling grandkids, flying with him and going on more fun adventures together ended in a split second. all because somebody here illegally ignoring our laws and because someone always gave him a break when he was called numerous times previously. the dea and the judge know the killer of my child and charged him with a vehicular manslaughter without gross negligence and gave a deal of nine months probation. he even had the privilege to bail out of jail for $10,000 cash while the hearing was going on. the illegal have more rights than my son ever had. and he never pled because he was always protected and told the judge and sentencing that god gives life and god takes life and i was on my way to work.
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he was released after 35 days in jail and taken to an immigration detention center. he would have been let out the back door because of overcrowding, but my husband and i went every week to make sure he wasn't released. one and a half years after he took my son's life, he was finally deported again. sources are telling us he's back in this country, and even if he reaffirms, he would be protected by this administration. if the existing laws would have been upheld and followed, my son would still be alive. since my son's death, i've been speaking out about the horrible consequences of illegal immigration that come with enormous financial costs to this country. many lives were ruined and taken, deadly drugs flooding the streets, the national security at risk, the border patrol and i.c.e. agents overwhelmed. americans and illegal immigrants pushed aside while we have other
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chaos at the wide open border. this administration is working hard for illegals. they are aiding and abetting, encouraging and rewarding them to stay here, protecting them from suffering consequences while spending our hard earned money to take care of them and their families while many of our own citizens have to deal with less or even without. we owe the illegals absolutely nothing. how many more dominic's have to die before this insanity ends? how much more has to happen and how much more will it cost this nation before more heroes like you and this government finally demand action and ask and tell us enough is enough. thank you. >> thank you both for sharing the story is that gave you such pain. our sincere condolences. i am reminded of lori, a
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wisconsin mom that lost her son to an overdose and has turned her pain and suffering and tragedy into helping and supporting others, and i'm sure you are doing that as well and we thank you all for that. before we start our questioning, any other members of the press have some questions right now lacks. >> what is such a tragedy about what the administration did, dismantling those reforms, we were so close to having a sufficiently secure border so we could take the next step.
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focusing on the merit-based system and to advantage our economy. the system worked, addressing the issue. but we had to first secure the border. those of you in the administration can you talk about what the plans were and what we've lost? i agree this administration inherited this. president trump said kind of tongue-in-cheek but it resonated with me because i think he's right. all the administration had to do is go to the beach. that's it. and he's right. every single day i truly believe we were securing the border more effectively as each day that went by as part of the
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multilayered strategy of infrastructure plus intelligence, let's take intelligence for example. we were improving our intelligence ability every single day. we were gaining unprecedented cooperation with the governor of mexico and the northern countries and beyond, not just with personnel on the ground. and it probably differs a little bit for senator portman that it took some strong-arming from the trump administration to get mexico on board and do what they've done. they've never, ever put as much resources and effort into the flow of illegal immigration as they did in the trump administration. that's just a fact. so when we talk about what we did every single day we were improving by building more miles on the wall, every single day we were improving by putting more technology like the ast, autonomous and powers, which was
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a state-of-the-art using machine learning, we were providing access roads that yes, some of the agents serve. what would you rather have? a lot of them will say access roads but we didn't have that choice because we were giving it all to them. we were developing not just of those resources but also policies. look, we all talk about the remain in mexico program, but we haven't talked about it and for just a minute if you don't mind because number one, it was a game changer. it closed one of the significant loopholes that we had because of the horrible activism that said if you are an unaccompanied minor or family and illegal in the borders, you have to be released in 20 days. that started catch and release. there's no way we can get through this and the judge knew it. in they did it anyway. we closed that loophole by
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sending them back to mexico as a way of due process in the country. that program alone resulted in a 75 to 80% reduction in families illegal. it closed the loophole and no longer was coming to the border with a family illegally automatically your passport to the united states. it worked across the board. and here is a -- i know that it is a blatant lie being told by this administration. and i've heard it so many times that the remain in mexico program was inhumane because we were sending people back that were being abused by the cartels. and i'm telling you it's alive. that is just a lie. we sent countless teams down there and anywhere the illegal aliens that were enrolled in the remain in mexico program that were put in the government run or ngo run shelters with the government's overview in mexico,
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we went down there and i know chief scott can support this, they had enough food and medical attention and the safety was absolutely present. it was only when they would go outside the shelters on their own and reengage the cartels to illegally enter. so the administration is lying and the other part that i want to mention is about the hypocrisy. so, think about this. under the remain in mexico program, it is inhumane to send illegal aliens back to mexico. but under title 42, it is okay to send that same illegal alien back to mexico. it's hypocrisy. it makes no sense. it is either horribly inhumane or it's not. it shouldn't matter what title you are using whether it's title eight or 42.
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it shows the rise and the hypocrisy with respect to the administration. the other thing that was significant as well is the aca. we haven't talked about that for a while, the cooperative agreement. all northern triangle countries and the other loophole. the international standard that hadn't been applied in the united states until president trump and the national standard is if somebody has a legitimate asylum claim which is they are the victim of persecution because they are involved in the protected class, not economics, not looking for a better life, that isn't a valid asylum claim. it is state sponsored persecution for your involvement and protected class. if that is what is happening legitimately, shouldn't the position be to ensure they get relief as soon as possible and in the first country they come
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to you? that's what they did. if you are traveling through columbia to panel, shouldn't guatemala be saying you are three or four countries removed now. we can help you right now. you are free from the state-sponsored persecution but no, we knew that the majority was either a lie where they were shopping with an intent to get the united states. meanwhile they continue to be exploited by the cartels coming through. as of the aca's were another extremely important element. the other issue is the title 42. the administration, and we've said this before it's interesting to hear this administration use the words when it's convenient but it's a public health policy. let's think about the hypocrisy of which they are applying it. so, 42. we applied it and they said in
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their words to further reduce the spread of covid-19 into the country from outside the borders, those illegally entering should be removed immediately. immediately on day number one the biden administration, against all science -- look, i'm not a medical expert, but the science is very clear that if you are a minor of 15, 16, 17-years-old, you can carry covid just as an adult. so where is the science on day number one they said if you are a minor, we are not going to apply title 42 so you can come on in. if you are 15, 16, 17 it doesn't matter. come on in. where does that make sense. then you go to the families and right now they are defying their own order when it comes to family. they are releasing 85% of the families right now. every single day right now as we are speaking, there is a family
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illegally entering the borders that have covid and they are still being released into the interior in the united states. it is unconscionable and it makes no sense. they also talk about the vaccine issue as well. so, that is just a handful. the aca, title 42. at the end of the day this is what this is about. it's about consequences. if you do not apply consequences, if you are all consequences removed and you are rewarded, again you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out. i would come also but that is where we are at now. there are no consequences. you illegally enter the border you will be released into the united states and they've removed every single isis enforcement authority to remove you and now you get to work here illegally with no consequences. and that's the wrong answer. >> i would add this, i was
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involved with the white house on the immigration plan that president trump and the staff came up with. i thought it was a great plan. i gave my input on it and it was rewarding and based on their merit. but the families are still included despite what they say. husband, wife, mothers, fathers, it's based on merit and it made sense and it would actually add to the gdp. so it is a great plan and went nowhere. the difference is the trump administration talked to the experts. president trump talked to the border patrol agent when the wall came up so it wasn't trump, it was america's wall. and the data is clear. so when they say we stopped it because in effect it didn't work, that's a lie. the data is clear. illegal immigration went down. there was great success just in the san diego but they talked to
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the experts. title 42, i was talking about it with him one day and he talked to the men and women and spent decades on this issue. this administration isn't talking to anybody. they are throwing border patrol under the bus and saying i can count on the secretary never asking when they talked about the wall. the answer would be that it saved lives. they listen to the progressive left. political appointees have been planted in i.c.e., cbp, dhs and the white house. that's who they are listening to. they are being written by activists and he's not talking to the men and women who spent decades writing this and standing on the border enforcing the law. that is the biggest difference and you can see if i talk to the experts who was more successful on the shutting down and securing the border to the highest degree. it was president trump.
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>> can i follow up on that for a second? one thing that has come up today is technology sensors, cameras. i think i told you this when i was down at the el paso sector, i asked how much of the technology had been stopped because you go down there and you see there are literally gaps in the wall. it has to be a 24/7 presence. so they said only 10% of the technology was completed. democrats always talk about technology and i think it's important. if you don't have the sensors and the cameras it is much less effective because people can scale it. they said only 10% of the technology. and we won't talk about the
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details because you're not supposed to do that but it's very effective. is that true? >> i believe that is probably an overstatement. 10% maybe for el paso. >> let me be clear. they said stop the contracts, then you see this on the ground and we understand that but apparently by doing that they also stop the contracts on the technology so it is technology we pay for the present along the wall. there isn't a partisan issue. everybody supports the technology. >> i think everybody should support the technology but everybody should support the thought out border system that was developed over about three decades that includes the barrier and the technology. but your point is clear. let me address that specifically. we don't talk about it. that was a border wall system. the border wall system includes the barrier and roads that means
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access. you can move along the border many areas that you couldn't before and technology. the technology wasn't just detection. that was an important part of it. the fiber-optic cabling that was to go in that wall which now the dhs is looking at giving away hundreds of miles we already paid for its literally for no reason. it was scheduled to be the spinal cord for the communications and video pushing. it was allowing us to fill the dead spots and when i say dead spots i mean radio or technology. this would enhance the border agents, individual safety. beyond that it was going to allow them to know who was in the area and prevent us from ever having a blue on blue again. they would allow them to work
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smarter if they had multiple entries at the same time they would be able to see it on a mobile device and then be able to pick and choose where they responded to first based on where they thought they could do the most good either based on threat or time distance. the barrier changes the time distance model. i won't get into all of this. i know it's political but give me a break. we surrounded the capital with several layers but we don't believe in this? it is surrounded by a fence. every playground in the united states is surrounded by a fence but we don't believe in barriers? the border wall works and barriers work. why does it work? it lets that individual agent that you, the taxpayer are paying for every minute that they are on shift. it allows that individual to patrol significantly more and effectively with that barrier than before. you hear all kinds of arguments that the narcotics at the entry
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are not between the border. that's not true. when i started in san diego, and this goes back to the '90s i think we need to put this into context this is why we advocate for border barriers. we were getting three to five vehicles in a row in tandem if you will driving across the border in front of the agents from a couple hundred pounds to 15 pounds of marijuana and 40 illegal aliens at the time and they refuse to stop. now you have high-speed pursuits all over san diego that never asked to be involved in the border dynamic and now they are at risk. all that went away. you have people are giving you don't need a border wall. that takes about a year and we have an awesome investigation team with i.c.e. and others that focus on them and let them keep digging because it keeps them busy and that keeps everybody
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else in san diego and mcallen safe. all the technology that's going in and the hundreds of cameras going into the new border wall system, that all got shut off. and i was told the other day that there's 100 miles of fiber-optic cabling in the ground that we could turn on that would be a sensor in the communications backbone. there was part of the contract being shut off so that is just wasted in the ground and that is in the hundreds of miles -- the administration talks about technology, which 100% that system of infrastructure technology shows the administration says it is ineffective. they are ignoring factual statistical data that says anywhere where that multilayered strategy and personnel are done in the right amount. every single measure of success shoots up through the roof
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positively. let's go through the budget. so, they stop the wall. what they are not telling the american people, and scott has said this a few times, it's costing taxpayers three to 5 million not to build the wall system, to actually not to put that technology in. in addition to the budget, where is the significant increase for the technology they wanted? zero. there is no significant increase in the budget for technology as they stop 1.3 billion for the wall. so where is all this talk about the technology? where is the support? it's all talk. zero. and the audacity they've actually taken credit for the ast's. i heard the press secretary in the white house and this secretary bragged about the installation of the new autonomous towers. guess where that funding came from, the trump administration. under his guidance, under his
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policy and strategic plan, now they are taking credit for it. it is just absurd. >> so, this year if you go anywhere around the country one out of every 250 in the united states right now came here illegally this year. one out of every 250 people came here illegally. >> i just want to add something that i didn't say that i should have is that all of this is going on what mark and tom have been describing at the border in the heat of the largest historically unprecedented crisis with drugs. we got the latest report and we are talking about between 96,000 to 99,000 in 2020 and those are provisional numbers. we don't have the final numbers
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yet. and to make it worse, in the 2019, the cdc estimated that 73% of all opioid -related deaths involved in illicit sentinel. that number is only going to be going up and while we don't have an exact number, i can guarantee the percentage ratio for 2020 is going to be higher than 73%. so the majority, three quarters of the deaths are related to the same substance that is coming over the southwest border and the administration is not only not recognizing this crisis, they are not doing anything to stop it. >> have you ever talked to secretary my? >> i have not. >> [inaudible] each time, he comes across as cold and not
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caring [inaudible] he would just look at me while i am telling him about the greatest loss of my life, something that changed me forever, and he looks past me and looks to see if somebody else comes up more important. i brought my son's ashes with me, not the little urn but i have a big one at home. i pulled it out and he wasn't even shocked. i think that he is void of any sympathy, empathy. and if the drug deaths don't matter, the death of my son and others that are just here doing their thing, they don't care about our loss.
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where are these people that care about the children? there are minors coming into the country that are distributed and handed over to anybody. nobody checks on them, nobody does any background checks. where are all these people who care so much about children? and if we don't stop this, these new victims, and i don't care whether they are illegally here or not, but any child or woman that has to go through these things that they and/or, coming here and being here illegally, we are creating known criminals because we know that hurt people
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hurt people. >> what would you say if he were sitting here right now, what would you say to him? >> i would ask him to do what donald trump did that actually worked, talk to the people who work on the front lines who know what they are doing and stop protecting these illegals. because i am just a mom, but somebody is getting paid a lot of money. you don't destroy life and destroy a country unless you are getting something out of it. because i don't destroy my home, i protect my home and i thought i could protect my child. so that is all he gets from me. step down. give the job to somebody else that will actually care about the citizens in this country and not illegals. >> the failure to acknowledge the losses of all of these families have become victims of
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these substances that are pouring over the southwest border enabled by failed u.s. policy is probably one of the greatest tragedies by people in leadership roles in the country. within 60 days of the covid outbreak, everyone in the country knew three things. wash your hands, social distance and wear a mask. we are eight years into this fentanyl crisis and they haven't even taken the initiative to launch a campaign to tell our kids if the pill doesn't come from a pharmacy, it isn't safe. that is one of the greatest failures we've had and it's going to continue to get worse, so i would ask him how many of our children's bodies will it take? >> has he ever called you?
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[inaudible] basically said we need to set it back up and reinstate the program after 25 years of never failing an audit in the detention operation. and of course, crickets. there was clearly a political hit. i've been outspoken on this issue and the impacts of the communities across the country with the other america sheriffs and they thought that this would be a good way to send a message. unfortunately, they sent a message that the people in my county did not deserve to be safe. and that is exactly what happened and i have never heard from him. >> the short answer is no i've not heard from the secretary or the secretary's office. >> i would like to answer that real quick because i've talked to the deputy secretary many
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times. mark morgan's and was with me. let's be clear, the deputy secretary knew how to stop the crisis. he knew the causes and how to stop them. how do we stop them? as i said earlier, we built the detection facilities. 90% loss. this secretary is doing the complete opposite of what he knows works. he's not detaining them, he's releasing them. most of them are being released and not seeing a judge. i just read the memo. i.c.e. isn't releasing anybody. so he's doing the complete opposite of what he knows works. >> let me, if you have something real quick -- >> something real quick is going to make me unpopular on this panel, but i don't think that it's one individual. i think that it's the administration and ultimately the white house calls the shots.
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i tend to agree with you having worked with him when he was deputy, i think that he does understand it and he is a person that does have feelings and compassion. but when we have pushed and the goal is to have the hearing but on the policy issues, we talked earlier about the broken asylum system, he does seem to get it but there is a push at the higher levels. and you know what that's like because you've experienced it. with different administrations having worked for a lot of different presidents. i disagree with him on a lot of these issues but i think that it's deeper than that. >> you take the job and follow the law. he completely lied to us saying
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the border was secure. the information was at his fingertips. we don't speak jobs we have to go work for people that are making us do something we don't believe in and violate our principles. >> i would also say that in relation to your comment that it's been a couple of months now since the secretary was at the border and at that time told them we will be looking to redirect the issues and expect that it will have less incarcerations and ironically when they shut the operation down, i asked them why and they said because we are moving in another direction and we think we don't need as many beds while thousands continue to pour in. >> i think he's right he's not making the decisions, but he doesn't have to do this job. >> that is the issue. >> has he had any integrity at all? he's the secretary of the
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homeland security. he supposed to protect country. if you are a man of integrity, he would [inaudible] >> if they don't listen then you get out and tell the american people. he's truly the secretary of homeland security, he needs to resign because he has failed miserably. that's my opinion. >> we are looking at three people right here, the highest levels in the federal government, and i absolutely supported president trump and what he was doing to secure the borders and the flow 100% and he did more than any other president in the history to secure the borders but i'm telling you right now, i would have never lied for him, ever. i wouldn't lie for anybody in the administration. and the two gentlemen sitting next to me would never live for the administration that we worked for. this secretary is boldfaced lying to the american people.
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almost everything that comes out of his mouth i will give you another example. when he was asked how many are being released, what did he say, more spent. we are putting more in title 42 were the removal proceedings. he knew that the removal proceedings meant released into the interior of the united states never to be heard from again. >> may i add something since we are talking about people in this administration that don't do anything about the crisis? i walked through the halls and they had a sign outside in spanish welcoming dreamers. i walked in and they looked at my son and said how handsome. i said he's my son.
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he's dead now, he was killed by an illegal alien and within two minutes, some guys came from the back and told me if i don't leave, they will call capitol police. so, the same team that works with somebody that is supposed to be a borders are and in charge of this throughout and angel mom out of her office. didn't even listen to anything. they nearly pushed me just walking towards me. and harris, i can't even give her the title. she was supposed to bring change. most of us know that was just a title. she has no time to talk to any of us. she has no time to actually talk to the people in charge at the border and unless people are held accountable for what they do, because we are all held accountable for anything we do.
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if i don't wear my mask, i'm held accountable, but yet we lead all of these illegals in. and the buck stops with them. biden, harris, and if they can't do their job, they just quit and move to guatemala because they care so much for those people. >> that is a pretty good place to end. we are out of time. the reason we are holding this hearing or this roundtable is because chair peters won't hold a hearing. there are multiple hearings we should have held, but there isn't even close to enough time to describe the devastation of these disastrous policies. it's not just the secretary. the root cause starts with the president of the united states and flows down to vice president
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harris who is on the committee who heard testimony of children being sold. the sex trafficking and people dying in the desert. the vice president was in this committee and heard the testimony. they know full well what the policies are doing two people. so again, i am asking chairman peters to hold a series of hearings. we didn't even begin to do justice. to describe all the dimensions of this problem. the american people need to see this. so, being in virginia, again our
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condolences. how many moms are there, how many dads, how many brothers, how many sisters, how many wives. >> and our facebook discussion groups alone, we have over a period of one year, over 15,000 bereaved family members and it is growing. something you just said hit me really hard that she heard all that testimony and did nothing. that really is upsetting. a. >> how many little girls are trapped in the trade? when i was in guatemala, the shelter was for sex trafficked trafficlittle girls. so, this is human trafficking being facilitated. this multibillion dollar multibillion-dollarbusiness modg facilitated by policies implemented by this
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administration. we need to hold hearings. this administration needs to be held accountable. thank you for your testimony. i hope that you are going to come before congress and the ine formal setting with hearings chaired by democratic members of the chamber. that is what is required. we must hold the administration accountable. thank you all for coming. >> [inaudible conversations]
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on a partyline vote the senate
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failed to begin debate on a bill introduced by democrats that expand the voting access registration. it also made changes to current campaign finance laws. the motion requires 60 votes to move forward. the majority leader changed his vote to know so the legislation can be brought up at a later time. senator schumer spoke on the floor shortly after the vote failed. >> madam president, i entered the motion to reconsider that the failed cloture vote. >> the motion is entered. >> now madam president, i want to be clear about what just happened on the floor of the senate. every singleha republican cented or just a block to the chamber from having a debate simply a debate on protecting americans right to vote in free and fair elections. a little over a year ago, our

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