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>> hello in a debate thank you so much for joining us today. i'm representative katie porter
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at california's 45th congressional district and i'm really excited to welcome you to our featured discussion incremental precedence in the politics of equity and it was panelists that i want to briefly frame up our discussion. environmental justice gets tossed around a lot without clear definition for today's event is not about insisting on a definition that everyone has to follow but in order to understand the conversation we are about to have we should know what we mean what we say environmental justice. you will hear is sometimes referred to as t simply -- we wl systematically address inequities in our environmental world that disproportionately harm community spirit that has real applications for federal policymaking which is one of the major focuses of today's discussion. what it means is it's not the
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ssingle issue it is a phrase i hear a lot in congress it's not its own purpose. the way of understanding many of the issues that influence their quality of life. the way that we build highways itfor many decades and bulldoze the homes of families who have no political power that an environmental justice issue. operating petrochemical plant in low-income urban communities and not a wealthy suburbs, that is impermissible in justice. laying hundreds of miles of pipeline through committees who are never asked their opinion, that's environmental injustice. i could go on on how our economy structured towards environmental injustices. estimated 70% of contaminated waste at sites nationwide are
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located in low income neighborhoods. think about how much we take for granted that poverty equals pollution and pollution equals poverty. you have a senseov of how deeply ingrained environment of injustice has become in our society. for every case it hits the headlines there are 50 more. that is m not how people shoulde treated and that is not our economy should work and that is not how our laws should be written. in july i wrote a speech for in "vogue" and i want to quote it. too often our elected leaders do not take action that would provide the most help before a crisis occurs and that is really the foundation of today's discussion a need for congress and governments across the country to prevent environmental catastrophes and injustices rather than simply responding to them after the harm in that damage. we need to develop public here
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in our laws a standard of public inclusion and is safe one of public benefits rather than simply private -- our elected officials must put people, all people come before profit for the speakers you we'll hear from today today are a minor country's foremost leaders in championing new ways of doing business and that i can deduce them now and end after we are done with introductions i'll ask each to say a few words are there on about their bad round about how they came to be involved in the burr to justice and the fight that they are in right now. i'm going to start with chair for those whobut don't know him he represents southerners on in the house of representatives since 2003. is one of our progressive championsin in congress which is exactly why i am so thrilled and we should all be so thrilled
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that he chairs thes house committee on natural resources for an proud to serve alongside him. along with representative grijalva the author of the environmental justice brought act which we'll hear more about during today's discussion. next elizabeth yeampierre is the executive director of brooklyn's oldest latino community-based organization. she is a longtime advocate for community organizing around just sustainable development environment to justice and community led climate adaptation nmand community resiliency. she was perused the director of legal education and training at the puerto rican legal defense fund director of legal services at the american law alliance and puerto rican citizen affairs. catherine flowers is the founder of the rural enterprise environment of justice and the
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vice chair the white house environmental advocacy -- environmental justice advisory council. in 2019 at the columbia law school human rights clinic in the institute for the study of human rights he published a landmark -- sanitation and wastewater and rural communities in the united states. it's an examination of inequality in access to a framework of human rights. she was a 2020 macarthur foundation fellow and she is one of our country's foremost advocates for economic and environmental justice in the rural committee. we also have -- who served as the 23rd president of american indians and vice president of the indian nation in washington. at this years environmental justice symposium she highlighted the need not only to
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understand the widespread impact of climate change and pollution but the injustices that are made so stark and her committee along with the state of washington. i think we should all remember as we have our conversations that many americans first became aware of them were environmental injustice when they saw police using high-pressure hoses on tear gas on unarmed water protectors fighting the dakota access pipeline in hot temperatures and 2016 and we are looking forward his perspective. finally marci harris hosts a platform with him on resident public input campaign to grasp environmental justice for all on the board of the -- and was
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named one of the top 100 created people in business and that name is so cool but she's the fellow at the harvard -- center for democracy she brings a wealth of experience as a former congressional staffer and i would say survivor and a deep of how to use the internet to make political organizing a policymaking more inclusive and that is certainly a project that everyone here at grijalva and supports. thank you for coming with us today and i will invite each of our speakers to help the audience to get to know you a little better and a little bit about environments and justice in your history starting with chair grijalva. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it very much and all those on the committee are
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presence has been excellent leadership you bring is very profound and i'm very glad to be workingco with you. i got involved in my hometown in the region that they represent in congress. i got involved because of an examination of polluted and poisoned aquifers affecting 25 to 30,000 people. they were elderly and are dominantly latino and at first my reaction was this is a civil rights issue this is a public health issue and as we went forward with that in the community and at the community center and doing community work that was exposed and the
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investigative reporter got a look and the correlations between the health of the people and the cancer rates and the effect on women and children that has been ignored by epa and the local health department said there was no correlation the state health department said there was no correlation. and then what happened there was litigation and another area. what i learned from that is to make the connection between all of those indicators on why this happened and the responsible parties, airports manufacturing plant and what happened at the end of the day is that i and
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others came to the reaction that this issue of what happened was just a public health issue but an injustice issue and it was the of attention to the cries from many committees to do something about it. that's how i got started and that is the core issue from thereon. we developed land-use planning habitat and it begins to jump iginto the picture but environmental justice in terms on my view is the mire meant -- the environment as a whole is where i began my involvement in this environmental issues that have affected the place that i lived and grew up. .. >> i am the executive director
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and the cochair of the climate justice alliance in the statewide coalition in new york. part that has been working tremendously hard to shape federal legislation and how it will even benefit or blunt the harm on descendents of africans in it i come from struggle, i am puerto rican born and raised in new york city. just recently my mom passed because she cannot breathe. my father passed because he could not breathe. this fight for environmental justice is personal for us. it's not just about the whispered impact of the environment on people of color it's also about leadership who speaks for who who sits at the table, who determines priorities and how those communities are most impacted
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are invested in. i really want to thank you representative porter for your long history of love and dedication and commitment to our community. i also want to say and send a shout out to our beloved went to evette clark and aoc who have also been represented the strugglese of the front line climate struggle you. corrects excellent. let's now go. >> good morning and thank you everyone thank you for the invitation to be here my name is catherine flowers i hail from montgomery alabama today i am in madison alabama which is where i just relocated to start the next adventure as we seek solutions. the way i got involved, i am a native which is located
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between selma and montgomery and people were being criminalized because of the sanitation issue. in other words when they flush their toilets it goes out on top of the ground. we are told initially by officials it was because people could not afford the remedies but we then went and out the remedy is not working property and we found this out we did a house to house survey which eventually led to we found evidence of hookworm and other tropical parasites. the people had the highest percentage of excuse if they had septic systems but they were coming back into their homes they were filled. that's where this environmental injustice on the fail in technology meets climate change because every time it rained people complained about who is coming back into their home. those hadut the highest.
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not the one straight piping but moving away from the house. at this are particular point in time is serving as vice chair of the advisory council often times it's missed i'm very appreciative of everyone that's been on the forefront of environmental justice for all of our communities including rural communities. >> wonderful. we will now go to, or glad to see you on the stream we appreciate your being here to give an introduction to you as you were working out your technical difficulties so please speak to us about all the wonderful work you're doing including with indigenous communities. >> great.
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good afternoon or good morning here on the west coast. thank you so much i'm so excited to be here. for years we fought just to get a seat at the table to get these conversations. fifteen years ago back then i was newly elected tribal leader during the lifetime of our elders they would see millions return to the river the year i got elected billy had 3000 return. the following year we had a storm where our power our water immediately as a young electeded tribal leader was rushed into the climate change the resources and with our family for centuries the ocean
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was encroaching were in the process of relocating two of our villages to higher ground. i took a helicopter flight to look at the glaciers and i came face-to-face with the mountain is completely gone it had disappeared back in 2006 congressionally i could not submit a conversation. i would raise the issue of climate change the first conference party at that time it became very clear to me what to go after those who are
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directly responsible for climate change for the public treasury is not enough. the scale of climate change is not going to be funded by congress is not going too be funded by state legislature. we have to price carbon and hold those directly responsible and way back then when you the impact for climate change will only intensify both in frequency and the degree of climate. we knew the reality we are witnessing today was coming and it was comingg fast. if you can imagine state like washington or a governor has run a platform on climate change as well as with governor when after big tobacco they could not get climate legislation here in the state of washington. soon after citizens initiative the western states petroleum association spent $33 million
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to fill our campaign. this class really succeeded in the state legislature with the first carbon pricing and each intensifies where we are going to have to priceha carbon. we are sending out a model to nationalize with tribal nations at the table in leading these efforts to hold big oil accountable because we are simply paying for the impact of climate change. we have to get the resources from the private sector. but certainly we are going to be participating with negotiations coming up next month. i think tribal nations are in a position to attract foreign investments on renewable energy but i i looked at pricing carbon back in 2006 there is a domestic market but it was all voluntary to climate change. the price of carbon at that time was two -- three per
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metric ton for the international price was $32 per metric ton pay but they cannot access those markets because the tribal nation coulde. that is just one example of the tribal nation could attract foreign investments weregn these energy things are valuable internationally. so tribal nations are in a position to advance public policy we are also in a position the new and emerging economy that we see on the horizon. so tribal nations are here, we are on the front lines being impacted. we are on the front lines of successfully holding big oil accountable. from the front lines of seeing the bright future comes to fruition here in the united states. >> okay thank you so much. for now going to go to markey. >> thank you so much. just to be very quick i thank
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you am so honored to be on this panel with these distinguished speakers. as you said representative porter a former congressional staffer forever a congressional staffer eight that experience during the health reform. my cofounders and i started in 2010 started to build a platform that would lower various to entry, open up access to the advocacy process. we had a lot of idealism for technology in that process. we've had ups and downs on the cycle over the years i will just say for my cofounder this experience working with the natural resources committee and the working group for the process has been the most inspirational we have had over ten years of this works i'm
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excited to talk about it. >> that i do the hand up too soon. [laughter] >> i think a representative porter may have some issues. if someone else could go ahead and handle a question or two we can do that. [inaudible] yes representative porter seems to have some connection issues. so if you want to handle a question or two until we get her back why don't we do that. >> there was a question that was raised. i did not talk about the accomplishments of the work done, but you can go on
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the website and check that out. i think there is a question i think is really important about the build back a better act. and the position of the environment suggested movement on that. i don't know it now that represent a port is i should just sit back and let you speak bright and happy to address that later how do we want to do this? >> absolute sorry about that. i wanted to go to you first and ask you how do you think the political and policy landscapee has changed over time? we have been in this fight you've been a leader in this fight for many years. how are frontline communities engaging on environmental justice policies particular at the federal level orpa national level compared to when you started? >> i think everything has changed from when i started back in the late '90s when i started doing this work. we were at that time fighting
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against the unfair saying of thee environment and our communities have been planning and changing the landscape citing power plants passing legislation. even just recently new york state with the climate leadership community protection act the legislation that the federal government used to model justice 40 after. so everything has changed greatly climate justice aligned which is the centerte of gravity between climate change and racial justice and it move towards a just transition. and what we used to see was grass top organizations determining what our priorities were with their fingerprints all over every piece of legislation. nicely the united frontline table which is made of cja, the environmental networks the grass rubes, black lives matter and an out of the number of grassroots organizations all over the
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country literally hundreds that representnt millions of people in the united states. and so we feel and felt for a while we were shaping the landscape, we are changing policy. we've been really successful in the state of new york. but recently we have been very disappointed but we have been disappointed because black and indigenous people of color voted biden into office. he would not of gotten into office if it had not been for the work done by people on the ground in our community. he even said black people have always had his back, right? what we are seeing right now is appointments like jamie mccarthy and really played with them black and indigenous people that have been helpful for generation. we talk about the bipartisan infrastructure package and build back better act, we think it is a conflict for justice principles by the justice of 40 pledge has a climate version ofco 40 acres
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and a meal a promise that will nott be met in the infrastructure packages. frontline communities of a promise of 40% of funding to be earmarked for progress and communities to confront the climate emergency. we already see a structure being set up that would allow to be used as a debt benefits and not direct funding. these would take programs and some that should have happened p anyway. so that bread were also single fossil fuel subsidies that include in both packages the bipartisan structure bill has 25 billion slated for fossil fuel subsidies in addition to the build back better act which also includes additional 15 billion. this does not even include the subsidy for states clean energy. so we are really concerned it's funded and packages and we are working diligently on the ground traits not just about putting together legislation on the federal level.
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you see will relaunch the first community cooperatives would bring offshore wind which is the equivalent of the us department of energy to bring in investments or solution oriented there should be an investment in those solutions. i think there is tremendous dissatisfaction from grassroots leaders we are an intergenerational movement and we have been shaping everything from the thrive acted to the green new deal. that is radically different that it has been in the past. we are leading and we have to because it's literally our people on the chopping board. our people you see from hurricane maria super storm sandy to hurricane ida, we can go on and on about what has impacted those people at least responsible for creating climate change. for going to expect leadership
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and we are going to expect that leadership falls a frontline and is aligned with the recommendation on policy that we have been pushing for. it is a different moment, it's a different time and literally everything is at stake. so that has changed substantially. >> i want to go now and talk a little bit about the approach that you took to develop the environmental justice for all act which is certainly developed in a different way than the bipartisan infrastructure build to your point. elizabeth, can you talk a little bit about why you took such a different approach in developing environmental justice for all and how that shaped with the bill looks like now? >> the legislation is a process that we learned the hard way. the effort around environmental justice
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andslation for myself others began, congress. they had no traction. i think when we started the process to do something not only comprehensive around environmental justice we also, no matter what we have the investment, the involvement, and the real say bite organizations, frontline communities and environmental justice leadership in the process was not going to work. it was not going to work. did not have the support it needs to have to become legislation. and my friend can talk about how it was so critical in that process. we had a summit about 30 people from across the country
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took to d.c. and we wrote it with the task force and took it back time and time again for comment, for criticism, for critique, for changes. about 300 came in. at the end of the date the product was a reflection of that process. it was a good barometer and a good example to use in other pieces of legislation. we were addressing systemic issues in our society racism and discrimination. environmental equity issues in the issue of empowerment in terms of communities that my colleagues were speaking to. that is the legislation. it codifies with some very fundamental things. effects and redress. and how communities can go to court to assert their right to
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participate in the right to be heard. that is the law. it's developed not from the bottom up but it's organic issues that support it myself and my good friend followed this through for almost two years. and that is the product. i think it still needs to be codified into law. the uncertainty of what will happen with justice and the uncertainty of what will be part of the environmental justice for all act if it becomes law or doesn't become law. ifr still think for the long term in the communities we are purporting to want to empower that needs to be codified into law. that is where the resistance is going to be very strong. that is where the industry is going to come hard to try to stop those two issues.
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essentially you have taken out the power of communities to be heard and to be there. >> elizabeth that you want to follow up on that really quickly and i'll turn to marcy? >> sure. just quickly i want to say that what representative, i have trouble saying your name i'm so sorry about that, has done is really a model and is still contrary to what we are seeing now at the national level. it's a both process in terms of how communities were meaningfully engage in decision-making which is so meaningful at this time. but also the outcome. the process is just as important as the outcome. what he did something that needs to be replicated and modeled how we need to be moving forward collectively. i want to flag that because i went. into the problem without talking about the fact we are working with people who know what needs to be done and how it needs to be done.
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>> thank you for that. >> marcy tell us a little bit more you put a link into the chat so people could read a little bit about that. it has been a really central i think to the outcome of the legislation was to be and how could other environmental think about using technology to really become more inclusive and to deliver justice in both the democratic process and the outcome. >> thank you so much and absolutely accurate what elizabeth said this is a groundbreaking process. i'll be very honest it was not groundbreaking because of the technology it was groundbreaking because there were lawmakers ready to listen and ready to take what they heard and incorporate into the legislation that was being drafted. so, if folks follow the description of the process,
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the committee underwent the convening as described. there was a request for input before a bill had even been drafted. i tell folks they were asking about the ingredients before they put into the rest, before they created the recipe. most of the time folks get asked to participate once the cake iss baked. then there was a process with the draft bill were organizations and members of a working group individuals were invited to comment in line on the actual language and that input was incorporated into the bill. and i now because i went and sat down the staff and they showed me their dogear highlighted list of the comments they have received and how they were checking off what had been included. it was really just the most i think groundbreaking process after many years of watching
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the youth the eventual legislation is no for public comment process to request and incorporate onto the world form and democracy and talked about a protected interparliamentary union abouten the house select on the modernization in congress included in their this really was groundbreaking my mind is spinning with different ways
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the very old-school much more continued engagement people were not hurt once they were able toto work together and collaborate it was really terrific. ms. flowers i know in your introduction i told everyone you were vice chair of the biden-harris administration of environmental justice advisory council. can you tell us a little bit about the parallels between that approach and what has been going on with the activists that was just described and how was administration working to develop policies? >> i will start off my comment by saying i cannot speak officially but i can attempt to answer the question as a
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member and a a private citizen. everyone who serves we represent various organizations from around the country. a lot of the people who have been appointed or people i have known for many, many years that it been actively environmental justice in a particular community around the united states. and i want to give a little bit of the history during the election it was determined biden was going to be the candidates i became part of the biden/sanders unity task force but i was appointed there and got a chance to serve with people who included aoc and also. part of what i was asked to do is help draft the policies for the administration. i would receive advice from various people from around the country about how to move forward with that. a lot of what was suggested ended up being part of the
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biden white house. one of those of course was also the reject. i feel fortunate being from alabama a place very few people know about that historically has a cheap role in the voting rights movement and coming from a rural community where we just celebrated the first person to become part of the nba hall of fame and was undrafted ben wallace. hehe talked about the struggle. part of that is being for him being recognized by the hall of fame was significant. but settlement like me too be sitting is also significant. this been times i've been in this fight i've not able to
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penetrate that level of government and talk about the issues we have. often times it's a missed out because people assume the sanitation issuesst are issues that have been resolved. the people we are dealing with writing interim guidance for example for justice of 40, are also working on a screening tool, we are working on and we take a public comment. the public can be engaged in the process we do listen encourage people when they contact us those i can tell you and assure you those comments are definitely listen to by members. people representing places
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like puerto rico, alaska, arizona, we have indigenous people. we have latinos representing folks we have people from appalachia. it's probably one of the most diverse groups. one of the things about it is not a perfect process. it's the first time we've ever engaged in the process. there's never been a process like this before. a lot p of it grows out of and complements the work you are doing there in congress and we are happy for that. it is already been stated until we codify we will continue to fight these battles for we do not to fight it if the next president is an anti- justice president and we have to put this a in process so we will not keep visiting the cancer alleys and people living in a raw sewage over and over again for years to come. >> wonderful. we have a great conversation
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going in the chat were going to start taking some audience questions. if you have things you would like to ask the panelist please type them in there. i want to start the question from kristin who asked about covid as an environmental justice issue. she points out correctly covid hit people of color indigenous people first heard it could you share any thoughts on covid as an environmental justice issue? i think will first will go to catherine. covid has devastated my community one point had the highest in the state of alabama. even those who are active work to pay for years to try to bring justice not only to the sanitation issue but about
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poverty, inequality is terms of access to economic opportunity. she died of covid last year in july and left two children orphans as a result. i think people -- we have seen people who are hit the hardest are the people that have been the most overburdened and under resourced communities. : : : . and consequently and the candidate has no hospitals and she had to be taken to selma, maybe 45 minutes >> this is two hours away to get students to be placed on a ventilator and then eventually passed away but along with that, diabetes, her home was filled with mold and mildew in her daughtermi has been was sleeping
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with the cpap machine and these are things will make more people vulnerable. when i took my friends about this, running around the chemical plants, i've gathered to visit i had to deal with respiratory issues masai thief i could just imagine how it would be for people living there all of the time and there was with this disease like covid-19, regress aggressive respiratory problems capacity issues make them less likely to be able to off. it based on my personal experience, i believe that we have to these environmental issues because as they become more common with climate change, we have to be in a position to fight and where fighting on that front as well >> there really is a connection in our ancestors of the day of reckoning, moment of truth and when you look at the multiple apocalyptic challenges that our generation is facing, whether it
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is quite a change or dealing with multiple global pandemics, over the course of our lifetime, is quite evident that we are a world is detached from our basic principles of teachings that we have to have a balance environment and we are experiencing this pretty the navajo nation and we have the highest rates of infection in the highest rates of death and we are very vulnerable because e do not have the resources and there's report by the civil rights to the congress and detailing it called the report and not what agency is living up to his responsibility and unfortunately, we have friends and champions in congress who are working to correct that but it tells the communities of color actually have the resources provided remain vulnerable and especially. [inaudible]. and if it's reconciled the way
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we live, within traditional values, that are designed to ensuret that we survive for the next seven generations that is the path forward so i'm really grateful for these typeses of conversations are grateful for the leadership that allows point of entry for voices to be here because barrow all impacted and will have solutions and thank you. >> in the connection between resources and under resourced for the entire of our country, and healthcare, and quality of care and the affordability of care and the connection to the greater environmental harms they deal with is important. and i want to take a question about pollution being sort of concentrated in communities as we have been talking about and i
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wanted to ask if you could say more about how environmental justice legislation is tackling the issue of these impacts which i know is something elizabeth mentioned as well. >> is my turn. yes okay thank you. schedule through the legislation, there's another point the parliament in june brought up. it's important point. grants and others in the legislation, because the communities have to have independent ability to bringing expertise and organizing around the issues and to be able to deal with plans and options presented to them. and the resource support i thank
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you so key for that and the other issue is that the accumulative effect, the situation is set up right now, dealing with. [inaudible]. with the mission permitted and in that sense and a comeback is saying by the way, the levels, it's really on big of a car but, what we are saying is when the analysis but you also doing accumulative net analysis off al other pleasant happen to be in that border and with the accumulative effect of those emissions are on the people predict. [inaudible]. that is key and think the changes the whole conversation for communities to be able to deal with the question of what is cited and planned.
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>> okay is there follow-up on that elizabeth. >> i think it is really important that conversation about accumulative impact following the conversation about covid-19, is, densely populated community with thousands of thousands and thousands of people died and even as we speak, just a few i blocks away for me, there are trucks with about 500 bodies that have been there since covid-19 printed. [inaudible]. housing or have now read and a family last for members and nearly two weeks and so what is surprising to us that will be in these community surrounded by our plans and chemical industries and transportations and they're going to be the hardest hit. but we can talk about reducing emissions and monitoring and. [inaudible]. and the kinds of reductions in need to happen in order to help our communities without talking
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about taking outni fossil fuel industries and taking plants that exist in the communities andla replacing them with either battery storage or remove entered renewable energy in these conversations have to e happen in tandem with each other and starting out for example to say i'm going to give you just this morning that on the internet going to give you full solutions. it is literally on one hand but taking away with the other the conversation about accumulative impact and discriminatory setting of our community specifically because we have been targeted for environment and that has been intentional and the idea that our communities don't have the power for the resources to fight back so there has to be investments to level the playing field to create kelly communities and every part of the united states but there also has to be consistency on the federal administration on how were going to direct a legacy of arms that
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is been houston people who have endured a legacy of neglect. so a complicated question whether answers on front line of the climate crisis has been in so i really hope that this conversation provokes deeper conversation about how we get there collectively. >> and i have one more question that i have to keep it short so we can get to it, how many environmental justice movement gain more momentum if we engage more with farmers and agriculture nursing crop loss and catherine with your work in the rural communities often we think about intentions between agriculture and environmental justice movement and can you just take a couple of hours about that and then we will move to closing.. >> desperately, i think the difference between the fact that the factory farms and small family farms and i think we
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should do more to help the family farms and small farmers in the black farmers than what we have been doing it and think that by doing that making sure that food is locally stored, that will lead to do some of the help that we need not only with climate and environmental situations but a lot of these places the sly food and i can alabama we can grow it but we cannot grow food because there was legacy of paying the farmers not to grow food and we need to change that but they were given an incentive to factory farmers we need to move away from the factory farmers. i think what we have to do is shift the resources to where they need to be that i think that things will be more balanced and is also a justice issue printed. >> politics we wrap up, everybody can just say a few or take a 35 or 45 seconds quick,
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in 30 seconds, answer this question. how can we push organizations that are not focused on environmental justice is who don't see this issue in the connection of it and how can we push them to be more environmental minded and let start with you. >> will we fear the policy question but i would just say just recall that when the representative he shut the first thing that they told me was we have to do things differently for environmental justice because of the principles is that no one. reporter: the communities, the communities be for themselves and i think that with this process is illustrated is a beneficial and important that is now that is not just a principles, just principles for absolutely every area of policy and i think there's so much to
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be learned from the people in this discussion and what is been demonstrated pretty. >> yes and thank you. i would suggest that we connect in laying by example and veiling on these momentsbu and we find leaders in every sector and we are running out of time and i thank you so so critically important for those of us that the passion and the work that we come together and venues like this and lead by example and they will come along eventually we just have to maintain the momentum rated. >> elizabeth pretty. >> i think this is a moment for us to think about building just relationships and engaging in self transformation as a moment where the future looks dire and we have to build and move money to the front line of the climate crisis we need to be able to support those solutions and invest in the solutions that are coming from all of us across the
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country whether it's appellation our people in indian country of detroit for the south, we are literally going to be the majority by 2042 and climate change has fully taken hold and so this is investing in our communities and in our future and so i think that we are going to have to have this conversation about letter core values are we have to be centered on racial justice and equity and is been a legacy becauseas it's an uncomfortable conversation and the only thing more t comfortable conversations climate change, is distracted and it is going to basically so i think we have an opportunity now to start doing the work that needs to be done. so for the people who are meeting the solutions thank you for the opportunity. >> and catherine briefly and then the last person pretty. >> yes, think that the way to keep his momentum office to have this our conversation and coming
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from state surrounded h by peope who sometimes valued the assistance do not align with mine that we still have to have conversations with them and i d think you have to conversations across our spectrum whether his religion,pe political, may haveo find at the line so that we can live together because if we don't, are all going to end up being destroyed and registrar together because of the climate change. >> environmental justice is not in this title. the comprehensive is that it affects the quality of life in many and all communities it is about equity and it is about a strategy to deal with systemic racism and neglected is about civil rights and the protection of all individuals and it is
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about the environment and climate issues and environmental issuesir and equity and that's with the environmental justice is andqu i think we have to talk about it in the expensive sways that is not just about close people, it is about everyone and has were dealing with the environmental justice issue, is not just an equity issue, is a vital economic issue the people have to come to grips with and we have have mindset that this is w not something were doing to appease is a fundamental change the dynamics of how environmental issues are dealt with and i think the legislation does that and the chair new york wants to have us come by and deal with the issue of accumulative effect and once
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even then will open about what itce is, is an opportunity for s to go in there and make our argument and i think we have to make our argument and we have to be strong pretty thank you pretty. >> that is a perfect up to and on and everybody environmental justice is an issue that each of us needs to be raising and lifting up. in making those connections and is really framework that we can use to push forward to address all of the different things that you mentioned it. racial-the end oceana protective and indigenous cultures and so thank you everyone so much for joining ring part of this conversation we have a great schedule after many here, make sure that everybody can get onto that please join me in thinking are incredible countless for showing and sharing their thoughts printed. >> thank you.
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