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of darkness. >> late columnist robert novak on this episode of notebook plus, listen podcast or wherever you get your podcast. c-span's american history t continues now. you can find the full schedule for the weekend on your program guide or at >> so, okay, spook fans. this is the moment where, you know, every year people anticipate what is steve going to say about the capitol ghosts because these are stories that have been past down over generations and various sightings have been seen of the demon cat and other activities and nobody tells the story better than steve lovengood, the
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historical society treasurer. he has been doing tours of the capitol for almost 25 years for the capitol historical society, we will be celebrating 25 years of service with us in march and look forward with that festive activity. but today he's going to take us through the halls of the capitol and tell us what is really there that you don't see right away but is somehow available as you walk-through the capitol. so, steve, take it on a tour of the unknown. >> thank you, jane. >> ghosts have been regularly interfering of my attempt to present this program.
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this is the spookiest looking picture i could find of the capitol building. this is the oldest photograph known of the capitol building and i think it looks pretty spooky. now, i get asked what -- asked what are ghosts in definition for this purpose and i have come up with the idea that ghosts, the capitol is filled with spirit and we can talk about those but some spirits arouse fear and that's the definition that i'm using of a ghost in the capitol, a spirit that arouses fear. we all believe in spirits, democracy, fans on top of the dome and even a spirit connected with that, philip reed, this is not a program of philip reed but are the men who installed the statute of freedom on top of the capitol and probably philip reed worked with them. he's pretty famous as enslaved
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man who helped create the statute of freedom and he got his freedom while working on it. slavery was abolished in washington, d.c. while he was working on the statute of freedom and so he got paid as a freeman to help finish installing the statute. so his freedom was hard earned and the spirit of freedom is more important to him than -- than spirits are to many of us who have them as right. there's also the enslaved labor memorial in the capitol visitor center. a lot of enslaved people that worked in the capitol. the stone was one of the original ones and was probably cut by enslaved african-americans and most likely brought to the capitol. actually gave their lives and nothing that honors them in the
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capitol before this stone was put in. so this is recognizing the people's names that we don't know but who gave their lives and gave their labor to construct the capitol building and they helped give the spirit of freedom to the capitol. there are a couple of men who actually died in defending the capitol, officer jacob chestnut and gibson both gave their lives to defend and people in history ever to die in the sense of the capitol building when an insane man attacked them in 1998 and killed them both before he was shot. there's a plaque in the capitol that this is a copy of and a ceremony every year to honor the two men. so these are some of the spirits in the capitol. now, george washington, of course, is honored in the
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corridors this way. and there's kind of a spooky story about -- about him in that we can't find the cornerstone that he layed. we know that he layed it. people were there and saw it and the stone was layed there to honor the men who layed the foundation of the building and who were laying the foundation of our nation. and this shows -- this arrow shows where they were looking for the stone and couldn't find it. that part of the building on the right, there's the first part that was finished and so in 1893, the senate put up a plaque to -- to honor where the cornerstone was supposed to be. they couldn't find it and then in 1932, the masons put up a new cornerstone, which is in that location as well. but later they realized that the whole capitol was under
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construction when the cornerstone was layed and even though they didn't finish the wing on the left, that's where the cornerstone would probably be and so in 1991, you can see architect of the capitol george white there standing looking down on the hole whether looking for the cornerstone but they couldn't find it. they did leave the patch. you can see patch in the concrete in the basement of the capitol where they were looking for this cornerstone but they weren't able to find it. now we will talk about the cleaning woman that is legendary in the capitol. there are still people and particular women that go in the capitol and clean things up and faithful one in 19th century who used a scrub brush like the woman has on the left here and -- and would work long hours, she wasn't paid much but she took such pride in the capitol that she would work far longer than she was even paid in order
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to keep the building clean. there are a number of people that still do that today. dedicated in keeping the building really clean and people comment on how clean the capitol building is when i'm giving tours. after the woman died, people said they could still hear that scrub brush going that they could tell that her spirit was there honoring the building and trying to keep the building clean. now, one famous government is a continental soldier. this is the tomb that was built for george washington underneath right under the center of the dome and if you come in late at night, the -- this continental soldier is parading up and down guarding george washington's body. george washington was such a hero at the time of the revolution that the soldier vowed that he would guard george washington's body after he died for eternity and he's still
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there because he died before they decided not to bury george washington there. what you're seeing in this photograph is last case that holds the catapult that's used in the lying in honor, lying in state ceremonies. the tomb actually looks like this and it's hard to get to until you have to go through a lot of corridors and up some stairs and so forth to get there. so it's best to go late at night when the light isn't there and then you can actually see this ghost going up and down. now, this continental soldier considered hero, heroism as sacrifice. and in that way, he is the spirit that's haunting the capitol but if you think about it, it's kind of a silly thing to go on guarding a body that's not there and -- and it has the overtones of a cultive
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personality around george washington which was always a danger, danger with leaders and here he is spending internal -- eternity guarding a body that's not there and we think of him as a ghost because that's kind of a ghostly rather than a real spiritual contribution to the capitol building. now, the -- the senate used to have a barbershop in the capitol. it's now located over in the office building through there was a famous barber that worked for many years, bishop simms, bishop simms has own wikipedia page. he died in 1930. he was famous for the haircuts he gave in the capitol building and made friends with a lot of
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senators and he was on sundays he was a minister and had been promoted to bishop in his church. and he sang spirituals while he was cutting hair and people would hear him singing as they went through the corridors and later on after he died, senators said that they could still hear him in the corridors singing there and offering spiritual counsel to the senators. so his is one of the spirits that -- that inhabits the capitol. but now we get to really negative one, no question about this one, these are the bloody stairs, these are on the house side of the capitol. and here is a picture of the bloodstains on the stairs and on the left is congressman william talby. that's his bloodstaining the stairs there. william talby was a powerful
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personality, big man and dominant figure and he was a methodist minister that got elected to congress from kentucky. and served a couple of terms but he was not popular with the newspaper in louisville and their reporter william kingcade often printed negative things about him particularly that he was profiting from his position in congress and just before the third election when he was about to be reelected again he kingcade published an article accusing him of infidelity with government employee in washington and everybody knew his wife was back in kentucky and this was embarrassing to him and he was unhappy about it. so he couldn't go back to kentucky even. he stayed in washington and
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every once in a while he would run into kingcade in the capitol building because kingcade was a small man, talby would taunt kingcade and teak his ear, twist his ear and make him bow and this is a particularly humiliating thing in the code of southern chivalry. kingcade resented this as it would be done to me and knowing the code, he gave the response, sir, i'm not armed. this is a challenge to a dual. you're saying let's get -- settle this in the honor of arms and so talby said, well, perhaps next time you better be. and unfortunately for talby the next time talby did it kingcade was armed and pulled the gun right here at the steps and shot
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talby in the face. it took talby about a week to die and we have never been able to get the blood out of the stairs there. and so taulbee made a statement that he had asked for this response and when kinkaid was charged for murder he was acquitted on the grounds of having defended his honor. but today journalists have to be careful on the stairs because william taulbee's ghost is there and trip them when he gets a chance. particularly in a hurry, journalists are advised to take a different staircase going from first floor to house chamber because taulbee will attempt to trip them on the staircase. i have been asked if there's test done to determine if this is, in fact, bloodstains and the answer is, no, we wouldn't test
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that, that might spoil the story. now here are the senate bath tubes. there used to be 6 of them but now there's only -- only a couple of them and this is the only one that's open for people to see. senators even when the extensions were built with the current chambers in the 1850's, senators and congressmen lived in boarding houses near the capitol and they often didn't have running water and -- and particularly didn't have bath tubes and one expected somewhere else to take a bath. and the house did as well. that's actually marble from india and carved here in washington. the house just had the tin tubs but the senate needed something more appropriate and -- and so they got the marvel tubs but, of
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course, the marble cracked easily so they couldn't use anymore. but the most famous person to use these tubs was vice president henry wilson. henry wilson was a famous senator in -- from massachusetts and then was very popular, was elected by the vice president and presided over the senate and that he particularly liked taking baths and harry truman was the one how terrible a vice president's job was, it wasn't anything to do but wait around for the president to die. to henry wilson did a lot of time relaxing in the tub and he often would forget that he was supposed to be or there would be a senate vote called and he would have to run back upstairs and he was often seen pulling his clothes back on as he ran up the stairs. now, he -- he actually died of -- of pneumonia and i was able
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to locate this picture of him sitting in the tub as you can see, luckily, he had his clothes on, but here is a picture of henry wilson sitting in the tub there. but he was ill while taking baths and baths were not considered to be healthy at that time and people said that he had died of pneumonia because he took too many baths. even today, a lot of times you can hear henry wilson running back up his ghost -- his ghost running back up to senate chamber and coughing of the pneumonia that he died of. this is a picture of the fellow of the american political science association, unfortunately i forgot to write down the name. she's shawing off the bath tubes there and you can see how they are today. now another ghost story is about the carpenter and the brick mason, the carpenter as you can see on the left, a very handsome
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fellow and quite young and carried on a feud with the brick layer who is on the right there and they would often get in the conflict and the carpenter was a cocky young man, the brick layer was fairly old guy and was really irritate bid the way he was treated. there's even a drawing of the two of them fighting one time and later on the brick mason was so angry that he knocked out the carpenter and he had already gotten in trouble for fighting and so he knew he was going to get in trouble, lose his job if they had -- the carpenter would charge him with it and so he had a location in the corridor to
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the senate terrace rooms and there's a place you the bricks were added. if you come back late at night particularly after lights are out, people are gone, you can hear the carpenter inside still trying to escape away the mortar behind the wall and get out. so that one is definitely a ghost. another ghost is is peter lafont. he sits in the crypt, if you come at night when lights are out, you will often encounter the ghost because he's trying to get an appropriation out of congress, lafont had to lead washington after he designed the city and didn't get credit for it and was never paid for it. he was supposed to make his money from the sale of the printed maps but they went ahead thomas jefferson, secretary of state went ahead and let andrew print up the maps and lafont got
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no credit and no money. later on in life after he failed at every single thing, he described, he came back to the capitol and hang out here and cost members of the house and senate to try to get an appropriation. eventually he did get an appropriation but he already owed more money than the appropriation and so he didn't end up with any of the money, so he is still down there trying to get paid for his design of the capitol and that certainly a spirit that we can identify with as being fearful. another one is not benjamin but john lintal. this is the old supreme court chamber and benjamin had designed a seal sealing, you can see the ceiling there, that's a
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brick arch, one of the most complex arches at the time. had an even wider span. they hadn't put the pillars in but they got it successfully built but john lental was the one in charge of the construction itself. latrobe had taken the business as the first architect in the united states so he was doing a lot of different projects. lental wrote and told him that this arch was ready to be freed of the scaffolding and he was going to take the scaffolding but latrobe wrote him we don't know if lentral got the letter or not and lental went and pulled out the supports and the ceiling fell on him and killed him. this was greatly embarrassing to latrobe as an architect to have
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one of his projects fall down and so he designed the gravestone for john lenthal in rock creek cemetery here in washington. so that's another sad story and lenhall's ghost can be seen in the old supreme court chamber still trying to defend himself from the falling brings of that wonderful arch. the second most famous ghost in the capitol is the demon cat. here is a shot showing where the footprints are. this is the main corridor between the rotunda and crypt and end of rotunda and the senate wing, and in the concrete there, you can see cat footprints of the demon cat. the issue with the cat is that several guards were attacked by a particularly hostile task and
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it became famous for accosting guards that were working alone through the capitol building. now we know that there were cats in the capitol, this is a photograph of them. this is from the cafeteria in the building, you can find the photograph on display. neither of these is the demon cat because he's all black. but there were cats in the capitol and we know that the guards in that era were patronage appointments and if the guard was late at night, it was often some senator's near brother-in-law who had a drinking problem. sometimes these -- these night watchmen would end up in a horizontal position when they thought they were in a vertical position. so one of them was -- was laying down but thinking he was standing up and one of the cats
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come up to investigate what's going on and the guy thinks he's 5 feet in the air and the cat is that big and so he lashed out at the cat. he was quite frightened at it because the cat kept changing sizes and the man had proof that he had been attacked by the demon cat in the middle of the night there. so when he -- when his relief showed up the next morning, they knew what the issue was and the supervisor said, oh, we will take care of the cat and you go home and rest up for a couple of days. now the supervisor knew that he couldn't fire the senator's brother-in-law and so they just had to put up with this but they told him they had taken care of the demon cat. history gets made because other guards discover that if they were attacked by the demon cat, they got a couple of days off too and this is how history gets written. the demon cat is the one that
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some people tell me that there's no real evidence of the demon cat but i can show you some actual concrete evidence because here is where he carved his officials into the concrete. this is the core that goes from the old senate into the terrace and there is where the demon cat carved his initials into the concrete there. so that is concrete proof that the demon cat exists. another ghost is senator boise penrose of pennsylvania. >> hey, steve. >> national state chairman of the democratic party in peel and senator from pennsylvania. but he was a bachelor and had a lot of time and he had pledged to read every bill that was introduced in congress while he was there. now, nobody ever tries to do
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that anymore because there's so many bills but senator penrose was concerned that some good idea might -- might pass by and so since he was a bachelor and didn't have much of a social life, he would spend his evenings and he had trouble with his back so he had a rocking chair in his hide away office and people could hear him rocking and reading the bills. well, long after he died, they could still hear him in the rocking and reading his bills because the ghost is still in there trying to read all of the bills that have been introduced in congress. >> steve, steve -- >> he was a catalog librarian and in charge of where all the books were. this is the old library as it was in the capitol before it moved to the current building. and at that time they started books and huge attics and
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storage area in the terraces and so forth and so this librarian was the one that knew where all of the obscure books were. as he got older he had investments that he was concerned. somebody might break into his apartment and make with stocks and bonds and so he began to stow books and he knew where they were so he could protect his money that way. well, unfortunately they built the new library of congress and began to move all of the books over there and they even had to invent a new library cataloging system for the library of congress because it was by far the largest library in the world and the decimal system just didn't work for them. so that's when the library of congress system was invented and this poor clerk was not the only person to know where all the books were and he was not able to get all of the bonds and stocks and money that he had hidden in these books before
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they got them all moved even though it took them 3 years to move all of the books. so the poor guy goes to capitol trying to locate all of the -- all of the books where he had stowed his money and you can hear him at night rushing through the capitol and trying to locate where he left those books. most famous ghost of all is john quincy adams, this is our painting from the corridor of adams in his location in the capitol building. now, this was when the house was meeting in what's now statuary hall and john quincy adams was actually elected president in that room. he's the last president to be elected by the house of representatives because there was no majority in the electoral college in 1824. of course, andrew jackson had won the popular vote and got the majority in the congress and they didn't let john qu anymorey
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adams was defeated in next election and left office and they elected him all of the rest of his wife to the house of representatives. he had been elected obviously by the house as president he had been elected senator by the state legislature in massachusetts but being elected to the house of representatives he was elected by the people and that was the greatest honor he had ever received. so he served 17 years in the house chamber and became famous. he was known as old man eloquent but he was sitting there at the seat work when he had a stroke and carried into the speaker's office where he died near the members of congress attending the proper attire in speaker's
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office. at the time he died he was planning to give a speech and it was all prepared. attacking and giving medals to generals in the mexican war. nobody should get a medal for serving in an unrighteous war and ghost is still trying to give that speech in statuary hall. now i have seen this ghost quite often. it's always in the dark, of course, and i like to go to congressional receptions and so forth and if i go over on the house side or in the house office buildings, i like to walk back to the capitol in the dark and commune with the spirits and i have seen john quincy adams ghost in the house chamber and if i have quite a bit of wine at the reception i can be sure of seeing that ghost and it's a ghost because he was not able to prevail on this issue and his death is a tragedy. now, also in statuary hall is a
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famous legend that i can put an end to. the legend is that those statutes in statuary hall get down off their pedestals on new year's eve and they dance because that's absurd because in there first woman honored in statuary hall and for decades the only woman honored there, she is famous as the founder and president of the women's christian temperance union and she knew well that dancing lead to drinking and disapproved of dancing and essential would not allow it in statuary hall and so it might have gone before statute got there but you can bet it does not now because francis willard would put an end to that. there are two ghosts related to speakers on the left joe cannon,
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most powerful speaker in congressional history and in particular he -- he kept the appointment of senators and committees in his own power and so if he didn't like what a committee was doing, he would just appoint another put a freshman in charge and do what he is told and he was referred to as tsar cannon. and he liked to make a joke about that and when he was going to announce something that he knew was going to infuriate the people that were going to oppose him, we are about to perpetrate the following outrage. well, this led to the election of the first speaker ever elected by the minority and his name is champ clark. and champ clark is the only one elected from the minority and he was a democrat but he was elected with just enough republican votes to defeat joe cannon and this humiliated joe
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cannon but not enough to leave congress. cannon is one of the few speakers to stay in congress after he was defeated and he did everything he could to block anything that champ clark tried to do and if he comes through the corridors late at night after the lights are turned down and there's not much noise, you can often hear the two of them still squabbling because their got placed next to each other in the -- in the hallway of the cannon, of the house of representatives just outside the chamber. then there's one ghost to which i like claim. i'm the only one that's ever mentioned having seen him but i still see him a lot. this is wilbur mills. considered the most powerful member of congress. he was a member from arkansas and he was chairman of the house ways means committee and famous for never losing a vote on the house floor. he always counted his votes. and he had a particular place
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that he like today stand because members would come to him to talk about particular issues relating to taxation and health that fall under the -- under the ways and means committee and -- and so he was a very shot-out member and he would just stand outside the -- the house ways means committee room. here he is in a photograph in that location greeting a couple of new members of the way and means committee who had just been elected. he's very powerful and well known and when i first started working in congress in 1960's, he was still chairman and i would see him in that location and to this day i still see wilbur mills in that location when i go by. later on, chief of staff wrote a biography of him and she talked about it at the capitol historical society so i asked her about this and if anyone else had seen the ghost and she wasn't aware that there was a
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spot where wilbur mills had stood. now, she was in charge much later than when i was there and so it may be that he had stopped doing that but she wasn't aware of the location. so i'm probably the only one that actually sees wilbur mills ghost there. why do i call it a ghost when he was a spirit? this is a picture of wilbur mills and neighbor. this is not the woman he was married to and 190 was in limousine speeding and pulled over by the police and his neighbor here was concerned that he was going to be caught with him, she knew she wasn't supposed to and she jumped into the title basin and the police were able to retrieve her but this was kind of the end of wilbur mills career, kind of a sad ending and that is because this is her working uniform. she was the lady whose business was taking off the uniform and so this did not help wilbur
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mills reputation and he left under a cloud and then fortunate situation. she was known as fannie foxment you might hear the name still around. so i want to mention a couple of books. one is dan brown's loss symbol and this -- it talks about a secret chamber in the capitol building. i can tell you that chamber actually did exist but it was not used for ceremonies to stand ground claims. dan brown didn't even learn about the secret chamber until after it was abolished but i also want to talk about the welcome to washington fina mendoza. congressman's daughter actually encounters the demon cat so this is -- this is the continuing existence of the demon cat in
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literature. we sell the demon cat book and the fina mendoza book there. now, i took a picture of myself doing the research for this, wait a minute. where is it gone? the ghost have taken the picture of me doing the research for this. i am just speechless. jane, do we have any questions? >> we have so many questions. let me quickly try to put them to you. there are several questions about the picture of the carpenter and the brick layer and people want to know where is that picture that they might see it and is it true that the brick layer actually put the -- covered the carpenter up with bricks and buried him alive?
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>> well, first of all, the picture comes off the internet and you can get almost anything that you want on the internet. it's the replacement for alice's restaurant. so that's the first issue and as to whether it really happened or not, some of you might recognize that as the plot to edgar allen's poe the cast and i heard the scraping noise and i thought, yeah, that's got to be a carpenter back there. >> there's a story that there's a ghost of lincoln that haunts the capitol periodically right around f219. >> that particular one i do not know. i know that lincoln showed up at an investigative committee meeting one time at the capitol. only time that the presidents had ever testified before the congress. the senate had convened a
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committee meeting to investigate mrs. lincoln whose brothers-in-law were serving the confederate army and one of them's wife was living in the white house and lincoln heard about the investigation and went for the senate and they deferred to him and let him testify first and he simply said, i will vouch for mrs. lincoln's loyalty. and so the senators were embarrassed and left and so if lincoln's ghost is there, i'm sure it has to do that encounter with the senate. lincoln, of course, served in the house of representatives, not in the senate. >> the library of congress conversation, where was the library of congress when it was in the capitol and what's there now? >> the library of congress was the wing that sticks out toward the mall. it was added after the capitol was designed because the congress had purchased thomas jefferson's library which was too large for the room that they
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were using for a library at that point. so it was almost the entire wing at least of the upper floors that sticks out toward the mall from the rotunda. it is now occupied on the south by the speaker's office and on the north by a number of hide away offices including the president pro tem of the senate and several other people there and they added another floor above it out of the space. the room was two stories high and they added space there and then the room on the end, most of that, part of the building eventually ended up as the library of congress. in fact, i think we've even scheduled a lunch bites later onto talk about that, exactly that. >> well, maybe then we can also ask are there any other ghosts from the library of congress that have slip intoed the new
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buildings? >> yeah. >> and then someone want today know, henry wilson, vice president, he was grant vice president, is that right? >> i believe grant vice president, yes. >> so couple of people asked questions that i think it's a broader question, when would these evening -- are there evening tours available, you know, right now we don't have the capitol is closed for visitors and so we can't do tours. we do do evening tours for people who are members and supporters of the capitol historical society. there was a question about a ghost tour for staff and all of those that are kinds of things that we absolutely do so when the capitol reopens, those possibilities are there, but we have to abide by the public health guidelines and so stay tuned. we are glad to know that there's
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interest and we will certainly follow through. >> yes, i have had the problem that whenever i let it be known that i do ghost tours, i get overwhelmed with people and i have to be very quiet about the -- about the ghosts because i know that they will be very popular and obviously we've got a whole lot more people here today than i've had on any of the other webinars. >> someone was asking some more about the dan brown book and that secret chamber. where was that secret chamber and what was it used for? >> yes, the secret chamber was underneath the front steps and it was part of the extension of the capitol which was done in 1958 to '62. my understanding -- and i should say, i started giving tours of the capitol in '65, so it wasn't too long after that.
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my understanding is that they actually hired people to sit and look at them and so there were always cubicles for security and that's a way to go to sleep so they don't actually watch the tv cameras anymore. i don't think we have the capability of taping as well at that time but at any rate, they were not used for anything by the time they were torn down and the way everybody found out about them was that there's some books stored in there and somebody looked at some of the books and it was leather-bound book and they flipped it open and had johnson adams' signature on the senate payroll. john adams was vice president and this was the senate payroll and somebody had gotten thissous of the archives and not returned it and it ended up in the storage room in the capitol and
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there was so much publicity about that but they didn't do the publicity after the whole thing was torn down but it does -- it did not in any way resemble the description of it in dan brown's book. >> somebody asked about the bloody steps and they -- they understand that kinkaid got off on self-defense. does that mean that taulbee had a weapon when that happened? >> taulbee had assaulted kinkaid's honor and that particular concept still exists and it's called stand your ground and we've had several cases about it recently. so it is a concept that still exists and -- and is in some state laws and -- and, of course, always being proposed that a man has a right to stand up for himself. and -- and so, in fact, it did exist and that was the grounds
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on which kinkaid was acquitted, basically that taulbee deserved it. >> which one of our great historians wants to know, has anyone ever seen the ghost of senator lester hunt? he's heard that he might be haunting around. >> yeah, senator hunt, i believe killed himself in the russell office building and probably the ghost is there. i have not -- i don't get to go through the russell building late at night after aye had a lot of wine and so i don't -- haven't seen it. but thanks to ferguson and his wife, we know which room this took place in since she's written a play about it. and -- and that's essential worth investigating. this was in 1950's incident but it became the basis of the
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book, advice and consent. >> and remind us, again, someone wants to know, where us it that wilbur mills stood, he stood outside of the committee room? >> he stood outside the ways and means committee which is right off of the house chamber. it is in the south -- in the northeast corner of the south extension of the capitol. just outside the door which is a few steps off the house floor and that is where i always saw wilbur mills. >> and can you tell us, have there ever been, has the ghost ever been seen on the security tapes or are they managed to evade that. i don't have access to security
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tapes. i'm quite sure they are there. congress used to vote to put a senate, gray stone with no body. every member of congress who died and so you can see them, over a hundred i believe in cemetery today. i was walking through it a couple of weeks ago and they all look really nice there. cleaned up the cemetery and restored a lot of the tomb stones since i've been in
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washington. the most expensive dog park in the world and people pay to walk dogs because it's prestigious and meet so many people and end up in social activities with them. j edgar moore is buried there. gay members for the military. john phillips probably the most famous person buried there. he actually grew up in that neighborhood. so there are lots of ghosts there. i don't have a dog, so i don't
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have -- >> it's a two-year wait to be admitted to that dog -- very complex, so we are coming to our 1:00 o'clock moment. this is always the -- the challenge because steve, you have so much interesting information and we've got such great questions so let me just close with a moment and we have great audience that come up. the chorus was she may only be a stripper from the silver slipper but she has her ways and means. >> i love that. [laughter] >> we invite you to send us a clip of that song so that for the next time we delve the
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story, we will have audio to go with it. other people asked whether they're informed of next lunch bites. now that you're registered you can be on our mailing list and we resume our lunch bite series which are interesting fascinating stories about the capitol and the capitol hill neighborhood that we do every other week and steve has lovers of the capitol and we provide this as fun activity as we are all trying to deal with the quarantine activities where we meet by zoom rather than in person. and so we thank you for participating, we thank you for your support and, steve, you are a rare treasure. thank you for your stories and we will all imagine how when the
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ghosts come all for all saints day. so thank you again, thank you for being here, thank you for your support. keep it up. take care. >> according to the bureau of labor statistics about 16% of american workers were unemployed in 1936. next, on reel america, film sponsored by the national association of manufacturers from that year. looking at the labor market and the future of work. [music]


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