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you. coming up thursday morning ohio republican congressman lauren davidson discusses presence by an congressional democrat spending plan. in california democratic congressman talks about wild fires in the west and the latest on legislation that would set national drinking water standards. watches c-span's washington journal live at seven eastern thursday morning. sure to join the discussion of the phone calls, facebook contacts, and tweets. >> and next, the acting chair of the scc, jessica and other tech experts discuss 5g technology. this is 30 minutes. >> hello and welcome to 5g in america's digital future digital events. national technology correspondent and them coming to you from virginia. thank you for making this conversation possible on america's digital conductivity paid welcomes her audiences on
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facebook, twitter, linkedin, youtube, and of course xds.com. during the conversation on twitter over the next 30 minutes i'll be joined by my colleague who unpack efforts to cross the digital divide the future 5g technologies and the role shaping the infrastructure. our first guest today is acting chairwoman of the federal communications commission, jessica joining us from washington d.c. chairwoman thank you so much for being here today. lex thank you for having me. >> we know about this very stubborn digital divide in our country which became all more painfully apparent during the pandemic. there has been a lot of discussion about how to best close the digital divide and make sure more americans have access too broadband. a lot focused on fiber the different technologies to get there. can you tell us a little bit
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about how 5g technologies will fit into the couple of close sent digital divide? >> : : : technology, and it is already here. we are going to see as much as 100 times--speeds as much as 100 times greater with 5g and lower latency than what we had with riley's networks today--wireless networks today. that will mean all sorts of changes when we connect that will mean all sorts of businesses in agricultural, manufacturing, healthcare and more but when it comes to the digital divide has been really apparent during this pandemic as modified foods online, you can play a role in this discussion we are seeing that's because we keep on talking about the reach of fiber network throughout the country. most facilities on the ground that connect wireless power and
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we need to have robust connections to power and underground facilities to make sure wireless networks can deliver all that 40 -- 5g has to offer. >> you mentioned 5g is already here but for g is still what most of us rely on in a lot of places. it's not as widespread as the carriers promised. can you give an update on the state of the rollout of 5g? >> we are about two years in the rollout of 5g, maybe more than 50 million consumers who have subscribed but the reality is 5g is going to be different from orgy when we are able to go to that scale. it's not going to be about your phone. right, the most interesting thing will be nothing to do with your phone because were going to move from
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connecting person to person to connecting people to things and things to things in the world around us so we will have sensors in different industries and equipment that will make us more effective and efficient with the things we do on a day-to-day basis and all ofba tt conductivity is powerful and it will be responsible for next generation machine manner so that is where the real revolution will be, far beyond this. >> speaking of airway and the signals, one thing you have been talking about since the launch of 5g networks a couple of years ago is the need for mid band spectrum to make sure the networks can be deployed atll scale. tell us what the fec is doing to sure more airways are able to get out to the market and use 5g. >> absolutely. i think a few years ago focusing
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all of its energy in the early 5g days, airways that are high up, lots of capacity but their signals don't travel very far so that means you have to have lots of ground-based facilities to make them viable and that is a costly thing to do so if we relied on millimeter spectrum from a fluid growth the digital divide of 5g. the good news is in the last year several months we have recognized millimeter waves mid band spectrum, that is the peak and how we deploy 5g across the country because it has a mix of capacity but it is ideal for the technology an early this year we entered the spectrum, we are going to get the licenses aftermarket shortly and another spectrum this year week
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disturbed more than 250 licenses and travel communities to help them improve productivity where they are and walking federal authorities to what's next and what we can make available 5g and coming forward. we are doing a lot to fix where we were and it will help in this technology. >> 5g has been long seen especially in the early days being more than urban technology, something in the middle of cities will be able tb take advantage of first. how about the ftc facilitate the expansion beyond urban areas into more rural areas that are some of the least when it comes to broadband. >> i think what we were talking about, moving from a focus on this to make band spectrum is
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absolutely peak. it's economic to client and urban in her cities, it is hard to make that a 5g solution forbu rural and suburban amenities. the spectrum porch propagate brother and father exactly what we need to do and we are doing right now. >> when you talk about what the future of 5g, if you have anyut predictions about the kind of application 5g will make possible. >> i think we all need a little humility. remember when 4g came out from the house at the start of the smart phone, we could not have imagined the root of that technology. we're going to see something similar with 5g if we do it right, it will all be centered on our phone even though it's all about 5g and delivering it to your phone some of the most interesting things agriculture
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and manufacturing. we are able to monitor and identify what we need at any given moment so much greater clarity seen before. the technologies going to be developed with activity and i think will only keep with 5g deployed at scale and nationwide. >> to get a little more technical, have talked to several companies designing 5g around software instead of hardware to make it easier to deploy and possibly cheaper to get to deploy using open radio access network, can you explain what that means and what the potential could be? >> as we head into the next 5g deployment phase, what you recognize it's all but a handful
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of equipment providers across the world and we ask ourselves, what can we ever the apartment because of the biggest one from china and we have concerns about whether or not it's really here this so what we is weak and ability radio access network. different that came before. they are equipment that came before proprietary, we can mix and match different we are trying to make sure the radio access network 5g kind of networks were a mix and suffer no lower cost diverse centers of innovation is making sure is
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running out time have a crystal moment when you talk to a lot of companies and a front row seat to the deployment and development 5g. how long do you think it will be before consumers really get a sense of what 5g can offer? >> i do not have a crystal ball but i think it is absolutely clear that downloaded movies faster underfund is only the start. we can connect to more things around the world around us and we are going to see revolution and i think it's exciting that future is not quite here yet and i'm looking forward to making it happen. >> thank you so much for joining us today. >> thank you. >> next we have segment with my colleague, folk cofounder and
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ceo. >> thank you very much. my pleasure to bring you a conversation with from san diego, california. beautiful christiana, the president and ceo of qualcomm. >> happy to be here. >> 5g, anybody but the phone has heard the term, i think most people know it means more speed. why should the average person care about 5g and how well it transform their life in a way they can feel and see? >> 5g is how all of us are going to connect to the internet. 5g is this transformative technology at the end of the day will get everything connected so one 100% of the time in a reliable manner. we think about 5g almost like
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electricity talk about connecting to the internet and the cloud. today we don't talk about much about this, we just assume it's apparent and that's how we think about productivity looking to the internet and cloud. the exception in the future will be -- it's going to be not only for this and all the other industries rely on the cloud. >> you need large concentrations of people, and expensive technology, what are the first things we're going to see that we can do because of 5g or 6g that we can't do today without it? >> we will start in big cities and some areas have 5g service mix expanding, it will get
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better and will eventually cover everyone. i can give simple consumer examples of things we know today. it will really change how we think about what we do, have the ability to stream high definition video in any circumstance but also you will be able to stream broadcast yourself, and advanced camera will make everyone broadcaster. new services to come to your phone, this streaming of gaming content is going to be as simple as watching netflix thing mainstream games. the next game and consequently the last counsel. the change will be profound with think about social networking and telepresence.
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you will allow this presence and you just start to think about it, i know we look at the devices today smart phone screens and reit immediately think what more can i do? but you have to zoom out and think about how it's going to change and when 5g is fully deployed on the full potential, the next computing platform will be like the one i'm using right now and you could walk into any room and there will be a fast response time and cameras in your classes, go to the crowd, identify who they are, objects you don't know information in real time and it will change ngthings dramatically. >> i remember my aha moment of the consumer electronic show in
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las vegas years back and there was a massive display, the first time i realized how many pieces of the architecture of technology that you produce or are involved in you are powering. one company alone can't do this so there's an infrastructure bill being debated in washington, fundamentally the architecture for 5g is about infrastructure, it's about as overtime probably having better infrastructure in china and our competitors how do you think about that? what is the role of government in helping spread some of this infrastructure so everybody can benefit from 5g? >> i will just bring up a few things. first of all, there is this general idea that 5g is critical infrastructure. i use the case of electricity as
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an example where it could be no different than what steel did for industrial revolution how you connect this technology and transform industries. the reality is, it's critical infrastructure in the power grid and port and roles and permits airport should care what happened example quite form g because the u.s. nationwide 4g, a number of different properties and presence he came up from an innovation -based economy that's only possible because of the 4g network. companies like baseball and amazon and many others it doesn't have the opportunity as
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they build infrastructure as an example and the result right no now, i have a government that does not worry about how we can look at it in this whole thing about infrastructure and what we can do as you describe so well, we do a lot of under multiple pieces of technologies across the board.- we are reentering the infrastructure space, we used to do that in the early days of 3g. a semi conductor. we are doing that right now, focus on infrastructure two.oh, the next generation of infrastructure will be like the internet to run on servers this will allow many companies to enter the space and create an engine of innovation companies and participate as well in building infrastructure in both the public as well as private
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settings and it's exciting development, we're getting a lot of support, i think a lot are saying from entering the space has been a game changer because of novation and many other players to come back to the infrastructures business so we are excited about that and you hear about these networks and all of that conversation. >> you are in san diego, your company is in san diego, big city obviously for 5g. i am in a place called lincoln vein, a couple thousand people, give me a sense of timing if i'm living in rural america watching this, when will i be able to benefit from 5g? >> every generation of wireless, it takes a number of years to build network, construction is
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new, cell towers and but it's fair to say we are tracking a vice at least two years faster. by the end of 2021, i think all metropolitans states in the u.s. by the end of 2022, he will probably see 5g and the majority of the country but one important topic or conversation because we mentioned rural areas, another key difference of 5g compared to others we have with wireless is for the first time, you have the technology that can really replace or augment this brick with wireless, it is easier to get to rural communities and we
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are seeing an incredible amount of activity right now, 40 different designs on these platforms, the company's here during, fixed wireless broadband to bring viruslike speeds to rural areas and rural americaas and excited about that. you mentioned the infrastructure bill from in the infrastructure bill one thing is theca opportunity to use 5g wireless to break the digital divide and 5g will be able to do a better job incredible work done by 4g for. >> thank you for a fascinating conversation and i brought up conversation about this important technology. >> thank ct you very much. >> now our chief technology respondent at axios.
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>> i am the chief technology respondent for axios. final except guess is the manufacturing institute, joining us from washington d.c. hello, carolyn. >> thanks for having me. >> now we've been hearing about 5g for years, it's been available in some form now for a little while. we have her talk about is how businesses can use 5g's not just to equip workers phones to automate. let's check in, where are we out in terms of business use of 5g? >> manufacturers are important by the end of the year majority will be looking toti use 5g and facilities and they also recognize the speed with which 5g is will really impact our ability to be cooperative global competitive. we are looking forward to what
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comes with this technology. >> what are some uses your numbers are most excited about? >> it's about an innovative efficiencies, it is key to manufacturing competitiveness and the more efficient we can be in our process and production, the more effective we are andal can serve the global markets of the deployment 5g will help us speed up inventory management, supply chain management logistics, all of which we saw during this last year were the critical and had a big impact the manufacturing sector and all of our customers so the ability to use 5g to help speed up processesoc bring systems and support systems to help apply fact faster and more real-time will have a big impact. >> to put it concretely, we saw this start with 4g, companies are using cellular technology to put a wireless capability on a
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lot from robot to items of equipment in the manufacturing, they have the real-time sense of what's going on. is this about further automation or are there ways they are benefiting human workers? >> it is absolutely benefiting human workers. that's one of the biggest rightr now, automation in opposition to humansns special 12 and manufacturing to use the technologies deployed today. what wean see when we go out and visit the automate of processes replace something we didn't drink not opposition month we had 14000 open jobs right now in our sector, we don't have enough
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workers ready to come into the sector's is in partnership with humans of course to operate onre the production floor and make sure our companies are what these technologies are creating new jobs in skills and poor human bring their human 5g, positive capabilities and things like engineers for that moment, his office covered, we can remote the other technology around america they are not there physically and that was central processing the distancing of it so more widespread adoption for a lot more companies to manage their workflow, help their employees and be moreef efficient so the l is the limit. >> one of the things cellular
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technology allows especially 5g is the idea that somebody who previously would have to be right in the midst of whatever and possibly dangerous situation could be further removed so human operator be driving a forklift or truck remotely and allows people to go places if not then. he mentioned this message as ours get out, what is needed to get people to understand what automation looks like? >> let's start at the beginning, modern manufacturing is all about people. our workers are the best resources in order to complete, we need to build these jobs so we need to tell a different story but modern manufacturing second that's why we have campaign talking about and sharing with the general public but modern manufacturing jobs are like filled with technology and opportunity to engage with automation as well as
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interfaces, dynamic interfaces and coding, all of the things that are videogame like students across the country love so much, those technology are used daily in modern manufacturing in the u.s. and you have the opportunity to put those skills and that technology focus to light to work in this sector and in doing so, are creating the things making us not only our lives more enjoyable and technology we left the also the things that have brought us through the pandemic, the vaccines harming us to reemerge into the world so all of the things any fracturing enables which is everything we use every day, all of those, the technology is inherent in enabling those products so if you want to make the impact from a look at what technology is doing, it is enabling employees so this is a how do we deploy it together to get there faster toe
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make sure workers are in the safest conditions is a top priority for manufacturing so if you're able to use sensors not only to make sure you're not in a place where you'd rather not be but also to get ahead of maintenance and be able to have real-time estimates of what is happening and what you need to plan for, that will keep operations going and make us more productive and make manufacturing continued to be so competitive here in the grass. >> to be clear, jobs aren't changing, it's not so much necessarily a lot of the debate is are jobs going away? are jobs being created? my sense is the answer is yes, automation is changing the job, times and formerly existed but my sense is the key to actually long-term job creation is making sure we are ready for the jobs of the future. how ready would you say the u.s. is globally compared to its competitors?
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>> it's hard to say. totally agree with you on the formulation, it's not about replacing jobs, is enhancing jobs and changing jobs and that is not a bad thing. i was talking to an employee before covered locked down, i was on the floor and a 30 year employee was a tiny heat burned more in the past five years than the previous 20 years because of the automation and technology in his facility. you have workers able to stay longer. manufacturing because automation is it necessarily a manual labor job so it is enabling workers with capabilities and available, enabling workers to stay employed longer because it not a manual job, they are working alongside automation, alongside technology and that is enabling the worker the human capacity so where we are versus the entire work, there is some places where i think we could lean into the message that thise is an either or, not robot taking over or
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humans will survive and sometimes i think that message needs to break through more than it does. we are excited about the opportunity 5g will bring to our ability to produce and be more efficient, the two things manufacturers love and 5g will enable us. >> you talkle about a lot of companies excited about this but we want to -- some of this is waiting for the technology to arrive but when you do here hesitancy, what are some of the things companies want to make sure exist before they commit to 5g or what arere things top undr list of concerns? >> you have to plan for the investment so you have to plan for and make sure you can maintain it andt it's connecte. we don't want -- put a new system in that hypothetical into a hole that's not connected into
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the system. that's what the for.zero technologies in manufacturing, how do we bring the interconnected factory to life by having all of these with each other, have all of the infrastructure invest, aligned so that it's not going into a silo but it able to be used so it's not that the hesitancy -- it'so not to begin, beginning is the exciting thing, how do we make sure all of the systems in placen , that the technology is local and able to use it and you know how to use it and it's something we've spent a lot of time on here. >> it sounds like the interest is there, one key is making sure companies just deploy 5g and isolation but it's a broader effort to get more insight and value through changing overallra processes. the manufacturing institute, thank you so much. >> appreciate you having me on.
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