tv Representative Virginia Foxx Delivers Remarks on College Accreditation CSPAN February 2, 2017 11:58pm-12:41am EST
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kind introduction and jim, for setting the stage and indicating what it is you are all about and what we all ought to be about in terms of postsecondary education. i'm delighted to be with you today. i have been with you on other occasions. i want to thank you and all of the members of chia what you do on behalf of students, families and institutions across the country. and my extension for what you do for our country. you are here representing a wide friday of schools, organizations and associations. but you share a common goal of working hard to strengthen america's higher education system. as chairwoman of the house
committee in charge of education policy, that is something you and i have in common. i'm willing to bet there is one more thing that we have in common, that's an understanding of how difficult strengthening higher education can be. is something i learned long before my time in congress. as many of you know and judith indicated my career has been spent as an educator and administrator in north carolina. those experiences gave me a unique understanding of how the higher education system works. they provide perspective that helps me understand the challenge you face on the work that you do. i now have have a grandson who is a sophomore in college. so i'm staying in touch with what is going on in a very direct way. my experience as a student, a
faculty member, a mother, grandmother it gives me the experience that i need. college wasn't always in the cards for me as some of you know. i was studious and motivated, but i came from a poor family and going to college was not in the plans. fortunately, someone, actually more than once provided some encouragement for me at the right time. i eventually decided to pursue a degree. the decision along with years of hard work both in and out of the classroom changed my life. it opened doors and created opportunities that have helped me achieve more than anyone around me or that i could have conceived of when i was growing up. and countless other people have
had the same experience in our country. as the power of higher education and the reason you do what you do, it's also why we have to continue working to strengthen higher education for students, parents, institutions, and by the way taxpayers. there is a lot of work to be done but we have a lot of opportunity to advance reforms that are bold, responsible, and meaningful. you can't talk about reforming higher education without discussing reauthorization of the higher education act. as most of you know the reauthorization is long overdue. i can assure you it is one of our top priorities. with the new administration a new committee members it's too early to know exactly what reauthorization will look like. however, we we have a strong foundation for reform in place.
one that was developed after years of hearing roundtables, meetings and legislative actions. the foundation is a set of principles that will guide the work ahead. the first principle is empowering students and families to make informed decisions. choosing a college or university is an important decision that will have a lasting impact on the students life. that's why it's important that individuals have the information they need to choose the right school. unfortunately, that, that information is all but impossible to come by. the information that is available is often misleading or inaccurate. it rarely reflects the reality of today's college campuses. students and families should be able to access the best information in a format that is easy to understand, streamlining
the information will enable them to make smart, more informed decisions about their education. the second principle is simplifying and improving student a. today federal student aid has become too complex. there are currently six different types of federal student loans, nine repayment repayment plans, five of which are income driven. eight forgiveness programs, and 32 deferment and forbearance options. each each with its own rules and requirements. it's no wonder students are often left confed about their options and struggle to understand their responsibilities when it comes to paying for their education. many of them to not even know where to begin. we need to get rid of the complexity and eliminate confusion by streamlining federal-aid into one grant
program, one low program and one work-study program. the ideas to clean up the system and make it more efficient and more responsive to the needs of students. doing so will provide students a more timely, clear picture picture of the assistance they are eligible to receive. it will ensure taxpayer dollars are sporting those students who need help the most and it will help ensure we can responsibly serve them for years to come. third, we must work to promote innovation access and completion. the cost of college in our country was a significant part of the debate during the election last year. it remains an important part of the public conversation today. and it is no wonder. college costs have risen significantly in the last decade.
since 2005, average tuition and fees have increased by 40% have for your public institutions and by more than 25% at four-year, private nonprofit institutions. and what what we have to show for that? graduation rates gone up? are students better prepared? what do we get when these costs go up? there are number of factors contributing to the trends in college costs. but over the years, and particularly during the past eight years the federal government has made the problem worse. time institutions and states up in red tape has made it harder for students to pursue their education quickly and affordably. it has gotten in the way of innovations that would make it
easier to pursue and earn a college degree. when institutions have worked to create new ways to help their students receive an ever education. innovative approaches like competency-based curricula and online learning. these and other creative solutions can help students earn relevant to greece. they can help them graduate with less debt. they can help meet the unique needs of students and they can encourage students to complete their education. none of these things are possible if the federal government is acting as a roadblock. simply put, institutions need more flexibility to adapt. education is a next line example of why it is so important. a long time ago, when i was in
college i participated in a distance education program for a semester. it was wonderful to get knowledge from a large professor in my living room. i thought the trend would catch on as it was such a good thing to do. however, it took years for the concept to spread. but it has recently come more commonplace. distance education has changed significantly since my first experience. its definition in the law book looks more like the program i participated in the innovative options available to students today. the world is changing. it's chime on to time for our policies to do the same. innovation is the key for giving families more affordable choices in higher education. especially at a time when contemporary students represent the majority
of individuals on college campuses. us get out of the way and let schools innovate. by the way, you you may not of heard that term contemporary student. when we're holding hearings on hda peoples cap talk about traditional students and many of you know that what we know as the traditional student, personally who graduates from high school and go straight into a four-year institution is now only 27% of the student population. when i say can't would come up with a better word and someone suggested contemporary. i thought that was pretty good. at the same time, same time, we need to advance policies that will help more americans pursue higher education in the first place. helping students and parents make informed decisions is one way to do it. another is to evaluate federal programs to ensure they're effective in providing academic
support they need. we need to encourage students to complete their education. many students who step on a college campus walk away before they've earned a degree. it's estimated among students who started college in the fall 2010, only 55% had earned a degree or certificate by 2016. higher education is an investment. the best way to earn the return on that investment is to complete a degree. the final principle is providing strong accountability and a limited federal role in education. institutions are subject to a great deal of federal reporting requirements and regulations. all of which impose reporting and compliance burdens on institutions. let me be clear. protecting hard-working taxpayers is always been one of my top concerns.
it remains one today. however, we should be mindful that federal rules and requirements create administrative costs. a recent study by vanderbilt university found colleges and universities spend about $27 billion per year to comply with federal regulations. let me repeat that. $27 billion every year on compliance costs. at vanderbilt the cost of compliance equates to roughly 11,000 dollars per year for each of the university students. that's astonishing. it's important to know because those costs are usually passed on to students in the form of higher fees intuitions. i say that not to point a finger at institutions but to illustrate the real world
consequences of the system. we need to provide relief by repealing unnecessary reporting requirements and addressing many harmful and misguided regulations imposed by the former administration. we should do that while we deliver strong, common sense accountability and federal programs. what is that mean in practical terms? it means continuing the current accreditation system but refocusing our attention to quality and results. as accrediting agencies, you face a monumental task and a critical one. in recent years you have been forced to shift your focus to compliance rather than promoting academic integrity. you've spent more time looking over your shoulder rather than looking to the future of higher education. no doubt this uncertain environment has made it more
difficult for you to meet your misfit and more difficult for institutions to innovate to meet the needs of today's student. it has never been and never should be the federal government's role to judge the quality of the's schools education program. entrusting independent independent bodies like you not congress with that responsibility help protects academic freedom and student choices. this framework preserves the critical balance of flexibility and accountability for students and taxpayers. that framework must be maintained. make no mistake, there is room for improvement. and we both have jobs to do for going to get this right. in the education workforce
committee will be our job to refocus federal accreditation requirements on academic quality and student learning. work to ensure the laws clear, federal government outlines are easy to follow and no administration republican or democrat changes the law through unilateral decree porn horsemen overreach. these are things congress can do to improve the accreditation process. you have a job to do as well. first, for going to see change the creditors have to embrace a commitment to high-quality and improve student outcomes. some are doing this and others are slowly stepping up as well. however, we need you, as an industry to do better because people rely on you. congress relies on the creditors to determine which schools are going to participate in federal
student aid programs. those are graham spend taxpayer dollars and we need to know those hard earned dollars are going to institutions that are serving students well. more importantly, students rely on accreditors. they rely on you to hold schools accountable for the quality of education they provide. isn't that what accreditation is about? students agreed to help ensure schools are producing results. it's important that they have an honest and accurate assessment of those results. your stamp of approval means something, or at least it should mean something. it's not congress responsibility or place to tell you what makes a high-quality education or which outcomes you need to look at. that's something you need to determine on euro. and simply saying you need to do it. another thing that's needed is
an openness to innovation and the opportunities it creates in higher education. we will do everything we can to roll back straining regulations and ensure the secretary of education doesn't have the power to directly brackets leslie second-guess the decisions you have to make or for that matter, any member of congress. it's up to to take the flexibility word working to provide and do something meaningful with it. again, while many have made a commitment to do that there's more that needs to be done. share the message, be an example to your colleagues and together you will raise the bar across your industry. he will send a signal to congress come students and parents that you're prepared and willing to keep up with the innovation that's happening in higher education. we need you to come to us with your ideas and suggestions for how we can help you improve in
these areas. you know what we need from you, now, what you need from us? by working together we can balance the two perspectives and ensure the wall reflects solutions that will be mutually beneficial solutions that will hold us accountable to each other and most importantly solutions that will unable and ensure we are both serving the best interest of students and families. all of these things, the areas in need of improvement in the principles i've outlined today are essential for the work ahead. we don't have a timeline for the reauthorization, rest assured we are working hard to get it done. and while reauthorization is a top priority it is not our only higher education priority. those who know me know that i'm a strong believer in
accountability and the importance of congressional oversight. every member of the education workforce committee has a constitutional authority to conduct oversight but we have a responsibility on behalf of the american people to conduct oversight of the departments agencies and bureaucracies under our jurisdiction. i take that responsibility seriously. for the past eight years it has been more important than ever. given the obama's education department fought approach to education higher education, we've had no choice. under the former administration we saw proposal after proposal that would drive up costs, restrict access to higher education and cost taxpayers billions of dollars. not to mention a coordinated attack on career colleges and universities that hurts low income and minority students the
most. that's why we remain vigilant in our oversight. we have spoken out against bad policy. that's that's the accountability the american people deserve. as the accountability we will continue to demand from the department and the white house. we have already seen indication that the new leadership is bringing about a new, more responsible regulatory approach. a little more than a week ago to just hours after the inauguration, the trump white house acted to deal delay a number the previous administration's misguided rules. it was a promising sign of what we hope will be a brighter future for the department of education. with betsy divorce at the helm, we should all have full confidence that will be. let me repeat myself. even with the new administration, our commitment to accountability remains unchanged.
when it comes to higher education and areas under our jurisdiction we will continue to conduct robust oversight to hold the executive branch accountable for how it spends taxpayer dollars on how it administers the law. ensuring that the federal government is efficient, effective and accountable remains a priority. in closing, let me thank you for all you have done to support our efforts and for all you have done on behalf of students, parents, administrators, and institutions across the country. rest assured that you and your organization will continue to be a critical part of our efforts to improve higher education. we want your ideas, your concerns and insight to help inform and shape the work ahead. speak out and continue to make your voices heard. both here here in washington and at home. policymakers need to hear from you and you should know your
voices are not falling on deaf ears. never under estimate the power you have to make a difference. these are exciting times thanks to the innovations taking place that campuses across the country, students have new opportunities to pursue a college education. schools are finding creative ways to accommodate the unique needs and circumstances of their students. turning the idea of a traditional student on its head. we have a chance to encourage that innovation, strengthen the system and help more men and women achieve the dream of a higher education. a new congress and you administration market new beginning for america. one that is. full of opportunity. it's it's time to roll up our sleeve and sees them. it's an honor and privilege to work alongside you as we do just that. thank you very much.
would you talk about the kind of decisions that are going to perhaps. [inaudible] also i want to know more about what you see in -- >> which you repeat your question? >> the part about the decisions. >> that were made by the administration? >> and yes and the ones that make you -- in the future? >> well, i realize you're coming from the american university. one is the best example her worst examples is the administration deciding to decide what a credit hour is. it's not that the responsibility of the federal government to do that. it's the responsibility of the accrediting agency.
in terms of what i hope to see coming out of the department, when i first got elected people kept saying to me, what is he going to be your first bill? because i had experience in the state legislature and in my constituents always had the best ideas i said well i don't know my first bill is going to become to wait till i get a great idea from a constituent. about three weeks after i got elected i got the great idea by constituents and it turned out to be a great idea and it was signed by president bush. i think it's gonna come from the grassroots about the kind of things that need to be done in the changes that need to be done in higher education. they often say that changing a program is like trying to turn a battleship.
it's very difficult to do. but there's a lot of innovation going on all over the country in terms of delivery programs to students. what i count on is for the people involved in higher education and those not involved but who might want to be involved, possibly students to come up with ideas for us to look at. i've often said his most exciting time to be involved in higher education because of all the options out there. because people are being very creative in terms of how their making suggestions to give credit for people for life experiences which has existed for a long time. when i was an assistant dean i dealt with that. there are many ways we can honor students their knowledge and
learning can also create ways for people to learn and gain the skills they need. i will look for some suggestions to come from lots of other people. >> yesterday you put out a statement of executive order with immigration and it came a little clarity and create a much uncertainty for foreign travelers. many is share these concerns, it is role for congress were doing something about this? >> i'm not aware of any legislation that we might consider in our community. my understanding is that the executive order that the
president put out is completely legal and authorized. so i don't know of anything the congress might do in response to it. i haven't heard any discussion. >> would you support congress doing something to change what they put out? >> i have not heard anything about the administration wanting to change anything from what it has done. >> thank you again for being here. i'm nancy marlowe. my question is an easy one. talking about college costs. for those of us that public research and the university is moreover the state support that influences the increase in college costs because the state support has dramatically decreased.
our total budget knows in the teens and it's been made up in terms of tuition increases. you see the see the role between the federal state situation and that critical area changing at all? >> no. there is not any more money at the federal level. i just don't see how schools can look for any more money coming from the federal government, from taxpayer dollars. what i suggest and i'm amazed actually that legislators are not acting were quickly on this. it's not rocket science that we need to bring down the cost of higher education in my opinion. i think there some rather simple things for individuals to be able to do it for colleges and
universities to do. i'm a huge believer in early college programs. i think students need to be encouraged to take more courses while they are in high school. i think universities ought to be encouraging them. i think there ought to be more encouragement of students going to community colleges and taking courses before the transfer into universities. i just think there are lots of ways to do it. i suspect legislators are going to wake up one of these days and say, were tired of paying for the same education over and over again. students who are planning to go to college, many times in their junior and senior years are taking courses they repeat in their freshman and sophomore years in college. i think legislators are going to say or paying for this education twice, why are we doing that.
it's less expensive to do it at home through community colleges in the high schools. i think the cost can go down. i think universities need to look at how much money there's spending on administrative costs. if they can tie some of those administrative costs directly to unnecessary rules and regulations of the federal government then you need to show us that undo similar things vanderbilt has done and say, you have x number of duplicate regulations here and i've seen the stacks of college presidents have brought into our hearings and said these are the compliance reports. so tell us what's duplicative and show us what doesn't need to be done. then help us reduce those. molly just sent me a big book to read on regulations that need to be done away with.
i suspect that something we will do. i wanted to weave that into my comments today to you, to say it would be helpful if she'll would look at that report and say these regulations don't need to be done, they're driving up the cost of education and taking people away from their core mission. they're saying why do we have these? we can reduce costs. my suggestion to anybody looking for more money from the federal government is, it ain't there. figure out ways to reduce cost. that's what most people do when they run up in their own family budget and they run up a situation where their paycheck doesn't match all of her expenses.
they say what can i do without? that is what everybody that is getting money from the federal government and the state government and from local government is going to have to start looking at. what can i do without? if it's someone else causing me to have that expense, the negotiation with that person. i would look internally first and say, what is it were doing. i think more and more students and parents are going to start looking at that same joy really want to go there because they have this fantastic climbing wall? >> good morning. i'm with the council on medical education. i deeply appreciate your commitment to academic freedom. i think higher education sector
in our society is essential to a working democracy and it's in a functional civil society. there's a number of cases of financial improprieties round student aid associated with for-profit higher education sector. stated nonprofit higher education are not immune to the financial propriety service for my review of the very periodicals seems like perhaps the for-profit sector may be of overrepresented in terms of the issues. while i appreciate your care about having necessary regulations but not over regulations, and curious to hear whether you think the for-profit higher education sector my need to be regulated differently from the nonprofit and state sector.
>> let me say that i have no tolerance for people who break the rules and abuse the privilege is there given in terms of having hard-working taxpayer dollars to spend. i don't care who it is. if you misuse the public's money i don't have patience. i would say that the roles ought to be the same for everybody. >> thank you. >> , a reporter and i'm wondering if you. >> your reporter with whom? [inaudible]
>> are the borrower defense regulations among those they think should be eliminated? can you talk about why or why not? >> we have not gotten into the details of which one of the regulations were going to be changing. so, stay tuned. >> hello. i am in a creditor. my question relates to the role of science in the decision-making. what using the help committees role will be in protected role of science in peer-reviewed federal decision-making in decisions that are made on the hill. also the support for science,
how will the health butane the connections in the knowledge that's coming out of these areas with the decision-making moving forward? >> i consider myself a social scientist, but also worked in medical science research over the years. so, i have a healthy respect for the role of science in our's culture. i am not sure how to apply your question to what we might be doing. it seems to me that that is more role for the accreditors to make that decision as to what you think the role of sciences in the institutions and the decision-making that is done there. i'm not sure we are going to get
into subject shoes the committee. >> good morning. i'm going to be moderating the panel at lunch time with students about what they want and need i would if he had additional information that could be helpful as students and families are making their decision. what do you think remains to be done and help improve information for student family. >> i think students need to know the exact cost of going to a college or university. they needs know the total costs. the need to know the graduation rates are. after four years or six years. they need to know things like
what percentage of the students get jobs in their field. it is very difficult to get information on how much money people are making in their positions particularly right after college and how it relates. but to whatever extent we can do it as much information as we can possibly get but presenting that information is in a way that's easy to access by the students. we call it a college-dashboard. getting that information out what is the ease of transferring into the college or university
those are very basic kinds of things that the students need to know. >> thank you all very much. have a wonderful day. day. i hope it is very productive. [applause] >> sunday, in depth will feature live discussion with author and political commentator. we are taking your calls, tweets and questions. >> despite all of the cultural power problems that you have right now, this is still by far and away, the greatest country in the history of the world. >> nick adams is the author of america, the greatest good. the america boomerang, how the world's greatest turnaround
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