tv Congresssional Democrats Predict Health Care Repeal Will Result in Chaos... CSPAN January 4, 2017 1:46pm-2:12pm EST
insurers from pulling out? once you repeal? [inaudible] >> house and senate democrats met with president obama talk about strategies to prevent the nation's health care the third been removed by republicans for their saudi briefing with reporters. [inaudible conversations] >> okay, good morning, everybody. we had a great meeting with the president, virtually all of our caucuses attended. he was very inspiring, et al. a
nice we were working out our strategy and we have a great deal of optimism that the good things that have happened in aca are going to stay and that our republican colleagues don't quite know what to do. like the dhaka caught the bus, they can repeal that they have nothing to put in its place and not in so many good things go away. i was physically the summary at the meeting. i want to thank my colleagues for being here. leader pelosi and her leadership team. that may just think senator harris, sanders, her cloak which are, war and, as stab at no, pat murray -- for coming. again, the president articulated the importance of preserving the affordable care act, medicare and medicaid as only he can end up as an inspiring meeting for all of us. it is the last time the
president will address the joint caucuses together. it was valuable to hear of course because the first big fight of this new congress will be over health care. republicans are plotting and soon will be executing a full scale assault on the three pillars that support the american health care system. the affordable care act, medicare and medicaid. the republican plan to cut health care wouldn't make america great again. it would make america a sick again. and lead to chaos inside of affordable care. republicans would create chaos in the health care system because they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. they have no idea what to put in place in the affordable care act. for years they talk about repeal, but for five years now they have had nothing to put in its place. it all starts with the aca.
as we all know, the aca is a delicate balance. president-elect trump even express support for the three most popular parts of the law. preexisting conditions, allowing young people to stay on their parents insurance until age 26. equal treatment for women. but republicans will soon learn that you can't keep the good parts of the aca and removed the rest of the law and still have it work. that is what they are struggling with and that is why they are not getting anywhere. but they would do would throw the entire insurance marketplace into chaos. it would increase costs for all americans at all income levels. it would blow a trillion dollar hole in the deficit. and now i see the president-elect to his tweet team again this morning. he said republicans shouldn't let the schumer confab of this web. well, i think republicans should stop clowning around with the
people's medicare medicaid and health care. the republicans are stuck. for years they promised every conservative group in america that they will repeal the aca root and branch. until today they could make those extreme promises without suffering any consequences because they new democrat for president obama would ultimately block and a robot, but now republicans in congress began like the dog who caught the bus. they can't keep all the things that americans like about the aca and get rid of the rats without throwing the entire health care system, not just those on aca, but those that private insurance into chaos. one of the things that will hurt the most is rural hospitals right in their heartland. the minute they enact this repeal are going to suffer dramatically and 11 state
capitals, and many in red states today were all hospitals are protesting the republican action. so, we are here today to warn the american people that the republican plan to cut medicare, medicaid, repeal the aca will make america a sick again. instead of working to further ensure affordable care for all americans, they seek to rip health care away from millions of americans, creating chaos in our entire economy. now, as my colleagues will outline shortly, and the republican plan would take millions off coverage, whether it be medicare, medicaid or the affordable care act. it would cause premiums, many people to skyrocket to 75 million who are covered by private insurance. their premiums will go up, too. it would harm hospitals in rural
areas and they would put insurance companies back in charge. we stand here tonight it. we are a united caucus. we are to united caucus is that we are united in our opposition to these republican attempts to make america a sick again. and i want to turn over the podium to leader pelosi. >> thank you very much, leadership market i associate myself with your remarks. we covered a lot of territory there. i want to join you in commending the president for his presentation this morning to last. it was one of confidence. it was one of value that the affordable care act was transformative in terms of what it meant to the lives of the american people and the health care in our country is a right, not a privilege. if there had been no other reason for us to pass the affordable care act, one compelling reason was caused.
the cost of the individual, to families, businesses smaller corporate and to our public sector was totally unsustainable. so we had three goals. one was to lower-cost, improved benefit and to increase access. all three of those arenas, the affordable care act has been a big success. when we talk about rolling back the political care act, we also have an impact on medicare. the affordable care act prolongs the life, extended the solvency of medicare and expanded medicaid. this is very important to american families. the former speaker once said in this case all politics is personal. when leadership mike talks about 75% of the people who get their benefit in the work place, and
that is so they are affected by the affordable care act. the cost increase in premium is the lowest it's been in the years they have been tracking that. so it is contained costs. it has increased the benefit package as the leaders said in terms to the explanation in terms of preexisting conditions. no lifetime limits, no annual limits. the parents premium -- being a woman is no longer preexisting condition. the fact of many more people being consumed by the 20 million people who did not have access before. the most privileged person in america has better health. everyone has health. everyone is in the louvre. now the republicans save repeal and replace. the only thing that has going for it is alliteration.
they have no replace -- they have no replacement plan because they don't have the vote for replacement plan. so to repeal and delay is an act of cowardice. that means we don't really know what were doing. the conference recognizes that the consequences to them of just straight up repeal without some replacement. so we have a values debate on our hands. it's very personal and the lives of the american people. a friend of mine just told me his grandson was diagnosed. he will have a preexisting condition for the rest of his life. repeal the affordable care act as a is a promise. by the time limit. that's a promise. if you're a senior ,-com,-com ma medicaid, almost half of medicaid is about long-term
health care. you want grandma living in the guest room? you repeal the affordable care act. you go along with part of an initiative that is part of the ram budget process will foster as medicare. we are going to block medicaid. so this has a tremendous assault on the health facility and financial security that goes with what the affordable care act has done for the american people. so make america sick again? is that what the republicans want to do? i certainly hope not. hopefully we can work together to find a path to address the concerns they may have, but not to undermine this pillar of economic and security for the american people. instead, right there with social security which they want to undermine. medicare and medicaid which they want to undermine in the affordable care act.
the president now says are you ready, to have the site and you. with that, i am pleased to yield to the leader of the fight, patty murray. >> thank you so much, leader pelosi. now, republicans have made all kinds of empty promises about how ripping apart the health care system with no plan to replace it somehow won't hurt anyone. but i would like to focus on just one promise that the republicans made, that if they repeal the affordable care act, privatize medicare and cap medicaid, families they somehow magically better off. republican leaders said exactly this. in fact, three days after the election, president-elect trump even said he would deliver better health care for a quote, much less money.
well, president-elect trump might be able to make that kind of promise from his tower, but workers and families cannot take it to the bank. studies show that if republicans in congress rushed to dismantle our health care system, people across our country are going to pay more. premiums will skyrocket. prescription drug costs will increase. out-of-pocket costs will rise and the republican plan to unravel the guaranteed benefit as medicare will leave seniors vulnerable when they can least afford it. all that will do is make america sick again. and it shouldn't have to be sad, but that is the wrong direction for our families and for our economy. if republicans think creating chaos and causing chaos in our health care system, heightening economic uncertainty and
burdening our seniors and our families with higher health care costs,, somehow makes our country great again, stronger again, they've got another thing coming. they should step back from the brink, stop putting politics ahead of families health care and agree to join together en masse for us to make our health care system work better for families instead of destroying it before it's too late. with that, i am pleased to introduce the congressman. >> the president did a great job today of reminding everybody how now the aca, medicaid, medicare and social security all link. they are all linked because of certainty. in the case of medicare, a reminder that we have extended the life at a trust fund is denoted by 10 years. there's also another consideration here. it's about intergenerational
benefit medicare provide. those in their 40s and 50s trying to send children to college and never simultaneously help or hope to provide health care for aging parents. that's the importance of medicaid and how it's now linked to medicare. we don't pay a lot of attention to it. medicaid has quickly become a middle-class because of the notion of long-term care. the idea of the growth of dementia as is recognized in earlier stages now and alzheimer's disease has now provided security. aca, medicare, medicaid and the bedrock guarantee of social security. that is the argument coursing through the american political system and they are now linked in the public's mind and subtracting or fracturing any part of the guarantee changes the whole argument. >> not a whole lot that i cannot
to the previous speaker. i will quote someone who i suspect i will not often be coding. may 7, 2015, donald trump tweeted, quote, i was the first and only potential gop candidate to say there will be no cuts to social security, medicare and medicaid. .. he will not cut medicare. he will not cut medicaid. therefore, one of two things are true. either donald trump simply lied to the elderly and the working
people of this country and just made campaign promises that he had no intention of ever keeping. that is one reality. or there is another reality, and that is -- waste an enormous amount of time, donald trump has got to come forward. maybe through a tweet, one of his tweets, and say clearly that donald trump will veto any legislation that cuts medicare, that cuts medicaid or that cuts social security. and if he makes that clear to his republican colleagues, we can save us a whole lot of time and start getting to work doing what this country desperately needs to have done. >> okay. questions? oh.
>> my question is this. do you think part of the issue might be -- that the problem for democrats on this issue is still the marketing of obamacare? the past seven years we didn't message of this right. now you're trying to solve which of this. and what makes people think this will work now when the messaging didn't work in the past? >> our biggest problem was that once aca past, people attributed every problem they had with a health care system whether they were part of aca or not to aca. our republican colleagues and their messaging machine could. now they're going to own it and all the problems in the health care system. and the ribbing minis throughout the years and i want -- are going to be on their back. that's why they are running to do this first is a huge mistake for them and the country.
i huge mistake for them on the basis of aca because they don't know what to do once the repeal. one of i called -- colleagues called it repeal and run. it's a huge problem as well because now they are responsible the entire healthcare system. it will be on their backs, and i believe a year from now they will regret that they came up so fast out-of-the-box. >> donald trump mentioned you in a tweet this morning -- >> i just want to say briefly in response to question. the fact of the matter is that the republicans over the last six years tried to make this an ideological debate, left versus right. what we are saying is that's not what this is. we put the aca and place because without a lot of people couldn't get health insurance. their costs are going up. their out-of-pocket expenses, and benefit package was diminished. now i think the debate has to be practical. what does the shortening to the average person? if you repeal this what you're going to do is go back to the
days when you pay more out of pocket come you can't get health insurance. a benefit package benefit package shrinks and you just have some skeletal plan or catastrophic plan that doesn't have anything. that's the difference. we are talking about what this repeal means practically. forget this ideological debate on the left and right. i'm not interested in more and that's what i think we will point out. we are going to fight because we believe this matters to the average person. >> what's your assessment of actually stopping repeal in the senate? it would just take three republicans to turn, even if -- >> we already had rand paul say he is not for repeal without some kind of replace. you have a good number of other republicans who are really worried about this. the initial vote is an easy vote for them. just as do it from somewhere. but when they come back i don't even know if leader pelosi said, whether there will be able to
get enough votes in their own caucus for an alternative. and i think they're going to have a lot of trouble. so i would say that they're going to far more trouble than they ever imagined. as they move through it they're going to start losing people on their side. >> do you have a number of red state democrats are up for reelection in states that trump won overwhelmingly. are you willing to tell them not to work with republicans on to replace the plane? >> we're telling the republicans come if you are repealing, show us what you will replace it with first and then we will work, they were look at what you have and see what we can do. we are not going to. they are repealing. we are not. it's their obligation to come up with replace first. i think with unanimity within our democratic caucus on that position. >> can you give us some details about what president obama said
specifically about what he would like to do going forward and how he will -- [inaudible] >> let me first say to chance question that it's a very different story, take something away from someone. so our argument in terms of what the affordable care act is, people have enjoyed the benefits of it. i'm sure you've seen the articles coming out of kentucky where people voted eight-one, and yet they all are enjoying come many of them are enjoying over 60% of them are enjoying benefit of the affordable care act and said i didn't vote to take that away. one thing to say this is what you can get. it's another thing to say this is what will be taken away from you. and that is a different case and that is the case that we will make. as i mentioned earlier the presence message was one of confidence, competence in the
affordable care act and what it means and does for people, confidence in its implementation. confidence in the humility that we have four other ideas that they have in the replace. something that works, that gets results, and we should be opposed to that. but springing from not reducing benefits for people, not reducing the number of people who have access to care. this is about increasing access, improving benefits and lowering costs. and that's sort of how our conversation with. >> it's important to stress the fact that smoke and mirrors are not going to do it for the republicans because this has real consequence. today, 11 different states, real hospitals are speaking out against the repeal of health
care that is in this proposal. tomorrow in michigan, cancer doctors that work with the children are going to be speaking out at the state capital about what this means when you put caps on cancer treatment for children, when we say they now have a pre-existing condition, or that the essential benefit package that we developed to make sure basic services were covered is turned away. so this is very real. we are not making up anything. this is happening across the country. we're going to be going state to state, community to community, working with people whether it's hospitals and rural or urban areas, doctors, families, childrenchildren, nurses, everyy knows this is real. it won six of the economy and they are pulling the strings. it's going to unravel the whole system -- 16. >> thank you. when they say repeal and
replace, something guaranty is the repeal part. if there were bona fide replacement as has only been said can we wha witnessing whatt looked like. the affordable care act cures a lot of problems. it didn't cure all of the problems but there's a difference between not curing the problem and causing the problem. one of the things replacement has got to do, and the recent trouble is when they come up with replacements they will have to show how it will improve things they have been complaining about. and the fact is that if you're going to have a pre-existing condition insured, not within the standard rate, you have to have some mechanism to ensure that everybody is covered. you have a universal coverage. if you can wait until you get sick before you buy insurance, and people wait until they get sick before they buy insurance. new york state should exactly what happens when that happened because they had guaranteed issue without mandatory insurance.
when the affordable care act came in -- about 50%? that's what you get when you don't have. so when replacement comes -- [inaudible] when we knew what it would look like it's kind of hard to criticize an invisible plan. we will know how it will address -- >> we will leave this briefing from earlier today and go live to the capital to hear more from the senate leaders returning from the party caucus lunches. >> let me turn it over. >> thank you, later. i'm what you think the leadership for the warm hospitality today. had the privilege this one is speaking house republican conference, opportunity to meet with senator schumer in his chambers and i then the opportunity to speak to senate republicans today. it is 2017. we are back to work, and just 16 days away from when we will make america great again. the opportunity to be here with the leadership of the hoan