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perry. his mother, wilma maxine perry, died at the age of 64. the tough-talking, outrageously entertaining madea. our thoughts go out to tyler perry. we hope we find comfort in the fact that you did your mom very, very proud. howie mandel tomorrow night. anderson cooper right now. larry, thanks very much. tonight only on "360," they were building it for years. a massive and sophisticated tunnel for smuggling drugs and possibly people into the united states. we're going to take you inside this tunnel tonight, show you how it was detected and ask with all the threats this country is facing, how on earth can drug lords still dig their way in? also tonight, president obama accepting the nobel peace prize days after expanding the war in afghanistan. war and peace, how does he reconcile the two?
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is this a different president than if people voted for? his speech raising praise from some conservatives. the raw politics on that tonight. and later, director and molester, roman polanski. his case back in court. his big-name supporters still behind him. who they are still surprising to many. jeffrey toobin has a new look inside his strange and sordid past and joins us shortly. that's our crime and punishment segment tonight. but we begin with the tunnel, another one, even more sophisticated than the one we showed you a few years back. mexican authorities uncovered it and busted about a dozen people inside. i want to set the scene right where we are. we're at the ootay mesa border. there are trucks moving by us, you might hear them. just behind us, you see a massive drill. u.s. authorities are drilling, trying to locate the exact positioning of this tunnel on the u.s. side. this is where the border is. the border fence itself stretches for some 20 feet high. it's all along here.
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there's actually three large fences in this area. so coming over the fence is very difficult, over these three fences is very difficult. so now we're seeing drug traffickers, mexican drug cartels trying to figure out ways to tunnel underneath. and the tunnel they have just discovered is by far the most sophisticated one they've ever seen. the entry point is not very far on the other side of this border. it's a warehouse, you can see it right now, and that's where the entrance point is that we went to earlier today. take a look. this is a commercial warehouse in tijuana. we're just on the other side of the u.s./mexican border. you can see right over here, the border is right there. those are the trucks, actually, coming across the border right now. the border fence is right there, about 50 feet from where i'm standing. this looks like a regular commercial warehouse. the tunnel is hidden, concealed inside this warehouse. but if you first step in the warehouse, you would never know that anything illegal was going
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on here. the secret entrance is extraordinary. let me show it to you. it's in a small warren of rooms, and you come into what you think is a regular bathroom. there's a toilet here, a tile floor, looks like the bathroom is still under construction. but this entire floor is actually attached underneath to a hydraulic lift. so the entire floor lowers down. you can see it's now, it's about 6 or 7 inches lower from the wall. if it was in its full upright position, you wouldn't even know that this is a dropaway floor. to get underneath the bathroom floor, to show you the hydraulic equipment that mexican authorities have actually created a hole here, they put a ladder here so you've got to climb down. now, over here is the hydraulic equipment that is attached to the bathroom floor above. so the toilet that we saw is just up here, just in this room. they basically -- this is the kind of hydraulic lift that would be seen in an auto body
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store. a car would normally be put on that. and the entire bathroom floor is put on this to lower the floor anytime they wanted entrance to this secret tunnel. there are large pieces of wood that were discovered here. these pieces of wood would be taken deeper into the tunnel and be used to shore up the sides of the tunnel. there's also four large blocks of styrofoam. authorities think that was used to try to muffle the sound of the drilling. as we said, this is the most sophisticated of a tunnel they've ever discovered, the most sophisticated one i've ever seen. there's lightbulbs in it, so there's an electrical system. this is actually an air vent. there's actually cool air circulating in here, so fresh air circulate welcome which is important the deeper you go. there's even a phone system. the phones still work. that way people inside the tunnel can communicate with anyone up above. but what's really remarkable here is what i'm about to show you. this is the motor works for an elevator. it's a primitive elevator, no doubt about it, but they brought this down here.
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this is the elevator itself. it's basically a large cart on wheels and we're going to take you down and show what happens then. you really get a sense when you're going down in this tunnel, just the amount of work it took to build this. look, you can really see the bore marks that were used to tunnel deep underground. it must have made a lot of noise. this is solid rock here that they are digging through. and they used, clearly, they used heavy machinery. look, this is all jackhammers, mining equipment. we're now 90 feet deep. and there's the electrical system is still in place, plugs here, the electrical box. still the ventilation system, the lights still -- whoa -- the lights still work down here and the phones are even this deep underground.
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all right. we've probably already crossed into the united states. as i showed you up at the top, outside the warehouse, it's a very short distance from this warehouse to the border. so we're probably already now into the united states. the question, of course, is where was this tunnel going. where in the united states was with it going to pop up? this tunnel was never finished, because authorities discovered it in time. but it goes about 900 feet under ground. it's tall enough here, you can pretty much stand almost straight up. i'm 5'10", so it's probably almost 6 feet, i guess right here. this is solid rock that they are -- that they drilled through. so it took an awfully long time. you can imagine how difficult the conditions were down here. even though with the ventilation system and the primitive electrical system down here, it's still got to have been a daunting challenge. so authorities pretty sure a major drug cartel is behind this. not sure which one.
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this might be some evidence. a lot of these sandbags say sinaloa right here, sinaloa, mexico. there's a large drug cartel there, called the sinaloa cartel. it's possible the sinaloa cartel is behind this. at this point, they simply don't know who's responsible for digging this tunnel. come pretty much to the end of the tunnel. a lot of equipment still being stored here. as i said, this tunnel was never finished. u.s./mexican authorities discovered it in time and raided it. so no drugs, as far as we know, were ever brought through. no exit point into the u.s. they still were digging somewhere, authorities still trying to figure out exactly where the end point was going to be, but no telling how many other tunnels like this are being built right now somewhere along this border. joining us now is mike carney, the deputy special agent in charge of operations for san diego. thanks for being with us, mike. where was that tunnel going to come out in the united states? >> it was going to come up in a special warehouse not too far
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from the location we're at here. >> and do you know at this point who's behind the tunnel? i know there's theorys about the sinaloa cartel, perhaps. >> we don't know, specifically, but generally with these i've tunnels, it's a huge investment. >> and it wasn't so much for bringi ining people across, so most likely funneling drugs and money back to mexico. >> correct. the security of the tunnel is of the utmost importance. >> how much would it cost to build a tunnel like that for a cartel? >> we're looking at upwards of $1 million for a tunnel of this length and sophistication. >> and you think they were working on it for more than two years? >> that's some of the information we've received. >> you brought some of the equipment they were using. very primitive stuff, like a pick ax handle. this is some of the stuff you found inside the tunnel? >> these are some of the tools we received from the u.s. side of the tunnel. >> an old jack hahammejackhamme.
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>> an electrical jackhammer. >> so they have a couple going at all times? >> there's a digging crew and the simplicity of these tools is by design. to limit the sound that's produced from the digging operation. it takes longer, but makes it harder for law enforcement to detect. >> and what's this down here? >> this is an air blower. they had a series of pvc tubing connected to a number of these air blowers in an attempt to try to circulate the air inside the tunnel. >> how -- i mean, you find little gopher holes, you call them, literally underneath the fence -- how many tunnels do you actually find per year? >> tunnels of this level of sophistication, we've been averaging about one a year. >> one a year. but this is the most sophisticated you've seen? >> specifically on the mexican side, the entrance, the sophistication of the bathroom floor that raised and lowered, once that bathroom floor was up in place, it would be very hard to detect there was a tunnel under there. >> a great catch. congratulations, mike. >> thank you. >> really amazing.
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we'll have more about the tunnel. i'll talk about how the tunnel was discovered coming up later in the program. let us know what you think. join the live chat now under way at ac360.com. and michael ware takes you to perhaps the deadliest city on earth. 2,400 murders this year along and the violence is spilling over into america. we'll have details, michael ware in juarez. and later, president obama's nobel acceptance speech, getting the peace prize, using the word "war" more than three dozen times. reaction from president bush's speech writer as well as others. we'll be right back. people think that honda is always the most fuel efficient choice. well, this chevy cobalt xfe has better highway mileage than a comparable honda civic. this chevy traverse has better mileage than honda pilot. the all-new chevy equinox has better mileage than honda cr-v. and chevy malibu has better mileage than accord. however, honda does make something that we just can't compete with. it's self propelled.
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and we're back at the otay mesa border crossing in san diego. before the break, we took you inside that newly found tunnel. approximately 900 feet long. authorities believe it was used to ferry narcotics from mexico to the united states. the tunnel was discovered, but frankly, there's no telling how many others there may be right now being used or being built by cartels and traffickers whose routes extend across america. these cartels deal in drugs and in death. we're about to show you that in very graphic images. viewer discretion is strongly advised. this violence is happening in the border city of juarez. it's happening to el paso, texas, but it's a world away. juarez is among the most dangerous places on earth right now. michael ware went on patrol through the streets, through the killing fields. again, a warning, his report does contain graphic and
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disturbing images. here is life and death in juarez. >> reporter: this footage is difficult to watch. these anguished cries, impossible to forget. relatives entering this building, seeking the bodies of their loved ones, executed by a mexican drug cartel. you're witnessing the pain of the mexican border town of juarez. the front line in the war on drugs. and this, a crime scene i just had to see for myself. there's so much violence that occurs here in juarez that the world just does not hear about. and now it's disconcerting to see this fresh paint here on these walls as an old woman makes her home in this building. for just two months ago, this literally was a corridor of blood. this building had been a drug rehabilitation center and one of the major cartels suspected that its rivals were recruiting foot
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soldiers from among the patients. so they came in this door and down this corridor, moving from room to room to room, executing everyone they found. while they're now trying to build a home, this is where 17 people died in yet another day of juarez violence. within two days of this attack, the death toll rose even higher when two survivors died in the hospital. and there is no discrimination to the slaughter. under these clothes lies a 7-year-old american boy. his father, the target, but the hit man chose not to let the child live. on this day, we're in juarez to see the horrors for ourselves. it's just before dusk as i approach a fresh crime scene. in juarez, 1,600 people died from drug-related violence last
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year. this year, the total's already well over 2,000. and today's total is already at 12. the man in that car was hit by cartel gunman, riddled with eight bullets. his passenger tried to flee, but only made it that far. this was yet another afternoon of killing in juarez. with a night of murder yet to follow. it's only 9:00. we're now going and joining this police patrol. since the killings this afternoon that we saw, there's already been another homicide bringing today's total to 13. every night, joint patrols like this one between local and federal police and mexican soldiers crisscross the city, trying desperately to stem the flow of blood. >> things were so bad that earlier in the year, the mexican president had to call in the
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military to help protect the city. for a short time, there was a lull in the violence, but it quickly returned. and now, it's worse than it's ever been before. by now it's close to 10:00 p.m. and the reports of violence are streaming in over the police radio. the patrollers just received another call on the radio to some kind of internet, but those lights there, that's america. it's the u.s. border. that reminds you just how close this war on drugs is being fought to american soil. but before the night is over, there is even more carnage to come. all this in our one afternoon and evening visit to this deadly city. this time, it's almost too much to bear. it's just after 11:00 and where
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you see those policemen gathered at that door, there's just been four more slayings. this time, all women. the early reports are that a gunman walked in that door and executed all of them, one of them a 12-year-old girl, another one 14, and in a gut-wrenching irony, all of this done with the american border crossing just here, 80 yards away. there can be no more pertinent reminder of the mexican blood that's being spilt in this war for the right to supply america's demand for illicit drugs. >> michael ware joins us from el paso, just across the border from juarez. el paso, ironically, now one of the safest small cities in the united states. michael, in juarez, does the public feel like the presence of all these security forces and
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the mexican military, do they feel like it's making a difference? >> reporter: no, absolutely not, anderson. in fact, it's quite the opposite. we spoke to so many people during our visit to juarez, see, that's juarez, what you see behind us right now. i'm standing on american soil. there's a fence and a train line below, and that's the city itself. indeed, our police patrol was up and down this area here and some of the murder scenes are just behind me. the people fear not just the cartels, but they watch the army and the police stand by as others are being killed. they know that many of the police are corrupt, that the military's doing nothing. yet on the other hand, we asked some of the soldiers, when you have an incident, do the local people help you? and the soldiers are telling us, they give us no help at all. so there's no respect from the people for the security forces and the few honest police and
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military aren't getting any help from a terrified population, anderson. >> and the death toll is rising. michael ware, appreciate it. thank you, michael. up next, we'll have more from here, the otay mesa crossing and this new tunnel discovered here later on in the program. we want to turn now to a wartime president accepting the nobel peace prize today. president barack obama mentioning war dozens of time in his acceptance speech. now under fire from some critics about that. some conservatives, including sarah palin, praising him about that. dav okay, class, our special guest is here -- ellen page. hi, ellen! hi, ellen! hi, ellen! hi, ellen! we're going on a field trip to china! wow. [ chuckles ] when i was a kid, we -- we would just go to the -- the farm. [ cow moos ]
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in oslo today, president obama accepted the nobel peace prize. he's the fourth u.s. president to win the award, an honor that has put him in an awkward position. many people, not just his critics says he hasn't earned the award, at least not yet, anyway. he was nominated shortly after taking office. in his acceptance speech, mr. obama said he understood the controversy over his acceptance and called his accomplishments slight. candy crowley has tonight's raw politics. >> reporter: it was a moment congested with irony and complexity. >> i'm responsible for the deployment of thousands of young americans to battle in a distant land. some will kill and some will be killed. >> reporter: he was picking up the nobel peace prize, speaking
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forcefully in defense of war. >> i face the world as it is and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the american people. >> reporter: for a minute there, it was like he was challenging george bush. >> for make no mistake, evil does exist in the world. >> reporter: news flash, republicans were pleased by a lot of what the president had to say. accused by critics of appearing weak in a tough world, the president spoke of morally justified war for humanitarian reasons, to aid an invaded country or in self-defense. and amidst domestic complaints, he has apologized too much for u.s. behavior, a different tone. a history lesson to remind the world. >> whatever mistakes we have made, the plain fact is this -- the united states of america has helped underwrite global security for more than six decades with the blood of our citizens and the strength of our arms. >> reporter: he spoke of the need for countries to band together against nation's like north korea or iran, trying to game the system. he spoke of the goal of a world
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free of nuclear weapons. was in the end, where he may have most succeeded is in explaining how a president can oversee two wars and still accept a prize for peace. >> we can admit the intractability of deprivation and still strive for dignity. clear-eyed, we can understand that there will be war and still strive for peace. >> reporter: it is not just this moment that's congested with irony and complexity. the world is too. candy crowley, cnn, washington. >> president obama used the word "war" more than three dozen times in the speech. the early feedback, a lot of conservatives seemed to like what he said. so was it the right speech to give? joining me, senior political analyst, david gergen, also tonya acker. the president faced a big challenge today, how do you think he did? >> he's the first sitting president in all of american
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history who was given the nobel lecture while in office. the other three were out of office when they -- one of them didn't show, woodrow wilson, but the other two were both out of office when they gave the speech. in this case, i think he rose to the occasion. i did not think he was channeling george w. bush. there might have been a sentence here or a sentence there, maybe even a paragraph that george w. bush would have agreed, was be the overall thrust was very much president obama's. i think it reflected a philosophical turn of mind much more than a policy approach. and i think it's a speech that will live well through the years ahead. i think it will be well remembered as a statement of his personal vision of what the world might become and of a man who works hard to grapple with the complexities and the paradoxes of power. >> michael, former ambassador to the u.n., john bolton, under former president bush, had this to say about the president's speech. he told the national review
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that, it followed the standard international leftist line. he played to the crowd and filled the speech withical clic from the american and international left by saying american cannot act alone. do you agree? >> i couldn't disagree more. that really is an example of, you know, we used to have bush derangement syndrome. that's really obama derangement syndrome. this was a complex, intellect l intellectualintellectua intellectually rich, speech. it was professor obama giving a lecture and he was at his best. he took on those elephants in the room, the difficult issues you know in a straight ford fashion. he said that his qualifications for this were slight. he was disarmingly honest. and then when it came to the commitment that he has made in afghanistan, he was completely unapologetic. he talked about the use of force being a moral necessity in some cases. he talked about america being a force for moral good, about the
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reality of evil. this was a very american speech. he didn't speak as kind of the citizen of the world as sometimes he has in the past. he talked about america's important role. i wail got an e-mail from a military officer that was serving overseas today that was just deeply grateful that the president talked about the essential role that the military plays in preserving the peace. it was, i think, effective in that way. >> tonya, the fact that today's speech was cheered in some ways by senator palin and newt gingrich, is that a marker of failure from the liberal perspective? >> well, i find it so puzzling, because if you parse through what he said in the speech, these are really a lot of the same themes that he sounded during the campaign. he's always been hawkish on afghanistan. he's always been very clear that that was the war, as president, that he was going to fight. he's always sounded these themes of going to war when necessary. i mean, i think the interesting thing you're hearing from conservatives now is that
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they're sort of suggesting that this is some vindication of the bush policy when it isn't. what was that issue in the bush presidency was not, do you go to war, but it was how and under what circumstances do you do so? i think what this president has set forth, like every president in the history of this nation, he's willing to commit arms in the defense of this country, but he will do it in a way that comports with international law. >> david, did he overcome the potential criticism he faced for accepting this award? i mean, early on, a lot of conservatives in particular were very critical of the fact that he was nominated and was going to accept by giving this kind of a speech did he kind of overcome that? >> i think he did. i think it's faded as an issue, anderson. now the issue becomes, well, what did he say and what does it mean for american foreign policy, what does it mean for the world? i think he treated it with proper humility. i agree with everything michael said. i think he's invited us to have a conversation about what it is to have a just war.
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i don't know about michael, but i heard him say he thought afghanistan was a just war, but did not think iraq was a just war and there was much departure from what george w. bush stood for. >> michael, is that what you heard as well? >> no, not really. philosophically, there were differences in the speech between the two speeches. but president obama made a statement that human dignity were the basis of human peace. it shows the bipartisan commitments of american foreign policy that are rooted in a democratic internationalism. a belief that certain ideals are universal, not culturally relevant. he made that point in the speech. you know, these were very mainstream points, but very welcome coming from obama, who sometimes has not taken this approach in the path. >> we're going to have to leave it there.
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michaelgerston, tanya acker, appreciate it. and will roman polanski finally have to face prison and has his fame helped or hurt him? and much more on the sophisticated tunnel that took years to build before the u.s./mexico border. we'll show you more of what we found today. she wants to make up.
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his lawyers in court today asking for his 1978 rape conviction to be thrown out. the latest on that ahead. but first, erica hill as a "360" bullet bulletin. >> police believe the same men recently reported missing in the washington, d.c. area. the agency did not identify the suspects, but did say a -- but said a special agent and two other government officials have spoken with some of the men. meantime, pakistanmy police have now arrested a sixth man, the father of one of those five suspects. a terrifying moment in new york's times square, where a plains clothed police officers
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chased a suspect. the two exchanged gunfire that shattered windows on broadway. the 25-year-old suspect was killed after he allegedly fired a stolen pistol at the officer. a "360" follow-up tonight. a map accused of secretly taping espn sports reporter erin andrews in the nude using hotel room peepholes to get that footage and then posting it online will plead guilty to a federal stocking charge. he will enter that plea next week. and michael jackson's father going to have to wait until next month before a judge decide ifs he will get a monthly allowance from the pop star's estate. a los angeles judge today delayed arguments on that petition until january 28th. joe jackson is asking for as much as $20,000 a month, anderson. >> all right. join the live chat at ac360.com. when we come back, i'll be talking with two more members of the san diego tunnel task force about their incredible discovery. really the most sophisticated drug tunnel we have ever seen underneath the u.s. border.
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we're back at the otay mesa border crossing, where they've discovered this incredibly sophisticated tunnel built by drug traffickers across the border. otay mesa, the country's busiest border crossing. and i want to take you, show you a little bit of what we saw inside the tunnel today in an exclusive look you'll only see here on "360." this is the most sophisticated tunnel they've found and they've
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found some pretty sophisticated ones here, especially in this area, over the last couple of years. this one has an elevator that actually takes you down 90 feet underground. take a look. >> it must have made a lot of noise. this is solid rock here that they are digging through. and clearly, they used heavy machinery. look, this is all jackhammers, mining equipment. we're now 90 feet deep and there's the electrical system is still in place, there's plugs here. there's an electrical box. there's still the ventilation system. the lights still -- whoa -- the lights still work down here and the phones are even this deep underground. all right we probably already crossed into the united states. as i showed you up at the top outside the warehouse, it's a very short distance from this warehouse to the border. so we're probably already now
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into the united states. the question, of course, is where was this tunnel going. where in the united states was it going to pop up? this tunnel was never finished because authorities discovered it in time, but it goes about 900 feet. joining me now is steven that masky, assistant special agent with the federal drug enforcement agent in san diego. steven, had you ever seen a tunnel like this before? >> no. this is a fantastic tunnel. it's probably the second biggest we've ever gotten and it just shows you to the extent that these dangerous drug trafficking organizations will go to circumvent border security. as border security is done well on top of the land, the drug trafficking tunnels get created and they try to go underground. >> behind us, there's this huge drill. you guys are basically looking to find where the tunnel is on the u.s. side, ultimately to drill through it to then, what,
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flood it or destroy it? >> one of the big they thinks we need to do after discovering a tunnel is to remediate that tunnel -- >> remediate means? >> fill it up with concrete so it can't be used again. >> that's what that massive drill is -- >> that's part of this process, the remediation process. >> and most of -- you guys have found a number of sophisticated tunnels that are usually found in this area. why do you think that is? >> i'm not exactly sure, but five of the eight most sophisticated tunnels that have been found since 1990 have been found inside the san diego sector. right now we know that increased border security is one of the reasons criminal smuggling organizations are looking to go under ground. additionally, they're looking to go out into the maritime environment. but the border patrol as a whole hits certain bench marks that really have increased border security. the benchmarks of 20,000 border patrol agents, 640 miles of fencing being installed. and improvements to our road network and the technology we
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use to detect people crossing the border. >> why is it so hard to find these tunnels? a layman would think, there must be ground penetrating radar and stuff. but, actually, you need human intelligence to really locate where these tunnels are. >> you wish it was that easy, but when a drug trafficking organization is going to invest all this time and money into a tunnel like this, very few people know about it and it's a collection of intelligence-driven enforcement. it's human intel, it's aerial surveillance, it's ground surveillance, it's bits and pieces of over heres from independent unilateral investigations being conducted on all the different cartels in mexico and their cells here in the united states. and then the most important thing about this investigation is the fantastic cooperation between the dea, the immigration and customs enforcement, and the border patrol and our fourth partner, the government of mexico in this investigation. all those agencies come
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together. they share ideas. they gather the intelligence and when the intelligence dictates the time is right, you take decisive action. and in this case, the seizure of a tunnel that we can tell you absolutely not a single gram of narcotics was able to flow through mexico, transgress the border and come up through the united states. >> a remarkable tunnel. thank you very much. coming up, we have new developments for fugitive filmmaker roman polanski. his lawyers want the case dismissed. they were in a california court today. jeffrey toobin joins us with the latest on that. we'll look at whether his fame has played a part in the fight to bring it hahim back to the u. and south carolina governor mark sandford's plea. we have wind. we have solar, obviously. we have lots of oil. i think natural gas is part of the energy mix of the future.
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this past september and is now fighting extradition back to the united states. no decision was made in court today. the question is, has his celebrity status helped or hurt his case? we'll speak to jeffrey toobin about that in a moment. but first, an up close look at polanski's triumphs and tragedies. here's erica hill. >> reporter: his life plays out like one of his films. spending his childhood in war-torn poland, polanski survived the occupation after his mother died in concentration camp. he left poland and in the 1960s began making movies. in 1968, he directed "rosemary's baby." the horror film became a classic. that same year, he married actress sharon tate and they quickly became one of hollywood's most celebrated couples. soon, they were expecting a child. but we all know what happened to tate and their unborn baby.
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the two murdered in the summer of 1969, brutally stabbed to death by disciples of charles manson, who on orders from him, went on a killing spree in los angeles. polanski attended the trial and in the early '70s returned to movies, directing another classic, "chinatown." >> hello, claude. where'd you get the midget? >> polanski became a friend of the movie's star, jack nicholson. and it was in 1977 at nixon's home that he had sex with a 13-year-old girl. he said it was consensual, but the girl said he raped her. polanski pleaded guilty to have an unlawful sex with an underage girl. but in 1978, before he was to be sentenced, polanski fled the state and flew back to europe, where he's remained ever since. he has continued to make movies, even winning an oscar for "the
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pianist." but that all changed this past september, when polanski was arrested in switzerland at the request of the united states, which wants polanski extradited to california to face justice. polanski is now under house arrest at his swiss chalet. prosecutors in l.a. want him behind bars, but some big names from hollywood are standing by his side, including martin sc e scorsese, woody allen. >> senior analyst jeffrey toobin has written a new, in-depth fascinating article on polanski for "the new yorker." jeff toobin joins us now. polanski pleaded guilty to having unlawful sex with a minor, statutory rape, why wasn't he charged with a more serious rape charge? >> he was charged with six counts, including intentional rape, but the victim in the case, 13-year-old samantha -- he last name is now geimer -- her
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lawyer said she didn't want to testify, she wanted no part of the case sw, so the prosecutorsd to accept a guilty plea to a lesser charge. that's the reason he got a pretty sweet deal back in 1977. >> in his own book, "roman by polanski," he wrote about the day of the arrest. he said, i was incredulous, i couldn't equate what had happened that day with rape in any form. but she tells a different story. >> and it's not coincidental, because his supporters have always portrayed this as well, she was a teenager and teenagers can consent to sex. if you read her grand jury testimony, you see that this was not consensual sex. whether you think teenagers can consent to sex or not, it's irrelevant to this case, because this was a case about sex forced
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on a drugged teenager, no doubt about it. >> and in terms of the judge in this case, was he unfair? >> that's why this case is so complicated and so interesting, because as awful as polanski's conduct was, as awful what he did was, frankly, the legal system treated him badly too. this judge, lawrence ritenban gave polanski a sentence of up to 90 days in prison. and said, if you do this time, you will be done. he did the time, but ritenban changed his mind and said, you know what, i am going to give you more time, i'm going to make you leave the country, i'm changing the rules of the game after i established those rules. that's what his lawyers were fighting in court today. and despite the awfulness of polanski's conduct, they have a somewhat compelling case that a wrong was done to him. >> so what do you think is ultimately going to happen?
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do you think he'll be extradited? >> i do think, ultimately, he'll be extradited. the treaty is very clear that statutory rape is a crime that you can be extradited for. i think he will be turned to los angeles. my sense is, even though there were not negotiations under way now, there will be some sort of an agreement that he will serve some additional time, perhaps a year, not a trivial thing for a 76-year-old man, but i think he's going to have to face justice in los angeles at long last. >> it's a fascinating article. it's in "the new yorker" right now. thanks. coming up next, he dodged impeachment, now governor mark sanford says he's ready to reconcile with his wife. the question, is she ready to take him back? and we're used to seeing reindeer this time of year, but pet deer? this one sleeps in a bed, eats spaghetti and eats ice cream. i can return it. of course, now on top of chevy's 5-year/100,000
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tonight. erica hill has the "360" news and business bulletin. >> anderson, there are new numbers tonight on the swine flu. the h1n1 virus has sickened
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about 50 million and killed about 10,000. this means one in six americans have had the illness. federal health officials releasing those new numbers today. house speaker nancy pelosi signaling she's open to a health care bill without a public option. a hint that she may support the new senate plan which does not offer one. this coming today despite the fact that the house approved its own version of reform last month, which did include a public option. congresswoman pelosi, of course, had previously insisted that public option was necessary for house approval. south carolina governor mark sanford says he still wants to reconcile with his first lady, jenny. he admits he hurt her greatly with his affair with his argentine mistress and does not resent her for not standing by her side through the controversy. and american's net worth up 5% to nearly $54 trillion in the third quarter. that's the second straight quarterly boost. and fueling it, a surge in stock prices and home values. and from just outside of
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akron, ohio, rather unusual family pet, meet dilly the deer. she was adopted by a veterinarian after being left for dead in the wilderness. she has her own bedroom, apparently loves ice cream and spaghetti, and yes, she's housebroken, anderson. >> really? i find that hard to believe. that's amazing. erica's, tonight's shot is more of a shout-out for our stellar "360" photojournalist. we have a photo of him manning the cameras as we went into the tunnel. that's neil going deep into the tunnel there, perhaps not the best shot. he's working on his birthday, turned 38 years today -- >> 38, right. >> he claims that's his age. we have another photo of him. here's the picture, neil kind of looking surprised and scared and definitely a little sweaty, considering it was pretty hot underground. that's neil inside the tunnel. neil, happy birthday from all of us. >> there he is live. >> live on television right now. the one and only. >> he's thrilled.
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>> coming up at the top of the hour, the serious side of the story, the battle beneath the u.s. mexican border, exclusively inside the most sophisticated tunnel they've ever found. be right back. blp
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prize just days after expanding the war in afghanistan. war and peace, how does he reconcile the two? is this a different president than the people voted for? his speech winning praise from some conservatives. the raw politics on that tonight. and later, director and molester, roman polanski. his case back in court. his big-name supporters still behind him. who they are still surprising to many. jeffrey toobin has a new look inside his strange and sordid past and joins us shortly. that's our "crime and punishment" segment tonight. but we begin with the tunnel, another one, even more sophisticated than the one we showed you a few years back. mexican authorities acting on information from the san diego tunnel task force uncovered it and busted about a dozen people inside. i want to set the scene right where we are. we're at the otay mesa border. it's the busiest checkpoint in the country. three quarters of a million trucks, about 5 million cars every year. there are trucks moving by us, you might hear them over the next hour or so. just behind us, you see a massive drill. u.s. authorities are drilling
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now, trying to locate the exact positioning of this tunnel on the u.s. side. this is where the border is. the border fence itself stretches for some 20 feet high. it's all along here. there's actually three large fences in this area. so coming over the fence is very difficult, over these three fences is very difficult. so now we're seeing drug traffickers, mexican drug cartels trying to figure out ways to tunnel underneath. and the tunnel they have just discovered is by far the most sophisticated one they've ever seen. the entry point is not very far on the other side of this border. it's a warehouse, you can see it right now, and that's where the entrance point is that we went to earlier today. take a look. this is a commercial warehouse in tijuana. we're just on the other side of the u.s./mexican border. you can see right over here, the border is right there. those are the trucks, actually, coming across the border right now. the border fence is right there, about 50 feet from where i'm standing. this looks like a regular commercial warehouse. the tunnel is hidden, concealed
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inside this warehouse. but if you first step in the warehouse, you would never know that anything illegal was going on here. the secret entrance is extraordinary. let me show it to you. it's in a small warren of rooms, and you come into what you think is a regular bathroom. there's a toilet here, a tile floor, looks like the bathroom is still under construction. but this entire floor is actually attached underneath to a hydraulic lift. so the entire floor lowers down. you can see it's now, it's about 6 or 7 inches lower from the wall. if it was in its full upright position, you wouldn't even know that this is a dropaway floor. to get underneath the bathroom floor, to show you the hydraulic equipment that mexican authorities have actually created a hole here, they put a ladder here so you've got to climb down. now, over here is the hydraulic equipment that is attached to the bathroom floor above. so the toilet that we saw is just up here, just in this room.
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they basically -- this is the kind of hydraulic lift that would be seen in an auto body store. a car would normally be put on that. and the entire bathroom floor is attached to this to lower the floor anytime they wanted substan entrance to this secret tunnel. there are large pieces of wood that were discovered here. these pieces of wood would be taken deeper into the tunnel and be used to shore up the sides of the tunnel. there's also four large blocks of styrofoam. authorities think that was used to try to muffle the sound of the drilling. as we said, this is the most sophisticated of a tunnel they've ever discovered, the most sophisticated one i've ever seen. there's lightbulbs in it, so there's an electrical system. this is actually an air vent. there's actually cool air circulating in here, so fresh air circulating, which is important the deeper you go. there's even a phone system. the phones still work. that way people inside the tunnel can communicate with anyone up above. but what's really remarkable here is what i'm about to show you.
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this is the motor works for an elevator. it's a primitive elevator, no doubt about it, but they brought this down here. this is the elevator itself. it's basically a large cart on wheels and we're going to take you down and show what happens then. you really get a sense when you're going down in this tunnel, just the amount of work it took to build this. look, you can really see the bore marks that were used to tunnel deep underground. it must have made a lot of noise. this is solid rock here that they are digging through. and they used, clearly, they used heavy machinery. look, this is all jackhammers, mining equipment. we're now 90 feet deep. and there's the electrical system is still in place, plugs here, the electrical box. still the ventilation system, the lights still -- whoa -- the lights still work down here and the phones are even this deep underground.
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all right. we've probably already crossed into the united states. as i showed you up at the top, outside the warehouse, it's a very short distance from this warehouse to the border. so we're probably already now into the united states. the question, of course, is where was this tunnel going. where in the united states was it going to pop up? this tunnel was never finished, because authorities discovered it in time. but it goes about 900 feet under ground. it's tall enough here, you can pretty much stand almost straight up. i'm 5'10", so it's probably almost 6 feet, i guess right here. this is solid rock that they are -- that they drilled through. so it took an awfully long time. you can imagine how difficult the conditions were down here. even though with the ventilation system and the primitive electrical system down here, it's still got to have been a daunting challenge.
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so authorities pretty sure a major drug cartel is behind this. not sure exactly which one. this might be some evidence. a lot of these sandbags say "sinaloa" right here, sinaloa, mexico. sinaloa is another state in mexico. there's a large drug cartel there, called the sinaloa cartel. it's possible the sinaloa cartel is behind this. at this point, they simply don't know who's responsible for digging this tunnel. come pretty much to the end of the tunnel. a lot of equipment still being stored here. as i said, this tunnel was never finished. u.s./mexican authorities discovered it in time and raided it. so no drugs, as far as we know, were ever brought through. there was no exit point into the u.s. they still were digging somewhere, authorities still trying to figure out exactly where the end point was going to be, but there's no telling how many other tunnels like this are being built right now somewhere along this border. joining us now is mike carney, the deputy special agent in charge of investigation for immigration and customs enforcement in san diego. thanks for being with us, mike.
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where was that tunnel going to come out in the united states? >> it was going to come up in a commercial warehouse not too far from the location we're at here. >> and do you know at this point who's behind the tunnel? i know there's theorys about the sinaloa cartel, perhaps. >> we don't know, specifically, but generally with these types of tunnels, there's a huge investment, and it's the cartels that finance them. >> and likely, it wasn't so much for bringing people across, because that would be too much of a security risk if people talked, so most likely for funneling drugs and money back to mexico. >> correct. the security of the tunnel is of the utmost importance. so the fewer people who knew about it, the better. >> how much would it cost to build a tunnel like that for a cartel? >> we're looking at upwards of $1 million for a tunnel of this length and sophistication. >> and you think they were working on it for more than two years? >> that's the information that we've received. >> you brought some of the equipment they were using. very primitive stuff, like a pick axe handle. this is some of the stuff you found inside the tunnel? >> these are some of the tools
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we received from the u.s. side of the tunnel. >> this is just an old jam hammer. >> an electrical jackhammer. >> so something like this, these things are heavy, working on this, have a couple of them going at all times? >> there's a digging crew and the simplicity of these tools is by design. to limit the sound that's produced from the digging operation. it takes longer, but makes it harder for law enforcement to detect. >> and what's this down here? this an aerator? >> this is an air blower. they had a series of pvc tubing connected to a number of these air blowers in an attempt to try to circulate the air inside the tunnel. >> how -- i mean, you find little gopher holes, you call them, literally underneath the fence -- how many tunnels do you actually find per year? >> tunnels of this level of sophistication, we've been averaging about one a year. >> one a year. but this is the most sophisticated you've seen? >> specifically on the mexican side, the entrance, the sophistication of the bathroom floor that raised and lowered, once that bathroom floor was up in place, it would be very hard to detect there was a tunnel
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underneath there. >> a great catch. congratulations, mike. nice job. >> thank you. >> really amazing. we'll have more about the tunnel. i'll talk about how the tunnel was discovered coming up later in the program. let us know what you think. join the live chat now under way at ac360.com. also up next, michael ware takes you to perhaps the deadliest city on earth. 248 hurkz murders this year alone and the violence is spilling over into america. we'll have details, michael ware in juarez. and later, president obama's nobel acceptance speech, getting the peace prize, using the word "war" more than three dozen times. reaction from president bush's former speech writer as well as others. we'll be right back. there's no way. i just c't swing a vacation.
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frankly, it is a world away. juarez is among the most dangerous places on earth right now. michael ware went on patrol through the streets, through the killing fields. again, a warning, his report does contain graphic and disturbing images. here is life and death in juarez. >> reporter: this footage is difficult to watch. these anguished cries, impossible to forget. relatives entering this building, seeking the bodies of their loved ones, executed by a mexican drug cartel. you're witnessing the pain of the mexican border town of juarez. the front line in the war on drugs. and this, a crime scene i just had to see for myself. there's so much violence that occurs here in juarez that the world just does not hear about. and now it's disconcerting to see this fresh paint here on these walls as an old woman makes her home in this building. for just two months ago, this literally was a corridor of blood.
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this building had been a drug rehabilitation center and one of the major cartels suspected that its rivals were recruiting foot soldiers from among the patients. so they came in this door and down this corridor, moving from room to room to room, executing everyone they found. while they're now trying to build a home, this is where 17 people died in yet another day of juarez violence. within two days of this attack, the death toll rose even higher when two survivors died in the hospital. and there is no discrimination to the slaughter. under these clothes lies a 7-year-old american boy. his father, the target, but the hit man chose not to let the child live. on this day, we're in juarez to
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see the horrors for ourselves. it's just before dusk as i approach a fresh crime scene. in juarez, 1,600 people died from drug-related violence last year. this year, the total's already well over 2,000. and today's total is already at 12. the man in that car was hit by cartel gunman, riddled with eight bullets. his passenger tried to flee, but only made it that far. this was yet another afternoon of killing in juarez. with a night of murder yet to follow. it's only 9:00. we're now going and joining this police patrol. since the killings this afternoon that we saw, there's already been another homicide bringing today's total to 13. every night, joint patrols like this one between local and federal police and mexican
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soldiers crisscross the city, trying desperately to stem the flow of blood. >> things were so bad that earlier in the year, the mexican president had to call in the military to help protect the city. for a short time, there was a lull in the violence, but it quickly returned. and now, it's worse than it's ever been before. by now it's close to 10:00 p.m. and the reports of violence are streaming in over the police radio. the patrollers just received another call on the radio to some kind of internet, but those lights there, that's america. it's the u.s. border. this reminds you just how close this war on drugs is being fought to american soil. but before the night is over, there is even more carnage to come. all this in our one afternoon and evening visit to this deadly city.
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this time, it's almost too much to bear. it's just after 11:00 and where you see those policemen gathered at that door, there's just been four more slayings. this time, all women. the early reports are that a gunman walked in that door and executed all of them, one of them a 12-year-old girl, another one 14, and in a gut-wrenching irony, all of this done with the american border crossing just here, 80 yards away. there can be no more pertinent reminder of the mexican blood that's being spilt in this war for the right to supply america's demand for illicit drugs. >> michael ware joins us from el
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paso, just across the border from juarez. el paso, ironically, now one of the safest small cities in the united states. michael, in juarez, does the public feel like the presence of all these security forces and the mexican military, do they feel like it's making a difference? >> reporter: no, absolutely not, anderson. in fact, it's quite the opposite. we spoke to so many people during our visit to juarez, see, that's juarez, what you see behind us right now. i'm standing on american soil. there's a fence and a train line below, and that's the city itself. indeed, our police patrol was up and down this area here and some of the murder scenes are just behind me. the people fear not just the cartels, but they watch the army and the police stand by as others are being killed. they know that many of the police are corrupt, that the military's doing nothing. yet on the other hand, we asked some of the soldiers, when you have an incident, do the local people help you? and the soldiers are telling us,
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they give us no help at all. so there's no respect from the people for the security forces and the few honest police and military aren't getting any help from a terrified population, anderson. >> and the death toll is rising. michael ware, appreciate it. thank you, michael. up next, we'll have more from here, the otay mesa crossing and this new tunnel discovered here later on in the program. we want to turn now to a wartime president accepting the nobel peace prize today. president barack obama mentioning war dozens of time in his acceptance speech. now under fire from some critics about that. some conservatives, including sarah palin, praising him about that. daifrdgerden, michael gerson, and tonya acker weigh in, coming up. great. come on in. would you like to see our new police department? yeah, all right. this way. and here it is. completely networked. so, anything happening, suz? she's all good.
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obama accepted the nobel peace prize. he's the fourth u.s. president to win the award, an honor that has put him in an awkward position. many people, not just his critics have said he hasn't earned the award, at least not yet, anyway. he was nominated shortly after taking office. in his acceptance speech, mr. obama said he understood the
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controversy over his selection and called his accomplishments slight. that wasn't the only elephant in the room. only nine days ago, he approved 30,000 more troops to go to afghanistan. candy crowley has tonight's raw politics. >> reporter: it was a moment congested with irony and complexity. >> i'm responsible for the deployment of thousands of young americans to battle in a distant land. some will kill and some will be killed. >> reporter: he was picking up the nobel peace prize, speaking forcefully in defense of war. >> i face the world as it is and cannot stand idle in the face of threats to the american people. >> reporter: for a minute there, it was like he was challenging george bush. >> for make no mistake, evil does exist in the world. >> reporter: news flash, republicans were pleased by a lot of what the president had to say. accused by critics of appearing weak in a tough world, the president spoke of morally justified war for humanitarian
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reasons, to aid an invaded country or in self-defense. and amidst domestic complaints, he has apologized too much for u.s. behavior, a different tone. a history lesson to remind the world. >> whatever mistakes we have made, the plain fact is this -- the united states of america has helped underwrite global security for more than six decades with the blood of our citizens and the strength of our arms. >> reporter: he spoke of the need for countries to band together against nation's like north korea or iran, trying to game the system. he spoke of the goal of a world free of nuclear weapons. but in the end, where we may have most succeeded, was in explaining how a president can oversee two wars and still accept a prize for peace. >> we can admit the intractability of deprivation and still strive for dignity. clear-eyed, we can understand that there will be war and still strive for peace. >> reporter: it is not just this moment that's congested with
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irony and complexity. the world is too. candy crowley, cnn, washington. >> president obama used the word "war" more than three dozen times in the speech. the early feedback, a lot of conservatives seemed to like what he said. so was it the right speech to give? joining me, senior political analyst, david gergen, also michael gerston, and also tanya acker, contributor for the huffington post. the president faced a big challenge today, how do you think he did? >> he's the first sitting president in all of american history who was given the nobel lecture while in office. the other three were out of office when they -- one of them didn't show, woodrow wilson, but the other two were both out of office when they gave the speech. in this case, i think he rose to the occasion. i did not think he was channeling george w. bush. there might have been a sentence here or a sentence there, maybe even a paragraph that george w. bush would have agreed with, but
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the overall thrust was very much president obama's. i think it reflected a philosophical turn of mind much more than a policy approach. and i think it's a speech that will live well through the years ahead. i think it will be well remembered as a statement of his personal vision of what the world might become and of a man who works hard to grapple with the complexities and the paradoxes of power. >> michael, former ambassador to the u.n., john bolton, under former president bush, had this to say about the president's speech. he told the "national review" that it, quote "followed the standard international leftist line, he played to the crowd and filled the speech with cliches from the american and international left by saying that america cannot act alone and the speech was also typical of obama in its self-centeredness and something for everybody approach." do you agree? >> i couldn't disagree more. that really is an example of, you know, we used to have bush derangement syndrome. that's really obama derangement syndrome.
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this was a complex, intellectually rich, impressive speech. it was professor obama giving a lecture and he was at his best. he took on those elephants in the room, the difficult issues in a straightforward fashion. he said that his qualifications for this were slight. he was disarmingly honest. and then when it came to the commitment that he has made in afghanistan, he was completely unapologetic. he talked about the use of force being a moral necessity in some cases. he talked about america being a force for moral good, about the reality of evil. this was a very american speech. he didn't speak as kind of the citizen of the world as sometimes he has in the past. he talked about america's important role. i actually got an e-mail from a military officer that was serving overseas today that was just deeply grateful that the president talked about the essential role that the military plays in preserving the peace. it was, i think, effective in that way.
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>> tanya, the fact that today's speech was cheered in some ways by sarah palin and newt gingrich, i mean, is that a marker of failure from the liberal perspective? >> well, i find it so puzzling, because if you parse through what he said in the speech, these are really a lot of the same themes that he sounded during the campaign. he's always been hawkish on afghanistan. he's always been very clear that that was the war, as president, that he was going to fight. he's always sounded these themes of going to war when necessary. i mean, i think the interesting thing you're hearing from conservatives now is that they're sort of suggesting that this is some vindication of the bush policy when it isn't. what was at issue in the bush presidency was not, do you go to war, but it was how and under what circumstances do you do so? i think what this president has set forth, like every president in the history of this nation, he's willing to commit arms in the defense of this country, but he will do it in a way that comports with international law. >> david, did he overcome the potential criticism he faced for
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accepting this award? i mean, early on, a lot of conservatives in particular were very critical of the fact that he was nominated and was going to accept by giving this kind of a speech did he kind of overcome that? >> i think he did. i think it's faded as an issue, anderson. now the issue becomes, well, what did he say and what does it mean for american foreign policy, what does it mean for the world? i think he treated it with proper humility. i agree with everything michael said. i think michael put it well. and i think he now has invited us to have a conversation about what it is to have a just war. i don't know about michael, but i heard the speech, in effect, say he thought afghanistan was a just war, but he did not think iraq was a just war. and there was a sharp departure from what much of george w. bush stood for. >> michael, is that what you heard as well? >> no, not really. philosophically, there were
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obviously differences in the presidents in the two speeches. but president obama made a statement that human dignity were the basis of human peace. that could have been taken from bush's second inaugural. and i don't say that as criticism. it shows the bipartisan commitments of american foreign policy that are rooted in a democratic internationalism. a belief that certain ideals are universal, not culturally relevant. he made that point in the speech. you know, these were very mainstream points, but very welcome coming from obama, who sometimes has not taken this approach in the past. >> we're going to have to leave it there. michael gerston, david gergen, tanya acker, appreciate it. thank you. still ahead, new developments in the roman polanski extradition case. will the esteemed direct have to finally face prison and has his fame helped or hurt him. and much more on the sophisticated tunnel that took years to build before the u.s./mexico border. we'll show you more of what we found today. some pharmacists only dispense prescriptions. your walgreens pharmacist also dispenses wisdom...
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the roman polanski case. his lawyers in court today asking for his 1978 rape conviction to be thrown out. the latest on that ahead. but first, erica hill as a "360" bulletin. >> anderson, the fbi believes the five americans arrested in a house in eastern pakistan over possible terrorism links are, in fact, the same men recently reported missing from the washington, d.c., area. now, the agency did not identify the suspects, but did say a -- but said a special agent and two other government officials have spoken with some of the men. meantime, pakistani police now have arrested a sixth man, the father of one of those five suspects. a terrifying moment in new york's times square, where a plains clothed police officers chased an alleged scam artist through sidewalks. the two exchanged gunfire that shattered windows on broadway. the 25-year-old suspect was killed after he allegedly fired a stolen pistol at the officer. a "360" follow-up tonight. a man accused of secretly taping
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espn sports reporter erin andrews in the nude using hotel room peepholes to get that footage and then posting it online will plead guilty to a federal stalking charge. 45-year-old michael barrett will enter that plea next week. and michael jackson's father going to have to wait until next month before a judge decides if he will get a monthly allowance from the pop star's estate. a los angeles judge today delayed arguments on that petition until january 28th. joe jackson is asking for as much as $20,000 a month, anderson. >> all right. another reminder, let us know what's on your mind tonight. join the live chat at ac360.com. when we come back, i'll be talking with two more members of the san diego tunnel task force about their incredible discovery. really the most sophisticated drug tunnel we have ever seen underneath the u.s. border. getting exclusive look at it tonight. only see it here on "360." it's got a secret entrance straight out of a spy movie. also, later, roman polanski's court appeal and the life leading up to it.
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we're back at the otay mesa border crossing, where they've discovered this incredibly sophisticated tunnel built by drug traffickers underneath the border. i want to show you where we are on the map, outside of san diego, north of tijuana. otay mesa, the country's busiest border crossing. and i want to take you, show you a little bit of what we saw inside the tunnel today in an exclusive look you'll only see here on "360." this is the most sophisticated tunnel they've found and they've found some pretty sophisticated ones here, especially in this area, over the last couple of years. this one has an elevator that actually takes you down 90 feet underground. take a look. >> it must have made a lot of noise. this is solid rock here that they are digging through. and clearly, they used heavy machinery. look, this is all jackhammers, mining equipment. we're now 90 feet deep and there's the electrical system is still in place, there's plugs here. there's an electrical box.
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there's still the ventilation system. the lights still -- whoa -- the lights still work down here and the phones are even this deep underground. all right we probably already crossed into the united states. as i showed you up at the top outside the warehouse, it's a very short distance from this warehouse to the border. so we're probably already now into the united states. the question, of course, is where was this tunnel going. where in the united states was it going to pop up? this tunnel was never finished because authorities discovered it in time. joining me now is stephen tomaski, assistant special agent with the federal drug enforcement agency in san diego. stephen, had you ever seen a tunnel like this before? >> no. this is a fantastic tunnel. it's probably the second biggest
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we've ever gotten and it just shows you to the extent that these dangerous drug trafficking organizations will go to circumvent border security. as border security is done well on top of the land, the drug trafficking tunnels get created and they try to go underground. >> behind us, there's this huge drill. you guys are basically looking to find where the tunnel is on the u.s. side, ultimately to drill through it to then, what, flood it or destroy it? >> one of the big they thinks we need to do after discovering a tunnel is to remediate that tunnel -- >> remediate means? >> fill it up with concrete so it can't be used again. >> that's what that massive drill is -- >> that's part of this process, the remediation process. >> and most of -- you guys have found a number of sophisticated tunnels that are usually found in this area. why do you think that is? >> i'm not exactly sure, but five of the eight most sophisticated tunnels that have been found since 1990 have been found inside the san diego sector. right now we know that increased border security is one of the
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reasons criminal smuggling organizations are looking to go under ground. additionally, they're looking to go out into the maritime environment. but the border patrol as a whole hits certain bench marks that really have increased border security. the benchmarks of 20,000 border patrol agents, 640 miles of fencing being installed. and improvements to our road network and the technology we use to detect people crossing the border. >> why is it so hard to find these tunnels? a layman would think, there must be ground-penetrating radar and stuff. but, actually, you need human intelligence to really locate where these tunnels are. >> you wish it was that easy, but when a drug trafficking organization is going to invest all this time and money into a tunnel like this, very few people know about it and it's a collection of intelligence-driven enforcement. it's human intel, it's aerial surveillance, it's ground surveillance, it's bits and
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pieces of overhears from independent june lateral investigations being conducted on all the different cartels in mexico and their cells here in the united states. and then the most important thing about this investigation is the fantastic cooperation between the dea, the immigration and customs enforcement, and the border patrol and our fourth partner, the government of mexico in this investigation. all those agencies come together. they share ideas. they gather the intelligence and when the intelligence dictates the time is right, you take decisive action. and in this case, the seizure of a tunnel that we can tell you absolutely not a single gram of narcotics was able to flow through mexico, transgress the border and come up into the united states. >> a remarkable tunnel. thank you very much. coming up, we have new developments for fugitive filmmaker roman polanski. his lawyers want the case
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against him dismissed. they were in a california court today. jeffrey toobin joins us with the latest on that. we'll look at whether his fame has played a part in the fight to bring him back to the u.s. and later, shamed, but asking his wife for a second chance, south carolina governor mark sanford's plea to save his marriage after that affair. we'll be right back. ather ahead. if you want to access 10 gigs of music you just downloaded to your hard drive, push here. and if you want to pull away from it all, you can push here. the all-new-40-gig hard drive nav and entertainment system on the 2010 lacrosse. from buick. it's the new class of world class. to get out of those tubs? when we want. when we're in the mood. it's our choice. announcer: today, guys with erectile dysfunction can be ready with another dosing option from cialis. cialis for daily use is a clinically proven
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spending his childhood in war-torn poland, polanski survived the nazi occupation after his jewish mother died in a concentration camp. he left poland and in the 1950s began making movies. the success he found in europe would land him in hollywood. in 1968, he directed "rosemary's baby." the horror film became a classic and made polanski one of the world's most sought-after directors. that same year, he married actress sharon tate and they quickly became one of hollywood's most celebrated couples. soon, they were expecting a child. but we all know what happened to tate and their unborn baby. the two murdered in the summer of 1969, brutally stabbed to death by disciples of charles manson, who on orders from him, went on a killing spree in los angeles. polanski attended the trial and in the early '70s returned to movies, directing another classic, "chinatown." >> hello, claude.
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where'd you get the midget? >> polanski became a friend of the jack in this case he conicholson and it his home that he had sex with a 13-year-old girl. he said it was consensual, but in testimony the girl said polanski gave her convey lewds and rapped her. polanski pleaded guilty, but in 1978 before he was to be sentenced, polanski fled the state and flew back to europe where he's remained ever since. he has continued to make movies, even winning an oscar for pianist. that changed this past semtd when polanski was arrested in switzerland at the request of the united states, which wants polanski extradited to california to face justice. polanski is now under house arrest at his swiss chalet. prosecutors in l.a. want him behind bars, but big names from
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hollywood are standing by his side including martin score cease, woody allen and harvey wi winestein. >> jeffrey toobin has wrote a new article on polanski for the new yorker and it's called the celebrity defense. jeff toobin joins us now. he pleaded guilty to having unlawful sex with a minor. why wasn't he charged with a more serious rape charge? >> he was charged with six counts, including intentional rape. but the victim in the case, 13-year-old samantha -- her last name is now gymer, her lawyer said she didn't want to testify. so the prosecutors had to accept a guilty plea to a lesser charge. that's the reason he got a pretty sweet deal back in 1977. >> in his own book roman he wrote about the day he was
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arrested in 1977 for the rape. he says quote -- >> but she told a completely story. has her rape, which was the original subject whole trial, been buried under decades of intrigue about this case? >> it's not coincidental because his supporters have portrayed this as, well, she was a teenager and teenagers can consent to sex. if you read her grand jury testimony, you see that this was not consensual sex. whether you think teenagers can consent to sex or not, it's irrelevant to this case, because this was a case about sex forced on a drugged teenager, no doubt about it. >> and in terms of the judge in this case, was he unfair? >> that's why this case is so complicated and so interesting, because as awful as polanski's case conduct was, as awful as what he did was, frankly the
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legal system treated him badly, too. this judge gave polanski a sentence of up to 90 days in prison. he said if you do this time, you will be done. he did the time. but he changed his mind and said, you know what? i'm going to give you more time. i am going to make you leave the country. i'm changing the rules of the game after i establish those rules. that's what his lawyers were fighting in court today, and despite the awfulness of polanski's conduct, they have a somewhat compelling case that a wrong was done to him. >> so what do you think is ultimately going to happen? you think he'll be extradited? >> i think ultimately he will be extradited. treaty is very clear that statutory rape is an crime that you can be extra dadited for. i think he will be returned to los angeles. my sense is even though they were not negotiations under way now, there will be some sort of
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agreement that he will serve additional time, perhaps a year, not a trivial thing for a 76-year-old man. but i think he's going to have to face justice in los angeles at long last. >> it's a fascinating article in "the new yorker" right now. he dodged impeachment, and now mark sand ford is ready to reconcile with his wife. is she ready to take him back? we're used to seeing reindeer this i'm of year, but pet deer. this one sleeps in a bed and loves ice cream. we'll explain ahead. more than the medicines in tylenol or aleve. the medicine in advil is the #1 doctor recommendation for joint pain. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil. brand over the last decade... ...is now over the counter at walmart as prevacid 24hr - to treat frequent heartburn. over the counter. unbeatable prices. talk about a relief. save money. live better. walmart.
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tonight. erica. >> there are new numbers tonight on the swine flu. the h1n1 virus has sickened about 50 million americans, killed some 10,000. basically 1 in 6 americans have the illness. they're releasing the new estimates today. nancy pelosi is signalling she's open to a health care bill without a public option. a hint she may support the new senate plan, which does not offer one. this coming today despite the fact that the house approved its own version of reform last month that included a public option. pelosi, of course, had previously insisted the public opposite was necessary. mark sanford says he still wants to reconcile with his first lady, jenny. he admits he hurt her greatly with his affair and does not resent her for not standing by his side through the controversial. a hopeful sign of economic recovery, america's net worth up 5%. that's the second straight
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quarterly boost, and fueling it is a surge in stock prices and home values. from just outside of akron, ohio, an unusually family bet. this deer was adopted by a veterinarian after left for dead in the wilderness. she loves ice cream and spaghetti and she's house broken, anderson. >> i find that hard to believe. that's amazing. tonight's shot is a shout o out for neil. he's working on his birts day. he turned 38 years old today. he claims that's his age. we have another photo of him. here's the picture. i think we're going to -- he's going to charge forever. neil looking surprised and scared and definitely a little sweaty considering it was pretty hot underground. that's neil inside the tunnel.

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