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every year. >> interesting. david culver, thank you so much for that report. you could follow me on facebook, instagram, twitter and the tiktok at jake tapper and tweet the show at "the lead." and if you miss an episode, you could listen to "the lead" from once you get your podcasts. just like grapes hanging there. it is delicious. our coverage continues with wolf blitzer in "the situation room." see you tomorrow. happening now, a chilling new threat to kill, to kill law enforcement personnel in the wake of the search of former president trump's florida home. and now new claims from trump about what agents seized during their search. january 6 select committee member adam kinzinger will join us just ahead. also trump's former lawyer rudy giuliani now a target, a target in the criminal investigation into efforts to try to flip the 2020
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presidential election results in georgia. and cnn is on the ground right now in afghanistan exactly one year after the taliban takeover of the country now plunged into poverty, how women and girls are once again subjugated to unforgiving rule. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, and you're in "the situation room." new charges tonight against the pennsylvania man who said he wanted to kill -- to kill law enforcement personnel. the latest in a very disturbing wave of threats following the fbi search of former president trump's mar-a-lago estate. cnn national correspondent kristin holmes is working the story. >> reporter: days after the fbi search of former president trump's mar-a-lago home, new graphic threats to the fbi revealed.
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courts showing social media posts against federal law enforcement by a pennsylvania man. quote, my only goal is to kill more of them before i drop. one quote read, if you work for the fbi, then you deserve to die read another. this just the latest episode. last week an ohio man killed after attempting to breach an fbi field office in cincinnati, ohio. an armed trump supporters protested outside of the fbi office in phoenix, arizona. the fbi and department of homeland security warning of violent threats against federal law enforcement, courts and government personnel and facilities following the search. now, bipartisan calls for transparency into the search. in a letter to the director of national intelligence, the top democrat and republican on the senate intelligence committee asking for information on the reasoning behind the search. and the documents seized beyond what was revealed in the unsealed warrant. >> i'm confident that the intelligence community will do a damage assessment. that is i think fairly routine
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when there has been the potential risk of disclosure of national security information or classified information. >> reporter: this as former president trump, his allies and aides work to question the search. >> we have this list from the fbi. but we don't have conclusive as to whether or not this is classified material and whether or not it rises to the level of the highest classified material. >> reporter: over the weekend, new details on the june meeting between investigators and trump's attorneys at the palm beach resort. sources telling cnn one of trump's lawyers signed a letter asserting there was no more classified information being stored on the florida property after justice officials left with classified materials. yet the unsealed property receipt from monday's search listed classified documents as being seized by the fbi. including some with a high level, quote, top secret sci designation. now trump accusing the fbi of taking, boxes of documents protected by attorney/client and executive privilege as well as claiming they took his three
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passports including one that had expired. and just moments ago we learned that the department of justice opposes releasing the details of that affidavit that led to the search of mar-a-lago. they say that if revealed it would show a road map of what they're investigation actually looks like. and they continued by saying that they want to protect grand jury secrecy as well as witnesses, noting that in this probable cause affidavit they included very sensitive information about these witnesses. but wolf, all of this just goes to show the seriousness of this criminal probe into the mishandling of documents. >> very serious indeed. thank you very much for that report. there are also new developments right now in the investigation into efforts by trump and his allies to try to flip the 2020 presidential election results in georgia. rudy giuliani has been told by prosecutors he's a target in the criminal probe. sara murray is working the story for us.
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the man once known as america's mayor is now, as i said, the target of a criminal investigation. what is the latest? >> reporter: that is right, wolf. attorney for rudy giuliani was informed this morning that he is now a target in this investigation. one of the other attorneys confirmed that to cnn. and this is remarkable. it is one of the people closest to the president who we have learned is now a target, a target in this investigation in georgia. and as a reminder the da is looking into the efforts to over turn the 2020 election to see if ty crimes were committed and this is a warning shot to giuliani that he may have done something wrong and he is now a target. that she may decide to bring an indictment against him. and it is a remarkable time. because giuliani is slate the to appear later this week before a special grand jury there georgia. he is still going to be there on wednesday for that appearance. but it is unclear exactly what questions he's going to answer. costello tells cnn if the
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prosecutors there think that giuliani is going to answer questions about conversations he had with his former client donald trump, they're delusional, wolf. >> news right now about senator lindsey graham's attempts to avoid giving testimony in that georgia probe. what are you learning about that, sarah? >> reporter: that is right, graham is also been subpoenaed to appear before the special grand jury. he is been fighting this in court. and he lost in a federal court today. a federal judge said she would not quash this subpoena. instead the judge said that there were areas of inquiry beyond his legislative pursuits that might be worth delving into so that means it goes back to the court in fulton county, georgia. lindsey graham is not too happy. they are planning to appeal and he maintains any conversations that he had related to the ballots in georgia had to do with the work that he was doing as a senator. now one judge today clearly is not buying that. we'll see how his appeal
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proceeds, wolf. >> sara murray, thank you very much. let's get to more on all of this. joining us now, chief political correspondent dana bash and phil mudd and state attorney for palm beach county down in florida, dave ehrenberg. do you agree with the justice department that releasing the affidavit, which they reiterate implicates and i'm quoting now, highly classified materials could undermine their investigation if they were to release this affidavit? >> i do. if you look at what the government is saying about this, there is two things. there is witnesses, also evidently a confidential human in informant. if you get that information and even if it is redacting, you tell me if you're at the inner circle at mar-a-lago, what is the first thing your going to do is say who said what and soon as you find a witness that person is going to be ostracized. that goes a step forward for the informant who was key to telling the fbi that there are documents
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still in that building. that is mar-a-lago. remember we had a lawyer for president trump certify that there were documents so somebody flipped on the the president. i w i would be looking for who that informant was if that stuff is e.r.a. leased. they should release it. people will try to hunt down who informed, wolf. >> that is a good point. david, this intelligence bullet just released is warning of threats against specific people including a man you know, the federal judge magistrate who approved the search warrant for mar-a-lago. how is he holding up amid these specific threats? >> wolf, he's holding up fine. he's a well respected magistrate. he had a a lot of respects on both sides of the aisle because he works hard and has a lot of experience and he does justice without fear or favor. but it is a shame, a really awful stuff that he's been the subject of threats. these threats and lies about federal law enforcement need to
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stop and it is coming from the party of law and order. they're the ones sowing mistrust toward law enforcement and mistrust leads to hate and hate leads to violence as we saw last week and yet again we saw this in simpson where someone was radicalized to becoming a domestic terrorist because he believes in lies told by people who know they are lying. >> that is really, really sad. dana, both democrats and republicans in congress, they are demanding answers from the u.s. justice department and from the fbi. but are they motivated by very different reasons? >> yes. very, very different reasons, wolf. you heard republicans over the weekend and even since argue that they want more information from the fbi, from the doj. their motivation is because they are hoping that it undermines both the doj and fbi. and ultimately their case against donald trump and just the impetuous for going in.
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democrats are hoping for more information because they believe that it would bolster the case against the former president. you know, both things likely are not true. but it doesn't necessarily answer the question that you asked phil right out of the gate, which is whether or not the doj feels that they can release the affidavit that is supporting sworn documents that went along with the search warrant that we got last friday. it doesn't seem right now that they're going to do that. >> you know, phil mudd, you're a former cia and fbi official. how do you respond to the defense, the argument that former president trump had -- he claims he a standing order to declassify all of this kind of material. what is your point? >> let me hold a little bit of laughter here. let me give you how declassify a works. we were requested by the white
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house before the iraq war to release a bunch of information for colin powell to speak to the u.n. that information included intercepted communications. if you recall. i'm not saying that briefing went well but it included a lot of classified information. a specific event, the president goes to the intel guys and say i want it declassified for a specific purpose. this is not like the pope saying i bless 200 boxes sitting in a warehouse. you needed an event typically, you need a purpose and you go to the intel guys and say de classify this and if there is anything dangerous in there, for example something that exposed an informant that might be killed, make sure to take it out. don't go to a bunch of boxes and say voila, it is done, that is nuts. >> have to protect sources and methods. go ahead, dana. >> i want to add that there is something so important that we need to say over and over again and evan perez our justice correspondent said this from the
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minute we saw the criminal -- the potential criminal charges that could be involved here when we saw the search warrant on friday and that is let's just say that everything that the fbi took was not classified. it doesn't mean that there wasn't a crime committed. it could have been declassified. i'm not saying it was. but let's just say that forge argument's sake it was all declassified. it is still -- there is still a potential for a crime to be committed by holding on to those documents. >> dave, this is significant. rudy giuliani has just reacted to being told he's a target in that georgia criminal investigation. watch what he just had to say. >> it is just further desecration of the sixth amendment. i was his lawyer of record in that case. the statements that i made are either attorney/client privilege
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between me and him or being made on his behalf in order to defend him. when you start -- when you start turning around lawyers into defendants, when their defending your clients, we're starting to live in a fascist state. >> so he could be in serious trouble. he's now the target and that is a word in this criminal investigation. what do you think? >> at the beginning of this investigation, wolf, fannie willis, the district attorney in fulton county said she would look at lies made to legislative bodies. who made the lies. it was rudy giuliani. and there is no exception for lawyers. i don't know what he's talking about. he went before the legislative bodies of georgia and he said 10,000 dead people voted. he soaid that workers with putting out ballots from suitcase and he was told they were lies and he said it anyways. that is why he's facing up to five years in prison. he needs to be careful because they don't have hair dye in
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prison. he's facing real kwenss. >> thank you very much. former president trump reportedly tried to pass a message to the u.s. attorney general merrick garland. what did it say? we'll talk about it with adam kinzinger. that is next. advocate caitlinp his car at promptly 10am. hi, are you roger? berglund. with the honda accord? yes i am. it's right over there. will i be getting? and he loves that caitlin pays him on the spot. yep, rog. it's the little things that drive you happy. we'll drive you happy at carvana. we strip in the community garden. i've been stripping here for years.
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more now on the fbi and homeland security department's warning of threats against law enforcement, courts and government personnel and facilities all in the wake of the fbi search of former president trump's florida home. and joining us now, adam kinzinger of illinois, a key member of the foreign affairs committee and also a u.s. air force veteran who served in both afghanistan and iraq. thanks so much for joining us. as you probably know by now. you've seen this joint fbi department of homeland security bulletin. it is now warning of what they call unprecedented violent threats in the wake of the search of mar-a-lago. do you hold the former president donald trump responsible for inciting his supporters? >> yeah, absolutely. 100%, wolf. so, i mean, i posted a thread somebody put up of a number of folks on tiktok that were putting out, you know, not just
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anti-government, but really threats to violence, pictures of their guns saying it is time, we're coming. i mean, this is ridiculous. i mean, it is ridiculous obviously for what the former president has done in terms of saying this is an attack on my home. i did nothing wrong and of course the little bit that we do know it seems like there is certainly at least good reason for the fbi to have done what they did. but then members of congress, senators, you know, any republican elected official out there that rushes to be the first on television or the first to twitter to basically condemn the fbi, i mean, look, i'll tell you as a guy that grew up in the right and grewp as a republican, there has always been a strain of people that believe that the government is, you know, out there to get them. that the fbi represents that part of the government that is out there to get people. this stokes that. it's really dangerous and i fear it could get worse unless people are way more responsible. >> clearly the fbi and the
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department of homeland security fear the same thing. "the new york times" is reporting, congressman, that former president trump tried to pass a message along to the attorney general merrick garland, saying, and i'm quoting now, the country is on fire, what can i do to reduce this -- to reduce the heat. did you strike you as odd that the man that set the fire apparently tried to ask the attorney general to put it out? >> yeah, i mean, it is a creepy message to be honest with you. just like frankly donald trump and his supporters have become quite creepy in how they're acting. and what they're threatening. i don't know what it means. only donald trump in his own head knows what that means. but it does strike me as something like, you know, what you hear from the mafia. if you want your store to be secure, give us money. we'll make sure you're secure, when there was never a threat in the first place. i think, look, to every republican out there that is knee-jerk reaction is to defend
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this guy, i know people are frustrated that merrick garland did not move faster on some of the january 6 stuff and i don't think it is a man to overreact and do it too quickly. it takes a lot information for him to do that and for him to approve a raid on mar-a-lago, to go after what appears to be classified information, there had to be good reason and i encourage anybody in a position of authority to take some time to figure out what this is about you jump on the donald trump bandwagon on this. >> good point. the explanations for this from mr. trump and some of your fellow republicans range from brushing it off as not a big deal, to conspiracies about planted documents. but just how serious was the risk to national security to have these highly sensitive classified documents stashed away at a resort and event space. >> well, look, some of the things i've heard, just kind of reported on open source that some of the classifications of
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the documents were such that you can't even talk about what the classification was because the classification in and of itself is classified. so that would imply these are some serious situations and nobody should have access to these except for the few in government that are currently in government at the time. i mean, the explanations for donald trump fearing stuff was planted, to all of a sudden saying he just mentally declassified this stuff, to saying well people take work home all of the time, i mean, just like january 6, when it started out as antifa and then it was the fbi and then just a bunch of tourists and then a bunch of people that were misunderstood. there is always an evolving explanation. but that evolving explanation is always a lie and it points to the fact that donald trump knew who he was doing. so i don't know the details of the raid. but it certainly seems like donald trump's explanation is not accurate. >> before i let you go, the only
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other republican on the january 6 select committee, congress woman liz cheney faces steep odds in her primary tomorrow out in wyoming. what will it say about your party if she were to lose her seat? >> well, i this it shows that the party is in a bad place. look, we're standing up against evil. liz cheney is standing up against evil. and say this, i put out this message is people sit around and they dream about the day they get to do it and very few people get that chance to stand up against evil. and as you've seen in congress, many that do get that chance don't. she has fought a valiant fight. her fight is not over regardless of what happens on tuesday. and i think it said a lot about the party if she loses. it said a lot about the party that we're quick to say defund the fbi and support a guy like donald trump. >> thank so much for joining us. >> any time, wolf. coming up, u.s. intelligence
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the fbi search of former trump's mar-a-lago resort has his florida home back in the spotlight right now. but security concerns around the property go back almost to the start of his presidency. cnn's brian todd is working this part of the story for us. ryan, what is the latest? >> we're learning knew details about how mar-a-lago has been a
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security nightmare from the day a chinese national snuck on the property with what was called a modern day burglars toolkit to the concerns about top secret documents sitting in a vulnerable place at the facility. new concerns tonight that donald trump's florida resort, mar-a-lago did not meet the standards needed to store top secret classified documents. >> you have this perfect storm of intelligence, interest and poor security. all in one place in florida. >> reporter: according to a review by cnn's kevin lip tack, security has come into question on several occasions in recent years. one night in 2017 at the resort when trump and then japanese leader shinzo abe consulting on a national security issue, club guests were close enough to take photos like these. in view of the guests on the patio, documents were illuminated by the light of a cell phone. >> the fact that he has these documents lying around and shares it with a foreign
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national that is a prime minister and who knows who else is incredibly serious and it shows a general lack of understanding of how our national security system works. >> reporter: another post from a mar-a-lago guest showed the guest standing with an aide who he said held the president's nuclear launch codes satchel. it was unclear how close the guest got to the satchel. in 2019, a chinese business woman was arrested for trespassing at mar-a-lago. >> she carried into mar-a-lago a modern day burglars toolkit. >> including a thumb drive, a laptop and external hard drive and four cell phones. prosecutors said they later found in her hotel room a device to detect hidden cameras and thousands of dollar in cash. one intelligence veteran worries about who else could have breached the compound at any point. >> if i were a hostile intelligence service, i would have tried to recruit a maintenance person, a maid, middle management, a secretary, one of the people that comes and
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goes within mar-a-lago all of the time. >> reporter: in 2018, while the president and first lady were at mar-a-lago, a college freshman was able to get on to the grounds by walking through a tunnel from the beach. prosecutors said he was screened for weapons by the secret service at some point. but wasn't stopped from entering the property. even though he wasn't supposed to be there. >> it was just waiting for disaster. you could walk into the pool, there is nobody standing there. >> reporter: author lawrence lemmer has written a book on mar-a-lago and said he's been on the estate several times. trump's personal attitude toward security is there is the problem. >> he's comfortable. because he has to be adored. he can't stand to be alone. he wants to have people around him all of the time celebrating. so when he walks into mar-a-lago, people stand up. he needs that. he's hungry for that. >> reporter: regarding the latest reporting of sensitive documents remaining at mar-a-lago, cnn has reported that one of trump's attorneys claimed earlier this summer that no classified material remained
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at mar-a-lago. they said he used his presidential prerogative but they have not informed of a formal process taking place. >> thank you very much. joining us now, cnn political analyst carl bernstein, one of the journal ifl who exposed the watergate scandal. of all of the lines that richard nixon crossed, was he ever willing to put the country's national security in jeopardy as former president trump has by taking top secret classified information to his florida beach club? >> no. what nixon did do was use national security policy to his own political advantage. but we need to look at the trump presidency and at donald trump as an event in the history of this country, unlike anything
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we've seen. we have a president of the united states, donald trump, who we know demonstrably is a seditionist president. we know of his criminality beyond doubt. we know of his instability and all of those things are known particularly by members of the republican party on capitol hill who have been so craven that they haven't spoken out about what they know. and i think that that is something that we really need to look at and could talk about perhaps a little bit now. >> that is a good point. in the wake of the fbi search of mar-a-lago, carl, trump and his allies have fueled anger and distrust toward some of our nation's bedrock institutions including the fbi and the justice department, forward courts for that matter as well. did you ever think you would see a former president of the united states show such littregard for these key american institutions. >> no.
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almost everything that donald trump did as president and as an ex-president is unlike anything we've seen. we have donald trump and a far right republican party which is enthralled to his authoritarianism and excesses and why donald trump in part has managed to produce in terms of the legislative goals, the judicial goals of the far right, of mitch mcconnell and the judiciary, of authoritarianism and to the point of really moving toward the acceptance of hatred in this country. the hatred of some religious groups, the hatred of some ethnicities. not to say that it is the policy of the republican party, but rather that the individuals in the leadership of the republican party have not made it their business to say this is not our
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agenda. donald trump's authoritarianism, that is not our agenda. we haven't had that. and i think one of things thatted has to do with journalism, with our reporting. i don't know of many reports on capitol hill, many national reporters understand from their sources who are assistants and staff of most of the leaders of the republican party on the hill in the senate, a great number of house members, they are being told how their bosses are in private despise donald trump, hold him in utter contempt, think he is a criminal, think he is dangerous. that is what many members of the senate say, their aides say to me and others. same in the house. and yet we allow the stories to go on that as if there is great belief in this president among these same republican leaders and members of the congress. we need -- i did a story back
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oh, a year or two ago, two years ago, saying that 21 members of the senate, according to their aides, despised donald trump, hold him in contempt and i named them. and there was maybe one or two denials from those senators. i got a call the next day from a republican senator. he said, carl, the number is really closest to 40. this is the way donald trump -- these republicans in the leadership know who he is. they understand the danger to the country posed by him. and yet they are so craven, to afraid of being unelected, so afraid of being primaried that they will not do what the republicans during the richard nixon conspiracy did, get up and say, we cannot have criminality in our president, former president and he must be held accountable and indeed we are now seeing a president, a former president who probably may face
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indictment in three different cases. we don't know that he will. but it certainly is possible. >> certainly it possible. carl bernstein, thank you very much for joining us. we really appreciate it. just ahead, it's been one year since the taliban took over afghanistan's capital. we're about to go back live to kabul for a firsthand look at what life is like under taliban rule. that's next. o o you want to leave behind? that's your why. it's your purposose, and wewe will work with you every step of the way to achieve it. - [narrator] every three minutes, a child is born with a cleft condition. without surgery, some will die. those who do survive face extreme challenges. operation smile rks to heal children born with cleft conditions. we need you. there are still millions in dire need of healing. go to today and become a monthly supporter, or call. (gentle music)
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watch this. >> this is a site i honestly thought i would never see. scores of taliban fighters and just behind us the u.s. embassy compound. many women are afraid they will not be allowed to go to school. they will not be allowed to work. >> they could go to the school and continue their education. but -- >> so like i'm wearing? >> not like you. but covering their face. >> cover the face? >> so yeah. >> why do they have to cover their face. >> because it is islam. >> is it in islam that you have to wear a -- >> of course. >> and clarissa is back in kabul for us. clarissa is joining us live. how much of afghans lives actually changed over this past year, since the taliban took over? >> reporter: well, wolf, it is been a dramatic change. and for some people, the taliban, we saw them celebrating on the streets of kabul today,
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the victory against the american occupiers. but for many other people in this city and across the country, today was another day of mourning. they are faced with so many challenges, wolf, from the devastating economic situation, the humanitarian disaster, human rights issues and most pertinently the issue of girls education. girls above sixth grade still cannot attend school despite repeated promises from the taliban that they would be able to. we were amazed to see that so many of them are improvising ways to defy that ban that they're setting up unroofficial schools. listen to what one girl said despite she won't get a diploma. she's determined to continue her studies. >> i said that i'm so powerful, i'm strong and these things can't bring my -- my dreams and what i want to do. >> do you ever feel scared?
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>> yes. it is a risk for us that we do -- we don't cover our face. and we study. >> you're very brave. >> yeah, i know. >> reporter: we pushed the taliban foreign ministry spokesperson on when those schools will be able to open again. he would not be drawn on the specifics. he said there are still some issues to be resolved but wouldn't say what the issues are and so many here fear that those schools are not opening any time soon. >> >> what are the taliban saying about the risk of al qaeda and other terror organizations regrouping? >> reporter: well this is pretty interesting, essentially they're dismissing any concern about this. and we did again press the spokesperson on the issue of the fact that the u.s. killed the leader of al qaeda, al zawahiri in kabul just over two weeks
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ago. listen to what he had to say about that. >> we made it clear that the country of afghanistan was unaware of arrival or presence of mr. zawahiri in kabul. so far we have been unable to establish that he was indeed present in kabul. >> isn't that almost for frightening, the idea that your claiming potentially the leader of al qaeda was here in the center of the city and you didn't even know about it? >> again we contend that notion that he was even present here. even if he was, these types of incidents happen every where in the world. >> but they really don't. >> reporter: and it is this kind of strident attitude, that is really putting a road block in any attempt to normalize relations between the u.s. and the taliban. and that of course complicates efforts to unfreeze some of the
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billion dollars of frozen since the taliban takeover. cnn spoke today to tom west who the u.s. envoy and he said in light of al zawahiri there is no short-term plans to try to recapitalize afghanistan's central bank. >> stay safe over there. in kabul, thank you very much for fresing him as well. coming up, liz cheney up hill battle to keep her seat in the u.s. congress. will standing up to trump cost her the wyoming primary?
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congresswoman liz cheney's
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political future is on the line in tomorrow's wyoming primary. cheney, one of only two republicans on the house, january 6th select committee, is facing a battle against the trump-backed challenger. cnn's chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny is in jackson, wyoming, for us tonight. >> we have to set aside partisan differences and understand that there is something much bigger at stake here. >> reporter: on the eve of the wyoming primary, liz cheney is in an uphill fight to hole her congressional seat even as she begins eyeing the next steps in a bigger battle ahead. >> many people will come up to me and i is a i never voted for you before. but i'm going to do it this time and i say great. let's keep that going. >> reporter: paubl from one of the state's most storied political families, cheney has become a pariah in her own party and she's turning to democrats and independents for a last-minute life line. >> i never thought i would vote for cheney. but she has earned my respect. >> reporter: annett said she is a proud democrat but she stood
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in line for nearly an hour today to change parties and vote republican. >> she might not win but she needs as much support as possible. for doing what she's doing. >> reporter: the odds are long considering how former president trump's shadow looms large in wyoming, where the rolling summer beauty has been punctuated by a political campaign between cheney and harriet hagman. >> we're fed one liz cheney. >> reporter: if the crossover vote doesn't save cheney, her admirers hope it could help avoid an embarrassing blowout that trump would revel in. >> liz, you're fired. >> reporter: he served three decades ago. >> wyoming, always a trail blazer. >> reporter: he planted a cheney side for knock and the rule of law. >> without regard to her politics, she has reflected herself as a leader. i think history will prove her.
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and the legacy that she leaves will be a very impressive and important one. >> reporter: joe mcginnly said he believes some republicans are afraid to admit their support for cheney, fearing the wrath from trump and his loyalists. >> there are lots of people throughout that are supporting representative cheney that are afraid to speak up, unfortunately. >> reporter: the outcome of tuesday's primary will show if the cheney support exists or will reward her. >> i will never violate my oath of office. if you're lack for somebody who will, you need to vote for somebody else on this stage because i won't. >> reporter: these days she's hard to find. aides adistribute it it to threats of violence. she said she was well aware of the head winds facing had her. >> i don't intend to lose but some things are more important than any individual office or
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political campaign. >> reporter: now, it's less a question of whether she wins here tomorrow, wolf, or what will she do after. the reality is when you talk to so many of her supporters and inkeyed, admirers, they believe tomorrow will be the end of her congressional career. she, of course, has served three terms. the bigger question, what does she do next? she has vowed to do one thing. to keep former president trump from the oval office. we'll see how she goes about doing that, wolf. >> we certainly will. jeff zeleny, thank you very much. just ahead, we'll have the latest on author salma rushdie' condition.
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local police there. the big question, obviously, is motivation. the government here, the fbi along with u.s. officials want to know if this 24-year-old suspect was in communication with anyone overseas. whether or not there was anybody that was directing him. they have found indications that this was pre planned. an assassination attempt so there is a lot of concern about the fbi. we're told he's off his ventilator, he's up and speaking. he has an eye injury. he has some nerve damage to his arm and family members have described it as life altering injuries. nonetheless, they expect him to survive. this investigation is just getting started as officials, the fbi, the local police are continuing to dig through the
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suspect's past. >> thank you very, very much. to our viewers, thank you for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront," the justice department revealing new details about its investigation into trump as we learned that merrick garland reportedly deliberated for weeks over approving that search warrant. also, a white house lawyer subpoenaed to testify before a federal grand jury. >> plus, rudy giuliani, now a confirmed target of an investigation in georgia over the election there. will he turn on the bigger target, trump? and john meacham is my guest tonight. what is he warning president biden about? let's go out front. good evening. out front, the justice department fighting back sayin


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