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thank you so much for hanging with me. laura coats is sitting in for don lemon tonight, and that begins right now. >> hey, sarah. nice to see you. hey, girl. hey, hey, hey girl. this is don lemon tonight, i'm laura coats sitting in front on women. we are beginning with a major development, which may explain partially the fbi's urgency and getting back classified documents with trump's
mar-a-lago home. tonight, the washington post is quoting sources who are saying that investigators are searching for classified nuclear documents and other items. that there was some deep concern among officials about material potentially ending up in the wrong hands. sources don't say if such documents were recovered, but this follows an extraordinary move by the attorney general, merrick garland. he asked a federal court to unseal the warned that permitted the search to take place in the first place. -- sitting off a quick chain of events tonight. a source saying that a trump and his team appear to be blindsided by this announcement to say hey, we want to see the receipts. they've contacted attorneys independently for advice and considering asking the judge to even block the request by the doj to make that unsealed. that move would seem a bit odd, wouldn't it? trump himself was publicly revealing that the search even
took place. he blasted it as politically motivated. there is republican allies and congress. right-wing media who pushed his accusations, and might i add, not to shiloh. they demanded transparency. merrick garland and the attorney general is basically calling trump's bluff, isn't he? >> the justice department has filed a motion in the southern district of florida to unseal a search warrant and property receipt relating to a search that the fbi conducted earlier this week. that search was a premise located in florida belonging to the former president. the department did not make any public statements on the day of the search. the former president publicly confirmed the search that evening as is his right. copies of both the warrant and fbi property receipt or provided on the day of the search to the former presidents
counsel, who was on site during the search. >> see, that part, that you had the actual warrant, the receipt of the inventory. it was not only given to the people on the premises, but there was a lawyer for trump there as well. he could have released that and the receipt anytime he wanted, but of course he chose not to, because, well, maybe it's politically advantageous to hype up the search, is what he called it. the raid. i'm not saying there's not room for concern or reasons to look at this as the idea of trying to explain further the lie and what's happening next. we might get that in due time. he's been claiming that he is a victim of a government vendetta. he's actually raising money off of that claim as well. this is probably playing into garland's move to make the documents public. >> the department filed a motion to make public the warrant and receipt in light of the former presidents public confirmation of the search, surrounding circumstances, and
the substantial public interest in this matter. >> i would say it's substantial. it's very substantial. you know what's? we should know a lot more about the doj's request by tomorrow. they've been told to inform the court by 3 pm if trump opposes releasing those documents. there is a lot to talk about here with evan perez, chief political analyst, gloria berger, and elie honig. all of you probably thought we were going to have a nice dinner today and relax a little bit, and there was going to be no big news. all of a sudden on this thursday evening, all of you thought wrong. we begin with you, evan. the fbi searched trump's home. we know this. we're looking for classified documents. but we didn't realize according to washington post, is that they might be related to
nuclear weapons. now, that gives anyone in their right mind, pause if that's true, what are we learning tonight? >> exactly right. the idea that these documents -- nuclear weapons programs would be one of the things the fbi was concerned about are looking for, would be a dramatic step. we've reported today on cnn, we reported that among the disputes, the items that were in dispute during these months and months of back and forth between the trump lawyers and the national archives and the justice department, are documents that have to do with special access programs. is that the nation's most closely guarded national security secrets, nuclear
weapons programs would be among those types of documents. again, this is with the washington post is reporting. it sort of falls in line with what we know has already been found. highly classified documents that should never had left the white house. should never have left washington and was sent down to the former presidents beach house, and that is the reason why they had this month long interaction, trying to retrieve documents, sending a subpoena back in june, laura, retrieving some of those documents, and why you saw this escalation, which ended up happening on monday with this search. >> gloria, it's very difficult for anyone. just look at this and say, you know, this is sort of like a pen. when would not know if they were classified documents. only one would know -- i might occasionally find a five dollar bill in my jeans pocket.
i did not know it was there, but i'm probably going to know that there is classified documents if it is a nuclear nature. if that's true, gloria, team trump is saying that they were cooperating all along. there was a grand jury subpoena. we know all this information. but if this is what we are talking about, how does this look of this is indeed, if they are indeed nuclear documents? >> obviously it doesn't look good, right, laura? but with this does, if you take a step back, is it provides some context to this whole story. the questions that everyone has been asking, lots of people have been asking as, well couldn't they just have negotiated this out? why didn't stakes along? why couldn't they have not figured out to do this without executing a search warrant, et cetera, et cetera. if it turns out that these documents were so highly classified, so top secret, and they were having questions about where the documents were, where they disappear to, it weighs these other questions. a, what were these documents. why did the former president have them? was this done recklessly? was this done purposefully?
was this done carelessly? we don't know the answer to the sort of next level of questions. it does explain why the justice department decided at a certain point, it seems to me that they've given a lot of leeway to the former president, that why at a certain point they decided that they had to act and move in. >> in a way, elie, they give some leeway, because i'm sure they anticipated this particular fallout. the idea of these optics and how this would look at the idea of people claiming that this is something that is so frivolous, you will go after him for something like sort of a transactional violation of the law, incidentally, but that's not what we are hearing here. i know you also are known in certain circles as elie, pump the brakes, tongue it. i want to ask you about this. we actually don't have any proof that these are nuclear related documents, but we do
know they're looking for a classified information, at least in part. does that explain for you the urgency of the warrant? i ask that, because there is that gap about with evan and gloria talked about. it wasn't like the very first meeting -- there is a lag in time here. does that undermine the thought that this is really that urgent? >> i will live up to my nickname right now. i have questions for both sides. first of all, of course, by far the biggest questions as where donald trump in the people in mar-a-lago. how on earth did you think it's okay to walk out of the white house 18 months ago with any documents that are government property with classified documents, according to the reporting, and maybe, maybe, we will pump the brakes here, but maybe with nuclear related documents. that's inexplicable to me. remember, laura, there was a specific decision made at some point when trump's people
decided we are going to give back 15 of the boxes to the archives, but not these other 12. who was making that decision and why? i have a question for doj, if indeed doj believed there might be nuclear related documents in there, how on earth does doj let those documents sit in a basement in mar-a-lago for 18 months, and certainly for the last two months? why would they have played nice or negotiated? why would they politely say can you throw padlock on their? why would have gone with a soepoena? they believe and had reason to believe there was no clear related documents in their. should have gone in long before monday. >> it's a good point to make about that notion. we want to say, gloria? >> i was going to say maybe they did not know about them until recently. that's my only question. >> it's all possible. part of this is, and by the way, 3 pm tomorrow, isn't that far away for us to get answers if they decide to make this public and some way, but what we are learning tonight, evan, is that one of the investigators that had visited mar-a-lago back in june as we are talking about,
here was a top justice department counter intelligence official. is it becoming clear why there was a counter intelligence official there? >> it's not entirely clear, but look, that person, the person who oversees those issues of counter intelligence also has the responsibility for any cases, for any investigations that have to do with mishandling of national security information. that's kind of -- from what we know, again, we little very little about exactly with the fbi's after here. but what we do know is there's highly sensitive information and these are the types of documents that foreign adversaries, russia, china, north korea, iran, would be very much eager to get access to. let me tell you something. one of the things we have learned, and you talk to people in trump world, you hear this repeatedly, at the security systems there, the protocols
for access at mar-a-lago were, let's just say, not very good. it was all kinds of people coming in and out. there were all these stories of trump waving around documents that he should not have been doing. in social settings. that's one reason why someone who is looking at counter intelligence issues at the justice department may have been involved in this. again, there's a lot we don't know, but that could explain why that person was involved. >> gloria, when you think about that, we heard about the surveillance video or surveillance video requests, it seemed almost apparent instantly that they want to know who had access. who is coming and going? who is coming in going, and where they may have been able to see things. one thing that may surprise people, i think it seems to have caught the trump team off-guard, is that on monday, it seems as though merrick garland was like, no, i'm not making any comments.
what are you talking about? i'm not saying anything. now he does not appear to fear this warrant becoming public. they're the ones who want to unseal it. is that an indication that they are secure in the actions they've taken and the need for? i mean this is in light of, there has been a furious partisan response. >> right. look, what merrick garland did today was called donald trump's bluff. he effectively said look, okay, a lot of your people are talking about releasing these documents and even have these documents. we're fine with it. let's go to a judge. when he wanted to do and this is merrick garland and you're the lawyer and i'm not, but merrick garland wanted to say if the former presidents attorneys agree. it was not just going to say i want to do this. so they're going to go to court. we have reporting this evening that says donald trump either hasn't decided or maybe deciding to fight this, but that was before the washington post story came out. so, i don't know in the end with donald trump's attorneys
are going to decide to do. but his folks have spent much of the past week decrying the justice department, and now the justice department has given them an opportunity to put up here and say okay, we are happy to reese release it if you are. >> this is a bit of a game of chicken. wonder who is going to win. elie, lets you and i play out this chess game. the idea of you remove. he wanted everyone to know we're not the ones who said we are actually were there. you told everyone. now we are telling everyone we may have planted evidence or the things that happened but that did not happen, they say. now it's your move to try to say you don't want it public. walk me through the mindset of what must be happening in the conversations where a legal team, weighing whether or not to oppose the doj motion to make this unsealed?
>> laura, it's definitely put up or shut up time for donald trump and his team. they have 17 hours and 46 minutes, not that anyone is counting, to decide whether they're going to fight this or not. >> time for a new nickname, elaine. time for a new nickname. >> you can call me whatever you want. look, option a is go along with it and say yeah, fine, we want everyone to see this. and get the benefit of at least looking like you're in favor of openness and transparency. however, donald trump wanted to do that, he could have done that on monday afternoon. he has the documents. they're in his lawyer's office. they're potentially in his hands as well. option b is to fight this and given donald trump's history, he has done nothing but fight. when has he ever agreed or not gone to court or not appealed and re-appealed and kept on going up the line? if he chooses to fight this, and i think we're going to see
happen as the magistrate judge who has this case right now is going to say niger briefs, and the magistrate judge will -- if i had to guess, i would guess g8 doj would win. they made a compelling case today for why those documents should come up, but then count on donald trump to appeal and appealing yen and appeal again, because delay is one of his favorite strategies. we will see. we will watch the clock, but there is no avoiding. he has been putting in -- it has been put in this position to choose door a or door b, and neither of them look great for him right now. >> you cannot honoring the spell. it's going to be difficult. evan, gloria, elie, all of you have the nickname of friend to me as well. thank you, elie. nice seeing you all. up next, everyone, we will hear from former nixon white house counsel, john dean, on tonight's big development. the post reports that agents were seeking classified nuclear documents. and doj's move to now try to unseal the mar-a-lago search warrant. i cannot wait to hear with this man has to say.
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i want to bring in john dean, cnn's contributor and former nixon white house counsel. great to see you. i'm wondering what your reaction is to the washington post reporting. i mean, the idea that this is not just the category of classified documents more broadly, but this is perhaps related to, not just national security, but nuclear weapons? i mean, put that into perspective for us, with this might mean? >> nuclear weapons and the classification of nuclear weapons are clearly restricted data. this is a hair on fire kind of problem. i think what has happened, laura, as i watched this story unfold, including the latest from the post, is that the national archives learned early, a year or so ago, that trump had hold off a bunch of documents. it went down and had friendly discussions to try to determine where they were and how they
got them back. as those discussions went on they didn't go as smoothly as the archives wanted, so they issued a generic subpoena that produced some of the material, but then they got back and they've been all along preparing some kind of matrix so they could understand what kind of documents that is likely that trump had. at some point, they realize they probably got, he turned over some top secret stuff, he's probably got a lot more. and one of those maybe nuclear. then their hair started burning. and that's when the subpoena was dropped and they went after a search warrant. to get that material and get it out of trump's possession, and into the federal government's possession where can be put into kind of facility that kind of information is stored in.
which is not mar-a-lago. >> as i say, that very prospect, but there still that disconnect with mar-a-lago not being the national archives. i've been to mar-a-lago, eternal kind of containment units they have, but the presidential records act tells you they refer to where they know where it's going to be. i have to ask you, the fact that there is this timeline that you've laid out there, john, if you believed at a point in time, that their words something as serious as nuclear documents. would there be any reason that you would have either advised or thought it more prudent to delay in executing a search warrant? because there is a little bit of a gap between there was the, hey, i want you to better secure when it is you had, do you think there was something that made them say, an urgent notion, they found out something very quickly? >> i think either top secret or nuclear material, either one of those would justify going. as you know, a top secret
classification is some of the most sensitive data we have in our national security archives. so, that has an expectation that it can cause serious national problems, damage to the national security. so, top secret alone would have been an impetus to go with a search warrant. nuclear secrets would have only put a fire under it. so, yes. all of these things, i can't believe, as elliott was saying in the last segment, that they would wait a long time if they knew this very sensitive national security information was just sitting down there at trump's club. it's just not a conducive place to hold that kind of information. too vulnerable. >> yeah. in the probable cause can't be stale, imagine this was a case where you said, not in the national security context, but i think there may be some evidence of a crime, when, six
months ago, that's not gonna be the kind of data that you can give a judge. i wonder, john, if your perspective, i hear this chatter already. about the notion, and this is probably frivolous, not a very big deal, he probably didn't mean it. does the y, does the why he may have kept this records matter? >> i don't know. it typically doesn't in this kind of activity. as sandy berger had one explanation for why he stole documents, general petraeus had another. they didn't get seriously punished, but it did certainly affect their career. petraeus today would probably be presidential timber, if not for that mistake. the why, i don't think is the key. it's what in fact was done and with wet attitude and with what's mental state or criminal intent if necessary if you're going to go into that kind of
focus on this problem. >> you know, in any event, john, 3:00 tomorrow, is frankly, just around the corner in the grand scheme of things. i do wonder when they will decide to do. do you think they're going to, if your trump's team, do you think they're going to try and keep this quiet? in the sense of not public? >> well, his standard operating procedure as was mentioned in the last segment, is delay, delay, delay. i think that's the norm. i think he will probably try to fight it. fight with the magistrate judge. then take it to the district court, get the district court judge decide with him, fail there. go to the court of appeals, taken to the supreme court if the supreme court. i can't believe i take this case. i mean, this is a pretty clear cut issue, if you will. on suppression of a subpoena, excuse me, a warrant for a
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we are back now with bombshell reporting from the washington we are back now with bombshell reporting from the washington post just tonight, saying that the fbi was searching for classified nuclear documents at mar-a-lago. the news comes hours after attorney general merrick garland broke his silence on that fbi search, saying that it is in the public interest to unseal the courts approved warrant and that he personally approved the warrant. to me now is cnn counterterrorism analysts, phil mudd and former fbi senior intelligence officer, phil, good to see you. i had to stop for a second
because if the fbi seeking nuclear documents at trump's home, as the washington post is reporting, what is your reaction? is that the hair on fire moment? is that the most scary thing you have heard? what's happening? >> boy, let me confess that this is not a great moment for me. i blew this one. a couple days ago, i said, look, if the president is keeping boxes in his basement of conversations he had with the french president, deliberations at the white house about withdrawing from climate change, big deal. why the heck is the justice department making a decision about pursuing documents that might be classified? i've dealt with classified documents from 7 am to 7 pm for 25 years. to me, this is the hot. i got to step back and say today that, are you kidding me? the president of the united states keeps nuclear documents in an unsecured facility and then you realize that merrick
garland took a shot at the president today. he referred to least intrusive means one talking about the documents. he is saying is that they ask mar-a-lago for the documents, and they said no. mar-a-lago, when they were advised they had these, let me me close with this, laura, i was the deputy director at the national security at the fbi, i did not have access to this country's nuclear secrets. the president kept them at mar-a-lago and said no. i give up, i can't figure this out. >> i will give you some grace here because before you beat up yourself entirely, i love the home of graceland and meant this, i will give you grace for a second and say this to you, we don't yet know what specifically is in those documents recovered. your hearing reporting that they were looking for that nature, with that means, we are still not sure. the prospect in and of itself, i agree, is stunning. there are no details about what
type of mission, but to your point, the information, if they were seeking information involving weapons belonging to the u.s. or some other nation, i wonder what are the potential security risk here because we know there is surveillance footage they want to be able to get. that means to me, you want to know who is coming and going, who is access to different areas, if you might be privy to different areas at the home. tell me about what the risk of this could be, the idea of even classified nature, even if not of nuclear nature, what is the risk that? >> one of the risk, of course, i'd be curious about the surveillance video because my first question is not who has access to that area, it is whether those persons have clearance to have access to that area? if it is high and nuclear secrets, and there is a whole range of nuclear secrets out there, i, for example, as i
mentioned a moment ago, would not have been authorized to get into the area. are there people who don't want to handle classified information getting in there? i think that is a basic question i have had. you remember also that there has been reporting overtime including an incident if you use ago about individuals trying to gain access to mar-a-lago, including foreign nationals. how secure is that compound? i assume with the secret service there that the compound is highly secured, but if you are the fbi and you hear about this, including from a human source that told you the documents that are there, what are you supposed to do, laura? i suppose to say that you don't
care? i feel bad for that guy and charge them, saying they should not do this. today, i scratch my head and say the reverse. why the heck with the president want to keep you could knock me out of beaches? >> i always found it very odd, and most people, you know this, the average person does not get the luxury of the back and forth and negotiation, at your leisure, can we talk about, have a coffee, the whole thing doesn't happen in terms of getting information. there is a certain benefit of doubt and level a difference that has been extended by virtual at the back and forth along the way, but the culminate in this way is something that shows you, if the benefit of the doubt is murdered here. you have pointed out and brought before house in the vacant it is that the fbi head of counter-intelligence is involved. now in that at the reporting at the washington post, what role with the person have been playing? >> this is really interesting because a few days ago, we would have said, we don't know why they did the search. a variety of investigations in the presidents, january six interference and certification of the election. that is not will counter intelligence does with the fbi,
and i watched them. i was part of that for four and a half years. counter intelligence typically chases secrets that involve people oversee. the russians, the chinese and iranians, the north variance. as soon as i saw in the press reporting that the police are talking about national security information, and a counter intelligence chief at the fbi was involved, i took out january six and election interference and said that there's something in this investigation that is sensitive enough to a foreign government might be interested, and that the people of the fbi which is foreign governments want to get. that is a game-changer. the same january six, this about whether the chinese, both greens or russians want to steal the stuff. >> that is striking, in and of itself. i tell you, if what we are learning tomorrow, we might learn a tip-in tomorrow, that they make this public, i can only imagine what we will find out next. phil, nice to see you, and again, they are, we have grace now in the heart of graceland. enjoy yourself.
>> i am feeling safe, thanks a lot. >> have one of the elvis peanut butter and banana's sandwiches, right? that was a whole thing. yep, i have had it. with the cup of tea at the bedside. anyway, up next, speaking at the risk here, this is a very serious matter. in ohio, there was a deadly standoff. there was a man armed with an ar-15 style rifle. he had a nail gun, he tried to get into a fbi field office. i will tell you what we know next.
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for more on this, i want to bring in cnn correspondent, brynn gingras. brynn, it's really stunning day and turn events after what we have seen the past couple of days. and the patrol we heard about. but enforcement tying sources that the suspect's name is ricky shiffer. what are we learning by him? >> yeah, it is scary to go from monday to hear, and how all the dots are connected. we are learning from multiple sources, me and my colleague josh campbell, that this person is named ricky shiffer. he is the person that one into the field office in cincinnati with a now gun, we are told by sources and a ar-15 style rifle, and tried to breach the office. and alarm sounded, and that is when the pursuit was -- gunfire engaged, and it ended with a long standoff between local and federal law enforcement with shiffer being killed. that is currently under investigation. what's also being looked at by federal investigators is this person's background.
we have come across an account on truth social, the former president's social media account that bears the same name as ricky shiffer. we cannot necessarily confirm that it is his account, but i know one sources told my colleague josh campbell that the pictures at the same, and a match with the government i. d.. what is rain on the count is quite honestly terrifying. it talks about the assault against the fbi and the rhetoric on there is encouraging others to take on violence against federal authorities in the wake of what we saw, not just on monday with the surge of mar-a-lago but with the january six incident and other sort of things out there in the public. i want to read one thing that was on this post today, and it talks about the incident that happened in cincinnati. this is a user with the same name as ricky shiffer. it says, well, i thought i had a way to book booth grass, and i didn't. if you don't care for me, it is true, i tried attack in the
fbi. it either means i was taken off the internet, the fbi got me, or they sent the regular cops wild. a sort of stop there. this post is about ten minutes after the breach happened in that field office. it is possible that he could not write anymore. the game or into the social media by my colleague paul murphy, it talks about his presence on january six. talks about how he thought the 2020 election was stolen. it even talks about the mar-a-lago fbi searched that happened earlier this week in and basically called people to arms, saying go to local pawnshops and get guns. go to mar-a-lago, and at the fbi and cameras, you kill them. it is a dangerous rhetoric that is repeated on the true social, clearly, if this is the same person, he was trying to take things into his own -- dude himself. i think about all that, if this is the same person it's no wonder the director of the fbi
christopher wray and the attorney general voiced their concerns about the safety of the members of law enforcement. brynn, thank you so much. we'll keep the story in our minds and keep going with it as well. i want to bring in cnn's political commentator, scott jennings as well. scott, but we are just hearing from brands pre standing. what could have happened at that field office, let alone what happened to this person who attempted to attack the field's office. it's a pretty brazen attack on the fbi, of all places. i was wondering, are you worried that we are going to see more violence because of the rhetoric that we have seen being aimed at doj, aimed at long enforcement just in the mar-a-lago search alone? >> yes, i am. i think we've learned over the last several years, are people out there who were unhinged and who have obviously emotional problems and get invested in conspiracy theories and take matters into their own hands. this person, if it's the same
person, i know we're still confirming everything but if all this checks out the nets obviously like this person did and yeah, i think political violence is a problem in this country is going to continue to be a problem in this is yet the latest manifestation of it. >> i can't help it go back to the dhs bulletin where they essentially spoke about the threat of those based on political grievances. the idea of domestic threats posing maybe even more so than external ones as well, but whether things will check out. i'm sure you've seen the washington post reporting already tonight that says that they were looking at mylar gopher documents relating to nuclear documents of some kind. if trump actually had important nuclear documents and i cannot imagine are in an important nuclear documents, but would it's not going to do for the republicans right now coming to his defense? >> good question.
i think it really depends on what it is. no clear documents, i mean i don't know what that means. i don't know this just information about the kind of weapons we have and where we have them or if it's code, i don't know what that means, so i think exactly what's in it is going to matter and could have an impact. i will tell you this. there is some pulling out today, political has done a snap poll in trump's numbers among republicans have picked up. obviously republicans have been very -- because of what happened. i'm not surprised. if you look at the reaction republicans had an immediate wake of the search and sort of the silence from doj where the last couple of days, i'm not surprised to see those numbers. if this turns out to be something minor, i have no idea what it's going to turn out to be. if it turns out to be something minor or something that doesn't seem as important as say, the planning of the january six riot, which i consider important, i think you will see republicans get even more defensive of trump.
if it turns out to be an egregious abuse of power or some kind of terrible -- poor judgment on the part of trump, maybe we're talking about a different story here. i don't know, yet, at the possibility exists that republicans could get and dig even further. >> i don't know about the poor judgment along being enough. it passes prologue. that's the standard. i don't know, but i will say and i want to be clear, i think it's only responsible to do so. attorney general merrick garland has not said nuclear related documents. we have not seen the search warrant, and so one of the concerns will always be, as we saw from earlier this week, if people get over ahead of their skis on things, and attribute, the statements from reporting a statement of the doj, and there's always room for what you're talking about. i do wonder if people will be prudent enough to be patient and actually wait and see. >> first of all, i think what you just said is an extremely
responsible thing to say, because there's a lot of speculation here and we don't know what we are going to know this time tomorrow. i would also say that the fbi, the department of justice, because of their history with trump and because of a lot of what happened in the run up to the election in 2016, during his presidency, some of the issues they had with him on the crossfire hurricane, the fact that garland came out today was good, i think it was two days too late, frankly. they have to understand that have country looks at everything they do in relation to trump with a critical eye, because of the past issues that they've had with him, and frankly, some of the things that he has said about them. and, so this transparency is a good thing. i think it came too late. but the transparency will ultimately, i think, lead to greater credibility and legitimacy for whatever legal outcomes are on the horizon. once we have the full information, and we can make a
full political assessment. until then, everybody's imaginations will be running wild and we will know more 24 hours from now. >> less than that, perhaps. 3:00, scheduling, zoom is to see you. >> nice to see you, thank you. >> well, look, the cdc says no more quarantines. no more social distancing. we've got the covid update you need to know about, next.
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big changes coming from the cdc today. after more than two years they are no longer recommending americans stay at least six feet apart. they are ending the social distancing guideline that was a hallmark from the covid-19 pandemic. the new guidelines are also did -- ditching restrictive measures like quarantines and focusing on severe disease from covid. with kids heading back to school, the cdc is no longer suggesting the test to stay for kids who have been in contact with someone who tested
positive for covid-19. the shift isn't the guidelines and is a sign of how much has changed since the very beginning of the pandemic. now nearly the entire u.s. population has at least some immunity through vaccination or a previous infection, or both. next, nuclear documents, the washington post reporting the fbi went to mar-a-lago in search of documents about nuclear weapons and more classified info. stay with us.
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