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not going to vote unanimously to get rid of the filibuster. and come forward and work with republicans to pass something because ultimately, martin luther king, a great man, but he also could talk about compromise in legislation in order to get things done. remember the civil rights act and the voting rights act were two different pieces of legislation because he -- lyndon johnson didn't think he could pass them both at the same time. >> yeah. i mean, it's my understanding that there some are conversations. but i don't want us to get distracted. and i mean conversations about other pieces of legislation that are democracy legislation. but i don't want us to get distracted from this moment. it's interesting. before i came here, i decided to listen, not just read, but listen to martin luther king's "give us the ballot" speech. and in that speech, he talks about the fact that, yeah, there are good people in the north and
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the south and -- but we have to do our job. the white house, the president made it really clear today where he stands. the house of representatives has already voted for hr-4, for the people and the john lewis voting rights advancement act. we need the senate to do their jobs, and it's not just about one of us. it's about all of us. and that's basically what the president said. if we want to make sure that we continue to have this democracy that we say we cherish, then we need to make sure that we pass these bills. >> so i'm from philadelphia. which is in the same media market as your home state, delaware. so i have read a lot about delaware growing up. i don't think that delaware has the easiest voting laws in the country, does it? >> and you know what? delaware, just like other states across the country, have to step up. it's not just what we do on the federal level. it also happens on the state level. like you, i'm also from
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philadelphia. moved to delaware. and so, yeah, we are doing some things. we've got individuals that are working on voting rights even in our own state. and so, yeah, this is a national issue. you heard the vice president talk about 1 in 6 americans can be impacted by not making -- by disenfranchising people. and the same is true across the country. seeing all of these laws that are trying to subvert and suppress the vote. and so, yeah, delaware, too. we're the first state, and we also have to be the first state to step up as well and make sure that everyone has the right to vote. >> i genuinely as an american feel that in addition to guarding against fraud, which is very little of in the united states, it should be as easy as possible for americans to vote because we are the best democratic republic when as many people as possible are represented, no matter who wins, democrats or republicans. but going over a lot of these
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election laws, i went in, preparing for today, and i saw, you know what? new jersey doesn't allow ballot harvesting. and that's a democratic state. delaware doesn't allow the kind of early voting that a lot of other states do. how come -- but then the journalist in me and the cynic says, well, how come democrats only complain about the voting -- strict voting regulations in red states, in texas and georgia and not in democratic states like new york? >> well, i think if you listen to any of the voting rights advocates out here if you go even in my own state, there are members of the general assembly who are stepping up and working to ensure that people have the right to vote. but i want to make sure that i get this one thing in as well. i want people to not just hear kind of like the buzzwords that
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we all talk about. i want them to think about why is it that people would try to subvert or to suppress your vote? it is because it is that important. it is because it is that powerful, that those votes connected to each other can do things like help us save the planet. can deal with issues such as criminal justice reform. so i want people to feel that this isn't just an issue about what washington is doing or what the president is saying. it is about their ability to exercise their fundamental right that people lined up for during a pandemic. we don't want people to have to ever feel that way again. we want to make sure that they can do it, they can exercise their right in a way that's safe, in a way that's secure, in a way that's fair. and that really looks really to help generations to come. that's why we're here. that's what this is about.
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>> as always, congresswoman lisa blunt rochester from the small wonder state of delaware, thank you. really appreciate your thoughts. coming up, or right now at this hour, breaking news. president biden just moments ago laying out his push for election reform. what's really in the bills he wants passed? we'll take an in-depth look. temporarily grounded. new details about the north korean missile launch that forced the faa to stop flights from taking off. and leading this hour, mask confusion. the cdc considering stronger masks to help fight the omicron variant, according to "the washington post," as we learn new details about efforts to get the youngest among us vaccinated. and as alexandra field reports, all this confusion on full display today on capitol hill. >> reporter: the highest number of hospitalizations during the pandemic, the fda's acting commission aerks peeling to keep the focus on essential services. >> most people are going to get covid, all right, and what we need to do is make sure the hospitals can still function. >> reporter: the most seriously ill are the unvaccinated.
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but there are no clear answers yet for how quickly we could see vaccines for children under 5. those clinical trials are still ongoing. >> we are working very closely with the manufacturers of the vaccines on accelerating and making sure that vaccines are available for the youngest children. >> reporter: hospitalizations for children are also at an all-time high. the cdc says the risk of hospitalization is now 17 times higher for unvaccinated people than for fully vaccinated people. >> it's not only the fact that hospital beds are being taken up by covid positive patients. displacing the heart attacks and the strokes and the appendicitis cases, et cetera, but also this virus is spreading so fast that we have a lot of medical staff out. >> reporter: harris county texas going through its highest covid threat level for the third time since the pandemic began. while the state plans to deploy another 2700 medical workers to
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assist with the surge. the strain on hospital beds triggering a limited state of emergency in virginia. the national guard now pitching in, in kentucky. >> not only are you distorting it. >> reporter: dr. fauci calling out kentucky's senator rand paul today for raising money by repeating false claims, emphasizing the danger in that. >> that kindles the crazies out there and i have threats upon my life, harassment of my family and my children with obscene phone calls because people are lying about me. >> reporter: and as the debate over vaccine mandates makes its way through the supreme court, united airlines reports their mandate has been a success in the omicron surge. prior to our vaccine requirement, tragically more than one united airline employee was dying from covid but we've gone weeks without covid deaths among our vaccinated employees.
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and jake, in this latest surge, the red cross is now reporting the worst blood shortage crisis they've faced in a decade. they cite reasons as cases of covid, staffing shortages, cancellations of blood collection clinics, even weather. all that combined means that doctors are being forced to make choices about which patients get critical transfusions and which patients will have to wait. jake? >> alexandra field, thank you. joining us now to discuss, dr. chris parnell and dr. paul offit. what are you seeing at your hospital right now? how sick are the kids? >> we're seeing in some ways a different kind of illness with omicron. typically you'd see more pneumonias. now more upper respiratory tract infections like croup. as was said earlier, they're
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unvaccinated generally. not only are they unvaccinated, the parents unvaccinated, siblings. often that's where they get it from. if you look at the largest group in this country unvaccinated it's people less than 30. and if we're going to get on top of this pandemic, we have to vaccine the young. >> today dr. walensky said this. >> hospital zagd rates for people infected with omicron are lower compared with prior variants. despite decrease in severity, the substantial number of absolute cases is resulting in hospitalization increases across all age groups. including children ages 0 to 4. >> even icu admissions are nearing the highest peak of the entire pandemic. so it it really accurate to keep saying omicron is, quote, less severe? how do you square that? >> no, jake, i don't think it's accurate to say that omicron is less severe. we know that any covid infection puts you at risk for developing long covid. as the covid cases explode, it
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causes a surge on your health care systems and those who are unvaccinated still are having worse outcomes with this particular variant as we saw with other variants. so we really should change how we talk about omicron and just make sure that people understand that it's contagious. it's spreading rapidly and there are things they can do to protect themselves as well as things that systems need to be doing to ensure that the public is kept safe. >> dr. offit, sometimes it feels like we're in two different worlds, not just politically but in this pandemic. there are people in red states who are just living their lives. they've been vaccinated, maybe the parents but haven't gotten their kids vaccinated. the schools are open. no masking required. people in blue states living a very different existence where there's much more intense scrutiny over whether you're masked, you need to show an i.d. card. what's your message for a parent in a red state who is like, i'm
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vaccinated. everything is fine. i don't need to get my kids vaccinated. why should that person get his kids vaccinated? >> well, when the virus first came into this country in january 2020, the mantra was that children get infected less frequently and they're infected less severely. that's generally true. in the past. however, what's happened now is then we've had 3% of the infections were in children. now it's more than 25% because this virus, omicron especially, has sought out a susceptible group. young it's going to be fine. most children have mild illness or asymptomatic. about 1,000 children, less than 18 years of age, have died of this. of the children who have been hospitalized or go to the intensive care unit or die, about one-third of them have no co-morbidities. therefore, it can occur in anyone. this is not a virus to fool around with. this is not influenza or other typical respiratory viruses. this virus can cause you to make an immune response to your own blood vessels which means you can have heart disease, brain
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disease, kidney disease, lung disease as well as liver disease. this is a different virus. this is like no other respiratory virus. so avoid it. the way to avoid it is to vaccinate. i think it's just really hard to work in a hospital where you see so many children coming in who are unvaccinated, knowing this is all preventable. this was hard enough last year when we didn't have a vaccine. now we can prevent all this suffering and hospitalization and occasional death. >> it's infuriating, i would think. counties in new york, michigan, utah are giving out free kn95 masks to the community. do you think the federal government should make n95 or kn95 masks free, like free testing has become the norm? >> emphatically, yes, jake. when we talk about pandemic preparedness or we talk about what is an adequate and appropriate and equitable public health response, we need to talk about systems, federal government included, getting into the hands of average americans. those things that will keep them safe. we know that high-quality masks are more important than in any
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other time in the pandemic because of how omicron spreads. so whether it's free testing or free masks or free vaccines or equitable access to therapeutics, we need to ensure those things are reaching those who are the hardest hit areas and that everyone has access to the tools in the toolkit that will keep them safe and protected. anything less is just really uncalled for and i think it's quite sad in a nation of this level of standard in development that we still haven't quite gotten right. >> dr. offit, dr. fauci said this about kids under 5 getting vaccinated, which they have not been able to do yet because they haven't been cleared by the cdc. >> this likely will be a three-dose vaccination for children in that group so the trials are being done now as quickly as possible to see if they can get that data to have a uniform dose and a uniform regimen. >> you're on the fda vaccine advisory committee. so we'll go to you before it goes to the head of the fda before it goes to the cdc
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advisory director before to the cdc director. how confident are you that kids under 5 could get vaccinated, i don't know, before the end of march? >> i don't know. we'll know when we see the data. when we looked at the 5 to 11-year-old, there was really no difference in the immune response at the 10 microgram dose, given two doses three weeks apart in the 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. they all had the same immune response. apparently that's not true in the 5 and under group. it looks like it would be effective in the youngest child but not in the oldist child. we're all guessing. wool see whether or not this is going to be different doses for different ages or whether it's going to be more than two doses for different ages. time will tell. we'll see. right now we're sort of in an age of science by press release so it's a little confusing. >> dr. pernell and dr. offit, thank you. president biden promised there could be covid tests for everyone. that hasn't happened. why not?
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in our health lead, an explanation of sorts from the white house and why it is taking so long to roll out the free covid tests that have been promised. a senior white house official told cnn there's finally enough global supply to start that process. before christmas his administration would start mailing a half billion kits to homes. biden promised to fix the testing problem saying anyone who wants a test can get one. jeremy diamond takes a look into this administration's failure to get than done almost a year into being in office. >> believe me, it's frustrating to me. but we're making improvements.
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>> reporter: one year after taking office, president biden facing a stubborn problem he vowed to solve. long lines and empty shelves exposing a testing system failing once again to match demand. biden's own rhetoric. >> anyone who wants a test should be able to get one, period. >> reporter: biden came into office with a plan to expand testing. pouring billions of dollars to boost manufacturing and ramp up testing in schools and underserved communities. his top priority was vaccines, which kept most people out of the hospital and even slashed the chances of getting and spreading the virus. and then came omicron. >> the vaccines were really doing their job to decrease the number of cases. so there wasn't demand. but then because of the variants, we've had this increase in cases and, therefore, increase in demand. >> reporter: biden has acknowledged coming up short on testing but resists calling it a failure. >> i don't think it's a failure. i think you could argue that we should have known a year ago,
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six months ago, two months ago, a month ago. >> reporter: but many public health experts have been sounding the alarm for months. >> everybody saw it coming. we knew we needed more tests. i think the administration dropped the ball on this. >> we're still way behind on testing. >> frankly, a big problem is right from the start we didn't have a strategic plan about how testing was going to fit in with our response. >> reporter: and in october, anticipating a winter surge, a group of experts, including dr. michael minna, made an urgent plea to white house officials. >> tried everything i could to advise our government on the need for these tools. >> reporter: in a presentation obtained by cnn, the experts predicted the u.s. could need about 732 million rapid at-home tests per month by march 2022. even after factoring in expected production increases, the experts warned the u.s. would fall short by about a quarter of a billion tests. white house officials say they didn't disagree with the goals but by october, it was mission
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impossible. there were only a handful of authorized at-home tests and plummeting demand during the summer caused several testmakers to downscale production. republicans have seized on the failure with two senators calling out a, quote, fundamental lack of strategy and failure to anticipate future testing needs. in his first network interview, the white house's new testing coordinator responding. >> this administration has been pursuing a strategy to expand testing since its earliest days and will continue to do that. >> reporter: the white house did take steps to boost production in the late summer and fall. purchasing $3 billion in rapid tests and spending another $1 billion to secure key supplies for pcr testing. and with the new fast-track to fda authorization, there are now nine at-home antigen tests on the market. the results, at-home testing capacity is up from 46 million tests produced in october to 300 million per month today. the white house projects the
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supply of at least 350 to 400 million tests next month. according to a memo obtained by cnn. >> we're not going to stop there. those numbers will keep going up in the months ahead. >> jake, the white house is finalizing plans to send those 500 million free at-home tests to americans who request them. the first batch of those tests we're told will go out to americans later this month. and the rest will go out over the next 60 days. but, jake, while those 500 million tests, that's enough for two tests for every american adult, experts say that it points things in the right direction but it's still a drop in the bucket and it will take months to get supply where it needs to be. >> jeremy diamond, thanks so much. let's bring in kathleen sebelius, the secretary of the department of health and human services under president obama. madam secretary, great to see you. so president biden came into office promising easy access to tests. almost a year later, a covid test can still be rather hard to get, depending on where you are in the country.
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and certainly the white house will even say they don't have enough where they need to be. so what's the problem? some people say they think the biden administration put all their eggs in the vaccine basket and ignored other ways to beat back the pandemic. what do you think? >> well, i think there's been tremendous progress made. no question about it. you heard some of the stats that jeremy diamond just rattled off, but we're at 300 million tests per month out and available. we've gone from 11 -- up to 11.7 million tests a day from 1.7 million. we have testing available in about 20,000 pharmacies that used to be 2,500 pharmacies, community health centers have tests. so there are two issues that i think the biden administration has been working on and doubling down on those efforts with the omicron wave.
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one is pcr tests need lab capacity, need a turn around time and they have been free and are available, but in short supply, not necessarily because of the tests themselves but because of the lab turn around. and that capacity is being built and ramped down. there were no at-home tests available when joe biden took office last january. and now there are many that have been authorized by the fda and, as you heard, a lot of the private manufacturers turned their attention elsewhere this summer when nobody was interested in tests, when people thought they were finished with this so that we're ramping up capacity and the biden administration also, as of last february, almost a year ago, invoked the defense production act to ramp up capacity. so it's coming. it's not as fast as people would like. there definitely are lines somewhere, but free tests are now going to be available for
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people who are insured and for people who aren't insured, there will be an ability to get tests mailed directly to your home to go to a community health center to get a test. so access, affordability and capacity is really being built as we speak. >> the administration says insurance companies should start covering the costs of rapid tests by the end of the week and those 500 million test kits should start to be mailed to households later this month. but this is january 2022. he's been president for a year. are those big enough efforts to correct the previous year's failures on test, not to mention the failures during the trump administration? >> well, i don't think there was a year's failure on testing. i think the testing capacity has gone -- come under enormous strain with this wildly transmissible variant, with omicron, that just arrived. up until then, people could get tests, get home tests. they were available for nursing homes, available for schools. what we're seeing is this surge
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is hitting a ramping up testing capacity. and i think they're doubling down now on the efforts to open new testing sites by the federal government, to make sure, as you -- mailing tests home, getting them to community health centers, making sure that pharmacies have them available. so it's really the surge of omicron that has created suddenly this crunch of testing demand. but i think we're up to the task. the biden administration absolutely knows that true. i think we also, jake have to make sure that those americans who have started on their booster shots and don't have the second dose of vaccine step up. there's no shortage of vaccine or boosters. and we know that will take the demand down on tests. make sure you get those shots that are available all throughout the country. get your kids vaccinated and we can get through omicron with
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very little death and very little serious illness, if we take advantage of the tools we have. >> former secretary kathleen sebelius, thank you. good to see you again. we'll talk to progressive congresswoman cori bush from georgia next. stay with us. so take care of that heart with lipton. because sippin' on unsweetened lipton can help support a healthy heart. lipton. stop chuggin'. start sippin'. some of my best memories growing up were cooking with mom. so when she moved in with us, a new kitchen became part of our financial plan. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor at ♪ look for the bare necessities ♪ ♪ the simple bare necessities ♪ ♪ forget about your worries and your strife ♪ ♪ the bare necessities of life will come to you ♪ all the delivery, no delivery fees. dashpass.
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we have some breaking news in our politics lead. moments ago president biden and vice president harris spoke in atlanta. they tried to make an urgent case for why the senate must pass two pieces of election reform legislation. >> i've been having these quiet
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conversations with members of congress for the last two months. i'm tired of being quiet! do you want to be on the side of dr. king or george wallace? do you want to be on the side of john lewis or bull connor? do you want to be on the side of abraham lincoln or jefferson davis? this is the moment to decide. >> president biden pleading with his party to exempt these two election reform bills from normal senate filibuster rules so that they'll be able to pass on a simple democratic majority vote plus vice president harris. instead of needing 60 votes, which would require republican support. as manu raju reports for us now, it's not clear if there are 50 democratic votes to change the filibuster rules. >> reporter: as he makes a high-profile pitch in georgia for sweeping changes to voting laws -- >> pass the freedom to vote act! >> reporter: -- president biden is confronting this reality on capitol hill. the senate is poised to hand him
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a stinging defeat on a pillar of his agenda. >> there will be a moment of truth here. >> reporter: at issue are two bills that biden is pushing. the freedom to vote act, which would impose an array of changes to the electoral process to ease voters' access to the ballot. and legislation to overturn a supreme court ruling that gutted the 1965 voting rights act. democrats say the changes are necessary to combat republican-led states that have fed off donald trump's lie that the 2020 election was stolen and imposed voting restrictions. >> why go through this exercise, force your members that are vulnerable members to cast a vote to change the rules when you know it's not going to last? >> this is so important. the job of a senator is to vote, and the more important and pressing the issue is the more that plays. we are going to vote. >> reporter: to advance the bills in the senate it would require 60 votes to overcome a filibuster from republicans. >> i think part of the message we have to continue to share is that people can trust that those
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elections in those states are being run by people that have integrity. >> reporter: democrats have been working to allow the bills to advance with just 51 votes. under regular order, changing the rules would require the support of 67 senators. but lacking gop support, democratic leaders are instead trying to convince joe manchin and kyrsten sinema to change the rules along straight party lines. a process known as the nuclear option. >> so what would a post-nuclear senate look like? i assure you it would not be more efficient. or more productive. i personally guarantee it. >> reporter: manch on and sinema are not bending to democratic demands withstanding months of pressure to argue that deploying the nuclear option would have damaging ramifications for the country. >> we need some good rule changes to make the place work better but getting rid of the filibuster doesn't make it work better. >> reporter: manchins colleagues strongly disagree. >> how is it you'd
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disenfranchise minority votes in the nation in order to protect minority positions in the senate? >> that's a question i think that would be hard to answer. each member will have to look into their own soul to do that. >> reporter: just as democrats have their divisions, republicans do, too. namely over donald trump and his continued lies that the election in 2020 was stolen. senator mike rounds over the weekend stated basic fact that donald trump lost the election fair and square. that prompted donald trump to come out and attack rounds and calling him a jerk, calling him in effective and say he was weak and he'd never endorse rounds in a future election. i caught up with mitch mcconnell who told me i think senator rounds told the truth about what happened in the 2020 election and i agree with him. jake? >> manu raju on capitol hill, thanks. joining us now, live to discuss, democratic congresswoman cori bush of missouri.
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congresswoman, let me start by getting your reaction to president biden's speech today. do you feel like he made any progress pushing his agenda forward? was it too little, too late? >> i'm just glad that today the president of the united states said that he wants to see this happen. he wants to see the -- eliminating the filibuster for voting rights. so whatever happened yesterday, you know, today the president said it. he said it for all the american people so that the people could hear it, the senate could hear it. you know, and today. so now we need to take that and run with it. but i feel like, you know, yes, we can -- we should expect more from our president. absolutely. absolutely. but our president is not the one who is going to vote. our president is not the one -- he does not have a vote. he is not one of the 50 that we're hoping to have. he's not even one of, if it was 60.
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he's not one. and so we need to turn focus, even more focus, to those that are standing in the way. and they're standing in the way of what's needed from people who look like me, especially. especially. why is it 2022? and we are fighting this fight still. >> so to play devil's advocate, there are 50 votes, all the democrats in the senate support both of these election reform bills. manchin, sinema, coons, all of them do. there are democratic senators who are concerned that if the filibuster is eliminated for these bills, then the next time republicans take control of the senate -- which will happen at some point -- that republicans will use that precedent, set by democrats, and pass sweeping bills to ban abortion nationwide, to allow concealed carry, to curtail voting rights in certain states in the
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neighborhoods you're talking about. president biden today said that senators need to pick a side. he suggested anyone who prevents the bills from passing is akin to george wallace or bull connor or jefferson davis, three of the worst people that ever lived in this country. can you see how maybe, if i'm senator sinema, i might think i'm just worried about a nationwide abortion ban. that's not fair to compare me to jefferson davis, the president of the confederacy. what do you say? >> so how -- where is the, you know, how do we know that the republicans won't do something anyway? because when we -- i think when we look at, hey, we can't do something as democrats because what if the republicans do this back to us. well, republicans have done, you know, things to us that we said, hey, we're not going to do something. look at how we ended up with the supreme court we have. how did that happen? we can't keep saying, oh, what if something happens later. right now we're looking at
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facing 2022 elections. we're looking at what's going to happen. are we going to keep the house? are we going to keep the senate? we have to make sure those voting rights that people aren't -- that those voter purges aren't happening. if we could have an election holiday if we don't have people trying to figure out how to go to work and how to make it to the polls. if we can fix these issues for people right now, why not do it? i don't -- like looking at what could happen. there's a lot that could happen. there's a lot the republicans can do. you know what? we can't even imagine what they can do actually because i remember just a few days ago what we did was we commemorated a day. we remembered a day that we'd never thought would have happened. >> yeah. >> so when we look at what can they do? they can do whatever -- they can do that and more regardless of if we push this forward or not. so eliminate the filibuster for the voting -- for voting rights. do it now. and let's make sure that the people who need the access have
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in our politics lead, a new trump ally targeted by the january 6th committee. today chairman bennie thompson telling cnn the committee plans to seek information from former trump lawyer rudy giuliani at some point. let's get right to ryan nobles. did chairman thompson say what information they want from giuliani? >> he wasn't very specific about their interest in rudy giuliani, but the fact they are interested really isn't a surprise. giuliani was trump's personal lawyer in the days after the 2020 election and leading up to the january 6th insurrection. he was one of the most prominent peddlers of the big lie, and, of course, gave a speech during that stop the steal rally on the
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ellipse outside the white house where he suggested that trump supporters should engage in trial by combat, and that was just a few hours before the capitol riot. now bennie thompson said they are very interested in speaking to giuliani, that he's on a long list of people they want to talk to. but he didn't provide a timeline when they'd ask for his cooperation. and he also wouldn't say whether or not they'd subpoena giuliani. it seems this is still a process of the committee trying to decide what their next step is, jake. >> then congressman jim jordan who has not completely ruled out talking with the committee. you spoke with him last night. what did he have to say? >> he didn't provide much insight beyond the lengthy letter he sent to the committee which didn't specifically say that he wasn't going to cooperate. but instead said he had no relevant information to offer the committee. instead, it was basically just a bunch of accusations that the committee wasn't legitimate and, therefore, he didn't need to cooperate with them. i asked jordan repeatedly whether or not he'd be open to
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something like a public hearing where he could answer questions where everyone would be able to see and hear from him. he said just to refer back to the letter. i also specifically asked him if he had any communication with the former president donald trump or his legal team before sending the committee that letter. he just refused to answer that question, jake. >> tell us more about these pro-trump groups that sent fake election certifications to the national archives falsely showing trump winning arizona and michigan. the committee got their hands on them. what's all that about? >> yeah, it's pretty peculiar. and politico was the first to report this. these are individuals and groups that describe themselves as what they call sovereign citizens. and they basically made these fake electoral certifications, even with the state seals in some places like arizona and michigan, and then sent them to the national archives if somehow that was going to mean the archives would accept that as real and perhaps install trump as president. obviously the archives were able to sniff it out quickly and rejected them but they let the
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secretaries of state know about that in these different states. many of these secretaries of states have talked with the committee. the committee does have access to this information. but it's just another example, jake, of the weird and sometimes questionable practices that trump supporters attempted to employ to keep him in office. obviously, didn't work. >> lunacy. ryan nobles, thanks. appreciate that. north korea launching a new missile and dozens of u.s. flights have been impacted. we'll explain, next. stay with us. heartiness? yes! living life to the flavor-fullest? heck yes. panera. live your yes. now $1 delivery. ♪ ♪ do your eyes bother you? because after all these emails, my eyes feel like a combo of stressed, dry and sandpaper. strypaper? why do we all put up with this? when there's biotrue hydration boost eye drops. biotrue uses naturally inspired ingredients like an electrolyte, antioxidant,
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for the second time in a week, north korea has launched a
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ballistic missile off its coast. south korea says the launch was more advanced, reaching ten times the speed of sound. the launch prompted an unusual move here in the united states, an faa ground stop with some pilots ordered to land, others prevented from taking off. oren lieberman has more on the launch and response from the pentagon. >> reporter: newly released images show north korea's latest missile launch. it flew more than 400 miles. according to japan's ministry of defense, crashed into the sea of japan. it went 40 miles high. reached mock 10. this is a week after north korea tested what it claimed was a hypersonic weapon. north korean leader kim jong-un is reminding the west of his relevance. >> north korea has to make a decision that they go full provocation or wait a bit more. i think they do believe they
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wanted to give president biden an opportunity to engage north korea on north korea terms, but washington has not done that. >> reporter: in early december, the u.s. and south korea announced they would update operational war plan. classified strategy for how the countries and allies would respond if war breaks out on the korean peninsula. in months before the announcement, there were four separate north korean missile tests, including cruise missiles, ballistic missiles. the state department condemn the latest tests, two in the span of one week. >> the united states has been saying since this administration came in that we are open to dialogue with north korea, that we are open to talking about covid and humanitarian support and instead they're firing off missiles. >> reporter: indo pacific command says it doesn't pose immediate threat to personnel or territory and yet this from burbank airport in california. >> we are not allowing aircraft
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in the area at the moment. >> reporter: the white house says they paused departures at west coast airports because of the test, but it is unclear why a launch thousands of miles away had any effect on flights in the u.s. when the military was able to say the launch was no threat to the united states. >> there was a 15 minute ground stop and they did it out of abundance of caution and they're assessing the approach moving forward. >> the faa statement made no mention of north korea or the missile launch. that came from the white house and other officials. the faa says they often take precautionary measures, and that's true, but that's not in response to a missile launch thousands of miles away. faa says process of ordering ground stop is under review, jake. >> oren lieberman at the pentagon. in the "the situation room," questions about novak djokovic's visa application.
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