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hello and a very warm welcome to our viewers joining us in the united states and right around the world. i'm isa soares in london and right here on "cnn newsroom." we are, indeed, a city in shock. >> i haven't seen anything to this magnitude in a very, very, very long time. >> this is a horrific, horrific,
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painful moment for the city. >> i see these people every day. it's hurtful. >> at least 19 dead including 9 children. the worst apartment fire in new york in decades. we have the very latest for you. drama in the courts. novak djokovic wins his visa battle and can now remain in australia. now the ball is in the australian government's court. will they challenge it or back down? and trying talks. the u.s. and moscow meet this hour in a bid to de-escalate tensions as russian troops build up on ukraine's border. >> announcer: live from london, this is "cnn newsroom" with isa soares. welcome to the show, everyone. it is monday, january 10th. we are following the aftermath
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of a deadly apartment fire in new york city's bronx neighborhood. now at least 19 people are dead, and that includes 9 children. the fire commissioner says 32 people were also sent to hospitals with life threatening conditions. residents describe the horrifying experience. have a listen. >> usually we always hear the fire alarm going off so it's -- it's something that we're used to. so when you don't know that it's a fire, like you know how was he supposed to know it's a fire if it's always going off. i received a phone call from somebody who's on the third floor and i looked out the back of the window where i see the fire outside the window. and they had to break open the windows to let people out. >> i don't want to go through that experience again. it's crazy. i don't -- i was really scared. i was really scared. >> did you hear the fire alarms? >> yes, i did. it went off for a couple of minutes. i mean, it was like they don't know how to work the bellore how
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to turn it off. it was crazy but some people didn't knock on the doors there was a fire, we would have stayed up in there. >> absolutely terrifying. well, the fire broke out on sunday morning quickly spreading throughout two floors. an open door in an apartment where the fire started sent heavy smoke throughout the building. many people couldn't find their way out. firefighters were on the scene in minutes and quickly began rescuing people. >> thank you to the men and women who went in these buildings. some of these firefighters, their oxygen -- their oxygen tanks were empty and they still pushed through the smoke. you can't do this if you don't feel attached to the city and this community and i really want to thank them for putting their lives on the line to save lives. >> now the mayor described the fire as one of the worst the city has seen in modern times.
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officials say the building's residents are now being housed in a middle school next door and the red cross is helping families get what they need. cnn's paulo sandoval has more now from new york. >> reporter: it took hours for fire investigators to locate what's being described as physical evidence that confirms it was a space heater that initially started the fire that quickly broke out just before noon on sunday. when that fire broke out investigators say that it wasn't the flames that caused so much death and destruction but it was the smoke. in fact, some of the pictures you can see from the scene, you can see how that smoke was billowing out of windows. even on the top floors of the 19 story building. we now know at least 19 people confirmed dead and there is concern that that death toll could potentially continue to rise. we know many of the dead are children. simply adding to that heart break and much of that heart break the governor of new york has seen firsthand as she spoke with some of those affected
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families. >> we are indeed a city in shock. it's impossible to go into that room where scores of family who are in such grief were in pain. to see it in a mother's eyes as i held her, who lost her entire fa family. it's hard to fathom what they're going through, but i went table to table, helped children make their raman noodles and eat their pizza and let them know one thing, and the mayor and i are united in this, we will not forget you. we will not abandon you. we are here for you. >> reporter: the community continues to come together. late sunday night you can see many members of the community coming together back to you.
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>> here's what we know. it has 19 stories and where the fire started it was the second and third floors. it's got 120 units. no major violations have been reported to the city. the residents are vibrant made up of working class families. >> a lot of the residents have lived in this building for a very long time. you have generations so i met a young lady whose parents live in the building and her grandparents and, you know, that's what we see. we want to assure people anyone who is an immigrant or undocumented, don't worry about sharing information. we are not evicting anyone or sharing information with i.c.e. or any deportation agency. if they want to relocate, we will help them. if they want to return, we will
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also help. the goal as borough president is to make sure we heal from this and we remember those that we lost. we also know that the dozens of families that live in this building need to return to some sense of normalcy. >> that was bronx borough president speaking. actor and comedian bob saget has died. he was found deceased in an orlando hotel room at 9 the agef 65. he's best remembered perhaps as the starve "full house." >> hi, girls. >> hi, dad. >> i'm sorry i'm late. >> now he played the role of widowed father danny tanner from 1987 to 1995. he explained how he landed that
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role. >> i was doing audience warmup for "boosom buddies." "full house" was an accident. i got fired from a job on cbs and was asked to be in cbs and wasn't available and i got the show. and it was made from the producers of "happy days." they made "happy days." "laverne & shirley." i was the richie cunningham on "full house" and stamos was fonzie. >> he became the host of funniest home videos. cnn's brian stelter has more now on saget's legacy. >> reporter: "full house" came on the air in 1987 and went on for many years and continued on in reruns and syndication, et cetera. we don't have television shows
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like "full house" anymore, that appeal to tens of millions of people who all watch at the same time, and that created a type of success and fame for bob saget that is incredibly, vanishingly rare in the entertainment world. >> john stamos remembers, i am broken. i am gutted. i am in complete and utter shock. i will never, ever have another friend like him. i love you so much, bobby. >> another co-host tweeted i don't know what to say. i have no words. bob was one of the best human beings i've ever known in my life. i loved him so much. devastating news about bob sag get today. he graced abc with his presence in two shows, "full house" and "america's funniest videos."
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hard to accept someone so full of life is gone so suddenly. we'll bring you all the tributes. now to another top story today, the world's top men's tennis player has won a legal battle in an australian court. a judge in melbourne overturned the cancellation of novak djokovic's visa. the ruling comes one week before the australian open and days after djokovic's visa was canceled upon arriving to australia. at that time they determined he was not qualified for a medical exemption. patrick snell is joining us from atlanta. phil, let me start with you. this is a significant win for djokovic. i'm not sure the government will like it much. will they challenge it or will the government back down here, phil? >> reporter: well, the government won't like it, isa.
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yes, they may do. the closing moments in the court today the government's lawyer said the immigration minister would consider whether or not to use his personal power to essentially unilaterally cancel the visa. it was noted in the court in those final moments that that was a pretty serious thing. it would also come with a three year ban on entering the country. that would have a big impact on returning to australia for competing in the australian open. we wait with some anticipation to see precisely what the australian government's reaction is to the extraordinary developments in this court today. the court has effectively released a whole bunch of documents following the decision today, including an affidavit, sworn -- given to and sworn by djokovic to his own lawyers, submitted to the court. essentially his account of why
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he was here, what happened. in it contains an interesting fact. we knew from his lawyers that he tested positive or he underwent a test that resulted in a positive result on december 16th. he was aware of that result on december 16th. it's important because something we've been talking about, there are social media posts which show djokovic at various events on the 16th and the 17th with people, including groups of children unmasked and seemingly showing no effort to distance himself from anybody. so it is one of those things that regardless of how the issue of his visa continues to play out, he's going to face guess this you would expect in the coming days and weeks. >> yeah, many more questions. if the government does pursue it, one of the questions they shall be asking. patrick, let me go to you. there was so much at stake for djokovic in this tournament. now the preparations of course
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begin if the australian government doesn't go any further with this. i suspect, you can correct me if i'm wrong, that this may fire him up? >> reporter: you would think so. one week today, isa, the australian open starts. he's looking to win it for a tenth time. looking to win grand slam title 21. if he does that, he'll become the most decorated and successful male tennis player in history in terms of grand slam titles. it's going to be very interesting because we've never seen anything like this before. i would doubt djokovic has ever been anything like this before. what toll will it take on him? you've got to factor in the mental anguish as well he's been through. you can't prepare, i would imagine, for anything like this at all and it's going to be very interesting to see, you know, he is an elite athlete. his preparations are all finely tuned. will those meticulous preparations have been absolutely completely derailed over the coarse of the last few
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days since he stepped foot on australian soil. it will be fascinating to see how it all pans out. however, if there is someone who can rise to the challenge, assuming he does get to play, again, we're still watching that very carefully, it is that man djokovic. he is absolutely determination personified. he is driven by history. he wants number 21 and he wants it as soon as possible in australia. >> yeah. i would like to see what sort of treatment he will get if he does go ahead and play with the news that's incredibly sour at the moment. thank you to you both. now talks between u.s. and russia are underway in switzerland over ukraine. we are live for you in geneva and kiev. that is coming up. plus, the impact on omicron variant in the u.s. we'll see how it's disrupting the classroom and sending the youngest kids to the hospital. you are watching "cnn newsroom."
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care system. new data from the department of health and human services show nearly 1/4 of hospitals have critical staffing shortage. now some states have to deploy national guard troops as health care workers get sick with covid itself. the explosion of the highly contagious omicron variant. hospitalizations to near record levels. at admission children, especially kids, under 5 years old who are still too young, of course, to be vaccinated. >> here's what i can tell you about our pediatric hospitalizations now. first of all, the vast majority of children in the hospital are unvaccinated. and for those children who are not eligible for a vaccination, we do know that they are most likely to get the family members unvaccinated. the most important thing for the children to keep them out of the hospital is to vaccinate them and to vaccinate the family members around them.
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>> now the surge in covid cases are also affecting how kids get educated, of course. the city of chicago has the in-person classes canceled for the fourth day in a row. it's a scene playing out as parents and educators grapple with what's in the best interest of school teachers and children. nadia romero has more. >> reporter: here in georgia the atlantic public school district will be back to school starting on monday after spending a week with remote learning. that means mandatory toasting f -- testing for teachers and students can continue testing as long as they have parental consent. testing remains a big issue when it comes to chicago and new york city. the teachers unions in those cities are battling with their city mayors over how to keep kids in school and do it safely. let's take chicago, for instance, they had three consecutive days last week without having any school at
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all. the teachers union this weekend said they would be willing to come back for virtual teaching, meaning they would be in the classroom teaching while the students were at home remote learning. the mayor of chicago and the mayor of new york city says they only want to see in-person learning and here's why. >> science dictates one thing, the safest place for children is in a school building and what we want to do is not get in the way of preventing children from coming into that building. >> fundamentally what we cannot do is abandon the science. we know that the safest place for kids to be is in schools and we've spent hundreds of millions of dollars to make our schools safe. they are safe. we've got the data that demonstrate that. we've got to get the teachers union to get real and get serious about getting back into influence learning. along with the issues we're seeing in the school room, we're also seeing a rising number of pediatric hospitalizations
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across the country, especially when you look at the age group of those who are 5 and younger and who are not eligible to get vaccinated. that age group we're seeing about a 48% increase of pediatric hospitalizations for 5 and younger. when you look at the week of december 4th compared to the week of january 1st and that is an alarming statistic. nadia romero, cnn, atlanta. meanwhile, schools in los angeles are battling skyrocketing cases by implementing new safety measures. the district is requiring all students and employees to show a negative covid test before returning to the classroom. >> my group chat, they're all testing positive for some reason. i think -- i think it's the new virus or something like that that's going around. yeah. yeah, like all my group chat got positive. we always get tested in school so i don't know. and then we always have this daily pass that we have to enter
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school with and then if it doesn't come out, that means you tested positive and if it doesn't come out, you can't get into school. it's extra safety. yeah, it's not that much of a big deal. >> people in the district who test positive are blocked from setting foot on campus. that affects about 50,000 people who have tested positive in the past week. >> we're so grateful to all of our employees who have come back and gotten tested. as of this morning 85% of our employees have done their baseline test and more than 70% of students have done their baseline test. that's allowed us, as you said, to protect staff and students on tuesday because we've caught 50,000 cases of covid using the baseline tests which means our classes will be significantly safer come tuesday. >> now the los angeles district hasn't had to close any of the more than 1,000 schools. now some countries in europe are imposing new rules to limit covid spreading, including italy
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welcome back to "cnn newsroom." i'm isa soares. if you are just joining us, let me bring you up to date. actor bob saget has died at the age of 65. he was found dead in an orlando area hotel room on sunday. there were no signs of foul play or drug use.
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he was best known for his role as danny tanner and as the host of "america's funniest home videos." 19 people are dead including 9 children after a fire broke out in the bronx. a space heater sparked the fire. it is the worst fire seen in decades. more now on the breaking news we've been following on cnn. tennis star novak djokovic has won his appeal and can remain in australia to play in the australian open. the ruling comes just days after djokovic was detained, if you remember, in melbourne over issues with his covid-19 vaccination exemption. i'm joined by tracy holmes. great to have you on the show. will the government, you think, tracie, appeal this? >> reporter: well, that is definitely something that is being considered by the
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immigration minister now. so as we know, the original cancellation of the visa was done by border force at the australian minister. that comes under the home affairs minister. the court case was with regard to that decision. that being quashed, the court ordering novak djokovic being released. he had his passport and all personal items returned. before the court adjourned counsel for home affairs did alert the judge to the fact the immigration minister now was considering his options. now under particular part of immigration act, the minister may cancel the visa if the minister is satisfied that a ground for canceling exists and the minister is satisfied that it is in the public interest. so this is something that is going to be weighed out very heavily by the federal government and the immigration minister and of course he's been -- this government in particular has been very, very
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tight on border control and many people in the australian public support that position in this era of covid and trying to keep that sickness out of this country. >> and i'm sure, you can correct me here, tracy, i'm sure that for prime minister morrison, this case is perhaps an embarrassment given what we've been hearing from him several weeks now, given as well the fact we've got elections around the corner. politically, how is this being read? >> reporter: it's a very good question, and it's something that has two different answers. so if you are inside australia and you're speaking to a domestic voting cohort with an election only months away, then this actually is the hard line that he is going too want to take. he would probably be speaking to his immigration minister right now deciding kwlwhether they do exercise that right to cancel novak djokovic's visa again and
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have him deported from the country because there is such overwhelming emotion, particularly in melbourne and victoria that had the worst of covid in the two years that we've already had. now going into a third year and the numbers inside australia are escalating as you know. so this kind of fits with that agenda, the fact that whenever border issues are raised such as this on the eve of election, they play well into the hands of the government, but internationally of course it's a very different thing and it's been seen as a very heavy handed approach. the sort of approach where the punishment does not necessarily fit the crime. the crime, of course, being that it's not a criminal act. novak djokovic came in here on a visa that had been approved by the very department that then canceled it once he arrived. >> it is -- you know, it's rather messy, that's for sure, tracy. let's talk about all the emotions there because if the
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government -- australian government does pursue this further, do you think melbourneians, we have been reporting on the show, the kind of restrictions they have faced and the fact they can't see loved ones for such a long time, will they back the prime minister here? >> yes, most likely. a majority of them will because from the beginning public opinion doesn't necessarily always stem from the facts of any particular instance and in this regard a lot of people have the feeling, the emotion that there was somebody being given special treatment, that novak djokovic was allowed to come into australia despite not being vaccinated. he's very publicly claimed that he's not been vaccinated. the reason he was able to come in under very strict guidelines that they have here is that there are exemptions for those who have tested positive
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recently. even medical guidelines for australia say if you have tested positive, you have a six-month window where you have some natural immunity because of the positive nature of your test and that be vaccination is not needed within that time, but that's not something that sat very well with the general population and they just think there should not be any exce exceptions. if you don't have a covid vaccination, you should not be allowed into the country. that's irrespective of the rules, regulations, laws, that's just the emotion. >> that's just the emotion. so many people have made so many sacrifices. we shall see where the australian government takes this. tracy holmes, i appreciate your perspective. thank you very much. >> thank you, isa. u.s. and russian diplomats are meeting this hour with ukraine. high on the agenda, the high stakes talks began 90 minutes ago in switzerland. the americans want russia to end the troop buildup and the kremlin wants guarantees they
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will join nato. they met sunday on a working dinner. they are saying things were difficult but business like. for his part, the u.s. secretary of state had downplayed expectations. an t tony blinken speaking to je tapper. >> what about having -- moving missiles and what about limiting the scope of exercise are any of those on the table? >> first, jake, i don't think we're going to see any breakthroughs in the coming week. we'll put things on the table. the russians will do the same. we'll see if they're grounds for moving forward. >> cnn's live. nic, let me begin with you. how much progress should we expect to see coming out of this
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meeting? >> reporter: the united states sees this as a meeting about bilateral issues about the two states rather than including things about ukraine and including things about nato. that's not how russia perceives it. russia perceives them as being the prime mover f. they can get them to change their position, that's to deny ukraine to join nato, roll back the military expansion is the word russia uses. nato will see it as deployment against eastern europe. that appears to be pretty much a non-starter. the positions are very, very different. the approaches are very, very different here. the deputy u.s. secretary of state, wendy sherman, who's leading the u.s. delegation is a very experienced negotiator for the state department. she was heavily involved at a very senior level in the iran nuclear talks negotiations a few
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years ago. she comes to the table with the position that the united states won't discuss ukraine or other broader issues that go beyond the united states direct bilateral purview without those other partners being in the room and that's not the position that russia comes into this at all. she is of the view that the united states is keeping its allies completely on site, that the state department has been very clear laying out just how much leg work secretary of state antony blinken has put in, the phone calls he's made, the conversations he's had with many partners in europe, including ukraine. that is to show that they are completely lined up and have a united position that if russia doesn't de-escalate and if it does move to invade ukraine, there will be serious economic consequences and the potential for military consequences as well. so the positions, i think, are very different here and, therefore, what to expect at the
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end of today, frustration potentially on the russian side who have already expressed concerns that they're not going to get what they want at this round of talks. >> let's go to sam. and, sam, you know, we heard at the top of the show, we were talking about that, russia wants a guarantee that nato won't expand to include ukraine. john stultenberg has already talked about it. what does ukraine want to see from nato here? >> reporter: well, ukraine is not a member of nato, as you observed there. >> yes. >> reporter: it would like to be because it would like to be like the baltic states, under the nato security blanket that would have meant that if any territory was invaded by any country, there would be an automatic collective defense of that country. that's exactly what ukraine is looking for. the ukrainians are meeting today. the deputy prime minister is
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meeting today. they are alongside the georgians who also have some of their territory occupied by russian will be meeting with senior military leaders on thursday. the signal coming from russia is not membership but they are putting a reassuring arm around the two countries, particularly ukraine suffering an immediate threat from russia there. have been signals from the united states, brittain and others that they will be stepping up military aid in the form of weaponry. there's been reporting in "the new york times" over the weekend of a communication between the russians -- rather, from the americans to the russians saying if you do try and take anymore territory, we'll be sponsoring a guerrilla insurgency there trying to boost the failed russian invasion which was defeated as the united states and afghan adventure there by insurgencies. these are very much in the
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background. in the foreground from the ukrainian perspective, they want to continue to pursue their right as a sovereign nation, as they're saying. the foreign minister tweeting today saying let's call a spade a spade. what we want is sovereignty and what the russians are demanding, particularly at these talks in geneva, is some kind of american acquiescence to roll the clock back to 1997. >> these will be long diplomatic talks. nic robertson and sam kiley, thank you very much. kazakhstan's president is calling the recent violence an attempted coup. order has been resolved. at least 150 people are dead and nearly 8,000 others are being detained after the crackdown and protests. it expanded to anger as
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government corruption, poverty and unemployment. a court in myanmar has sentenced aung san suu kyi to four years in prison on several charges including smuggling walkie-talkies. she's on trial for instances of more than 100 years. in december she was sentenced to four years on charges of incitement and breaking covid-19 rules. that sentence was later reduced to two years. she has denied all charges. now an ambitious goal for chinese authorities as they work to test the entire population of a large city for coronavirus. we've got the latest in a live report straight ahead. symptoms, hift to fr get your zzz's... and get back to your rhythm. ♪ the relief you need. the cash you want. blendjet's holiday sale is on now for the #1 gift this holiday season, the blendjet 2 portable blender. it packs the power
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now the omicron variant is pushing covid case numbers to new records in a number of countries and prompting some governments to take strict
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measures to stop the spread. the entire city of tianjin in china with 14 million is under lockdown. authorities are testing everyone for covid after multiple new infections were reported including omicron cases. starting today, italy will require a super green pass to access most businesses as well as public areas. it is only available to those who are fully vaccinated and no option for a negative test. covering both of those stories. nina, let me start with you in italy. talk to us about this green pass and how it's being received there. >> reporter: the super green pass is adding on an extra layer of security from the green pass. if you go to italy, i was there recently, it is very strictly enforced. you have to show a bar code that includes details of your immunity status for covid-19.
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you could also if you didn't want to be vaccinated or couldn't be vaccinated for some reason, you could show evidence of a negative test in the last 48 hours. that's the last bit that crucially has been removed here. essentially meaning that people do have to get vaccinated. narrowing the window of opportunity for those who are stringently against vaccination, of which there is a vocal minority in northeastern italy which, by the way, i should point out has often been vocal about vaccinations even predating the pandemic. it's a legacy issue italy is having to deal with. regional presidents have been piling on the pressure to the prime minister to make sure more and more italians can get vaccinated closing all of those loopholes. if you want to go into a work space and even if you're 50 years old, you have to be vaccinated and show evidence of your immunity status.
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you can't say you're 48 hours plus negative in terms of a test. you want to go to a ski resort, restaurant, so on and so forth that also applies. italy has a vaccination takeup rate of around about 85% with the recent measures and measures to push the over 50s of working age population as well to get vaccinated, isa. that has led to a three fold increase in the number of 50s that have taken up the vaccine in italy. there is evidence that these measures are working. of course, as you can imagine, they're rather divisive and getting a mixed reaction, isa. >> nina, stay with us. steven jiang, in xi'an -- in tianjin, pardon me. we have seen them stacking up testing everyone. given china's zero covid policy, how worried are authorities there? >> reporter: isa, this is really
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their worst nightmare because how highly transmissible this variant has been around the world and also given tianjin's proximity to beijing. that's where the winter olympics are going to open in 3 1/2 weeks. that's why this is a double whammy. largely they've shut down travel between the two neighboring cities. there usually is a large amount of commuting traffic with high speed trains running back and forth every 30 minutes every day. those services have been stopped. they must work at home until further notice. in tianjin, authorities have implemented around china whenever a local outbreak emerges, that is mass testing and contact tracing. one other thing they've been doing is to reassure the public of the supply and deliveries of daily necessities, including groceries and medicines because they tried to avoid the fiasco
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that we saw in xi'an as you mentioned a few weeks ago when that city woent into a local shutdown. this was first with school children and there are young patients they're dealing with. two more omicron cases found in central chinese province ofof hunan. it's confirming the authorities' worst fear. there's a growing sense of urge against -- urgency and concern. >> we shall see what happens around the lunar new year. steven jiang and nina dos santos, thank you. parts of the u.s. facing some bitter cold weather. we'll go to the cnn weather center for the forecast. that's just ahead. ght back wher. break the cycle with microban 24. just spray once and and your surfaces are protected against bacteria all day.
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frigid arctic airs in the upper midwest and northeast. around 30 million people are facing wind chill threats. the latest for cnn's pedram javaheri. across north america. you'll notice wind chills down to 45 below zero. that is what you're going to feel in the morning hours of minnesota. it's 30 to 35 below zero. cold enough and there is a policy here where wind chills are 35 or lower. schools are called up. digital age, there's more to cause closures. you can see the perspective.
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chicago, low temperatures on tuesday morning. only 2. 19 what is considered normal in minneapolis. without the wind. 9 when it's normal. that sets up shop across portions of the northeast. fortunately relatively short lived. still can get lower across the interior portions of new york. late january, early february is when we expect the coldest in north america. maybe a couple of weeks ahead of time. the high temperatures. in boston, only 13 on tuesday afternoon. laguardia forecast in new york, around 20 degrees tuesday afternoon as well. the national weather service has several parts around 15 for an afternoon high. last time it was this cold in the afternoon, back in 2019.
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it speaks to the incredible nature across parts of the northwest. isa? >> thank you very much. the national football league is on sunday. it's tieing things up. both teams would have advanced from the players if they tied. the raiders had other plans kicking a game-winning field goal as time expired . side lined for two years. the teammates and fans were on
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their feet. scored 17 points in 20 minutes. they beat the cavaliers 96-82. and the golden globes were a private event this year with no televised service, no audience and no live stream. the scaled down event was due to the surging covid-19. following a controversy over the lack of diversity. the first golden globes win ever for a south korean actor. that does it for me here on "cnn newsroom." i'm isa soares. "early start" is up next. keep in touch with me. i shall see you tomorrow. do stay right here with cnn.
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