tv Don Lemon Tonight CNN January 5, 2022 11:00pm-12:00am PST
just four months ago, brooks was honored on his 112th birthday with a drive by celebration and parade at his home in new orleans. the city also issued an official proclamation recognizing brooks' milestone birthday. what an extraordinary life. thank you for your service. the news continues, let's turn things over to don and don lemon tonight. >> we should all be so lucky to live so long and have such a legacy. you know, anderson, i was watching you earlier, that guy, part of the greatest generation, you were talking to arthur caplan, and i thought it was a fascinating conversation about what is the line between personal responsibility and, you know, following the rules and helping the greater good as mr. brooks' generation did. that line is skewed now. >> yeah, we don't talk about citizenship a lot, and being a citizen and what that means and what responsibilities come with that, i think. i think it's something we should try to talk about more, yeah.
>> i'll see you tomorrow from the capitol on on that very somber day that we'll be sadly marking. thank you, anderson, have a good evening. see you tomorrow. this is don lemon tonight. thank you so much for joining us. i was just talking to anderson about we're hours away. just a couple of hours away from the first anniversary of the attack on our nation's capitol. we're marking it not as a celebration. it was a terrible day, and i want you to think about what tonight was like just one year ago. do you remember what you were doing one year ago, we had no idea, right? maybe you were watching election coverage of the georgia special election. maybe you were doing something else entirely. but you probably weren't aware that the crowds were gathering in washington, d.c., that the surge of anger and resentment was building, fueled by lies and manipulated by a malignant sore loser into something that we could never have dreamed, never have dreamed possible, more of a nightmare, really.
an attack on the seat of our democracy by a horde of our own fellow citizens. a year ago tonight, america had no idea what was being planned for the very next day. we were so naive, right. the very next day was one of the darkest days in this nation's history. that's when those violent rioters attacking the seat of our democracy, beating police officers, breaking in to the united states capitol. sad, really. can you believe it? forcing our elected officials to really run for their lives. putting up a gallows outside, threatening to hang the vice president, mike pence. [ chanting hang mike pence ]
you know sometimes it seems like we have looked at these videos every day for the past year. and they definitely deserve to be at the top of the news for the past year and for years to come. and it's getting to the point where i wonder and frankly, i worry that we have become desensitized to it because that's exactly what they want for us to get tired of it or become desensitized to it so they can run rough shot over our democracy, that we will move on, meaning the people who are right thinking people and the media, the truth tellers, that we will somehow move on from this debauchery. we're in danger of it turning into another thing we fight over. telling the truth in the face of all the gas lighting and the whitewashing is very difficult, and maybe you want to tune it out, maybe, because it is a very
ugly truth. but the truth is that january 6th was as close as we have ever come in modern history to losing our democracy, and that threat is not over. the attorney general today, merrick garland vowing to hold the perpetrators responsible no matter who they are. defendants have been arrested and charged for their roles in the january 6th attack, and house select committee investigating the attack is following the trail deeper into the former president's inner circle. just in this last 24 hours, releasing texts from fox propaganda network star sean hannity, asking to talk to him and to the former vice president mike pence who had to flea the capitol with rioters just minutes away, and tonight the one time white house press secretary stephanie grisham speaking to the committee. we all saw what happened on january 6th, we saw it with our own eyes but the right is still trying to whitewash that history, so let me get this straight. this is not a tourist visit. those rioters were not peaceful
patriots, they were not antifa, they were not black lives matter, they were trump supporters. and they were trying to overthrow our free and fair election. you don't have to look far to see the damage done in this country, the damage still being done, the capitol police chief says that the department filled a record number of threats against our elected officials last year. 9,600. 9,600 threats they fielded against our elected officials in washington. a year ago tonight, america had no idea what was being planned for the very next day, and look at what's happened since then. what's happened to us? that's a very good question. what has happened to us? look at how many people are under attack every day in a very angry america. i didn't expect to hear this today from the attorney general but the truth is all too obvious. >> police officers who put their
lives on the line every day to serve our communities have been targeted with extraordinary levels of violence. flight crews have been assaulted, journalists have been targeted, school personnel and their families have been threatened. a member of congress was threatened in a gruesome voice mail that asked if she had ever seen what a 50 caliber shell does to a human head. these acts and threats of violence are not associated with any one set of partisan or ideological views. but they are permeating so many parts of our national life that they risk becoming normalized and routine if we do not stop them. that is dangerous for people's safety and it is deeply dangerous for our democracy. >> i want you to really think about this. maybe you have, it's been too
much. i know a lot of people it's hard to watch the news. it's too much for them to take. they have dialled out. i get it. it's a lot. we've got through a lot over the last couple of years, really the last six years, a lot. think about where we were, though, just one year ago tonight. where are we going to be one year from now? or even two years from now? let's bring in now cnn senior legal analyst, preet bharara, a former u.s. attorney. good evening to you. how are you doing? >> good to see you. >> good to see you as well. what has happened in this democracy since this insurrection on january 6th and where is this all heading? >> not good. the assessment is not good. people have been circulating on social media and other places i think something that's very important, the immediate reactions of a lot of people, republicans in particular in the
wake of january 6th, many of them were calling out the violence, calling out how terrible a transgression this was, how undermining of democracy it was, and then they put their fingers up in the political winds and you have the base that said some of the things that you mentioned earlier, they were tourists, they were patriots or it was antifa or some other group not affiliated with donald trump and his supporters. and a lot of that has changed, and so in some ways you might have predicted on january 6th that the country might have come together to condemn all of the things that happened and work in ways to improve our laws, to improve the security of the capitol, to improve and strengthen democracy, and i fear not to sound too pessimistic, the opposite has happened, people hardened into their camps and the sentiment of donald trump on that day that was so damming, i think, when he said at some point, i love you to the people who had engaged in all of this criminal activity, 725 defendants and counting, as you
said, a lot of people have come around to that point of view, whether they believe it or not. some people believe it, and i think have been radicalized by t and a lot of important officials including members of the senate and other powerful officials in the republican party don't believe it. they know what happened was wrong, but they go along with it because they think it's electorally helpful to them. >> and they are using those people in a way, they have coopted them, right, and they have acted upon whatever it is, i don't want to say that it's their ignorance or them not being -- them being unaware that they are being used by their own elected officials. in his speech today, the attorney general merrick garland pushed back against the criticism that this is taking too long to get accountability for the attack on the capitol, and our jeffrey toobin summed it up, garland's speech this way, just be patient. i'd say the response is, okay, but what are we going to do about it?
so the question is what are we going to do about it? what are they going to do about it. >> i think the speech was a good speech overall, and i understand why some people might have a mixed reaction to it. bear in mind, the justice department has certain norms and traditions that are tested from time to time, but you don't, you know, go in front of the public and give detailed updates about what's going on behind the scenes, and who you're investigating and who the targets are, and who you've interviewed and everything else. they're in a great disadvantage in that regard as compared to the january 6th select committee who whenever they want they can release texts between sean hannity and other folks, they can release excerpts of testimony, they can talk about who's come in, they can talk about who's cooperating and who's not. people have a very very good sense of what aggressive tactics and approaches are being taken by the 1/6 committee. the justice department doesn't have that. what i found very notable is this one paragraph in merrick
garland's speech where he talks about how the department is completely committed to going after every january 6th perpetrator at any level, whether they were present or otherwise criminally responsible, and that is to address, i think, a concern that people had that not only were some people not being held accountable, ultimately, but they weren't even being scrutinized, a little inside baseball, if you're on the public information office's e-mail list like i am and i'm sure your producers are, eight minutes before merrick garland gave that address today, we received an e-mail that contained an advance excerpt from the speech. often an entire speech is embargoed and e-mailed to press so they can have a chance to, and there was only one paragraph sent out, and it was that paragraph about the commitment to hold anyone accountable at any level whether they were present or not, which seems to me in context not to be mere boilerplate, but to try to send a message to everyone without saying it by name, without mentioning donald trump or mark meadows or others by name, saying they will not shrink from investigating those people as
appropriate. so i think as far as that goes, that was important in reassuring. what we don't know is what activity has been going on, what investigation has been going on in the same way that we do with the 1/6 committee. >> the thing here, preet, is that usually you deal with the politics of it, right, you've got the midterm elections and everything is sort of in its you know, in its own corner so to speak, in its own bucket. but now you have the political and the legal, right, meeting together. and so the political is actually putting pressure on the legal part of it because when the politics change, if they do, then this investigation changes as well. so that is a huge factor in what's happening here, and quite sad. >> yeah, well, i think what merrick garland was trying to do is separate those things. you know, anybody who's been in
the department for a period of time and understands the proper culture of the place and has taken that oath like i have taken on more than one occasion understand that justice is justice and politics is to be kept separate. that doesn't mean that merrick garland doesn't understand we live in a real world in which the lack of public confidence and faith that the department is doing everything appropriate within the constraints of the law to hold people accountable, that concern persists, and so what he was trying to do was tell everyone, you know, sit back, we're prepared to do what is needed to be done, no matter what level folks may be at. we'll follow the facts, we'll follow the law. we'll follow the physical evidence, we'll follow the communications evidence. but essentially he was saying we're not going to be swayed by politics. we understand there's a concern, we need to make sure the people have faith and confidence that we're doing the right thing. that we're not afraid of going after powerful folks but we can't tell you too much about it, and sort of trust us a
little bit, and i understand for people outside the department why that is not that reassuring but i think the words he uttered today were helpful. >> let's talk more about the january 6th investigation. stephanie grisham seen leaving her meeting with the committee telling reporters tonight that she cooperated fully at the time of the capitol attacks she was chief of staff to the first lady, melania trump and was the first in the trump administration, the first administration official to resign that day. the committee is clearly getting to the center of the trump family and what they did that day. how do you read this? >> i think they're focusing on the exact right thing. if one of the -- is what was in donald trump's mind, what was his state of mind, did he intend to incite his supporters to go to the capitol to engage in violence or at a minimum to try to obstruct the counting of votes and certification of votes, then it's important to understand from the people around him, stephanie grisham,
his daughter, his son, and others, his chief of staff, what his reaction was. and as the famous 187 minutes or 3 hours and 7 minutes during which donald trump didn't do anything, even though as we know now he was implored to do so based on reporting by his daughter, by sean hannity, by members of congress, and the fact that he didn't do anything, as, you know, is coming out from these witnesses that you say they're focusing on, the fact that he didn't do anything is consistent with his state of mind earlier in which he would have intended to incite the crowd. if he was mortified by the violence, if he was mortified by what his supporters were doing, if he didn't want them to do those things and he thought they were misconstruing his exhortations to them in the speech he gave on january 6th, then he would have sprung into action earlier. so i think all of that evidence from all of those witnesses who were in around him or people who were themselves in and around the vicinity of the white house, incredibly important to
establish donald trump's own culpability and that at the end of the day is one of the most important things to do here. >> preet, thank you, appreciate the conversation. >> thanks so much. so they were trapped inside the capitol when a violent mob attacked, fearing for their lives, but now one year later, the republican party is all in on the big lie that fueled the whole thing. what does that mean for the future of our democracy? nsuranc, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪
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in just a few hours, we're going to mark the one year anniversary of the deadly insurrection at the capitol. the white house saying that president biden will speak about the january 6th assault from the capitol sanctuary hall and will discuss the former president's role in the riot. let's bring in cnn political director david chalian, and cnn political analyst, kirsten powers, the author of "saving grace" good evening to both of you. david, one year after the constitutional process in the modern era, what does that mean for the future of our elections and our democracy, quite frankly? >> it means nothing good. i mean, it means our democracy is in pretty serious peril, don. i don't know that there's another way to see it. i think, you know, you noted the republican party, a majority of
republicans in poll after poll after poll tell us they are fully bought in to president trump's lie about the 2020 election. and in fact, "the washington post" has reporting tonight that says 163 republicans, according to "the washington post" tally, are running for statewide elected offices across the country, and these people have expressed and embraced trump's lie, and they're running for office to have oversight over some portion of the election apparatus in their states. this is what it means to have a democracy in peril. i know that a majority of americans understand that joe biden was legitimately elected. but that is meaningless in the face of these attempted efforts to put people into positions of oversight over elections who have expressed a total embrace of an attempted coup and a
totally false narrative about a legitimate election. >> i want to play this for you, some of what we heard from republicans, this is shortly after the january 6th attack. and then we'll talk. >> the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress. >> president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. >> all i can say is count me out. enough is enough. >> and then fast forward, and mccarthy in a letter to his colleagues this week blaming security failures doesn't even mention trump, is the effort to whitewash the attack, is that working? >> well, it's working with a certain group of people. you know, as david was pointing
out, most americans do understand what happened, but there's a large section of americans, particularly people who are republican trump supporting people who think the election was stolen, and think that they can't trust the electoral process, and they believe in the big lie. and the fact that you have leaders in the republican party, people that you just played them talking who very quickly backed away from the statements that they were making and when it really was their responsibility to be leaders and tell people perhaps doing what liz cheney is doing saying that no one thought this was a legitimate election, and we should all believe that. you know, they put their fingers in the air and saw which way the wind was blowing and it was blowing in the direction of donald trump, so they have bought into this, and there can be no donald trump, there can be no loss of democracy.
there can be no authoritarian government without people like that. it doesn't happen just with one person. it happens because mitch mcconnell goes along with it. it happens because lindsey graham goes along with it. that's how it happens. >> david, you know, she mentioned liz cheney, and she's part of this "new york times" excellent piece, ten republicans who voted to impeach trump after january 6th and the consequences of that vote, representatives gonzalez and kinzinger, they're retiring, liz cheney was stripped of her leadership position. reps hererra butler, peter mayor, and fred upton have trump endorse primary challengers, and the others are just trying to stay under the radar. the people who had the courage to stand up to the insurrection have been isolated. is there no one left for the next time? >> well, i think one of the great story lines to watch this year are these ten pro
impeachment republicans. you noted two have announced that they're not running for election, so the eight that are, especially where they have trump-backed challengers, let's see. let's see if donald trump's power within the republican party can defeat all of those folks. that will solidify a party that is crafted and totally molded in the image of donald trump, but if some of these folks who voted to impeach the president are able to push back that challenge and defeat it and win reelection despite the trump backed forces against them, you might start seeing that kind of movement of growth. it shows that showers, especially in some red places, but all indications are right now that the trump side of the party is the one inside primary
politics with the activist base juice, and you will see is, it won't be ten if it were to happen again next time around, you'll see those numbers shrink, people willing to stand up and take on, you know, defend the constitution over what their party is doing for political purposes. >> got a quick question, i know that i was probably preparing for our coverage of certifying the election, but do you remember what you were doing on the night of january 5th, david? >> yeah, i mean, the night of january 5th on this night a year ago, we were covering the georgia runoff races. remember, we had those two georgia senate races and we were in full election coverage. and i just went back and looked on the morning of the 6th, one of the things i was doing on tv that morning was going through that electoral count act and explaining exactly how things were expected to unfold in the ceremony on the 6th of january. of course nothing unfolded the
way that it was expected to unfold. >> kirsten, do you remember? >> i don't remember what i was doing the night before, but i just remember the day of. it's seared in my memory, i will never forget it, you know, sitting in front of the television and watching that and just trying to process what i was seeing. >> yeah, you jogged my memory, david. i remember i was up late covering that election, and then so i wasn't on the air. but glued to the television because i was watching you guys, and i was like what is going on here, like what are those pictures from the capitol. we don't know what's happening, and then all of a sudden, it unfolded into an insurrection and chaos, and we didn't know if it was going to be successful. we had no idea. >> cuts to our core. >> it certainly did. thank you, both. out of the gop, a colorado representative says that after a year of trying to pivot his party from trump, he is done. he speaks out here next.
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so we are hours away from the one-year anniversary of january 6th and the fealty to the former president is as strong as the day he left office. the house minority leader kevin mccarthy calling the partisan committee a political weapon. marjorie taylor greene and matt gaetz say they will give a response to president biden's january 6th speech, as if there's another side. one former colorado state representative has had enough tweeting it has been one year since january 6th, 2021. all downhill from there. election lies, vaccine
misinformation making it harder to vote, excusing january 6th thuggery, conspiracy theories galore, i'm tired. i tried, excuse me, i encouraged a reason. i urged a pivot from trump. i failed. i'm out. #unaffiliated. that was cole wist, a former colorado house assistant minority leader and he joins me now. cole, good evening to you. very brave of you. >> evening, don. >> that's very brave of you, where did you get the guts to do that? >> well, you know, i think i was raised in a family where we rise up and do the right thing, tell the truth. the republican party used to stand for telling the truth, and unfortunately we've seen that it no longer does that. i'm not sure how the party of ronald reagan, the man who became the party of matt gaetz, marjorie taylor greene, lauren boebert and other folks who simply will not be straight with the american people.
so it was just time for me to make a pivot. >> you said you don't know how, but do you have an idea because it's -- it is -- i think it's shocking to most people. did you feel that the republican party was moving in that direction for some time now, though? >> well, you know, i guess if you want to blame people that voted for donald trump in 2016, you're looking at one who is in that camp. and i was an elected republican at that time, i voted for the standard bearer of the party, and i believed, and obviously i think naively so looking back that donald trump would change, that he would rise to the occasion, that he would become the leader of our country. sadly, we saw time after time after time where this man did not rise to the occasion and instead divided our country and appealed to the worst of us. and i think i guess the breaking point, don, with charlottesville, a very sad day
in american history. just like january 6th when this man failed to lead our country, it failed to unite us, and that's when i began my journey, trying to figure out if there was a home for me in the republican party and it resulted in me leaving yesterday. >> yeah. listen, as you just said, you voted for trump in 2016, but then you supported biden in november of 2020. >> i did. >> one month later you co-wrote an op-ed in "the denver post," this is part of it, part of donald trump's departure will lay bear the deep divisions in the grand old party that have been simmering over the last four years. will trump loyalists split off and form their nationalist party or will trump's influence over the party continue forcing more traditional republicans to fall in line for fear of facing their own primary nightmare scenarios or will they become independent. so what do you think when you look back now at that? was it a lost opportunity? >> i think we had an opportunity
to pivot from trump. january 6th, and going back and listening in the segment before i came on, the words of kevin mccarthy, lindsey graham, ted cruz, and others who clearly called out the president that day. that was our opportunity to pivot away from donald trump. and we wasted that opportunity. >> yeah. listen, to say you have to respect -- if you're a republican, you're a republican. you have to respect that, right. you have conservative values and ideals, you're not going to become a democrat, you said, you are unaffiliated, that's why you did #unaffiliated, do you have hope for your former party? >> i still have friends in the party. i have hope for them, but unless this party stands up and starts telling the truth, and unless they stand up to this man who defies our democracy and who is intent on propelling himself forward and sending the country
back, unless the party is willing to tell donald trump enough, i'm afraid that the gop is on the road for more losses of folks like me. you started tonight's show with a question, what has happened to us? what has happened to the republican party? how did we get here, and we got here because leaders refused to stand up to this man. frankly cowardice and refusal to see who this man truly is has led the republican party to be where it is today. >> cole wist, thank you, happy new year to you. >> thank you, don take care. so breaking tonight, school canceled for hundreds of thousands of kids in chicago for the second day in a row, and the chicago's health commissioner has a bone to pick about that. she's next.
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so here's our breaking news tonight in the battle against covid-19, with the number of new cases exploding, including record numbers of cases in children tonight, the cdc updating its recommendations on who's eligible for the pfizer booster shot now saying children 12 to 15 years old can get the booster, at least five months after they finish the primary vaccine series. cdc had already recommended that americans 16 and older get their booster shots. and more breaking news to tell you about, school will be cancelled again tomorrow for 340,000 public school students in chicago due to a major battle over covid-19 between the
district and the teachers union. union members voting last night to stay out of school buildings and to teach remotely, claiming classrooms are not a safe environment. the district responding by cancelling school today. chicago's mayor saying millions of dollars have been spent on covid protocols and that students and teachers belong inside classrooms. let's discuss now. dr. allison arwady is here, a commissioner of chicago's department of public health. we're so happy that you're here. thank you so much, i appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> more than 340,000 kid are going to be out of the classrooms tomorrow. they were out today in your city. i know you're not happy about this. >> i'm not. you know, i'm disappointed that this is where we are. i know we are in the middle of a big covid surge. it's important that we do the things that we know work. but what we've seen over and over again is that with the appropriate protocols in place,
schools are not major sources of transmission of covid. they don't drive outbreaks, and we've seen chicago public schools just like our non-public schools in chicago do a good job of implementing those. so we know people are worried. we just want to get back. >> we played it just before the break where you said that we don't shut down schools for the flu, they shouldn't be shut down now. can you give us a reality check on the spread of covid in schools? >> yeah, i can. so, you know, and this is where my team has been looking at this. we looked at how many children in a typical year are hospitalized with the flu in chicago. it's comparable to what we're seeing with how many children are hospitalized with covid. we looked in addition at what's happening to fully vaccinated, especially and boosted adults, that is not who is being hospitalized with covid or
getting seriously ill by and large in the city of chicago, and in that setting, we compare that with the data where we had our public schools out of school earlier in covid, and we have the largest private school district right here in chicago in person, the comparison between those for months, the risk of covid was lower for both kids and staff who were in-person, in school with mitigations. we know how to do this at this point, and we just saw such negative consequences, almost 100,000 kids disconnected from learning with the extended remote period, and i'm just worried that not being able to be back in person could just keep going on here. and we've got to at some level learn to live with covid with the appropriate safety mitigations in place. >> so let me ask you this because i can hear the folks at home saying this is a novel virus and many people are not vaccinated and it's replicating and mutating, and we don't know how dangerous it is, and you know pretty much what's going to happen with the flu, it's been with us for quite a long time. you don't think it's right to take extra precautions because
this is so new? >> oh, i absolutely think it's right to take extra precautions. we don't do all the other things that we also have in place for flu, and we should, don't get me wrong, but this is fair, making sure, literally for chicago public schools just to give you a sense of this, classroom by classroom, every single week, you can look at the air ventilation that's been invested in to see what's in place. there are masks, including high quality masks that are in place. there's testing, even while school is not in session, there is testing available in every cps school this week. there are vaccination clinics available, you know, these pieces are here. and if i thought that having school was going to lead to unnecessary spread, major outbreaks, major problems, first i would be in support of it. it's just not what the data suggests. if i knew omicron was going to
peak tomorrow, this would be easy. if this is a pattern and we keep on going with it where we just don't see children and fully vaccinated adults often getting sick with covid, not seriously ill, at some level, we have to do the things that are essential. for me, schools first to open last to close, and in a city where bars are open, why would schools be closed. i hope we don't get to a point where we have to do those other things. that's the difficult conversation. >> i think everyone can agree, kids should be in school, and also we need to be, you know, they're the littlest among us we have to take care of them. >> yeah, absolutely. >> thank you, doctor, good luck and we'll be checking back with you to see what happens. >> thank you, we hope this gets resolved really soon. thanks a lot. two years into this pandemic, what price have these kids paid while adults made all the decisions. just talking about that, right, stay with us.
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so tomorrow we just talked about it. more than 340,000 public school children in chicago will not be in class for a second day because of a fight between adults. that as medical experts say it is imperative america's children get back into the classroom and we have the tools to keep them safe. i want to bring in now the director of the healthy buildings program at harvard school of public health, the coauthor of the book "healthy buildings" and has been on a lot throughout this pandemic and giving us some great information. children all over the country have had their lives up ended. it resulted in severely stunted education, rise in mental health and behavioral problems and more. heading into year three of this pandemic are we sacrificing kids to protect adults many of whom are choosing not to be vaccinated at this point? >> thanks for having me back on,
don. that is absolutely right. we've deprioritized kids at every step of this pandemic. we are coming up on two years of disrupted learning and there is a casualness around closing schools i just don't understand. the costs are severe and accumulating, well documented. everything from loss in reading and math gains for kids in school. your last caller said a hundred thousand kids missing from the school system last year. we see the immediate impact of school closures on the inability to detect child maltreatment. in new york city in the first three months of closures in 2020, 8,000 expected cases of child maltreatment were expected to come in. that didn't happen. extrapolating out to the country, 300,000 cases. schools are the first chance to detect abuse. we see millions of kids relying on schools for nutrition and food. we see impacts on working women in particular in drop outs of the labor force the closing
schools have ramifications that will last for years if not decades for these kids. i think we're minimizing this damage and making a gross mistake we made last year and we have the data that shows we should have learned our lesson. >> i'll put this up, and he is speaking completely from the medical part of this. he said, anderson, i don't know why we are trying to sail into the omicron storm and run school. why don't we just say take off two weeks, take off three weeks, let this peak. it looks like that it may burn out and give some help to the people in need. so he is basically saying, it's a reasonable time period. and in a couple weeks when this, when the peak is reached and it is going down. so listen. he is speaking from the medical point of view. as far as what's happening with kids i get your point. what do you say to people who might think that and to the chicago teachers union right now who they're not going to be in classes tomorrow?
>> honestly that sounds like a march 2020 solution and we've learned a lot more and have new tools particularly the vaccine. we know how to keep kids and adults safe in schools. i think that is the reality. let's talk about the risk to kids has stayed low through every single variant and wave. hospitalizations while going up are still 1 in 100,000. that is low. thankfully the virus has spared us. in terms of adults there is a highly effective and safe vaccine available to all adults for ten months at this point. and boosters are available. if you want to be protected get vaccinated and boosted. vaccines are available for kids. get your child boosted. if that doesn't feel safe enough for you, and these vaccines are working at preventing severe disease and death by all means wear a high efficiency mask. if you are vaccinated and boosted and wearing a high efficiency mask, that is about as low risk as anything you can get in your entire life. i am really tired of using the 2020 playbook in 2022 and justifying let's just close schools for two weeks. we saw how it went in march
2020. we are coming up on two years. a kindergartener who started school in 2020 is now in second grade and has not had a normal school year yet. >> right on. thanks. i appreciate it. the attorney general vowing to hold january 6th perpetrators accountable. what he said, what the president is set to say tomorrow, and why some republicans claim they need a rebuttal after this. and want to make the right moves fast... get decision tech. for insights on when to buy and sell. and proactive alerts on market events. that's decision tech. only from fidelity.
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