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wrote a message sent by a seemingly disappointed unnamed lawmaker after the capitol was attacked. >> the last message i want to highlight again from a lawmaker in the aftermath of january 6th. if we can queue graphic number three. yesterday was a terrible day, we tried everything we could in our objection to the six states. i'm sorry nothing worked. the day after a failed attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power through violence. >> of course, many of those who were pleading with mark meadows that day now often downplay what happened. mark meadows was on television last night and didn't address the messages, but said this. >> what they have done is had a contempt vote. we tried very hard and very transparent and accommodating way to share nonprivileged information, and what we found out tonight is that not only did
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that just get disregarded, but then they tried to weaponize text message, leaked them to put out a narrative that quite frankly that the president didn't act. and i can tell you, this is the -- the president did act, this is all about, you know, it is not about holding me in contempt, it is about coming after president donald trump and sadly that's what tonight's vote was all about. >> the panel voted unanimously to advance the contempt of congress charges against mark meadows, and today the body he used to serve in will vote on pursuing those contempt charges against him. >> joining us now, democratic congresswoman elaine lori of virginia, a member of the select committee to investigate the january 6th attack. the committee voted to recommend mark meadows for contempt. those text messages that were read out loud during that hearing last night, what did they reveal to you? why are they important? >> well, thanks for having me
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this morning. you know, i think it reveals to me as we talk about this 187 minutes and there were cries, there were pleas to the white house chief of staff's phone via text message. i can imagine it blowing up, make this stop. and from everything we can tell, what did the former president do during that time frame? he could could have very easily made a statement, made a statement to the nation, to these people who were overrunning this very building to say, stop, go home, this is not right. but for 187 minutes, over three hours, nothing was said, nothing was done. and furthermore, and mr. meadows' text, he says back to the president's son, i'm trying, i'm trying. and i'm with you. i understand. but nothing happened. i think that's really why we need to hear from mr. meadows. he was there. he understood what the president was doing, what the president was thinking during this time frame and that's really key to painting the picture of everything that was happening,
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both leading up to and during the day of january 6th. >> nothing happened, you say, during those 187 minutes. mark meadows in an interview we played from last night after your decision, he said, you guys are trying to say the president didn't respond to what was happening on the capitol, but he claims the president did. have you seen any evidence that during that 187 minutes that the president tried to stop it? >> i have not seen any evidence. the committee has not seen any evidence and mr. meadows has been invited to come share that evidence with us. i think that's truly what this is about. he shared thousands of text messages, emails, communication that he had with people both before and during january 6th. and we had that. we have it in writing. we shared some of it last night. we need to hear the context of what was going on, where was he, where was the president, and what was the thought process of the president during this time frame. >> and then i guess the question is, what is the significance of inaction during those 187
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minutes? and the reason i ask that is because the vice chair of the committee, congresswoman liz cheney, said something yesterday that caught a lot of people's attention including mine. she asked this question, did donald trump through action or inaction corruptly seek to obstruct or impede congress' proceedings? the reason that jumped out to me, there is a law that reads exactly like what she said. you can't corruptly obstruct or impede the due or proper administration of the law by congress. so is it possible that the inaction or action of the president during those 187 minutes broke the law? >> that's exactly why we need to -- why we need to hear from mr. meadows. another phrase that liz cheney used was dereliction of duty and being -- that is truly as commander in chief, it seems to me that if the president is
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proven to have not acted, not taken action, not spoken to have people stopped, to leave the capitol, to tell all of the appropriate people who could have done something during that time frame to take action, it is just as much of a problem to not act to sit by to watch something happen as it is to be part of it, and we need to know because the facts are showing us and leading us in the direction that he did both at varying times through the course leading up to and during this day. >> if he crossed that line on that law, what is the possibility that either for donald trump or others that there will be criminal referrals that come from your investigation? >> well, i think the evidence will speak for itself and if we determine that criminal actions were taken, or criminal acts were taken because of inaction and when someone had a responsibility to act, that will be forwarded from the committee and the appropriate manner to the department of justice. but that's exactly why we're conducting this investigation to find out all the facts, to determine what we can do in the
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future to prevent something like this from happening, and as you're saying now to hold people accountable who are responsible. >> it is possible. criminal referrals are possible. you're not ruling that out? >> if there are facts and those facts are available to the department of justice, of course they have the ability to act on those. so that is a possible outcome of the work of this committee. >> want to read another text that came out yesterday. and see if you can provide context. i know it is hard without meadows testifying to provide context here. but this was a text from a lawmaker to mark meadows. yesterday was a terrible day, we tried everything we could in our objection to the six states, i'm sorry nothing worked. and as congressman schiff noted, this was an apology that nothing worked the day after there was a violent attack at the u.s. capitol. who wrote that text? >> as was mentioned yesterday, we are not going to at this point say the originator of each of these texts. but what that text says to me is, you know, you don't apologize for something the other person is not aware of. so that is really filling in the blanks for me is to say i'm
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apologizing, i tried everything, obviously looking at previous conversations, previous plans that could have been in place, but you don't apologize for something that the other person is not even aware of. >> is there more than one member who is corresponding with mark meadows? are there several members who are talking about this after the fact? >> you know, as i said, we released a few of the texts. there is thousands that were provided to the committee. and we will work to put those into context as we paint the picture of the events that happened both that day and prior to january 6th. >> there were a number of texts released that came from people at fox, telling mark meadows to try to do something, to stop the violence. how much interest do you have in speaking to the people who wrote those texts? >> that is of interest. but, you know what i would say it shows and the same thing is shown by many republican members of the house, many senators that everyone was watching what was happening that day, everyone wanted it to stop, everyone wanted the one person i think
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who could have come on the air and immediately called for this to end or sent a tweet to tell people to go home, wanted that one person to act and they knew it was wrong, it reflects no matter where someone is on the political spectrum that everyone knew that this was wrong and this violence was inappropriate. >> and any plans to call anyone from fox to testify at this point? >> we are calling many people. we can invite them, they're free to contact the committee and speak with us. and we will be contacting other witnesses as time goes on. >> finally, just to distinguish here between the various things that happened, clearly mark meadows was involved with members of congress and others to try to get people to vote against the state electors that were there, and submit other slates. do you have any reason to believe that in and of itself that that is against the law? maybe unseemly, may be gross constitutionally, but is it against the law? >> i know there is a plan that was in place.
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obviously many members of the republican caucus felt a lot of pressure to vote in that way, to overthrow the election results and private conversations, i think i had with many of them, they're frustrated by this pressure behind closed doors, will say this is ridiculous, of course the election wasn't stolen, but the pressure they feel to continue to go along with this is really disturbing. >> congresswoman elaine luria of virginia, i appreciate you being with us. i know you have several busy days. a lot of work being done by this committee close to holiday. thank you for being with us. joining us, charlie dent. what do you make of what we heard from the congresswoman on this dramatic new evidence that they revealed last night because we knew mark meadows had a role in this, but they seemed to reveal the extent of that role. >> well, i think it is all very stunning. i mean, the fact that there are conversations between mark meadows, fox news hosts, even a
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protester/rioter, members of congress, i think this is a very revealing -- i think this is -- i think we lose sight of the fact this was a massive crime scene, what happened on january 6th. people forcibly entered a restricted area of the capitol, numerous aggravated assault charges against law enforcement officers, of course trying to desecration and destruction of property in the capitol, and trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power. so i think this is devastating for meadows. seems to me he's kind of one foot in, one foot out. he's already complied. he's provided, you know, massive amounts of documents. and he won't talk about those documents. he's talking about all this stuff in his book. a lot of the stuff in his book. won't talk to congress about it. so i think he's in a no-man's-land. i suspect the former president is putting pressure on him, not to testify so he can't -- he doesn't want to tell the truth, he can't lie either. he's in a bad spot. >> the focus on this 187 minutes
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as congressman luria said to me is very interesting because for all the reporting that has been done and all the discussions we had since january 6th, we know very little about that time period from inside the white house. we know -- you cover it every day. we really don't know. >> it is like a black hole. >> it is a black hole. it is legally perhaps perilous for a lot of people involved, charlie. >> it seemed to me that i thought we kind of understood what was happening, that the president of the united states sicked a violent mob on the capitol, article two attacking article one. now we're getting the details filled in by the people around them. it seems most everybody who cared for the president was trying to encourage him to, you know, call off the dogs. which it took him such a long time to do. and then when he did it, you know, he said he loved them. and so i think this is, again, it is just devastating that the president's state of mind was pretty obvious on that day he seemed to be okay with what was
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happening that day and i thought he helped incite it. >> you say mark meadows is one foot in, one foot out when it comes to this. he turned over the text messages. you saw him on television last night not addressing the messages exactly, but saying he believed they were being selectively leaked. he's the one who actually turned these over. one of the messages from donald trump jr. asking him to get his father to do something, mark meadows said i agree. >> yeah, i mean, by the way, why wouldn't don jr. call his dad as opposed to calling the chief of staff? but, yeah, he's one foot in, one foot out and frankly if i were the select committee, i would just strip this stuff out, every week. i would rip out more. i'm sure they're just teasing everybody now with this information. i bet there's more and they're going to keep doing this. >> how do you think the committee is doing as we sit here? i think we have a different view or the committee looks different today than it may have three weeks ago to a lot of people. a lot has happened in the last few weeks.
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>> i think the committee has been pretty responsible. and i think -- i think if you're kevin mccarthy now, you're probably regretting that you didn't appoint any members to that committee to give an alternative narrative. they don't have one. but -- >> he did, but the ones that he tried to get on were not approved by -- >> two of the five. my own view is pelosi should not are done that. kevin should have appointed the other three. that said, i think the committee is trying to behave in a somewhat nonpartisan manner. and trying to stay to the facts. we're not seeing the usual shoe banging, usual partisan diatribes from the dais. they're reading the facts and i think that's pretty effective. >> there could be more to come. bennie thompson before too long our findings will be out in the open and we'll have public hear aeng ings and tell the story to the american people. charlie dent, thank you for joining us this morning. up next, we'll tell you we
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breaking overnight, an extensive new study out of south africa finds that people infected with the omicron variant are 29% less likely to be hospitalized than those infected with the original virus. children we should note were 20% more likely to be hospitalized. the study also found that two doses of the pfizer vaccine was 33% protective against infection overall, but 70% effective at preventing hospitalization. joining me now is dr. paul offett from the children's hospital philadelphia. thank you for being with us to understand this data. we have other data i want to get to on a bit too. but, look, we have been trying to figure out if omicron causes more severe illness. we have this big study now out of south africa that finds 29% fewer hospitalizations. what does that tell you? >> well, it is encouraging.
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viruses as they continue to evolve to the human population, this is a bad coronavirus that is now trying to adapt to the human population. it does that usually in two ways. one, the virus becomes more contagious, we're seeing that as we go from the original strain, to the alpha strain to the delta strain, now the omicron strain. each one is more contagious than the last. also, it is really never to the advantage of the virus to kill you. it needs you to reproduce itself, it needs you to transmit it from one person to the next. so viruses can become less virulent over time, that might be what is happening here. we'll see. >> so, am i right, though, pfizer is not doing as good of a job. the two-dose pfizer regiment not doing as good of a job preventing infection, serious illness might be another story, but the overall story is the people who are getting infected not as sick. >> right. i do think there are two separate things here. one is protection against serious illness.
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the kind of illness that caused you to go to the doctor, go to the hospital, go to the icu. that's the goal of every vaccine and that's been true for this vaccine as well that for all three variants that have come into this country, two doses of an mrna containing vaccine continues to protect well against serious illness and i think that's likely to also be true for this variant. that's different than protection against mildly symptomatic infection. we were fooled when the phase three trials were given to the committee, when you saw protection against mild illness was 95%. there is no way that was going to last. those were three month trials. those participants had all just recently received the dose of the -- of vaccine, so that had to phase over time. you're asked too much of a vaccine, you're asking to protect against mild illness. we give that booster dose that will fade over time. >> all right, i'm going to put you in the encouraged column right now on the idea that there are fewer hospitalizations from
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omicron that seems to be where it is trending right now. other encouraging news today, pfizer released more data on the antiviral after the fact pill, finding that it reduces hospitalizations and serious illness among people who take it, almost 90%. how important is this? >> it is very important. i think the way that viruses work, this one being a particular example, initially the virus attaches, enters your nose, reproduces itself and reproduces itself hundreds of times, thousands of times. then your immune response kicks in. as your immune response kicks in, that's when you develop symptoms and then the virus reproduces itself less and less. if something like an antiviral medicine is going to work it has to be given early in illness because later in illness, while you're already pretty sick, virus replication is not really an important part of the disease process anymore. i think antivirals are great. they have to be given early, but, remember, you can prevent all this by getting a vaccine. an ounce of prevention is worth
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a pound of cure. >> step one, get vaccinated. that can keep you from getting it. if you do get it, is this the type of thing that could really help suppress this pandemic going forward? is this the type of thing that makes a pandemic endemic? >> yes, so i think it helps. i was on service about a week and a half go and on that week, we admitted a lot of children with covid. more than i had seen actually consistent with the national average. virtually all the children were over 5, many were over 12, i can tell you several were admitted to the intensive care unit. what they had in common is none were vaccinated even though all of them could have been, none of the parents were vaccinated, nun of the siblings were vaccinated. that's the issue. we need to vaccinate the unvaccinated if we ever get on top of the pandemic. >> testing also, right? one thing for the antivirals i will say, you only know to take them if you get tested. >> right. and that's exactly right. also, if you're tested and found
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to be positive, you know, don't go to work. it is -- we used to call it absenteeism this is presenteeism. stay away from other people if you know you're infected. >> dr. paul offit, thank you for helping us to understand the big developments today in this long extended battle that we're all in. i appreciate your time as always. >> thank you. all right, several fox entertainers choosing to whitewash the insurrection on air, even though text messages reveal how they really felt as the u.s. capitol was under attack. a reality check next.
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the january 6th committee released frantic new text mess a ages that were sent to mark meadows on the day of the capitol attack. but the urgent tone in their messages wasn't reflected in their coverage that day. john avlon has more in today's reality check. >> when the capitol was attacked, they knew it had all gone too far. fox news hosts were texting with
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white house chief of staff begging him to have trump call the rioters off. rarely does history allow you to see what people were thinking in real time. but these texts do. and one is especially revealing. this is hurting all of us. that's what laura ingram said. and the all of us there doesn't seem to mean all americans. it means the right wing water carriers for trump. these text messages ripped the curtain back, it shows they thought of themselves as partisan political enablers first, not journalists, and they knew it wasn't a mostly peaceful protest. that shock of recognition only lasted a few minutes because hours later they were back in hyperpartisan distortion land, spreading desperate deflections and fox news viewers were once again being played for fools. take a listen. >> i have never seen trump rally attendees wearing helmets, black
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helmets, brown helmets, black backpacks, the uniforms that you saw in some of these crowd shots, have you ever seen them wearing as chris said those knee pads and the -- all the pads on their elbows? i just -- i've been to a lot of the rallies, i know you both have covered them, i've never seen that before. ever. >> everyone knew going in today this crowd was going to be massive. they knew there were hundreds of thousands of people that came to town. we also knew there is always bad actors that will infiltrate large crowds. i don't care if the radical left, radical right, i don't care who they are, they're not people i would support. how were officials not prepared? we got to answer that question. >> they knew this wasn't some false flag operation. they knew it wasn't antifa or black lives matter because they knew in real time that the capitol was being attacked by trump supporters. but their inability to tell the truth when the microphones were on allowed the big lie to
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metastasize. it is not surprising that last night as liz cheney was reading the new evidence out loud, fox was ignoring the whole thing, offering up this ironic instant classic of a banner at the bottom of the screen, talking about lawlessness. because, of course, what is being revealed is just how lawless the trump republican party really is. beyond the texts over the last few days we learned even more about how this attempt to disrupt and overturn the election was being quarterbacked out of the white house. the 9,000 pages of documents that mark meadows handed over to the committee before belatedly claiming executive privilege, we can see in their own words how close america came to having democracy dismantled. less than a week after the election, there is an email showing efforts to pressure state legislators to appoint pro-trump electors over the biden electors chosen by the voters. we have gotten some insight into meadows efforts to press federal agencies to investigate insane election conspiracy theories involving foreign nations from italy to china and claims of
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remote hacking with satellites and even thermostats. we have seen other memos from trump lawyers, and reports about an unhinged power point full of conspiracy theories whose author says he met with meadows in the white house. not only that, the chief of staff was communicating with members of congress, trying to overturn the election while also assuring at least one person that the national guard would protect pro trump people on january 6th. this is the opposite of law and order. it is the most sickening example of putting partisanship over patriotism in our history. they were actively trying to overturn democracy just to stay in power, and the fact that so many of them were willingly duped by the big lie speaks to how pervasive it had become on right wing talk tv. in those desperate texts, maybe fox hosts realize they helped create the conditions that led to the capitol attack. and now, they're responsible for perpetuating the big lie, which allowed the leader of an attempted coup to aim for the
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presidency again. it is all evidence of how profiting off polarization can be deadly for our democracy. and that's your reality check. >> appreciate it as always, john avlon. thank you. a desperate rescue effort at the kentucky candle factory that took a direct hit from a tornado. we're joined by the factory's chaplin who helped pull survivors from the rubble next. and should the definition of fully vaccinated go from two shots to three? what the cdc director just said about the evolving science. hello, for the last few years, i've been a little obsessed with chasing the big idaho potato truck. but it's not like that's my only interest. i also love cooking with heart-healthy, idaho potatoes. always look for the grown in idaho seal.
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i >> this morning, search and rescue efforts continue, the hardest hit state kentucky, 109 people still missing. one family there has revealed their 2-month-old daughter died from injuries sustained from the storm. president biden is set to travel to kentucky tomorrow and visit the town of mayfield, that's where a candle factory with more than 100 people inside collapsed
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into this pile of rubble. miraculously it now seems only eight people died, still, eight is a terrible tragedy. and the scene there that night was something that people will never forget. joining me now is steven boykin, lead pastor for his house ministries in mayfield and a chaplin at the candle factory and one of the first people to arrive after the tornado there hit. pastor, thank you for being with us. know that we're thinking about you and your community this morning. you normally, you communicate with the day side people there mostly, but you were called in special that night because they knew there was a need, correct? >> correct, yes, sir, that's correct. thank you, john, for letting us just talk today and it is so kind of you to say about us being in everyone's thoughts and prayers. it has been a unique couple of days with the amount of tragedy and disaster just being here for a community that is hurting. and just so thankful that you all are covering this.
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because as many people is hurting, we also see this hope of people coming together in this season. the night of the candle factory, the tornado when it hit there and it came through our community, there were just so many heroes that showed up, some had on uniforms and others did not. but when we arrived, it was -- it was certainly a moment i'll never forget. the rain came down and just we walked up, we saw people in all directions, the first person i saw was actually sitting on the ground, he had taken a piece of galvanized pipe and used it as a splint for his leg and certainly just as sure as that happened we moved on and went to the candle factory with some friends that had called. there were another chaplin there as well. and just what we saw was just breathtaking and not in a good way. but at the same time, as much as there was tragedy, there was also people that were sacrificially giving, taking and serving and we climbed amongst
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the rubble and we came up on several people that were still trapped. one person in particular i saw, she was stuck underneath a wall and asked, can you hold my hand and sure enough i was able to get down there as other people were working to remove debris and hold her hand and ask if i could pray with her, and several minutes long we had to take and just continue to help her stay awake and stay with us and, you know, it was a moment when we just felt like the peace of god touched her and as people continue to work all around us, there were so many heroes and i'm so thankful for all of those people. i stepped off for a moment, and as i went down, i felt like maybe there was some other people. i had some guys from our church that had come out as well and had taken and they were helping on another line where people were really in an assembly line trying to get people out and some of my guys actually took and they did pull some people out that are no longer with us. and i walked up on one lady and
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we just prayed together for some folks because it was a tragic moment, a lot of people were weeping and -- but at the same time, just as sure as there was this grief that was coming upon us, there was this courageous moment where people just worked together. i'm thankful for our local first responders, but those that came from outside of our community to help out likewise. so we got there about 9:30, we left about 3:30 in the morning, 4:00 a.m., we got home, just such a significant night to start with. but that was just one place that was affected in our community by this devastation. after that happened, we decided at our church that we were going to be generous and help our community and so we have set up a distribution center and we have some incredible partners, local people came within four hours we had hot meals. this community pulled together. it was incredible.
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people working together to help out. and so we're just now we're working to make a difference. we have got some big partners, mercy chefs and convoy of hope that are here on the ground helping out right now. we're just grateful for that. >> the generosity is on every corner. it is on every block, everywhere you go you see people giving themselves to help. and as we're talking to you, i hear the chainsaws in the background too. those people are heroes as well. >> absolutely. >> the rebuilding is happening before your very eyes. i'm struck by the fact you were there at the beginning, helping to rebuild at that moment, that night. >> yeah. >> you know, in that pile of rubble, you were already rebuilding, not just structures, but spirits. >> absolutely. you know, that's the thing. this is right before christmas. it is devastating. and i think a lot of times we forget the reason for christmas, i think we think about the idea of stuff, but a lot of people
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have lost everything. but they strill have their love ones. it makes you think about what matters in times like this. you want to hold those dear to you close. the family that you love and also i think it is so important that we have examined our values, what is important to us in this season? is it stuff or is there something that we're doing with our lives that leaves a legacy of value for others? and so i think about the christmas story and what i find is hope and what i see in our community is hope, that people are coming together, working together, serving each other. in our church, there has been so much collaboration with different people from other churches, and from other communities, we see diversity. i feel like that's what heaven looks like, it is a diverse place. to any that know that people ha together. we have gone through a pandemic and people are devastated by that. we went from delta to omicron and fear and now in the time like this, we can look at the story of tragedy, where we can look at that hope that there is still hope for us here.
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>> you made me smile because you made me think that as awful as things can look on the ground now in mayfield and different places, in a way it may be what heaven looks like with people coming together and working together to rebuild. it is a different way of imagining it, but it is its own type of perfection that you're part of right now in mayfield. pastor, thank you for being with us. thank you for what you're doing. let us know, please, how we can help and take care of yourself as well because that is important. >> that's very kind. thank you so much. >> sorry. it is so inspiring there and there are so many people like him and everywhere you go, the people are coming together. and the enormity of it is hard to grasp, and you're inclined to think where do i possibly begin, but they're not waiting to figure out where to begin, they're just beginning, they're just doing it and that's what you see there. >> and even the small moments where he said they're working to help get that one woman out of the rubble, and all she wanted was just for someone to hold her hand because you're literally at
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your lowest point, it is such a terrifying moment. i grew up in the south. we had tornadoes a lot. we had a lot of scares too. so sometimes you get so used to the warnings, and the chances that you don't get fully prepared for when it actually happens. >> hard to be prepared for something like this. >> yeah. >> hospitalizations in michigan at a higher point than at any time in the pandemic. we're joined by an er nurse whose heart breaking message is going viral this morning. brand-new reporting on private discussions between joe manchin and president biden. are they close to striking a deal on his build back better bill that he wants passed by the end of the year? how did olay top expensive creams? like this with hydration that beats the $100 cream in every jar of regenerist retinol24 collagen peptide new vitamin c and the iconic red jar can't top this skin shop now at olay.com before nexium 24hr, anna could only imagine a comfortable night's sleep without frequent heartburn waking her up.
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detail what it is like to treat the unvaccinated. writing, quote, i help you take off your coat and feel the cold still clinging to it. my heart sinks because i know this is probably the last night you will feel the outside air on your skin. your family member knows this too. i can tell by the look in her eyes. an indescribable profound sadness. i want to tell her to soak up every single moment that you have lived together, say every word you wish you had ever said and do it quickly. time is running out. the nurse who wrote that post is audrey wendt and she joins me now. thank you for joining us this morning. how long, i wonder, had you been thinking about posting this before you eventually hit publish? >> it has been a few months. it felt like a long time coming. a lot of emotions have been building up, a lot of sadness i had seen in my wonderful co-workers working really hard. i could see it in all of our
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eyes. we were pretty burned down. >> and it is kind of a range of emotions, you say, from being so sad, but also being angry kind of at this situation. >> yeah. yeah. i think that is something new that is happening to healthcare workers is that we never felt this before. we love our community so much. and then to feel like you have this earth shattering secret and that's a lot of people aren't listening and then we see them in our er and our hospitals and we feel so bad for them, and to watch them die, and wish you could help them, it takes a toll. >> of course. and i know this isn't just when you go to work. it is personal for you too on another level because you lost someone in your life recently to covid-19 who wasn't vaccinated. and was this someone you encouraged to get the vaccine and what can you really tell us about this? >> yeah. my beloved uncle john, yeah, he
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was -- he died yesterday. and he was a really great person. our last conversation we had, one of the last ones we were playing cards, and i was telling him that what i'm seeing in my er now is horrible and tragic and to believe me and to get vaccine, and he was thinking about it, but two weeks later he had contact with someone who was also not vaccinated and he got sick and he did die yesterday. >> he had been thinking about getting vaccinated. what can you tell us? what was he like? >> uncle john, he was happy go lucky guy. one of the best. so fun. my kids loved him. he loved fishing. he was a really good person. no health problems. he was -- he really took care of himself. and he thought that he might not
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need it because he never got sick. that's what he said. and he didn't ever get sick. and except for this time. and, yeah. it was hard. >> i heard that from a lot of people too say they don't think they need it, they have been healthy all their lives and, of course, this is a disease and a virus that a lot of people don't know much about, and did he tell you that he wished he had gotten it at any point? >> one of our final conversations we had over zoom, because we couldn't be with him, was he said, audrey, i don't -- i don't think i can do this again. the nurse here is telling me that i won't be able to survive the next time. so i'm definitely going to get it when i get out of here and get done with this. i told him, yeah, we'll do that, but we didn't know. i had a bad feeling because i had seen it in so many of my patients. >> i'm so sorry that one of
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those final conversations that you had to be on zoom because of something like this. i know even though you encouraged him and he hadn't gotten vaccinated, that doesn't make it any less painful for you or for anyone else who has experienced this. >> yeah. yeah. and i just -- i think that -- i really want our community to know that i'm just like a regular person, just a regular nurse, and what i'm seeing is something i've never seen before and my co-workers are working so hard. we have never seen anything like this before. but as a nation, we can come together. we persevere when we need to. and your healthcare community, we are carrying you on our backs and regardless of your choices, your lifestyle, your beliefs, we will continue to carry you and we beg for people to get vaccinated and to get the booster. but if you choose to not, we still will carry you and our
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legs are growing tired, and we beg for your help, but we still will carry you and we rise, we always rise, our healthcare community has shown it in history. and we step up and we will continue to step up until this race is over. until this horrible journey, this horrible nightmare is over. >> well, audrey, i want to tell you you're not just a regular nurse. we're very grateful for your work and you are clearly tireless and i know that this has been really challenging, so thank you. and thank you to your co-workers who have continued to go to work and to treat people and to just do your jobs during this very, very painful pandemic. >> thank you. thanks for having me. >> thanks, audrey. and here's what else to do watch today.
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it is time for the good stuff. north carolina nurse maya is providing diapers and other supplies for those struggling to make ends meet. she knows what it is like to be a single mother during the holiday season. >> we have moms choosing between food versus diapers or having to bill pay versus necessities for the baby. i've been in that position myself at one point in my life. >> good for her. all right, everyone. cnn's coverage continues right now. good morning. i'm erica hill. >> i'm jim sciutto. minutes from now the house rules committee will begin debate ahead of a full house vote on former white house chief of staff mark meadows contempt of congress charge. this, the final step before sending a criminal referral to the justice department. this follows meadows abrupt

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