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two big wins for the president. he signs the bipartisan infrastructure bill into law and advances his top domestic priority. >> the build back better bill is passed! >> but now comes the harder part. winning over senator joe manchin. >> still looking at everything. >> not guilty. plus, a jury acquits kyle
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rittenhouse and conservatives make him a folk hero. >> kyle rittenhouse is an innocent man and the hell that he went through because of the slander and liable from the left. >> white men feel they have the right to enforce the law themselves. and covid cases spike ahead of thanksgiving. how rough of a winter is the u.s. in for. >> we're about to go yet again over 100,000 new cases a day. we're starting to see now the beginning of that winter wave. >> "inside politics" the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters now. welcome to "inside politics sunday" i'm kaitlyn collins in for abby phillip. president biden turned 79 yesterday. congress gave him two early birthday gifts. the bipartisan group of lawmakers celebrated behind him after signing the bill into law.
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>> this bill is monumental. it's historic. it's transformative. it's bigger than anything we've ever done. we have a lot to be thankful for this thanksgiving and i want to express my gratitude for president joe biden. >> it includes half a trillion dollars to fight climate change, universal pre-k, paid family leave, extension of the child tax credit expanded medicare, hundreds of billions of dollars for affordable housing and much more. republicans say it's socialism. >> speaker pelosi has crammed even more radical policies into a partisan bill that costs trillions in dollars we don't have. for government-run programs that nobody wants. it's a pathway to socialism. >> but if biden gets the bill through the senate, he will be
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the president who got decades worth of democratic priorities over the finish line. that was a big if. winning over joe manchin could be more difficult. joining me with their reporting and insights, "the new york times" and heather kagle. obviously this was a very big week for president biden. what is the mood inside the white house? >> they're happy but obviously aware of the house ahead. particularly in the senate. those challenges are significant. we talked about senator joe manchin and the obstacle that he poses to getting this across the finish line. he has expressed a number of concerns about the legislation the house passed. he also has complained about the tax credits for electric vehicles that are in that legislation. there are procedural issues as well. immigration can be topped out.
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there are concerns about the state and local tax deduction, giving a tax break to the wealthy. so you have a very difficult balancing act by the white house that they have to do over the next couple of weeks. get manchin in line, accommodate his needs. senator kyrsten cinsinema is no yet on board. she's making it clear she's going to have her own demands? >> i mean, look. when it comes to those two, you've seen even in recent weeks the president get more involved in some of the negotiations, not just sending some of his closest advisers to congress but bringing them to the white house, bringing them to delaware as well. remember, there's a two-track strategy here. it's not just continuing to focus on legislation still pending. you need to sell infrastructure, too. you need to start selling some
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of these legislative packages that have been associated with congressional gridlock and talking to white house officials, caitlyn, it seems like they're focused on trying to translate the scrawling packages that are confusing for voters and turning it into what it means in terms of jobs and the economy so that for the person who's concerned about the rise in price at their grocery store, they can see this as a solution. can the president do that and be that effective? we'll see. >> part of the problem is we don't actually know what the final bill is going to look like. we know what the house passed, but the senate version can look different. we heard alexandria ocasio-cortez is saying if those promises don't follow through, it will be very, very difficult for them to get votes on anything moving forward. she said the trust that was lr so delegate will be broken. what dampens turnout is when democrats make promises they
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can't keep. what the house does was a big deal. it was the easiest of the hard things. what you said, joe manchin wants to strip a lot out of this bill. kyrsten sinema has a lot of ideas. the senate parliamentarian has their own ideas. this will look different when it comes back in january or whenever when it comes back. pelosi has a three vote margin. there's a lot of questions about how they will get there and what they can do to appease these progressives and these moderates who are uncomfortable with things that they'll be losing in the senate. >> the white house is saying the bill is not going to make inflation worse. that's a concern from senator joe manchin about more federal spending at a time when there is inflation. the white house is trying to tamp down the criticism. >> hers here's what one of the agencies said, and i quote, the
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bills do not add inflation pressures. let me repeat that, do not add inflation pressures. >> economists will say this will help reduce inflation, address inflation over the long term. >> the message is if you care about inflation, pass the build back better act. >> that message breaking through not just with joe manchin but voters with what they're worried about being paid. >> that's a hard message for people going to the grocery stores and seeing it go up and the higher cost of gas and it's hard to explain that all of these various pieces of this bill is going to make it better when people don't necessarily connect the dots between child care or the fact that people will be able to send their kids to pre-k for free and inflation. some of the most popular parts of the bill don't have that inflation component. economists say this and that. it's harder for the average american to see how this exact bill is going to help them and help their pocketbooks. they see other parts that are
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popular and are going to help them making sure they have money for child care tax credit. a lot of concerns we have is because we've pumped so much money in. it's hard for the white house and officials who are supporting this bill to counter that. people are seeing those prices go up and inflation is at a 30-year high. >> what messaging is the white house using when it comes to joe manchin specifically who makes it clear this is a concern he's going to use. when he goes to the gas station, people say are you as mad as we are about this? he says, yes. >> to that concern right there, you have noticed, remember when we first started to hear these packages introduced. they would say the climate change, sweeping proposals, racial equity. just in that clip alone you're seeing them tap into, no, no, no, we understand. this is inflation. this will combat inflation, create jobs. when it comes to certain
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provisions that they see might have bipartisan appeal. one example of something that we can talk a lot about is medicare negotiating down prescription drug prices. they see that as something that can appeal to the bipartisan base in a way that can appeal to the suburban white voter, that can appeal to the rural voter as well. doing things like that they're hoping can start to sway someone like joe manchin. >> the president has sold this as a boost for the middle class. that is what they have talked about time and time again but there is a provision having some issues with senator bernie sanders, that is the state and local tax deduction which the white house says is necessary because they need to get the moderate democrats who say it must be included on board. senator bernie sanders does not agree. >> i think it's bad politics, it's bad policy. democrats correctly have campaigned on the understanding
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that amidst massive income, wealth and inequality, we have to demand that they pay their fair share. >> is bernie sanders right? >> it's tough messaging for democrats. when this bill does go over to the senate you're going to see senators such as bernie sanders and others try to lower the cap that the house dramatically raised from that 2017 tax law and how much of your state and local tax numbers you can deduct. this is the reality of such narrow majorities in the house and senate. you have to get almost everyone happy to be on board. the white house was very tepid all along when you asked them about the salt deduction when we asked them about it. it's not in his plan, but if that's what you need to get it through congress, then sure. we'll deal with it. it is what they needed at least from the house. you had a bunch of democrats from the very expensive high cost of living northeast area saying we needed to get this done.
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the big question is if it does get adjusted notably in the senate, do the tom swazeys's and josh gottheimer's stay on board? >> the white house is not saying whether they support the increase. the first day of thanksgiving air travel has broken pandemic levels but could the u.s. be heading towards another winter wave?
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some of the deadliest months of the pandemic were last winter as the weather was getting colder, people were going indoors and vaccines weren't yet widely available. public health experts are hoping that this winter will be different and here's why. you see, nearly 60% of the country is fully vaccinated now
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at this point. about 69.2% are partially vaccinated and the white house says half a million people are getting a shot every single day. the fda and cdc have just approved booster shots to give people more protection ahead of the holidays. there is reason for concern. if you look at the u.s. there are states where people are going indoors and it's getting colder and cases are rising. in the northeast you can see the states turning orange. some borderline red here. this comes as we were still having about 1,000 deaths a day. health experts in the u.s. and inside the white house and federal government watching europe seeing what's happening in austria. with the seven day average skyr skyrocketing. this is leading to new restrictions. you cannot ride public transit unless you've been vaccinated, had covid-19 or tested negative. in austria a 10-day lockdown and
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mandatory vaccination is happening. >> translator: we have decided now to initiate a nationwide compulsory vaccination very quickly. this is plant to apply starting february 1st, 2022. sustainably increasing vaccination rates, i think we are all agreed on this, is our only way to get out of this vicious circle of virus waves and lockdown discussions once and for all. >> dr. randy is joining us now. an e.r. doctor in providence, rhode island. thank you for getting up with us this morning. as you saw the numbers in europe, do you think that is a warning sign for what is potentially to come in the united states? >> i do think it is a warning sign, caitlyn. i and other public health experts have been seeing for months as we start going indoors in northern states we are going to see surges, particularly in those states with lower
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vaccination rates that are similar to what was experienced in the south this summer. i think we are heading for higher cases, higher hospitalizations butcaveat. it is still going to be different from last winter. even in the states with the lowest vaccination rates, those who are vaccinated are more protected. the worst surges should be better than what we had in the horrible winter of 2020 and 2021. >> in rhode island, your cases doubled. you were just talking about those that aren't well vaccinated. 72% in rhode island is fully vaccinated including 83% of adults. you mentioned you've been working in the e.r. this weekend. what are you seeing? >> so the good news is i did spend the weekend working in my emergency department and over my two shifts i admitted not a single critically ill covid
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patient. the patients that were admitted over the weekend were entirely unvaccinated. those vaccines work to protect our most vulnerable citizens. might we see a surge in a couple of weeks? we know there's always a delay between cases and hospitalizations? it's possible. i'm hopeful although cases are going up we are going to avoid the overwhelming need for hospitals, triage hospitals. the er is at a breaking point for other reasons. ers are just overwhelmed with patients who are sick, with other things that they put off, unfortunately, during the covid pandemic. >> yeah. that comes on the heels of these concerns about waning immunity and what that looks like for the broader united states. the fda and cdc have just approved booster shots for all adults six months after their second shot. this does fulfill a pledge president biden made in august. just because people can get booster shots, does that mean that they should?
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>> so here's who absolutely should get a booster shot. it is folks who are older, aged 50 or 60 and up and people who are immunosuppressed who are taking any host of medications that make your immune system a little bit less effective. those are people who should be running out and getting the booster shot. for the rest of us, what does a booster do? it saves us from having to make daze missed days of work. break through cases are less transmissible. there are plenty of doses available. it doesn't hurt for most of us to go out and get them. it's mostly those who are immunosuppressed. >> we know the white house is trying to clear messaging when it comes to booster shots. i want to ask you about this new study last week that came out from the kaz ser family foundation. it found the political party you belong to is the biggest predictor of whether or not you're vaccinated. saying 68% of democrats say
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they've gotten or are very likely to get the flu shot. only 44% of republicans have said the same. the flu is one thing. are you concerned about the partisan split when it comes to vaccine carrying over to measles, mumps, maybe hepatitis? >> i am tremendously concerned. as a physician who's been in the emergency department for almost 20 years at this point, i see what vaccines do to protect us. i've seen what happens when people come who have not been vacc vaccinated. measles, whooping cough, many other diseases that have been largely disappeared from the u.s. thanks to universal vaccination of kids. vaccines, like most of health, i think, should not be a political issue. what really makes me upset is not the individuals who are afraid about vaccines but it's the purveyors of misinformation, disinformation and lies who are using this political moment to make themselves money or get
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themselves attention. they are hurting people by spreading untruths about vaccines and by dividing us according to political lines. >> there are disagreements to that. we are coming up on thanksgiving. i coulcould -- do want to ask y about thanksgiving. a lot of people are vaccinated. what's your advice for people who want to celebrate thanksgiving and get back to the normal holiday celebration. >> let me tell you what i am doing. i am getting together with multiple different parts of my family. my parents who are a little older and have been boosted, aunts and uncle, my kids are in school full time. a bunch of us are out working.
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>> a lot of people thinking about ventilation. open windows, air filters. maybe even considering taking a celebration outside. if you have a high number of unvaccinated people or if you have a lot of people getting together for the holidays. >> those are all good tips. dr. rainy, thank you for joining us this morning. we hope you have a good thanksgiving. >> thank you. you, too, caitlyn. conservatives are celebrating kyle rittenhouse's acquittal.
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a not guilty verdict in a wisconsin courtroom became the latest flash point. a jury acquitted kyle rittenhouse after he was accused of shooting two people in kenosha. the left labeled it a failure. vice president kamala harris called the verdict, quote, disappointing. >> the verdict really speaks for itself. as many of you know, i've worked to make the criminal justice system more equitable and clearly there is a lot more work to do. >> kyle rittenhouse in a tucker carlson produced documentary said he acted in self-defense. >> the jury reached the correct verdict, self-defense is not illegal. and i believe they came to the
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correct verdict and i'm glad that everything went well. >> talu, you're writing a book on george floyd's life. there are critical instances. as you watched this and as this is the eyes of the nation that watched the trial, what did you take away mr. it? >> there was a period over last summer where we started to think the country was going to come together on issues of violence, justice, criminal justice after george floyd's death. it did seem like people of all different persuasions and political backgrounds were coming on the street deciding they were not going to stand for what happened to george floyd. we quickly saw the backlash to that. now twee see people like kyle rittenhouse involved in one of the protests as sort of a vigilante in a way and said he ended up having to use self-defense. we are seeing him become on the right.
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embracing that ethos and the mccloss ski's becoming criminals in the republican party and speakers at the republican convention in part because there is this bloody that the black lives matter movement has gone too far. now that is really showing how far apart we are as a country at a time last summer we thought maybe we would be able to come together over these issues. we're very far from that now. >> it's been a complete embrace from conservatives and on the right. not just former president trump but several other lawmakers as well. >> it was a great decision. i was surprised it had to go this far. somebody should have ended it earlier. >> it was a good day for freedom. a good day for the process. a good day for america. >> kyle rittenhouse is not guilty.
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>> looking at this case and try and relate it to gun rights. try and relate it to limiting the trial to self-defense even though we talked about legal experts, grassroots organizations, people that have been monitoring this trial, they would say this case also did expose some fault lines in the self-defense argument and what it means to defend yourself, who has the privilege to defend yourself when who we see as a threat in this country is in part shaped by race as well. look, it's also going to raise questions for the biden administration. as we were saying, there was momentum building up, especially after last summer, for things like police accountability but also for gun reform and those are issues that have been side lined as this administration has focused on the social spending package as well as infrastructure as well. there will be questions after these cases as well of what is
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the administration going to do to make it harder to purchase a semi-automatic rifle that somebody can go to a protest or what have you and just carry out in public. >> people are watching president biden's reaction to this closely because you saw from progressive democrats like cory bush who were very upset about this. this was president biden's initial reaction when he was asked about the verdict. >> i stand by what the jury has concluded. the jury system works and we have to abide by it. >> so that's what he told reporters. the white house did later issue a written statement. while the verdict will leave many americans feeling angry and confused, myself included, we have to acknowledge the jury has spoken. >> in the written statement particularly you see how carefully the white house is trying to appeal to everyone in this debate. you're trying to first of all and what you saw with his immediate reaction, he's
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acknowledging, look, we have a jury system in this country. we have to respect the outcome of the jury. he's tapping and sympathizing with the many people who are outraged by the verdict saying he is angry and concerned. do you see how careful he was trying to be with his rhetoric here because this white house, this president knows how much rhetoric matters. president trump inflamed so much of this through his tone and rhetoric. >> what are you hearing on the hill, heather? there were efforts that had a lot of momentum from democrats. that seems to have completely all but faded essentially. is this something that's breathing new life into that or what are you hearing from lawmakers? >> no, the opposite. this shows how polarized how the country is. if congress was going to get anything done on police reform, it would have been last year. the talks fizzled and then they came back this summer after the
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conviction of derek chauvin and george floyd's murder but, again, they struggled to get somewhere. then in september both coory booker and tim scott who were the main negotiators walked away. that was after democrats gave up a lot on the policies they had been demanding including changes to qualified immunity. so i think this and how the right has been mobilized shows more than ever that republicans will not want to wade into this debate. >> van jones did a notable job of connecting everything we're seeing on a national level in the wake of the rittenhouse verdict. >> we've got a pattern there where white men feel that they have the right to enforce the law themselves. when you look at ahmaud arbery, when you look at this case, when you look at trayvon martin, when you look at the white mob that attacked the capitol, that somehow there is a group of people that think that they have the right to take the law into
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their own hands. that is a big problem. >> does he have a point? >> there is an important point there especially when it comes to the politics of this. the biden administration is putting a lot of money into social issues and into making sure people have enough money to pay their bills, take care of their families, but there is also the social issue of is my family going to be able to be alive? is my family going to be able to be safe? are we going to be equal? that's something with the biden administration's agenda really being focused on infrastructure, economic policy and not having as much cache when it comes to things like voting rights, police reform, it makes it harder for biden who benefitted from a lot of black voters to go to those voters and say, i dealt with those voters. i made sure your family feels safe and secure and feels equal. that is an issue when we see these cases and acquit tals, they say things are getting better. >> there are a lot of trials
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for eight hours and 32 minutes on thursday night, kevin mccarthy stood on the house floor and delivered a wide ranging street railing against democratic policies saying he wished he was there to knock down the berlin mall, wished he owned a tesla and where baby carrots came from. >> this is the single most irresponsible spending bill. we cannot become a socialist country. schoolhouse rock, didn't you love that? conjunction, judnction, what's your function? or the preample. we the people in order to 230r78 a more perfect union. my favorite is i'm just a bill on capitol hill. >> that speech to rally the republican party and burn fish his own bid to be speaker of the house if republicans do gain control. some of his party are discussing an alternative.
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>> i would love to see the gavel go from nancy pelosi to donald trump. she would go from tearing up a speech to having to give the gavel to donald trump? oh, she would go crazy. >> obviously he had eight hours and 32 minutes to fill that's why that speech was so wide ranging. it did have a real attempt at the heart of it, which was to rally the party around him. he wants to be speaker of the house next year. this idea of trump being floated seems pretty unlikely. >> it seems a little ridiculous just to be clear. so leaders in the house have used their so-called magic minute at times to really rally their own party behind them. you have john boehner's speech in 2009. speaker pelosi's eight hour speech on dreamers a couple of years ago and now mccarthy has broken that record. there is that effect of energizing your conference behind you when you are a lead jr. and you do that. it comes at a point when
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mccarthy needed to get his house together. they were besieged with congressman gosar and a lot of internal conflicts. this is a chance for kevin mccarthy, even in his own meandering way, to bring the party together at least for the moment. >> what does this mean for gosar? even after he tweeted out that video and he retweeted it after he had been censured by the house. what does his standing in the party look like now? >> i think there are a lot of republicans who are frankly uncomfortable with paul gosar. he has ties with white nationalism. the interesting thing this week is mccarthy was mostly able to keep republicans together on this. only the two that we've seen be very outspoken, liz cheney and adam kin singer voted to support the censure. that was a big moment because he was able to unite these two
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factions of his party. he did say on thursday that he expected to reinstate paul gosar as well as marjorie taylor green. he is playing both sides of the fences here trying to appease centrists by letting them vote on the infrastructure bill and then also saying but these more controversial members, i will give you plumb committee spots if i'm speaker. >> it does show just how mainstream just how in the mainstream the right wing gop, the house gop is in embracing some of that violent language and at times extremist views. just the fact that you have kevin mccarthy around who is very conscious, you can tell, of the fact that they could retake the majority in the mid term going forward. he wants that leadership position and you're seeing an appeal to not just moderates but also folks on the far right that embrace the fringe views. what that means going forward,
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whether or not we continue to see a normalization and a real embrace and honestly acceptance of some of those views, there's a question of that's the future of the house gop at this point. >> what is the future of the house gop? not even the house gop, just the gop generally. you saw ron desantis signed a bill in brandon, florida. brandon has been this code, let's go, brandon. this vulgar code for something about president biden. you saw the conservative conference cpac banning big bird from their conference, disinviting him because of the whole vaccine push from them. what is the future of the republican party? what are they running on? what is this looking like for them? >> this is a party that has been completely molded in the mold of donald trump. he has been known to be sort of antivaccine, free of choice, not inviting mandates. he has been known to embrace the vulgar language and, you know,
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we talked about whether or not he should get the gavel for leading the house. he may not need it. he may be able to show that he has the control of the house. he has the control of people like leader mccarthy who spent eight hours speaking and got a favorable statement from the former president while mitch mcconnell on the other side of the aisle gets all kinds of mean, nasty grams from trump. so this is a trump party that's the party very much embracing his mold of politics and has left an open lane for him as he runs for president. >> and trump who had been unhappy with mccarthy was very happy after the eight hours and 32 minutes. up next, president biden's first physical marked another historic first. and the president pardoned his first thanksgiving turkeys. how did he stack up in the presidential puns department. >> peanut butter and jelly were selected based on their temperament, appearance and i suspect vaccination status.
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on friday, president biden had his first physical since taking office and for the 85 minutes that he was under anesthesia for his colonoscopy there was another much more historic first. >> he will temporarily transfer power to vice president harris. interesting historical note here, the first woman in history with presidential power.
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>> heather, obviously this was temporary, just 85 minutes but it was still significant and the first time we've seen a woman have the power of the presidential duties even if it was for 85 minutes. what do you think this meant? >> i think on friday, regardless of your political leanings, everyone can stop and take a pause and be like well, that's cool we finally broke those barriers and i as a woman thought to myself, this country is 245 years old and we finally just broke those barriers. so it was a little bit of a mixed bag. i do think she was probably happy for the headlines after a slew of negative ones. >> yes, people pointed out on international men's day no less. you're right, this comes amid headlines about her job and some tensions between her office and the west wing. she was asked about this on "good morning america" if she feels like she's misused in her portfolio. >> even your close friends and allies, lieutenant governor of california kounalakis expressed
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frustration because they think you can be more helpful than you've asked to be. do you share that u.s. ifrustra? >> this was a good week. when gwe got the infrastructure act signed by the president it makes the statement about all the hard work that has gone into it month after month after month. we're getting things done and doing it together. >> you don't feel misused or underused? >> no, i don't. i am very, very excited about the work that we have accomplished but i am also absolutely, absolutely clear eyed that there is a lot more to do and we're going to get it done. >> is that what you're hearing from people inside the white house, that that's how she views her portfolio? >> when you that yalk to the vp camp and white house she's focused on the crucial issues going overseas. she's a crucial part they say, of the administration's planner some of the packages.
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you talk to her early supporters like i have, donors and backers for her over the campaign or presidential campaign as well, there's definitely concern she has been tasked not just with agenda items crucial to the administration but rather items that cannot really have a political return for her future at this point. that's throughout really the time of this administration starting with her first trip to central america where the headline coming back was an interview with lester holt, she talks about whether or not she's going to visit to the border and has the europe comment, the do not come comment as well. with her camp, she's overseas doing the productive trips to southeast asia, to paris as well to try to mend that diplomatic relationship with france but there is concern when you talk to early supporters she is not set up with the agenda item that can get that political return going forward. >> this comes as you see another democratic rising star, the transportation secretary pete buttigieg really have a big platform, with this infrastructure bill that's been passed and now working on the
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implementation and "the washington post" had a headline this week saying he's been handed billions of dollars, gained influence with the opportunity to shape national infrastructure priorities. sop how do you see these two together? >> talk about being handed a portfolio that's good and something you can promote. he's been traveling all over the country already promoting this popular infrastructure law and continue to do so. what he gets to do within the department of transportation is crucial because a lot of things, he gets a lot of money, a lot of grants and one of the missions is to promote racial equity in how transportation is built and he was talking about that when he made his appearance on the white house briefing room. it is in terms of policy quite the contrast with what you see with vice president harris, because she gets the very difficult issues that don't have an immediate answer, such as the issues on the border, the root causes of migration, such as voting rights, which is something she asked for but a difficult issue. >> obviously way too early to be talking about 2024 but i'll talk about it anyways. >> let's do it. >> these two are candidates that are competing behind the scenes
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in a way for the stewardship of the party going forward. we had a couple of our colleagues report joe biden the president has been talking about running go enin 2024 but there's questions whether he's going to run. he did have his medical checkup over the past few days and it shows that he is vigorous and healthy and all of the buzzwords you normally hear from the medical doctors but he is 79 years old. if he runs for office he'd be the oldest person running for a second term and a lot of questions whether he'd be up to it and might want to be the transitional figure and hand the baton over to another democrat. will that be his vice president with the tough portfolio or maybe his transportation secretary, who has been given this very nice portfolio to go around the country, talking about the various things that biden is doing and talk about the bipartisanship that the country has been looking for and didn't have under the past president, what he campaigned for when he was running for president and now has an opportunity to sort of campaign in a way going across the country to support this bill. >> he gets that platform but
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