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♪ well, good morning to you. welcome to your "new day." i'm christi paul. >> good morning, christi. i'm boris sanchez. following his acquittal, we're now hearing from kyle rittenhouse. the reaction from all sides and what could happen next. and more than 100 million people, adults are now eligible for booster shots. what health experts say that means for upcoming holidays.
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and the president's build back better plan, but a makeover of that plan looms in the senate. what's actually going to stay in that legislation and get it passed? and where is peng shuai, the disappearing story of one of china's biggest tennis stars. ♪ so, saturday, november 20th. how did we get to november 20th, boris? just flying by. good morning to you. >> it is just flying by. thank you for waking up with us. always a pleasure to be with you, christi. we start with the reaction after a jury in kenosha, wisconsin, found kyle rittenhouse not guilty in the shooting deaths of two people. >> this is the scene outside of
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the barclays center in new york, where hundreds gathered to protest the verdict. just one of several demonstrations across the united states. this group specifically marched from brooklyn to manhattan and shut down the brooklyn bridge before ultimately disbursing. >> and police thwarted a riot in portland, as well as protesters starting breaking down doors. protesters threw objects at officers. the demonstration came hours after a jury acquitted rittenhouse of all of the charges against him including homicide. >> we the jury find the defendant child rittenhouse not guilty. >> tduring the trial, rittenhoue took the stand. we're hearing from rittenhouse himself. >> the jury reached the correct
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verdict, that self-defense is not illegal. it's been a long journey but we made it through it. >> cnn's natasha chen is live this hour. talk to us specifically about the reaction there? >> reporter: yeah, christi and boris, good morning, it's been relatively calm in kenosha, compared to the scenes you just showed in other parts of the country. no marching, no rioting. around the courthouse after the verdict was read, there are some celebratory shouts from people supporting rittenhouse and reaction from the people that he killed. here is the family of anthony huber, joseph rosenbaum, their partners, talking about what this verdict meant to them. >> i don't think that any of us who were directly involved on what happened on august 25th are really that surprised. we know that this system is a
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failure. >> if one person's lives, two persons' lives don't matter, none of our cases matter. in this case, it feels like the victims' lives don't matter and i don't think that's acceptable. >> reporter: the person we didn't see after the verdict was kyle rittenhouse himself. the clip that you aired was part of the tucker carlson show aired last night. his attorney told us that kyle rittenhouse has just wanted to get on with his life. would probably move away from this area. we saw as the verdict was being read in the courtroom that rittenhouse and his family really broke down. very emotional about that not guilty result. his defense attorney talked to us yesterday about the important decision they made putting him on the stand. interestingly, he told us that they used two mock juries, once practicing with kittenhouse
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testifying, once without. he said, the difference was significant. that's why he had to take the stand. the press around that press conference also asked him about any possible regrets that rittenhouse may have had. chris cuomo on cnn last night pressed him harder on that issue. here's what he said. >> he didn't want to kill anybody. and he was left with the terrible choice, and he exercised that choice, which was found to be lawful. >> does he think he did anything wrong? >> legally? no. >> morally. >> he wishes he didn't have to do it. >> reporter: a really emotional result for all parties involved. a jury that deliberated about 25, 26 hours, definitely, mark richards said causing concern for the defense team.
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but ultimately, of course, they are pleased with how this turned out. christi and boris. >> natasha chen from kenosha, wisconsin, thank you so much. let's get perspective from legal analyst joey jackson also a criminal defense attorney. joey, appreciate having your perspective. natasha noted the pivotal moment in the trial. rittenhouse testifying in his own defense. i want you to listen to what his attorney said about that decision specifically. >> had to put him on, it wasn't a close call. in wisconsin if you don't put a client on the stand you're going to lose, period. >> i'm curious to get your reaction to that, joey. did his testimony ultimately help his case? it seems like it did. >> yeah, boris, good morning to you. so what happens is when jurors sit in judgment, there are always two narratives, right? there's the prosecution's narrative with respect to what they say happened and then there's the defense narrative. who would be more helpful to
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establish that narrative than the defendant himself. the problem is, when you put a defendant on the stand, you expose them to so much contribution, that's called cross-examination, when they have to answer tough questions and get pinned down in inconsistencies. in this particular case, i think there were two things that were of real significance to the defense attorneys. one was the mock juries that they did, went through the case without him testifying. and the other when he did testify. they thought that moved the needle. remember, boris, there was a lot of speaking about whether or not tears, lack of tears, was he genuine, was he not. but i think they prepped him very well. they were able to get out through him what he was thinking and feeling and thinking. when there's a self-defense case, critical to that thinking is what your intent was, what your state of mind was, were you in immediate seriously bodily threat.
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and did how did he perceive the environment. i think he was able to go through that and with respect to being crossed by the prosecutor, i don't think much headway was made in that regard so it turned out to be a good decision. >> notably in wisconsin, the burden of proof is especially high when you're a defendant claiming self-defense, right? i am wondering in your mind if this would have a different outcome in a different state. >> you know, boris, there are a couple things to consider. the first is the jurisdiction that it takes place in, right? because it matters differently. in different states as we know if we extend this discussion more broadly, some states are more conservative. some states are more liberal. some states you have death penalties, some states you have tough gun laws, others don't. what am i saying? i'm saying the views in different communities are vastly different. number two, now, it gets down to
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who's on that jury, who you select. remember, boris, the process requires that attorneys really interview jurors, they do so in an in-depth way and they impanel jurors that they feel are appropriate to the cases. so, you do not have an audience that is respective to your message, you're going to get a result that is adverse to really what you believe it should be. so the answer to your question, yes, that could very well be probable. it depends on how people view and digest the evidence. last point and that's this, this is a case that sparks emotions. you have competing issues. should he have been there in the first place? he's 17 years old. you're not a cop or emergency medical position. why are you carrying a achlt 15, why are you there in that set of circumstances, stay home. well that's not the issue, the issue is he did come and
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therefore has a right to defend himself under an environment which is so chaotic that the defense did a great job in establishing, he had a right to protect himself. those are the two narratives that came together. and the jurors felt the narratives of the defense was more compelling. >> looking to the future, the family of anthony huber killed by rittenhouse they say there's no accountability for his death. there are questions whether they will potentially file a civil lawsuit. do you think he's open to civil liability and given that the burden of proof is lower in civil cases what might that prosecution look like? >> yeah, so great point to be made here, boris. so there's a distinction, right. there's not any double jeopardy bar. we hear about this notion of double jeopardy, what does that mean, you can't be tried for the same case twice. but a civil case doesn't indicate double jeopardy. you can be tried in civil court, even though you've had your day
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in criminal court. to your point, different standards, it means because it's your liberty, the bar is high, beyond a reasonable doubt. you don't want people going to jail we don't think are reasonably and responsibly guilty for what they did beyond a reasonable doubt. in civil cases because it involves money and monetary issues, the bar is lower. preponderance of the evidence. that means, is it probably the fact that you engaged in wrongdoing as conduct and were responsible for these wrongful deaths. so because of that different bar, yes, he can be tried civilly for wrongful death. and the probabilities in civil court would be far more likely there would be some liability there than in criminal court. if the families want to go that way they can, you have to think whether people ultimately have the resources to pay it out. since it's about money in civil court, how much money does the person have or can we collect,
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but there's a broader message, even if you don't have any, we want to hold you accountable and that certainly is a probability moving forward. >> we will be watching to see if the family of huber and others ultimately file lawsuits civilly against kyle rittenhouse. joey jackson, appreciate the perspective, my friend. thanks for getting up el for us. >> thank you, boris. 114 million american adults are eligible for covid-19 booster shots, cdc director rochelle walensky signed off on the shot yesterday afternoon. authorizing the dose for moderna and pfizer's vaccine 18 and older. >> there's more good news, u.s. vaccinations were already on the rise. drdz data shows in the past week there's been a 36% boost in vaccinations, in large part, because of young children receiving their doses. that's more than double where the rate was just a month ago. let's talk about the latest development with primary care
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special dr. saju mathew. good to see you this morning. i want to get your reaction. this obviously broadens the scale of people who can get the vaccine, or the booster, who are eligible. so, just to be clear for everybody, you can go get this agency of now? >> yeah, good morning, christi. listen, i'm excited. i'm definitely one of the scientists that says we need to boost everybody. 18 years and older, that's what cdc is now recommending. i would like for the cdc to take a stronger stance and make it a comprehensive recommendation, that if you're 18 and older, everybody must get boostered, regardless of your medical situation. right now, the cdc is just making a little bit of a distinction saying if you're 50 and older, you must. if you're 18 and older, you can. and, you know, the immunity wanes, christi. we know that about pretty much every vaccine. but we're about to hit 100,000 daily cases. and i'm seeing not only the
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elderly having breakthrough cases, but young people as well. and i also worry about the possibility of long covid. even if you get a boost town fection. and definitely get boosted and cut down that transmission. >> a lot of people are concerned about adverse side effects what do we know? >> adverse, pretty much what you can expect from the second thought. injection site, fever and chills. i got it, christi, and i had nothing. everybody is different. but nothing more than you would expect from that second dose. >> so, is this current surge that we're seeing in the upper midwest, i know a lot of people are paying attention to that. some say it's the season, it's autumn, we're coming up on thanksgiving. is it indicative of what you just mentioned, the potency of
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the vaccine. >> you know, with the wave and the line moving up, anybody that's unvaccinated, communities that are unvaccinated, the virus goes there and attacks that community. it's also the reason why, going back to the booster discussion, christi, i think it's really important that people realize that, yes, people are talking about booster shots. that doesn't mean that the vaccine doesn't work. it means we want to make this vaccine even more effective. so for our viewers listening people should not be discouraged by the booster shot. it just means we're going to kick up the immunity from the low 80s to the high 90s, back to where it was, after two shots of moderna or pfizer. >> so when we talk about the waning vaccine, do you see this booster being the first of what will become an annual booster? like flu? >> yes, that's the million dollar question, christi. i think we'll just have to wait and see. this is a pandemic that's going
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on in realtime. we've had vaccines in the history of science where you just get two or three shots and you're done. maybe for ten years. i'm hoping that's where we're headed. but again, if we don't have 60 million people that are not vaccinated to get up our vaccination rates up into the 90s, there's always that possibility of surges and future boosters. >> dr. saju mathew, thank you for getting up early for us and walking us through this. good to see you. >> good to see you and happy thanksgiving. >> you as well. president biden is celebrating today, it's not just his birthday, his spending bill also passed through the house. that celebration, though, may be short lived as the plan how heads to the senate. we'll take you live to capitol hill for an update next. and chinese state media now saying that tennis star peng shuai will make a public appearance soon, after intense international pressure to provide information on her
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president biden is celebrating his 79th birthday today. also celebrating the passage of his build back better plan by house democrats. >> the $1.9 trillion spending plan includes a major expansion of the social safety net, as well as money to address the climate crisis. now, the bill heads to the senate where it faces a lot of challenges and potentially a lot of changes. >> yeah. let's bring in cnn congressional reporter daniella diaz. daniella, what is ahead for this piece of legislation? >> reporter: boris, christi, all eyes are on now senator joe manchin of west virginia. he is really the wildcard here when it comes to this bill in the senate. he is the one, one key swing vote, who will really be the decider of what is included in this bill, and more technically
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what is paired back with his bill. and he wants a smaller price tag, not $1.9 trillion, he's saying between 1 to $1.5 trillion. that's where we'll keep our eye on as weeks progress. senate majority leader chuck schumer has said he wants to pass the bill by christmas. however, of course, senator joe manchin has not offered his assurances to support the bill. why does senator joe manchin matter so much? well, they plan to pass the bill using a process called budget reconciliation. they just need 50 votes in the senate to pass. which means they need all 50 democratic senators to vote for the bill. as of now, it seems that 49 has signed on. we have reporting that kyrsten sinema in the end is going to support this. she was the other wildcard here but senator joe manchin has said he has concerns with the price tag. and he is also concerned that
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this bill will add problems to the country's inflation. of course, rising inflation. rising gas prices. the cost of goods. these are real concerns affected americans. and he does not want to add more problems to what is happening to americans directly. he is worried that this bill will do that. there is, of course, research that says this bill will increase inflation short term. the white house has sash sured it's short term. long term it would expand the social safety net, universal preec pre-k. but the bottom line here is that americans, of course, are worried about what is happening post pandemic. and that is why the biden administration wants to pass this bill. but, of course, it all -- all eyes are on senator joe march ton see what will he does in the next couple of weeks as
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democrats continue to negotiate the bill in the senate. >> daniella diaz, great job of reporting on that for us. thank you so much. we want to get insight on what that means for the president, lynn sweet, washington bureau chief of "the new york times" joins us now. good morning, lynn. >> good morning. >> with the job approval rating in the latest cnn polls, hovering at 44%. 51% disapprove of his job performance thus far. how pivotal will this move -- the movement of this bill be to potentially help those numbers? >> well, i think it all depends on what the senate does. the house victory is nice. very short-lived, overshadowed by the rittenhouse verdict on saturday. and i think the thing to realize here, christi, is that this may not pass the senate at all. not only do you have the joe
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manchin factor but a scrub by the senate parliamentarian. this is going to pass with democrats no republicans are going to be for this so there are multiple hurdles to clear besides joe manchin. and if the parliamentarian says certain things can't come in, that in itself may change the bill so that number -- >> i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt you. >> house members knew it, but they were able to put what they wanted to thought they would pass the muster of the parliamentarian. but we don't have the assurance until the parliamentarian gives the green light on this measure. >> so, that's my question, what is the weight of what's in the bill, the content of the bill, versus the bill passing? in other words, is passage enough to help this president? >> yes, because it will let him
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say he got two things done, mega, historic bills. more or less traditional infrastructure. and the second bill which has also many climate change provisions as well as a safety net, christi. it has things that, yes, republicans will use to criticize president biden. i would think the question is, will the impact of any of this show up soon enough so people can feel it? quick example, the child care tax credit brought real cash into the pockets of a lot of americans. but as you just mentioned didn't make a dent in biden's approval ratings. even saw his ratings go down during this same period. >> okay. >> so, i want to listen to representative alexandria ocasio-cortez as to her reaction as to what's happening with this bill. >> it's not just joe manchin that want to see changes to the bill.
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i think senator sanders wants to see some changes on this bill. i think he wants to cut some of the taxes -- taxes on the rich. i think we need to open up a path to citizenship on the senate side. i think certain changes on the senate side have to be passed in regards to guarding the bill against substantive changes that would attack the change on climate change. >> so her voice her illustrates something bigger than just this bill, it is the unity, or lack of, for the democrats themselves. do you see a space somewhere for progressives and moderate democrats to solidify? >> yes and no. when it comes to senator sanders, he's a budget expert in the end. and you can negotiate on that. this issue that congressman brought up just now, in a passage to citizenship, there's
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a reason that the house bill did not put it in because it just pass the parliamentarian. there are positions in there that allow people in the united states, undocumented, many, not all, to stay with some provisions so they won't have to fear of being deported, christi. but the provision that's in the house bill does not allow for a path to citizenship. if they could have done it, they would have. i think what happens with leaders like -- when leaders have unrealistic expectations, whether you're a progressive or moderate, i don't think it helps the party or helps their cause. have to think of it this way, perhaps, in analysis, is something better than nothing. protections for immigrants and deportation allow freedom of travel, go back to your home country without fear you that can't get back in. that will help many people, not a path to citizenship, just can't do it in this bill at the
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time. >> lynn sweet, your expertise is always appreciated here, thank you, ma'am. >> and thank you. still ahead, chinese state media claims to have proof that tennis star peng shuai is not missing, just hanging out at home. hear when they say heshe'll retn to the pubublic eye, nexext. . [snowball splat and windshield wiper]] the #1 longest-lasting aa battetery. (vo) singing, or speaking. reason, or fun. daring, or thoughtful.
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so the editor-in-chief of a chinese state-run newspaper said that chinese tennis star peng shuai will appear in public soon and, quote, participate in some activities. peng has been missing for nearly three weeks after he accused one of china's most powerful leaders of sexual assault. chinese state media released what they said are new pictures that peng posted on social media. but there's no way of knowing if
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these photos she supposedly posted were actually taken. >> the women's tennis organization is now threatening to pull out of china entirely unless they're reassured that peng is okay. here's cnn's will ripley. >> reporter: tennis in china, a billion dollar business for the wta. ten tournaments, reportedly a third of their revenue. highly lucrative. and for the chinese government, highly prestigious. now, it's all on the line. the wta demanding answers. >> peng shuai. >> reporter: where is tennis icon peng shuai? is she okay. a household name in china, peng has not been seen in public since november 2nd. the 35-year-old doubles grand slam champion accusing china's 75-year-old vice premier of coercing her into having sex about three years ago at his home. chinese state media on propaganda overdrive. seeming lying to silence the
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outcry. the a chinese journalist tweeting these pictures of peng claiming they're from her wechat, saying happy weekend. no direct communication with peng herself. on wednesday, a suspicious email released by a state-own broadcaster adding to fears to her well-being. the email retracts her allegations saying i'm not missing, nor am i unsafe. i've just been resting at home and everything is fine. the wta not convinced. demanding proof peng is safe. a probe into her allegations. the organization's ceo telling "out front" he is prepared to pull out of china, potentially losing a lucrative ten-year deal. >> we have to start as a world making decisions that are based on right and wrong, period. and we can't compromise that, and we're definitely willing to pull our business, and deal with
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all of the complications that come with it because this is certainly bigger than a business. >> reporter: china is a nation long prurun by powerful men. and the silence of the many the me too movement, and china seems to be going to great lengths using the government's immense power to protect the reputation of a retired communist party leader. so far, china's blatant censorship is doing just the opposite. refusing to acknowledge the growing controversy. the wta taking a stand, a huge financial gamble, its regional headquarters is in beijing. the tennis organization willing to walk away from the massive chinese market to stand up for one of its stars. olympics organizers are staying out of it, just weeks before the beijing winter games. peng is a three-time olympian. u.s. president joe biden
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considering a diplomatic boycott but the ioc says experience shows that quiet diplomacy offers the best opportunity to find a solution. >> the nba buckled under the pressure. and here's the wta saying enough is enough. standing up doing what's right. when in the world do we see that anywhere in sports? a major sports league or entity doing the right thing. >> reporter: the wta's bold stance against china winning praise. >> we're at a crossroads, it's time to make the decision that you can't do business when the safety of your players are at risk. >> reporter: for the international tennis community some things are more important than money. the wta said they have tried every means possible to reach peng shuai, whether messaging on
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social media, emailing, nothing. radio silence. so until they can speak to her directly and feel confident that she's okay and not held under duress and kept quiet. and until there's a full investigation of the claims she made, they say they are fully prepared to walk away from china, no matter the cost of their business. christi, boris. >> that's perplexing. will ripley, thank you so much for that. we appreciate it. so, nasa is hoping a telescope can spot aliens or intelligence life on other planets. why the name of their new telescope is trigger something controversy here.
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telecope. jwts for short. it will turn its eyes to distant stars in search of earth-like planets. while scientists are excited about what is to come, they're also divided over the telescope's name. >> with have something new now. it's the woke leading the blind. >> i'm happy to be called woke. >> reporter: at issue, whether or not james webb deserves to have his name on the telescope. webb ran nasa in the '60s and is credited for his role in building the apollo program. but some are calling up webb's tenure during the so-called lavender scare. it started in the 1950s when the u.s. services and didn't do his part to stop it. do you ever think you'll use the name webb and not think about the history behind it? >> yeah, probably not.
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>> reporter: astrophysicist sarah tiguttle who penned the james webb telescope needs to be renamed. >> he was still there when head of security picked up someone from jail and fired him because he had been picked up for being gay. >> reporter: supporters say the history is murky. and those opposed to naming the telescope after him should take another look. >> they're completely wrong. >> reporter: this astrophysicist said after researching history, he found a man of tolerance. >> james webb lauded the intellectual power of an openly gay woman. he used his way to use nasa facilities to desegregate the south. >> reporter: more than 700 people signed a petition asking nasa to change the name to harriet tubman.
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♪ so in july, the ncaa put new rules in place that means the first time ever college athletes can make money off their own name. >> soon after, athletes began signing very lucrative endorsement deals and sponsorships. and some are now using that money to give back, including one of college football's top quarterbacks, coy wire has that story. good morning, coy. >> good morning, christi and boris. sam howell, a junior, he'll be the top quarterback to be taken in the draft if he decides to forego, sam used his name likeness and image to place, and on table for food insecurity, hoping to give back. >> i wanted to make sure it was something i care about to make an impact in the community. that's why i went with table. they're a great organization.
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>> there's a lot of potential benefit to partnering with athletes. i mean, it's potentially a full opportunity for our kids that we're serving to kind of see athletes that are serving them and engaging with them in different ways. and also from an awareness perspective, i think that letting our community and even nation know just that food insecurity does exist. and just the impact of that. it's not just a hungry belly. it's impacts the way they learn and interact with other people, relationships, their self-esteem. and there's other potential health effects as well. >> growing up, they don't always come from the best place, there's a lot of kids food insecure. it hits home. this year in our community, 1 in 3 kids are food insecure. something that no kid should have to go through. >> historically, 1 in 3 children
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were participating in free school meals meaning they might not have enough food on weekend and school breaks. so the pandemic has exacerbated the situation making those free school meals even less available over the past year and a half. we're also engaged in family engagement to impact the families and kids. we hand deliver bags of food directly to their homes. that's 700 plus students that we're visiting every week. >> i want to make sure to do it for the right way, don't do it for selfish reasons. i want to make an impact on my community. >> now, boris and christi, as thanksgiving approaches the fortunate among us think about big smiles and big tables full of food. sadly, that's not the reality for many people out there. so big salute to sam howell and table. >> a great time, to lend a
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