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reported to this group from march 2020 to june of this year. boris and am ora. >> thank you. the next hour of "new day" starts right now. good morning. and welcome to your new day. i'm boris sanchez. >> and i'm am ora walker in for christi paul. the justice department is sending a chilly message to trump allies after indicted steve bannon for defying congress. what it means for trump's inner circle. >> and plus surging price and record inflation and now food banks are struggling to keep their selves stocked and feed those in need. >> i'm very worried. we cannot plateau at this point and especially coming into the winter. >> after weeks of progress, some states are now seeing a rise in covid cases. why health experts are warning of special surges. >> plus some of the victims of the astro world tragedy are
being laid to rest as dozens of new lawsuits are filed against the concert organizers. we'll take you to houston for th e latest. saturday, november 13th, we are grateful for yu waking up with us. amara, great to see you. >> it was tough to wake up. once your awick, all is good and the coffee is in the system. >> apple juice for me. it will change your life. >> and the beef jerky, you just have to tell me which brand to get. >> we'll talk after this. >> for sure. >> but we again with legal trouble for trump ally steve bannon. he's been indicted for criminal contempt for congress. bannon hit with two counts, one for refusing to appear and
another for refusing to hand over documents to congress. >> the committee said that bannon indictment should send a message to other potential witnesses, ignore subpoenas at your own peril. cnn's zachary cohen is part of the team that broke the story. tell us more about the indictment and the charges bannon is now facing. >> reporter: things in a lot of ways got really real for bannon yesterday. we were in the courtroom when the indictment was handed down, two different counts of context of congress. each carries a maximum sentence if convicted of one year in prison. now he was first subpoenaed by the january 6 committee in october and there were a lot of questions as recently as this week as to why attorney general merrick garland has not come down with a decision and why that was not to indict. now that merrick garland has decided that he will face criminal charges the house committee believes that their
subpoena power has new teeth and she should compel other witnesses to turn over information they may not have other wise. >> and walk us through what committee members are trying to get from steve bannon, but not just documents by what information are they looking for. >> for several reasons. they're focused on two lanes. one deals with bannon's communication with trump in the days and weeks leading up to january 6 and potentially on the day itself. now the other they're looking at is bannon's involvement in the willard hotel war room where he and other trump allies watched the riot unfold. there is a lot of questions on both fronts and ultimately remains to be seen if bannon will provide the committee with any answers. yesterday's indictment increases those odds. >> zachary, cohen, thank you so much for that. let's get insight on the legal issues raised by the indictment of steve bannon.
michael zeldin is a host of that said with michael zeldin podcast. good morning to you. >> good morning to you. >> first off talk about this case. is it a slam dunk? what will prosecutors have to prove in this case? >> right. it is not a slam dunk. there is no real slam dunk in federal prosecutions because you never know how the court will rule or juries will decide. but in this case, they have to prove that bannon had no good faith belief in refusing to cooperate. and so bannon has asserted that he didn't cooperate because former trump asserted executive privilege and so he says until such time as a court resolves that question of does the president, the former president, have the right to do that, i'm not able to come. we saw john bolton and done mcgahn do that in the mueller
case. so there is a arguable case that he relied on assertion of privilege by trump and that is the reason that he's doing it. that he isn't in contempt in a gross sense. >> and let's talk about executive privilege because we kaepernick hearing that term and it is been asserted by donald trump several times and his loyalist and other potential witnesses so when it comes to a former adviser like bannon who wasn't officially a government employee at the time leading up to january 6, how much can he hide behind executive privilege. >> that is a great question. the justice department in fights, the fight between the executive branch, they have said that the executive privilege can apply to private citizens. so there is opinions from olc that said it is okay for private
citizens to have executive privilege. we think about that in the so-called kitchen cabinets that many presidents have, clinton had it with vernon jordan and reagan had it with others. but the big problem with bannon is those kitchen cabinet private citizens tend to be giving advice to the president with respect to policy. here bannon seems to be giving political advice to candidate trump and it would seem to me that that makes the assertion of executive privilege much more tenuous. >> so do you see that mark meadows, the former white house chief of staff to have a stronger case and what do you think will happen to him next, especially watching bannon get indicted, do you expect him to comply now with the subpoenas? >> well he does have i think maybe the strongest case because he was the president's chief of staff and that is the person that the president theoretically relies the most on. the question again is what is
the nature of the advice that he was giving the president, was he giving it to president trump about policy related stuff, or was he giving it to candidate trump about political stuff. whether he chooses to come or not is a hard question. i think that he and his lawyer george are going to try to hold out until there is a court decision as best they're able to. >> and obviously trump also trying to use executive privilege as a shield. and we know that he was able to get this temporary injunction, meaning a temporary hold on the national archives handing over these white house documents to the committee on friday. over which the former president trump is claiming executive privilege. it is obviously, trump and his team trying to play this out and delay as long as they can. do you see this being delayed all the way up until after the midterm elections in 2022?
>> well, it is a great question that i don't know the answer to. what we know is that on november 30th there will be oral arguments in the court of appeals regarding the decision of the -- whether to allow the district court's decision ordering the release of these documents to be had. you would expect a decision by the court of appeals in mid-december. then trump will most likely, if he loses, apply to the supreme court for them to take the case. if the supreme court takes the case, then i think we're really running long into the future before we have a decision. months into the future. if he loses in the court of appeals an the supreme court does not take the case, then this should be over by the end of this calendar year, it should be required to submit the documents. >> i see. all right. and how strong is trump's claims of executive privilege to keep those documents confidential? i mean, you when look at past
supreme court decisions, especially that 1977 case regarding nixon and the watergate tapes, the supreme court said that executive privilege is not absolute and that it exists for the benefit of the republic, not any individual. >> that's right. so the nixon versus the general services administration case exactly said what you said, which is that really it is and the presidential records act which was pasted in the post watergate period says that the privilege resides primarily with the current executive. and biden has waved that privilege. trump has a right to his opinion but ultimately the court should rule in my estimation in favor of no privilege because biden and congress need the information or want the information and trump's desire should be overcome by that desire for disclosure.
>> really fascinating topic. thank you so much. >> thank you. it seems like the price of everything is going up with surging inflation and it is really hurting food banks. up next, we'll be joined by the head of the greater chicago food depository to talk about what they're seeing this year. plus another person has died from injures due to the surging crowd at the astro world concert. how could future tragedies be avoided. that conversation is ahead. nk bt if a pair of gogglgles can help your backhand get better yeah! then your bank should help you budget even better. virtual wallet® is so much more than a checking account. its low cash mode℠ feature gives you at least 24 hours of extra time to help you avoid an overdraft fee. you see that? virtual wallet® with low
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rising prices have left one in four people feeling that their standard of living has dropped. nadia romero joined us live from atlanta. and they are seeing some of the biggest spikes in the price of things? >> reporter: it is usually new york or l.a. or san francisco, but this time it's atlanta. far beating the inflation rate of the national average. so the average, the cost of living going up over the last year is about 6.2%. but in atlanta, that index is 7.9%. and when you talk to realtors, they'll tell you they could feel it especially in the housing market. when you look at the cost to buy a house here or even to rent, that has gone up dramatically and you could point to the economic boom here with more companies, a hiring of more people and drawing in more people to move to atlanta. but you could also feel that across the country and here in atlanta at the gas station. when you go to fill up your tanks. so we're looking at more than $3 a gallon which is up almost $2
in atlanta from last year. i mean, look at that. you fill up your tank, you're going to feel it. by the time you're done because you're going to notice a significant difference. especially if you've been budgeting and many families are still recovering after the pandemic. so you could also point to the supply chain impacted by the covid-19 pandemic and now we're seeing that snarl in our supply chain. and georgia's governor, brian kemp, was in savannah, the port talking about a way he believes will alleviate some of the strain that could help with inflation. but he's also placing blame at the white house. listen. >> i mean, look there is a whole other problem with inflation. you need to ask somebody at the white house about that. because everybody i'm talking to, their worried about grass and groceries and everything else that you're buying. an this is unsustainable and they're wanting to spend more money out there. people have got to get realistic with real economics.
>> and so you're hearing politicians talk about the price of goods and inflation and boris you mentioned, there are so many people in america who are concerned, there was a new index that came out for people being asked what do you think about the economy and the future and a quarter of them said they are nervous. and we have the holiday season starting. so for some people it already started if you're an early shopper. for others like me you're waiting. but you're concerned about the price of those goods trying to make sure that you get all of the gifts that you want for the people in your family and if those gifts will arrive on time is causing people a lot of anxiety. boris. >> you have to do your shopping very soon other wise you might miss christmas. thank you so much. ongoing global supply chain disruptions could mean that food banks may be forced to serve fewer people, the greater depository said that demand is near an all-time high. more than 600,000 people there
will experience food insecurity this year but the surging cost of food and decline in donations means that meeting that demand has become more and more challenging. with us now is the ceo of the greater chicago food depository kate mayor. thank you for sharing part of your weekend with us and coming on. you've led the food depository since 2006 so you've seen it through several economic crises at this point. given that we're coming out of a pandemic and this period of high inflation, what are you seeing on ground that is different this time that concerns you? >> well, candidly, we have never in our 40-year history seen anything like that we've experienced over the last 20 months. and i'll lift up two things. first of course at the beginning of pandemic the school closures, business closures, the economic downturn put so many people who were already at the edge into
deep need. and now as the vaccine is rolling into place and businesses are beginning to reopen, the surge of prices is the second punch for many people. so in chicago we still have elevated need. 40% above where we were pre-pandemic and i might note that before the pandemic, we were doing a booming business of serving our hungry neighbors. >> so what are the most impor important items that you're running short on. what do people out there need the most? >> right now the challenges from food pantries and our neighbors turning to the pantries, cooking oil but also critical household suppose lies. diaper is a challenge, their really expensive and hard to come by and also great fresh food sometimes could be challenging to come by. eggs, milk, produce.
and so every day we're just trying to make magic happen to make sure that our neighbors have the food that they need. >> it sounds like you need a lot of just about everything. are you getting enough from local and state leaders? do you have a message that you want them to hear? >> so what i would say is that the response to hunger in this community and across the country has to be a public/private partnership. so critical programs like food pantries need to have food, food banks all across this country have to have food but we also need to make sure that our federal nutrition programs like snap, the school breakfast program the school lunch programs, after-school programs for children, those also have to be strong too. we need both of them working together to make sure that our neighbors have what they need to eat. >> and how about people that are watching right now, if they're in a position where they can lend a helping hand, eerm directly to you or in their own
communities, what are you suggest they do? >> so this is the good news. as sobering as it is to think about so many people in our country facing such great need, wherever people are right now, there is an amazing food bank in their community. the feeding america network has more than 200 food banks all cross this country and if you go to feedingamerica.org and find a food bank you'll find a great organization where you could volunteer and give food and donate financial support. >> kate, anything else that you might want to put out there for viewers to know about the situation and ways that this may be creatively approached? >> one thing i'll just say is that i think it is tempting this time of the year as we look at sitting down at our own thanksgiving tables to think that this is a seasonal problem and that this is something that is only in this moment.
we have so many millions of people in this country right now who are struggling and they will continue to struggle unless we do things differently. we need to come together and we need to make sure that everyone in our great country has what they need to thrive. >> a lot of folks in difficult circumstances right now. kate mayor, we appreciate the message and the time. thank you so much. >> thank you. more states are dropping restrictions for booster shots just ahead we'll tell you where an adult is eligible for a third dose. the latest covid headlines next. hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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shots for a certain group of people while some states as you mentioned are deviating from that policy, is it time to just allow everyone, everywhere, over 18 to get a booster? >> i think states are starting to deviate from the policy because they're watching as am i the covid numbers start to increase. just over the last two weeks case numbers are up 9%. we're averaging about 79,000 cases per day. and are still having days where there are over 100,000 covid cases in a single day. so states are trying to do what they could do to protect their population. >> and it looks like the fda will likely make a decision on authorizing pfizer booster shot for all adults without asking for input from the vaccine advisers which is always been a part of its process. what do you take away from that? does the vaccine panel need to meet every time a decision is made? >> there is precedent for the vaccine panel not to meet every time there is a change in
circumstances. and the advisory committee has given the fda their go ahead and said let's create some kind of framework so that we don't have to meet every time a decision needs to be made. now we do know that the cdc does plan on consulting their advisory committee before they are making any decisions. but when we're just talking about changing age groups, i think it is okay to move forward. >> and quickly, do you know if there is an abundance of supply for third shots for anyone who wants it that is over 18? >> it seems like there is. the u.s. government has made sure that they are continuously putting in bids to have endless supply of vaccines. so it is not an issue of vaccine supply. it is a about convincing people that getting vaccinated is the right thing to do. >> and so we've got thanksgiving coming up, right. a lot of people i know including myself will be traveling, a lot of us have little ones who are not old enough to be vaccinated. what do we need to know
regarding family gatherings, what is safe and what is not safe? >> you know, as we're moving into the winter months, people are moving indoors and we do know that being inside poses a greater risk of covid-19. first and foremost, get vaccinated. ifure already been vaccinated and it is been six to nine months since your last shot now is a great time to get a booster because you'll have time to build up immunity before the holidays. if you have to travel, make sure you're wearing a mask and a properly mask or a surgical mask or in closed spaces around people whose vaccination status you're not aware of. >> say there is a family gathering of about eight to ten people and he we know that maybe one or two in that group is not vaccinated. is it safe still to have an indoor gathering if most of the people are vaccinated? >> every family is going to kind of have to mitigate their own risk and decide what is
tolerable for them. if you have a family where only one or two people are not vaccinated, but most people are young and other wise healthy, they may be okay with undergoing the risk for the unvaccinated people to go maskless. versus if you're family has a lot of older adults or people who are immunocompromised, everyone may still want to put masks on while their indoors. >> yeah. and look, we've been tracking the trends in every single day here at cnn and right now we're seeing covid cases down in some states and up in other states as you were mentioning. it is confusing to follow what is happening around the country and how it effects me. we know that, what, 58.5% of people are fully vaccinated. a lot of states are relaxing indoor mask mandates although we know that in some states like texas and florida, that fight continues. taking all of that into consideration, what are your biggest concerns? are you still concerned about a winter surge? >> i'm definitely concerned
about a winter surge because we haven't yet cleared the delta surge. yes, cases are down, about half where we were at the beginning of september. but put that into context. we're still seeing about four to five times as many cases as we were seeing in june. so the numbers going up and down may be confusing for some but to me it tells me this pandemic is nowhere near over. >> all right. a dose of reality there. dr. bisset mccain, appreciate your wisdom. thank you. >> you're very welcome. thank you. there are serious questions about a school district in utah after the death of a young girl. her parents believe that she was bullied to death. that story coming up after a quick break. but first, we want to share a quick programming note and a preview of this weekend's new episode of "diana." >> beautiful day. and the whole city was crowded with people. considering the number of times some parts of royals have triped
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which found that serious and widespread racial harassment have previously taken place there. izy's parents are now demanding a response from the school district. cnn correspondent polo sandoval joining us with more. what more could you tell us. >> reporter: the probe found a disturbing pattern of harass amount against black and asian students in the district north of salt lake city and they ignored various complaints from parents and students for years. now that investigation actually came to a close as you noted just weeks before she took her own life. sher family now demanding answers from the school as they prepare to lay their little girl to rest later today. they say the first time they heard about harassment was last month. she was being teased and even being called the n-word at school. well according to a family attorney, her mother and stepfather took that bullying complaint to a teacher. they felt they weren't making any progress there so they went
to the principal. and then returning to the vice principle where the family felt very unheard and disregarded according to them. now cnn did reach out to the board of education at the davis school district and the foxborough almost to corroborate this version from the family and at this point the school district dieclining to comment right citing privacy and they did send a press release pledging an independent investigation to look further into the claim but department of justice are saddened by the death and the civil rights division is committed to the implementation of that october 21st settlement agreement that was reached between them and the davis school district and this is an investigation that started back in july of 2019 and when you read that report, that we initially reported on in late october, school officials there found that the school district as we mentioned was ignoring various complaints from parents and teachers repeatedly and at one point according to federal
investigators with the doj, even recommending that asian and black students at the school district not be so sensitive at the time school officials said they have a lot of work to do but that was before this case before izy took her life and the devastating impacts of bullying at school. >> just heartbreaking. polo sandoval, thank you. >> thank you. the death toll from the crowd surge at houston's astroworld festival rose nine to nine this week. many of those effects have started taking legal action. including more than 90 civil lawsuits filed against the events organizers by hundreds after tendies. new audio shows how police breached barricades and responded to the crisis. >> hey, i'm at the medical tent and there is a lost people trample and pasted out at the
front stage. >> this is clear. any surgery units that could advise of a trampling and injures? >> from the stage, we have -- [ inaudible ]. >> that is clear. trampling, they're taking them to the back. >> we are some unconscious in the crowd. >> cnn has reached out to the houston police department for comment on this reporting. lets a get to paul wartheimer the founder of crowd management strategies and he works on events and concerts that fill up with a lot of folks and, sir, from your perspective, what exactly went wrong here before and during the incident, what could have been done to make the festival safer? >> well, what went wrong is that
the crowd was not managed in front of the stage. and there was no planning to make that crowd, the audience safe. and there was no planning in case of an emergency where best efforts to make the crowd safe failed and you needed to have an emergency response. we know that because the festival operations manual or what i call the crowd management plan does not even mention the crowd in front of the stage. does not mention the hazards that standing room crowds face. crowd crush, crowd surge, crowd collapse. it did not even -- and if it did not mention even the crowd, acknowledge they existed at the festival, you cannot have a proper emergency plan for a mass casualty response. >> and paul, this event obviously has sparked calls for
new security procedures at these kind of major events but you're a skeptic that that will actually happen. why is that? >> because in the whole history of rock and roll, the concert and festival industry has failed to do anything. in fact, his block and obstructed efforts to do it. every time they have a wake-up call like this, which is what they call it, they hit the snooze button. they'll say the right thing now, about the need to do better and they'll have a committee and they're going to investigate and they're absolutely going to take it seriously, they say the right things but after the public turns away, they don't do the right things. they did nothing. did nothing after this 79 who concert tragedy 11 dead, did nothing after three kids were
killed in salt lake city, two 14-year-olds and a 19-year-old and in a situation crowd crush in front of the stage. did nothing at wood stock '99 after thousands were injured in front of the stage and women were raped. did nothing after the hundred deaths and 200 injures in westward rhode island in 2003 after the nightclub in chicago 21 people were killed. in denmark with the american band pearl jam after nine people were crushed to death in front of the stage and in a scenario that is basically the same as we saw at astroworld. they do nothing because they don't have to do nothing. because it is the most unregulated industry dealing with public safety in the united states. and they could get away with it. >> we will keep an eye on what
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a sad story to bring you this morning, the space community is mourning the loss of the blue origin astronaut glen deviries who flew to space last month was killed in a small plane crash in new jersey. so far it is unclear why the plane went down. >> blue origin said in a statement on twitter, devries brought so much life and energy to the entire blue origin team
and fellow cream mates. his passion for aviation, his charitable work, and his dedication to his craft will long be revered and admired. devries told cnn it was his lifelong dream to see planet earth from space. he was 49. poland's interior minister is calling the migration crisis an attack on the eu. it comes as thousands of people are stranded at the center of an intensifying geopolitical dispute with hopes of traveling into deeper parts of europe. >> the inhumane conditions that immigrants are enduring while trying to escape include vicious beatings and going without food for days. cnn's math you chance got exclusive access to the migrant camp in belarus. >> reporter: these are the desperate, trapped on the front line of europe's latest refugee crisis. exclusive access to the
burdening camp at the polish border in belarus. help, help, the little boy shouted. but there is barely enough help here to keep everyone alive. already people have died in the cold as polish forces stand guard on the other side. >> you can see how close we are. just across this razor wire fence of polish security forces there on polish territory keeping a close eye on the situation, trying to prevent refugees, migrants from this camp here, in belarus territory from crossing over that line. there are thousands of people here. 2,000 now. say belarus officials but with migrants still flooding in from the middle east and asia, it could be 5,000, they told cnn in just another week. for europe, that's a threat. >> sit down. >> sit down. >> sit down.
>> you're warming children's gloves. >> yes. >> most have played big money to traffickers or belarus travel agents to get this far. >> you're telling me you paid $2,000. which is a lot of money. >> right. >> to come from iraqi kyrgyzstan to get here. >> yes. >> do you think you will go through, to germany. >> yes. >> do you think it will happen? you're trying? >> yes. >> and the more migrants arrive, the more desperate their plight. we witnessed these refugees, frantically scrambling for firewood, essential supplies, as temperatures here plummet. for belarus, aid workers arrived with food and water, the scenes are even more crucial. >> i'm hungry. >> i hope you get some food. >> you can see these are pretty extraordinary scenes, we've got
belarussian military forces trying to push back the crowd of migrants that's gathered around the distribution of aid, they are just giving out plastic bottles of water here, but the people here are so desperate for any kind of nutrition, food, water, they're being asked to kneel down in front of the security forces, and when they kneel down, then some of them are being allowed to go through. >> what is this? >> who are you? >> hello, aji, do you speak english? >> yes. >> you speak a little bit of english? >> yes. >> shorehan and her 4-year-old son also travelled from belarus from iraqi kyrgyzstan to help her child. >> we need to help my son. he needs an operation.
>> he needs an operation. >> a big operation, in the back. >> oh, no. >> he can't walk. >> i see he's got this splint on his leg. >> yes. >> and he can't walk. >> why didn't do you this operation there? >> well because it is not very good. maybe failed. the operation fail. and we need to go to germany. everyone, and the doctor, told me that the operation in germany very good. >> but now, germany looks a long way off. with belarus in the west, blaming each other to the crisis. it's these people, stuck in the middle. who are paying the price. matthew chance, cnn at the border between poland and belarus. >> outstanding reporting from matthew chance there. thank you so much for joining us this morning. "smerconish" is up next. >> see you back in an hour from now. in-one management software
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but it will help you and your family stay safe during an emergency. so what's it worth? i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. what's the per person value of those civil suits pending against the united states government for the separation of immigrant families on president trump's watch? that question has significant financial and political repercussions. reports that the biden administration was considering a value of $450,000 per person has drawn strong rebuke from republicans. but an editorial in yesterday's "washington post" cautioned that revulsed jurors could award even more. at issue here is the zer