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the supply chain to the brink and the new moves now to try to fix it. and what pushed thousands of families to a key international border? we begin with the growing battle between the house committee investigating the insurrection and former president trump and those close to him. it is now one hour past the deadline for mark meadows, donald trump's former chief of staff. he was ordered to appear for a deposition and turn over documents today, and he has not. meadows' decision sets up another potential legal standoff for the january 6th committee and the justice department. a federal appeals court just granted donald trump's request to temporarily pause the release of key documents from him that were set to be released to the house panel. those records included white house call logs. also included handwritten memos
from mark meadows. in total, more than 700 documents from trump's presidency wb set to be turned over by the national archives. now that's all in limbo. all of this as a new interview with the former president and what he was thinking about on that day. kara scannell has the latest and is live in washington. this was setting up to be a big day for the house committee investigating the insurrection. meadows' testimony and all the documents from donald trump. now what? >> reporter: yeah, the committee was hoping to get a lot of answers today. now the question is will the committee move to hold meadows in contempt for not appearing today. just before that 10:00 a.m. deadline, when meadows was expected to show, his attorney issued a statement saying he wouldn't. in that statement, he said our correspondence in the last few weeks shows a sharp legal dispute with the committee. the issues concern whether
mr. meadows can be come pemed to testify and if he could that he could be forced to answer questions that involve privileged communications. legal disputes are appropriately resolved by courts. it would be irresponsible for mr. meadows to prematurely resolve that dispute by voluntarily waiving privileges that are at the heart of those legal issues." now, meld doe meadows making th statement in defiance of the house committee. they subpoenaed him weeks ago, seeking his testimony. bennie thompson, the chairman of that committee, told meadows he would hold him in contempt if he didn't show. here's what bennie thompson said in that statement to meld does. "there is no valid legal basis for the continued resistance to the subpoena. they'll view his failure to appear as willful noncompliance, which could result in a referral to the department of justice for criminal charges." that is the issue here in this, whether they will make that move. this comes in the backdrop of meadows being at the center of
the executive privilege fight where donald trump is trying to keep many documents, including three handwritten memos by meld does. the federal appeals court will hear arguments on november 30th, so we could resolution at the federal appellate level early next month. of course the former president will appeal that if he loses. >> joining me for more is paul callan and manu raju and john harwood. let's start with the legal. as kara was ending there, paul, meld does blows past this deadline. what do you think this means? >> it's a little odd his attorneys didn't co-nm and make a motion to quash the subpoena initially and then test that in the courts. you're seeing a stalling action. by stalling it this way, he's got to be held in contempt of congress and then that has to go over to the attorney general and then eventually something filed in court, so you're months and
months away from resolution of this subpoena with respect to mark meadows. >> months and months. manu, what is the committee going to do about this? kara read the statement from bennie thompson. do you really see them going the way of steve bannon? >> reporter: they're making that clear that is something they may do. bennie thompson has said for weeks he will not put up with any stall tactics, that they would move the way they did with steve bannon, to refer him to the justice department for criminal contempt charges. the problem is they don't know exactly what the justice department is going to do. we have not gotten any indication about whether merrick garland, the attorney general, would move forward with criminal contempt charges for steve bannon. that if they decide not to, that could make it easier for witnesses not to comply, point to the onkwoing court cases and defy the subpoenas. nevertheless, the committee said they would not semaccept what m
meadows' reason for not showing up. they're still planning to move ahead, may move forward to refer him for criminal contempt charges. we do expect a statement from the committee soon in the aftermath of meadows' decision not to appear in person or answer questions. at that point, perhaps more indication they may try to refer this to the full house, have a vote, try to encourage the justice department to move forward. then the ball again is in merrick garland's hands. >> i want to ask you about that in a second, paul. but john, kind of getting to the part of the big issue here, which is there is just one president at a time, and that president decides executive privilege. the biden white house has made clear now more than once that they are not going to do that, they're not going to support invoking executive privilege over these documents, a whole slew of them. what are you hearing about all that? >> well, kate, the administration, president biden, and the people who work for him,
have been walking a fine line this year. biden has been trying to tamp down some of the partisan temperature. his justice department does not want to look, even though many democrats want a forward-leaning, aggressive posture in going after former president trump and some of his aides over the insurrection and other things. they've been trying to look very deliberative and slow. now, they've drawn the line, though, where the committee is pursuing these documents, and the trump team is making these spurious executive privilege claims for somebody who's no longer the chief executive. so they're standing out of the way, saying this can go forward, but they still have decisions to make at the justice department about what to do with those criminal contempt referrals. steve bannon, we haven't seen action on that yet. and mark meadows, if it comes to that. so the administration is trying not to look like it's acting politically in this situation, and that can have its own slowdown effect. >> paul, i'm curious what you
think about this, because the justice department, as manu and john have discussed, still hasn't announced a decision on what, if anything, it will do about the bannon charge. now meadows is maybe facing the same. what does this mean for attorney general merrick garland? what do you think about this? >> i think garland takes this whole issue very, very seriously. he's acting like a good attorney general should do, because he's looking at the institutions and not just his relationship to president biden. and he's trying to decide what would the precedent be if we hold in contempt a former, you know, executive director of the white house and bannon and really close presidential advisers. so i think he's going to make a careful, deliberative decision on this. i'm not sure which way he will go. i suspect in the end he may prosecute particularly bannon. i think it is a much clearer case against bannon here, but it's an important precedent.
it's a fight between the branches of government about executive privilege and about whether presidential advisers can be hauled before congress after a president has stepped down. so the issues are very, very important. i think garland deserves credit for looking very carefully at this before he proceeds. >> so everyone knows what paul is saying, almost a little bit of a different case for bannon and meadows if it comes to that, is meadows left the white house in 2017, so he was nowhere near being covered by, you know, a special privilege of communications with the president on january 6th because he was nowhere near working for the president at that point. but, john, everything the house committee is asking for is trying to get at what donald trump was doing, saying, thinking around january 6th. and he did an interview with abc's john karl that was just released, a portion of it, offering a new window into his thinking. we're going to play this for you. this is when john is asking
donald trump about vice president mike pence. listen. >> were you worried about him during that siege? were you worried about his safety? >> no. i thought he was well protected, and i had heard he was in good shape. no, because -- i had heard he was in very good shape. but -- but -- >> you heard those chants. that was terrible. you know, the -- >> he could have -- well, the people were very angry. >> they were saying "hang mike pence." >> it's common sense, john, it's common sense that you're supposed to protect -- how can you -- if you know a vote is frud lent, right, how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to congress? >> john, there is a lot going on here on multiple levels. >> reporter: well, kate, what it does is confirm what we've long known about donald trump. donald trump is concerned exclusively with himself, with his personal circumstances, with the needs of his ego, loyalty to
him only flows one way, to him, not to other people. so he can take this callous attitude towards his haven't, the danger he was in, because he's seeing it only through the prism of he needed to do something to help me stay in power. it's shocking on one level, but it's not surprising on another. >> yeah. especially when everyone knows that mike pence is also seriously, seriously considering running for president in 2024. manu, i do wonder what the impacts this has on the committee's work, because cnn is reporting from jamie gangel that they are interested in speaking with people close to pence. you know, some of them with him at the capitol that day. >> reporter: yeah. the question is how many of them will cooperate. as with the meadows and bannon case, people closer to donald trump are less likely to cooperate. some of those folks who have created some distance with the former president, who may not be as close to him or in his inner circle may be more willing to cooperate. and that may include some of the folks in mike pence's inner
circle, particularly after january 6th, a lot of them appalled by donald trump's actions. perhaps there will be more cooperation there. kate, also a big question, what will mike pence himself do? ultimately, there will be an effort almost certainly by the committee to try to get mike pence to cooperate, try to see if he could provide any insight. will he stick to the president at the time and detail what he knows? all big questions as they try to purcey these questions in the months ahead. >> thank you so much. i want to turn to kenosha, wisconsin, and the trial of kyle rittenhouse. prosecutors and the defense teams have rested their cases. and today both sides are going -- are back at the courthouse without the jury present to work through jury instructions when they will be getting the case next week. closing arguments are set for monday. cnn will bring those to you live. let's go to wisconsin, though. adrienne broaddus is live outside the courthouse.
adrienne, what are you hearing there? >> reporter: well, kate, good morning to you. judge schroeder took the bench moments ago, and we are waiting for that meeting between him and the attorneys to hammer out the details of the jury instructions. the attorneys had until last night to turn in their proposals for any special requests regarding those jury instructions. on monday, we know closing arguments will take place. each side, the prosecution and the defense, has 2 1/2 hours for closing arguments, and that includes the rebuttal. the prosecution is expected to show videos. this is what the assistant district attorney, thomas binger, told the judge yesterday. and those clips total about 30 minutes from that night kyle rittenhouse shot three people, killing two. by contrast, the defense has said it only needs an hour and a half for closing arguments, and
it's likely the defense will continue to hammer home the point that kyle rittenhouse, they believe, acted in self-defense. over the last eight days, we've heard from 31 witnesses. and the facts of the case haven't really been disputed. everyone agrees kyle rittenhouse shot three people, killed two. but at the end of the day, it's going to come down to whether or not this jury believes kyle rittenhouse was attacked or whether he's k escalated the situation firing on those men. there are 18 members of the jury, but that will decrease to 12. the method is old-fashioned. they will draw names. the 12 that are chosen will dlib rate. they will decide the fate of kyle rittenhouse. if he is convicted on the most serious charge, he could face a maximum sentence of life in prison. the remaining jurors will serve
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a record number of americans kwits their jobs in september, 4.4 million people. the last record of people leaving the workplace set just a month before with 4.3 million quitting in august. let's get over the cnn's matt egan watching all of this, tracking the numbers. matt, what are you seeing here? >> kate, covid has been a game changer for the jobs market. american workers today are demanding better pay, better benefits, and more flexibility. it's not just about economics. the pandemic has forced this reassessment over quality of life and purpose of work. i think what's key here is that more than any time in recent memory, american workers have leverage here, because companies can't fill all these open jobs. clearly workers are not afraid to use that leverage. so that's what we saw a record 4.4 million americans quit their
jobs in september, as you mentioned, back-to-back record numbers right there. let's look at the industries getting hit the hardest. we saw heavy quits in arts and entertainment, the service sector, state and local government as well. one economist told me that these new numbers show the era of paying less than a livable wage is over. given all the people quitting it's not surprising to see the number of job openings remains very elevated, above 10 million. it's come down a bit, but these are still high figures. it's also important to remember that the fact that people are quitting so much and that there are so many open jobs, this worker shortage is contributing to historic levels of inflation, because companies have been forced to pay workers more money and have passed along some of those costs to consumers. i think in the long run this is all a positive because workers could be happier, they could make more money, could sort of lift people out of poverty. but, kate, in the short run,
this is going to complicate the supply chain stress and the inflation and the reopening of the economy. it will take time to sort it all out. >> matt, thank you very much for that reporting. i appreciate it. it leads perfectly into what we want to focus in on, one part of that supply chain, because one industry being hit by this labor shortage is america's trucking industry, a key part of the country's supply chain, which is all under incredible stress right now. transportation secretary pete buttigieg just this week talked about it. listen. >> we've got to just make truck driving a better job. truck drivers, there's a reason the turnover is so high. and the way they're compensated, they're often not compensated for their time. they are the backbone of a big part of our supply chain. we need to respect and compensate them better than we have. >> so industry leaders say they're short 80,000 truckers, a record high, which is 30%
increase from before the pandemic, threatening a huge gap in supply chain and becoming a big problem from washington to wall street to main street. joining me now is the president and ceo of the fourth largest tank truck carrier in the united states. greg, thank you for being here. as you heard the transportation secretary, he points to pay as a reason for the trucker shortage hampering the supply chain. is that one of the reasons you see creating this crisis? >> good morning, kate. thanks for having me. i would say my personal opinion is pay has increased dramatically in the last few years to try and fill an ever widening gap in the shortage of truck drivers. i would point more of the problem at lifestyle, the work/life balance that your previous reporter was talking act, people wanting their lives. they're people like the rest of us. they have a different job where they have an independent job where they're out on the highways of the nation. so they want good benefits, they
want good pay, they want consistent pay. one of the problems with covid was when a lot of the volume dropped off and we didn't have fuel to haul in the tank truck business, didn't have retail products to haul, they didn't have any work to do. these are people who don't like to sit. they want to be out doing and accomplishing things for the country. >> that's really interesting because it's impacted by the pandemic on the front end and impacted by the pandemic on the back end as well, kind of two opposing forces in what you're dealing with. i know your company has been increasing pay. that's something you guys have been talking about. the country has grappled with a chronic lack of drivers for years. it's definitely been christmaser baltimored by the pandemic. i'm curious how challenging this is for you all right now. >> well, it's a challenge we're used to. in some ways the industry has been accused of crying wolf because every year we say it can't get worse and it gets worse. it comes down to a couple of things. we need to improve the image of a truck driver.
i remember as a kid driving down the highway and doing one of these, wanting the driver to honk their horn. the highways today are very stressful. they're full of a lot of distracted drivers. the infrastructure is crumbling. good thing we passed the infrastructure bill. if we fix that, that will help a lot. but improving the image is one part of it. improving lifestyle is another. how much do people want to be gone from home for four to six weeks? our drivers are home a couple times a week or every night, but a lot of the long haul trucking is a long way from home, and they have ball games they want to go to, go to recitals, church, like the rest of us. i think we'll see a shift in how trucking is run in the future, and they have to be compensated for a skilled job. these are highly credentialed people driving these trucks, and they have a lot of skills. we i'd like to see the department of labor name this as a skilled position because good drivers are professional drivers that are highly skilled. >> that's fascinating. i, too, throughout my childhood,
we would count on the highway, flat roads in indiana, how many truckers we saw. just this week, i did want to ask you, just this week walmart announced that it's starting to use driverless trucks for its online grocery business, putting out video we're showing right now. is that part of the problem? people see this as the road ahead? is that where you think you all are headed? >> i don't think it's where we're headed. i think most of the public would rather see a driver hauling a load of gasoline or chemicals or as ids with a driver that's highly skilled and professional. i think there are portions of the infrastructure that would allow for driverless trucks, but a lot of places it won't work. i think truck driving has a long future. if you want to join this industry, we'd like to see them join sooner, they can learn to be a driver, gain the skills needed to be in whatever sector. but autonomous trucks will have
a part in the supply chain, but i don't think you'll have a dramatic piece for white a while. >> getting into the industry at a younger age is interesting. it is part of the pilot program and part of the bipartisan infrastructure bill, something being discussed as well. it's great to meet you, greg. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. coming up for us, an attorney for one of the three white men accused of killing ahmed arbery asked a judge to not allow any more black pastors in the courtroom. what that attorney is saying today. season after season. ace your immune support with centrum. now with a new look! (man 1) oh, this looks like we're in a screen saver. (man 2) yeah, but we need to go higher.
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testimony has resumed in the trial of the three why men accused of murdering ahmaud arbery in south georgia. a police officer is testifying about a separate break-in weeks before arbery was killed. also today, one of the defense attorneys in this case issued an apology over comments that he made in the courtroom in front of cameras complaining about black pastors attending the trial. watch what he said in court yesterday. >> we're going to start pressing, starting yesterday, we're going to bring
high-profile members of the african-american community into the courtroom to sit with the family during the trial in the presence of the jury. i believe that's intimidating and an attempt to pressure could be consciously or unconsciously an attempt to pressure or influence the jury. we don't want any more black pastors coming in here or jesse jackson, or whoever was here earlier this week, sitting with the victim's family. a bunch of folks dressed like colonel sanders sitting in the back. >> brian, what is that attorney saying now? >> reporter: well, that attorney says he's sorry if he's offended anybody, but he says on monday he plans to put some more statements forward so the court can do something about this. for the record, reverend jesse jackson hasn't been here. yesterday i can tell you in court, kind of like slow moving because they played video for most of the day.
th 3 hours and 45 minutes of taped testimony. but that comment shook things up because people didn't understand why a day later this was being brought up. of course they have a lot of social media presence and some of those reverends are taking heed to this and probably will be back. take a listen to one talking about what he heard yesterday in court. >> it exposes a way of thinking -- blackness means intimidation. blackness means intimidation. and he wants -- by saying that and opening his mouth, he exposes that he sees blackness as a threat. what we must focus on is why would he specifically spew blackness in here and connect it to intimidation? because that's at the heart of this case. >> reporter: the officer who's giving testimony, i'm paying attention right now, they're going through body camera footage from some of the times they responded to that scene. talking to larry english, the man on that video yesterday,
who's unhealthy enough not to be able to testify at this point, but the reason this is going back and forth is they believe one of the break-ins that happened earlier in that area was a white guy. a lot of people in this committee says the break-ins were being assigned to a black man. it's going to that central figure of race. that's what the conversation has been center around this entire time. that comment in court rallied people up, especially in the community. as we're watching this testimony, we know larry english was in contact with the officer all the time. it's one of those things we've been watching develop throughout the day. it will be interesting how it moves forward the rest of the day. >> ryan, thank you for that. also want to turn now to this -- as this could be a very big day for britney spears, expected back in court today, and a judge expected to rule on the singer's request to terminate her conservatorship meaning her 13-year ordeal may finally come to an end today.
chloe, it was i think a little over a month ago the court suspended her father from acting as her conservator. now what? >> reporter: hey, kate. thanks for having me. i'm in front of the los angeles county superior courthouse where britney is expected to call in virtually, like she has in the past. today is the day. like you said, after 13 years, britney spears should at the end of this court hearing today, should no longer have a conservatorship, be which-in charge of her $60 million estate, her medical decisions, something he has pleaded about and cried about in those testimonies over the summer that she just wants her life back. kate, that could happen today. >> does this -- if that -- assume that happens today. does this mean the end of the battle between britney and her father? >> reporter: no, far from over.
so, britney's new attorney filed a 110-page petition last month that cnn obtained that he wants to depose her father under oath. he believes he mishandled britney spears' finances in the last 13 years. he wants to seek discovery because there was a "new york times" report that said that jamie spears placed illegal recording devices in brittney's bedroom. you might remember that. he wants to ask her father under oath, did you do these things? jamie has denied doing this, denied wrongdoing on all fronts, said he still loves his daughter. he was suspended as conservator of her estate about a month ago, but this legal battle, at least outside of this courtroom, is far from over. >> we'll be watching it right along with you, chloe. thanks for being there. appreciate it. coming up for us, the climate conference in scotland coming to a close. so what did the nations agree to?
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the long-anticipated agreement among the nations attending is still being worked out and already being criticized as not going nearly far enough. cnn's phil black has been following this and is live in glasgow for us this hour. phil, what exactly is in this agreement? >> reporter: well, kate, as we speak, almost 200 countries are closely scrutinizing going through this text to try to get a result they believe is in each of their national interests. it is a slow, painful process. we've seen two drafts already with clear themes and issues. as you touched on, there is for the first time reference to phasing out coal power and fossil fuel subsidies. it's been weak screvened a little, the language in the second version, but crucially it is still there and we will be looking to see if it survives into the final text. critically, the text lays out a path forward and tells countries to come back in a year with deeper, stronger emission cuts targets before 2030. the reason that is vital is because the science says the
world needs to cut emissions by 45% by the end of this decade to get a handle on climate change. we are currently nowhere near achieving that. developing poorer countries are happier with the most recent version because it significantly increases the financing from richer countries to help them adapt to what they're already experiencing, the current impacts of climate change and those that are inevitably going to follow in the years ahead. now, whatever the final text looks like, it is not going to solve climate change in and of itself, but it is really important for creating momentum, making incremental progress, and setting a path forward so that there remains a chance that the world can still achieve what the science says is necessary within a rapidly closing window of time. if this process collapses, so does that, kate. >> at some point, the process
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. at this hour, thousands of migrants trapped in terrible conditions caught in between the european nations of belarus and poland, quickly becoming political pawns with russia looming over all of this and a humanitarian crisis now turning into a military standoff. russia and belarus holding joint drills near the polish border and thousands of polish and ukrainian troops deploying there. cnn's senior international correspondent matthew chance is there inside one of these migrant camps. >> reporter: it's a feat in itself getting to belarus. i mean, you know, there's only a handful of television crews that have been permitted access at this extraordinary moment to come to the country. as far as i'm aware, i would have been assured by the bela russian officials, we're the only international crew allowed to come to this migrant camp on the border of belarus and poland.
i don't know whether -- i'm sitting on my cell phone, so i don't know if you can get a sense of the sort of depth of the camp. there are 2,000 people that have come here from various parts of the world, the middle east, iraq, kurdistan and iraq, and other places in the arab world as well, a lot of people from kurdistan. at least 200 i'm told are children, some of them just babes in arms. we see a lot of people here, if i can spin around here, look, chopping wood, getting ready to make fires, to get them through the very cold nights here on the border. 600 of them are women, the other 1200 young men. i'm going to flip the camera around to show you interesting scenes there. a better look at the scenes playing out, unfolding here on the border between belarus and poland. if you just allow me to sort of walk you down here, we can
actually see the razor fence -- don't want me to show your fence. i won't do that. the razor fence erected by the polish side to try to prevent the migrants that have flooded into belarus from moving across into poland, which is, of course, a member of the european union. there you can see i think the actual polish police and border forces who are standing there on guard all the way down this razor wire barrier to prevent migrants from breaking through. you get a sense of how long this camp is as it stretches down into the distance, into the forest out of sight. here's an interesting scene for you, somebody i came across yerl earlier, they say a lot of the migrants are from iraq and kurdistan, building these makeshift shelters because the temperatures in this part of the world in the winter are dropping down. let me drop in sight. they've built a shelter.
hi, how are you? how are you? >> fine. >> where are you from? >> iraq. >> from iraq. from kurdistan. >> excellent. thank you. good luck. >> reporter: all right. so just a little sense of the scenes we're witnessing here. i should tell you that, you know, both sides blame each other for this crisis. the western constructions including the united states, the european union and poland said that belarus is using these refugees as propaganda. it's encouraging them to come in and essentially directing them, forcing them towards this border to put pressure on the european union and to punish it perhaps for some of the support that eu ha given to belarussian dissidents and the sanctions for its crackdowns on its own opposition figures here in the country. what the bela russians say as well as some international aid agencies i have to say, is that the polls are not doing
everything they can either to protect the rights of migrants and in some ways not living up to their obligations under international law. it is a very difficult situation. i've got some news for you from the migrant services, 2,000 people in this camp at the moment, by the end of the week, there could be as many as 5,000 and there are thousands more, according to bela russian officials who are on their way. >> wow. matthew chance, thank you so much for reporting. matthew is there and will continue to bring you all of his reports, right there in the middle of it. thank you so much. we'll be right back. observing investors choose assets to balance risk and reward. with one element securing portfolios, time after time. gold. agile and liquid. a proven protector. an ever-evolving enabler of bold decisions. an asset more relevant than ever before. gold. your strategic advantage.
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