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a brisk autumn sky. congratulations to elise and oliver as they head off on their honeymoon. our podcast has a conversation with brian rosenwald about right wing media's impact on elections. and then an all new "this is life" with lisa ling exploring chicago and the narratives about violence there and how they compare to reality in the city. that's tonight on cnn. we'll see you right back here this time next week. done deal. president biden is ready to break ground on his infrastructure bill. >> finally, infrastructure week. >> but as moderates hold the line on his social safety net bill, can he deliver that, too? i'll speak with energy secretary jennifer granholm and house moderate democrat josh gottheimer. and new playbook? republicans made gains with
voters who backed biden, raising hopes for a house gop takeover next year. >> let's climb that hill together. >> reporter: have republicans found a way to manage the trump factor? gop governor larry hogan joins me in moments. plus, message received. democrats point fingers about their election losses. what lessons should the party learn? >> we must get back on the ground and impact things that are important to people. >> reporter: the mayor-elect of new york city, eric adams, is here, as well as virginia's democratic senator, mark warner. hello, i'm dana bash in washington where the state of our union is feeling some whiplash after a bruising election day for democrats, president biden spent the weekend celebrating a significant win, bipartisan passage of his $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill, which passed the house overnight
friday with the support of 13 republicans and gives billions of dollars to the nation's bridges and roads as well as broadband, water and energy systems. saturday the president heralded a victory calling it a monumental step forward as a nation. the president is still pushing democrats on the hill to pass the other half of his domestic agenda, the $1.75 trillion social spending bill and climate bill. the administration hoped to pass this legislation together, but the time line for the larger bill slipped last week after moderates in the house demanded more information on the bill's cost. joining me someone deeply involved in the push for the infrastructure bill, energy secretary jennifer granholm. thank you so much for joining me. >> you bet. >> nice to see you in person. >> likewise. >> it's a very large piece of legislation, almost law. i want to underline a couple specific parts of it. the president said yesterday that the bill will "reduce supply chains bottlenecks now
and for decades to come" and to "ease inflationary pressure." when can american families expect to feel that relief? >> this is a really great question. the president is focused in the short term and long term. in the short term the inflationary pressures the price of fuel is high at the top of his list. the question is as we move out of covid, creating the supply chain bottlenecks and includes in the fuel sector as well. the energy information agency which is in the department of energy, has its forecast for the winter coming up in two days, and we'll be looking to see what the prices are looking like there. but know that all of the economists that the president has been relying on suggest there is a transitory nature to the the inflation problem as we move through the pandemic and we want to make sure that we get everybody vaccinated so that we can unclog the bottlenecks we've
been seeing. >> this bill, almost law will help? >> the bottlenecks in supply chains, for example, for batteries, for electric vehicles, there's $5 billion that has been put in to making sure we're actually building the electric vehicles and the guts to those vehicles that's in the infrastructure bill, putting people to work in good paying jobs will certainly help. with the two pieces, it's going to be 2 million jobs per year that are created, good-paying jobs and investing in our nation for the future is critical. >> there's a lot on climate, and electric vehicle chargers. when will that network be ready and when do you think the majority of drivers will be using electric vehicles? >> yeah, well, as you probably know, the auto industry itself has said that they want half of their fleet to be electric new
vehicles sold by 2030. this is a transition. right now we're not there yet but we want to make sure one of the reasons that people aren't buying electric vehicles to the extent that they could be is because there aren't charging stations. so there is a significant amount in the bipartisan infrastructure bill to build out that network. right now charging stations are largely in places where electric vehicles already are, a chicken and egg. rural areas, poorer areas have access to the fuel that's necessary and then in the build back better agenda, there will be incentives to purchase electric vehicles that will bring the cost down to the same level as gas-powered vehicles. all of that is happening. this is part of the long-term, the build-out of this will occur over the next few years. it's not going to happen in one year. it is a multiyear bill. this is why the president has his eye on the future, to make sure beget the clean energy necessary to make sure that the united states is taking advantage of this new global economy, having just come back from glasgow yesterday, it's really important for us to stake, take a stake in this whole clean energy economy. that's what this bill starts to do. >> you're talking about all
these things you say it's going to do. i don't need to tell you, tuesday night was not great for democrats. there is now a republican-elect governor in virginia. republicans almost pulled off an upset in new jersey. you are a former governor. what lessons do you take away from tuesday? >> thank god the democrats in the house got this message loud and clear, pass the bill and pass the second part, too, because these contain things that everyday people care about. the governor of michigan today, gretchen whitmer, ran on the phrase "fix the damned roads." that's what this bill does, it fixes the damned roads, it fixes the bridges. it gets broadband to real people, the second part invests in child care which we're the only industrialized nation that doesn't help families with child care. these are the basics, bringing down the costs of living for real people. so that you're not paying $500 a year to fix your car because you ran over a pothole.
>> you mentioned cost of living i've got to ask you about gas prices. according to aaa, the national average of gas prices is now $3.42 a gallon. bank of america is predicting crude oil prices could soar another 50% by next june. could the average gas price in america be $4.00 a gallon in the united states soon? >> well, we certainly hope not. as i say, the energy information agency is going to put out their forecast this week. the president is all over this, of course, every president is frustrated because they can't control the price of gasoline because it's a global market. he can call upon increased supply which he has done and opec is unfortunately controlling the agenda with respect to oil prices. opec is a cartel and it controls over 50% of the supply of gasoline. >> is there anything the biden administration it do about opec? >> he with call upon them to increase supply, and they have chosen not to do that. that increases the chokehold to
access affordable fuel at the pump. the president is looking at the tools he has. >> what about the strategic petroleum reserve? >> one of the tools he has and he is looking at that and i think we'll be looking at that forecast that's coming out on tuesday. >> should americans, likely be a cold winter, most of them are, expect to pay higher prices for heating their homes? >> yes. this is going to happen. it will be more expensive this year than last year. we are in a slightly beneficial position, certainly relative to europe, because their chokehold of natural gas is very significant. they'll pay five times higher. we have the same problem in fuels that the supply chains have, which is that the oil and gas companies are not flipping the switch as quickly as the demand requires. so that's why the president has been focused on both the immediate term and the long-term. let us get off of the volatility associated with fossil fuels and associated with others who don't have our country's interests at heart and invest in moving to
clean energy where we will not have this problem, and that's so much of what the two bills are focused on. >> secretary granholm, thank you for coming in. nice to see you. our next guest congressman josh gottheimer of new jersey has been leading democrats on social spending. he's the co-chair of the moderate problem solvers caucus and one of six centrists holding up passage of president biden's social policy bill until there's more information about its cost and how to pay for it. congressman josh gottheimer joins me now. thank you so much for coming in or for being on, i should say. you were a key player in negotiating this agreement with the progressives. it allowed the bipartisan infrastructure vote to happen. you spoke directly with president biden. take us behind the scenes. what did he tell you and how does it play out? >> first, thank you so much for having me, and obviously this is a big win this week for the country and obviously people i
represent in jersey in terms of investing in the infrastructure. the secretary was just talking about our roads, bridges, rail, getting the gateway tunnel between new york and new jersey built, water and broadband it was. bipartisan, democrats and republicans coming together. and the president i must say there's lots of back-and-forth between some of my colleagues to get this across the finish line. the president helped. >> how so? >> working with both sides trying to bridge some of the divide. well, making suggestions -- part of what we were doing toward the end is making it clear the information that we needed to move forward on the build back better reconciliation plan and when we come back in a couple weeks, i'm optimistic we'll have that information from the congressional budget office that will be consistent with the expectations that we receive from the data in the white house and the treasury department, which i believe is essential to making sure this bill is paid for and responsible, given how much good is in there, reinstating the state and local
tax deduction, helping with child care, pre-k and fighting climate change. the president was really just -- there were issues we were trying to work through and making clear to our colleagues we need that information to move forward, to do the responsible thing, but immediately we had to vote on the bipartisan infrastructure plan which, as you know, dana, has been sitting in the house waiting for action since early august, talking about 2 million jobs a year on the line and wanted to get the shovels into the ground. to me, he helped bridge some of the divides and we were able to move forward and get that vote done and we'll get it to the president's desk now. >> let's look ahead, all eyes are now on that $1.75 trillion package, new social safety net programs, climate provisions. here is what senator bernie sanders said on twitter about the time line for passing this social safety net bill. he said, "conservative house democrats committed to voting for the build back better act no later than the week of november 15th, their constituents are watching. they must keep that promise, no
excuses. every democrat must vote to address the needs of working families and climate change." what's your response? is it going to pass the house the week of november 15th? >> so in our statement we made it very clear, what we committed to was that we believe the information we back on that week from the congressional budget office more of the data to ensure that this bill is paid for, and does the responsible thing fiscally, and we plan to move forward, because it's going to meet our expectations i'm sure, but you know, again, what's most important, and i'd say to senator sanders and to everyone is that this bill is fiscally responsible and paid for. these investments are key for our country and for our future. i've talked about for my district how important it is to reinstate s.a.l.t. and get tax relief for middle class families. there's so much in there that matters. we should all celebrate for the country this vote and of course optimistic about moving forward here. >> i just want to be clear on
what you're saying. are you saying, if the congressional budget office says it is paid for -- you want to say it's paid for but what your statement said is that if it is "inconsistent with the white house analysis" meaning it's not paid for, adds to the deficit that you're going to keep working. so does that mean you would be a no if that's what the cbo says? >> what we understand -- we received a slew of data this past week from the treasury department and from the white house and some early congressional budget office analysis. we were going to receive, we were expecting to receive more in the next seven to ten days, we expect it to match up as presented and move forward. that is what i believe will happen, and you know, again, i think we all agree that the reconciliation package, the build back better legislation is critically important for our districts, districts like mine, so my expectation will be that we will be moving forward and we
celebrate, action, which is really important for the country. they want to see us moving forward and fighting for them. that's what i expect will happen. >> let me ask you the flip side of that and directly, do you need the congressional budget office to say that the bill is paid for, in order to vote yes? >> what we're looking for are cbo tables, which score sections of the bill, which we will be receiving, and we already have some data, so we expect the information we received to be in line with what we received from the treasury department, and at that point i'm sure we'll be ready to move forward, but we just want to make sure we get that data and that we're able to align it with what we had received already. listen, i think what's most important for people to understand is the responsible thing to do when you get a piece of legislation like this is to do a full analysis and to understand the impact on your district, and the families in your district and that's what i'm looking at, to make sure that to vote for this and give
the country the win, that we deliver the way we should deliver. there's so much in there that matters for my district from reinstating s.a.l.t. and lowering taxes. >> let's talk about that. >> child care, pre-k. >> let's talk about reinstating s.a.l.t. progressives are opposed to the details of your plan, and s.a.l.t. stands for state and local tax deductions which were taken out in the trump tax cut. they say it is beyond acceptable that the top 1% could get effectively a tax cut from this bill. are you confident that what you are going for, which would allow wealthier americans to have their tax deduction on a state and local level, will be included? >> first of all, in my district, in bergen county, new jersey, where the median property tax is over $15,000, and law enforcement officer and a teacher together making $200,000, their taxes went up in 2017 when the state and local tax deduction was gutted by the
red states. for them -- for working class and hard-working families, middle class families in my district, this will equal a tax cut for them, because their taxes went up. so this is really about making sure we make life more affordable for them. i get it. for bernie sanders, if you're in vermont, it's a different situation. the property taxes i think median property taxes are $4,000, not $15,000, and the median income is not $100,000. it's $40,000. so i understand it's a different place, but if you're in new jersey, northern new jersey, where things are more expensive, this is a middle class issue. it's about tax relief for them, and that's why it's got to happen, and we've been working closely with senator schumer and with congressman swazi and pasquarelle and others. we've got to make life more affordable for them. >> you mentioned new jersey. your democratic governor, phil
murphy, won his re-election on tuesday by less than 3% in a state joe biden won by 16 points. the longtime democratic leader of the state senate lost to a candidate who spent under $2,500 on his campaign. what happened there and how nervous are you about holding onto your seat in 2022 looking at what happened? >> the big lesson for me that night, and i think for a lot of us, is that people want action. they want results for families and whether that's clean drinking water or fixing the potholes when they drive to work and so they don't have to spend hundreds of dollars of year fixing their cars or not sitting on jersey transit and getting the trains moving faster, i think to me the lesson is we need action for them, and that's why the infrastructure bill getting that passed, the bipartisan infrastructure bill had 13 republicans in the house, 19 in the senate, truly a great
bipartisan win for the country, is so important and i think when we get the build back better legislation across the finish line and get s.a.l.t. relief and tax relief and tax cuts for them, i think that's also going to help. but you got to get things done and i hope that's the lesson everyone took. it's the lesson we took this week, why i worked hard with my colleagues to get it across the finish line and get the first bill done and what i heard from the president, he wants to get it done which i was grateful for his leadership. that's why it's so important. >> thank you so much, congressman, for joining me this morning. >> thanks for having me. great to see you. has the republican party found the way to handle the trump factor? republican governor larry hogan is with me next. plus, a year ago president biden won virginia by 10%. what went wrong for democrats tuesday night? virginia senator and former governor mark warner is coming up.
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that issue, no matter where you stand, it is over. >> former presidential candidate chris christie speaking yesterday. he of course backed former president trump in 2016 but is now warning against his 2020 election lies, as some in the republican party feel a new sense of hope after tuesday's election night, until trump decides whether he will run again in 2024, the party will have found maybe another way to win without him. let's talk about that. joining me now is maryland republican governor and possible presidential hopeful himself, larry hogan. thank you so much for coming in. >> good morning. >> let's talk about what glenn youngkin did in virginia. he had a delegate balancing act he seemed to pull off.
he appealed to the trump republican base and didn't alienate independents and suburban voters. what did you learn from the youngkin playbook? >> first of all he did a terrific job and connected with voters. terry mcauliffe tried to make it all about donald trump. every time he opened his mouth he talked about trump and youngkin tried to focus on solutions to problems and focused on issues. and i think voters want to hear more about what you're going to do for them rather than what you want to say for or against the former president, and youngkin i think balanced. he did what we did in 2018 and 2014, which was fire up and energize the base while also appealing to suburban voters. it's not a choice between do you want to turn off the base or do you want to appeal to a broader audience. it's what i've been talking about for more than a year that we have to have a bigger tent, that we have to have a message that resonates with people that are swing voters. >> one of the things he was able to do is keep his distance in a certain way from the former president, donald trump. midterms, the midterms coming up are quite different. trump is already very involved, planning on hitting the campaign
trail. are you worried that that will hurt republicans? >> i'm concerned about it. it's obviously an issue to contend with and if the former president interferes with the primaries and tries to help nominate folks that are unelectable in a general election in say swing districts and purple states, that's gonna hurt. but look, this has been a constant problem. i was reelected. i ran 44 points ahead of president trump in maryland in 2018 in between him you know, losing by 30 points in 2016 and '20, so it is possible. the democrats have been trying to make it all about trump and i think that's a mistake. i also think the democrats, you know, joe biden ran as a centrist saying he was going to bring the country together. i think that's why he won, but he's the kind of out of control wokeism and far left progressive caucus that almost screwed up the infrastructure bill i think is going to hurt him. >> yes, and you mentioned the fact that the former president
is already getting himself involved in primaries. one of the reasons glenn youngkin was so successful because yes, he had the endorsement of the former president but he stayed out of it, and there's no guarantee in other states where he feels like he has more popularity that he will not get more involved. what's your message to him? >> that's going to be something we have to contend with. he's likely not going away regardless of what the future holds for him but if the republican party wants to be successful at winning elections, i agree with the clip you showed from my friend governor christie who said we can't look back and constantly relitigate what happened in 2020. we had a look to '22 and '24, it's not about the former president, but there's no question, glenn youngkin did a good job of not alienating that base, but trump never stepped foot in the state, which was great thing for glenn youngkin and the country. >> let's talk about the bipartisan infrastructure bill that passed the house finally.
only 13 republicans voted for it. you were a big supporter. you helped get it to the finish line with the lobbying. house republican leaders lobbied the members to. >> it is a long, sad story but sort of a happy ending. i held a summit in april, the problem solvers and josh gottheimer and ryan fitzpatrick, his republican co-chair, we had 29 republican votes at that time. we crafted the basic size and scope of this bill. >> what happened? >> what happened was president biden agreed too a bipartisan compromise that did not include any of the far left stuff on the second package and then changed his mind, and backtracked. it passed overwhelmingly in the senator with 69 votes. the house should have taken it up the next day and it would have passed overwhelmingly with 29 votes but two things happened. one, the democrats broke the agreement, and tried to conflate the other far left bill that has nothing to do with infrastructure and say the progressives hijacked it and said we're not going to vote on this unless we get everything we
want. that's not what a compromise is and not what the president agreed to. you also had all that time -- several months went by and you had president trump attacking republicans on infrastructure, you had the progressives saying they have to be together, and republicans said hey, i don't want to be a part of that. >> the president is going to sign this likely into law next week. you're a candid guy. is this a political win for him? >> i think it is. it could be a bigger win. he nearly snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. it should have been an overwhelming win back in august and i think he should not have let it get sidetracked by the progressives in the house. i think that was bad for joe biden. i think that was reflected in the election results, because i think they misread the mandate. joe biden won a very narrow election by winning swing voters and they're not where the progressive caucus is i can assure you. the vast majority of americans are not for the second bill. >> i want to ask you a couple of
covid-related questions. there is an approaching deadline for president biden's requirement that federal workers get vaccinated. you have a lot of federal employees who live in your state of maryland. where do you stand? do you support that? >> well, look, we've been very, very successful in vaccinating -- one of the most vaccinated states in america with one of the lowest case rates and lowest case rates and positivity rates in the country. we have vaccinated nearly 87% of all adults, so we're trying to get that last 13% done. we've been encouraging everyone as strongly as possible to get the vaccine. obviously, the president can mandate federal employees who work for him but i'm not sure it's a good idea. i think we should continue to try to make sure we get everybody vaccinated. there are some -- we got a 400-page set of regulations late friday which we haven't reviewed on what he's trying to accomplish, the court case already put it on hold. there's legal constitutional questions that have to be answered. look, i agree with the president, we need to get
everybody vaccinated to get out of this pandemic, but i don't think the way he's going about it is the right way. >> before i let you go, your second and final term as governor is coming up next year. your phone was reportedly blowing up on tuesday with people urging you to run for the senate next year. will you? >> it's not something i've ever really focused on. i'm not sure "blowing up" is the right term but a lot of people have been encouraging me. it's not something that i'm really taking a serious look at. i'm very concerned about the direction of the country. somehow i'm going to continue to stay involved because i care. i care about the future of the republican party and the future of the country, but i'm not sure what i'm going to be doing next year or -- >> so you're not seriously looking at the senate because you're more interested in the presidency? >> i'm just interested in being the best governor i can be for the next 14 months. >> come on, governor. >> we'll figure out what the future holds, but i'll be part of the discussion. >> thank you so much. appreciate you coming in. good to see you in person. >> thank you. one of the first people to congratulate democrats on the passing of of the infrastructure
bill friday, the man who lost his race for virginia governor, terry mcauliffe. he called the soon-to-be law a big win for virginia, but you have to imagine that privately his language was probably a bit more colorful, since he's been pushing for democrats for months to pass the bill before the election that he ended up losing. joining me now is the democratic senator from virginia, also former governor of virginia, mark warner. thank you so much for joining me, senator. so you also have been calling for this bipartisan infrastructure bill to pass for months. had that happened, would terry mcauliffe be the governor-elect of virginia right now? >> dana, you know, what a difference a week makes. if we were having this show a week ago or two weeks ago, remember we've had two major things happen. one, a great jobs report, 531,000 new jobs, a couple hundred thousand jobs added in preceding months. if we could have had this
bipartisan infrastructure bill which larry hogan is right, the house could have passed it in august, we could have spent the last three months going around virginia talking about clean water systems, improving our transportation system, making sure our airports didn't appear to be third world, making sure every home in virginia had high speed broadband connectivity. we have a lot of coastal areas, finally the federal government is stepping in on resiliency, or an issue like the country is going to buy 25,000 new school buses over the next five years. chances are they'll be electric. wouldn't it be great if we made those buses in america or in virginia? we have money for that in this infrastructure bill. i think if we could have been talking about that win, and showing the kind of job creation that actually has been taking place, things might have been different. >> different in that you think terry mcauliffe could have pulled off a win? >> absolutely. absolutely. i mean, this was -- the voters
of virginia and the voters of america gave us the presidency, the senate and the house. they expected us to produce. they've been hearing about this bipartisan infrastructure bill for months, and i'm very proud of the bill. i was one of the so-called gang of ten that put it together. is it perfect? no. but it is the first time in 50 years, 50 years we've made this kind of investment. >> so the flip side of what you're saying is that the democrats who control congress, the democrat in the white house, by not getting this done, they're responsible for terry mcauliffe's defeat. >> what i'm saying is i wish the house would have moved earlier, but all of us know, i know as well, we need to pass the second half of the president's agenda as well. i wish we would have spent less time talking about top line numbers and more time talking about what's in it. for example, we all know we want to see the economy come further back. we want to deal with the supply chain issues.
part of dealing with the supply chain is getting folks back to work. one of the most important ways we can get people back to work is if we have child care that's affordable, and universal preschool. that will get particularly women workers back into the workplace. >> so you mentioned -- >> trying to make sure we all get vaccinated. make sure people feel safe. those are the things -- particularly preschool and child care are part of the president's second part of the agenda. >> those are two of many provisions in the other bill that is now waiting to get passed in the house. is there anything that you want to change, because as you well know, it takes every single senate democrat to vote yes for this second bill to ultimately pass. >> i think things like child care, pre-school make a lot of sense. lowering price of prescription drugs.
i've got a type one diabetic daughter, i can afford to pay for insulin. many families cannot. this new bill will cap insulin for every family at about $35 a month. that is an enormous benefit to millions of families, making sure we take the appropriate moves toward making sure we have a cleaner energy dealing with climate change. i think one of the things that's kind of thrown us all for a loop, most all of us, the vast majority of democrats thought that the way we would pay for most of this is by getting rid of some of the trump tax cuts, raising corporate rates, capital gains and rates for folks at the high end. the fact that is not the case means we have to get the paid-fors right and will take the center more time. i'm prepared to vote for the bill. >> you're prepared to vote for it. i want to take it up to sort of 10,000 feet and ask you about something that your fellow virginia democrat abigail spanberger had to say. president biden and his agenda, nobody elected him to be fdr. they elected him to be normal
and stop the chaos. so are you misreading what americans wanted out of this president, out of the democratic caucus, democratic congress that is now in control? >> i think what the american people wanted was to do rational pragmatic things. that's what i tried to do when i got elected governor 20 years ago when virginia was a very red state. the initial plan against covid in march was what the economy needed and americans wanted. i think the infrastructure investments were long overdue, but i do think coming out of covid, when virtually everybody's life has been dramatically changed, thinking about and putting forward proposals about child care, about preschool, to get folks back into the workplace, to recognize that we've been talking about bringing down the cost of prescription drugs for 30 years, and we're finally going to do it, and recognizing we've got to grapple with climate change, i actually think that is what the american public hired joe biden to do, and i
think once we do it, i think you'll see the president's numbers dramatically improve. >> i want you to listen to what democratic strategist james carville had to say about what he thinks went wrong for democrats. >> it was stupid wokeness. just defund the police lunacy, take abraham lincoln's name off of schools? people see that, and it's just really have a suppressive effect all across the country, the democrats. some of these people need to go to a woke detox center or something. >> are democrats too woke, senator? >> listen, i don't support defund the police. as a matter of fact, i think you saw democrats all around who are successful, the mayor of new york you'll have on is talking about investing additionally in our police forces. are there ways we need to make policing more community-based? absolutely.
the notion of what happened in virginia, there is not a school in virginia that teaches critical race theory, but governor-elect youngkin stirred up the cultural pot there. i hope he governs in a different way. >> can i stop you for a second? it's true it's not in the virginia curriculum at all, but did democrats miss a chance to signal to parents in particular that they understand their anxieties? i talked to democratic candidates and others who say that they didn't really have a good answer to questions about children and not only what they're being taught in schools but the anxiety as we come out of the pandemic. >> dana, i think glenn youngkin touched a nerve that was felt in virginia but frankly felt all over the country, and i think sometimes our response, yes, we need to make sure that we increase teacher pay. as a matter of fact, we put --
the federal government has put more money into education both under trump and under biden, in the last 18 months through covid than ever in our history. i do think we need to acknowledge that it's been hell for every parent living through covid, disrupting their life. i think we need to thank our teachers, i think we need to thank our school board members, and i think we needed to have acknowledged the challenge that parents have felt and that we need parents' involvement in their kids education, and candidly when we think about additional funding for school, i think one of its most important things we need to have talked about and should be talking about is i think a lot of those kids and a lot of folks, frankly, that have been working in schools are going to need some mental health assistance. i think the aftermath of covid is not going to be simply solved as we get these schools reopened but getting schools reopened does require the kind of hard choices this president has made about vaccines. >> well said, senator. thank you so much for joining me. appreciate it.
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welcome pack back to "state of the union." new york city elected a new mayor tuesday. eric adams says he's a progressive but with a different approach. many see his message as a blueprint for democrats across the country. joining me is new york city mayor-elect eric adams. thank you for joining me this morning. i appreciate it.
so you said that national democrats can't be so -- >> thank you. >> -- philosophical and theoretical that you throw out terms instead of looking at the ground and looking at what people need. so what was happening on the ground in this election and how did democrats who are not you miss it? >> well, i believe clearly we should be known for what we did, the infrastructure bill. that is what we must use as a blueprint. i say this over and over again new yorkers and americans we are not complicated. we have a covenant with government. we pay our taxes, and government we are supposed to give goods and services through the agencies and we continue to give a dysfunctional product every year, not educating our children. 65% of black and brown children don't read proficiently in new
york city. we have rats running rampant in our city, not picking up the garbage. public safety is a real problem, not only the action but the perception and so we need to get back to the basics and that is what i'm going to do as the mayor of this city. >> new york city struck a deal on thursday with major city worker unions over its vaccine mandate, and it comes after you said you would revisit how we are going to address the vaccine mandates. what did you mean by that? are you prepared to fire thousands of workers who don't get vaccinated? >> well, i think the mayor did what i was calling for during the last few days of the elections. i said something simple. let's communicate. i don't know what happened in our country where we believe that yelling at each other is a way of coming to a solution. let's seek to understand so we could be understood, the mayor sat down with dc 37, the largest municipal union in our city and able to come to a compromise and understand how to move forward. that is what i'm going to do. people talk about me sitting
down with gang members. people talk about me meeting those people on the street who were anti vaxxers and engaging in a conversation. i'll force new yorkers to do what we're not seeing on a national level, communicating with each other. >> on the vaccine mandate, assuming that is still in place with the current mayor, will you keep that in place and will it mean people who don't get vaccinated about not work for new york city? >> i believe in the mandates, let's be clear on that. we have done an amazing job, over 80% of new yorkers mandated. many of our municipal employees are as well. when you look in the crevices last numbers that are not, some are legitimate issues. one young lady i spoke with has a religious exemption for all of her children, 27 years old, never vaccinated in schools.
why are we telling her we no longer respect that? if there are real health care issues and religious exemptions we need to weed that out of those on the street trying to bring about disorder in our city. >> we had really good news this week, children as young as 5 years old can and are getting vaccinated now. do you think you'll be able to lift the mask mandate in new york city schools this year and if so, when? >> i hope so. we'll do it with the science. that's crucial to me, follow the science. i think part of the development is socialization of a child is that smile. i cannot tell you -- i look for that smile when i visit schools. not seeing the smiles of the children it has a major impact and not only that, not being able to identify the child. i walked past my brother the other day who had an a mask. i think it's imperative. we can find a safe way to do it. i look forward to getting rid of
the masks, but it must be done with the science, that we're not going back to turning our city and closing it down. >> mr. mayor-elect, i have to ask you about a tweet that you sent out this week that you're going to take your first three paychecks in bitcoin. would you encourage businesses in new york city to accept bitcoin or other cryptocurrency? >> we're going to look at it and we're going to tread carefully. we're going to get it right, but there's something else that i wanted to send a signal. this city was the empire state. we made empires. now we are destroying empires every day. this is the center of innovation, self-driving cars, drone development, cybersecurity, life sciences, and so when i talked about blockchain and bitcoins, young people on the street stopped and asked me, what is that? what is it about? >> can you explain in 30 seconds what it is for people who don't know? can you tell viewers who aren't really sure what bitcoin is? >> even experts will have a
challenge doing that. it is -- the cryptocurrency is a new way of paying for goods and services throughout the entire globe, and that is what we must do, open our schools to teach the technology and this new way of thinking when it comes down to paying for goods and services. >> i have to ask you about something a top economic adviser, jason furman for obama said, he said not only is it a bad investment for new york city, but a bad investment decision. it's like the mayor announcing i'm going to buy amazon stock and put in place policies to buy amazon. what's your response? >> i respect his opinion, but notice i'm using my personal money. i lost thousands of dollars in the stock market during the stock market crash from my retiermtd fund. volatility is part of the investment that we make. so he has his analysis, i have
my analysis, that i want to make sure this city becomes the center of innovation, no matter what that innovation ask, and this is what the spirit is about, not being afraid to look at every area of innovation as we move our country and city forward. >> mr. mayor-elect, i neglected to congratulate you at the beginning of the interview. congratulations to you, and i look forward to speaking with you again. >> thank you. >> sunday morning shows like this one have a store read history. most of the histories was made with male hosts interviewing male politicians. cokie roberts was one of the first to change that. she passed away two years ago but her husband and fellow journalist is out with a new book "cokie: a life well lived," filled with stories about who she was and how she got there. it was 1989, senator john tower was trying to navigate questions
of so-called womanizing. he then turned to the only female interviewer on the panel, cokie roberts. >> what is your definition of womanizing? >> i think most women know it when they see it, senator. >> it was emblematic and countless women all over the country say yeah, cokie. no man would say that, no man would feel that. no man would understand that. >> as somebody who was a co-host of the "today" show, i can't think of a more apt role model than cokie roberts. it was incredibly unusual seeing a woman sit there with the big boys. >> full disclosure, for a time my father, the one sitting in the chair, was a the executive producer of the show. >> she's an enormous inspiration, including you, for many years. people saw her on tv and hear her on the radio and say i can be that strong, i don't have to hide who i am.
>> who cokie was came from y years -- >> we had men saying to you, we don't want women to do that with their hands on your knee. >> honestly, we cared less about the harassment than the discrimination. >> the only reason she was hired at npr that propelled her career was because of two women who became lifelong friends. she spent a lifetime paying it forward, advising countless women, including yours truly. >> it wasn't that she modeled a life that so many women wanted to emulate, it was because she encouraged them. >> reporter: cokie was part of a political dynasty. >> you wonder how can she be to knowledgeable of our congress. there she is 4 years old. >> reporter: cokie's father, congressman hale boggs was house majority leader. for years she lived in this d.c. suburban house, where she grew
up. >> there have been many presidents in this house. lyndon johnson, ladybird johnson came to our wedding in this house. >> reporter: their wedding in the garden. their father invited the entire house democratic caucus. how many people were at your wedding? >> 1,500. >> reporter: how many? >> 1,500. >> reporter: they were married 53 years. first ten he was the starter for "the new york times." they moved around the globe for his job then she became the star. how did the president deal with this? you wrote jealousy is a virus that could easily affect our relationship. i was determined not to let that happen and so was she. besides, i was cokie's biggest fan. >> i always was. i was less surprised at her success than probably she was. >> what would you say to men who have cokie-like spouses?
>> realize how lucky you are and you have a full partner. >> reporter: it's been two years since cokie died. his loss is still palpable. >> anyone who's been in a large marriage will tell you if you're that fortunate, the loss is that much greater. the hole is that much bigger. >> reporter: my favorite quote now, maybe of all time, few of us can be a tv star or a best-selling author. every one of us can be a good person. >> that's the real lesson of the book. >> reporter: and that was cokie roberts. >> yes, it is. so much of what she did was out of the public eye. so many people now tell me, i want to be like cokie, i'm trying to emulate cokie, including me. >> thank you, pop. and thank you for spending your sunday morning with us. fareed zakaria is next. we're getting destroyed out there. we need a plan! right now, at t-mobile, customers on magenta max can get the new iphone 13 pro...
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this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you live from new york. today on the program -- joe biden goes abroad for only the second time as president to the g20 in rome. >> good evening, everyone. >> -- and to cop26 in glasnow. >> we meet with the eyes of america upon us. >> is america back atop the world stage, or are we in a post-american world? i will talk to the president's