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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com a historic week in washington. congress passes the trillion-dollar infrastructure bill. >> a once-in-a-generation investment that's going to create millions of jobs. plus, republicans celebrate tuesday's elections. >> we're going to embrace our parents, not ignore them. while disappointed democrats debate how to avoid another next year. and new signs of an economy back on track. >> this recovery is faster,
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stronger, and fairer than almost anyone could've predicted. >> but with gas and grocery prices still rising, when will americans feel it? "inside politics," the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters, now. ♪ welcome to "inside politics sunday." i'm manu raju in today for abby phillip. president biden says his party must deliver results to win back voters' trust after a tough tuesday night at the ballot box. passage of an historic $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill might be a start. >> we did something that's long overdue, that long has been talked about in washington but never actually been done. there will be jobs in every part of the country, red states, blue states, cities, small towns, rural communities, travel communities. this is a blue collar blueprint to rebuild america, and it's long overdue. >> it's the biggest investment
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american infrastructure in decades. huge pots of money to replace aging water pipes, boosting broadband internet. getting there was not pretty. it was summed up this way. >> the whole day was a cluster [ bleep ], right? >> progressives in the house threatened to torpedo the bipartisan bill unless moderates promised to support the bigger democratic bill which includes the rest of biden's priorities. they finally got that pledge. the bigger bill is up to senator joe manchin, but biden made this guarantee. >> let me be clear. we will p we will pass this in the house and we will pass it in the senate. i feel confident that we will have enough votes to pass the build back better plan. >> what gives you that confidence? >> me. >> joining us now with the reporting and their insight --
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so, john, you've been in the capitol like me every single day following every step of this process. they got the bill passed. it passed late on friday night. but why did this have to become such an ugly, difficult process for democrats? was that necessary to get this done? and how did it end up this way? >> no, it wasn't necessary. i mean, they, you know, they had passed this in the senate in august. it was handed to them on a platter. they had 69 votes. they had 19 republicans, they could have done it it. >> bilden actually came up to the hill twice and they still didn't pass it. they literally are negotiating with each other, they have to write out agreements. that's democrats on democrats. that's not the other side. they're writing out agreements with each other, negotiating on it. and speaker pelosi was sending, like, emissaries to meet with them. but i do think part of the
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problem is biden, his approval ratings are not great. members are starting to worry about themselves. they're starting to think about is this going to save me come 2022, and i think that's the problem that the leadership faces in the white house. >> yeah, and the white house clearly, jeff, they recognize they were pushing very hard for this vote. twice the president went up there, twice the democrats ignored him. he finally got it done. what was happening inside the white house on friday? >> over the last couple days the president was working the phones more than he has up to date wednesday, thursday, friday when he got back to the country from his trip abroad. he was talking to progressives, he was talking to moderates. he called into a meeting of progressives. he was basically saying now is the time to do it. he's gone up to the hill but he never said vote today. he finally said that friday. it took until almost midnight till end of the day on friday, more than the 11th hour. but the question is what permanent damage has been done?
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his approval rating is done now. had this happened in august, i think they would have gotten more republican votes. and, b, his approval rating likely would not be in the place that it is. but it is what it is, and he had a bounce in his step yesterday morning at the white house when he said, me. he has some confidence that he can get this done. fundamentally he believes that joe manchin is not going to block his agenda. yes, we're going to make some changes but he believes that joe manchin in the end -- because he can deal with him. he knows sort of what he wants, et cetera. >> what was an interesting dynamic is a lot of progressives said we're going to trust joe biden. but the moderates and progressives, the distrust was so intense in talking to members all day long and for multiple weeks they just did not believe the other side was going to do something, including a congressman who voted for the bill. but i talked to him about the
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trust deficit on late friday night. listen. >> do you trust them? >> i think that as a house democratic caucus, we have got to come together and that when we sign statements like that and when we do press conferences together to that effect, then people are deserving of our trust. >> i mean, that was a long -- [ laughter ] >> a yes-or-no question. >> do you think that this is bridgeable? the differences within the party, can they get past this or is this going to be a lingering problem heading into 2022? >> it obviously is a problem. so problems don't disappear overnight. the question is are the individual segments of the caucus going to, like, kind of get over it and say, okay, i don't trust them, i'm not going to say it on tv, and we'll figure out where we can get stuff done. one of the big lessons i think from tuesday night was you have to be able to show voters that you're majority, which is barely
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a majority, but they are a majority that can get things done. and if you're not getting things done, people say why did we switch teams. whether you are a progressive or whether you are a moderate, wherever you are in that spectrum, you're still going to get identified as a democrat and so is our president because you are democrats. and i think it's that, it shuns shouldn't be, like, do we have to trust them to get something done? we have to get something done and as soon as possible. >> i think they think they will receive some sort of benefit. we haven't seen from the american rescue plan when you look at polling, it doesn't look like many voters actually attribute anything, talking about extended unemployment benefits, expanded child tax credit. people don't know that that, thanks to democrats or to the president. there's no direct link. so i do think, i agree with you that had they not passed something, there would be negative consequences. but because they passed something, will there actually
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be positive consequences? i don't know. >> the president is going to have to go to district by district, sell it. can he do that? they tried to do that with the covid relief law, huge almost $2 trillion package and they have not gotten that reward. they have not been rewarded by voters at the polls. >> they're going to try again. we almost forget the american rescue plan happened. the white house rarely talks about it, but there has been money pumped into counties and cities and states. it's the challenge of the white house to communicate this. this has been a legislative challenge. but the messaging challenge they've been unable to get around that. it infrastructure is something more tangible you can actually see it. i remember when vice president biden went around the country going to, like, road openings and ribbon cuttings back during the stimulus bill in '09. so i think he will get out there more and sell it, but it's hard to break through even with that presidential megaphone. we don't know that voters are going to necessity reward them.
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look what happened in 2010. it's likely a disaster is awaiting. >> it takes a long time to spend that kind of money. there were 13 republicans who did vote for this bill. but here are the members who broke ranks. look at that. first we'll look at the members here. those are the republican members. 13 of them including congressman don bacon. and also some other moderate members and then the backlash. show that headline again of hearing disgraceful house republicans rescue biden's flailing agenda. that's from "the national review." john, this was a bill mitch mcconnell supported. >> 19 republican senators and only 13 house members, which is crazy. >> but what do you make of this division within the party? >> look, the republicans, you know, there's a faction of their party -- or not a faction, a lot
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of their party is opposed to anything democrats do. they can call it sunday and they'd be against it. so, i think that, i don't think kevin mccarthy and house minority leader is that worked up about it. fred upton in michigan voting for infrastructure projects, we knew fred was going to be there. i don't think it's a problem. i think mccarthy will try to move past this and just try to kind of ignore the marjorie taylor greenes and the meatt gaetzes say. that's what congress does. so, i think in the long run, this won't be their issue. but to get to jeff's point, the administration has had some successes. but we have to know is this the bottom for biden? that's what i really have to figure out and i think we all have to figure out, is he's bottomed out after tuesday,
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after afghanistan and the economy. members think that they'll act accordingly. >> this was a very long and ugly first chapter. there is the next chapter, which is getting the larger bill done. that bill is going to take a lot to get through the house. and then joe manchin will negotiate that with the senate. and then it will come back to the house. will they get it done? we'll see. job growth is storong and stocks are at a record high. but voters are worried about inflation. "inside politics sunday" brought to you by adt, real protection.
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but two-thirds of americans say it's in bad shape. the likely reason, empty store shelves and rising prices. now economists on both sides of the aisle warn inflation isn't going away any time soon. >> i think it's almost certain to last for another six to nine months, and it could well last longer. >> i wouldn't be surprised if the 4 or 5% inflation we're seeing now were to even double next year, if those policies pass. >> this is the headline from your story in the "new york times" this morning. it says, americans are fleshed with ashen jobs. they also think the economy is awful. explain the disconnect here. >> if you look at all the survey evidence of how people feel about the economy, the kind of lived experience of what they're feeling, they're not happy about it, they're not thrilled. 2010, '11, '12, if you ask
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people how's the economy, that's how people are feeling. wages are rising, people have money in their checking accounts, people are making more money, and the inflation story is part of why we have this disconnect. >> the stocks are 40% higher today than they were since election day, last election day. stocks, you know, the trump white house, when they had even the smallest bit of good news, they would go out and parade this. president trump at the time would do that. why is this white house not doing the same? >> we were talking about the messaging channel. a lot of americans are not invested in the stock market. they're not going to derive their retirement savings from the stock market. so there are two americas. this is another example of that. there was a line in his story that i thought totally captured what it's about. it's about the psychology of inflation. it's not about the facts on the ground. it is about what is on your
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mind, what it is now and what's coming. and that fear of unknown. we've gone through a year and a half of the fear of the unknown with the pandemic. what's next, what's after the delta wave? is it the lambda wave? your couch is going to take six months to arrive, you can't buy a used car. and that's a fear of the unknown. >> i recognize that part of this is, like, sphilosophically that people have this fear. but they're seeing higher prices. i talk to people who do not feel their wages are sufficient to cover, say, rising gas prices or rising grocery bills. and how does that factor into things? because it does feel like people have not been sufficiently satisfied with where their wages are. >> this is not something people are making up. wages are rising, but they are not rising as fast as consumer prices have over the last year. it tells you how expensive gasoline is. you buy milk and meat at the
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store. and i call it shadow inflation, forms of inflation that aren't showing up in price numbers but really do inconvenience people. you go to buy a car and you don't get to pick the color you want. or you need a refrigerator, it takes six months to get it. they really are affecting people's day-to-day lives. >> i want to point to this chart that was in your story about exactly this point. the hourly wages here, this is the chart, they are increasing. but look at the price of goods. this is used cars and trucks. how much of it has spiked. also home appliances, gas, milk, chicken. >> but those numbers are coming down, right? isn't that what many people think? >> that's the trillion-dollar question. how much is this temporary, how much does this fade as time goes on? automakers can't get chips from asia. a lot of problems hanging up.
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it's a complex system, and getting it all back working at the same time is a real challenge. >> when i go out and talk to voters and people, they say trillion a lot, and the spending, these programs sound so expensive but they're not necessarily feeling what they're getting in return for it. i think the white house has been pretty slow to respond and acknowledge the inflation numbers. you don't want to talk down the economy, we saw the president on friday really talking up the economy. and there is good news. they would have dreamed for this in the obama years. >> the unemployment rate is lower now than what it was under president obama. but look how voters view the president's handling of the economy. down 40% right now where we look at where it was in august, 47%, 52%. did they ignore the inflation issue for too long? >> i think psychologically if you're working a job, it's almost more frustrating if you have a job than to be able to afford things at the grocery store than to be unemployed. it's not that they are satisfied
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they are working, it's that i am working and i cannot yet afford what i used to afford or i'm frustrated at the cost of meat. that is something you hear consistently from people that the cost of chicken and beef, lamb, has all gone up. >> there's a 300-dollar-a-month child tax credit for a lot of working-class families, but people kind of take that for granted. and maybe you got a raise. you earned that. whereas if you have to pay more to fill up your tank, pay more for groceries, that feels like a real point of pain that weighs on you. >> the democrats in 2022 get credit for it? just look at what happened for the issues for this past tuesday's election in virginia. the most important issues for voters there, economy topping the list, 33%. covid down to 15%. democrats thought they would get credit for that, but it's receded amongst voters' views. will that change come 2022? >> we do this poll with ipsos
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every two weeks since the start of covid. when you look at people's expectations for biden, he has exceeded by a lot their expectations for handling covid, getting shots in the arm, making sure people can get vaccinated, spreading the science about vaccinations. their expectations about the economy have gone upside down. and people care a lot more about the economy right now. if covid was worse now than it was before, they might care more about covid. but he's not getting political credit in the same way that he's getting a political deficit from the sinking economy numbers. >> it's a huge, huge challenge for the white house. we're going to be talking more about that. and republicans say they're now the party of education, and parents after their success in tuesday's elections. democrats say their policy agenda proves otherwise. >> democrats are the party of parents, not republicans. we are the ones that are looking to pass universal childcare, universal pre-k, to cut prescription drug costs. and as soon as we get that done, i think people will see that.
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tuesday's election in virginia and new jersey were a warning sign to democrats. now let's take a look at some of the key numbers here. in virginia joe biden won in 2020 by ten points, much different story last tuesday. the republican candidate winning by just over two points, a 12-point advantage for republicans, a swing to the republican direction. similarly in new jersey even though democrats did win barely by two points, joe biden won new jersey by two points. republicans did better than
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donald trump did last year. donald trump won the southwestern part of the state, a rural part of the state by 57 points in 2020. glenn youngkin picked up seven additional points last week. in ocean county, new jersey, a blue collar part of new jersey, donald trump winning that by 29 points. the republican candidate in new jersey picking up seven points on the ground. democrats major warning signs in the suburbs, running behind where joe biden ran. loudoun county, virginia, a washington, d.c. dissuburb. 11-point victory, dropping 15 points. bergen county, new jersey, that's a new york city suburb, joe biden winning by almost 17 points last year, the democrat on tuesday just a five-point victory. both states had some of the lowest in-person school days in the country last year. and republicans say dissatisfaction with democrats' approach to education, particularly during the
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pandemic, drove suburban voters to support republicans. >> we're going to embrace our parents, not ignore them. we are going to keep our communities safe. we're going to comprehensively fund law enforcement because they stand up for us, and we are going to stand up for them. [ cheers and applause ] this is the spirit of virginia coming together like never before. >> so, here are a few more numbers. if you just look here what's happening on ground. women voters in 2020, 23-point victory for democrats back then. this time just seven points. in the suburbs different, 38-point victory for democrats last year. this time just 28 points. is it surprising democrats lost so much ground among suburban voter? >> yes, joe biden won virginia by ten points, but donald trump lost it by ten points.
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virginia was not this, like, massive, but new jersey, that's a bigger warning sign for democrats because that is a liberal or a democratic state. maybe not plus 16. so, look, i think a couple things. the mcauliffe campaign underestimated this newcomer of glenn youngkin. he was a smart, attractive guy, good message, stayed on message, and didn't -- these links to trump just didn't work. it was terry mcauliffe's message. like, many, many warning signs. when you talk to some virginia members of congress and other elected officials, they think the democratic party is too woke. it was said that this is not the kind of party that voters in virginia like. so that's the real warning sign, just the wokeness in the party is really an issue for them. >> but it's also hard to separate it from the two men themselves who were running in this race.
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you would go interview people in the crowd and they would tell you how uninspired they were by voting for terry mcauliffe. and you say why are you here? well, i'm here to hear joe biden or i'm here because i think i ought to vote for democrats. but he was not inspiring to many democrats. and i think that is part of it. i do wonder would this race have looked differently had there been another democrat on the other side? it still likely would've been a very competitive side. >> issues of education and parental rights. those essentially animated the republican base. is that essentially what made the difference here? >> you see in the exit polls that it like the number two issue, education, are you kidding? but terry mcauliffe and his wife have five kids. their youngest kid is college-age student now. it's obvious that they didn't have kids in public schools in virginia in k-12 schools because for those parents right now, for parents in the suburbs, these
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issues, everything from the mask and the separation policy to what they're learning, and this is like a softer issue, it's harder to poll, but the pent-up frustrations of have our kids gotten a good education for the last year and a half. are they going to be able to succeed in life or be able to go to college? you're going to blame the party in power, and democrats are now the party in power. i think they underestimated how big education is going to be. and it will be in every swing state in america in 2022. >> it's not just the suburbs. it's also the rural areas in which republicans did better than donald trump last year. i was talking with some democrats about it including congressman dean phillips of minnesota. and he told me this. >> i think supply chain issues, inflation. i think the border crisis is an issue. i think we have to listen more. as democrats represent less and less of rural america, we don't
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have that daily contact that we need to re-establish. not just for a party but for the country. >> what do you think about that? >> i think -- and you and i see this every day in congress. democrats have gotten just killed in rural areas. it's gotten worse. i think i saw a number there that they were losing 80% of the vote in rural areas. but their message is not penetrating. and i think part of it is their leadership, part of it is that the image of the party is that it's woke and it's owned by progressive. and i do think this gets back to the economic message in a lot of it. i think they have not been able to translate there has been good economic news and they haven't been able to sell it to the american people. and especially in rural areas these people were biased toward trump and republicans to begin with. >> where people get their news from, without a doubt.
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we should say for the record here, there definitely were some racist dog whistles in this campaign that i think probably did drive turnout in some rural counties. but those things are all known. it's still a challenge for democrats to get their message out. and there's just a disconnect with what the party is doing and what america is seeing. that's the biggest challenge for the party. >> you mentioned some of the issues, one being race, the issue of critical race theory. that really played heavily in the virginia race. this is what congresswoman underwood from illinois said. she said, we have a rising american electorate that are black and brown people. we should be able to speak to their issues, their experience as americans in this country without feeling like it's a liability for other audiences. now, this is part of a story we did about a debate within the democratic party about whether to talk about these issues like critical race theory is not taught in elementary school, it's not taught in high school. primarily on the university
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level. but some democrats say don't elevate these issues. but is that a risk for democrats by not talking about it? >> it boils down to language. critical race theory is something i consistently heard from republican voters. i spent time over in hanover county in central virginia, a very red county, i would say. and 90% of the electorate voted in the last presidential election. i did not hear about critical race theory there except for one time by a black voter. i would argue that the democrats' strategy of just saying it's not being taught here in virginia was not a successful rebuttal. in part, because, to this point, there are a lot of black and brown voters in the democratic party who don't feel like that's a sufficient answer. and i think the takeaway from virginia is going to be does the democratic party really try to galvanize and build up a larger support base amongst black and
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brown voters, progressive voters? or does it try to win back some of these suburban areas? when you talk about race, you can very easily alienate i think different parts of the country. >> and the question for republicans is can glenn youngkin's strategy be replicated? he kept donald trump on the sidelines. do you think this is something that a -- a formula that can work, or is it unique to him? >> i think it's a playbook with a lot of caveats. and he is a very good candidate. he has good instincts on the stump. he's tv friendly. in addition to that, he's really rich, which means that he's got his own money, it doesn't matter if he angers donald trump. no one can take away glenn youngkin's money from him. and also virginia is a different kind of swing state than a lot of the states where republicans, in theory, might want to separate themselves from trump but would have much more trouble doing it and kind of less of an
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excuse to do it. so i think it shows a path, it shows a model, but you can't just copy and paste it. >> we're going to talk about that in the next segment, what tuesday tells us about 2022. tresemmé's pro pure collection lets you style without compromise. tresemmé pro pure 0% compromise, 100% you. with clean, fresh ingredients, panera's new chicken sausage and pepperoni flatbread is a mouthwatering explosion of yes. craft? yes! heartine? yes! living life tohe flavor-fullest? heck yes panera. live youyes. now $1 delivery. [uplifting music plang]
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the party of the president who triggered it paid no political price. many voters have seemed to move on. seven people whond itted the rally on the mall before the riot. anthony gonzalez voted to impeach trump after the insurrection. he told jake tapper in a cnn special report he fear it's could happen again. >> january 6th was an unconstitutional attempt led by the president of the united states to overturn an american election and reinstall himself in power illegitimately. i think it's all pushing towards one of two outcomes.
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he either wins legitimately, which he may do, or if he loses again, he'll just try to steal it. >> tuesday it didn't seem like january 6th was a voting issue. is that the case nationally? what do you think? >> yeah. right now it looks like the voting issues are going to be the economy, schools and covid soft impact in both of those areas. i think january 6th is a hugely salient point for a lot of americans. people are deeply suburbed by what happened. and in the run-up to 2024, that could have an impact on some of the debate around who the republican nominee is going to be. but in 2022 you're voting for your member of congress. and i think those issues are going to trump january 6th for now. >> listen to what the former new jersey governor said about the former president donald trump just yesterday. >> we can no longer talk about the past and the past elections. [ applause ]
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no matter where you stand on that issue, no matter where you stand, it is over. and every minute that we spend talking about 2020, while we're wasting time doing that, joe biden, kamala harris, nancy pelosi, and chuck schumer are laying ruin to this country. >> so, in a follow-up interview with our colleague, christie said that terry mcauliffe's loss in virginia said that voters want to move past and are tired of arguing. >> i actually do think that underlying many issues, maybe it's not in 2022, but by the time you move into 2024, culture supersedes everything else. and i think that the trouble for democrats right now is they have not figured out how to successfully navigate those
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culture wars. >> the republicans are feeling good after tuesday, they've been confident all along they would take back the house. this is what the man who wants to become speaker, this is what he said after the results last week. >> president biden won by 16 points. you're in a competitive race next year, you are no longer safe. it's no longer will the competition of competitive seats be small. it'll be more than 70 democrats that will be competitive. there is many that are going to lose their races. >> president obama's approval rating back in 2009 was at 53%. they ended up losing 63 seats in 2010. biden right now is at 42%. are they at risk of losing up to 60 seats next year? >> no, they're not going to lose 60 seats, but they're going to lose the house. redistricting's already against them. biden's approval ratings, maybe they bounce back some, but the
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likelihood is they're going to lose. and for mccarthy, he better win at least 20, 25 seats or he's going to have a problem being speaker. i think what he's trying to do is make it seem like a fait accompli. he's trying to say, the republicans are trying to say you shouldn't even spend your money on house races, spend it on the senate or spend it on something else because this is over, they're trying to say it's over. democrats have big problems. i think tuesday it a huge wake-up call to them that they better get it together. the problem for democrats is, you know, they've got to pass build back better or they've got no chance heading into 2022. and can they -- if these guys have one eye on 2022 and biden's not going to be there, am i going to risk my seat for voting for something for the president? >> there's not as much low-hanging fruit as there was in 2010. because 2020 a lot of republicans came in so there's not that big majority for one. but one thing that mr. mccarthy
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hopes to be speaker, which is also unclear, primaries are still a huge challenge for republicans. virginia taught democrats a lesson about trump, you can't just talk about him. but for republicans a lesson about trump is still kind of up in the care. primaries still remain a huge challenge for the republican party. >> a lot of lessons learned from republicans. progressives too. they lost races in buffalo, new york city, ohio, minneapolis. what does it say about their future? a lot for them to process as well. and a big week for the president ahead. how does it impact his legacy in 2024? really make my dry skin healthier in one d day? it's true jen. really?! this nourishing prprebiotic oat formula moisturizes to help prevent dry skin. one day? for real! wow! aveeno® healthy. it's our nature.™ i gotta say i'm still impressed. very impressed.
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saturday. >> is the new deal under teddy roosevelt, the square deal. i think last night we just good part one of the biden/harris administration's big deal and i think part two has a ton of momentum if only because the american people overwhelmingly support just about everything that's in it. >> senator mow manchin of west virginia without big margins, there is not a mandate. >> we don't have the numbers that fdr had or that lyndon baines johnson had in order to get some major, major legislation done. we don't have those. we can't go foo far left. this is not a center left or a left country. we are a center, if anything a little center-right country, that's being shown and we ought to be able to recognize that. they're just pushing left. people are pushing further left and that's not joe biden. >> what do the first ten months say about joe biden and is this what the voters expected of them? >> that is a tricky question.
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is this what voters expected? i would say voters expected him to return the country to some sense of normalcy. that is why most folks when you talk to them elected him. has he done that? you talk about covid, i think he has done that. when you talk about the economy, to some degree he's done that. i think the challenge for him is that he has these other ambitions and those have gotten stuck in congress and i think that when voters look at gridlock regardless of whether or not they wanted pieces of this legislation, that is not a good image for him. >> what do you think of manchin saying this is not a center-left country? >> you and i cover manchin a lot. that's why joe manchin is, pro-life and in a party that is pro-abortion rights, i mean. i think they're caught in the trap, the biden administration. you win the presidency and covered george w. bush as well as i did. the message even though we lost the popular vote you govern like you won and all the energy, the problem for biden and the opportunities, all the energy in
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the party is progressives. he's a moderate. he won the election and all the energy is with them. you saw the squad and those folks voting against an infrastructure bill he needed, they needed, the party needed. >> disappointment among progressives and that comes, too, when they pass the bill big bill we have to compromise with joe manchin. this is what a republican pollster neil theyhaus said yesterday about the in infrastructure victory the president got. >> the way the biden administration went at this, if they passed this in july or when it first came up, then that would be competence leading the party. the sausage making we went through over the last three or four months was ugly and i think it diminished americans' belief that the biden administration was a competent one. >> do you agree with that or -- >> for sure. i think it's virtually
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impossible once your standing is where it is, it's very hard to increase it, absent some type of national tragedy where he's seen as a leader. they kin kremtally increase it. joe biden's party is not doing him any favors. i talked to several members of congress who spoke to him as he was trying to encourage them. they said he was very on tap with the numbers and he knew exactly what was in this bill. he said he was confused by one thing, confused by the divisions in the party, they could not simply get around this. so the thought that sticks democrats voting against infrastructure, they should be primaried. we'll see what happens with all that. the biggest problem in the white house is the biggest challenge are democrats themselves. >> look at how democrats view the president according to npr, pbs and marist poll from october 18th. do democrats have a better chance of winning the presidency with biden as the nominee? 36%, just 36% say yes.
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44% say no and 20% are unsure. >> right, if you dig deeper on someone else. >> who? >> there is no other choice who is more popular. i think what you said is exactly right. is biden lbj or is biden fdr? maybe biden's eisenhower. if all he gets is infrastructure he'll have a lot of roads and bridges and that will still be a really big deal between the money that's been passed to bring the country out of the pandemic, to stave off crisis is hard to message on like the idea that things would have been way worse if i wouldn't have gotten done what i did but that kind of has to be part of his message. i don't think biden's a centrist democrat. i think biden is center-left politician and has been for many, many decades, but in the context of his current party, it makes him seem like a centrist. >> yes. the challenge here is that the president, the party, they promised a lot, they have such narrow margins, no margin for
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error in the senate and house and they have to deliver and it's hard to do just that. thank you for joining us. that's it for "inside politics" on sunday. join us every sunday at 8:00 eastern and weekdays noon eastern. mayor-elect eric adams, mark warner, larry hogan and jennifer granholm on "state of the union" next. yes to clean and fresh ingredients! and yes to living life to the flavor-fullest. panera. live your yes. now $1 delivery.
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done deal. president biden is ready to break ground on his infrastructure bill. >> finally, infrastructure week. >> but as moderates hold the line on his social safety net bill, can he deliver that, too? i'll speak with energy secretary jennifer granholm and house moderate democrat josh gottheimer. and new playbook? republicans made gains with voters who backed biden, rasn hopes for a house gop takeover next year. >> let's climb that hill together. >> reporter: have republicans found a way to manage the trump factor? gop governor

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